The Jerker Episode

13:14Mark Fischbach:Yeah, I usually hear people that start with woodworking. Instead of making the birdhouse, they start with French cleating, and then they go to birdhousing.

13:21Ethan Nestor:I mean, French cleating is like the easiest thing you could do, because all you have to do is cut one thing a couple times and then screw it on the wall. But I'm glad it sounds fancy. It does. It does sound fancy. Yeah, it does.

13:31Mark Fischbach:Like, oh, nice boxes. Actually, they're French cleats. Oh.

13:35Ethan Nestor:I'm just really excited about it because I got this table saw right before I wasn't allowed to do anything. So I haven't actually used it yet. It makes me feel kind of bummed out. But I'm back. I'm so back.

13:45Mark Fischbach:Bummed out? What? Bob, I'm so excited for you, Bob. Bummed out? You get the segue point. Because we are in Sad Part 6. Brought to you by...

14:01Mark Fischbach:Wrong. Wrong. And probably cut out.

14:04Ethan Nestor:I was just thinking is that going to be Words or beeps in the final cut I would love to know

14:10Mark Fischbach:Well as I was saying last week we've got A less fun week ahead And there's a lot of things weighing Down so uh I don't know what you guys do whenever I get Sad I go and I like find Sad clips on the internet I'm like you know what I'm Sad let's go find something to cry About like not like necessarily Sad but like tearjerker stuff like Oh this guy's seeing his dog for the first time in four years because he went to the war i want to cry let's listen to sad songs i want to cry like i don't know i seek out sad so i've got sad on the mind and uh there's a lot of there's a lot of sad so we're gonna get some of the sad out this is your grab your kleenex not the lotion for this one unless just the kleenex because this is the tear jerker episode don't say unless you're opening things up for people well it still is jerker it could be still be the jerker episode but it's supposed to be for tears it's not unless no put the lube away tim i know you're retired from apple but you gotta put it away man you got a lot of free time on your hands you just can't do

15:09Ethan Nestor:that gotta find new stuff to enjoy moved on so yeah we're gonna get the sad out you seek those out though i thought you were just gonna say like social media delivers because whether i want it or not i feel like all of my social media feeds are just some amalgamation of different versions of sad things for me to cry about while I'm trying to go to the bathroom.

15:30Mark Fischbach:No, there are just times where I'm like, I feel like I need to get it out of my system. So I seek out the stuff that I know is going to get the wells flowing. Really? I don't know. I'm saying that like, like, like I'm a, I'm an investigator and you're a criminal and I'm interrogating you. Oh, really? Oh, really? It's not something I talk about. I don't really talk about it with anybody, but I do. I'll have nights where I just go to my computer. I'm like, I'm just going to spend an hour looking through things that make me want to well up because I just want to get it out of my system. Does that work for you?

15:57Mark Fischbach:That does not make it better for me. Not that night, but sometimes the next day I'll feel better. Like I'll go to bed and like, they'll still be like tears flowing. It's like, oh, my pillow got tears on my pillow. The next day I'll wake up. I'm usually feeling better. And are you controlling for, you know, not doing that and then waking up? Maybe it was just the night of sleep that got you better. If you do it every night, it doesn't count. It's not very frequent. This is like a maybe two to three times a year thing that I do where I'm just like, I don't know. I feel like getting the pent up emotion out.

16:24Mark Fischbach:I don't know. It's not even like sometimes it's not even. So I plan to do it. I'm like, maybe I'll see a recommended video. It's like, you know what? This is one of those nights. So I've not actually had one in a minute, even though this is all going on right now. It's been a while since I've done it, but it's just on my mind. Maybe today will be the day. You guys can bring up whatever you want to talk about. I've got some stuff here and they're not necessarily like the saddest things in the world. They're just things that like I think about. It's like, man, kind of hate that. For example, one thing that we've always tried to avoid promoting, I think, as a group is like sports betting type stuff, right?

16:56Mark Fischbach:We don't really do much with the betting, but like I have seen so much betting advertisement everywhere. And then like I think about gotcha games, which I have been, you know, a player of in the past, even buying like Pokemon cards and stuff, right? There's a gambling aspect to it. You don't buy a pack of cards. It's basically a gamble. Yeah, you buy the cards. You don't know what you're getting unless you buy that specific card. You buy a pack of cards. it's like man I sure hope this has a full art I sure hope this has a secret like I sure hope this has what I want but you're not guaranteed and then like even through like social media and sports shows right social media you see advertising for all kinds of stuff now sports betting is one of them there's a couple sports shows I like and one of the sports shows I like watching is first things first I enjoy the banter that those three have on that show but one of the things they often talk about are like betting lines or the over under or stuff like that and it's like man I feel like whenever I was watching like ESPN and stuff and maybe I was just too young to know what was going up I don't remember betting lines and stuff being talked about on sports programming Stuart Scott

17:53Ethan Nestor:never gave his picks for your top five bets for the weekend no that didn't that didn't happen

17:59Mark Fischbach:yeah we're like here's a here's a parlay you pick these five things and you're more than likely going to get that like that's just such common stuff now and I don't know it diminishes my enjoyment like I liked fantasy football when I had no money in the game but everyone does fantasy football There's a lot of money involved now and players are getting like threatened and harassed. It's like Jamar Chase. You only had two catches in the Bengals first game. How dare you? I lost my house.

