Apple SUES OpenAI For Stealing Their Secrets — Then This Happened

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2:41goes to OpenAI so

2:46it's co-founded with Johnny Ive that's already interesting to say the least, but they emailed out supplier Intel. This is going to be one of the biggest issues in Silicon Valley, I think, and his lawsuit is going to be major and going back to picking enemies. Sam Altman has done a terrible job of understanding that relationships matter and you pick two of the most powerful people to have as your enemies before you IPO in Apple and in Elon Musk um I've told everyone else be careful what data you put on chat GPT put yes in chat if you remember me telling you because I was getting some of these rumblings about them taking data from creators and business owners but at this scale is insane and it goes back to the character of the founder like there's a lot of things in that hit piece that you can say were salacious but if you go read that book all of those things are not a lie also too for microsoft they're getting some of the blowback and that's why they're doing their partnership now with anthropic and you can make the argument they should have just bought one of these companies opposed to just leaning open ai um apple even though it hit an all-time high today i was looking And I'm like, Apple probably would have been at 700 if they would have got this AI race.

4:12Correct. But picking the right partner is everything. And whatever the founder character issues are, they're going to bleed into the company. So just to let you know really quick, and they're giving Oracle some issues as well. In the last 72 hours, they had a safety quit. They were sued by the New York Times. Top executive departs. They shut down their browser tool after nine months. They're sued for trade theft by Apple. and then they're caught selling product to China against sanctions. I keep telling you there's a lot of tech companies in the United States of America that are being spies, allegedly, for China or highest bidder.

4:51That felt like a perfect segue because this is an interesting time. I'm going to read a quote here from kind of a person who is in that alleged spy mode. The gentleman's name is Cheng Liu. He was allegedly utilized undiscovered authentication bug on an unreturned Apple laptop to access shared network folders. He allegedly downloaded dozens of highly confidential hardware files, including technical specifications for unreleased products and proprietary circuit boards, leaving messages mocking Apple about what, look what I found. So here's the crazy part. This suit happens at an interesting time, right?

5:37We know that open AI, you see where I'm going. Timing, yep. Timing is everything. Time is important. So we know open AI is supposed to, what was supposed to IPO some way here in the next few weeks. That has been pushed back. Interesting timing. John Ive also has left Apple to join forces over at OpenAI. A huge thing, and we covered it here. But Apple suing them about trade secrets tells me a few things. It tells me they know something or they've seen something that they want to get ahead of. Because IP is in question. I want everybody to do it. This is the homework assignment tonight. Ian, this is our homework assignment I'm giving out on your behalf.

6:22I want everybody to search Project Sweet Pea, OpenAI Project Sweet Pea. Why is that important? Because second half of 2026, OpenAI is going to not only release more software, they're going to release their, quote unquote, or alleged hardware product. What is it? There's a few. There's a smart glass that allegedly is on its way, a digital voice recorder, and a wearable pin. Right? Now we're starting to look at how we're going to use AI going forward in the future. Will it look like this? Right? Or will it look like a small device that can just be attached to you? If OpenAI can get ahead of that and be first to market with that, the innovation is going to be there.

7:08How many users will you have? I think Apple knows that this is coming. And because they know it's coming, let's get this out there. Let's get off the internet and let's put this suit out there. Now, this is all just a complaint, right? There still has to be stuff that has to be proven. This isn't really in terms of - It's too many documents. And not to cut you off, if you're going to steal data from one of the largest international companies, how about you not touch your friends about it? Or mock the people that you took it from, allegedly. Yes, allegedly. The timing of it, the idea of what is coming down the pipeline, I think there's a lot more to the story and we're going to see a lot more.

7:51But again, that talks to leadership and also talks about poaching from talent, right? The fact that John I left tells you that, okay, Apple from an innovation standpoint may be lacking, but OpenAI may be where the future is. Now, John I brought his company over in terms of innovation. He brought his company over to OpenAI. We should be looking for a product within the next three months, a hardware product, not just a software one, not an update, a hardware product from OpenAI in the next, I would say, three months. And OpenAI took, they're saying the number is 400. I talked to my friend at Apple.

8:27There's more like 550 employees that got poached. And why are y 'all putting out that mid-flip phone that Samsung had 22 years ago? The other part is, Rashad, you talk a lot about managing relationships. The way that Johnny, I've exited, when they did that commercial together i said it's a war it's a war time so much so that even elon to get revenge he turned if you go look read this prospectus spacex is an ai company and he did that solely to eat market share from sam altman now i've looked very soon for spacex and apple to have a partnership the thing that you don't factor up when you guys want to have war and have beef is what if these teams get together and start to wage war against you?

9:17It's tough. I think it won't just be Apple that has a SpaceX partnership. I see that's the next topic, but I think in terms of where we're headed for compute and what it looks like here and what it looks like in the overall economy, I know the space economy, I think that he's going to create a monopoly where they're all going to need him. I think that's what we're having. Ernest, what's up? Look, when you think about discovering small brands, what star pops in your mind? Well, it should be Walmart. Seriously, Walmart has thousands of small brands, and they're all in one place. Just go online or in-store, discover, and shop.

9:54It could not be easier. Every one of these brands has a real story and real people behind it. They're true American success stories, and you can find them all at Walmart. Discover thousands of small brands at walmart.com today. Ernest, what's up? Look, building wealth isn't just about making money. It's about knowing where your money is working for you. That's why we partnered with Empower. Empower is all about helping you invest well so you can go out and live a little. Their free Empower personal dashboard gives you a complete view of your financial life in one place. Track your net worth, monitor your budget, analyze your investments, set retirement goals, and more.

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