G Perico on Going Broke, Owning 80% of His Music, Nipsey Hussle & Why Independence Is the Only Way

8 May 2025 · 1 h 2 min

Ask about this episode

Ask anything about it. ChatGPT or Claude reads this page and answers with the times it was said.

Connect VO and ask about every podcast you hear, including the moments you saved. Add to ChatGPT · Add to Claude

In short

Earn Your Leisure Podcast Episode Notes

Episode Title

G Perico on Going Broke, Owning 80% of His Music, Nipsey Hussle & Why Independence Is the Only Way

Episode Overview In this episode of the Earn Your Leisure podcast, G Perico shares his insights on the music industry, the significance of independence in artistic and financial success, and the lessons learned from his experiences in the streets and the business. The discussion touches on his strategies for maintaining ownership of his work, the importance of building a supportive team, and how he draws inspiration from artists like Nipsey Hussle.

Key Themes

  1. Independence in Music
  2. Ownership: G Perico emphasizes the importance of owning at least 80% of his music profits to build real wealth.
  3. Releasing Content: He believes in flooding the market with content to establish value, contrasting with the traditional "less is more" approach in the music industry.
  4. Financial Freedom: Independence allows him to decide when and how to release projects without needing approval from a label.
  1. Personal and Financial Struggles
  2. Going Broke: G reflects on the real costs of street life, admitting to past financial mismanagement and the impact it had on his life.
  3. Life Lessons: After experiencing financial hardship, he learned to reinvest in himself and avoid falling back into old habits.
  1. Influence of Nipsey Hussle
  2. G shares how Nipsey Hussle's legacy has shaped his views on entrepreneurship and community impact.
  3. Local Impact: Nipsey's approach to business and community upliftment serves as a model for G's own endeavors.
  1. Building a Team
  2. Collaboration: G stresses the importance of having a reliable team that can execute his vision effectively.
  3. Navigating Relationships: He discusses the complexities of balancing street affiliations with business aspirations.

Key Takeaways

  • Content is King: Regularly producing music helps build an artist's market value, especially in a competitive landscape.
  • Financial Literacy: G emphasizes the importance of understanding financial principles to ensure long-term wealth.
  • Community Focus: By investing in local initiatives (like his boxing gym), G aims to positively influence the youth and divert them from negative paths.
  • Adaptability: As the music industry evolves, adapting marketing strategies and approaches to performance is crucial for success.

Episode Highlights

  • Market Strategy: G Perico discusses how he uses analytics to determine which markets to target for tours and performances.
  • Mental Health Awareness: He acknowledges the pressures of navigating two worlds and the importance of checking in with himself.
  • Expansion Plans: Talks about the potential for his brand, Blue T-Shirt, to expand beyond clothing into a full lifestyle brand, including household items.

Conclusion This episode of Earn Your Leisure offers a candid view of G Perico's journey from the streets to the music industry, emphasizing independence, financial savvy, and the importance of community engagement. His story serves as an inspiration for artists and entrepreneurs looking to carve their own path while navigating the complexities of success and legacy.

Resources Mentioned

  • PNC Bank: A sponsor of the episode, emphasizing financial planning.
  • Square: A tool for managing business payments and operations.
  • Nipsey Hussle: His influence and teachings as a significant part of G's journey.

Social Media & Interaction

  • Follow G Perico on social media platforms for updates and insights into his projects and lifestyle.
  • Engage with the Earn Your Leisure community for discussions on financial literacy and entrepreneurship.

This episode serves as a valuable resource for anyone interested in understanding the dynamics of the music industry and the importance of independence and community.

Written by AI. May contain mistakes. Listen to the episode to check what was said.

Hear the part that matters, and keep it.Open this episode in VO. Double tap your headphones to save a moment as you listen.
Get VO free

Transcript

Automatic transcript. May contain errors.

0:00This is an iHeart Podcast. Guaranteed human. Run a business and not thinking about podcasting? Think again. More Americans listen to podcasts than ad-supported streaming music from Spotify and Pandora. And as the number one podcaster, iHeart's twice as large as the next two combined. Learn how podcasting can help your business. Call 844-844-iHeart. Hey, it's Joel. And Matt. From HowToMoney. If your New Year's resolution is to finally get your finances in shape, we've got your back. Prices, they're still high. And the economy is all over the place. But 2026 is the year for you to get intentional and make real progress.

0:35That's right. Each week we break down what's happening with your money, the most important issues to focus on, and the small moves that make a big difference. Kick off the year with confidence. Listen to How to Money on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. What if mind control is real? If you could control the behavior of anybody around you, what kind of life would you have? Can you hypnotically persuade someone to buy a car? When you look at your car, you're going to become overwhelmed with such good feelings. Can you hypnotize someone into sleeping with you?

1:05I gave her some suggestions to be sexually aroused. Can you get someone to join your cult? NLP was used on me to access my subconscious. Mind Games, a new podcast exploring NLP, a.k.a. neurolinguistic programming. Is it a self-help miracle, a shady hypnosis scam, or both? Listen to Mind Games on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

1:54our merch partners square makes it easy for them to take payments manage inventory and run their business with confidence all from one simple system if you're a business owner or even just thinking about launching something soon square is hands down one of the best tools out there to help you start run and grow it's not just about payments it's about giving you time back so you can focus on what matters most ready to see how square can transform your business visit square.com backslash go backslash EYL to learn more. That's square.com backslash go backslash EYL. Don't wait, don't hesitate. Let Square handle the back end so you can keep pushing your vision forward.

2:40This episode is brought to you by PNC Bank. A lot of people think podcasts about work are boring, and sure, they definitely can be. But understanding a professional's routine shows us how they achieve their success little by little, day after day. It's like banking with PNC Bank. It might seem boring to save, plan, and make calculated decisions with your bank, but keeping your money boring is what helps you live a more happily fulfilled life. PNC Bank, brilliantly boring since 1865. Brilliantly boring since 1865 is a service mark of the PNC Financial Service Group, Inc. PNC Bank, National Association, member FDIC.

3:22All right. EYL, we back. What up? We back home. Yeah. In New York. Shout out to WTH Studios. TF. TF. WTF Studios. What the hell? Home away from home when we home. Shout out to them. Yeah. So we got a West Sider. Yes, sir. It's always good to do these West Side mashups. Yeah. We've done a variety of different All Money In, the whole entire crew. Yep. We just did J-Stone. Yes. He was the only one that wasn't part. Did you see the All Money In interview? Yeah, hell yeah. I done watched all the interviews. What'd you think about it? That was dope. That was dope. And them my guys, you know what I'm saying, they like one of the first people to inspire me, what they was doing.

