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Summary of Podcast Episode 310: The Origin of The Ashes & The Killer Cricket Scandal (Part 1)
Podcast Overview
- Title: Empire
- Description: A historical exploration of the rise and fall of empires, with a focus on how these events shaped global history. The hosts William Dalrymple and Anita Anand delve into revolutions, imperial wars, and the people who influenced these changes.
- Episode Focus: Interconnection between cricket and the British Empire, particularly the history of the Ashes and the notorious Bodyline controversy.
Key Themes and Discussions
- Cricket and Empire
- Cricket's history is deeply intertwined with the British Empire.
- The rivalry between England and Australia serves as a lens to examine imperial relationships.
- Upcoming episodes will cover cricket's influence in other former colonies such as India and the West Indies.
- The Ashes
- The Ashes originated in the 1880s, symbolizing a cricketing rivalry steeped in imperial context.
- The small terracotta urn, representing the Ashes, has become an iconic trophy with a rich narrative behind it.
- Historical Context
- The 1882 match where England lost to Australia was pivotal; it coincided with a time of British imperial expansion and political change.
- England's defeat is framed as a national tragedy, leading to the creation of the "Ashes" concept.
- Characters in Cricket History
- Don Bradman: Regarded as one of the greatest cricketers, his average of 99.94 in Test cricket is unmatched.
- WG Grace: A significant figure in cricket with a flamboyant personality, known for his marketing savvy and influence on the game.
- Fred Spofforth: An Australian bowler instrumental in the infamous 1882 match who demonstrated remarkable skills under pressure.
- The Bodyline Scandal
- Introduced in the 1932-33 Ashes series, Jardine's "Bodyline" tactic aimed at targeting Bradman’s weaknesses led to outrage and a diplomatic crisis.
- This tactic highlighted the tensions between the two nations, with Australia viewing it as unsportsmanlike and a threat to player safety.
- Class Divides in Cricket
- The podcast discusses the class distinctions between English amateurs and professionals, highlighting how these divisions shaped team dynamics and performance.
- Australia's approach to team selection was more meritocratic, in contrast to England's class-based system.
Key Takeaways
- The narrative of cricket serves as a microcosm of imperial history, with matches reflecting larger political and social dynamics.
- The Ashes symbolize not just a sporting rivalry, but also the evolving relationships between former colonies and the British Empire.
- Cricket’s legacy is marked by both its unifying spirit and its capacity for conflict, as seen in the Bodyline controversy.
Conclusion This episode sets the stage for a deeper exploration of cricket's role in shaping national identities and imperial legacies. The discussion will continue in future episodes, particularly focusing on cricket in India and its implications for the post-colonial era.
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Additional Information
- Hosts: Anita Anand and William Dalrymple
- Guest: Tim Wigmore, author of *Test Cricket: A History*
- Listen to More: For ad-free episodes, early access to content, and more, listeners can join the Empire Club at [empirepoduk.com](http://empirepoduk.com).
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Transcript
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0:28Hello and welcome to Empire with me, Anita Arnon. And me, William Durumpal. So we're taking a little break from Writers of Empire for a little bit of a sporting interlude, if you will. We're going to talk about the history of cricket and the way in which it is completely intertwined with the history of empire. In the next three episodes, two that you get anyway, one special bonus if you're a member of our club, we're going to be talking about the relationships of England, the mother country, if you will, and her former colonies. So we'll be covering Australia and Australian cricket, especially the Ashes.
1:05We'll be talking about the test cricket history of countries like India. And in our special bonus, we'll be talking about the West Indies and South Africa. These are episodes which even if you're not into cricket, you can still enjoy because they are wound around huge seismic changes in the political landscape of the empire. but also gigantic characters exist in these stories. So we really do hope you enjoy it and it seems like a good time to do it because the ashes are underway. Two sides of the world are coming together in one of the biggest cricketing grudge matches that there is, the ashes.
1:48Between November 2025 and January 2026, England and her one-time colony are going to be slugging it out for a small terracotta urn that once, and it's not this one, this is a replica, but once contained the ashes of, it depends who you talk to, cricket stumps or the ball used in the very first match. So we're going to talk about that. We're going to talk about the international rivalry, but I mean, this represents so much more, doesn't it, Willie? It does. I've just come back from Australia this weekend and people were talking about it and I got several people telling me all about the history of the, whether it's bales or balls.
2:26So I feel very much part of this conversation already, although it's not my normal end of the market. I should say I grew up with a brother who was a professional cricketer, and he managed to put me off the game almost completely. And all my childhood, but I was longing to watch cartoons. All that was on was the sound of the cricket and the noise of bat against ball. And it's given me a distance. Anyway, I'm looking forward to leaping back in now because in this podcast we are going to be looking at the origin of well the whole export of cricket the origin of the ashes where to begin where did it start we're going to talk about some of the giants of the game like wg grace and don bradman and others you may not be familiar with i have to say i wasn't until i started reading for this like fred the demon Spofforth and Captain Bly, Ivo Bly, not to be confused with the captain of the Bounty.
