The Smell You Can Lick

9 Mar 2026 · 1 h 7 min · 25 chapters

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In short

Distractable discusses “phantasia” and how vividly the hosts can imagine sensory experiences across different senses—especially hearing, smell, taste, and tactile texture—plus proprioception/motor imagery. They also start with a newsy small-talk segment about Markiplier’s VFX hardware dispute and headlines.

Guests (competitors/hosts)

Bill Simmons is mentioned as the intro voice, but the episode’s main guests are Mark and Wade (Distractable regulars). Mark is a content creator with strong voice-impression abilities; Wade is a performer who can “hear” some music internally and is described as having a strong mind’s-eye/scene sketching in improv contexts.

Key claims

Some people have “aphantasia” (no mind’s eye) and related “mind’s ear” differences; Mark says he can’t hear imagined music well (he hears his own breath). Wade and Mark discuss that impressions feel accurate internally but may sound worse out loud. Smell imagery is near-zero for Mark; taste is vague but texture is vivid. Tactile imagery can be strong enough to feel gross (styrofoam/felt). Proprioception imagery can be practiced and may aid meditation/sleep.

Notable examples

imagining Jeff Goldblum/Christopher Walken voices; Dungeon Crawler Carl audiobook voice-actor mismatch; “licking hair” and “felt roof of an old car”; imagining licking basketball rubber; counting sheep-like bowl/ball motor imagery for sleep.

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Chapters

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The Hosting Game

2:00 to 3:19

Bob explains the format of the show and introduces competitors.

“I can't believe that's the bombshell for the last episode ever.”

Controversy and Miscommunication

3:19 to 4:35

Mark discusses misinterpretations of his comments on a podcast.

“Where every sentence I speak can be misinterpreted to make a headline for an article.”

The VFX Company Debate

4:35 to 6:45

Mark clarifies his relationship with a VFX company amid rumors.

“What I said was, we were subcontracting a VFX company to do some of the simulations for the blood in the opening sequence of the movie.”

Media Misrepresentation

6:45 to 8:01

Discussion on how media often misquotes and misrepresents statements.

Personal Updates and Life Events

8:01 to 11:15

Wade shares about his recent medical experiences and personal projects.

“We already have a three-letter name on the podcast, too.”

Book Discussions and Interests

11:15 to 14:01

Hosts dive into their reading habits and book recommendations.

“So in my free time, I've been rewatching West Wing for some reason, reading John Grisham.”

Exploring Aphantasia and Music

14:01 to 17:57

The hosts discuss their experiences with aphantasia, particularly in relation to music and visualization.

“Oh, you're the one who couldn't listen to your own name being said in a sentence where I said five words.”

Exploring Aphantasia and Music

18:01 to 18:28

The hosts discuss their experiences with aphantasia, particularly in relation to music and visualization.

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Voices in Our Heads

18:28 to 28:00

The hosts delve into how they perceive voices and sounds in their minds, discussing impressions and reading experiences.

“Not even like the buzzing of the lips for like the two budget.”

Imagination vs. Reality in Storytelling

28:00 to 28:58

Explores how vivid imagination can sometimes detract from enjoying adaptations of books.

“There's moments where it's like, I can't keep up.”
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Audio Fantasia and Music Perception

28:58 to 30:08

Discusses the challenges of hearing audio elements while focusing on lyrics in songs.

Struggles with Smell and Memory

30:08 to 31:38

Delves into personal experiences with the sense of smell and its connection to memory.

“I could not tell you what a thing smells like to save my life.”

The Complexity of Smell Perception

31:38 to 33:28

Explores the difficulty in conjuring smells and the relationship between senses.

“of your house growing up or the smell of a grandparent's particular cologne or perfume or something.”

Conjuring Tastes and Food Memories

33:28 to 35:39

Examines how tastes can be imagined and the connection to food textures.

“Like if I think of that warhead video that we did, I'm like, I already got it.”

Texture Imagery and Its Impact

35:39 to 36:58

Discusses the strong associations with textures and how they affect sensory experiences.

“You'll have to eat a lot of them, but they're real good.”

Exploring Positive and Negative Textures

36:58 to 39:28

Shares experiences of both pleasant and unpleasant textures and their mental associations.

“My brain did something horrible where I got hair, like licking hair sensations.”

Motor Imagery and Sensory Connections

39:28 to 42:00

Talks about the concept of proprioception and its role in motor imagery during relaxation.

“Like texture to me comes very easily in my imagination.”

Imagining Motor Skills for Relaxation

42:00 to 45:20

Explore how visualizing movements can aid in relaxation and sleep.

“it first, but the more I did it, the more I practiced it, the more I got better at it.”

The Science of Visualization in Sports

45:20 to 49:00

Discuss scientific evidence supporting visualization techniques in athletic performance.

“And like, I actually kept building and it went pretty well.”

Senses and Their Connection to Memory

49:00 to 52:40

Examine how different senses, especially smell and taste, relate to memory and perception.

Senses and Their Connection to Memory

53:09 to 53:35

Examine how different senses, especially smell and taste, relate to memory and perception.

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Understanding Vehicle Connection and Identity

53:35 to 56:01

Discuss how people relate to their vehicles and the psychology behind it.

“I love when we do episodes where we're just talking about a thing that applies exclusively to me.”

Coin Toss and Audience Punishments

56:01 to 57:29

The hosts discuss the implications of a coin toss and audience involvement in punishing unfairness.

“Well, I'm sure nothing bad will happen from this coin flip.”

Veto Powers and Audience Suggestions

57:30 to 58:58

They explore the idea of veto powers when selecting audience-suggested punishments.

Point System and Recap

58:59 to 1:02:41

The hosts reflect on the point system and the current standings among them.

“Someone posted a spreadsheet of the points recently.”
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0:39Mark Fischbach:Propel with Gatorade electrolytes. This episode is brought to you by ChatGPT. Hey, it's Bill Simmons from the Bill Simmons Podcast. Have you guys heard about ChatGPT work? It's the new way to use ChatGPT for bigger multi-step projects. And when you need more than just answers, Give ChatGPT work access to your apps and files, and it can create real work documents like spreadsheets, slides, and structured reports. Get started at ChatGPT.com by selecting work mode available on Plus and Pro plans. Good evening, gentle listeners or watchers, and welcome to Distractable. This episode, Bombshell Bob brings up bankruptcy, blows hard, and investigates sensory imagination.

1:24West Wing Wade becomes Slanderman, fixates on the Sahara and steps on Granny. Media mogul Mark catches more controversy, consumes Carl, pumps with fist, suffers a phantasia and tongues feet. From cutting to black to car symbiosis. Yes! It's time for The Smell You Can Lick. Now sit back and prepare to be distracted and enjoy the show Hello and welcome back to Mindy St. Clair's favorite podcast And if you don't know who that is, I'm not gonna explain it My name is Bob and I'm your host and this is Distractable I'm hosting because I won the last one because the way this shit show works is I mean the way this show works, regular show works Two people compete and one person hosts And whoever wins between the two competitors They host the next one Unless they don't, which has happened before But not a lot, but it can happen But it won't, but it could But I'm joined by today's competitors And future hosts Mark and Wade Hello, I'm Mark

2:36Mark Fischbach:I'm the other one I'm Dad Oh man, that's a sentence I've not gotten to utter in 25 years Yeah, hey, wait a minute Holy moly, man Not quite the reveal in the last season here. I can't believe that's the bombshell for the last episode ever. I've been doing that a lot with James lately, so sorry, it just leaks out. How do you cut to black in real life? Do you have like a curtain you carry around? Yeah, it's just a big blanket. You know the trick with the birds where you're like, oh, oh, and then you throw it up and you run away and then the bird is all, what the fuck? I say it with dogs, not birds, but I know what you're talking about.

