Alien Earth eps 1 & 2: The Team Empire Take

22:04Chris Hewitt:I'm paraphrasing. Which makes me wonder, Wendy, Wanda, does he know more than he is letting on about what they're about to encounter? I think at that point he may be speaking just of the difference between synth bodies and human. It's a weird thing to say though, isn't it? Yeah, but I think he's fascinated by the difference in a way that maybe Ash maybe was. Maybe even the way that Bishop was. Bishop talked about it a bit, the difference between humans and synths. David, of course, was fascinated by it in the prequels. And we should talk about how wedded Hawley necessarily feels to alien canon.

22:49Because I think the answer is he feels wedded-ish to the canon, but not wedded-wedded. Like it's an open marriage to the canon, but not necessarily to death to his part to the canon.

23:00Chris Hewitt:Yeah, I don't think that he's necessarily going to incorporate Prometheus and Covenant into this. No. Maybe not even aliens in the sense of having alien queens and the like. Maybe. We'll see. I don't know. This is all pure speculation. What I'm saying is I think there isn't a running theme of the difference between synths and people. There is a running theme of a tension between synths and people. The idea, and it was most developed in Prometheus and Covenant, about are synths going to replace humans or are aliens going to kill humans? but somebody's killing all the humans at some point. It's not good for us.

23:37Chris Hewitt:We've got that to look forward to. The long-term prognosis is not good. And I think the hybrids does introduce a wrinkle into that equation and does introduce a sort of slightly another factor. And I think that Kirsch is very aware of that and is curious about that. I'm not saying he's necessarily hostile, certainly not in what we've seen so far. He's not necessarily hostile, but he is at a remove from this relationship. Might be Yojimbo in it? Do you think he might be, you know, it's difficult to talk about now because we'll see what happens down the line, but do you think he might be playing two factions against each other and stepping back and seeing what happens?

24:17We have seen that with David, for example, in the past. I think there's maybe a little bit of David in him, not in a I'll-do-the-fingering kind of way, but I think...

24:24Chris Hewitt:Oh, gosh. But I do think that's maybe... Quite the image. Based on what we've seen so far, there's maybe an element of that. He does seem nurturing and almost paternal at times to the kids. Yeah. More so than the boy cavalier. Oh, the boy cavalier is such a prick. Yeah, he's such a prick. But he does read them bedtime stories, so, you know. Does he, though? I mean, come on. I'm on. So, yes, the show's called Alien Earth, and yes, we have a scene of Warf running around killing all kinds of people, but it's really interesting that the first thing we see, the opening crawl, for want of a better phrase, at the beginning of episode one is about the essentially next stages of humanity, laying out cyborgs, which is what Morrow is.

25:09Chris Hewitt:And there's, you know, kind of, you can feel there's even in-world racism towards cyborgs. Once people see he's a cyborg, they're like, oh, he's a cyborg. There's synths, which is what Kirsch is, which is artificial body, artificial intelligence in an artificial body. And then there's the new thing, the hybrids, which is the big, great big whacking idea that Noah Hawley has built this show around which is Wendy and the rest of the Lost Boys so what do you reckon what do you make of the story sorry and by the way it's interesting that we know that and the people in the show outside of the boys you know faculty don't know that don't know that yeah that's all a big secret but of course they can't keep a secret so they're telling they're telling Joe within seconds oh yeah we're different inside we're like we're super smart we're super special we're everything yeah but don't tell anyone what do you make of that the fact that Noah Hawley is centering this show, not so much on the alien, although that does play a huge part, but on this different, this new facet of humanity.

26:07Yeah, I love it. It, again, opens up so many questions. And with the hybrids especially, we're talking about alien, the xenomorph is all about evolution. Hybrids, they're also evolving as this show is continuing. So having those two journeys, especially mirror each other, is very, very interesting. It's just a really great entry point. You know, the Alien films, there's a certain, even though I like the Alien Romulus, there's a certain repetitiveness that those films have at times here. I don't feel any of that at all. And that's genius. For Noel Hawley to find this entry point in a franchise as long and storied and rich as Alien is very, very impressive to me.

26:52Chris Hewitt:And let's be honest as well, often fucking shit. We should acknowledge that. It does make you wonder if Winona Ryder's synth was pure synth or hybrid almost, you know? Yeah. Are we going to reassess some of the other films in the light of this? The timeline is interesting as well. This is two years before Ripley's team. Ripley. Yeah. Wake up. So, you know, has that expedition been launched already? It will have been launched. It will have been launched already. Okay, so it's not in response to this. but it does mean you know there is a little bit of wiggle room in terms of the timeline in terms of what you can do yeah I'm just very but it is interesting because Ripley doesn't so in Aliens Ripley returns to Earth Earth is still there Earth is still there well she's on a space station she's on a space station but then we see her later on I think she is on Earth whenever she's in her apartment and so initially she's kind of sequestered and maybe quarantined in the space station off Earth but then later on that scene for example where Burke comes and calls upon her and tells her that LV426 has gone dark.