18:21Ethan Nestor:And it's like he didn't do a goddamn thing in that game, but he doesn't deserve to be threatened about it or anything. But man, the whole time I was like, and throw it to Chase. And they didn't do it.

18:32Mark Fischbach:But I think he's still recovering from the hyperextended knee in the preseason. But in any case, it's just like one of those things where I don't know. I feel like all this betting and gambling, it used to be to go to a casino, I think, to do it. It's just so invasive and pervasive in our lives now that just betting and gambling on anything is anywhere and everywhere and slam down our throats. This is going to sound strange because it's going to seem like I'm glorifying gambling. But the juxtaposition of when people say went to Vegas and you go there, it was like, oh, the lights. Oh, the big bill.

19:05Whoa, is that a pyramid? Oh, it's a castle! Like, you know, there's a lot of stuff going on that is part of the gambling. And go to someone on their phone sitting on their couch with 16 more chins than they usually do, looking and scrolling, like, picking bets on their phone. There's a lot less glam, you know? At the very least, when gambling was, like, localized just to Vegas for the most part and other places around the country, it was dressed up. You know, there was this illusion that, you know, it was, if you're going to lose money at least you're going to enjoy it in this kind of and you're going out of your way to go find it it wasn't at your fingertips exactly yeah it's like i'm going here specifically to do this because it's the only place i'm doing it now everyone does it in their in their in their own home they're ruining their life in the most boring way possible that's the thing is they're it's all ruining your life in one way or another small or large but it's like it's so boring now it's so not interesting i will i will i'm not going to pretend like i don't um

20:01Ethan Nestor:bet on sports games but like i literally i think last year i think i deposited like 75 bucks or 100 bucks total so i could bet on like bangles games and columbus blue jackets hockey games because just because i watch those games anyway i do that for fun for myself i don't mind the gambling being everywhere because it's exactly what you're saying mark it's not like it's not like vegas i don't like get my phone out and get the exhilaration of like oh i'm gonna i do it because it's like well i'm watching the game and i'm like i think t higgins is gonna get a touchdown today like and i can put like that five bucks on it which is inconsequential right this is money i could have spent at dave and busters or on some other thing i enjoy it's just for fun the thing that's such a bummer about is how predatory the industry is i think because i think i hope a lot of people most people i hope are more like me where it's like yeah i'll bet five bucks ten bucks Maybe if it's like the Super Bowl, maybe I'll bet 20 bucks on the Super Bowl because like it's two teams I don't really care about.

21:01Ethan Nestor:But then maybe I'm invested in who wins because we're, you know, my family, we always watch the Super Bowl. Even if it's two shitty teams you don't give a shit about. And it's like then it's then it's kind of fun. But there are, I think, a lot of people, possibly a huge number of people. I don't know the statistics on gambling where it's not just like a boring thing that they do as a part of a hobby they have or the thing they do with friends and family anyway. It is crushing. I have had close, well, not close, but like family and acquaintances who've had trouble with gambling in the past. And it's destructive.

21:34Ethan Nestor:It's not just some innocuous thing, right? It is very dangerous. And so there is a reason it was regulated. And if we're talking about why that's a bummer, it doesn't bother me on a personal level. When I see people talk about betting on sports shows or whatever, usually I just turn it off because I don't fucking care. but the industry is so such a negative impact and the numbers on like people who are really into betting and especially i think people who go on to like the kalshi polymarket stuff also right it's not because it's good treating that like it's an investment is not healthy it's a real it's gross if you do it casually i don't think there's anything wrong with it just like there's nothing wrong with going to vegas it's fun if you like it it's whatever but like that's not the that's not how those companies make money they don't make money off of me betting 100 bucks a year on

22:25Mark Fischbach:several sports games i've not gotten myself into financial issues with it thankfully but i have had like days playing a gotcha game right where you're just like already annoyed you're like oh well at least this new unit i really wanted is coming out and you go to summon you got your whatever currency and you pull you don't get it okay well i'll do another one pull don't get it i just really want this unit so fine i'll buy the pack got three summon three ten pulls in it no no no okay well there's this worst value pack two more two more just two more and you go down that line and then like i don't know the exacerbation of like now i'm pissed i'm gonna get my one copy i'll show them and it's like i show them you mean you're gonna keep swiping your credit card giving them money and you'll eventually get the thing and then feel worse about it later because like when you get something and like your first multi, right?