3:11It's all the same. Babies, birds, dogs, it's all the same. They're all the same. Before we get into the main episode topic, we do small talk. How you guys doing? I've reached a funny new level of fame. What's so funny about it? Where every sentence I speak can be misinterpreted to make a headline for an article. Not that this hasn't happened before. Mark, why are you sparking so many controversies? What are you doing? Oh, man. I don't know. I don't know. So I get a text from Wes, you know, of Burning Tractor, the VFX company for Iron Lung that did all of that. And he tells me, hey, I know what you're talking about here, but I'm getting a lot of messages asking why you fired us on Iron Lung.

3:55So for those who don't know, Wes is the owner of Burning Tractor, a company that I've worked with on VFX for all of the bigger projects I've done with Heist and Space and now Iron Lung. I was on a separate podcast called The Lemonade Stand with Doug Doug and his various friends of whose name I definitely remember. And this isn't a bad look. Here they are now. Alien Atriok.

4:17Mark Fischbach:Wait, Markiplier left Distractable to go to Lemonade Stand and then he burned a tractor and fired his VFX team? Yeah, that's pretty much it. That's the hard hitting news we report here. Oh my God. See, the headline of this article is Markiplier ditched the Iron Lung VFX company over budget and turned his own bathroom into a render farm with old servers from eBay, which is not what I said at all. What I said was, we were subcontracting a VFX company to do some of the simulations for the blood in the opening sequence of the movie. The problem was the iterations that I needed, because there were some translation differences between hiring them and what I would say I want and what they would execute upon.

4:58The problem with simulations is they're incredibly computationally intense. They require a lot of hardware specialized for just doing simulations. It's not just about GPU power. It's about distributed CPU power. So the fidelity of the shot, it's like, this is all me. And I'm reading my own quote, which is in this article here. And I remember that that was accurate. That was just a quote because I did actually watch that. And I somehow I'm remembering word for word what you said about that part.

5:23Mark Fischbach:He said he fired his blood company and forced his fans to donate blood for his movie. Pretty much. While you were saying it, I was thinking, man, Mark complained so much about how much he fucking hated Wes. And he was so glad he fired those guys behind the scenes. So crazy. He's coming out. Yeah, no, I didn't. I didn't see that that was being quoted like that. I think this counts as libel. Is this libel? Libel is when it's done been written. Yeah. So saying that I ditched the VFX company, not only over budget, it's just such a ditch ingenuous title. is like I feel my you know how I always sue literally anyone at any opportunity I'm like yeah I heard you fired Amy then slept with the director's wife yeah yeah yeah well libel I mean slander that one slander get him yeah get me get me for the right one man come on I guess that one's true so I'm gonna grow a couple extra arms call me the slander man why has no one done that yet that seems obvious wait that's so obvious thanks thanks man that's how all my humor is no no i mean like it's such a good idea i feel like it should have been done at this point maybe it was i don't know sue me whoever i stole it from this it's it's funny i don't really mind because the benefit of having a youtube channel is the ability to just like reach a lot more people than say an article ever could but also the problem with that is that lemonade stand podcast you know all the words are there but even if i say a big stream and say all the words people can just pick apart the words and do whatever they want which is fun anyway i didn't fire wes i want to be famous like that that sounds great yeah the main point was to get the hardware so that wes and his team could use the hardware as many times as they needed and all i would have to do is the power so it wasn't that vfx jobs were lost you know i i had that thought i hadn't seen any of this but i did watch most of the lemonade stand episode and i was watching and i was like this is like one of those things they're going to quote him but they're going to like cut it up or take like five words and then there's going to be like gossip youtubers or like headlines or something of people be like markiplier puts somebody on blast about their involvement in iron log some stupid shit i mean you don't say stuff that you're not like allowed to say but you don't play the game that people play where normally in an interview like that someone who's like a media trained professional in the industry would be like oh it's great they're great to work with like they don't say anything right they say well they were asking you questions and you were like oh it's so expensive we had we ran into problems but i learned a lot like you just said like what happened wait markiplier went broke and knew nothing about movie making before he started yeah just that one that one clip where you're talking about the the money and you're like and the part that goes back to the budget like ah man i'm so broke wait for that to get quoted like markiplier goes bankrupt Markiplier makes$24 Oh fuck I'm so fucked He's got so much money Oh my god Congrats man for making it Thanks thanks thanks It's only up from here That's fun Hey all press is good press Right Wes?

8:29I don't know Wes by the way I've never talked to Wes Yeah you have Oh no I have talked to Wes You've literally been on set with him But I don't know him like that I don't know him to where I could be like Yeah right Wes buddy He did so good on space I'm sorry you had to fire him for Iron Lone That's so tragic Yeah, you know, hey, he just got an ego and he got more expensive and, you know, I can't have that.

8:49Mark Fischbach:We already have a three-letter name on the podcast, too. We can't have more of them in our lives. I think the next headline is Markiplier replaces VFX companies with real good AI. Yes, that's the move. That's what it is. It's a secret plan for Mark to develop his own AI slop house. Think of how much money I can save slash make slash lose. How do you cackle in rich? Yeah, didn't everybody make an AI stuff only making money? It's great. They're all making huge profits, I think, as far as I have heard, probably. Oh, yeah. No, they're spending money. That's for sure. It's fine. It's going to be fine.

9:23Mark Fischbach:Huge profits. I've been slightly distracted. I'm trying to think of a good pun for Sahara, but bald. Don't remember why, but that's what my brain's been working on, in case you guys are curious. What is Sahara from? Don't remember. Something about when Mark mentioned hairline like an hour ago. I don't even know if we were recording at that point, but my brain got completely locked in and I was like, hairline, I'm like the Sahara bald. Hold on. and I've just been there this whole time. So you're just not participating in any of the rest of this? I've been participating. I just want, I'm slight, I'm all my great, the slander, remember slander man?

9:52Mark Fischbach:He came with slander man. I do remember. Oh, you did say slander man. Is that one of those random, like you just a speaking spell and that just happened to come out and like you get, you take in information. Yeah, you pulled the cord and it landed on slander man pun. Wade is our monkey with a typewriter. I mean, yeah, that is a pretty fit description. The monkey's still bald. Sorry, Wade. Well, that's fun. I don't have much to say about that. I don't think I'm ever going to encounter that sort of issue in my life. Yeah, but it's okay. I don't mind at all. I should just start saying more controversial shit just so I can get news outlets to misquote me.

10:23Mark Fischbach:Markiplier co-host says, Mark, that's your problem. I'll never have to deal with it. So you should. Distractable ended over spat over Markiplier's newfound fame. Jealous co-hosts could not. Anyway. Feuds over whether or not Markiplier should have fired Wes dissolves distractible. Do you have any goofy headlines about your life, Wade? No, thankfully not. I was at a vet or a doctor's office every day of the week last week, and I've kind of just done with that It was exhausting and tiring and annoying where they try to decide which one was supposed to treat you or Oh, well, the only one that treated me was a dentist that went well.

10:55Mark Fischbach:I stubble my teeth went pretty good I think that's success success success Yeah, I won't go into all the specifics because you know medical and hippos and whatnot Not that I'm the doctor. So I guess I could share but I won't anyway It was just a long bleh week. Proustie didn't do well with the anesthesia So we had like two days of misery with him and just a lot. And then it's tax season. It's been a lot of not fun stuff. So in my free time, I've been rewatching West Wing for some reason, reading John Grisham. Still trying to finish that book. I've only read periodically, but I've tried to finish that book so I can start Dungeon Crawler Carl about halfway through Runaway Jury now.