4:04Because it was like we all coming out of South Central. These niggas that I see in traffic stop and holla at, but they was doing their thing, though, in the world. You know what I mean? So I got to see it and feel it, be around it. So, yeah, all money in is definitely like a big inspo for me to this day. That's a fact. We had Blast on. We had Blast. That's our guy. Blast, my guy. My brother Sticks, of course. Sticks. Just got FaceTime with Sticks. Yeah, yeah. These all good guys right here. We tapped into the right people. Yeah. So, G Perico, how is it going, my brother? How you doing? I'm doing great, man.

4:39It's going great. You know, the opportunity is endless. I can see it. I can feel it. You know what I mean? So, you know, we're just making it happen. Executing. That's it. So, where's the name come from? So the name came from, like it meant some time now. Originally, I never used to say, but like it just came from hustling. You know what I mean? And like - I assumed, but - Yeah. You never know. And then around the time when I got coined that, because they called me G Slim, BG, or Skrilla. Like I got like three different names in the hood. You know what I mean? Like my friends call me Skrilla. If you hear somebody call me Skrilla, that's one of my friends.

5:16If you hear somebody call me G Slim, they knew me way back in the day gang banging. BG is just what it turned into. But just hustling around the time, Lil Wayne, and that G Perico is what I'm known to have. So I'm coming through the spots, you know what I'm saying, doing my thing, and it was a joke. You know what I mean? And I'm like, nigga, that's my name. So I ran with it. You know what I mean? But it was like, it was a joke. They was calling me G Perico. G Perico as a joke. Because it always came through with the sack. You know what I'm saying? Ain't funny no more. Yeah. So it was like El Jefe.

5:57Like, you was like, they was like, oh, this is like, no. This is the duo. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. So here we are. So let's talk about, let's start with the music. You put out three projects this year? So far, yeah. So far you got another project. Yeah, yeah, I got another one. So, all right, why are you putting out so much music? Most people take the approach where less is more. When they put out one project every two years, one project every, you're putting out, you don't feel like that's saturating the market? No, definitely not. Because, you know, with that type of approach, it comes with bigger budgets, right?

6:34And that's one thing I didn't have. I didn't have a big budget to$3 million to spend on one project and blow it out. You know what I mean? And then also, I got so many thoughts and I done lived so much life and I could just explain a feeling and a thing to the T so well. It's like, why not? And then another thing outside of that is naturally the streaming and the leverage and all that. So I stack the projects to use leverage as my value. So now I'm worth a few million because of all of this music you know what i'm saying as opposed to me doing one project and then you know running around complaining i ain't nobody fucking with it so that's your evaluation yeah yeah i'm not into complaining i'm into making it happen and figuring it out so that was pretty much the best route for me dealing with you know the uh the opportunities that i had you know i'm saying so i got a i got a laptop i got an interface i got a mic i got producers let's get busy let's build this value up.

7:38And then the most important reason why I do it is like all my favorite artists that I fell in love with dropped a lot of music, whether it was mixtapes before their album, Wayne, Jeezy, Game, Wiz, Spitta, you know what I'm saying? All these people that I love and brung me into their lifestyle and I took pieces of their shit and live with it, you know what I mean? So my whole thing is like at the end of the day influenced. So I know that with my music, if it don't happen while I'm here and alive, it's going to happen when I'm gone. I'm going to influence the entire generation. You know what I'm saying?

8:13And I'm creating a whole new lifestyle, a subculture within the culture. You know what I mean? Yeah, 500 million streams. That's a lot. You're building that valuation up. Talk about the process of doing it independent. Like, you spoke about Wayne, right? And you spoke about the influence that the All Money In team. That's an interesting combo, right? Because we watched these guys grow up and we watched Nip do it from an independent standpoint. Yeah. And we watched Wayne put out the product. So it feels like there's a merger of both those influences in your life. What about the independent route that you've taken?

8:45So the independent route, I was signed to a label before. So I started off independent with the same mind frame and just understanding how a label operates. All right, I need a digital team. I need PR. I need certain things. You know what I'm saying? So when I signed, I already had my – I didn't even realize I had a label of my own. You know what I'm saying? Because when I signed, it was the same thing. I was going to hire them. Yeah, it's the same shit. The only thing that changed was my output. But now I got to go explain why I'm necessary and what I mean to the culture. You know, it's different when you're walking in an office and people not in the streets.

9:26They not feeling the culture. They on the computer. You know what I mean? So it's different. and that was a struggle, but like just being independent, I got the freedom to decide I want to put out a project. I want to drop some clothes with it and do 10, 15 shows with it. You know what I mean? And spread my message and, you know, impact and have all these little small victories that lead up to the big one. You know what I'm saying? So like independent for me is the best route. And it's like I always grew up having like a problem with authority. You know what I'm saying? That was like the, you know, the nigga in me, the street nigga in me.

10:04You know what I'm saying? Yeah, yeah, yeah. And, you know, when you sign, like, just having an answer to somebody, like, and you supposed to be a boss, you really turn into a worker, like, to an extent. You know what I'm saying? Depending on how hot you come in. You know what I'm saying? And I didn't come in super hot. So, you know, it was just a struggle. So, you know, the independent is the route for me. Like, I could wake up and do whatever the fuck I feel like. And then I'm living like a fucking platinum artist. Like, you know what I mean? And, like, my streams accumulate to a few million.

10:38So, you know what I mean? So, you know. Now, you brought up a good point as far as having to ask permission. That's something I don't think people fully understand. Like, there's any hierarchy. Like, if you got to ask, you want this single to get put out, and they got to approve it, and they got to do that. And that's something that, yeah, is mentally draining. Right. It's frustrating. As opposed to just having the independence of just being able to do whatever you want to do. I want to put this out on Friday. I'll put it out on Friday. If I want to put this single out, if I want to put this artwork out, I don't have to get approval from the label and different things of that nature.

11:14That's actually extremely important for people to fully understand that. Yeah. Because it's like a lot of songs is like, you know, they may be something that live for a long time, but a lot of them like are like best for them to come out in that time where you're feeling it. You know what I mean? As an artist, you know what I mean? Now, like the business and the artistry, it don't always blend well. You know what I mean? Well, let me ask you this. What challenges do you face being independent? Because it's like you got to get your music out there. You got to market it. You got to get the DJs to play it.

11:44so like you know being on the ground and doing everything for yourself what do you have to do that you know you probably wouldn't have to do on a major or do you have to do it all on a major you know i mean because you got to develop some type of traction in order for them to open up your budget they got to see some numbers moving in order for them to really put the machine behind you or you got to be a darling in the building you know i'm saying so it's like you know everything that I got to do would be something that I would normally have to do on a major to get, you know, the traction going.