23:12Mark Fischbach:It's like the dopamine hits there, but there's something about the not getting it and you keep going until you get it. Then you're not even happy when you pull it. You're just like, yeah, Simon, Simon rewarding. I don't know. There's that like, it's right at your fingertips. They make it easier than ever. You know, you double click your phone. It's like face recognition. Yep. There goes 30 bucks and you can go down. I, you know, tens of dollars, hundreds of dollars, probably thousands,$10 ,000 very quickly doing this kind of stuff. Especially I've not gotten into like the sports betting and stuff where you can, I imagine, put down large sums you know at least the things i'm talking about are smaller amounts of tens of dollars rather than hundreds or thousands but like it adds up quick i have had days where i've spent upwards of a thousand bucks like very easily then afterward i just i feel like absolute shit but then that sunken cost fallacy keeps me going i mean i love playing dokkan but for years that sunk cost fallacy kept me going on that and it was like i don't want to miss out on the new meta unit for a game that had no pvp even compared to other ones where it's like you have to have the new thing to keep up and this is just gotcha games again this is still very different than like buying cards which is worse than ever thanks to scalpers or like you guys said sports betting or whatever else it's just it's all everywhere at our fingertips which is convenient for responsible bettors but i consider myself responsible and i've had a few days uh where i've slipped and just been like having a bad day i'm gonna get this thing no matter what and then i regret it later because it's like why did i do that why did i spend 300 getting this digital unit for a game i quit playing two months later uh and i imagine there's a lot of people that go through a lot worse than me couldn't be me learn my lesson long ago would never happen again how long ago long long long ago before i got married you know oh yeah a year ago it's been year and year year plus could be

24:52Ethan Nestor:one to ten twenty fifty who knows really so like what you're talking about the gambling and got you stuff for me that's kind of like bad sad not in a judgy way but like that that sincerely makes me kind of feel bummed when if I get drawn into that you know or whatever but I do have things where it's like good good sad for me happy sad I guess and I'm curious if you guys have any and it's changed a lot for me since James was born but the thing the stupid thing that I get sucked into what I feel when I need reassurance is there's so much like dad hope core stuff on social media where it's just like guys out there posting videos of them whatever they're working out they're cooking food for the family they're doing whatever and just like giving some so corny it's like eye watering like it's cringy if I wasn't in the right mood I would look at it and be like ah geez get a life but there i get into that mood where i just go and i scroll through like hope core dad tiktoks and i'm just like weeping and i feel better because i assume it's not just me but one of my biggest issues uh with parenting uh aside from hoping that james turns out good is just generally feeling like i'm not doing the right things generally feeling like a failure Like it's impossible, I think, to be a parent and have any self-awareness and not feel at some points like, ah, I'm such a fuck up.

26:19Ethan Nestor:I'm doing something wrong. Something went poorly today. It's all my fault. And the like cringy hope core stuff absolutely does it for me. It like doesn't cheer me up, but it like gets me through that. Right. It takes me from feeling super bad about myself, hating myself to like turning that around and still feeling, you know, maybe it was a hard day, but hopeful. and it does it's like sad but in a good way you guys have any stuff that's like that where you have to be in the right mood but you go to it because it helps you like process and then turn the corner back towards i'm gonna make you know i'm not gonna just mope i'm gonna i'm gonna do something i'm gonna make this you know turn this into productive feelings or whatever yeah i think i do um this kind of kind of after henry had passed uh henry uh me and amy's dog so when he passed it was very much like why am i working so hard on this stupid movie you know taking up so much of my time doing all this this work and not spending time with you know my dog but we did spend a lot of time with him and and you know he we were never not you know with him uh for the majority of that and and so but still there was a feeling of just like my god and so i wanted it was kind of like when i was doing that i was just in the final stages of it as i've said a thousand times before um but it's very much like i just gotta get it i just gotta get it out so then we put up the tickets for sale but then it did so good so i don't know what the lesson is so it's just like hey it worked but so it's uh it's it's kind of a conflicted feeling because coming out of that is very much just like man i either gotta really focus and get things done in a timely manner or i need to be ambitious and chase things while i still can but also not because i need to spend time with the ones i love but i have opportunity you know it's kind of weird pulling in different directions because there's a whole bunch of different lessons i could take from it but at the end of the day i just you know i i still have pictures of him like right here i've got i've got pictures of him always so i'm able to look at that and i'm always able if i ever feel like i'm not not on the right path i'm like ah you know what i'll do it for him you know do it for him kind of thing it's just whatever it is i'll use it to motivate me in one way or another and yeah of course i get very sad thinking about him but you know we gave him a good life from where he was and now we got sandy too to to think about and chica's still you know doing well so do it for them i actually this is really corny but i recently decided to change my phone lock screen to a picture of james and mandy which i only ever hadn't done because like i always have sort of aesthetic stuff my phone is like a hobby right so it's not a sentimental thing but i just had a night where i was like i need to focus i need to focus on what's important and I put them on my phone screen.