11:28Mark Fischbach:I was going to read more last night, but then I have like one of those little necklights that you could read with in the dark. I didn't charge it. So the battery died in the middle of like a really exciting chapter last night. I just went to sleep angry. If only you lived in a house with lights. Yeah, but I was comfortable in bed. I wasn't going to like turn on the bright light while Molly's sleeping. What did you do? Quietly in the pitch black room. You just wait. I have done that noise before out of frustration at night and woken Molly up. So I do that sometimes. That's very funny. That and playing a bunch of random Pokemon games.

12:04Mark Fischbach:Oh, I 100 %ed Barry, Barry, Barry. I went through an achievement hunted last night. Love that game. I finished Dungeon Crawler, Carl. At least all the books that are available. Uh-oh. You've officially passed me. Well, you haven't finished a lot. Where are you? I'm on the last book right now. I'm like halfway through the last book that's currently out, book seven or whatever. I mean, I am impressed by the author's ability to constantly make the stakes go boing. I know, right? It's fucking nuts. Considering where it started, I'm just like, oh. i think my favorite version of that is the transition from the end of the butcher's masquerade into the beginning of the next because at the end of that book you're like holy shit oh my god and then you start the next one and you're just like oh oh my god holy fuck like it just keeps crazy i'll relate soon you'll get there buddy you wouldn't think that it because like what the subject matter is i mean even if the setting is as apocalyptic as it sounds it's It just is a really smart way of escalating, and there's a lot of complexity in there, and I think that it's impressive.

13:10Mark Fischbach:I like when the dungeon crawls. Like Star Wars opening crawls? Or like crawls like creepy horror movie at you crawls? It's more like when they're trapped in the trash compactor on the detention level. And there's no 3PO this time. Was it 3PO or was it... R2 is the one actually shutting down all the trash compactors on the detention level, I think. But 3PO was there. That's true, but I think he was talking to 3PO on the thing, and then R2 was the one actually plugged in. 3PO did carry the microphone walkie-talkie, whatever the fuck that was. We all lead fascinating lives, don't we? Really. 3PO's on all the trash car packers on the detention level.

13:45Mark Fischbach:They're dying, R2. Yeah, that's what we're talking about. That's the one. Yeah, he's talking to 3PO. I just want to make sure. My brain was like, and now we're in legally troublesome waters. You did too good of an impression of that scene. Wade, you get a segue point. One of us does? Yay. Wade, I said Wade. Yeah, I did. I did. Wade. Yeah, sorry, Wade. It was... No, you know what? You're right. I misspoke. Mark, you get a segue point. Wait, hold on. No. Me, me, me. Oh, you're the one who couldn't listen to your own name being said in a sentence where I said five words. I was so distracted by Mark thrashing around.

14:22Mark Fischbach:I was trying to think of another headline for him. It wasn't thrashing. This is just pumping my fist in victory. But I'm sitting and I only have so much mobility. Yeah but I can't see your full cutout So it looks like you're just thrashing because you're just shoulders And a head I just got the sudden urge To convert to standing I'm not going to do it It only ever goes well It's too dangerous I can't do that to myself I would never I actually don't think I can do that anymore Since I moved to offices I think if I did that I would actually just Disappear from the call forever I've tried to tell Molly I can't stand anymore but she still makes me go places Yeah I don't know if that's going to work I appreciate the effort though

15:02mark it's the segue point yes because wade was trying to recall and then accurately did recall a quote from a movie look we're in the area of uh rehashing right this is this is where we are as a show this there's nothing new under the sun anymore but i was talking to mandy recently and we were talking more about a fantasia which is a thing that we've talked about on the show great Disney movie if you haven't seen the previous episodes a fantasia is you ever see that meme of where it's like there's a real apple and then there's like nothing and there's versions of the apple in between a fantasia means that a person cannot visualize things in their head they have no mind's eye I have complete a fantasia I don't see shit if I close my eyes and try to imagine things I see like blackness and I got nothing I get no but we were talking about that because we've talked about that before and i find it really interesting because i think we cover the spectrum from me being completely nothing to mark having really pretty vivid realistic ability to picture things and mandy pointed out that that's one sense that your ability to see stuff and see things in your mind's eyes like interesting but we have a bunch of other senses senses sexes we have a lot of sexes on this show but i want to talk about our senses i wanted to just sort of like do some non-scientific tests and talk to you guys about what level of, if at all, aphantasia or not aphantasia you have with other things.

16:33Because I realized in talking about it with Mandy, like I am a musician, not as a career, but I went to school to be a musician and I played a lot of music in my life. I don't hear shit either. If I'm imagining like a piece of music that I know or like a song I like, like it feels like I'm listening to it. If I imagine the song, I don't hear it it's not like I'm playing the CD in my head but I imagine both of you guys if you're trying to imagine a song that you know and like you just do you hear it in your mind's ear I mean we've seen it with Wade of him bopping to Shakira we know every time you've got Shakira in your head we see the little oh dude I was just enter Sandmanning right

17:11Mark Fischbach:now Talaga don't sue me yeah I can it's harder to hear the instrumental I guess I can hear the lyrics very clearly like now I'm gonna hold on I'm gonna Shakira for a moment you guys talk we all know about your undying love for Shakira but literally for me it's funny because like if I like you said enter Sandman know that song I can sing that song mostly probably if I try and like hear the opening guitar part where it's just the guitar and the and the hi-hat comes in I know the rhythm and I know how it sounds but in my head all I hear is my breath because I tend to like breathe in and out as a I played a wind instrument right so when I'm playing music a lot of times I'm like I'm blowing on my instrument mentally in a way.

17:53And all I'm hearing is like my breath. So it literally sounds like. This episode is brought to you by State Farm. Listening to this podcast instead of doom scrolling, smart move. Another smart move? Getting help from one of State Farm's 19 ,000 local agents when you choose to bundle home and auto. Bundling, just another way to save with the personal price plan. Prices are based on rating plans that vary by state. Coverage options are selected by the customer. Availability, amount of discounts and savings And eligibility vary by state

18:28That's so weird It's fucking I've never thought about it until Mandy brought this up It's crazy I feel like I'm listening to the song Like I know how much I like that song And I feel like I feel the I can't fucking hear it I don't hear anything I hear my own stupid breath in my head I would love to hear the symphony of your breath in like a full orchestra. And now the bass. Not even like the buzzing of the lips for like the two budget.

18:59This is my life, man. This is my experience.

19:02Mark Fischbach:That reminds me of the South Park episode where they were doing the Guitar Hero thing and they just brought one of the guitars and just like... He can play Buckethead without the game. Click, click, click, click, click, click, click, click. No, literally, I appreciate why that joke is funny, but I was always kind of like, yeah that's what it sounds like but apparently other people could hear theoretically could hear the song okay so we're covering hearing first right yeah we can talk about whatever i have i want to cover all of the senses but can you guys if you were imagining jeff goldblum saying something can you hear his voice say things that you like because that's a common thing is like oh if i'm reading something it's like oh it's like i'm hearing it in his voice can you guys do that yeah nothing christopher walken yeah i just pictured him in the cowbell skit and i heard him talking yeah i physically feel christopher walken in that like i feel how i feel what i try and mimic his voice not that i do a very accurate impression right but what i think like if i was trying to have him talk in my head internally i'm like like i'm mouthing the words but it's dead silence i think repetition helps like i'm trying to think of like a conversation with my mom and I'm like, I'm having a harder time listening to my mom, like imagining her voice that I am like something I've heard multiple times over, like a song or a skit, like those kinds of things I can pull back very easily, but just like a random sentence or something like that's harder for me to form.

