208. Humayun Reconquers India

3 Dec 2024 · 52 min

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Podcast Episode Summary: Empire - Episode 208: Humayun Reconquers India

Episode Overview In this episode, hosts William Dalrymple and Anita Anand explore the dramatic and lesser-known story of Humayun, the second Mughal emperor, who after being exiled from India, embarks on a quest to reclaim his throne from Sher Shah and confront his treacherous brothers.

Key Themes and Discussions

Humayun's Exile and Early Challenges

  • Humayun faces a low point in his life after being kicked out of India by Sher Shah, who usurped his throne.
  • Despite adversity, he remains hopeful, finding solace in love with his wife, Hamida Begum, and his passion for learning, poetry, and astrology.
  • The episode opens with a reflection on Humayun's character, suggesting he is more complex than commonly portrayed.

The Importance of Humayun's Library

  • Humayun carries his library with him on camels, emphasizing his love for literature and knowledge even in exile.
  • His library serves as a symbol of his commitment to culture and learning amidst his struggles.

The Quest for Support

  • Humayun seeks refuge in Iran and the backing of the Safavid Empire against Sher Shah.
  • His relationship with Shah Tamas of Persia is explored, highlighting the complexities of political alliances and religious affiliations (Sunni vs. Shia).

Reconquering India

  • Humayun's military strategy involves leveraging the support of Persian cavalry, culminating in victories in Kandahar and Kabul.
  • The episode describes the strained dynamics with his brothers, particularly Kamran and Asghari, and the emotional impact of familial loyalty and betrayal.

The Return to Power

  • Humayun's return to India is marked by significant battles, including his confrontation with Kamran, who he ultimately forgives multiple times.
  • The episode also touches on the personal loss of his loyal brother, Hindal, during conflicts, showcasing the emotional weight of leadership.

Humayun's Legacy

  • Humayun's reign is contrasted with the future aspirations of his son, Akbar, who becomes emperor at a young age after Humayun's tragic death.
  • The episode concludes with reflections on how Humayun's ideas and architectural vision influenced Mughal architecture, particularly evident in Humayun's Tomb, which sets the stage for the Taj Mahal.

Key Takeaways

  • Humayun's character is depicted as both a dreamer and a capable leader, whose personal and political struggles resonate deeply.
  • The significance of cultural practices and knowledge within the Mughal Empire is emphasized throughout the episode.
  • Humayun’s journey illustrates the complexities of power, loyalty, and the cyclical nature of history in empires.
  • His tragic death leads to the ascension of Akbar, who is left with the weight of expectations and the legacy of his father's ambitions.

Conclusion This episode of *Empire* captures the intricate tale of Humayun’s resilience and ambition, drawing connections between personal tribulations and the broader narrative of imperial history. The rich discussions between Dalrymple and Anand not only recount historical events but also reflect on their lasting impact on the world today.

Join the next episode as they shift focus to Akbar, the young emperor who inherits the crown amidst a legacy of struggle and triumph.

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0:29Hello and welcome to Empire with me, Anita Arnans. And me, William Drupal. So just in the last episode, we left you at a low point in the story of Hamayo, first son. And he is the man who has made a promise to his father that no matter how shitty his brothers are, he's not going to kill them. And this is going to be a very great difficulty for him. He's in the deserts of Sin. He's at his lowest point. But then he discovers love. He finds his wife far away from everything that he knows in exile. but his heart is full. And he's also got this rather wonderful enemy in the form of Sher Shah, the lion king, if you like, if you translate it, who has usurped everything that his father fought for and his throne in India and established his own empire there instead.

1:18Now, just to pick up on this, this is not such a well-known story as some of the other moguls because Hamayu is so often overlooked in the pantheon, isn't he? He is. And there's been a lot of interesting new work on Humayun. We've always thought of Humayun as this completely hopeless, hippy-dippy sort of would-be mystic who's always sort of shooting arrows in the air to make predictions about the future. But he's also sort of brilliant and erudite and far more sort of bookish and fascinating and complicated than I think anyone guessed before. And the thing I like best about him is that even now when he's in exile in sin, the world he's abandoned, the new country that he's conquered is gone.

2:04The new city he's been planning, Dean Panna, is gone. His fantastic palaces, including a mystic palace in Agra that he's just built. All that is behind him. But he's got the thing that matters most to him, which is his two library camels. A library camel? How marvellous. We all need a library camel on Empire Pond. This is the precursor to the mobile library that goes to distant places, is it? I mean, what? He really literally had two camels laden with books. Laden with books. And there's a lovely moment when, at the lowest point of his life, later, we will come across, when he suffers a defeat.

2:39We won't say any more than that at this stage, because I wouldn't like to… No, because it's not like you at all. That's not you. I wouldn't ever spoil the ending. but there's this wonderful moment when a week later when finally he finally succeeds the camels come back as sort of homing pigeons and find him and he gets all his books back he's also rather a good poet which i don't think any of us had had realized before oh really because his father was deeply critical of his writing wasn't he his dad was like one of those withering indian dads who just you know you bring home an essay with an a on it and he goes well the syntax was poor i've got for you here, a little love poem he wrote.

