We're Losing The Al Race - It's Almost Over!

25 Mar 2025 · 19 min

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Episode Title

We're Losing The Al Race - It's Almost Over!

Hosts

  • Ian Dunlap
  • Rashad Bilal
  • Troy Millings

Overview In this episode, the hosts discuss the rapidly changing landscape of Artificial Intelligence (AI) and its profound effects on society, education, and diversity. They delve into various topics, including educational policies, the perception of historically Black universities, and the challenges posed by technological disparities.

Key Themes and Discussions

  1. Educational Policies and Transparency
  2. Discussion on new educational policies announced during a school break.
  3. The timing raises questions about transparency in education, particularly regarding historically Black universities (HBCUs) like Howard University.
  1. Perception of Historically Black Universities
  2. Negative comparisons between HBCUs and prestigious institutions like Harvard.
  3. Political narratives that may deter prospective students from considering HBCUs.
  4. Emphasis on how such perceptions can limit diversity in academia and industry.
  1. AI and Historical Disparities
  2. Parallel drawn between historical redlining in real estate and current challenges faced due to AI.
  3. Educational inequalities highlighted, with some groups gaining access to advanced opportunities while others lag behind.
  4. Urgency to bridge these gaps to avoid further educational inequity.
  1. Importance of Relevant Skills
  2. Rashad Bilal discusses AI validation and reinforcement learning.
  3. Mention of companies like Meta focusing on energy-efficient data centers.
  4. The hosts stress the necessity of acquiring relevant skills beyond traditional education to thrive in a tech-driven future.
  1. Entrepreneurship and Investing
  2. Entrepreneurship and investing are emphasized as foundational strategies for success in an AI-dominated world.
  3. Companies like Nvidia are pointed out for their significant influence on technological and economic stability.
  1. Diversity Challenges in Tech
  2. Addressing the diversity issues within the tech industry, especially for Black individuals.
  3. Acknowledgment of the pressures and perceptions surrounding diversity initiatives.
  4. Gratitude expressed towards tech professionals who are informing and engaging communities about technological changes.
  1. Global Talent Competition
  2. Concerns raised over the dominance of Chinese and Indian talent in tech firms.
  3. The hosts emphasize the need for increased awareness among Black communities regarding technological progress and opportunities.
  1. Educational Disparities
  2. Noting the differences in AI education between countries like the U.S. and China.
  3. Discussion of HBCUs leading initiatives in AI education.
  4. Urgent call to focus on technology and entrepreneurship instead of distractions like celebrity gossip.
  1. Legal Complexities in AI
  2. Exploration of legal issues surrounding AI and robotics, including liability and discrimination.
  3. The hosts underline the importance of staying informed and proactive in ensuring inclusion in a tech-forward future.

Key Takeaways

  • Urgency of Adaptation: The episode stresses the rapid advancement of AI and the impending threats posed by technological disparities. It is crucial for communities to adapt and acquire relevant technological skills.
  • Focus on Diversity: Greater efforts are required to involve underrepresented groups in technology to ensure diverse perspectives in future developments.
  • Educational Reform: There is a need for educational systems to evolve and emphasize AI and technology from an early age, as opposed to banning tools like ChatGPT.
  • Entrepreneurship as a Lifeline: Emphasis on entrepreneurship and investing as essential skills for financial stability and success in a technology-driven future.

Conclusion The hosts call for action to address the educational and technological disparities while promoting the importance of entrepreneurship and investing. They encourage listeners to engage with the evolving tech landscape actively and prepare for the future.

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  • #TechFuture
  • #AIImpact
  • #DiversityInTech
  • #Entrepreneurship
  • #AIEducation
  • #EYL
  • #BlackTechInnovation
  • #HowardUniversity
  • #TechPolicy
  • #AIandSociety
  • #InvestInTech

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3:22Very different. Very different cultures. Very different cultures. Work culture. For sure. Yes. Okay. So you want the truth or you want the word? I know what you're doing. Nothing but the truth. Me and you talking. Nobody listening. I know where we're going. okay it's important to be honest in life

3:54it's over it's over it's over with it's over with it's over with it's scary elaborate please because that sounds so definitive but when you say it's over you mean they're working on technology that's going to replace the human race pretty much and it's almost done less than a half of 1 % of any employee in any of these buildings are black people. It's true. Less than probably 3 % of black people period are even aware or even concerned in the least bit of what's happening. Like I said, that's why it's like, even after a while, like you arguing with people online and you trying to say like, you know, it's just, it's gotta be tiring.