20:25Mark Fischbach:I guess I think I can do it, but it's harder to do than something I know I've heard and seen. I have to like read words on that are on my screen to know exactly like, oh, there's that voice. But what's weird is you guys know my impressions. top notch yeah only the best sure sure that's in my head it's like perfect but if i tried to do this out loud i mean is that just me deluding myself am i not as good at hearing it in my head as i think i am is the subconscious just a complete liar i don't know if you've ever done this right but if you like if you imagined jeff goldblum line or something right or if you imagine the like i need more cowbell sketch and you you hear in your head you hear christopher walk in like I put my pants on one leg at a time whatever and then you play that exact clip I feel like you have a probably an accurate enough judgment to where you could be like yeah that was pretty like it sounded like I thought it would sound it sounded like it hurt I heard it in my head I think the problem is that doing an impression is not as straightforward as it seems yeah because we're physically constrained I don't think it's that you can't hear the voices I think it's just really hard to recreate someone else's voice because you're because of the physiological components of it.

21:37Mark Fischbach:Also, the way we hear things in our head is different than how they come out of our mouths. Because some of the impressions I do that I think are some of my best sound terrible out loud, but like the way I hear it, I'm like, oh, that's so good. And then the ones I'm like, yeah, that's okay. People are like, that's such a good impression. I'm like, is it? I was driving just around. I can't know where in particular, but I was driving and I was lost in thought. And I had this strange thought that kind of gave me like shivers down my spine. And I went like, does the voice in my head sound like me?

22:03Like I asked myself that. And then I was talking to myself in my head i was hearing my own voice i'm like it doesn't sound like me like if i was speaking out loud sound like me i'm like then who is it then who who is who's in my head so i was like freak myself on my drive because i'm just like but then after that i was like oh wait no it sounds like me but did it before you know like is that just it pretending now to sound like me the other person in your head was like oh wait uh yeah how do i sound like hello everybody is that what i sound like to you in your head always man you go back to the

22:35Mark Fischbach:video that's not even what i sound like there hello everybody no in my head it's a perfect impersonation honest that little head bob that's exactly right yeah yeah with them with my not face kim hello everybody yeah well another one that i think is interesting and we're talking about dungeon crawler carl so this is a good thing to focus on i never thought about this until i started getting into this specific book series because the audiobooks for dungeon crawler carl are very popular. And it's because the voice actor who performs the audio books does a crazy good job. Almost all the voices, except for a couple exceptions, are from the same guy.

23:10And the voices are wildly varied and very good. And I kept seeing people being like, oh, I love the audio book. That's not how I thought Donut would sound. I have a totally different voice for whatever. And I'm like, I didn't think they sounded like anything. Like, what the fuck do you mean? That's not how they sound to you. They sound like they sound when he sounds them in my head. I don't hear, but apparently people, when you're like reading or whatever, you, you make a voice. Do you guys do this? This ties into a very interesting thing that I think can finally relate some of this aphantasia to not.

23:41And it just made me realize I have two modes of reading, right? I have a mode of reading where I am sounding everything out and I am hearing the voices and I'm it's slower. It is just more involved. And, and it's like, I'm, I'm, you know, I can't say that that's helping vividly imagine anything, but sometimes I'm reading the words in my head as I'm doing it. Right. And then when the character get there, it can be their voices. The other mode of reading is there is nothing happening as I'm reading. It is pure just comprehension. That's when I'm moving fast. That I think paints the better picture of things happening, but less about the voices.

24:13It like turns into this different thing. Or sometimes it's just like, I'm just comprehending because I'm like, yeah, I want to get through this section because it was like, for some reason or another, I like my attention lapses and I'm just like zoned out and I am understanding everything, but it's not translating to everything there. So I think actually I'm going to lump that middle one with the vividly just to the first one because it is slower and it's like taking your time and it's like, oh, I want to really savor every word here. And then the other one is just pure comprehension. I don't have any imaginations associated with it.

24:42It is just word go in. It does not get transcribed. It is just the information of it goes into the ether and it's darkness. You feel like you comprehend less when you're reading, I don't know, sort of creatively or whatever, when you're enjoying it, or is it just like slower? I honestly don't know because I haven't taken a test between the two. I think it's probably about the same, but one is faster, much faster, which might explain why you're so quick witted is because if you don't have to translate it into another like layer of imagination, then it can go like, so boom. I think that there is something about that when when people are really good at what they do and really tuned in to to what they need to make happen.

25:23It's it's unconscious. It's instinctive. And I think maybe passing through that like instinctive layer removes any of the conscious imagination front area. This is a thing that we've done. We have together. The three of us have done improv comedy in a lot of different content. We do it on the show, but we've done it in a more traditional sense in person on stage where we're building. You know, we're trying to build a scene. We're trying to do a sort of traditional improv. When we're doing that in person, are you we're on stage and someone is like, oh, welcome to my ice cream shop in your head.

25:55Are you like, here's the ice cream? Like, this is the counter. Here's the shop. Are you like crafting? Are you imagining that into reality and like merging whatever something you're imagining with what we're doing in the scene in a way?

26:11Mark Fischbach:Yeah, that's how I keep track of like physically where things are. Like if we use a broom and then we set it down, I'm like, there's the broom. That would be so helpful. Yeah, it's not perfect. You know, it's not like I'm looking at a VR headset and seeing stuff lying around, but it's like a quick sketch of like the area. Well, yes. But like if you look back over your like if we're doing something and you look back over your shoulder and you're like, that's where the broom is or whatever. You have like some imagery of it or something. Not perfectly, not always. But like, yes, to some extent, the important things in the scene that we need to keep track of like whenever I do a good there's obviously times where I'm like oh crap I just stepped on grandma I forgot that's where she was in the scene but like if I'm doing a good job on that particular scene then yeah I'm like yes that's the broom here's the ice cream stand there's the wood beams and there's the sign that says ice cream like I see those things in the scene while we're doing it they're like rough sketch layout versions of it I can see that that would be really beneficial when we're doing oh immensely can't imagine not having it oh you do you do improv better than any of us you know like you can't talk oh you you can't have all the benefits yeah but it's i it's like one line i'm just i might as well be standing in the middle of the space not interacting with anything and everyone else around me is doing shit and i'm just like ah i can't see so i don't know what we're doing right now like ah that would be that would really change how that feels to me i think i suspect but that's really interesting yeah we did a scene one time and I remember Ethan was like mining and I was like picturing him mining something like I even saw a point where he like looked down like I saw the rock break and fall that he hit with the pickaxe and I was like oh that's cool like yeah there's moments where I get really into it then there's moments where I'm like kind of half there because my brain's not functioning I'm so worried about what I'm gonna say that I kind of miss what other people are putting down so there's definitely as a not professional at it I mean there's definitely moments of oh I'm fully in and There's moments where it's like, I can't keep up.