29:03Ethan Nestor:And every time I've looked at it since I did that, it feels silly, but I do have that flash of like, I should do it for them. I should, whatever it is, I should do it. I always got this. There's a picture of Henry. There's a picture of Henry looking up at Amy. And I know that, know that about this picture. And so it's just like, it's a really pretty picture. And I always just think of it. It's like, oh, always looking up at Amy. Default starry night. Nice, nice, nice. Yeah, that's the stuff.

29:30Mark Fischbach:yeah oh and my calendar event is my dogs need ear medicine so you know fun fun combo there how many days you've been putting that off no they get it daily starting yesterday ear infections are fun so yeah i don't i don't do that with the pictures and stuff i do scroll through mine one of the things i know when like when avengers first came out i i get emotional during movies like molly is like statue during movies even like emotional scenes i don't know if she just like tries to contain it or whatever but like she holds it together i'll have like tears streaming down my face at like big like hoorah moments and stuff i feel like there was a lot of powerful moments between infinity wars and endgame uh infinity war endgame so i went and i watched like reaction content and reaction compilations of people that like saw like like black panther you know being like one of the first like black superheroes that was like really powerful and seeing people be like black panther that's so cool or there's like the female team up moment in endgame and like seeing people be like this is so like i don't know just moments where like there's a big like triumphant like orchestra like when the portals open and stuff and like all the music swelling i'll watch like reactions to those moments like those are like the get the tears flowing but i'm like oh hell yeah like feeling pumped like it's a it's a sad like tear moment but it's like actually this is really positive and amazing like everyone's tearing up and i'm tearing up like yes kind of like beauty of humanity kind of thing like oh man this is this is what we can really be i don't know it makes me feel good to see that kind of stuff so meanwhile other people are like oh women

30:59Ethan Nestor:you joke but they absolutely are there are basements full of them but for me and i think those are

31:05Mark Fischbach:really cool moments and i'm not one that watches a lot of reaction content but seeing the occasional like specific moments to react to i'm like those are those are fun for me to watch do you guys have more before i delve into some yeah how sad you want to get go go as deep as you'd like man the floor is open there's a story that was on the washington post it was a can of worms but uh the the thing is ice is quietly firing new hires for one recruit it was devastating because he got this job from being an unhirable person and then ended up being fired and then as a result he took his own life so it's it's one of those things where it's like oh that's sad but also So, you know, there's a lot of layers and it's a convoluted thing.

31:48Yeah. You know, just chucking that out there in the complexity pool. Yeah, that's certainly a complex type of downer.

31:55Ethan Nestor:I have to give you that.

31:56Mark Fischbach:Yeah. I mean, you never want to see someone take their own life. Obviously, we can disagree with choices people make and politics is a thing we always avoid on this show just because it's not fun or funny and just causes more divisiveness typically. Yeah. Ice is a controversial thing, especially with how it's been executed in the last few years.

32:13Ethan Nestor:The thing about that too is, and this is a broader statement on society, that sort of thing. It's honestly, I feel a little bit like I've been numbed to crazy headlines like that. Like that as a story, if that happened in my life, that would be an unthinkable thing. Like depending on who that is, how close that's, that is a terrible sequence of events. It would be devastating. but seeing that in the news is like even as intense as that story is it barely holds up to the constant deluge of terrible things to concerning things shit that's happening that's unbelievable that it's happening and people are whatever but the i think the thing about that specific story too is what i just know is out there because i have i haven't read that or looked at it specifically if there's a comment section that is disheartening i'm sure and if If there are people talking about that on social media, it is disheartening, I'm sure, because the complete lack of humanity.

33:15Ethan Nestor:And this is, again, kind of apolitical because it's not one side that has no humanity and the other side, just generally the lack of humanity on the internet, in the discourse. I haven't looked at this one, but I could guess what it's like. And it's probably very disheartening in general and probably nothing redeeming to find in those comments or those social media arguments. Right. That's as a part of that, because being numb to the news absolutely happens. I think anyone who reads a lot, reads the news or follows the news just sort of happens because the world is fucking crazy. But that is to me maybe more disheartening even than the headline, because it's just it's just all the same.