12:18But the great part about it all is like, shit, it's all mine at the end of the day. I own it. You know what I mean? So, you know, that's it. It's like it's like real estate. Like when I sat down with a financial advisor and they was telling me how they've been advising people to buy content, that's when I realized how even more valuable what I'm doing is whether it's visual content music whatever it is you know i'm saying it's it's like it's it's wealth at the end of the day it's building wealth yeah you're building wealth but at the same time you're building brand right sure because i mean you just said it right i'm living like a platinum rapper so most people assume that because somebody went platinum they made this amount of money because of their records meanwhile that's probably in the hall they know because there's a machine behind them there's advances that go into that there's debt that's accumulated because of that whereas when you're building a brand whether it's from like you have other investments maybe it's the t-shirts like yeah we'll talk about the real estate in a little bit all that or majority that is coming to you or is it all that going to you um yeah majority majority 80 coming to me and it's like the recouping process is like fucked up so it's like when you got a 85 15 like you're recouping out of your 15 type shit you know i'm saying so that's how niggas stand you spend a million and make a million, you only made$150 ,000.

13:40You know what I'm saying? Simple math. So you said somebody, an advisor told you that he's advising people to invest in content? Yeah, content. Can you explain that? Like content, like catalog, people that do YouTube, they buying that out. YouTube channels, Instagram pages. Yeah, short film, all that. You know what I mean? And then when it's been this wave of people selling their catalog. You know what I mean? Like, people came and offered me a few million for my catalog earlier this year. Already? Already? Yeah. And I'm like, nigga, what I'm going to do with that? You know what I'm saying? Like, a couple minutes and the way that I spend, like, and then after I settle this, like, I don't have that value in myself anymore, so I got to create, which is like, it just all depends on how you look at it and how you play it.

14:30You know what I mean? So it could be a good thing. It could be a bad thing. Well, you bring up a good point because everybody tells about people selling their music catalogs. But remember that kid that sold his Instagram page for$85 million? Dawon? Yeah, yeah. Well, they said he did. It was a whole profile. Millions of dollars. It wasn't just one Instagram page. He had built up, like, I think 15 to 20 pages. Like over 50 million followers. Yeah. But you could, like, Shade Room right now, they could probably sell their whole portfolio for, like,$100 million. Yeah. Yeah, the valuation is probably crazy on that.

15:02Because look at the influence that you have by having that many followers every single day. You know what I'm saying? That's how labels are actually marketing music. Through academics. When you just see this random artist, this drill artist that you've never heard of before, just how you feel about this? That's not done by accident. Play it while you're streaming. Yeah, yeah, yeah. The way that content is being viewed is different. The way it's being consumed is different. So you got to change from the old form, right? People don't watch TV. people aren't listening to radio they're on their phones wherever the content is being made to have the type of margins that you want you gotta make sure that there's not large overhead which if I'm sitting in my living room with a camera not much overhead so if I can get all that content and push it out with millions of people watching it's a better business decision you said something, this is interesting you just said the way I'm spending but you also said you spoke to a financial planner so So this tells me that there's somebody inside of you that's like, you know what?

16:03I have to have this financial discipline. Yeah. But I got to call somebody just to make sure I'm happy. What's that trajectory like for you? What is that duality like for you? So it's just like experience, right? So like when I first came in, I made some money. And then I got me a big ass house, a gang of cars. And then I lost all that shit and was broke. The house and the cars. Yeah, all, everything. Damn. And I had, like, a few pair. I didn't even have nowhere to keep all the clothes. Like, I had rooms and shoes and shit. I just gave everything away and started over. And I'm like, I never want to be in this space again.

16:38How did that happen? Just spending, partying, believing in the system. Spending more money than you was making. Yeah, for sure. And believing more in the system than myself. You know what I mean? Believing that, like, some fairy was going to come down. Like, I made half a million, I can make another half a million. Exactly, and not doing the work. So, you know, I just got caught up in the fun, and then it was like I spent a lot of time in and out of jail. So that was probably like my honeymooning stage, you know what I'm saying? Lived it up, enjoyed it, and then I'm like, I stopped drinking and everything.

17:14I ain't drunk in like four years. Coming up on four years, but... Congrats. Yeah, it was just experience, and then I was like, Like, all right, I got to do all this work, rebuild the brand, start creating this momentum again. And it's like, I don't want to do all of this work and then end up in the same place. Like, it's like, where I'm going to go after where? I can't go back to the hood. These niggas are going to kill me. If I'm broke and I come back. You know what I'm saying? Because, you know. You don't want to do that. You don't want to leave, then come back. Exactly. Hey, guys, didn't work out.

17:48Right. Niggas is naturally upset. Like, it may be somebody that I'm rolling, doing my thing, and they somewhere, I don't see them. Now they mad about that. It just be little silly shit like that. So it's like I know that I don't want to be in a losing position. So I got to set myself up. And the way I hustle now is, like, not for right now because it's like all the work that I've been doing the last couple years got me living right now. So I'm in a position to where I could hustle for the next few years and shit. Did going to jail that last time change it for you? Hell yeah. Like, that was an eye-opener because, like, before that, I didn't give a fuck about nothing.

18:29Like, fuck it. It is what it is. Like, I'm in the life. That's what I'm doing. I know how to get money. I know how to do this. Like, you know what I mean? I'm a gangster, basically. And, like, my first time in the joint, I was catching cases in there. And then when I went back, I had caught a cell phone, the little write-up and shit. They added 90 days, something like that, four months, something like that. But I'm like, I'm looking around, and I'm like, I was on a yard that was sweet, and then I end up on a yard where everybody got life and nobody's going home. You know what I mean? And then my daughter was freshly born, her mama in jail.

19:11My daughter was born in Chowchella State Prison. You know what I'm saying? So it's like, damn, I can't be. And then just my granny died. It's like, damn, I ain't got nobody. You know what I'm saying? So just all that in my mind, you know what I mean? It was like I got to get something together. And then when I got it together, I was in party mode. So, you know, luckily I still got an opportunity and still feel fresh and still energetic. And, like, it's not over. Because you know how this shit is. Like, you know, once people get a little bit of run, And, like, the first thing the people do in the offices everywhere is, done, we've fucked this.

19:50We don't know what's next. You know what I'm saying? So, you know, blessed with the opportunity to still be here and a lot of good relationships. So I got to set it up right. You know what I mean? So you're talking about you do invest in real estate at least. Yeah. Because you own a building. Yeah. Right? With our guy Dave Gross. Shout out to Dave. Shout out to Dave. Talk about that. How did your relationship with Dave Gross come about? and how did you get into buying a building? So with Dave, his little brother, Sean Mack, rest in peace. Rest in peace. From Inglewood, right? Yeah, from NHP. Pi Row.

20:25Yeah, that's my boy. Sean Mack was like a real good partner of mine. And we had just met a couple years before he died. You know what I'm saying? But we hit it off. And he was coming through every day. We making music. And he was telling me, yeah, I got a brother, man. he a square though, man. I remember he came through in a suit. And I'm like, damn nigga, what you got this suit on for? And he like, shit, I've been working for my brother. And I'm like, yeah. And then I seen who Dave Gross was, but I didn't know that was his brother. You know what I mean? And like we like kind of connected through Sean Mack passing.