28:04What's there? I think also it can be a detriment sometimes because if we're so caught up in the vivid imagination of things, we're not focused on what's actually happening because we're trying to like juggle like, OK, the counter was over there and he wiped that and he's like, what did he just do? Oh, no. Yeah. So it can slow things down, much like with the reading. It does slow things down. And, you know, in the middle of a scene, isn't it a time to go around and look, I'm enjoying this. I'm savoring this every word. oh no oh no is it my turn to talk to go back to the books part i think i i don't consciously like

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28:39Mark Fischbach:make or invent voices for people but if there's like a movie adaptation or show adaptation of something i've read and it's not at all what like i guess i imagined i noticed that more if it's if it's close enough i'm like okay that's fine but there's been i can't think of an example off the top of my head but there's been certainly times where i've seen like a show or a movie and someone talks is like i don't imagine like the book of mice and men you know if christopher walken played Lenny's like I tend to rabbits George it's like that is not what I imagine Lenny sounding like I can't get into the movie because that character is so not what my brain thought he would sound like I don't appreciate it whenever it's more like what I expect whenever it's the opposite or very different than my brain's like wrong wrong can't get into this movie can't get into this movie wrong voice bad voice bad voice you don't want the bad voice that's so funny I've always thought people were just being ridiculous when they see a movie and they're like that character's all wrong that's not how batman would talk and that's not how he's supposed and i'm like this is the one movie of this he looks like he looks in the movie i feel like but they're you know they have read the comic books they have read the non-comic regular books whatever they have these images i don't have that problem i'm easy going i guess that's why i'm so casual i am vengeance well we wandered away a little bit but so you guys don't have any more or less a fantasia as applies to audio stuff i don't think so i hear it pretty well no yeah i can i can play pretty much whole songs and i have about the same i think it's hard to hear the instrumental in the lyrics at the same time i kind of have to focus on one a little bit more than the other there's some parts where they overlap but if i'm focused on the words it's harder to hear the music but then like as soon as like gripping your pillow tight that's like then i hear like the drum drop what is it what song is that interesting man biting your pillow hard flipping your pillow to the cold side mr sland man well i don't know if any of these are going to be different then i guess i was curious if it was like all the so far we're all we're all the same no one's the avatar of senses in their heads i i'm willing to bet i don't know maybe mark is mark mark seems to be the strongest of us with the different types of bending we've discussed so far but all right next one smells nothing this is where i think i actually have a fan nosia no no fanta nose fantasia oil Olfactorasia.

30:53I could not tell you what a thing smells like to save my life. I don't have strong smell memories. Some things will be like smell and I'll be like, oh, I've smelled that before. I really, truly don't have a smell genation. I hate that word, but it's very accurate.

31:11Mark Fischbach:A handful. I can go a rose and gasoline. I can kind of get the scent of if I imagine. But other things I'm like, okay, garlicky mashed potatoes. I can kind of get the garlic like a really strong garlic but like I'm just trying to like a steak I'm like come on give me something like no nothing really coming there I sometimes wonder if I have a sense of smell and I go like no I can smell that okay well so so yeah so conjuring a smell is tough but what about if you I don't know you know gasoline is kind of what if it's like the smell of your house growing up or the smell of a grandparent's particular cologne or perfume or something.

31:48I'd have to actually smell it. Yeah, I'd have to actually smell it. Shit. But if I actually smell something, it's like a smack in the face still. Like, I do have a strong connection to it memory wise, but I don't know if that changes whether I'm

32:01Mark Fischbach:nose fantastic or not. Smells a tough one. I don't have a lot of smells that I'm like, yes, I can I can bring that out of nowhere. So like if I smelled that smell, yeah, I'd remember it probably. I'd be like, oh, man, this reminds me of like bacon at my grandparents house. I'd wake up and it was cooking. I smell it. But like right now I'm like, come on, bacon smell, bacon smell. It's just not coming. I can't conjure anything. Like even if it bad smells, like just poop, straight poop. I can't smell. And I'm grateful for that. No, that is nice. That is nice. I'm like, give me food. Mark's like poop.

32:30Come on, poop. No, I'm saying a strong smell, like a bad one. Cause you know, negative memories are stronger than positive ones sometimes. So it's like, I don't think that I can conjure that smell in my imagination. I wouldn't even know the capability of doing that. I wonder if people can do that. That crosses a barrier to be like where if you're trying to imagine a visual or if you're trying to hear something, that's a thing where like, it's not completely tangible. I mean, audio is sound wave. So you are, but like when you're trying to imagine a smell or a taste, which we'll also talk about next, it is a thing where it's like, it's a chemical thing.

33:06It's not like you, your body conjures the correct chemicals and then

33:09Mark Fischbach:you smell it it is like i don't know yeah i can't tell if i if it's like the sensation of the smell or the smell because sometimes like you know your nose gets a tickle if you smell something like like the gasoline it's like it's right there it's almost like we remember words at the tip of your tongue it's like the gasoline's right there but i can't quite smell it i can rotate the gasoline in my head i can hear the sound of it glugging into the into the car i i can picture me pouring gas all over myself at the pump but i can't smell it now imagine that but all your other senses and then you're just like me i can't relate to no i can't relate can't imagine that couldn't be me all right well this one's pretty closely related but then so let's also talk about taste is it any different for taste for you guys can you conjure up a taste of a thing and have that like i think this would be like there's a vague outline of it because if i imagine sour like if i imagine biting into a lemon i'll start salivating like so clearly there is it and and my tongue will start to feel weird.

34:06Like if I think of that warhead video that we did, I'm like, I already got it. It's already building up. So there's something there. I can vaguely be like, I think I know what Turkey tastes like. I think I can kind of imagine that, that flavor. There's also texture to it, which is a hard thing to separate out. Yes. I'm with you on that one. Yeah. Texture. I can picture vividly. That's, that's no problem at all. The taste though is, is like vague, ethereal, but it's there, but it's less concrete.

34:33Mark Fischbach:Yeah. The other senses are coalescing and making it hard like i like biting into an apple i can feel it i can feel the juice i can almost taste or smell it but like it's all the others like the sound of the crunch like all of that is there but like the taste and the smell both are kind of eluding me again garlic i mentioned like the garlic mashed potatoes i can feel them going into my mouth like even like occasional lump in it where it wasn't fully mashed like all that's there and there is the sensation of garlic i can't tell if it's the taste the smell neither both it's too lumped in with the other ones and the texture is a big part of that biting into like a skittle versus a steak versus a bread roll there was a place called a grand finale in cincinnati that closed down and went to a handful of times in the past and they had these really great rolls like i loved their bread it's right there going into my mouth and tasting it's been gone for like five years but i just can't i stop right short of being able to enjoy it in my imagination it's like it's going to my mouth but gone this is a random tangent and i thought i did this really fascinating but the rolls i have only been to the grand finale once costco's in-house yeasted dinner rolls you have to buy them in like a huge fucking bag but those are close and they're insanely good i got them randomly this holiday season because we hosted a bunch of people tell me that name again like if you just go to costco and go to the bakery they just sell huge bags and i think they're just called dinner rolls it's just like the made at costco made in-house dinner rolls they're like yeasted dough they're fucking amazing we hosted a bunch of family over thanksgiving and christmas this year i swear every person who was here was where did you get these rolls did you make these no it's just huge fucking 10 pound bag of rolls from costco but they're really good anyway random thing and you have to buy a whole lot of them so it's kind of a like you can freeze them maybe or whatever but it's kind of a pain it's right there like the the ripping apart a little something in the center a little circle in the center i can see the butter melting on top i just want to taste it again uh you try the Costco ones.

36:29You'll have to eat a lot of them, but they're real good. There is the strange association that we've talked about in this podcast before, where it's like, if you can imagine yourself licking something and you know exactly what it would feel like to lick it, not so much the taste, but just the texture. I don't know why that is so strong because if the taste is not that strong, but pure texture is like, is that just tying into the whole body's ability to sense like touch?