33:58Ethan Nestor:You know what that comment section looks like. you could guess exactly what that looks like for sure and and the whole the whole thing is fine i don't know who this guy was i don't know what his history was but it's like the the biggest problem all this is like the military-esque drive for recruitment offering i don't know how many thousands they were offering people to it's like huge bonuses and stuff right huge bonuses people and of course people are desperate because times are not good for a lot of people out there i don't know who uh who who might disagree with that but you know inflation is doing funny things and interest rates are on the rise and tariffs huh what no those are those are helping right those are making a lot of money we're gonna get checks or something sam please put in loud winking noises for listeners no is there a such thing as a winking noise it's just spark going when you have these desperate people that are you know you know they they see a however many thousands of dollars bonus check that they could get for this you know even if it's a reprehensible thing to to join up for or the reasons thereof or you know motivated purely by this like building up this militarist force to do horrible things some people will take that out of desperation and then to be fired of it if the people are like it's the last chance and also all of my family and friends hate me for joining this and then suddenly they're fired and they don't have the money or the you know you know or their friends and family you know because they they all look down upon it it could

35:26Mark Fischbach:happen i don't know if that's what happened here but it's like it could happen tangentially like talking about the desensitization of all this stuff like headlines in general man that's one of the things i have on here is like news stories always focusing on violence war controversy death just horrible things so my mom's sister was killed in a car accident in like the 70s i never got to meet her my aunt but it's a it's a it was a thing that happened that obviously was devastating for my mom. It was devastating for her parents and like their extended families and stuff because they lost, you know, I think she was in like her early to mid 20s when she passed away in a car accident.

35:57Mark Fischbach:And then like you see something on the news and it says like car crash, one fatality. And like they'll give like a brief like so and so died in a car. Like every day we have those things on the news, right? Like accident. These people died. You look at the really big events in like the world this year, like we were talking a little bit about earlier, Nepal, right? The horrible floods in Nepal, Tibet and all that stuff that claimed I don't even know how many hundreds or thousands of lives at this point. I have no idea what the number's gotten to, but we hear those and we're like, oh, that's so terrible.

36:22Mark Fischbach:That's awful. And we'll see like, you know, donation link pop up or something. Hopefully people are donating to help support these causes. But like what's lost in all that is individuality. There's like each of these people lost. It affected them. They're gone. Parents, grandparents, children, spouses, cousins, like, you know, there's this radius of people affected by this around them. And that hundreds of times over, thousands of times over is happening. And we hear the event and we're so desensitized to it that it's like, tragic, tragic. What happened in sports today? And it's just like you kind of you see that you're sad for a moment, you move on.

36:54Mark Fischbach:Some people will give it more attention. It was in the news for a couple of weeks, whatever it was. And it's kind of like, oh, yeah, I forgot about that big, horrible event. And there's just so much dwelling on these things that we are super desensitized to. We get war casualties. It's like, oh, that's tragic. That's really sad. All right. So what's next? And I don't know. There's just something about that mindset that seems terrible to me where we get used to hearing accidents, casualties, victims. We get those things. It's like, what can you do? So I guess we move on to the next topic. What's next on the news?

37:24It's the unfortunate thing of normalization. Humans can become used to anything, which is a very scary thing because anything can become normalized. Good things can become normalized and bad things can become normalized with the Nepal flood is like not saying like this was caused by someone but there was a little bit of lack of information coming through about warning systems monitoring you know these things because i i don't i didn't read everything about i don't know the full scope of the situation but i believe that there was at least there should have been at least some kind of early monitoring of this that could have led to more you know evacuations more preparedness i don't know but the death toll as of an article this morning i i had no idea it was this many 1395 and it's still rising because there's still 5130 people still missing so it's like it's every single one of those could be could be dead probably not they have rescued a few people but it's nowhere near the proportion of the amount of people that have uh died and it's just like it's crazy to think about wiped out like just didn't go on there's the levity there's the oh he's got on bob with the levity that was perfectly timed on purpose yes yes that's it that's what he's here for uh but yeah it's just like seeing the before and after pictures of some of those cities that they had like like and towns that are very large like i mean i grew up in milford we were milford it's not that big of a big of a city you know and town just like getting wiped half of it wiped off the

38:55Mark Fischbach:map is crazy to think about yeah i saw i wasn't going out of my way looking for it but one of the videos crossed my feet of like i don't know if it was like a checkpoint or what what it was but it was a structure with a bunch of people that were really small looking on the video like running away and then you just see i don't know how to describe the amount of like water and debris what it looked like compared to the p it's just such an enormously large amount of stuff coming through that within what a couple a second half a second two seconds whatever the time frame is just so quickly envelops that whole area.

39:23Mark Fischbach:And like you said, we've become desensitized to stuff like that. But to actually think about, actually think about it is it's crushing. It's devastating to think about. Cause it's like, it's more than just like, imagine everyone you knew is gone. It's somehow more than that. You know, imagine every single friend person you've become acquainted with good friends, even your coworkers was just gone. That's like the quantity and it's, it boggles the mind. You know, it's something we can't really, really relate to, but also in human history it's that's a very common thing they used to be much more common but at the same time you know wars are still happening genocide still happening it's it's all boggles in mind one of the things that annoys and pisses me off the most in the political spectrum there's so much misdirect we focus on such tiny stupid issues when there's so many big concerning global human facing things that we could be focusing on and instead we find minute things that like i don't like that well why That's a stupid thing to not like.