3:18It's not clear whether this is directed at his new 14-year-old wife who's just given birth to Akbar, Hamida Begum, or whether for someone of a completely different sex and age, but here it is. My fate has fallen with a moon-faced beauty, and fire has fallen into my heart. My house was brightened with the face of my beloved. From the moon-faced beauty has fallen a ray. In every direction my heart, oh life, draws me since my heart has fallen to become captive to this attractor of hearts. The object of my heart I shall seize now with exhilaration has fallen into my hand. Do not seek reason and wit in me when Humayun has fallen into senselessness.

4:02And that, sadly, is a state that he seems to have been in quite a lot of his life. He's often in senselessness. Do you know, I'm quite interested, you know, so he's writing poetry again. He's got love in his life, clearly, whether it's with his wife or somebody else, we're not entirely sure, but there's love. in his heart. But he has very little else. I mean, his pockets are empty. So when he meets people along the way, because, you know, if you want to try and regain your kingdom, I'm sure that's in his mind that, you know, he's been reduced to nothing. But what does he have to offer? If he wants to make allegiances, what does he have to woo, if you like, other leaders?

4:36Well, I think this is one of the reasons why he loves Hamidah Begum as he does and why Akbar in due course also will absorb his heart because both of them are associated with this moment when he had nothing and they came to him. Hamidah Begum sees him in Sindh when he's lost everything. And at this lowest moment in winter in Sindh, when he's trying to cross some mountains towards Afghanistan, they get stuck in the snow and they get separated from their supplies. and he has to kill one of the horses and cook it in a helmet of one of his guards. So that is absolutely the lowest of the low. You know, if you needed any more proof, that is living like a, not just like a nomad, but like a beggar.

5:20But again, at this moment, even when he is in extremis, he's got with him a painter. We know there's a moment when a bird turns up and he loves the bird and he tells the painter to paint it. And there's just this one little note in Gulbadan, his sister's account of this life. But it shows that even when he's down to eating the horse flesh of his guards, he doesn't want to be anywhere without a mogul painter. He's still writing poetry. He's got his two library camels. And also, there's lovely details. Eber Koch has found that one of his inventions was he had this sort of movable palace, which was quite a large and sort of substantial building, which could be sort of IKEA'd down and put in a crate and then erected.

6:06It was far more than a normal tent. And he also had this sort of other very substantial zodiac tent called the 12 Signs Tent. And I think these things are probably traveling with him. So what is a Zodiac tent? What does that mean? What even is that? Well, one of the things that always makes historians fascinated by the Mughals is that they break stereotype and they embrace the Hindu ideas of the India they come to. And it's always said that traditionally the Akbar is the first to do this. But it seems that Humayun, although he's born in Afghanistan and comes as a young man to India, that he immediately engages with Indian mystics and Indian astronomers and astrologers, that his very complicated ideas about wearing different colors on different days of the week actually comes as much from Hindu ideas as it does from Muslim ones.

7:04And among these ideas that he has, I think he's traveling with Hindu astrologers when he's on his way to Iran again, despite everything. Oh, I see. So there's a tent full of those guys. It's a mobile version. Remember I talked about his sort of twister carpet when he rolls a dice and goes into different phases of the moons and all sorts of complicated astronomical stuff. Yes, postures of heavenly direction. Exactly. That's very nicely put, actually. It's a cross between a sort of Christmas party game and a mystical practice. I just had a thought about this man because he's much more interesting than I thought he was before we started this.

7:42My first knowledge of Hamayu was in Delhi the first time I went. And there were these roundabouts with sort of very overgrown and you'd suddenly see a little bit of a ruin. And my cousin, I was like, what is that? That looks very old. And she said, oh, that's nothing. It's just the tomb of Hamayu. That wasn't even correct. It was the tumour for Maya's mother. I have a friend that restored it. When they got up to the roof, they found that the previous group of restorers on the quiet, rather than putting in proper roof tiles, had cut Bata flip-flops and put them onto the roof, confident that no one would make the effort to go up and check their work.

8:17Can I just tell people about a flip-flop? So anyone who's got any connection with India will know, but they are the ubiquitous flip-flop of everybody in India. They're just these rubber things, plastic thongs and rubber on the bottom. And they had used that as shingle. I think that's rather marvellous. Okay, so can I just ask, his situation obviously is not great, but he's got the added problem, which we discussed just in the last episode, in that he's got these brothers, Kamran, Hindor, and Asghari, who are the most disloyal, awful people that he's not allowed to kill. So what are they up to?

8:54Well, he's on his knees, as it were, and popping in and out of the Zodiac tent for some solace. What are they doing? So Kamran has seized Kabul. He was originally sent there as a governor, but now he's just ruling it as the Lord. He gives absolutely no help to him. And in fact, he sends the other brother, Asghari, to cut him off when he works out what Humayun's plan is, which is to go all the way through Sindh to Iran and to appeal for help to the Safavids of Isfahan, which is, of course, what his father did. Babur did the same thing in extremists when they were trying to recapture Samarkand. And Babur fell out with all the people of Samarkand because he converted to Shia Islam.