3:23Damn your eyes! Captain of the Bounty. Shivermitimbers, all of that kind of thing. And this Captain Bly wasn't Captain of the Bounty but was captain of the English side which went to a shocking defeat in 1882 of which we will talk more. This is a really compelling story about toffs versus commoners the old world versus the new world. A kindling of a Republican spirit down under, imperial prejudices. I mean, it's packed full of all of that kind of stuff. And also, this is a spread of a story to other parts of the British Empire as well. And in the second of this series, we're going to talk about the history of cricket in the Indian subcontinent.
4:02And we're also going to talk about in a third episode, a very special bonus for you about cricket in the West Indies. If you want to get all of that in one innings, see what I did there, go to empirepoduk.com. That's empirepoduk.com. But it's true to say, you know, the history of cricket runs like embroidery through the fabric of empire. And to unpick it for us today, I'm delighted to say we have Tim Wigmore, author of Test Cricket, A History. It's just been shortlisted for the William Hill Sports Book of the Year. Congratulations, Tim. Tim's also one of the lead cricket correspondents for the Daily Telegraph and a host of other publications.
4:39Thank you so much for being with us, Tim. Thank you, Anita. Thanks very much for having me. And congratulations. Perfect Christmas present, of course. It is, just in time. Just in time, perfectly timed. Tim, before we get into the ashes, I always like to do origin stories of all these things we talk about. And just give us literally a micro history of when does cricket begin and when does test cricket begin? Because it is before the ashes, isn't it? I mean, it's way before, predates the ashes. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's a long time before the ashes. Yeah, yeah. The exact roots of cricket have been lost to history, as they say.
5:11So there's all these stories of, you know, French peasants playing in the 14th century. We could assume a myth. Yes, although I suppose playing with something like a ball and something like a bat, that is very possible. What we think of as cricket, it basically begins in the 17th century in England. And the first scorecard, it would be very recognisable, was for a game in 1744. The first match-fixing gambling cricket is 1817. Gambling has always been a big part of cricket. I think there's a great story then of two teams playing each other and basically both teams have been bribed to lose. So you get Battsman trying to get out against Bollers trying to knock it out.
5:52That would have been the funniest match to watch where they're both trying to lose. The players are sort of defending themselves to the bookmakers by saying, you know, I'm honest, I did what I was paid to do. So, yeah, and then you have the mid-18th century, you have more and more matches in England and attempts to sort of actually codify the laws. because before people are sort of fighting about what are the actual rules of each game being played. And actually, amazingly, the first international match, first international fixture of any sport, 1844, it's in Manhattan, it's USA and Canada. In Manhattan?
6:24In Manhattan. Those great cricketing nations, America and Canada. Seriously. Exactly. It's an amazing bit of that history there. And then the first English tour to Australia is 1861 when they arrive on Christmas Eve in Port Melbourne and there's 10 ,000 people there to welcome them. That's the first English tour by Australia, but it's still 18 years away from the first Test match. Let's talk about the inception of what we're here to chat about, the Ashes, you know, that big slugfest that is the Ashes, that has brought us sledging, that has brought us controversy, that has brought us so much joy and so much pleasure.
6:59We can say the 1880s is when we see this great cricketing rivalry born. And just to give you a little bit of context, So, you know, Queen Victoria is the longest serving monarch in British history until Queen Elizabeth, of course. She's at the height of her powers. It's a huge turning point for the British Empire, a decade of rapid expansion, political change, imperial competition, social transformation. And this is the decade, again, just to give you a little background of when this first match, this first Ashes match was played. The decade that Britain gains control of the Suez Canal, accesses Upper Burma, scrambles for Africa, consolidates its control in India after the mutiny.
7:39And thanks to the most powerful navy the world has ever seen, it has established trade routes to India, China and Africa. And so you could say that the British Empire's muscle at this time is at full flex. All children know the words of Royal Britannia and they sing it and they mean it. And in comparison, William, where's Australia? It's still a federation of colonies like the sort of pre-revolutionary America, isn't it? So Australia becomes a country in 1901. So the fact you have an Australian national team playing before they're a country with a coat of arms, it's actually very important in the development of a sense of nationhood.
8:13Yeah, it is growing biceps though, Australia as well. It's fair to say at this time, even though it's not sort of one nation. Gold has been discovered in New South Wales and Victoria. It's soon going to be discovered in Western Australia too. And so this massive economic boom is beginning. By the 1880s, half of the white population lives in towns, making it more urbanised, I couldn't believe this, than the UK at the time. And you've got settlements expanding into Northern Australia. and of course, you know, to the detriment of the indigenous population there. But let's go back to that 1861 before the first official ashes.
8:52You know, when the English go over to their colony, how are they welcomed? You know, with jubilation, are people saying, oh God, they reckon themselves? I mean, how does that all work out at the time? No, they're warmly welcomed. Then of course, a huge amount of Australian people at the time, their first or second generation English is seen as a way of binding Australia to the mother country. The tour is run for profit. It's a privately run tour. And the players are paid really, really well. The players earn over a million pounds in today's money from that tour, which is incredible. The crowds are huge because it takes six weeks to get there.