4:45But more important, it's embarrassing. It's actually embarrassing. Because when we go there, there's five black people and everybody's like, yo, like, it's like, how did you get the key to heaven? But it's actually embarrassing. Like I said, shout out to New Era Detroit. He was like, yeah, I'm more concerned with Big Meech's paperwork than your son's schoolwork. And that's a fact. our priorities talking about who chloe bailey is dating and just a bunch of random nonsense and adam 22 and all of that like now they have life-changing technology that's being developed that we have no input on at all we're not aware of any of it and we're just going to be casualties and victims.

5:34And it's over for America because most of the employees at these companies are Chinese and Indian. So much so, they said that sometimes in the Zoom calls, they have full Zoom calls in Mandarin. In Mandarin?

5:56Department-wide? I don't think people understand. Like, this is alarming. Yes. At a very high level. At a very, very high level. You see, America finally won the World Math Championship for high school, and every kid on the team is Chinese. We are getting dumber as a society by design. And it's alarming. And China has a plan in place to take over the world. You know, I'm with a lot of smart people these days. And I'm getting a lot of information. I'm learning things. And, you know, China, the CCP has a whole propaganda campaign called Spamoflage. So, you know, I just realized it today because when I go on Instagram, I just see all these positive Chinese posts.

6:50It's like China built 37 hospitals. China, like, but then I started to get the information. Like China got a lot of internal problems. the negative birth rate. The economy is pretty much on eggshells, but you never hear any of this stuff. All of this stuff on... So what China is doing is that they're actually funding the dysfunction in America. So you see people like Margie. What's her name? Margie, the senator? Margie Green. Margie Green. How does she get a million followers? If you don't really think about that, no politician really has that many followers. They got all these... They're promoting dysfunction in America.

7:24That's why they really wanted Trump to win. they're promoting dysfunction in America because they understand that we're just tearing up our society. But on Meta, if you look at Instagram, you're only going to see positive Chinese posts. It's like you go to wealth page and all that. It's like, oh, China just built this railroad. China just did this. It's positive propaganda that they're pushing to enhance their world perception. The crazy thing about that is that Meta is not even allowed in China. how you take over a u.s app they pretty much they took over a u.s app to shape the narrative for their country to create this function in our country the app's not even allowed inside of their country i'll be honest with you it's getting to a point where it's going to be so far the gap is going to be so wide there's not you're not going to be able to catch up and by the time you realize that you're not going to be able to catch up it's over the game is over with it's over with And when I say like the game is over with, like it's the game is over.

8:24Like it's over. Lights out, permanent underclass, a permanent, like that's what I'm saying. It's like, we got to take this a little bit more serious. The things that we concerned about are not important at all. That's why like this year at Best Fest, artificial intelligence is a main theme. We're going to have like six workshops to teach. Like, like we fund, we're going to detect technology is the most important thing that we need to be focused on right now. Everything else is a distraction. Technology, entrepreneurship, and investing. Those are the three most important things right now. China, they're teaching artificial intelligence in primary school.

9:02When New York State is banning ChatGBT, we're moving the exact opposite direction. They're teaching fifth graders and third graders artificial intelligence. You can go through a whole master's program and never learn artificial intelligence in America at all. So they just, and we were speaking to, there's an HBCU that just got artificial intelligence as a bachelor's degree. It's the first one. Yeah. Like, we always talk, obviously, people look at us and they think, wealth gap, wealth gap. This is the information gap and the technological gap that is, there is no coming back from that. Right? And yes, it's cool that we invest.

9:45Great. But we need people inside. We need people who are going to have large language models, who are going to create them. We're going to need a robotics engineer. We're going to need a humanoid engineer. We're going to need a synthetic biology. We need people in these spaces because if it is created without us, there is no imprint from us. And that's the seriousness of it. When we talk to Robert Smith, it's the same thing. If we're not part of the process in creating, we're left out. Straight up. and that can't that's not going to get reversed and from a legal standpoint if i'm a company and i third party license robots for autonomous vehicles and factory jobs who do you sue in terms of discrimination if i'm leasing said robots from a third party vendor because they're not my robots because i don't have the tech to actually run it just the software to update them, you won't even be able to have the same litigation process.

10:45You think this is being, I told you in the beginning, AI is going to be used as a way to create a gap so wide that we will never be able to recover. Another thing to gauge is the enthusiasm of the corporations to deploy it for that reason. I'm not telling you what I think, I'm telling you what I saw.

