Investor Daily: Riding the Options Roller Coaster

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2:26New Year, Real You. Listen to Checking In with Michelle Williams from the Black Effect Podcast Network on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I wanted to continue this conversation. What's up, my brother? Ah, everything's good, man. How's it going? I got some advice for you. Yeah, for real. I'm going to get into the show at this point. No, yeah, absolutely, man. Listen, I am, listen, y 'all ever need to add a testimonial or something, bro? I do right now. I'm up on call. I'm up. Dave Shands. Dave Shands, my brother. So, Dave, so we had a conversation offline, but, you know, I think that what you said is vitally important because I'm pretty sure it's a lot of people that kind of feel the same way.

3:14So, I'll give the audience the background if they're not familiar. Dave Shands, this was six months ago, maybe. January 11th. January. work. And Dave Shands, I walked Dave Shands through his first option play. He never made an option play before. Right? Absolutely. I was like, yo, what's up? But long story short, he got into an AMD call. And the AMD call was a roller coaster. It was up, then it was down, then it was down more, then it was down really bad. He stayed with it. Called me a few times asking, should he sell? He's like, yo, if you sell, let me know because I'm in a call with him. Can we add a piece to this story?

4:00I'm getting the call like, yo, bro, you sure about this? Rashad didn't pick up, bro. I'm like, yo, what are we doing? Bro, just trust me on this one. So fast forward to now, he's up 300. How much you up? 300 and what? Well, today I'm down$15. Percentage-wise, how much you up? Stop it, David. I don't want to hear this shit, y 'all. All I ask is, you got two plaques on the wall talking about I'm down$50. I won't pay$50. But I'm up 378%, up $22 ,000. Things are happening right now. You're giving out a dollar amount. My children say hello. My children say thank you. So Shanda's up 338 % in less than one year.

4:46Okay, but you had a vital... You text me today and you was concerned about AMD going into earnings. So you said, should you sell? So this is something that, like I said, a lot of people knowing when to sell is something that a lot of people have questions about. Making 300 percent and not wanting to lose money is a valid concern for sure. So these are all things that I'm sure a lot of people have the same questions about. right and you i just think it's dope because you're a content creator and you're in the space and you're learning in real time so we're going to talk about our advice to you but what's your emotions right now as far as this option trade so far i have uh earnings called past trauma bro i've experienced trauma in which company netflix bro netflix hook me you hear me But let's help with your trauma.

5:46Let's fix your life. Yeah. NVIDIA earnings and Netflix earnings are different from AMD. So I know that pain is still there. But first and foremost, when you got into the option, did you know what percentage gain you wanted to get before you added it? You asked me this in front of people here? These are like behind the scenes conversations, bro. We're coaching. Welcome to Traders Therapy. No. With the intro. New segment. Traders Therapy. No, I didn't. This is the trading hot seat.

6:24That might be a show. Hey. You been flaming. Yeah, yeah, yeah. No, I didn't. No, I didn't. Okay. I didn't know. Well, you know, the earnings cooked a lot of people. Meta, notoriously. I mean, they just dropped$80 last week. Which was unbelievable. Before that, Meta, they had the worst drop in history a few years ago. So that earnings can definitely hurt, especially if it's options, because whatever you feel in the stock, you want to feel three times more in options call. So, OK, so that's a valid concern that you have. Quick question, Dave, around the Netflix. Did you buy the call leading into earnings or you've been in the call already?

7:06No, I've been in it. I've been in it. And then it was like a... Okay. But then I was buying down, though. Like when it dropped, it won't come up. Yeah, I'm still getting cooked right now. But it's part of you. You believe in the company? Yeah, absolutely. Okay. Okay. All right. So Dave Shands wants to know, should he sell AMD before earnings? What's the unanimous decision? Hold on. Let me tell you what happened. So I said it before the call. And then one of y 'all on speaker was like, yo, the cause the next year. So he didn't give me financial advice. But the way he said it was it's secure. I said, OK, I'm going to chill.

7:49You have another year to work through whatever precipitous decline or upside that they have. And a thing that we're trying to stress to you, because you're starting off when you're like Otani, you start off with a home run. stay in for the long term because not only will your confidence get built off of this win look how many people in your family lives you'll be able to guide and help through the same kind of situation so don't get out early and i think it's a mistake for any trader or any investor to only look at the short side because what if you miss out on another 120 to the upside yeah that's my question too um yeah but so how do you know so the last time i was on market mondays um like we had the testimonial joint shot up and i only have two contracts and one of the advice was like yo you could just sell one and then keep the other but if i'd have done that i'd have missed out on a whole bunch of money so how do i know like what's the top or do i just ride it out period or am I looking for something?