9:24They're there for a long, long time and they're playing all the time. So when people say, you know, money is ruining sport, well, money has always been the driver of sport. And that was true from the 1860s. So how does the idea of international matches between these, well, Australia as a team now, even though there isn't a country called Australia, and Britain begin? When does that kick off? The idea of a test match is originally like a marketing slogan. It's used by marketeers to pump up these matches. So often you get multiple private tours from English teams to Australia at the same time, which are all for profit.
9:57And they are very much playing on these national allegiances. The patriotic element, that tribal element, you get these tours from Australia to England. And the first, what is thought of as the first test match is 1877 at Melbourne, when England lose for the first time of many to Australia. So that's interesting. So they lose in Australia, but then they come to England in what we now think of as the first Ashes Test match, although nothing's been burnt at this point. And that's 1882, as you mentioned before. And what surprised me, Tim, is that it doesn't take place at Lords, you know, the home of cricket.
10:32It takes place at the Oval. Now, I love the Oval. I think the Oval is actually my favourite ground in the country. Second, maybe Edgbaston, third, probably Lords, just for atmosphere and enthusiasm. And explain to those of us that aren't following this quite as closely, I mean, both of these are big, massive, famous cricket grounds. Why would you expect it to be one rather than the other? So, Lords is in Marleyboone, St. Johnswood is in a very, very money part of London. It's bursting with history, not just the ground itself, but the areas around. The Oval is called the People's Ground of London, which of course, these differences are a bit embellished, but the gasworks actually just speaking distance from the ground and stuff.
11:12more egalitarian feel to that ground, basically. So they're five miles away. Obviously, they like to drum up the contrast between each other. I mean, in short, it was sort of deemed to be the working class stadium, if you like. So would the Aussies have been considered that they were being given the second division place by being sent off to the Oval? I don't think so. I think these tours have such a kind of ad hoc feel. They would have played at Laws as well in that tour. So it wouldn't really have that sense. it would just have a sense of it's Tuesday, we're playing here. They're playing six, seven days a week, every week.
11:45This is how you make money from these tours. We should say, very interesting captains. And if you see sort of pictures of them. Good moustaches. Good moustaches. I mean, very strong face furniture. In fact, the best moustaches we've had on this show since the Sykes-Picot agreement. Yes, you could say. So what I love is that they both sort of have these wonderful sort of nicknames. So it's William Billy Murdoch, who's the Australian captain. I checked this straight out when I saw this and he is no relation to Rupert Murdoch. The Rupert Murdoch Murdochs were still in Scotland at this point. Fine, okay.
12:20And for the England team, you had Albert Nielsen Monkey Hornby. And I sort of looked it up. Why did they call him Monkey? It's because he was incredibly agile. He's there, he's everywhere, he's left, he's right. And so they just, they called him Monkey. And that's how, you know, he sort of became cemented in the minds and hearts of the public. We should go into the moustaches in more detail, though, because this is something we take seriously on this podcast. And Billy Murdoch has a kind of long pair of rather sort of droopy moustaches that go down to his jowls, while Monkey has a kind of more sort of Hitlerian short and abbreviated moustache.
12:59So I think the Australians win on the whiskers. Yeah. What was the mood like at the Oval when this match was even announced? I mean, there must have been bookmakers thronging to the area. So the game was 28th and 29th of August. It's really, really cold, actually. Very cold, very cloudy. So not very Australian condition. Should have been Englandfield at home. 20 ,000 spectators in the ground. They pay a shilling each. Is that a kind of record audience or not? I think at the time, yeah, it's a huge audience. We should say there's two innings a side each, which means Australia gets a bat, then England bat, then Australia bat, then England bat.
13:34And the game sets up with England needing 85 to win in the fourth inning of the match, which should be very, very easy. The bookmakers in the crowd, they offer 60 to 1 of chance of Australia getting a win. England are hugely, hugely favoured. But we talked about moustaches earlier. So Fred Spother, the Australian body, he has one of them. We have a third moustache coming into there. Exactly, yes. It's a great moustache, actually. It is an all-time classic moustache. It has waxed ending the moustaches we're about to introduce. Yes, go on. Tell us who the moustachioed boy wonder is in this match, who turns everything upside down.
14:07So Fred's bowled out. I think he's called the demon both for his cricket ability and his moustache ability. He has this mad kind of determination. So he says, this thing can be done. He shouts to his teammates in the dressing room. They're very forlorn thinking they're going to get to a comfortable victory. And he basically just bowls. So you have a bowler from each end and he just bowls the whole time from one end. And he is basically saying, I'm not going to stop bowling until we've won this match. So he's this mad determination. He's a fast bowler, but not as fast as you get today. But he's got all these variations.
14:38He's learned things from baseball, actually. So he spins the ball in all these clever, deceptive ways. It's getting very tense. They're scoring very, very slowly. There's a man who actually basically has a heart attack and dies in the crowd. Because it's so stressful. That's hilarious. I mean, not hilarious for his family, of course. Did I hear about one man chewing through his umbrella as well? That was in one of the press reports that it was so stressful. He chewed through his umbrella in the crowd. Yeah. And then one of the England batsmen who's so nervous, he's about to bat and he's drinking champagne, but not in anticipation of victory, but out of to kind of quench his nerves.