21:06You know what I'm saying? Like through tragedy basically. and we also got the building through tragedy, which is crazy, because the owner passed away, you know what I mean? And the opportunity was there, and shit, I had the money, so we did it. So you just hit him, like, I know you know about real estate. So it kind of went like this, like, I was chilling with D. Schmoak. D. Schmoak, one of our partners, too. And I met him at the boxing gym. I didn't even know he sang or anything like that. I just knew he was a boxer and he be fighting. And we was doing a song. And I'm like, bro, I would love to own that building, bro.

21:48That's always been a dream of mine. I don't care if I make money or anything. I just want to have it. And he like, me too. And then a week later, Miss Larkin died. You know what I mean? So Smoke hit Dave. And Dave hit me. He like, wait, this Perico hood. You know what I'm saying? So I didn't know Smoke hit Dave. Dave hit me. What's up? What you want to do? Give me such and such. I'm like, all right, let's do it. You know what I mean? So that's pretty much how that came together. And, you know, we just building it out. So what's in the building? So it's like the oldest boxing gym still standing in Los Angeles, Broadway boxing.

22:28My original store was there. My original studio was there, which I hadn't been to in, like, years. You know what I mean? but it's just like a lot of history right there. Commercial, commercial. Yeah, it's a commercial building. I got my first tattoos there. It used to be a tattoo shop when I was like 13. I'm in shock right there. It's just like a gang of history where I grew up right there. It's your neighborhood. Yeah, being able to own it is dope. So the blue T-shirt brand, that's where it starts? Yeah, blue T-shirt. I came up with the idea in that building. So I mean. I developed it right there.

23:05imagine that right like i wonder what that's like for you right like you said there's these game experiences you said something probably like in jest like i want to own this one day to now being an owner in it how involved in it are you now knowing that this was like almost like a dream or it came into fruition yeah like i'm i'm um i'm super hands-on you know it's a lot going on right now so like the last month or so i've been all the way tuned in and getting uh getting the gym spruced up a little bit so we could do a re-grand opening and get that back going for the community and start my youth boxing league and everything.

23:43So we've been tuned in, putting the team together and everything, me and Smoke. So, you know, that's going to be big for me. Like, even if I don't even care if I make a dollar off of that, because it's like, it's a passion thing for me. And that's in your neighborhood, right? Yeah. And that's, where's the area at again? It's South Central? South Central, yeah. On the east side. Yeah, basically the east side of South Central. It's where the east side start. So it's like some people could say west, some people would say majority, 99 % of the city call it the east side. Okay. But the east side start a block after the building.

24:18So that's interesting. He was like, my brother, he's square though. I'm sure he's going to love to hear that. No, but it's interesting to even, like, you know, I feel like,

24:32language is very important. Yeah. Right? And I feel like a lot of times people, well, it's starting to change now, but for a long period of time, like people were discouraged to do more positive things because it was looked at as lame. Yeah, for sure. But in raw reality, that's what you actually should be doing, right? That's the pathway forward. That's where the life at. How are you able to, like, kind of change that mindset within yourself to realize like, nah, real estate, this is where it's at. Like, you know, glorifying, everybody starts off glorifying what they see, streets and different things.

25:08And you realize that that's nothing to really glorify because there's no real win in this situation, right? So when did that mindset change from you? I mean, it changed when I was sitting in jail, bro, because it was like, I just kind of like woke up one day. I was talking to my celly. He had life without. and I think I was like 22 or something at the time and he was 22 when he got life and he was like damn near 60 and he looked young as fuck I wouldn't have thought he was 60 but and then my homie was in the building he got life for something that he didn't do so I'm like damn the life really don't bring nothing to you but like just heartache and pain like you get them them highs them quick highs, you know what I'm saying?

25:52It's like a crack high. Like you on for a second, then it's over. And you fighting these niggas and going through this. And I'm just like, it just really wasn't no life to the end of it. And to this day, it's still one of my biggest struggles though, honestly. Like I'm going to keep it all the way real because I was like my first love and my family and my thing. Like, you know what I'm saying? I ain't really had no family like that. So it was the hood. So that's one of my biggest struggles. But at the end of the day, the question and always come to like, damn, what's the, like, what you get out of this?

Read the full transcript

26:26Like, what's the point? Like, to go sit in jail for life or to get killed and don't have nothing and have niggas having a fucking car wash for you and like, you know what I mean? And it's like, it just really ain't make no sense. That's like the fish fry. One of my favorite rappers of all time was AZ. He had a dope line where he was like, there's more to gain than just street nigga fame. Them same thoughts I fought like Sugar Shane. And I feel like it's like quicksand, like, because it's alluring. Like you said, like, you know, to go and to have hood fame and to be able to be the man in your block.

27:00And everybody, you know, recognizes you and it plays to your ego. Yeah, definitely. And it's something that it actually is appealing. Yeah, yeah. But it's like you got to kind of fight that because it's like if you stay there too long, like quicksand, you don't realize that you're sinking. That's the thing about quicksand. You don't really realize that you're sinking. You think you're just standing there before you know it. You're like six feet deep. Yeah. So that's an interesting dynamic that you said you're even still fighting that to this day because a lot of people can't understand it, but I can understand that aspect of it where it's like you can't really get that feeling anywhere else.

27:33Right. But you know that ultimately it's not going to lead you anywhere. Right. It's definitely ego-driven. And I kind of like compare it to like somebody that smoked crack. Like they know it ain't good for them. They try to quit, but it's like they back on it. Like, it's the same shit with the streets, bro. And the same thing with hustling. You know, like, I kind of battle with doing nigga shit all the time. You know what I mean? But at the end of this day, it's like... Just keep it occasional. Yeah, it's no... Occasional. Occasional. Yeah. Keep it occasional and not, like, basically not even real.

28:12Like, for real, because, bro, it's nothing at the end of it, bro. Yeah. You know? Every nigga that I know that made it to old age as a street guy, like they dealing with so much mentally. And then it's like even the ones that's not like still made it out with they since, it's like, all right, you do this shit, you fuck around and be rich in the streets and all this, and then it's over. And then you got to start all over at the beginning of the work world doing some shit that a nigga that's 18 is doing. It's your supervisor. Right. And then you already got this nigga ego. I know that shit, it eats you up.

28:49And it's like, before I get to that point, I need to shift. You know what I'm saying? So knowing that, I wonder, like you said, you have the boxing gym, and that speaks to youth, right? Giving back to youth. Knowing where you're at now, having some maturation, having some occasional tendencies, is the vision now somewhat make sure that the youngins behind me have a different alternative? if they can see something different, right? I know that you coach in summer leagues and doing the boxing gym. So how much of an impact does that have you, the youngest coming up? I mean, that's, like, super important, bro, because, like, the next era is the future.