11:10AI validation reinforcement learning we talked to you about data centers like yo I was telling the people in the class that you got you know market money that you got 30 32 data centers they're like oh yeah I'm like yeah but nobody's ever said he's like yeah you know we've been building I said that's interesting the most interesting part is like look at where they're being built look at the states that they're being built in they all have the same color all have the same color and they're using energy efficient ways they're using local electricity but they're giving incentives to those places like we gotta we gotta participate uh we like this is like all that 10-year projection they asked us this question like you know let's just be 100 honest they asked us this question and they kind of knew the answer they're like what do you see ai in the next 10 years we all gave an answer when we were on the panel there and shout out to louis he was I'm going to be honest with you.

12:04It's not 10 years. It's two. Two years. Must move faster. Two years, bro.

12:16Yo, it's not an alarmist. Not being an alarmist. We're not being sensational. This is factual data. Driven insight. Who just put that? Somebody said it's changing about an hour. I'm like, yeah. So think about that. A college is just now offering a four-year degree for artificial intelligence, right? I said in two days, things could change. I can't wait four years to get a degree to now practice. It ain't going to be a degree. It's going to have to be a certification, and we're going to have to learn on the job. I can't wait four years, bro. There's two things that you got to do. You got to get your money.

12:55Because let's be honest. People with money, they're going to be good. You're going to be fine. If you got money, you're going to be good. That's why you got to learn this entrepreneurship. You got to learn this investing. If you have money, you'll be able to be okay. If you don't have money, you got to learn the skill set and you got to learn tech. If you don't have money and don't know tech... It's over with. It's over with. It's over with, unfortunately.

13:21Okay. I'm sorry to scare you, but we... Oh, here's the good news. No, it's real. It's real. I wish I could sugarcoat it, but it's real. and being in that space and I got, we got, you know what, even though there was a few of us, I want to shout out those people. For sure. Shout out to our brothers from Supermicro that came over and talked to us because when they saw us it was a reflection of the community in a sense where like people actually care about what they've been doing for the past 25 years. Because some of these people have been working in tech shout out to our earners people have been working in tech for 20, 30, 40 years and they're like they've been trying to tell the community like this is happening here's what's coming and every chance they miss and nobody listens and they were thankful that they there's a platform now so kudos to us and everybody that follows and is doing their part inside the space but to give a voice to what's actually happening and how important this is and how important the work is and how we need more people because it's lonely it's lonely in there right like imagine like we're walking in that building and obviously we're visiting and we're going to come back and report what we saw but they got to go to work there tomorrow and they've been there for years and everybody yeah yeah it's real shout out to them keep going we need y 'all we need y 'all we need y 'all we need y 'all to do that keep going for everybody that's saying where to start i mean i would say the best place to start is the video that we did with x that's that's a two-hour video from at the beginning level to pretty high level of learning the prompting and stuff like that so i mean start there but um they said she was incredible when we went to that video they were like that video was incredible of course and that's fair she tore down last year but teach your kids how to um prompt at the very like just little stuff like teach them how to use chat gbt teach them how to prompt teach them about different things like just get them in the in the flow of it they're not an expert overnight but yeah you got it you can't hide it from them like banning chat gbt is like ban the calculator it makes no sense yeah it makes no sense like why are you trying to hide something that is inevitable get them involved get them involved AI what Microsoft was to the PC market but probably 20 times bigger I can't even extrapolate how and I'm going to be very honest and I said this on stage and not just because I was there NVIDIA is probably the only company who if you remember the depression crash when james pierpott morgan bailed out america literally the nvidia ai wave bailed us out from a crash that we were supposed to have they are the vc and angel that is deploying the code so think about this like they're valued at trillions of dollars but everyone is relying on them for their market valuation and for the software to deploy an all tech in the united states of america and saudi who wrote that big check

16:28yeah i'm gonna put a list of uh things that they should be looking at like i wrote this list of careers inside of ai um yeah so i'll put it up i'll post it and it's tougher anything even tougher to get a job now once trump came let me see with that whole um because the thing about the di that's one of the neighbor like yo di or no black people really benefited from di anyway it's not even just the fact like people would not even they scared to even talk to a black person because they feel like if i hire a black person period is going to look like di is going to look like so their focus is to go as far as way from black people as possible because there's pressure there's legal pressure.