8:53I think that's what the entering, knowing where you're going to exit the position before you enter it plays in. Right? So I always say like, I like to get 100 % return if I'm investing. And so if I bought 10 contracts or like you did, you bought two contracts. If I get to 100%, then my initial investment comes out. So it gives me the capital to say, all right, if the one that I still have remaining continues to grow, now I can re-enter perhaps a later position because i believe in the company so much and maybe get three contracts right because it's going to be a little bit cheaper so you always got to have the position mapped out which is why i always say buy time right so when you bought that and i think it's important your story is important your testimony is important because this wasn't a home run at first right like i think people need to realize that like when it when you bought the call it actually pulled back because dc happened at the end of january yeah right and then april 7th happened and we saw a pullback but you didn't sell, right?

9:52You kept it. So it actually was a negative contract that actually turned out to be a 300%, which is why when we started the show it was like, well, what's your stop loss? If Dave put a stop loss, he would have sold all that and missed out on the upside. But also, let's say, for instance, my target was to be up 200%. If I'd have hit the 200 % and I'd have sold, I would be upset. you know what I mean? Like right now. So the thing about it is this, you can never lose by taking profit. But also ChatGBT is your mentor. So you should be having daily conversations with ChatGBT because it's not going to tell you exactly what's going to happen, but it's going to give you a very educated sentiment of everything that's happening in the world.

10:37And the good thing with ChatGBT is that at the end of it, because how I use ChatGBT, I ask it a question and it types it out, but I'll hit the record because nine times out of ten, I'm too busy to read a bunch of different stuff. So it voices it. It's like a voice, right? It'll say, okay, da-da-da-da-da-da-da. Then they say, okay, now, is this sufficient or do you want more? So it'll tell you the traps, the highlights, what to look forward to. Are they still bullish on the situation as far as the market sentiment? What are all of the analysts saying in an aggregate, what's fueling it is the AI crave.

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16:22Or I got another 18 months. I'm pretty confident that it's still going to go up. It might pull back in the short term, but I have a high level of confidence that over the next 18 months, the stock is going to be higher than it is right now today. And in the spirit of InvestFest, even though you didn't ask Dave, a good prompt, act as a world-class investor based on our last five years data. What's the average that AMD goes up over a three month or one year period in this option and it will start to break down the options and how much they will go up to know if you are have some meat left on the bone pause or if you should start to take profit you don't have to guess because it'll tell you the exact calculation of how much each option future asset classes went up and went down so you can know if you're up 300 percent of the averages hypothetically 315 you know how much more room you have to go if you want to maximize or if you want to take the money off the table.

17:23That's fantastic. You got a point. Tomorrow is earnings. So you're talking about earnings from a fair, but you got to look at how the market has performed and how that sector has performed. So we can look at Broadcom and we can look at Micro. We can look at all these semis and see how they performed. And then we can ask ourselves, what's the sentiment for the sector, right? And then what still is the bullish sentiment around AI? have data center expansions increased? Well, we just heard Amazon saying they're about to go over 120 billion, right? We just heard Meta, which pulled back because they said our CapEx is going to increase in spending.

18:02And so that AI story is still there. The data center story is still there. And then you look at what's happened in the quarter for AMD. Yeah, they've been on a nice run. Did they have any catalyst events inside the quarter? Well, yeah, they announced that they're partnering with this company called OpenAI, who actually owns ChatGPT, right? And so now they have a 10 % stake. So it's more advantageous for OpenAI to perform, and we're seeing it. They're about to hit a billion monthly users. Having a 10 % stake, well, where are they going to get that compute from? Yes, it's going to be from NVIDIA, but it makes even more sense to have something that's going to cost less, which they can have in-house, right, which is AMD.

18:40And in addition, they have new products, right? So we've been talking about this on Market Mondays for a while, with the M1350 is about to start getting into that cycle of revenue price. And that's that GPU that is the next tier, right? So when we talk about NVIDIA and we're talking about obviously a Hopper, but now Blackwell and Barkwell Ultra in a few months, AMD is now putting that second tier GPU in market. And the people who can't afford at this level will be able to get at this level. So you take all that into account. You see that the moves that they're making, you see that Lisa Su is becoming more visible.