36:55Mark Fischbach:Mark, you get another segue point. My brain did something horrible where I got hair, like licking hair sensations. I love it. No, yeah, that's the next one. That's called tactile imagery, and it is different from smelling and tasting. It is specifically the texture, and it's involved in eating because you can feel any part of you that has nerve endings. You could feel a tactile sensation if you lick something or you touch it with your hands or whatever. This is one where I think I actually am not a zero. of all the things that I can't, like you said, wait, it's like dramatic things. Like if I imagine licking a basketball or hair, I can almost taste the rubber.

37:37Mark Fischbach:It's right there with the basketball. Like I can feel this is the one where it's like, it grosses me out. This is why I'm sort of sensitive to textures and food. This is the one thing where it will gross me out, where it's like, if I imagine the texture of a thing, I really didn't like that I ate or that I had trouble. I can summon that a little bit and it can I can get that reaction where it's like queasy whatever you brought me to styrofoam just now I'm not happy about it yeah I'm really glad I don't hate styrofoam because I could totally probably summon the texture enough but I could kind of do it guys but it sounds like it's really vivid for you guys like it's crisp sharp texture is pretty strong it's pretty strong it's to the point where if I imagine all the textures that I really really don't like touching it just makes me physically uncomfortable like what you're I was saying, especially like the felt roof of an old car.

38:23And just like, I'm literally fidgeting with two little pieces of felt right here on my desk. Cause I think it's funny. Cause it's, it's fuzzy. What is wrong with you? What is wrong with you? Well, look, these are like, they're like little feet you put on furniture, right? They're just like, yeah, I know. I get it. I'm licking them right now. I know what they are. I'm not licking them. Wait, I don't like that. No, that's not good. Yeah.

38:47Mark Fischbach:See, see, I love the listening. perspective of some of what we said oh that tastes so much worse than the texture is what is that it tastes like glue markiplier licks feet live on distractible i did not do that that is not true slander slanderman there's nothing wrong with felt you weirdo psychopath who doesn't like felt not as bad as cotton or styrofoam but it's not great like felt and velvety textures yeah cotton balls are concerned i hate it last night i sliced my hand open with one of those like Reynolds wrap little serrated edge things. Like I can feel my thumb just running along the edge lightly and I can kind of feel the cut again.

39:24Mark Fischbach:And the cut part's not pleasant, but like I can, I can feel those textures. I can feel the texture of the actual aluminum foil or plastic wrap. Like texture to me comes very easily in my imagination. Can any of us imagine positive textures or is it only the shitty textures that we hate that we can? Oh, like ice cream. I can imagine the like creamy, delicious texture of ice cream. That's a good one, right? We can all agree. Yeah. I like shakes with chocolate chips in them sometimes, like a chocolate shake with hot fudge and like chocolate chips. I can feel the chocolate chips coming through the straw.

39:52Or like the first lick of like a sucker. Like you unwrap a Tootsie Pop and when it's dry and you're like, um.

39:59Mark Fischbach:The little edge, the little lumpy edge that you go and hit, yeah. And sometimes there's like chunks out of that or it's a whole different. Again, mashed potatoes or steak or apple, like all those textures are there. I think that's literally the only category where I feel like I'm not just a straight up zero. so you qualify as human i think if you can do that if you're all zeros across the board you're not a human but if you have any imagination in any of your senses then you can't well thank god i made it because i don't think this next one counts for me either i don't even know if this is a sense pro pro-propriation pro anyway yeah proprioception motor imagery movement imagery i've always thought this silly when there are things right where it's like i'll teach you how to golf now envision your swing and your swing and i'm like i just fucking wagging my arms around how is this going to help me actually golf is that do you guys if you're imagining you're doing something especially if it's a thing you know how to do do you feel like you have a good vivid imagery of whatever chopping an onion it's not 30 fps you know if that makes any sense like i'm not getting full frames in my imagination there's like missing sections but like i can see a swing but like it's not a smooth just like ah yes there it is there's pieces missing but yes this ties into something that i experiences in my childhood when i was going to sleep oftentimes i would imagine my whole bed was swinging and i could feel the like myself swinging i could feel like my center of gravity shifting even if like i'm not moving so i think that ties into that because it's like the the body position thing i stopped doing it for a while and it got like i lost the ability to do it for a little bit but then you know a few years ago when i was trying to um when i was doing my my polyphasic sleep bullshit i'll be like okay i gotta i gotta force myself to take this 45 minute nap i only have 45 minutes to sleep i gotta get to sleep so i would start to do that again i'll be like i wonder if i can still do that and it was really weak right it was weak it first, but the more I did it, the more I practiced it, the more I got better at it.

42:07So it's one of those weird things where I think actually you can get better at that one because then eventually that evolved into something else I talked to you guys about, which is where I was like trying to find these meditations. What I would do is I was like, I would imagine myself sitting in a chair. I could feel my arm lift and there was this wooden bowl of like wooden spheres, right? So I'd pick up a ball and I'd put it in another bowl and I'd be counting as I did. and I could feel the tactile, like less about the wood, but more about my position in my trying to separate my clearly laying down body and me moving an imaginary arm.

42:39And it was, it was the stronger that that connection got the quicker. I was able to just like slip into sleep. Weirdly enough. I don't know why. That's really funny. I never connected that to that. You were really imagining the motor. I use that. I specifically that scenario of like sitting at the table and moving a thing from a bowl to another bowl. I use that. That does help me like fall asleep and or sort of meditate when I'm trying to focus and like quiet everything in my mind. But I don't at all. It's not about the sensation of the motor skills part of it. It's entirely about like using it as enough of a focal point to where it captures my attention, but it's not enough of an activity that it requires any serious imagination or thought.

43:27Cause it's, you know, it's equivalent to like counting sheep or other things that people, you know, do and that come up examples of that. But part of it is that you feel the motor imagination and that's like what makes it calming. Yeah. And cause I think it's like, you're stepping out of your physical form into your mind, which is where you are when you sleep. So it's kind of health set, right? And it's something you can get better at. I do think that it weirdly is the more you practice that one, you can improve it. Maybe you can improve the other ones, but I don't know. That was actually kind of my follow-up question on this one too.

44:00You can get better at the imagining. Do you feel like if you were trying to learn something, if you were trying to learn how to chop an onion or how to cast a line with a fishing pole, do you feel like if once you've done it a little bit and you're imagining it, are you practicing that? And does that help you get better at the actual activity? If you're, does it translate back and forth or is it just that you can get better at imagining the sensations? There are scientific studies that actually have shown that this, that, that, um, shadow boxing improves boxers performance, that if you're doing martial arts, there's certain athletes that if they visualize the thing that they're trying to do, their performance does increase.

44:39Like the, the science study that I saw was set up in a way where it's like you had a control group of people that were actually practicing and you had a control group of people that weren't doing anything, no preparation. And you had the test group, which was they were only imagining doing the task. And so they had a control of nothing and a control of actual practice and where the imagination group was actually closer to the practice group, not to the level of the physical practice, but they were far away from the control do nothing group. They just showed up and they did it. They were still trained athletes to do the task, but it's like the certain metric that they were trying to improve did not get better or maybe they weren't as well okay i'd have to look at the study but this this does exist that's weird because boxing as soon as

45:20Mark Fischbach:you said boxing for whatever reason my i did a good job of like i almost fully zoned out to visualize was like a full daydream moment but i was like okay i'm in a ring it's pure darkness and like ronda rousey standing across trying to punch me in the face and i could see it and the swing went right left to the left of my head that was like oh i hear the like as she like that was close like i could hear that and feel like the almost breeze and it's like okay but And I was like, well, let me try to visualize more. Okay, now there's a crowd. There's camera flashes. I'm adding a bit more to it. Now there's more noise.