40:19Mark Fischbach:Let's all fight each other while meanwhile overhead, all this other bullshit's happening that we're ignoring because we're so busy, focused in the trenches on the world's dumbest, least important things. Instead of focusing on grouping together and like, what can we do to help Nepal? Like, can we, is there something we don't focus on the positive aspects of what we can do to make the world a better place or what we can stop doing to keep it from getting worse. Instead, there's a lot of just focus on vitriol, hatred and everyone pitting each other against each other so that we're also so busy holding our pitchforks that people making decisions are doing basically whatever the fuck they want and like oh you guys are done fighting about that here the last chicken nugget who wants it fight to death over this i have a strong belief actually that the majority of people uh arguing online are arguing with robots i think more than ever now it's there are just bots that are specifically made to go into various comment sections that are tied into keywords and produce the opposite opinion.

41:17I don't even think that they're like, there's a core message they're trying to do. They just exist to be like antagonistic. Yeah. And I think, I think that that is, it may not be all of it. I believe there are dumb and bad people out there, of course, that think dumb and stupid things more and more as LLMs get better. And as these bots just, they, they take over the internet. I think a lot of these conversations come from just like nonsense. Like you're arguing with a nobody.

41:42Mark Fischbach:Well, in Twitter specifically, monetizing tweets to where if you get a viral tweet, you get more money if you're partnered or subscribed or whatever. Also is added to the let's rage bait, whether it's bots or people. The whole point is post something that's going to get a lot of controversy, a lot of clicks and a lot of typing things about. Because if 5000 people have something to say about my opinion, that's a lot more money for me than if only three people responded. Yeah, it's true. Sorry, I've got more things. unless you guys have something else you want to got one time for one or two more probably

42:13Ethan Nestor:quick things i'm just spending i guess i'm doing it wrong i was spending trying to think of stuff that's like the things i think of when i'm sad but it's all stuff that turns it around for me

42:23Mark Fischbach:even if you do that i feel like that's still you are welcome to bring those things up i would i would not mind us spinning this at the end you're welcome to spin it i have a really small one that

42:32Ethan Nestor:I just like, um, that pops up for me a lot personally, my, uh, mom's mom. So my maternal grandmother, I feel like I get a lot of my, my like temperament and personality kind of from her. And I don't know if that's true or if it's just because I see it after the fact, but like, uh, she is, she died years ago now. I mean, it would have been coming up on a decade ago. It's been a while uh actually almost exactly a decade just over but so and she had alzheimer's which is like one of my biggest personal fears is yeah same having seen that so up close and being afraid of getting that but um she was i think i think it's uncommon she was always happy she was always like the happiest even when she was the alzheimer's was very advanced and she she was living in assisted care.

43:27Ethan Nestor:She was always just like even keel happy. Like we would come and visit and, you know, the whole family would show up and visit her in her room. And she would just be like, she wouldn't say this, but she clearly, she would think like, okay, I don't understand what's happening. Everyone is here. We're all hanging out. Must be a holiday. And her go-to is we would all walk in and be like, Hey, and she would just go happy Easter. Probably like, Hey, what's up everybody? happy easter welcome i'm hosting you for easter now uh but like that's uncommon because a lot of people when they're disoriented they get angry scared pretty normal reactions uh but i think i get bummed out a lot when like alzheimer's brought up or if i'm thinking about her i miss her um but there's one thing it's literally one word that she said that always like brings me back when i start thinking about her is we're playing scategorias which if you don't know is a game where you pass a little thing around and it has a word or i don't know if it's called categories catchphrase passphrase has a word on it and you're trying to get your team to guess the word right and then you push the button and hand it to the next player and um she was not good at that game we were all playing around the table at christmas and she got the thing handed to her and she kept she liked to say the word that was on the screen so she would just get it and be like butterflies ah uh christmas tree and one time she was getting really pissed off because she couldn't do it right and she did She like said the word three times in a row and then she just went, oh shit, and handed it off.

44:53Ethan Nestor:And no one in that entire house had ever heard her like swear, really. Right. We were all kids. And that's like a cornerstone of who I try to be as a person because she wasn't angry. It was really funny. It is like she just was so in the moment that she swore and she was really embarrassed about it. But it's just a thing when I get sad about like family members having health issues or my own health issues I've been dealing with, especially recently. It's just a thing that always comes back where I'm like, no matter what happens, like be more like grandma. And I think about her just yelling, Oh shit, in the middle of the Christmas party.