19:12You see the partnership she's having. It feels like there's a bullish case. So we'll see. I like it. But the reason why I like to say buy time is because you buy in those catalyst events. So when you did it in January, I'm already calculating. If I do something out to June next year, that's at least four to five earnings reports. It gives yourself time. Got it. Right. That's at least four to five of them that we're going to calculate inside there. There's going to be innovation inside there. There's going to be partnerships announced inside there. there's going to be volatility that's going to be priced inside there and so we're using all that to our advantage when we make that call when it goes out over a year plus the tax incentives right if you would have bought a january contract there's going to be some short-term capital gains whereas now when you're in june there's long-term capital gains because the great thing is like yeah you've made this money right that 300 or 400 potentially by tomorrow but if you got to pay capital gains tax on that then you got to make sure that when you get those gains that are realized that you have the money to pay those taxes as well, which a lot of people have to remember inside of an investor.

20:16Yeah, I realize that I need to ask a really immature question of like, what should I do versus finding out what's happening and even ask you all the questions. I know people come up to you, yo, should I buy this? Or I think the next conversation that I have with you all will be backed by some reasoning of what I'm doing. Saying, okay, I see this, I see this, I see this. what do you make of that in terms of my question asking? Cause then I'll get a better answer versus, yo, what do you think I should do? So, but it's still a great question. You have, you have to be educated to ask the question.

20:52Yeah. Yeah. I like this segment with you, Dave. Yeah. We should have you back as a regular, at least once a month. Cause now you, people can actually see your trading journey in real time and go through all of the aspects as far as the emotional and ups and downs. But before you leave, my last thing is the Bitcoin situation. remember we was on stage and you asked Ian about Bitcoin and I think it was like I don't know where it was at 80, 70 around that range and he was like nah it's a good time to buy and then you was like well how do you know like how are you sure so Bitcoin now like I said it's been hovering around$110 ,000 so from that standpoint in less than a year Bitcoin is up $40 ,000 so did you buy it?

21:39No, I didn't buy it, bro. Leave me alone. No, I'm sorry. Why would you listen to your boy? I know, man. I didn't have faith. You don't have faith in me? It will never happen again, bro. It will never happen again. I should have bought a Bitcoin at that time. That was a hell of a time. That was a layup time, but it's okay. I just showed Shadi a text I got from a dude in my neighborhood. It says, today, I'm the dave shans am i lying it says oh whatever the dude's name is i said laugh out loud dave shans he's like yo yeah i'm gonna be him so people are hearing your story on market mondays every week and they're like that's gonna be me i like that bro yeah this is yo that that chat man i hope it was listening to that chat gbt like just finding out what's going the wealth of the world is also to get a regardless of what's going on in the world biggest piece of advice your targets for your exit have to remain the same.

22:37So regardless of what happens with Trump or whoever wins next, the Peter Thiel picks, my targets and futures remain the same year round. It takes a lot of the frustration. That's why Rashad kept saying, listen, if you take profit, you don't lose that way. So if your first target is 100 % and your second is 400, it doesn't matter who's in office. Those should always be your targets. Let me ask this though. Let's say, for instance, you hit your target, but you see something that gives you confidence to stay in. Are you in a disciplined space where it's like, yo, I'm going to take it and then maybe go back in?

23:11Or based on what's happening, do you let it ride? You should always follow your plan and then start to size up. Yeah. And this is great because we talked about this last week as well. If I've hit my target and I've taken out my initial investment and it's a strong company, like I literally have done this probably five or six times. I like to call it. I start stacking my calls. right? So like I've done it with NVIDIA and I shout out to everybody that gave me the congratulations. I've stacked NVIDIA calls from$20, which are obviously stock split take into account to$45 to$80 to a hundred. I have probably eight calls on NVIDIA.

23:50And as I see that price and the announcements and the catalyst events and the innovation that they announced, I keep stacking. I've done it with Micron. I've done it with Broadcom. I've done with Seleska. If I believe in the company and the fundamentals are there and the technicals are showing me that this is something that's going to continue, I do it. I always invest the money. I don't treat it like a checking account where it's like, yeah, we made$20 ,000 and we made$30 ,000. No, I'm looking at like, okay, can I go back into this position and grab some more contracts so we can let this run?

24:21Can we do 100 % again? Then you can talk real crazy on them hot seats. What made you pick this dumbass business? You can't even wait here.

24:32your beard off how you a barber

24:38how many companies are in the portfolio in terms of your your options like portfolio how many companies are in there options i have one um i got i'll just tell you i got amd i have Netflix. Don't be mad at that. MU is going crazy. See, you don't even know. I said Micron five times. That's Micron. MU is, yeah. Ridiculous. I don't think so. Who got one? Huh? So you got MU, you got MU, Netflix, AP, Meta. That was recent. Yeah, I got ASML. I just got ASML today. Today? Today. Yep. Today? So you got four. Yep. Here's the name I'm at, uh, M-U-M-D. Stay right there. M-D. Five. Stay right there. Just four is a sweet spot.

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