9:38So I think the other brothers realized that this is Humayun's plot, that he's going to go and try and offer to convert in order to get support to win India back. And Asghari tries to cut him off, but he doesn't do it. But it's as he's fleeing to Iran that there is one of the most tragic stories about quite how hopeless Humayun is. It is actually probably the most hopeless thing he does in all his very erudite, brilliant, but hopeless life. and the one thing that he has successfully brought away other than his sort of fancy zodiac carpet and tent and the painter and all the other camel library let's not forget the camel library and the camel library the one thing of value and importance that can really change his situation is he's brought a bag of enormous indian diamonds all the best diamonds that babo won including this famous diamond called the Babur diamond that many experts believe is the Koh-i-Noor.

10:39It's not proven, it's not provable really, but it's a whopper. Whether it is or is not the Koh-i-Noor sitting in the Tower of London at this moment, there is an enormous diamond with Humayun as he flees. And one morning when he gets up on his way to Iran, about to cross the border, He goes to the riverbank to do his ablutions as his servant records. And he does his business, gets back on his horse and gallops away. And it's only when he's about sort of half a mile off that his servant realizes. I feel a little lighter. I feel a little lighter than when I got, what is it that I, hang on, it's not keys.

11:20I've got my keys. I've got my specs. What is it that I, oh. And it's not his mobile phone. No, he left every single one of the diamonds on the riverbank. and just walked off. You've got to love a man that can do that. You do, but you've also got to maybe question that because in the story of Koh-I-Noor, which we have told and written a book about, there are other tales of people who have mislaid the diamonds supposedly and then suddenly found them in a waistcoat in a drawer because they threw them in the dirty laundry. I mean, do we believe this story? Are these from reputable sources? So we do because he then rewards the servant who gives it back to him, who's called Juha.

11:58He's very generous, Humayun. And not only, can you remember in the last episode, we had that story of the water man who blows up his buffalo hide and uses it as a rubber ring to paddle Humayun to safety when he's driven into a river. So just like he rewards him, he rewards Juha. And Juha in due course becomes such a senior figure, he actually writes his own memoir where he tells this story. And he says, as the emperor was about to remount his horse, I saw a green flowered purse lying on the ground and a pen case by the side of it. And I rode up after him. And as soon as I'd overtaken him, I presented them.

12:35When his majesty saw these articles, he was amazed and astonished and said, oh, my boy, you have done me the greatest possible favor. If these have been lost, I should have been subject to the meanness of this Persian monarch. In future, please take care of him. So he gives them to this boy to look after on the basis that he's more reliable. this young page boy is given all these things. And I think we should continue with this story because in due course, it absolutely is the diamonds which save Humayun. Shah Tamas, who we've dealt with in earlier episodes of the Empire Pod, is a grumpy religious extremist.

13:12We did him, for those who maybe want to go and revisit, in our Persian series. And initially, when Humayun arrives in Persia, he's given a very lukewarm welcome because these guys, the thing that matters most to the Safavids is, are you Sunni or Shia? They are this minority, the Shia, and they regard all Sunnis with enormous suspicion. And Humayun is a Sunni. So initially, he doesn't get a very warm welcome. And the thing that turns it around is the gift of this enormous diamond, the Babur diamond. And we read in Johar's account, we remained several days encamped on the Shah's hunting grounds, during which time his majesty ordered his diamonds and rubies to be brought to him.

13:56And having selected the largest diamond, placed it in a mother-of-pearl box. He then added several other diamonds and rubies, and having placed them in a tray, gave them to the charge of Byron Begg to present to the Persian monarch with the message that they were brought from Hindustan purposely for his majesty. When Shatam Asp saw these precious stones, he was astonished, and he sent for his jeweller to value them. The jewellers declared that they were above all price, on which the Persians signified his acceptance to help Umayyad. So this thing that he just left by the riverbank does literally turn his fortunes around.

14:36Well, I mean, it really does, because when, again, I'm doing a Dalrymple, but let's just say he does return to India. If he were. If he were to return to India. I mean, having a Persian cavalry with you, which is one of the best cavalries in the world, is not a hindrance. Let's put it that way. Okay. But Shah Thomas, as we have described in our previous Persian series, is a really grumpy, angry, difficult to get on with man. So how do these two, you know, Hippie Dippie, Humayu, who sounds absolutely sweet. A bit hopeless, yeah. Ever so slightly hopeless. How do they get on? Because does he have to also embrace the religion of Tomas and say, look, you know what?

15:21I know I am a Sunni, but I want your help. So I'm willing to think about shiaism. I'm quite interested in shiaism. How far does he have to go and how much is Tomas convinced by him? This is exactly the game he has to play. He knows what happened to his father, Babur, when he embraced Shia Islam or certainly made an outward appearance of having embraced it. Well, everyone turned against him and said, you're a treacherous man we can't follow. Exactly. But he now is in a situation where he really does have no option. And so there is this month when the two of them travel through Iran and they travel through all the nicest places.

