Nasdaq’s Record Highs: Is the AI Boom Here to Stay?

17 Aug 2025 · 10 min

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Podcast Summary: Earn Your Leisure - Nasdaq’s Record Highs: Is the AI Boom Here to Stay?

Episode Overview In this episode of the Earn Your Leisure podcast, hosts Rashad Bilal and Ian Dunlap discuss the recent record highs of the Nasdaq and the implications of a potential AI boom on the market's future. The conversation revolves around whether investors should anticipate a sustained bull run or prepare for a possible downturn.

Key Concepts

  • Current Market Status: The Nasdaq recently achieved a record high, prompting discussions about the sustainability of this growth, particularly in relation to AI advancements.
  • Comparison with Dot-Com Era: Rashad emphasizes that today's tech giants like Nvidia, AMD, Apple, and Microsoft have fundamentally stronger business models and profit margins compared to companies from the dot-com bubble.
  • Investment Strategy Recommendations: Both hosts agree that shorting the Nasdaq might be ill-advised and advocate for a long-term investment strategy focused on high-quality companies.

Detailed Discussion Points

  1. The Strength of Modern Tech Companies
  2. Nvidia's Performance:
  3. Nvidia is highlighted as a generational company with an impressive net margin of up to 55%.
  4. Discussion on how Nvidia's growth differs from past tech companies during the dot-com era, stressing the importance of current business models.
  1. Market Predictions and Investment Approaches
  2. Potential Pullbacks:
  3. While a slight pullback is expected, Rashad and Ian argue that a major correction (20% or more) is unlikely due to the strength of leading companies in the Nasdaq.
  4. Long-term Investing Philosophy:
  5. The hosts advocate for holding onto proven high-performing stocks over decades as a strategy for generational wealth creation.
  1. Economic Factors Influencing the Market
  2. Interest Rate Cuts:
  3. Anticipated cuts in interest rates are expected to bolster large tech companies, aiding their growth potential.
  4. Tariff Adjustments:
  5. Discussions include potential changes in tariffs with China that could positively impact market dynamics for companies like Nvidia and others.
  1. Notable Companies Discussed
  2. The conversation references several major players:
  3. Microsoft, Apple, Google, Amazon, Meta, Broadcom, Tesla as strong components of the Nasdaq that investors should consider holding rather than shorting.
  1. The Bull Case for the Nasdaq
  2. Despite fears of a correction or recession, the hosts maintain that the overall market outlook remains bullish, stressing the importance of intelligent, consistent investment strategies in the innovation economy.

Conclusion The episode concludes with a strong message against letting fear dictate investment decisions. Rashad and Ian encourage listeners to focus on building wealth through smart, long-term investments in innovative companies that are well-positioned for growth.

Key Takeaways

  • Avoid Shorting: Shorting the Nasdaq, particularly leading tech companies, could be risky.
  • Focus on Long-term Growth: Holding quality stocks over extended periods can lead to substantial wealth.
  • Stay Informed: Understanding market drivers, like interest rates and tariffs, is crucial for making informed investment decisions.

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2:26Is this a fresh AI-led bull leg, or will it soon be undone? I want everyone to be very clear. I want you to stop wishing for a NASDAQ pullback because you may have gotten in too late or not at all. I think NVIDIA had ushered in probably the, if we're looking at like the class, like the 96 draft class, this 2025 2024 class of tech companies are probably some of the best we have ever seen in the history of american enterprise um so will there be a pullback absolutely but i'm seeing a lot of correction talk a lot of recession talk is there a recession in the economy yes and nasdaq and nvidia not so much two things can be true at the same time um i think there may be a probability of Nasdaq pulling back to 23 or 71, somewhere in the area.

3:27But as far as a long-term 20%, 30 % drop, the companies are too strong. NVIDIA, AMD, and I know that chart keeps circling around of NVIDIA's growth versus Cisco's growth. The difference is Cisco didn't have the margins or Netscape during the dot-com bubble, didn't have the same kind of architecture in the business model. For a multi-trillion dollar company, for them to still be operating at 51 % net margin is absolutely great. That's like a small business operating at 98 % net margin. So this is one of the best companies ever. Tesla solid. Apple starting to fight back. Google is solid. Now is not the time to short the market.