15:12England are sort of petrified. So at one point they score one run in 17 overs, which is just incredibly slow. So England are absolutely overtaken by fear. So it's a bit of a train crash in slow motion, really. England are just incapable of doing anything. And then it just gets far too much for England. So they collapse and they're 51 for two. So they are absolutely cruising. And then suddenly they're 66 for five. And then they keep on losing these wickets. And at 75 for nine, the last man comes out. His lips are said to be grey in trepidation of having to bat. So, you know, sort of grey-lipped and tense.
15:46And I mean, champagne, you've mentioned champagne. So we can't mention champagne and not mention England's superstar, WG Grace, who's so kind of entangled in that champagne lifestyle. Amazing Grace, this hugely bearded, giant Hagrid of a man. Just tell us a little bit about him and give us his origin story, Tim. Yeah, he's kind of a cartoon character of a man almost. Again, we talked about this, he's got this amazing beard, the bearded one he's got. So he's born into a family of doctors in Gloucestershire. His family all play cricket as well. Kind of reinvents the game in terms of as a batsman, in terms of where he's hitting the ball.
16:23He's also, his force of personality is legendary. So, you know, there's a story once in a match, he's bowled out and then he just acts as if nothing happens and he just puts the stumps back down and carries on and he tells the umpire, they come to watch me back, not you umpire. And he's right because actually the entrance fee for matches is three or four times more when he's playing. He's fully aware of his kind of financial worth. He gets a testimony organized by the Telegraph, actually my newspaper now, he gets£5 ,000 through that, which is half a million pounds in today's money. He's also famously, Tim, isn't he the face of Coleman's mustard, no less?
17:00He's already getting sponsorship from Coleman's at this point. Yeah, I mean, he is very opportunistic. And the great kind of funny thing is he is known as an amateur. And by that, I mean, there is a strange dividing between amateur players and professionals. So professionals are people who are just paid a salary to play. And then there's so-called amateurs who are unpaid, basically, from the upper classes. But they get these expenses. And of course, his expenses are worth far, far, far more than he would get as a professional. So it's a complete farce. So when he tours to Australia on occasions, as an amateur, he earns 10 times more what the professionals actually earn, but he's still classed as an amateur.
17:37Does he have champagne brought out to the crease and things like that? I mean, in my mind, I've got all of these images of these gentlemen, England players who sort of live an entirely different life to the life of people like Fred Spofforth and others who come from Australia. I mean, is that the case or is that just a caricature of the time? Well, he's odd because he, although he's this caricature, he also, he's actually very, in a sense, professional. He trains very hard. He always tries to get to the place where he's playing the day before a match and everything. So he's got this odd mix of, yeah, he's so determined to win, which not all amateurs are, but also he'll cheat happily and he'll do everything to pay what he thinks he's worth as well.
18:17And he's known. In this match, 1882, he has a fight with Spothoth. He claims he's run out on an Australian player. Australians think this is an act of cheating, basically. And so Spothoth, you know, the moustache Spothoth, he calls Grace a bloody cheat. And he then channels that anger into winning that match at the Oval in 1882. So, OK, I mean, this is a match that I actually really wish I'd been at because it sounds like it has everything in it. The nail biting that goes on from the England Appreciation Club, it doesn't get any better, does it? What happens at the end? I mean, how close to the wire does it get?
18:51So the last, yeah, the last wicket falls. The penultimate wicket, 75 for nine. England need 85 to win. The last man, you know, fresh from his champagne while he's been waiting, he scores two, but then from his third ball, he's clean bowled. Australia win by seven runs. England lost the last eight wickets for 26 runs, which is really terrible. and one of the first great traditions of Test cricket is born, which is the England batting collapse. Do you know, people are going to be really smart from hearing that, Tim, and we're going to get letters. But how does, you know, the English press treat this?
19:22Because they can't really have imagined this could happen on English soil. This must be kind of a bonkers day for them. No, it's seen as a complete disaster, basically, and a kind of attack on national pride and the sense that England has invented cricket and they're already being beaten at it and being beaten at home, which also, you know, which stings a lot more. The best reaction, the most notorious reaction is in the Sporting Times newspaper where the following day, Reginald Shirley Brooks, he writes a mock obituary, which says,
20:04RIP and B. And then the final line, the body will be cremated and the ashes taken to Australia. And so this is the idea of the ashes. The urn is born. We're going to take a break in a moment. But on the issue of was it the balls or the bales, where do you, Tim Wigmore, stand? Because it actually went online and I kind of wish I hadn't because I got into terrible heated discussions. I witnessed about whether it was the balls or the bales that were burned and put into this tiny urn. What was it, do you think, in your research? Bales is what I think it is. Bales is what you're going for. Okay, we have an answer.
20:39Join us after the break when we find out how England intends to avenge this disaster.
20:55Welcome back. So before the break, the bales, and we have it, it's official, the bales were burnt. Tim Wigmore says so. And they were put into a tiny urn. And it is up to one man to avenge the English. And his name is Ivo Bly, the England captain. Now, tell us about Captain Ivo Bly, because he also, he looks like he should be captaining the Titanic. There's a lot of, and we've gone on about face furniture, but he has some very fine moustache and beard action. I think it looks like Kenneth Branagh. He's definitely got those sort of officer class sort of moustaches. as a vaguely even regal look to his facial furniture.