29:27You know what I mean? And then just understanding what they'll go through if I'm, like, directing somebody in the wrong way. Like, because I had a group of, like, young homies after me. They got life. They dead. They fried. You know what I'm saying? And it was like a lot of them was like following my leadership. You know what I mean? And I ain't know no better. You know what I mean? Like we was finna end up fucked up. You know what I mean? Even though I saw it in front of me, though. You know what I mean? But I was so in awe with like my older homies and big homies. I'm like, nigga, that's what it is.

30:02That's what we doing. You know what I'm saying? So just knowing that, bro, there ain't no life at the end of that, bro. I'd much rather have you boxing or rapping or doing short films or going to be a doctor, anything. Or owning a building. Or owning ownership and business building, whatever it may be. I'd much rather have you doing that, a podcast, than gangbanging and doing street shit because I know where you're going to go. Nobody, this shit been around, and L.A. had been around over 50 years. You know what I'm saying? Like all these hoods having their 50th anniversaries like this year. You know what I mean?

30:45And then the Crip and the Blood shit been out years before it was individual sets. So it's like this shit been around over 50 years, bro. Ain't nobody beat it yet that ain't like transition. Ain't nobody that stayed in it, beat it. And like 90 % of niggas not finna get past 25 without being life or like shot up bad, can't walk like or shot in the head and his fucking mind is gone now you know what I mean like it's really fucked up bro like the the real reality of it so yeah I much rather have I much rather use my influence and my energy to help niggas do some other shit I know I ain't gonna be able to save everybody but if I could help some niggas that could help they niggas and help they niggas then you know it's important yeah so you you involved in Vector 90 nah nah nah I didn't have nothing to do with Vector 90.

31:35Okay, okay. So talk about, you know, your path in music streaming. Like, what's the most important thing for independent artists? Is it to focus on marketing? Or is it to focus on relationships, getting features, DJs? Like, what's your path? Like, a lot of people are independent artists, but a lot of people aren't successful as independent artists. Yeah, I think this is all equal. like it's like the brand what is it what's your story um who are you talking to what you represent you got to identify that so you know you're you can identify your audience you know i mean and it's marketing and like most importantly it's relationships like i got good relationships from like over the years you know i mean it's organic yeah just a lot of people that fuck with me And it's a lot of relationships.

32:30Like, we ain't never ask for favors or nothing like that. We just tight, you know what I mean? And, you know, if time come to do some business, I know it'll go well. But relationships, highly important, you know? And, like, people got to understand, like, the power of just respecting people also. Because the ego shit and the street nigga shit, having niggas being an asshole and a dickhead, like thinking that, you know, you're in a position that's untouchable or shit can't change, you know what I mean? Because, you know, it's a lot of people that may be at the bottom of the totem pole right now, this day, in fucking 24 months, which flies by like nothing, you know, they may be the top motherfucker pushing buttons, you know what I mean?

33:18So relationships are super important. How is it dealing with the complexity of you got the street dudes that you're with? Yeah And now you have business ventures And realizing that some of them can't go Most of them are not going to be able to go with you How is dealing with that complexity? I mean, that's a whole other struggle You know what I mean? Because every time I've been on a run since I've been out First thing I do is go back and grab some of my niggas Like, look, this, this, this, this and it never, it ain't worked one time. You know what I mean? And I'm just realizing that right now.

33:55Like, damn, that shit never works. So, you know, it's like, bro, the whole street thing is a struggle. And then, like, my business guys, like, hate it. You know what I mean? Mixing those two worlds. Yeah, like, nigga, your heart is entirely got you a fool. Like, yeah, I'm foolish sometimes. You know what I mean? But, you know, that's why I work so hard. So it's like if we make a mistake, I mean, we could make up for it with the work. I mean, but it's definitely it's definitely a mission, man. The two definitely don't blend at all. Like the two worlds don't even understand each other at all, either.

34:33I mean, but by me being a hybrid, it's good for me. I mean, I just everybody can go like the saying go. You know what I mean? That's a fact. Small, small. Everybody can go. That's a fact. So does that lead to a level of resentment? I was just going to say that, yeah. For sure. How you deal with that? For sure, bro. That's like, that's another pressure. That's another pressure on your mind. Just think about, like, just coming from something with people that you love and you fuck with. And then you blessed with a vision as well as the opportunity and the drive to get it done. And you want everything that you got for your niggas too.

35:15but they not trying to understand. Only thing they can understand is create a riff with you or try to discover some type of problem and live off of that instead of trying to find a solution on how we could bubble. You know what I'm saying? I'm a nigga you could bubble with. You know what I'm saying? Straight up. So, yeah, that's difficult. That's what I run into like 99.9 % of the time across resentment. It's plenty of niggas that can't stand me right now, but, you know, oh, well, shit don't stop. You've been chosen to lead. So I wonder, because you work with the word pressure, it's a lot of pressure, a lot of pressure, and it is.

35:54You're dealing with two different worlds. You're navigating. You're learning. You know one world. You're entering this new space in the world of business and business ventures, and you're learning that. At what point do you check in on your own mental health during this process? Because it can be waning. You've seen some tragedies. You've seen chaos. And even in the business world, there's a lot of shit that is real tricky. And you can't react the same way to both. No, you can't. So when do you check in on yourself? Man, that's a great question. Because that's one thing that I'm still not sure of.

36:30You know what I mean? Like, I know it's some type of confusion inside of me. You know what I mean? But I don't know if like the work, like the work and me just knowing that I'm doing something great, like I'm inspiring motherfuckers when I see people like that's refreshing for me. That's what helped me. Like, you know, I may wake up in a funk and then when I jump up and go outside and niggas is like, gee, nigga, whoa, I know what I'm doing is like I know I'm on the right path. You know what I'm saying? so that like tends to my mental health and you know the feelings and the emotions that I go through so how important is it to have a team and what what is it who's on your team you know you probably got a publicist manager like how important is that to put together I mean the team is highly important bro because like I got big vision and like just you know just want to take over the world so it's like we working on movies we doing clothes music, visual, all type of different content, working with different brands.

37:37And then the division that I got is way broader than that. So it's important to have somebody to bounce off of. And it's important to have somebody that can execute on a high level. It's important to have people around that think big, you know what I mean? And see big shit, you know what I mean? and it's also important to, it's a thin line, like it's important to be able to be modest at the same time too of just knowing where you at right now, but knowing where you got to take it. So like a team is extremely valuable in this shit right now. So what's the members of your team, like close in the circle?

38:15So we got like management, you know what I mean? We got digital. It's like social media. Yeah, we got digital. we working on a new social media person right now but like digital on the music and we got PR and then it's just a few people that like I don't want to call them assistants they do a variety of different but yeah it's a few people that make sure things get executed and carried out you know what I mean but it's very it's minimal you know what I mean it's only like three four people on the team you know what I mean And everybody is like snipers. Super efficient. Yeah. So you said you got the big vision.