28:00Chris Hewitt:I'm pretty sure she's on Earth at that point. What a Burke. What a dick. He should be called Carter Dick. So we have a suspicion that Earth is going to be okay, largely, at the end of the show. But we do have, you know, the Boy Wonder is on an island. Yeah. Boy Cavalier. Boy Cavalier. It's not really alien Earth, it's more like alien part of Earth. alien yeah alien that one island we don't go to anymore earth although it is a city it is a major city where the ship it's crashed in was it New Siam it was New Siam but it was oh god Prodigy City is what it's called Prodigy City because Boy Cavalier has renamed it thus because that's what billionaires do they take something beloved and they give it a really stupid fucking name yeah I've got some questions on X coming up later on if you want to I will never call it X I would never call it eggs.

28:53Chris Hewitt:It's Twitter. Twitter. Anyway, New Siam. Yes. New Siam. So that's true. I guess we have to get them out of there. And I don't know. Can you be sure you've got all those little cockroach things with the brain eating? I'm really worried that they're just going to become endemic in Prodigy City. That would be bad. That would be, I think, very bad. That would be not good. But by and large, we know that Earth's going to be okay. So where's the inherent dramatic tension from setting this thing on Earth? You know, it's a big budget thing and it looks incredible. and the effects are amazing. But clearly, even a Disney Plus TV budget won't stretch to a full-scale xenomorph invasion or eyeball octopus monster invasion of Earth.

29:34Chris Hewitt:So why has Hawley set it on Earth? I don't know, but I'm interested because I feel like that's something we haven't really explored in the Alien movies before. We have this idea that, you know, there's certainly at least one megacorporation called Weyland-Yutani. and that your life is very controlled by the corporation. We saw that in Romulus as well. It's something that's run through all these films, this suspicion of rampant, runaway, late-stage capitalism, which seems totally ill-founded given our own world. But I think that what it does give us room for is, at the moment, there are five megacorporations.

30:13You've got to feel like it's going to go down a bit. So we could see, I think, in this world. I think we're going to see more corporate shenanigans, very hostile takeovers. I don't know how exactly aliens play into that.

30:28Chris Hewitt:Well, if you talk about hostile takeovers, the eyeball octopus monster, Jesus Christ. It would be pretty damn hostile. Yeah, but like, I'm not, I don't know if they weaponize that specifically, but I think this conflict that we're already seeing between Prodigy and the Weyland-Yutani forces is going to be significant. I mean, similar to what you were saying, that immediate hook of the title. So many alien films are about bringing these specimens to Earth. We're actually seeing specimens on Earth, or I'm guessing we will, in the show going forward. That's a really cool entry point. And in terms of the dramatic tension of the story, as you mentioned, this is beginning and or comparisons.

31:09I felt similarly going into... It's just Alex, isn't it? Alex Walker. But the and or, obviously, is fantastic and it's about the characters it's about their motivations, their stories they're doing a similar type of thing with this show so yeah, I'm all for it

31:27Chris Hewitt:I think it might be similarly timely as well it might be driven by concern and fear about what the rise of billionaires is doing to our planet right now that might be something that's really struck me that in episode 2, Mr. October when they're clearing the building that they happen upon what seems to be some sort of fancy dress dinner party where one of the dudes is dressed as a French aristocrat and you're getting real let-them-eat-cake vibes and then seconds later they're eviscerated by an alien because, again, the show is big on fucking around and finding out. And that felt really pointed, maybe even on the nose to me, but I'll allow it.

32:10I was okay with the alien eating the rich, if I'm honest. It's a nice change from its usual eating the poor. shenanigans. So, very much okay with that. Can I just say one small thing which I really, really liked in terms of a sci-fi touch. Normally, when you hear people talking over radio, there's like distortion. When Kersh is talking to the kids, it's like he's in the room. There's no distortion at all. I really like that. It's a really, really cool sci-fi touch.

32:36Chris Hewitt:Yeah, very much so. I love all the little things. The little elements of sound design that plant you in a very familiar world. There's a moment where Morrow is being arrested by those guys and the alien comes out of the sort of canvas that he's got him in or the sort of bag he's got him in. And you can hear the notable brr, brr of a pulse rifle. He's like, oh, I'm home. I'm home. And the Maginot feels so Nostromo-y but also is very different at the same time. But it's just enough to make you feel at home and mother and the fact that the technology. The chat with mother, yeah. Yeah, that was pretty cool.

33:16And just even the spaceship corridors with all those threatening pipes that look a little bit like an alien, if you look at them the wrong way, I was extremely suspicious of all negative space in this show. Anytime there was a shadow, I was like, what's in the shadow?

33:31Chris Hewitt:I don't want to know. There's some great moments. Most of them are in episode two, but I can't remember if it's episode one or episode two, forgive me, but there's a moment where we see Joe, they're on the ship, they've just arrived, And it's a shot from beneath him. And there's something on the panel above him is lit. And there's some cables and wires and stuff on there. And then something slithers. Something moves. Something moves. I don't like it. And then, of course, there's a great bit with the alien who kills the dude just outside the French aristocrat's apartment. Yeah. Where you see the alien in the background on a statue.