21:32Yes. So, I mean, a toff? Absolutely. As you would expect from the 8th Earl of Darnley, no less. So, yeah, he's born Lord of the Manor of Coburn. Very, very privileged upbringing. He goes to Eton and Trinity College in Cambridge. My old college. He is just the sort of person who tends to captain England, actually, not just in this era, but for a long time afterwards. Though, disappointingly, and I checked this, just like Murdoch isn't a relation to Murdoch, Darnley isn't a relation to Mary Queen of Scots it's Darnley Can I just say this is a turn for the Empire podcast where we just go through lists of people that have nothing to do with the person we're talking about I don't need to film hours of broadcasting with this So look, it's Ivo Bly's job to avenge the English embarrassment England leave only 12 days after losing the Ashes which does show the hype of commercialisation of cricket in the era is just one huge tour after the next His vow is to quote, beard the kangaroo in his den and try to recover those ashes.
22:32Brilliant. Those are his KPIs, basically. The tour couldn't go any better for him because not only does he win the ashes, there's a function where a Melbourne lady congratulates him and she is called Florence and then they become husband and wife. So he leaves with the ashes and a new wife to be. Oh, right. Nice for him. But you touched on something really interesting. and I just want to maybe explore it a bit more. He was very much tough. He was to the Man of Bourne, Blue Blood, all of that stuff. You said the captains were always like that. What about the teams themselves? Because the Australians weren't like that.
23:10I mean, they sort of harvested the best players that they could. Could the same be said about the England side? Where did they get their players from? There's a great divide really in how the teams are built. We talked about in England how the amateur and professional divide and eng would generally have three or four if not a few more players who are amateur and the amateur would basically always be the captain so between 1887 and 1952 every person to captain england is an amateur and they even go through they go through different gates at grounds they have different changing rooms they get far far far more in expenses so there's an absolute class divide that runs through how eng and build their team australia everyone is basically semi-professional.
23:54I mean, they are just playing for money. They often have different jobs because they need to do things in between these big tours. But there is not the same obsession with status. An umpire in the 1890s who umpires a lot of Ashes tests, he basically says the difference is the Australian captain, he'll consult his whole team. The captain will treat his players as if they are dogs. He'll only consult one or two people who they consider to be of the appropriate, basically, social class. And that quote, I mean, treat them like dogs. That comes from, I think, an Australian player called Joe Darling, who saw the way in which captains were speaking to their team.
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24:31I mean, that's right, isn't it? They were pretty appalled. Yeah. But the whole way of building a team is different. So in England, it said that you pick the captain first, and then you pick the rest of the team. In Australia, it said you just pick your best 11 players, and then you you pick from that 11 the most suitable person to be captain although race is important as we talk about later in how australia picked their team class does not have the same bearing that it does in england and there's this interesting divide as well where batting is basically a lot more fun and a lot less hard work so that means the amateurs they all are the batsmen basically and you have this this stereotype which does actually hold out surprisingly amount that you You get the batsman and almost a very, the captain is a sort of toff from the home counties, basically.
25:18And then the bowlers, they come from the north. And, you know, the cliche is of minors from Nottinghamshire. And again, this does hold true to an extent. And so there is this sort of this odd split persona to the England team. And batting and bowling is really intrinsic to that. So you have this officer class dimension to it. And they literally don't share the same dressing room. They're all going to different places after the match. Yeah, and then they will not socialise together because they will go to cocktail parties and they will just not invite the professionals who are the bowlers, basically.
25:49I mean, to go forward a little bit, this actually helps to explain why Australia are generally a bit better in Ashes cricket. So England's captains are often not worth their place in the team. So in the first 50 away matches that England play, which are run by MCC Marley Boone Cricket Club in the start of the 1900s, the average for the England captains is 22. and 22 is you want a good player to be averaging 35 40 plus so the captain is basically not worth his place in the team the australian captain has an average of over twice as much so basically england are often picking a captain who's not worth his place in the side and because they're so worried about the right sort of person to be captaining them and this is partly because a cricket tour for england is also it's a diplomatic exercise it's about the cocktail parties it's about meeting ambassadors and everything and so they are they are so focused on this, this gets in the way of picking the best players.
26:40So if you're a northern bowler, do you not get invited to any of the parties? Do you sort of sit around in your hotel while the Toffs from Eton and Oxford are busy toasting their bachelor? You're free to make your own fun to a degree, but you're often not invited to the flagship marquee events, no. No, but the flip side of this is the way the Australians then start to see themselves. Because if they start seeing, and this does indeed happen if you look at the press coverage of those early Ashes test series, The Australians start thinking, you know what? We can be better than them. We treat our players better than them.