15:58I mean, when I have traveled through Iran, if I had to choose my favorite places, he goes to Persepolis, which at this stage of history was believed by the Persians to have been built by the hero Jamshid. He goes to another building we've talked about also in our Persian series, the extraordinary mausoleum of the Mongol Khan Uljetu at Sultania, which is definitely the seed which stays in Humayun's mind. And when he's planning his own tomb, as we now know he did, It's partly modeled on Sultania. So he's passing through all these places and he basically he gets it right. He makes enough of a show of interest in Shia Islam and certainly tells Shil's…

16:43Striking his beard. I'm fascinated by this without saying I'm actually converting to this. This is just fascinating. So certainly Shah Tamas is persuaded that he's serious. And having made whatever private promise he did to, he gets given at the end of this long tour of places like Tabriz and Ardebil and all these gorgeous places in Iran that he visits. He's given 12 ,000 Persian cavalry to go and retake Kandahar. And so this is the beginning of the comeback. And Humayun has been now for whatever it is, 18 months on the run, ever since he lost the battle near Kanoj and has been fleeing ever westwards into Persia.

17:25Now, for the first time, can begin to head eastwards back to India. Am I remembering it rightly that he also, and maybe this forges the relationship further, does he have to leave his son, Akbar, his newly minted son, in the Persian care as well? I mean, is that part of the deal? Not the Persian care, no. He's ended up with Askari, who's the least devious of the uncles. And the young Akbar, who's now, whatever he is, two years old or something, a toddler, is sitting in the Balahisar in Kabul, hoping that his dad may come and his fortunes will change. And this begins at this moment with the Persian cavalry behind him.

18:03He takes Kandahar and defeats Asghari and begins to look towards his first major step to reclaiming India, which is to try and capture Kabul. And in Kabul is the other brother, Kamran, who has proven himself to be a snake at every possible turn, every possible moment that And he could have been a good brother. He has been the worst, the absolute pits of brotherhood. So, I mean, with this advancing army that has already been successful in Kandahar, no small thing. So what does Kamran do? When he sees the dust being kicked up by this cavalry of, you know, crack Persian cavalrymen, does he stand or does he run?

18:46So, no, there's a battle and Hormayn wins. Hormayn is not a bad general, although he does lose a couple, including the famous one to Cher Shah. overwhelmingly in his life he's a man who wins the battles that he sets out towards so despite being the hippy dippy mystic despite being the bookish poet and the guy with you know he's always dreaming up mad inventions of floating gardens and collapsible palaces and ikea tents and all this sort of thing he is actually like all the timurids he's an amazing battlefield commander and he moves against kamran in kabul and he leaves kandahar in the hands of his great ally Byram Khan.

19:25And he gives his household and his baggage to his now 16-year-old wife, Hamida Begum. She's getting on a bit. Yep. She's cracking on a bit. Yes. And he sets off with his troops for Kabul. And on the way, they had the good luck to meet with a caravan of horse traders who'd just come from India and acquired Persian horses. and they offer to support Humayun's campaign by supplying him with a thousand horses against just a promissory note. So they're persuaded to give them all these new horses for the cavalry. And there is a battle on the outskirts of Kabul and quite a lot of Kamran's men just go over to Humayun because I think everyone always regards him as a good egg.

20:09Everyone knows that this guy is the true heir of Babu, that he's a decent man. And they also know that Qamran is a slippery fox. There's a real issue of loyalty in what you think of a man. And if you see a man betray his brother, that is not good propaganda. No matter what the ruler has done, people don't forgive it very easily. And that certainly seems to be the case when people keep joining him. Does Qamran run away after losing the battle? After losing the battle, Qamran flees off to Sindh, the same place that Humayun was walking through. Eating his camel in a helmet. Eating his horse in a helmet, I should say.

20:47And Humayun enters Kabul without having to fight any more battles on the 17th of November, 1545. And he's acclaimed by the population. Everyone comes out and cheers. And at that moment, he sees his son Akbar for the first time in two years. He's just left this little baby in a swaddling clothes and now it's a little two-year-old running around. Which I would suggest is quite irresponsible as a parent to do that. But, okay, look, let's take a break here because it looks like all will be well and Hamayo will live happily ever after. Join us after the break because of course it's not going to be that.

21:21Of course it's not.

21:26Welcome back. So, just before the break, we left you with success in Kandahar, success in Kabul. Bit by bit, Hamayo is claiming back territory from his treacherous brothers. And he's got his little boy back now as well, who's now a toddler who he last left with a really murderous and treacherous brother as a baby. And everything is looking good. And what I love about Hamai, William, and he reminds me a bit of you, is he has a huge success and then he kind of does a gap yard again because he loves his tours and parties. He does. He likes both those things. So, the couple turns into party central after this victory.

21:59What kind of thing does he do? I mean, it's wonderful. I mean, the wrestling matches and planting are particularly cute here. So what is it like? He likes all that sort of thing. And he likes to combine a bit of wrestling with taking quite a lot of opium. So the two... Oh my God. It's like drunken boxing. And it's over this period that it's realized, because they try to educate Akbar at this point. Akbar's gone slightly wild, I think. He's been out toddling around watching all these warriors. and he has far more interest in war and battles than he does in his books as a young kid. And they try and teach him to read and he can't.

22:40And he remains bizarrely illiterate, uniquely among the Mughal emperors for his whole life. This is so mad. He's basically dyslexic, I think, in modern terms. Well, Ebbe Koch as well has sort of said that she thinks he may be dyslexic. But you have to understand that if you've got tutors who are faced with this slightly wild boy who's finding it very hard to read, that bears absolutely no resemblance to the legacy of Akbar, who we're going to cover in an episode all of his own, who is known as one of the most learned, one of the most voracious hunters of truth of the entire Mughal dynasty. But does this without ever being able to read or read properly?