45:47Mark Fischbach:And like, I actually kept building and it went pretty well. That was more frames in my imagination as I was moving and dodging and whatever. I wasn't swinging back and her fists kind of become Acme Acre. Like the glove just kind of launched at me and she was still as far away. So it wasn't perfect, but like it was building into something more and more interesting. And there were more sensations like the crowd making noise and the whooshing while. Yeah. So I was able to build upon it there, which was cool. Trying to think about the senses. I'm sure I've done that. I've just never consciously thought about the process of building the scene in my mind.

46:19I think that to tie all that together, like what you're saying is since I've started doing these like movies and stuff, there's a big part of directing. I think that is like visualizing the shot, right? Getting better at imagining what that what that is. I don't think that my imaginations are any more vivid or clear, but there is a level of practice where it's like, I've seen more camera angles. I've seen more lens options. I've seen more positions where it can be. I know the difference between like a probe now. So I can apply those to my imagination. And at the very least I can hold it in my head longer.

46:53Cause my biggest problem is I can imagine things are a song, but I can't play it all the way through because I'll, it'll shunt to a different thought pretty quickly. So concentration, I think, and that kind of meditation of the focus in that space and in that state is the practice that you can do and the way that you can improve besides just experiencing new things. I think that the proprioception is one that you can actually tangibly get better at. I don't know why that would be, but I think because in my experience as a child, I did a lot more and then I fell out of it. I was worse at it and then I got better at it.

47:27Your out my ass conjecture would be it's because that's one you can immediately feel in real life like if you're trying to get better at that but it's with smell or it's with imagining objects that you're like seeing you might like you'd have to have it in front of you right if you were trying to practice if i'm trying to get better at picturing an apple and i have an apple and so you're like don't look at the apple look at the apple don't but when it's your body when it's a physical motion like you can you maybe not even doing it but the the pathways in your brain of like, and now I'm jumping now I'm moving in this way.

48:04Like it's a constant connection that you have. You don't need a thing to look at or a thing that you're smelling or hearing to like practice. You're constantly switching back and forth between like, I'm imagining what it might feel like. And now I'm, I'm getting the real sensation of like trying to figure fire these nerves in this way or whatever. Like it's, I imagine that has to do with it because almost Also, the other senses, it's like you're sensing a thing that's outside of you in some fashion. Maybe I can get better at it. It's interesting to me that smell and taste are definitely the weaker two of all the ones we've talked about.

48:37Which is funny because smell is supposed to be like the, oh, it's your olfactory is your strongest side to memory is your strongest thing. But I guess that doesn't mean that it's a thing you're good at imagining inherently in the same way. I've seen some kind of like MRI, functional MRI scans that show the pathways of like smell compared to a dog's like a smell for dogs ties almost everywhere into their brain like the visual centers or the the memory centers stuff like that whereas for humans it really doesn't go very far it doesn't tie into all the other parts of the brain whereas like vision does it bounces through the entire like you use your eyes are in the front the vision processors are in the back and it transverses through the entirety of it i think similarly with audio like there's there's much more brain activity in those senses than um smell i don't know about taste probably similar which is weird considering how much humans like food well yeah smell and taste are linked right so that would make sense that they would follow a similar path oh there was one more thing um for the proprietor session i wonder if this has to do with why people have a really interesting ability to kind of become the vehicle they're piloting because when you're driving you just kind of i don't know it's not like you become it but you you you get integrated in it where you subconsciously can feel the the the car's movement and you kind of like personality wise people have big trucks not me of course but people have big trucks are like i look how big i am you know is that what that's about wait is that a sensation that you both of you guys identify with where you feel like if you're in the driver's seat in some way you're like becoming the vehicle because i exclusively feel like i'm in the driver's seat and i'm piloting the thing and i have an accurate perception of my car because i know how big it is and how wide it is but not at all do i feel connected to it like you're describing it feels like i'm driving the thing and together we're a team and the car is always separate from me and it feels like a thing i'm using i wouldn't say specifically but i i can't remember where i was reading this is more just like other observations of other people for these like things but there also is that trance like state where you lose all perception and the car is still going in the right direction and not crashing and you have made exits.

50:48Mark Fischbach:Oh yeah. Where you like zone out and all of a sudden you're just five miles further. Specifically what you said that triggers it is like how connected people are to what their car is and how that makes them feel like the joke about, Oh, he must have a small penis. Cause he's got a huge truck or whatever. I've always felt like the car I have, or like I had a motorcycle in college. I always thought the motorcycle was cool as shit. And I knew that I looked like I was huge. Like I'm this big, tall, fat dude on this motorcycle. I looked like I'm a, like a clown on a tiny motorcycle i did not give a shit because the thing was cool the car the motorcycle is cool right now i'm really like my car like i'm i miss my subaru uh but the car i have currently is a really nice car i think it looks awesome i do not think it makes me look cool i think i look like a huge dweeb when i'm driving along singing the system of a down in my bmw but the car's cool as shit but like if people feel like their identity merges with it somehow like that makes a lot of sense because people get obsessed with like how their car makes them look or feel and it like becomes a part of their personality like jeep people become jeep people when they get a jeep never understood that but it's a whole it's a whole phenomenon they get their ducks gotta give a duck away you see another jeep put a duck on it that makes a lot of sense but i've never felt that in that way or anything i wouldn't say i feel it too strong I'm curious what the subreddit's gonna say about all this This is the whole point of this episode is I just want to put this out there And then I'm gonna read all the comments that the subreddit leaves Because I want to know what all these different people have to say about these things But that's really interesting I mean you can feel your car You get to know your car right so you can feel the bumps in the road You can tell when something's kind of off with the car Because you get used to the way it's supposed to feel But I've never felt like the car and I have become one symbiotic being or anything I can't feel like I've felt that merging Plus the internet tells me I still don't have a car So I wouldn't know that feeling anyway Yeah, someday you'll get one and then you'll be able to talk about this.

52:44Mark Fischbach:One day. I feel bad for you walking everywhere. All right. Don't mind it. I see how that happened. I see how... That's a point, buddy. Thanks, Bob. Hey, I didn't do it. And that's not fair to you. That was funny. See, now I can picture the scene from Pulp Fiction where he's holding the pocket watch and talking to little Bruce Willis. This episode is brought to you by State Farm. Listening to this podcast instead of doom scrolling? Smart move. Another smart move? Getting help from one of State Farm's 19 ,000 local agents when you choose to bundle home and auto. Bundling. Just another way to save with the personal price plan.

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53:34Well, this was fun. I love when we do episodes where we're just talking about a thing that applies exclusively to me. I did give you points, though.

53:40Mark Fischbach:I didn't think I felt like it applied more to us because we could visualize and experience more. No, no. It's all about Bob. I hope everyone finds it interesting, but I found it very interesting, which is all I care about. No particular order. Wade, you earned a segue point, but it's crossed out. You earned a mom point. Can't remember why. You earned a point for your impressions. You earned a point for bad voice. You earned a point for not being able to smell at all. You have medium taste. You have medium tactile. You can sort of imagine your motor stuff, and then you're walking everywhere, leaving you with a total of nine points.