27:14We've got a better work ethic than them. Can you remind us again why we are subjects of the British Empire? And you sort of start this Republican nationalist kind of feeling in Australia. You can sort of trace it. I mean, I'm not saying it's cause and effect, but you can certainly see the crisscross and where, you know, great heroes of Australian cricket are suddenly held up as, you know, hang on a minute, we are better. we are simply better why are we subjugated again by these people they treat their team like dogs maybe they're treating us like dogs yeah i think the english they put a target on their back through the way they conduct themselves in cricket and through the way that they pick their team and the way they're actually so blatantly not focused on on merit in terms of how they are building a team and therefore you can draw an extension of that to how they're building society how they're retreat in their colonies and everything.
28:04This is just completely runs through the whole fabric of English cricket. I don't know if it's the link as today, but certainly for a good century after the start of the Ashes, it's around. Australia do see themselves as more egalitarian in cricket and beyond. And to an extent, this is a national myth, right? Even if it's a national myth, it becomes important because it's how Australia identify themselves and how they identify themselves as the other to the English. This is sort of Gallipoli with the cricket bat. Yeah, there is something of that. Willie mentioned Gallipoli. And again, you see the great, huge sacrifice of Australian and New Zealand troops during the war.
28:42There are figures that then come to the fore who are absolute national gods in Australia. And I want to, of course, talk about Don Bradman, who you can't talk to anybody who loves cricket, no matter what nation they support. You will not hear him discussed in any other way than in terms of reverence. So tell us about Bradman. So Don Bradman is sort of the Australian national myth incarnate. He's a boy from the bush, which is very important because he embodies the idea of social mobility, really, in Australia, in rural New South Wales. And he teaches himself how to bat basically with a stump and a golf ball against a water tank.
29:22And he will hit it and just bounce it for hours and hours and hours a day. And about this incredible control of the bat. from the late 1920s he starts scoring in absolutely industrial quantities really unprecedented quantities and so yeah many people think he's actually the the best sportsman of all time in any sport and the reason for that without getting bogged down is so his average is 99.94 in test cricket and of players with 20 matches or more the next best is 63 so he's basically he's 50 better than the next best which is really unprecedented the depression hits very very hard in Australia as well.
29:58So he emerges as this, this kind of icon for a country that's in need of an icon. He's clean living. So he famously scores triple century, 300 in a day at Leeds. And he celebrates, goes to reception, he asks for a pot of tea to be taken to his room. So, you know, plenty of cricketers would celebrate in a very different way. We've seen it. We've seen the footage. Yeah. Yeah. In a kind of unromantic way, actually. He's so, so focused. So in a sense, people can project anything they want onto him. But he's also very, very focused on money as well. He's sort of a stockbroker as well. But because he's so good, he's beating England, which is what people love most of all.
30:37And then in 1932, England go to Australia to try and regain the ashes, just as Ivo Bly tried to do 50 years earlier. Their captain is Douglas Jardine. Jardine is a name we know very well on this podcast. They do not play by the rules. And they are famously ruthless. and they often shoot below the belt. So this is the family of Jardine, as in Jardine and Matheson of Victorian Narcos, who we did a huge series about last year. They were the ones who basically replaced the East India Company as the biggest opium dealers to China. They are the ones that provoke this entire war between China and Great Britain.
31:19Although just a temperate a tiny bit, tiny bit, because he's a distant relative and there will be no war and there's very little opium that we know about involved but apart from that otherwise it's a perfect analogy absolutely that's exactly what you were struggling to say in the Eater exactly yeah tell us what you know body line was all about and could you give it the subheading of get Bradman was that was that basically the tour yeah that was so to go back on Jardine so he is yeah he's actually born in India Scottish roots as you said he's educated at winchester college and he from a very young age he's famously kind of clinical and ruth and just just not care what people think or conventions this is the same school as rishi sunak we should it is absolutely yeah and so when he's appointed as captain his old schoolmaster says well we shall win the ashes but we may lose a dominion and that prediction does almost come true so jardine this body line tactic so to explain it's basically so this is we should remember this is a time when there's no helmets at all so the physical threat of of facing fast bowling is very raw and very very apparent even though the fastballs are not as quick as they would become later but jardin he he's a bit of a genius because he he finds some grainy kind of footage of bradman scoring 232 in a match at the oval in 1930 and yet from this double century he says actually he's got this weakness i can spot i've got it he's yellow he says which is that when badman faces these short balls which are directed towards his neck and his head he is vulnerable basically and out of that he then develops this this tactic which is basically to bowl fast fast and short at the player's neck and head and have a number of players on the leg side as it's called fielding around them and cramping up the batsman now at this time is this considered to be very unsporting or is this considered all this fair in love and war?
33:14Well, there have been a few people who've used mild versions of this tactic before, but what he is proposing, what he's planning to do it in a way that's never been done before, he doesn't actually necessarily know how it will be received exactly because it hasn't been done before. But what he's trying to do is find a way to bring Bradman down to size and turn this sort of superhuman into just a normal player. And to do that, he goes to Harold Larwood, who is a brilliant fast bowler, who was a coal miner from Nottinghamshire and then became a pro cricketer. And he basically hatchets this plan.