17:08That DEI thing is real. You see Columbia University just caved in. Once they put$400 million on the table, government said we're going to take$400

17:17million away from Columbia University if you don't... They waited until the kids go on break. The kids are on break this week and they announced their new policies. They caved in. But nobody's trying to lose money. Nobody's trying to go to war with the government. There is some real effects of this situation. They was already not trying to look in that direction anyway. Now, they're not even thinking about going to Howard University or Clark Atlanta. Peter T. was speaking negatively on Howard versus Harvard this past weekend. Peter T. what'd he say? That it's an quote-unquote paraphrase. It's an inferior college in comparison.

17:56A person should run the country if they went to Howard taking shots at Queen. Kamala? Yo, they're not even thinking about it. And it's no apology. You know, they had to at least do the dog and pony show show up. Now they're like, what? We were telling people, they're like, well, no, why? Like, why would we go there? They like, the black people telling people like, no, you got to go there because there's talent. They're like, no, why would we go there? There's no point. Like, what's the point? What's the audience there? But the tricky part about it is that, see, it's a domino effect that affects everybody.

18:28There's no white people there either. That's the thing. Like, you cut your nose trying to spite. What is it? You spite your face. Cut your nose. to spite your face. You're doing all of this to try to further the gap of black people. You're hurting yourself because there's no white people there either. America is in trouble. When they're having Zoom calls in Mandarin, that's a problem. Don't show up late to the meeting. At a Fortune 4 company. Don't show up late to the meeting. You might miss everything. No translation. And if y 'all think redlining and real estate was bad, man, redlining and AI is probably 100 times worse.

19:04No, it's real. I mean, we sat there and watched what appeared to be like field trips. And I'm just like, this is crazy. We still taking kids to the Bronx Zoo. These dudes is touring NVIDIA and META.

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In this thought-provoking clip from Market Mondays, hosts Ian Dunlap, Rashad Bilal, and Troy Millings delve into the rapidly evolving landscape of AI and its profound impacts on society, education, and diversity. The discussion kicks off with new policies being announced during a school break, a strategic move that avoids immediate backlash but raises eyebrows regarding educational transparency.


Controversy arises as the hosts discuss the perception and value of historically Black universities like Howard. They highlight negative comparisons to institutions like Harvard, fueled by political figures, which could potentially deter prospective students. This perception fuels a narrative that could impact diversity within the academic world and beyond, limiting the richness of diverse perspectives in education and industry.


A crucial topic covered is the parallel between historical redlining practices in real estate and modern challenges posed by AI, bringing attention to the consequences of technological disparities. The clip sheds light on educational inequalities, where certain groups gain exposure to advanced opportunities like tech company visits, while others might miss out on such experiences. This divide poses risks of educational inequity and echoes the necessity to bridge these gaps swiftly.


Rashad Bilal delves into AI validation and reinforcement learning, mentioning companies like Meta for their energy-efficient data centers, underscoring the significant, rapid development of AI technologies. With projections shifting, the hosts stress the importance of acquiring relevant skills over solely relying on traditional educational paths to secure financial stability in a tech-driven future.


The importance of entrepreneurship and investing is emphasized as foundational strategies for thriving in an AI-dominated world. Companies like Nvidia are highlighted for their substantial influence, akin to historical financial pillars, playing crucial roles in technological and economic stability.


Challenges surrounding diversity in tech hiring are candidly addressed, particularly the pressures black individuals face due to diversity initiatives. Gratitude is expressed to tech professionals and platforms that are actively informing communities about ongoing technological changes. The clip urges the necessity of teaching strategic AI tool usage to children and embracing advancements like AI and ChatGPT.


The conversation shifts to the significant lack of diversity within tech companies and the limited awareness among black communities about technological progress. Concerns are expressed over the dominance of Chinese and Indian talent in tech firms and the broader global influence of countries like China on social media platforms.


Emphasizing a strategic refocus on technology and entrepreneurship, the hosts call for a shift away from distractions such as celebrity gossip. The disparities in AI education between countries like the U.S. and China are highlighted, with mentions of Historical Black Colleges and Universities leading initiatives in AI education.


Wrapping up, the clip discusses legal complexities involving AI and robotics, touching on issues like liability and discrimination. The urgency with which corporations are embracing AI reflects the rapidly widening technological gap. The hosts urge viewers to stay informed and proactive to ensure their inclusion in a tech-forward future.


Join us as we explore these critical topics and their far-reaching implications. Your understanding and engagement are key in navigating and thriving in this tech-driven era.


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