45:30Ethan Nestor:And it's such a random memory because it doesn't really accurately capture what I'm feeling or like her as a person in a big way. But it's just like a funny little thing that has been in my head since it happened probably 16 years ago or whatever and I guess I was wondering if you guys have anything like that where it's like it could do something that's sad too because I certainly have those but that's like a defining thing for me that always re-centers me and reminds me like whatever's happening you can choose how you react to it still right you can choose how you choose to move forward I guess I didn't get

46:04Mark Fischbach:like a lesson from this but a funny one I think back to a lot even though we lost a zombie mold I think five years ago now he and I were becoming really close friends we obviously met through doing drunk Minecraft with the three of us. And then Molly and I kept playing on the Vox Populi Minecraft server and got to know him and Latin whenever they were together there for a while and stuff. And then finally he was coming out of his shell and he came to Cincinnati a couple of times and we went to LA and hung out and we played Among Us whenever Among Us was booming. I think in what, 2020? I don't know, just his brain worked differently than ours.

46:36Mark Fischbach:And it was led to some funny encounters. But we did a match where I don't remember if somebody was getting killed a lot or thought they were being targeted. We're like, OK, we're going to make all of our names just some simple colors and that way no one knows who they're killing or who's the killer whatever else we're just gonna be like you know whatever so everyone just pick a color and so we had like red blue black green white fucking zombie picked chartreuse and right away we all knew it was him and i don't know how but we're all like zombie did you pick chartreuse as your colors like yeah it's a good green whatever we're like chartreuse green dude the closest we have to chartreuse is yellow because it's the only other color here with two symbols to it or syllables to it chartreuse is the funny color that can both be described as green or yellow it is basically exactly in between the two so he picked that and i don't know just it's one of those moments where it makes me sad to remember that moment because it's like he's gone but it makes me laugh and happy because it was just such a funny moment where literally everyone was simple one syllable color and then a color like half the people in the call have never even heard of the i I don't even know what chartreuse is.

47:40Mark Fischbach:I thought that was like a dessert. So again, no big lesson learned or anything, but just one of those moments. It's like a sad, happy, like it makes you laugh and you're kind of sad because you miss the person. But then you're kind of like you think of other silly things that happen with them. And it's like, OK, well, I feel like I'm in better spirits, but also like there's still that hollow part of me that feels hollow thinking about it, which I think similar to this experience you're talking about. Just I didn't get that lesson.

48:01Ethan Nestor:Yeah, well, it doesn't have to have some. I think this only has gravity to me because I mean, I think very much because she had Alzheimer's and that's a that was a very formative like experience for me knowing her seeing how it affected her but yeah doesn't have to be some huge thing that's pretty funny I didn't know zombie nearly as well as you guys did but that does fit pretty good my grandma that my mom's mom

48:23Mark Fischbach:lived with us for a couple of years after my grandpa passed away and um toward the end she had like an oxygen tank so she had like the little tubes and stuff in her nose and stuff she was starting to slip she she didn't really know where she was it wasn't Alzheimer's but it was like that last stages of life where your mind's going all over the place and there were moments of clarity where she knew who we all were and there were moments where she thought it was one of her cousins or you know whatever from her childhood and there was a night that um she was in her room and she was making all kinds of noise we all went to go check on her and she was like standing on her bed and holding up her she took it taking her oxygen that was holding it up in the air and telling us we had to help collect the water dust she's like the water dust it's escaping get the water dust and we're like graham what are you talking about okay all right well She's like, get the water dust.

49:07Mark Fischbach:And we're like, OK. So we started doing something. And, you know, we were laughing about it. And we're like, I don't know what the hell was happening. That was really silly. My mom was a little bit more reserved about it all, which was, why aren't you laughing? And she's like, I think this is referencing a moment in her childhood where someone like drowned in a river. And she was remembering that. But our experience not knowing that was like, grandma's completely lost it. Ha ha. This is so silly. Funny. We're collecting the water dust. She's holding her oxygen in the air and dancing on the bed.

49:31Mark Fischbach:And I guess it was reliving a traumatic moment that my mom, at least that's what my mom's interpretation was but that was another one of those like haha but uh maybe I shouldn't have been laughing and enjoying it quite so much now that I know what maybe was being represented a laugh's a laugh you know you just gotta take them when they come you know funeral you know baby shower other horrible event damn I wasn't trying to say baby shower is a horrible event I was like I was trying to go horrible event not bad good one horrible event I was trying to make a pattern I wasn't saying no no come on guys please

50:02Ethan Nestor:I work on patterns with James Alon I see it.

50:05Mark Fischbach:Truck, car, truck, car Truck. I see it That might be the, maybe I should read the title Funeral, baby shower, other horrible events. It's a good title for it That's a memoir Well thank you all for embarking I know that this wasn't the most uplifting Uplifting moments, but I just got sad on the mind, you know, I've got some stress in life and it's bringing out the sad so we went through it. So let me go through points Mark, you have points for gave us no details. I don't remember about what, but gave us no details. The scary tapes ad one year married. Congrats on that. Cool drink. Cause I got distracted by your drink cup, uh, dressing up for Vegas.