33:49They're in a posh hotel in London when Jordan invites him to have a drink. And he says, do you think it can be done? And Lyle says, yes, I think it can be done. So he needs Lyle and these other fast bowlers to be able to do this tactic because to bowl short requires, the physical effort from bowlers is massive. The demands it will take to get the ball up again and again and again. but he develops this tactic basically and it's there to attack badman but also he figures it will be effective against everybody basically what happens is that so the australian crowds are really shocked and appalled by this because they see basically how close people are to being killed and and there's there's several times when players could have been been easily killed i think no one is killed when harold lor would go to the the theater once he sort of overhears a little boy going to his mum.
34:39Mummy, he doesn't look like a murderer. And does Larwood like this or is he alarmed that he's being cast in this way? Well, Larwood is doing what he's told and he's very competitive as well, but he's doing what he's told and he has a complete backing or so it seemed of his captain in England at that time. But Australia, they complain to the MCC who run English cricket and they say this is unsportsmanlike behaviour. The word unsportsmanlike to the people who run English is like the biggest attack you could make. And it is incendiary. But I mean, the thing is, you know, the whole England team is not comfortable at all with the body line tactic.
35:16I mean, you've got people who object to the fact that the captain wants the entire team to refer to Bradman as that little bastard, number one. I mean, there's sort of things like that, which, you know, people don't like. And you've also got people like the Nawab of Petordi. Now, this is a fascinating man. He's in the side during the body line test. Now, first of all, For people from the Indian subcontinent, you say Patoldi, they will know him. They will know him as the father of Tiger Patoldi. They will know him as this sort of great princeling who played cricket and wowed the world. But for others, just tell us a little bit more about Iftikhar Ali Khan Patoldi.
35:53Who was he and why is he important in this context, especially? Yeah, so he is one of the select group of basically Indians who move to England and then go on to play cricket for England. Ranji Singh is another in the 1890s in this group. They tend to be from the absolute uber elite in India. But he goes on to play for England and he scores a century in the first match in the Borderline Series and he later captains India, amazingly. but he's very uncomfortable with the tactics being used so he thinks that unsportsmanlike and he he's told to fill in positions to support this tactic and he refuses and then jordan with his kind of icy stare says i see his harness as a conscientious objector so there's this rift that that runs through there's there's another player gabby allen where's eaten and has a gate named after him at that lord's also from the same sort of background he also refuses to bowl body line or field in those positions but the other players basically do as they're told tim one quick explain that why body line because it hits the body is that the idea yeah the line is body because before you would you would not explicitly really be aiming for a batsman's body in the same way you'd be aiming at the stumps right you're bowling above the stumps which means you're taking out the most common form of getting someone out and you're trying something radically different and you're introducing this level of physical threat and this physical threat kind of is is the tactic really But this leads, Tim, to a diplomatic crisis because the Australians are so appalled by the behaviour of the England team by body line.
37:27Am I right in saying even the Prime Minister, Joseph Lyons, writes a letter protesting? I mean, it goes to that very highest level saying, you know, this is not what we expect from you. This is not how you play cricket and you cannot try and injure our players. yeah and a lot of this stems from john and he's so sort of his lack of compassion at the injuries is quite remarkable so you know in the third match bill woodfall australia's captain he's hit above the heart and he reels away in agony and as he's kind of reaching the ground collapsing john just says well bold harold he's the dick dastardly of cricket this guy he is and he kind of he kind of loves it as well he's completely focused on his aim which is to to basically to topple Bradman and to beat Australia.
38:11And, you know, he doesn't even register anything else. So you have, yeah, Burt Oldfield, another Australian. He has a broken skull from another livery from Larwood. I mean, this is serious. This is not the sort of gentleman's game. This is rollable. Yeah, this is something that we just have not seen before in cricket. And so this leads, yeah, the Australian board to make these complaints to the MCC. At times, there is a real threat. the tour will be cancelled after three matches. There's five matches, but with two to go. Eventually, Australia, they back down. Of course, there's an irony here, which is that all the complaining that Australia do, but borderline is great for business.
38:51So you get all these record crowds in. The Australian board is actually making money as well from their players being under such physical threat as well. Does it win the match, Tim? Does Bradman buckle under the pressure? Yeah, so what happens, so Bradman, his average is 99 in his whole career. His average goes down to 56 for this series. So he basically goes from being two great players and one to just one great player. 56 is still a really, really good average. He's brought down to size. He's almost halved. And England win 4-1, which is an incredible achievement against a really strong Australian team.
39:26So in that sense, it does exactly what it was supposed to do. But they lose the moral high ground. I'm going to have to talk about the moral ashes last time. This is certainly Australian morally, they have a lot of complaining to do. And I think, you know, if this, you know, hypothetically, if this series happens maybe five or ten times, several people are being killed. You know, there were several moments we could have had deaths in this series. But there's the odd thing with Lord, even though he's seen as this arch villain, he does at times get these, you know, standing ovations from the Australians.
39:55There is a level of respect for him as well. And Jardine, despite his ruthlessness, he compares the hospitality of Australians to that of the ancient Greeks as well. So there's all these odd different layers. It kind of dawns on the English cricket. West Indies are then taught England the next summer and they do a bit of borderline tactics themselves. And then England say, oh, this actually is really bad. We don't like it after all. And then the penny and the England are like, oh, we shouldn't see this after all. and that leads them to them basically scapegoat harold larwood and so larwood is asked to apologize even though he has just he's been playing the series he's bowled incredibly well and just done what he was told and he says he's got nothing to apologize for he doesn't play for ever again jodding himself and he plays a few more games and then in this very very odd this amazing bit of symmetry so larwood ends up emigrating to australia many years after the series.