39:02How independent is the process? I know you got shows. Are you guys booking the venues? Are you setting the ticket prices? How independent is this whole thing? So for some of the shows, like when we hit the road, some of the shows I do book the venue. And we just get the whole thing. And then some of the shows I get a guarantee. You know what I mean? Promoter. Yeah. And that's because, like, well, right now I'm getting guarantees damn near everywhere now. But, like, just breaking through the market and just showing that I can bring people out and sell tickets. And I got to establish, like, ticket sale.

39:39You can pull me up and see how many tickets are sold and shit. So, yeah, right now we're just getting guarantees. But, yeah, like, this year we was booking a lot of venues. Yeah, I mean, you learn so much through that process. Yeah. And you get to keep the margins a lot larger if you're doing it yourself. We went to a few shows with some established artists, and they were like, this is the first time we've actually booked our own show. But I feel like that's changing, right? The more that people get experience, younger generation sees what the old one did, now we implement. How do you determine which markets to go to?

40:14Are y 'all looking at the analytics? Are you looking at data? Yeah, we're looking at analytics, data, and then also like where other like west coast artists slide through you know i'm saying because it's a few spots that i didn't think like i'm sure we're gonna go here like where and um like uh nebraska some fanta fe yeah like yeah we went through nebraska we went through nebraska idaho i knew it all these different spots you know i mean and you know the people came out you know what I mean so it was dope like even Atlanta like I was sketchy about Atlanta Atlanta was sold out you know what I mean so yeah I just I learned a lot about what was going on and the work that we was doing this year which one do you like better being booked as talent promoter or actually doing it yourself um yeah I kind of like doing it back because a lot of promoters like aren't really promoters like you know what I mean it's like you run across somebody that want to toss you some money and then it's like like for me right now yeah for me right now bro what's more important like is the of course the money like we're gonna get paid but we gotta make sure this motherfucker filled up too you know what I'm saying like so a lot of promoters see me, like I come through a city, it's sold out, and they just think that they could have me posted on Instagram a couple times.

41:42And that's going to do it. Yeah. So, you know, you run into it. You just got to just fuck with reputable people, though. You know what I mean? At the end of the day. Yeah, it's interesting. I remember growing up, promoters, it was a thing. They actually sold the shows. Yeah. They marketed it. Now promotion's like, yo, put the flyer up. That's their job. Like, here go the money. Hey, bro, can you post the flyer again? You got to do the work. It's like, nigga, you have a job and I have a job. My job is to come entertain. I'm going to promote also because I'm into the overkill. You know what I mean?

42:17But a lot of people don't understand their role. It's just like, damn, what's the word? I'm short on words. People just entitlement. Like, niggas just don't understand what they're doing, basically. So as an independent artist, where do you make most of your money? Shows or actually selling music? Clothes. Clothes? Clothes. That's more money than anything. Yeah. Yeah. All right, so talk about that. So what's the model behind that? The actual brand or just, like, how we moving it? How you moving it? um so it's like we started off just with like the scarcity like where's that where's i going yeah so scarcity like to just get people to run through as opposed to over a week period nigga we want everything sold this weekend you know i'm saying or matter of fact friday limited drop you know i mean yeah so which is like the limited a limited drop starts off small and a limited drop goes from maybe 200 pieces to 500 to 1 ,000 to a couple thousand, and it's still a limited drop.

43:29But these pieces is gone quick as shit, you know what I'm saying? So, like, just promoting it through, you know, scarcity and then, like, just continue promoting the idealism behind the brand and the lifestyle behind the brand, you know what I mean? And Blue T-shirt is pretty much like a progressive lifestyle brand, you know what I mean? blue t-shirt what is that is that is that a gang reference nah it's not gang

43:58it's basically just perception like like we were saying earlier like as far as the resentment and then you know just different like that blue t-shirt is similar to me walking into a circle of the homies like hey uh we could make 10 million with this rap all you got to do is this this, this, you know, man, hell no, I ain't doing this shit. That shit ain't going to work. You know what I mean? So it's like just shit that I experienced is, you know, the idealism behind blue T-shirt. Like nothing is blue. You know what I mean? Sometimes it ain't even a T-shirt, but it's blue T-shirt still, though. It is a blue T-shirt.

44:36You know what I mean? Because I'm making it happen. I can make it happen. So you, this makes sense, right? So like if it's a limited drop, I'm assuming now when I go to the shows, I know who the real supporters are because most times they're going to have the blue t-shirt brand on. Yeah. We get in cities like, that shit feel good to one. Hand to hand. You hit a different city and niggas already got... You selling stuff at the show? Yeah, for sure. At the core audience. How do we envision this? Because you said that there's a big vision. This is a two-part question. Can that vision be fully executed while in LA?

45:12Right? Or do you have to actually navigate throughout the globe. You definitely have to navigate throughout the globe. Now, LA is a big market. It's an important market. It's a market that you gotta have, especially being from LA. But, it's, you know, if you don't step outside of that, then you just, like, it's a ceiling. You know what I mean? It's definitely a ceiling. So, you definitely gotta like, step out and move around and spread the message and connect and learn new shit and different ways to do shit. Like, you can't know everything, but L.A. niggas do know everything. You know what I mean?

45:50So, you know, that's also something that I had to overcome. Like, the L.A. nigga, the crip nigga in me. You know what I'm saying? That, yeah, fuck that. You know what I'm saying? So, yeah, we definitely got to step out. So, you know, we moving around. And I'll speak a little bit more on what we doing right now later. But, yeah, right now, you know, we outside the box for sure. When you said Idaho, I'm thinking to myself, if there's people in Idaho, there's definitely people in the UK. Yeah. Definitely people in Paris and Lagos, Nigeria. Yeah, so we send shit to London, Japan. Toronto. A few, like, Vancouver.

46:30I ain't really been, like, I ain't been doing the orders in about a year. But when I was doing the orders myself, like, these were spots that we were sending shit to. It's direct shipping or you have it, like, in a way out? Yeah, direct. So I got everything at one spot. And then it's like orders that get sent out. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So I got somebody that come through. He come through once a week, ship everything. You know what I mean? And when we do drops, you know, but we doing like more consistent drops now. So, yeah, he come through once a week, get the orders out. And then I got the studio right there.

47:02We working. I got my camera guy right here. We could shoot a video at any time. We shoot an episode. So we about to start season three of my vlog. So, you know, we vertically integrated. We integrated. So talk about the content, the vlog, and why is that important? And whose idea was that?

47:30I want to say it was my idea. You know what I mean? I can't say if somebody's like, you need to vlog. And I was like, yeah. But for the most part, it was my idea. And I just feel like people need to, like, see the lifestyle. You know what I mean? People need to see what's going on. Because I come from an era of if you know, you know, nigga. Like, but this ain't the time. If you know, you know. Because it's so many motherfuckers, they show so you know. You know what I'm saying? And that's the game. Like, show me something. Let me see something. Like, how is you popping up on, how many times you popping up on here?