54:17Mark, you earned a point for being so famous. You earned the real segue point. You earned the voices in your head point. You earned a reading comprehension point. You earned also no smell, medium taste, another segue point, and then a good tactile sense point. and then you were to point for vivid motor imagery which leaves you at a total wait what i have also nine wait a minute hang on let me count this again why is that so outrageous i should have been counting okay you both have nine points i don't know i just felt like i said a lot more stuff for mark yeah it seemed like it seemed like he had more things listed under the

54:57Mark Fischbach:point yeah man i feel like i'm being treated fairly here wait you just did not nearly as good as mark i can't believe you're tied i just felt like mark performed a lot better but actually it's tied great that we all feel that way congratulations you exceeded expectations isn't that what you want i don't feel as good about it as you think i should you should feel great you should be really proud of yourself buddy i think you just don't want to see an even number here i would love not to see an even number here how many wheel spins will there be

55:30ah look at that it's gonna be three again hey all right it all comes down to this who would have guessed that seriously though three three three two okay well there's four twos in a row but there's two threes and whatever yeah suspicious suspicious and not at all statistics i would next constitution we will have a suspicious be a trigger word for something

55:51Mark Fischbach:oh i got yelled at by someone on stream they were like you guys said unfair twice in this episode and no one noticed it and I was like oh well that's part of the rule we have to notice it that's part of the rules everybody if no one catches it you don't get mad I call unfair on the audience oh it's unfair that they keep forgetting how the rules work well I guess we have to get a meaningful head a meaningful coin toss before we have to decide what it means we're all looking for meaningful head I think that they uh uh they shouldn't be able to ever get mad if an unfair is not caught, and if we go heads down, it'll be they are allowed to get double mad.

56:35Alright. Well, I'm sure nothing bad will happen from this coin flip. Uh-oh. I got heads. No, wait. No, no, no, no, no. No, no, no. I got tails. I got lion ass. Oh, God. Wait, so that means... The audience is allowed to get double man oh yeah mark wins if we get all heads but we got all tail am i sure this is tails yeah because the lady is heads why don't you get a coin with actual heads and tails on it because this one has a lion and he has a tail and that's tails enough but it's not because i'm i never remember so if we miss an unfair now i guess we have to be punished for it good thing this is the last episode i think the audience gets to decide what the punishment should be so if we miss an unfair and the audience catches it the moderators need to make a thread on the subreddit and maybe the top comment will be wow let's hold on now let's not give up too much power has to be some discretion no if i've learned anything about the internet it's that you should never use the top comment for anything of value how about we let it'll be the top two comments or three and we get to veto like we have to pick which one but you know that way if there's two options three seems not that's too loose two would be that way they can't just make a joke top one yeah what's the top two

57:56Mark Fischbach:comments are the guys in the podcast are the guys doing episode completely naked like i don't want to do either of those because this is one one-off kind of thing maybe we could make three i don't know what if we each get a veto so we have three vetoes and we just keep going down or we do nothing and say status quo and say no the head the coins have spoken if we don't honor the coins none of this means anything next council distractible we're getting rid of the coin i don't think that's gonna i love the coin the coin is my favorite part of the whole thing i love the coin the coin's great we might need to change the word because apparently we say unfair a lot and then don't notice it but so we does that does that seem like a do we each get one veto like the vetoes are emergency escape hatches we're not supposed to just all veto to get but if there's three things that are like they have sex and wade kills bob and whatever like we can it's up to the audience to come up with serious punishments this is a this has a ripple effect so wait does it punish all of us since we all would have missed the unfair it would be an arbitrary new rule i think that we have to apply or it's a straight punishment or something else but it's every time we would miss it well as long as we don't look at the subreddit that's not real but they can't defend you if you don't look at it what i'm gonna add to the bonus point wheel is you get a point if you are the one who claimed unfair in the episode oh sweet awesome it's completely unbiased it just so happens that mark is the one who did that in this episode hey but we all have the chance to claim unfair whatever we so choose it's so weird hearing the word now every time you oh you said it unfair unfair get out of your system boys unfair unfair unfair unfair unfair unfair unfair unfair unfair unfair unfair unfair anyway we got three spins and i'm sure that The subreddit won't do anything that will make us regret this and inevitably have to stop following this procedure because they're going to ruin it because the internet's not allowed to have nice things.

59:49Makes you feel any better. I already regret it. I regret nothing. All right. Spin number one. Bobald? Current record holder for most points. Someone posted a spreadsheet of the points recently. Oh, it was posted like yesterday. Yeah, yeah. Wait a minute. Most points in a single episode? Current record holder is Bob. But whether or not you want to apply the host rules to that, second place would be me. Third place is Wade for most points total. At least I meddled, I guess. I'm going to say I don't get it. I'm going to give it to Mark. All right. Yes. Wade, you have 572. I have 649. Bob has 666 and a half.

1:00:31Mark Fischbach:All right. No more points for me. Leave it right there, everybody. I must be too generous with points. That must be why I'm so far behind. I give out a lot more points. You really are. I would say that you give out more points than Mark and I do, generally speaking. Mark is stingy. Mark will have episodes where it's like five to seven. Oh, yeah. Okay. You're right. You're right. Which isn't wrong. Mine are like 52 to 48. There's no established scale for that. That's just how we've all... Wade will give out like 30 points an episode. I used to give out way more than I do now. Earlier on in this book here, I got episodes where it's like, Mark has 36 and Wade has some other joke number i just have this whole bag of points i bought i guess i just felt like i should use them before they expire expired points that's that date's a lie you have to listen to that oh no oh oh interesting why hey click view stats real quick you've had some really bad wheel luck lately bob gotta be fucking kidding me with this uh six for sudden death that's that's pretty man sudden death has hit six times which makes it tied for third fourth all right okay that's so unlikely listeners are up seven to five of our viewers i have it scribbled on the back of my notebook it's not holy shit i just got a cramp in my hand yeah because we had two we had two add tens currently i have it written down that the winner's wheel is supposed to be at 28 88%.

1:01:56Mark, Wade, or one man show?

1:02:06No, no, no, no, no. Oh my God. Jesus God. I mean, I wasn't worried. I could do it. It's okay. Only a measly 2 % gets added. Yeah, what do we add? Is it 2 %? Isn't it 6? I thought it was 2%, which ended up being like 6 points. I thought it was 2%, because it used to hit a lot more. And then now we've gone out of our way to make sure it never hits. All right. I'm going to say 2 % and I've documented March 3rd, 2026, 30%. Wade wins and nothing else needs to happen. And that's the end. And let's stop threatening me with one man shows. Congratulations, Wade. Mark, would you like to give your loser speech?

1:02:42Listen, the wheel speaks the truth, but you know who speaks harder truth? The coin. So I know it was my fault for calling this on you guys out there. But hey, remember who I am. If you don't remember, check the headlines. They always tell the truth about him.

1:02:59Mark Fischbach:Yeah, yeah, yeah. Remember me? Hello, everybody. Hello, everybody. Thanks, Mark. Wade, winner's speech. Thanks. I'm glad that the coins and the wheels generally kind of give me a bit of a break. Because, man, it's tough to get points. Even whenever I do get the right amount of points to tie or win, they're surprised. My co-hosts are surprised. Like, I didn't think Wade was even in this episode. I'm surprised he tied with Mark. But the sad realization is that even whenever I do win, I win with the same amount of points as somebody else. I'm never going to catch up. I will always be behind. But maybe we'll get surprise least point golf rules added to the wheel someday.

1:03:34Mark Fischbach:So I'll have another chance. You actually won this episode with less points than Mark, to be clear. The score was 10 to 9 when it was declared a tie and we entered sudden death. I feel even worse about my victory. You won from last place. It's a miracle. Great. Congratulations. Well, that's Wade's winner speech. I'm going to end it there. Make sure you follow the podcast and then you'll know when new episodes. Spend some extra ones. You might have missed them. If you're not following the show, you'll never know. Make sure you follow Mark and Mark Plyer. Wade at LordMinion777 or Minion777. I am MySkerm on the internet.

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