4:18the real move is to buy in and hold for a long period of time and don't change that as i prep for invest fast and everything that i want to keep talking about like go someone put in chat what is microsoft and nvidia's all-time return that's the power what rashad is talking about hey i had an opportunity to buy a property now i take the gains from that property and put it into something long-term. In 20 years, he'll be able to look up and from that initial investment, maybe make five or$6 million just holding 20 years. I know now it's going to be an NBA making$300 million a year, so it's going to matter.

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7:56And if I told you a multi-trillion dollar company was going to usher in this wave, and OpenAI hasn't even went public yet, now is not the time to short the NASDAQ. The Russell, the hedge funds have the largest number of shorts on the Russell 2000 in history. That's dramatically different from what's happening in NASDAQ. Please continue to hold for the next five years. Yeah, I think it's an interesting time. And if you look at the bull case, obviously, I mean, just following the trend, if you just from a technical analysis standpoint, you don't see a bear market approaching. In fact, when we talk about, you know, economic indicators, I know CPI, something is brought up a lot and we'll see where inflation is at, but all signs are pointing to rate cuts.

8:39And if you know anything about rate cuts for large scale enterprise companies, that's going to help. Yeah. And so if there's two that are being baked in for this year, we've been saying it's going to be two, it's going to be two. September looks like it's going to be the month. We're just a month away from that. You're talking about rate cuts. That's going to help. You're talking about another delay on this China tariff. That helps. You're talking about now we're going to be able to sell not our top-tier product in Backwell, but maybe some of our hoppers to China with a 15 % quote-unquote tariff.

9:12and trump said he may even let them sell a higher chip version to china i was getting there now you're talking about you're expanding that market where you have lost maybe a 15 part of your rep so like that's there on top of it now there's talks that you may be able to sell a higher chip to them so now you're growing that base that's and we're just talking about nvidia right we're talking about that hyperscaler that economy that thrives and grows off the production and the progress of NVIDIA is just as strong. When you're talking about a Broadcom and you're talking about a Dell, all these companies that are going to benefit from it, all these things help.

9:56So will there be a pullback? For sure. Every day and every week. I thought we saw two already. Like, we saw one in January for sure. We saw one in April for sure. Could we see one here in the next four to six weeks? I think we'll see a slight pullback. I don't think it'll be something that will over 20%, like a correction. I'm starting to see some analysts starting to predict that there might be one at the top of next year. But right now, that flag is green, man. The top companies in the NASDAQ, NVIDIA, Microsoft, Apple, Google, Amazon, Meta, Broadcom, Tesla. That's not a top seven or top five I want to short.

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From the publisher

In this Market Mondays clip, Rashad Bilal and Ian Dunlap break down the latest surge in the Nasdaq, which has just hit another record high. Is this the start of a long-lasting, AI-fueled bull run, or should investors brace for a pullback?


Rashad cautions against wishing for a correction just because you missed last year’s rally, emphasizing that groundbreaking tech firms like Nvidia, AMD, Apple, and Microsoft are fundamentally different from the dot-com era giants — boasting stronger business models and massive profit margins. Ian highlights the unprecedented strength of today’s tech leaders, particularly Nvidia operating with a net margin as high as 55%. The hosts unpack why comparing today’s market to periods like the dot-com bubble misses the mark.


The discussion dives into why now may not be the time to short the Nasdaq, especially given factors like pending interest rate cuts, changes to China tariffs, and global market shifts that all favor sustained growth for top tech firms. Rashad and Ian both agree: a pullback is possible, but not the kind of major correction some are predicting. Instead, they advocate for a long-term investing strategy in high-quality, innovative businesses—pointing out that holding onto top performers over decades can be a game changer for generational wealth.


Notably, the clip touches on:

  • Why Nvidia is considered a generational company and how its growth diverges from dot-com-era tech.
  • The impact of potential Federal Reserve rate cuts and international tariff policies on Nasdaq giants.
  • The strength of companies driving the market—like Microsoft, Apple, Google, Amazon, Meta, Broadcom, and Tesla—and why shorting them could prove risky.
  • The power of long-term investing and what history can teach us about patience and compounding returns.


The Nasdaq’s momentum has investors and analysts talking about possible corrections and recessions—but Rashad and Ian believe that, despite near-term volatility, the broader bull case remains strong. Don’t let fear keep you on the sidelines; instead, focus on building wealth through smart, consistent investing in the innovation economy.


If you’re looking to understand what’s driving the current market, where the risks and opportunities are, and how the world’s biggest tech titans are changing the investing landscape—this clip is for you.


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