50:42Mark Fischbach:No gambling since you've been married. Uh, you brought up the work life balance. You got a point from Bob complex layers, whatever that means. Bots question mark. And then funeral baby showers and other horrible events. All right, I'll dig it. Bring them out. One, two, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11 points. I'm boned. Bob, you got points for stories, scary, AI. You've been married for forever. You can do stuff now. Fancy ass French cleats. You got the bummed out segue point. Predatory gambling versus responsible betting points. Corny dad TikToks. You are consistently are uplifting sad. Desensitizing news.

51:23Mark Fischbach:You dropped a ball or dropped something at one point that shocked Mark and I so much.

51:27Ethan Nestor:Oh, it's this huge brass thing that's really, really heavy and loud when you drop it accidentally.

51:32Mark Fischbach:It's also very loud when it lands under your microphone. You got a point for sad becoming positivity and then grandma's first swear word. You have 13 points. What the hell? Told you I never stood a chance. I think literally the segue point in dropping the ball is what broke the tie. Well, we'll find out. We got to do wheel spins. How many spins will there be? I want to say it'll be three.

51:57Ethan Nestor:damn it'll be two are you adding something to the wheel we really gotta add in betting points during the the number of spins spin i really want to get the wagers get some wagers had the happiest week

52:12Mark Fischbach:unless someone had a really awful week and it's just being rubbed in but we'll take it as the

52:15Ethan Nestor:positive side had the least terrifying week we got two spins coming two spin two spins there's the first one It deserves most sympathy Kind of thematic with the episode Yeah, it kind of is I don't really feel like I deserve Any particular sympathy My foot's healed I feel like that's good I'm lower on points, that really deserves some sympathy, guys If you want to give me A chance at all, you would have to Give it this to me, come on, guys Otherwise, if I lose this right up We don't even get to do the second because it wouldn't matter really, would it? It could be golf rules. It could be. What are the odds?

52:58It's not going to happen again.

53:00Mark Fischbach:Oh, not good. Yeah, it wouldn't be good. I'm just going to say re-spin. I don't think either one of you deserve sympathy. No, I'm so pathetic right now.

53:07Ethan Nestor:Hey, I thought you made a pretty strong case, Mark. I thought that was very pathetic. Spin number one, back in the spin. Half point for Bob. Okay. I feel like I should get this one. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I can't really argue that one. That one's pretty straightforward. Now there's not even a point. What is this world? It could be golf rules. Oh, no. There's no way. It won't happen. Oh, God. I'm so pathetic. Spin number two. We wouldn't do golf rules. Honest. I couldn't even do any fun facts this episode. Oh, so many fun facts. I think that's a re-spin. Don't worry, Mark. You're just increasing your chances of golf rules coming up.

53:57Ethan Nestor:I'll fight for Wade! All right. I'm on the board. Oh, now we would really get the sympathy point. Look at this guy.

54:10Mark Fischbach:You know what? I feel so bad. I'm going to let you go first with the loser speech. Oh, man, guys. This is a sad day for me, especially. the saddest actually the only way to make this the saddest possible episode was for me to lose so honestly you know it's as fitting as ever it could be all of you are rooting for me everyone was pulling for me everyone was pulling everything for me and yet i couldn't pull it out i lost because i just couldn't pull it out i've been there very sadly and pathetically spoken well done uh bob winner's speech there's that thing again it's still loud guys I can't give any more points I want to I want to spew them out right now but I just can't spew all over your points I win so much

54:54Ethan Nestor:these days that honestly I'm getting kind of numb to it I better I better start hunting for something that really scratches that itch better than just winning another episode does you know I'm piling them up clearly the leader in total wins and I don't see that change anytime soon so maybe I'll start trying to lose and that way you know someone else will stand a chance wow um well i guess mark and i

55:18Mark Fischbach:would appreciate that because we could use some more wins right me especially i don't know if the wins point totals says that but you know on this in this particular time when i'm hosting yes well thank you guys uh appreciate it good episode uh for everybody out there watching sorry if we made you sad but you know i think bob winning being as the he had the only uplifting sad stuff whereas i I think Mark and I were just kind of down in the, we're real down in the dumps. Bob picked us up. He got the win. So stay tuned for the next one where Bob will host. If you haven't already, go follow these guys.

55:46Mark Fischbach:Bob at my scrim, Market Markiplier, me at Minion77 or LordMinion777, whatever. We have merch at distractible.shop. I'm at least 99.7 % sure that's correct. And merch comes and goes. So make sure you check it out frequently because there's new stuff. There's old stuff. There's no stuff. Who knows? Mystery every time you look. And I guess we'll see you in the next one where Bob will host and we'll see what we get into. He won't win that one probably unless...

56:09Ethan Nestor:Oh, you know what the next one's gonna be? It's gonna be a scary tapes.

56:13Mark Fischbach:Get your big person pants buckled for some scary tapes. That's what they say in the nowhere ever. Until then, podcast.