23:21I think it's crackers. Isn't that amazing? And the chroniclers of the time, or certainly Abul Faisal, who is the biographer of Akbar later in his life, writes that his majesty was not destined for the formal knowledge of the world. And instead, he shows great promise as a huntsman, as a kind of young warrior. He's doing all the right things. And he's sitting there with his little baby sword and everything else. But they sack a couple of these old poor old mullahs who are brought in to try and teach him. the first teacher who's called Mullah Zadda Mullah Issam al-Din Ibrahim, who's a very sort of grand and great scholar, is sacked and accused of being more interested in flying pigeons than teaching the emperor, the future emperor.

24:04But the subsequent tutors do know better. Can I do a little bit of pop psychology? I mean, you can't stop me even if you wanted to, you know I'm on one now. But I think that these formative years are so telling because Akbar will grow up to be a great esthete. He will treasure things that he can see and things that he can hear. He's going to be more tolerant than any who have come before him. Because look, they may have fired the teachers, but you can guarantee that that poor little boy who's not reading the Quran as he should, or not reading the books is going to get frequent beatings for not doing his work and not concentrating.

24:41And I think that remoulds a man, actually. I'll just end by reading two little lines by Abul Faisal. He says, his majesty was not receptive to lines scribbled by a pen. God did not desire that his special protege be sullied with formal knowledge. And instead, his majesty turned to pigeon flying, dog racing and hunting. Well, why wouldn't he? I mean, it's the equivalent of going to play football around the back with your mates. Let's get back to the dad though. So he's sort of done his tour. He's had his opium wrestling matches. Everybody's had a massive party. Carball has been very, very jolly with pink blooming Judas trees and, you know, discolour and all sorts of wonderment that he brings.

25:23And there's one other good omen, which is an important thing, which we have many pictures of. It seemed to be, I mean, it's a weird moment to us, but it was clearly considered very significant at the time. Humayun, even in his lowest moments, had a pet cockerel. And he clearly didn't eat the pet cockerel when he had the option to let the horse instead. And there's a moment when he hears that Kamran is coming for him again. The wicked brother has gathered an army in Sindh and is marching on Kabul. And at that moment, when this news comes, the pet cockerel allegedly flies onto his shoulders and crows.

26:02So Humayun takes this as a moment that he's definitely going to win. And they set off together. I'm looking at a picture of it. I'm looking at a picture of it Right now, a snowy white cockerel on his shoulder and all of his retinue sort of looking in wonder. Behold the cock on your shoulder, they say. And this is suddenly, you know, this is now going to be the thing that grants him victory. Oh, that's amazing. So magic cockerel, as you say, there are a few depictions of the magic white cockerel. Okay, so what is Kamran doing? He's not giving up. He's a scheming bastard, as we've established before.

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26:35Ski and Kamran does indeed attack and is again defeated. And he's captured by Humayun, who, to the horror of his courtiers, he then forgives for the third time. And both brothers pour with tears. But inevitably, of course, Kamran being the little shit that he is, within a month has fled the palace and is raising hell again. And this time, there's a battle called the Battle of Kipchak, and Humayun loses it initially. But what about the cock? What happened there? How could this happen? Clearly disappeared. So why is he defeated? How is he defeated there? So there's this very, again, this sudden moment in 1551.

27:20It looks again as if Humayun's fortunes have given up on him. And he gets wounded in this battle. and it's a very bloody wound. And he throws off his bloody turban, or his bloody turban at least falls off maybe. And it's found and brought to Kamran, who thinks that Humayun is dead. And this means that Kamran no longer keeps up his guard. And shortly afterwards, Humayun comes back, defeats Kamran for the last time. And there's no hugs this time. So can I just add to that? because not only when he finds the blood-soaked clothes, does he think, oh good, my brother's dead, the one I hugged and promised to love and cherish just five minutes ago.

28:01He's dead, hooray. But he then sort of, not only does he let his guard down, but he rushes back to Kabul to take the young Prince Akbar because if he has Akbar, there's no other claimant who can come to the throne. So, he is a terrible brother, but he's also a dreadful uncle as well, this man. Okay, so I just want everyone to feel better about what happened. So when he's defeated the second time, please tell me he's not hugged again. He's not hugged again. And this time, and this is interesting, that before Humayun can forgive him, because he's made this formal vow to his dad that he obviously doesn't want to break despite everything.

28:37I think his army sees what's coming and Kamran is blinded by the troops who've had enough. Right, they take his eyes. They take his eyes out and Humayun doesn't kill him. Again, very honourably, he doesn't kill it, but he sends the blind Kamran off to Mecca on a pilgrimage. So that's Kamran, eyeless and without much sympathy from the audience. But what about little Hindle? So Hindle was the baby of Barbara, the one that Barbara on his deathbed says, I want to see Hindle, please bring me Hindle. You know, the real apple of his father's eye, even though Himayu is the one who becomes emperor. I mean, where are his loyalties and what's he up to in all this time?