48:05And what are you doing? And how is you inspiring me, nigga? And why do I want to fuck with you? You know what I'm saying? Fuck what I heard. You know what I'm saying? And then, like, the way that the street culture is, like, just taking a, like, nasty turn right now. Like, you got to put it out there, like, where you, you know, where you coming from and what you represent. You know what I'm saying? And then, again, that's, like, lack of budget. Like, we don't got, like, millions to spend at one time. Not yet. You know what I'm saying? and like in this next run we will you know what i'm saying and we still gonna flood like that but you know we got to give it to them you know what i mean so it's more music more content is the the blue t-shirt brand is it more items as well is that as part of the plan so yeah so this year we moving into items like uh like backpacks um household items you know I mean, have real estate in people's house.

49:05That's always good. We're just looking to create a brand, like, that people could really live by. You know what I mean? Just full lifestyle. Like, everything you're doing, blue T-shirt could be involved. So, essentially, your music is a commercial for the clothing. For sure. Clothing is number one priority. Yeah. Clothing and touring is, like, neck and neck. You know what I mean? Yeah. but like clothing like smoke and everything though honestly and um like you say the music is the commercial for the brand that's crazy that's what like that's what Jigga told me that's what Emory told me well because you know you know what's funny about that because who told us that was Dame yeah so Dame yeah so yeah that was Dame told us that he was like yo when he does his movies he was like yo I'm wearing I'm wearing my clothes he's like this shit is an hour-long commercial for me to promote my marijuana, promote my clothes, promote my liquor.

50:04I could promote everything within an hour without you even knowing I'm really promoting it. Exactly. And that's what we're getting into movies. Hotshot 2 with DJ Drama is on the way. And we got a movie coming with that. And like you said, that's a commercial for the brand. You know what I mean? It's a commercial for the brand of myself and just everything that I represent. You know what I mean? So who are Who are some of your Your icons Or some people That you love to Look up to Inside of the world Of brand building Well I guess Slash fashion Because I feel like We had this conversation With Berner And his thing was The merch The merch The merch Yeah the marijuana Is cool But the merch The merch The merch And now I'm hearing it from you That was the merch The merch Yeah You know Berner makes more money Off of merch than cookies Did you know that?

50:50Yeah for sure You knew that? Hell yeah Yeah Berner I was surprised I didn't think I wouldn't I wouldn't that cookies is that cookies booming man sure but um yeah people like burner you know I mean um it's it's so many different designers bro that I'm inspired by and just people that got brands like we that's like a whole hour-long conversation right there like but I would I just say I'm just inspired by success. And with me, success don't always mean who made the most money that year. You know what I'm saying? It's kind of like who made the most impact that year. You know what I'm saying? And who touched the most people, which ultimately equals dollar signs.

51:38You know what I'm saying? So who inspires your fashion? Because I see you got the chukas on. That's very vintage New York. What chukas? I mean, the construction. Whoa, whoa, shoddy, shoddy. My boy. What happened? Shockers, baby. So that's a New York thing, not an L.A. thing. Well, you knew he was coming here. Well, that's what I'm getting at. Nah, I had something else on. I slid through soap, so we went around the corner to do something before this. And I was trying to go do some shopping before I jetted. And I just only, I wasn't feeling the J's I had on. I'm like, I need some Thames with this shit.

52:16You know what I'm saying? That's going to set me off. I went around there, and then I was trying to make it to EVZU. But, yeah, man. Bro, the fashion is inspired by, like, a multitude of people, bro. You've been into fashion for a long time? I mean, I've been getting fly for a long time. But this is my thing, though. Like, real fashion people and fashionable people kind of look at me like, you know what I'm saying? because I'm just like a fly street guy, like just not necessarily fashionable. Like fashion show type? Yeah, if that makes sense. You know what I mean? I'm just like a fly street nigga.

52:56You're not wearing the couture runway show? I don't know. If necessary, occasionally. Yeah. Occasionally. Like I'm going to mix it to like to where you could, I still look like a South Central guy. I was about to ask you, that's what I was getting at. So New York obviously is the home of fashion, we can say, right? We can say. We can say that. Yeah, we can. That's like no dispute. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's for sure. So it's like that's part of the culture. Like you had to get dressed. Everybody, you know, in middle school, high school, it was like, you know. But I feel like L.A., that's not the same culture, right?

53:34It's not the same pressure to get fly. Nah, L.A., like you got fly niggas. in LA, you know what I'm saying? It's just not like fashion fly. Driven. It's not like super focused on that. Yeah. Yeah, it's not fashion, like high fashion driven. It's just like, just clean fly shit. You know what I'm saying? Like, you know what I mean? And it's pretty much a uniform in LA. Like if you went to inner city type shit. You know what I'm saying? So let me ask you this. Speaking of LA, how how big of a role was nipsey hustle to the city of la i mean obviously everybody you know appreciated him all over the world but in la like you know just from hearing from you and talking to blast and different people from la that wasn't even a part of his immediate inner circle but i could just see different influences like how how impactful was that to actually see his rise and his rise to power?

54:34Like, Nip was like, see, the thing about Nip was like, he was one of them niggas that you gonna see on the block. Like, you gonna see him out, and then he like, from like one of the most notorious hoods in L.A., you know what I'm saying? And he's there, like front and center. And you may bump into him. Like, me and Nip used to bump into each other all the time early morning, you know what I mean? So he a dude you gonna see, but he he's from the culture he's from the lifestyle and he's like just a full of the stamp of what it is right but the twist is he's also like a nigga with big vision that's making it happen outside the box and he's moving across the world and across the country and he and and And you could see him in your face and see he's doing great shit.

55:29You know what I'm saying? And like the city always loved him. You know what I mean? Now, people everywhere else that wasn't from this shit probably didn't get it until after he passed away. But like Nip was like probably like one of the most influential niggas to like ever come up out of L.A. from our era and probably the eras before and a few eras after. You know what I'm saying? Like his influence was unmatched. Like, he inspired, like, niggas that, like, naturally posed to hate him. You know what I'm saying? Like, and, you know, the city loved him, bro. Like, I don't think it'll never be another.

56:05Like, never, ever. Like, that nigga was just special, man. Like, he was special. Like, he was, like, the first motherfucker that was, like, it's okay to think. It's okay to read. Like, I'm still a gangster. You know what I mean? But it's okay to bring all these slashes into your game and you can still be here. You know what I mean? So, yeah, Nipples. Yeah, I mean, the influence is, I mean, extremely strong. It may not be another hymn, but I feel like the influence, it's like the pop theory of I might not be the rose that grew from concrete. That theory where it's like I might not change the world, but I'll spark the mind that does.

56:47I feel like there's artists, and maybe you know better from the city of L.A., more than just one that can carry that torch. So even what you're doing with the youth, I feel like that's important. I feel like you creating brand, that's important. You doing shows in LA, that's important. We'll get to that, the Novo Theater. But do you feel that word pressure to carry that legacy or part of that legacy? Nah, because at the end of the day, bro, Nip is his own man, his own thing. He had a vision of his own. And he completed to a certain point. and it's then turned into something else after he's gone.