40:51And incredibly, he becomes almost best friends with Bert Oldfield, the man he almost killed, and is then a pal bearer at his funeral eventually. So there's this incredible symmetry with this story. Well, let's just skip forward now, because as we mentioned, there were two world wars that brought men from both sides of the world together, fighting together. And that was never truer than in World War II, where you have the Anzacs and the British camaraderie being so very strong and the sacrifice of the Anzacs recognised so publicly. Did that filter into cricket? Did it make what was an acrimonious relationship much, much better?
41:28Yeah. And so you do see the presence of cricket even in World War II. So when Mussolini is dismissed by the Italian king in 1943, a conservative MP says, we've got Bill Ponsford, who's another great Australian batsman, we've got him out. But Bradman is still batting. So So Bradman is therefore compared to Adolf Hitler there. The Australian Prime Minister in 1944 gives a speech at Lourdes when he says Australians will always fight for these 22 yards. Lourdes and its traditions belongs to Australia just as much as to England. So there is a sense actually where cricket is a little unifying force in almost showing Australia the mother country and what they're fighting for as well.
42:04And then cricket is used straight after VE Day as a unifying force again. So only 11 days after VE Day, there's the first of a series of victory tests. These are kind of unofficial matches organized between an Australian XI and an England team. You get spectators queuing up from six in the morning to try and get their favoured old seats at Lourdes. You have a very moving moment when Graham Williams, who had been released from a German prisoner of war camp only a month earlier, comes out to bat for Australia. He'd been a prisoner of war for four years. he gets standing ovation and he still gets a half century after all that so he's incredibly still got the memory of how to play yeah so these matches in 45 which they're kind of friendly they're not official test matches they are very important in sort of giving a sense of the old world i guess and and being in the sense of normal life if you like if you like back and a victory feel and then after australia are very dominant in fact after both world wars actually english cricket is probably decimated more than it is decimated more than australian cricket and australia I'm very drawn after both.
43:07And Australia in 1948 with Bradman as captain, who Bradman incredibly had failed an eye test and was not able to serve in World War II. But he captains, he's 40 and he captains Australia. They're an amazing team and they're called the Invincibles because they go the whole tour, they're 33 matches without losing a single game. And they're sort of seen as one of the absolute greatest teams of all time. Well, let's end on Bradman because such a colossal figure. The stories about Bradman are incredible because he was quite a meek chap himself, didn't like publicity, didn't do huge numbers of interviews, didn't like that kind of thing.
43:40But he was so important that when Nelson Mandela is released and he greets the former Prime Minister Malcolm Fraser at Cape Town's prison, one of the first things he says is, tell me, Mr. Fraser, is Don Bradman still alive? Because he is so beloved. And just one other story before we leave this, and it's kind of a nice segue into our next episode, because Tim is coming back to talk about cricket in India. Lovely story, Tim, that I've been told so many times is Don Bradman in his quiet sort of retirement is at home pottering around the kitchen. His wife is watching TV. She's watching a test match where India is playing and she suddenly shouts, Don, Don, come in here right now.
44:22Don, come in here. There's a boy who plays just like you. and it's Sachin Tendulkar. And Bradman comes in and sees Tendulkar. Was it his first test, Tim, where he comes and watches him? No, no, it was a few years into his career. He was established. But they do then have a sort of friendship after that, you know, the old grandee of sport and the little prince, if you like. Yeah, and they have this team meeting in Adelaide, which I talked to Sachin and Tendulkar about, the way that they picked up the cues, basically. That's what it is. They pick up the cues other than anybody else, which means they kind of know what the ball is going to do.
44:56So they're anticipating rather than everyone else just sees it and then reacts. But they are getting a sense of what's going to happen while it's in the air. And that creates the illusion that they have more time when they're batting. I happened to be at the match in Sealcott when Sachin Tendulkar defeated Imran Khan on his very, very last match, on his last international. I was doing a profile of Imran and was watching the match. It should have been very easy. I think Imran had only to get something like six more runs in three overs. And then Tendulkar came on and knocked, I can't remember what he knocked it for, but six sixes in a row or something like that, and won for India.
45:35And so Imran lost his last match. Well, look, the passing of the torch, you know, from sort of Bradman to Tendulkar, the two men who guessed what a ball was going to do before even perhaps the bowler had let go. It's a lovely idea. yeah so I mean it sort of leads us very neatly into the next one because brilliant Tim is going to come back and we're going to talk about cricket and India another story of sort of a mother country and her colony and and how this game shifts and becomes so much bigger than just what's going on at the ground so if you want to listen to it right now you can't wait you know what you need to do it's empirepoduk.com empirepoduk.com become a member of our club and you'll get all of these mini-series all in one go but till the next time we meet is goodbye from me Anita And goodbye from me, William Durrumpur.
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