29:16So Hindle has finally stayed loyal to Humayun and he is always Humayun's favourite brother. And in that war, that final war between Kamran and Humayun, there's a moment when Kamran's forces attack Humayun's camp at night. And Humayun is actually not there, but Hindle is and he's killed. Oh, he loses his baby brother, the only brother who was loyal. Yep. And him being a really sort of emotional cove, this would have been totally devastating for him, I think this was devastating. And we have, again, pictures of this in the miniatures. And this is one of the sort of sad moments of Humayun's life.

29:53But shortly afterwards, the missing library camels turn up. And again... Oh, phew, because they'd been playing on my mind. Library camels have disappeared after the Battle of Kipchak and they turn up with his entire library, which includes all Babur's favourite books too. And I think the original manuscript of the Babur Nama is on these library camels at this point. Right. without which we'd have lost the greatest autobiography written in this whole Islamic world ever, arguably. The Babu Nama is the great masterpiece. So anyway, the library capitals turned out. Well, I'm glad about that because, you know, he needs something to read.

30:29And he's also got eyes to read them. Sorry, that's too soon. It's too soon to make jokes, eye jokes. But, you know, I don't like Kamran. So Kamran's been dispatched off to Mecca. He has won battles. He's lost Hindle, but he, you know, he's winning. Does he then think of India? because look, he's been out of India. He's been drop kicked out of India since 1543. He basically hasn't had any communication with India. It's been, you know, Sher Shah has made sure that he has no foothold. And, you know, he's lost to Sher Shah. So he's a little bit battle shy, I would have thought of facing up to this man again.

31:02Do things change? Not only that, Sher Shah has built a sort of Maginot line between Kabul and India. And I've stayed in one of these fortresses. And it is magnificent. It's the fort of Rotas, which is a sort of day's journey westwards from Lahore. And it's one of the greatest of all the fortresses of this time. It's in the middle of nowhere, so it's never been knocked down or had its walls sort of claimed for later projects. And when I was in my 20s, I spent a night within the walls there. I somehow managed to get the Pakistan Archaeological Survey. And this was built specifically to stop Humayun coming back to India.

31:43It was meant to be this impregnable fortress that you couldn't possibly go round or ignore. But in quick succession, at this point, Sher Shah and his son both die. And this Afghan empire, which had been dominating India all the time that Humayun is in exile suddenly is thrown into chaos and the Magino line of Rotas is abandoned. So indeed, Humayun thinks this is the moment I've been waiting for. Not unreasonably, not unreasonably, he thinks that, you know, the drawbridge is down. How quickly then does that campaign start? So he now no longer needs the help of the Persians. He's got enough supporters in Kabul and in Kandahar and he hasn't got his brothers...

32:32Trying to kill him at every turn. Every turn. So this is his great moment of triumph. And in 1554, he mounts his great attempt to retake his lost kingdom in India. And this time he chooses the best month for it. It's mid-November, around this sort of time of year, which in the days before pollution used to be the most gorgeous time here in Delhi, where I'm speaking from. but looking out onto post-Diwali terrible pollution outside. I can't tell you how miserable it is at the moment. And he moves towards India and he actually puts the 12-year-old Akbar, 12-year-old, in charge of the vanguard of the army.

33:15This is just unthinkable. A woman came up to me and said, I heard you talking about your 14-year-old and talking about people leading battles. And I totally feel your pain. I've got one like that. This guy is 12. and basically strapped to a horse and sent in front of an army to charge. And I think he's good at it. This is what Akbar, he's not good at reading and writing. He is good at leading the vanguard of an army. And Humayun chooses to go down the Kabul River, which is lovely. He loves boats and he's always been designing these boat palaces and boat gardens and boat bridges. So he sends Akbar on horse and he comes down the Kabul River punting down the river.

33:58It's a wonderful river. I've driven along it. And in the 2nd of February, 1555, he reaches Lahore, and there's another battle, and he defeats the last of Sher Shah's line, who's pulled out his troops and lined them up along the plains just outside the walls of Lahore. And there's another month of brutal fighting. And And eventually, on the 23rd of July, 1555, Humayans enters Delhi and assumes the throne in the citadel, which he'd just begun when he was kicked out, Dinpada, which is now called Piranakila. Piranakila meaning the old fort, very simply the old fort. Yep. And he then gets his chance to continue all the building that he hadn't built before.

34:44and the first thing of course he needs being humane is he needs a library it was either that or a zodiac chicken i mean it was one of those two i didn't know which way you were going to swerve in the end there it was going to be you know planetary poultry or some books on a camel okay so it's books right and where does he get his books from does he send out across the realms and send me your send me your books this time the the library camels are not lost. And they walk into Piranha Kila, presumably, in procession. And the Shemandal is erected pretty quickly. And this is going to be very important because we're going to have to come back to the Shemandal in less happy moments in a while.

35:24But this is the moment that Humayun has been saving up for. He didn't lose the faith. He didn't give up. At one point, he thought he might just go off to Mecca and throw the whole thing in. And we get in the very brief period now that Humayun still has to rule a wonderful taste of what he could have been if all this accidents and his brothers didn't betray him and all these terrible things didn't happen to him. So the first thing that happens is he imports Persian painters. And this is a very, very important moment because it's basically the moment when the Mughal military tradition, at the moment, those of you who are in London can go and visit this extraordinary, absolutely wonderful Mughal exhibition at the V &A.