57:24Like, he did a great thing. Like, he created a, like, a forever brand. You know what I mean? And, like, he inspired niggas to create their own. So, like, I would never ever in life, like, even insult bro or, like, lack of better terms, insult my own vision, like, trying to walk in the next man's shoes. Not walking in shoes, but spark the next generation in your own way. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So, yeah, so, yeah, I definitely, I don't think it's any pressure because, like, what I learned from bro is it is, you know, like, whatever my mission is and whatever I'm on, as long as I'm, like, really glued to it and executing and, like, really serious about it, I'm doing the right thing.

58:16You know what I mean? Like, even if another thing I learned is from bro is even if people don't understand, because it was a lot of people that didn't understand, bro. You know what I mean? And even if people don't understand and I know that I'm doing the right thing in my heart, my mind and my soul, then I'm in the right direction. So there's no pressure. Who's some of your favorite artists that's coming up out the West? I've got a lot of dope artists that's, you know, bubbling right now. On, like, the R &B side, like Ty Dolla$ign and Blast, and then on the rap side, who's some of, you know, people that you actually listen to?

58:55Wally. I think Wally going, like, like, Wally the sensei, bro, I think he going to, like, change the world, honestly. You know what I'm saying? In all honesty. Like, bro is, like, he just speak from a whole different place than everybody else. And it's like, you know, it's not like selfish. Like, you know what I'm saying? Like, he really giving you him, like, uncut, unfiltered. Like, it's shit you could feel. You know what I'm saying? And it sound great. Like, Wally Dope, Roochie Dope. It's like, it's a lot of people, man. I don't want to get to naming people and leaving nobody out. But, like, LA is definitely bubbling right now.

59:34You know what I mean? And about to hit another, like, major wave. my brother yeah nah it's been real man we appreciate the construction Tim's first let's do that the construction Tim we appreciate the Visage lens yeah for sure B.I.G B.I.G I felt like P.O.P.P.A very reminiscent came through you knew the assignment my brother so from two New Yorkers who'd you who'd you we appreciate you who'd you who did you grow up you say you grew up on Lil Wayne yeah Weezy Wiz Spitter You know what I mean? Jeezy Jeezy Jeezy The game you said? Gucci Game French Montana Yeah Like all these different people that was just flooding Like just giving us content Like you know what I'm saying?

1:00:27That YouTube era Like that mid 2000s, 2005 That type of time Yeah And beyond Yeah So it's just like just a lot of people just... Who's your goat? Who's your great... Who do you think is the goat? For you, personally. My goat? Your goat. Not like the goat. E-Fotie. Seriously. E-Fotie. I would expect you to say Wayne, because most people from that era, they think Wayne is the greatest ever. No, Wayne the greatest, but like, when like, my goat like, just like, it's just more than just rap. Like, like, Foty, like, of course I wasn't there when all that shit was dropping, but I'm a student of the shit.

1:01:06And like, he was like one of the first niggas dropping consistent, nonstop. And he was like a major independent. You know what I mean? He owned all his shit. And then he got all these different businesses. And the nigga still tight. Like, it's not like other OGs when they drop shit. Like the youth is still playing E-40. Like we still go crazy when we see 40. You know what I'm saying? And he, and I think he just like a, a great example of like, business and how to age in the game and still be the shit and still be successful and do other shit. So, yeah, E-40, man, my final answer. Shout out to 40 Water.

1:01:48Shout out to E-40, man. Good dude. We had him on the show, ran into him a few times. Sent to some spirits. Nice, good dude. Good dude. All right, my brother, I appreciate it, man. How can people follow you on social media and all that? BG Perico on pretty much everything. It's summer all year round. For sure. In L.A. In L.A. it rained for like three days and then we back to trying to put the jet skis on the lake. That's a fact. All right. Thank you guys for rocking with us. We'll see you next week. Peace. Peace. Peace. An illegal alien from Guatemala charged with raping a child in Massachusetts.

1:02:24An MS-13 gang member from El Salvador accused of murdering a Texas man. A Venezuelan charged with filming and selling child pornography in Michigan. These are just some of the heinous migrant criminals caught because of President Donald J. Trump's leadership. I'm Kristi Noem, the United States Secretary of Homeland Security. Under President Trump, attempted illegal border crossings are at the lowest levels ever recorded, and over 100 ,000 illegal aliens have been arrested. If you are here illegally, you're next. You will be fined nearly$1 ,000 a day, imprisoned and deported. You will never return.

1:03:03But if you register using our CBP Home app and leave now, you could be allowed to return legally. Do what's right. Leave now. Under President Trump, America's laws, border, and families will be protected. Sponsored by the United States Department of Homeland Security. Hey, it's Joel. And Matt from HowToMoney. If your New Year's resolution is to finally get your finances in shape, We've got your back. Prices, they're still high, and the economy is all over the place. But 2026 is the year for you to get intentional and make real progress. That's right. Each week, we break down what's happening with your money, the most important issues to focus on, and the small moves that make a big difference.

1:03:42Kick off the year with confidence, listen to How to Money on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. What if mind control is real? If you could control the behavior of anybody around you, what kind of life would you have? Can you hypnotically persuade someone to buy a car? When you look at your car, you're going to become overwhelmed with such good feelings. Can you hypnotize someone into sleeping with you? I gave her some suggestions to be sexually aroused. Can you get someone to join your cult? NLP was used on me to access my subconscious. Mind Games, a new podcast exploring NLP, a.k.a.

1:04:18neurolinguistic programming. Is it a self-help miracle, a shady hypnosis scam, or both? Listen to Mind Games on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

1:04:54Our two-part conversation is available now. Listen to The Mailroom on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your favorite shows. This is an iHeart Podcast. Guaranteed human.

From the publisher

In this exclusive Earn Your Leisure interview, G Perico breaks down the real cost of being in the streets, how he went broke spending more than he made, and why independence in music is the key to real wealth. He explains how he keeps 80% of his profits, the importance of building a team, and the strategy behind flooding the market with content.


We also dive into the business of touring, avoiding shady promoters, and what he learned from Nipsey Hussle. If you’re an artist, entrepreneur, or just want to own your future—this one’s for you.


#GPerico #EarnYourLeisure #IndependentArtist #NipseyHussle #MusicBusiness #StreetToSuccess #ContentIsKing #HipHopGame #Daquan #Ownership #WealthBuilding



Our Sponsors:
* Check out PNC Bank: https://www.pnc.com
* Check out Square: https://square.com/go/eyl


Advertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brands

Privacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

More from Earn Your Leisure

All 386 episodes
G Perico on Going Broke, Owning 80% of His Music, Nipsey Hussle & Why Independence Is the Only WayEarn Your Leisure · 1 h 2 min
Listen in VO