36:08And there you see some of the greatest Islamic paintings ever produced. By people like Bichita and stuff. I mean, I was saying the name correctly. Yeah, you're saying it exactly right. So Bichita is, just to give you some context, what would you call him? The da Vinci of his day? You know, he is the painter, the miniaturist of his day. So Bichita is absolutely one of the greatest of all Mughal paintings. And he features wonderfully in the V &A Mughal show, which everyone should go and see. But the two painters who kickstart this are the two greatest painters from Persia at the time. And their names are Mir Saeed Ali and Khwajad Abad al-Samad.

36:47And they arrive just before Humayun sets off for Delhi in Kabul, and they follow him to Delhi. And they set up in Delhi this first Mughal atelier. And what seems to happen, art historians think, is that they train up Jain painters from Gujarat because there are signs in the very early Mughal miniatures, particularly the Hamza Nama, which is commissioned by the young Akbar shortly after this, signs that there are painters from the Gujarati Jain painting tradition, but they're studying under the Persians. And this, again, is very much what we're going to see in the Mughal episodes which follow. It's this amazing fusion that we get of the color and the brightness and the inventiveness of Indian painting, meeting the formality and precision of the Persian style.

37:45Yeah, and there is something very, very new happening. You're quite right, because there is a candor about this. And the only way I can sort of put this is he is a TikToker before TikTok. Because what the court paintings do is they chronicle even, you know, quite tender minutiae moments of Hamayo's life. So you've got, you know, Hamayo and Hamida being reunited with Akbar. Somebody wasn't there at the time, but they painted it, you know, a little boy running to his parents. There's another wonderful miniature, it's one of my favourites, which is Akbar wrestling with his cousins for a drum on the floor.

38:16And he's clearly like a toddler. Isn't it beautiful? It's a gorgeous picture. I know that one. They're basically brawling with each other, these two little kids, while Hamayo is sort of looking at you kids in the background. But this is not courtly painting as it has been known before. He is chronicling and telegraphing bits of life that we haven't been privy to. and it's rather touching and marvellous actually. It is and there's so much that is new that's happening in this painting at this time. You're getting a breaking down of the formality that's there in Persian painting. You've always had under the best of Timurid and Persian painting an extraordinary love of humanity and the recorded moment exactly like you're saying but it's often quite sort of hidebound and within these very tight boundaries, very formalised.

39:07mogul painting, somehow the straps are loosened. There's a greater humanity and a greater interest in individual. There's wit and there's amusement. You've got a man watching his kid beating up another kid and they're only little toddlers. It's not very violent. It's just two little boys squabbling on the floor and it looks more human than courtly, which is kind of sweet. And this is the moment now when Humayun can indulge all his fantasies about floating palaces, his floating market gardens, floating gardens, can really develop all his occult ideas. Remember that everyone in the world, including all over the West, believes still at this point in history that we are governed by the stars.

39:47And it is a sign of Humayun's learning rather than a sign of his gullibility, that he has this interest in the occult. And what is fascinating is he brings into Mughal court custom a whole series of Hindu practices which will continue in Mughal court tradition, such as the weighing of the emperor. This is one of the most common pictures you see in Mughal miniature. The Mughal emperor gets onto a pair of scales, and he's weighed against gold, which is then distributed to the poor. I think not just gold, against gold, coral, and pearls, is it? Anyway, there's this whole sort of tradition. Now, everyone used to think that was started by Akbar, but we've now found evidence that, in fact, it's Humayun who introduces this practice from the Hindu kings.

40:37And he also has this sort of idea of himself as a sun king. He plays tricks with light at court. The court language talks about him as a sun king, very much in the same manner that the French will use for Louis XIV, but with a whole lot of, I think, Zoroastrian ideas behind it. It's all very complex. Ebba Koch writes absolutely beautifully about this. And then there's one other extraordinary moment when Humayun meets at this point one of the other most extraordinary men of the age, who is a shipwrecked Ottoman admiral called Sidi Ali Reis. And Sidi Ali Reis, as a measure of the kind of inquisitiveness of people's minds at this time, has discovered from captured Western sailors in the Ottoman realms that there has been a discovery of a new continent called America.

41:34It's amazing. This is so early as well in history. And Sidi Ali Reis has interviewed these sailors. He's brought them out of whatever terrible galley they've been cast into. And he honors them and they reveal to him the details of their expeditions. And Sidi Ali Reis and these sailors construct between them the first map of America made in a Muslim country. And bizarrely, this guy is shipwrecked off the coast of Gujarat and comes to Humayun's court at this point. So you can imagine these two sort of bookish, brilliant men meeting at the Shere Mandel. Who've been through lots. You know what? Siddi Ali Reyes' writing is so completely delightful because he talks about such things as, you know, sort of having a whale sailing towards your ship at great speed and the water turning grey or trying to get around whirlpools.

42:28I mean, it's a real boy's own adventure. And you can just imagine the tales that he's spinning to Himai, who's eating up every single word of these real adventures that he's had on the ocean. Do you remember our wonderful guest, Mark Baer, who came on the pod to talk about Suleiman the Magnificent? He opens his book on the Ottomans in the introduction with the story of the time when, after I think five years in the Topkapi archives, He befriended the librarians enough and they got out the Said Ali Rees map of America, which also has bizarrely bits of the coast of Antarctica, I think. There's a whole lot of speculation on how this shoreline of Antarctica appears on this map too.

43:11Anyway, it's one of the extraordinary moments. You can just imagine him and Humayun. So everything is back together. Humayun is busy planning his mystic palaces. He's adopting Hindu ideas like weighing the emperor. He's reading and trying to introduce into his court the different colors for the different stars at the different times and stations of the planets. He's playing this bizarre twister. And then one day he climbs to the top of the newly made Shermandal, his library in the center of the Piranha Kila. And he's wearing one of his fancy long gowns that he wears now, his emperor and back in charge of his palace.

43:55And at that moment, the call to prayer comes when he's just on the top step. and he turns a half step to go down the stairs again because he wants to go to the evening prayers and he trips on a step in the long gown. Some people say opium was involved, but there's actually no evidence for that. And he tumbles down the newly made, sharp, presumably... Freshly cut stone stairs. And he cracks his head. And it's not immediately clear that this is fatal. There's a deep wound in the temple. and blood has trickled from his ear. But he regains consciousness. I mean, he's not sort of out and gone. He wakes up again, doesn't he?

44:39Does he manage to talk to his son or dictate something to his son, doesn't he? Akbar is off hunting or something, I think, at this point, as Akbar often does. And he's only 13. So, I mean, let's just put dates on these guys. So, you know, Akbar, having just a year ago, led an army for his dad, is off hunting age 13. And Hamayo is really very young. I mean, by our standards, he's only 48. He's only 48 years old. But he opens his eyes. His head is crusted in blood, but he's not dead. He opens his eyes and he calls for a scribe because his son is off hunting. And he says, I want you to write a letter to my boy.

45:12And this letter survives. And it says, to our dearest and most precious son, beloved of fortune, and under the protective gaze of God, apple of my eye of the Sultanate and Caliphate, Jalaluddin Muhammad Akbar, know that near the afternoon prayer on friday the 11th of the current month we went up to the roof of the library which is being rebuilt and there we held interviews until the evening prayer when it was time for the evening prayer we were in a hurry to get down and we had gone a few steps down the stone staircase which contains 12 stairs when the call for prayer was given we wanted to sit down as we were in the act of sitting our royal foot caught in the hem of a fur coat and we rolled down to the bottom of the stairs.

46:00Divine protection preserved us, and aside from a slight bruising of the head and shoulder, there is no other pain. Thanks to God for the limitless favor it passed well and no injury was suffered, thank God. Our dear son should not allow himself to worry or suffer in any way, and he should be of easy mind. If any false report has arrived, he should not believe them, for through divine favor there is no cause for concern. Any condition that ensues will be reported on a daily basis. But he's fractured his skull. And he has a hemorrhage. He has an internal hemorrhage. His brain swells and he dies.

46:36So this little boy gets the letter. He thinks his father is okay. And then in an instant, when his father's eyes closed for the last time, his life has changed forever. A 13-year-old will be the new emperor of the Mughals. And pretty lost, although Humayu has left little blueprints for him to follow, which probably will be a comfort. Exactly that. And one of the things that's newly emerged from Ebokok's extraordinary reassessment of Humayun is that Humayun was the person who came up with the ideas for Humayun's tomb, which is a short distance from where I'm talking, five miles away from here in Delhi.

47:17And Humayun's tomb is three quarters of the way to the Taj Mahal. You can see all the ideas, which will become the most famous of all Mughal buildings, the most famous of all Islamic buildings, arguably the most beautiful building in the world. And it is Humayun's ideas that form that. And what's fascinating is that a lot of the ideas came from his travels in Afghanistan and Iran. If he hadn't had to lose the throne, if he hadn't had these terrible fortunes of crossing Sindh, nearly losing his diamonds, going to Persia, He'd never have seen Sultania. He'd never have seen the extraordinary buildings of Herat, which absolutely fascinate him as they did his father.

48:02And before he dies, he is coming up with plans which are realized in Humayun's tomb, which will create the building style for which the Mughals are best known. When you think of the Mughals, the thing you think of is not so much their political action or how they administered or their taxation system or any of the rest of it. It is the Taj Mahal. That is their achievement in a single building, this superbly beautiful, unbeaten glory of this white marble tomb. And three quarters of the idea of the Taj are there in Humayun's tomb. Oh, you can see it. You can see it. The outline. I mean, it's so familiar.

48:44It's in red brick rather than white marble. Exactly. But you can absolutely see it is a whisper of what is to come. That's a lovely way to leave it. Anyway, listen, join us next time when we discuss the reign of a scared little boy who starts off at the age of 13 and has some very big, but really remarkably underestimated shoes to fill. We talk about Emperor Akbar. Until the next time we meet, it's goodbye from me, Anita Arnon. And goodbye from me, William Durimple.

From the publisher

Kicked out of India, Humayun roams the desert as a nomad, accompanied by his young pregnant wife, his court poets, and his library camels. Sher Shah has taken his throne and the Mughal Empire seems as though it will end soon after it had begun. But Humayun does not give up, he seeks refuge in Iran and seeks the support of a Persian cavalry to overthrow Sher Shah in India, and Humayun’s own treacherous brothers in Afghanistan. All the while, the openminded leader continues to explore his curiosities in astrology, inventions, and design.

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