34:09Chris Hewitt:On the statue. I was like, that statue. Don't trust that statue. That's an alien. Yeah. Does the alien, you know when some creatures evolve over time and they don't know what they look like, but somehow they do. And they seem to have this innate sense of what they look like so they can appear different to predators. You know that sometimes there's lizards that will be able to, they'll lose a bit of their tail. They can let a bit of their tail go. How do they know to do that? So does the alien know that it looks like statues? And there's the alien owner that looks like pipes. Okay, anyway. Whoa.

34:49I mean, there is an instinctive thing, isn't there, that, you know, predators can hide.

34:54Chris Hewitt:Yeah. I don't know how I'm... Like, does a leopard know it looks like it blends in with leaves? How does it know? Does a tiger know it blends in with grass? We need to be able to develop a language system so we can speak to these things. Attenborough would have a fucking field day. It'd be amazing. Anyway. Clamofage. That's a question you probably can't answer, but let's get some questions. It's the same question about, does the alien know its blood is acid? Precisely. And how? Precisely. Yeah. But then again, you've got something like a moth or a butterfly, which obviously dissolve in the cocoon, like completely dissolve, right?

35:27They're just goo. How do they know? But then they emerge with like racial knowledge and stuff, so.

35:34Chris Hewitt:Well, my next guess is a butterfly. How do you do that shit? I don't know, man. It just happens. Oh, well, there we go. Yeah. That answers that. There you go. All right, should we have some questions? Please. Let's do it. All right, so I'm taking these in the order that I'm seeing them, not necessarily the order in which they were sent. And if I missed your question off, then my apologies. You only have about 15 minutes left. But here we go. This one's from BenPaul83. These are all over the place. These are on threads. They're on Twitter. They're on Blue Sky. This one's on Blue Sky. Does anyone else feel like this show is very well made and acted?

36:05Chris Hewitt:It feels like there's a but coming. But there it is. It's a shame. it's part of its oversaturated franchise that's had way too many cooks and clunkers I think Alien is cool AF to be clear but it is hamstrung as an intellectual property somewhat by its mixed record and confluded timeline on the other hand is there any way to do a cosmic horror slasher in space that doesn't feel completely derivative of Alien or Aliens I mean are you going to say Event Horizon or would you admit that that's a bit derivative at times of course it's derivative I mean yeah absolutely but it just doesn't have an alien going around picking things picking people off one by one it has the devil doing it which is better I guess I don't know that I necessarily agree with the premise no I don't think so because I think I was thinking about this actually as I rewatched it last night that you know the difference between Alien and Predator is that both are awesome yes I agree I do feel like on average Alien has defaulted to more visionary directors and and in this case showrunners.

37:09Whereas Predator has Stephen Hopkins. And Predator has not always had that advantage. And I'm discounting Prey and so on, which I really liked.

37:16Chris Hewitt:All we do is just pray. I can't stop myself. But I think, you know, even the failed, the quote-unquote failed aliens have been trying something and have had an interesting person at the helm. And I think there's been, it's seen as a more prestigious title than Predator. For example, just to compare it to something that it often gets compared to. and I think that this is a part of that this is a showrunner who as you said at the beginning can do incredible things with properties that no one else would touch no sane filmmaker or TV showrunner would touch with a barge ball because like the only way surely is disaster and I think Hawley has kind of shown well he has some crazy out there ideas and they have worked and I hope this one continues working I mean look like I said we've only seen three quarters of it maybe it's going to completely blow it Some of us have.

38:08Chris Hewitt:And we should say as well, only three quarters of the first season. And he's talked very openly about wanting to do multiple seasons of this thing. Yeah, and that's where I'm a bit like, how? How? How do we do that? What's going on? Because then you do run into trouble about, surely these cannot be loose on Earth forever because we know that Earth exists, you know, in a few decades' time. I think he might be going in a slightly different direction. I think so. I think he has to be, but I'm intrigued to see what that is. So, you know, it could still all fall apart in the last two episodes. It could do a BBC Dracula and just like, woof.

38:39But everything I've seen so far has been promising. I agree. Just because a franchise has had a bit of a mess and has had a few clunkers doesn't mean that that is where the story has to end. If you have a cool idea and you can place it in this incubator of something which is already known, go for it. I mean, how many times have we said on these podcasts that don't remake something which is great. Go for something which hasn't been great so you can put your own spin on it and maybe turn it into something that could be great. This is a thing that looks to have done that.

39:14Chris Hewitt:But I also think that, I just don't think that, this is James' pissing the pool analogy to a little bit, to a little extent, but I don't agree with it. I don't think that just because a franchise is full of clunkers that it necessarily automatically devalues any new entry. I think a new entry can be great on its own merits. I think Alien Romulus is very good on its own merits. I think Alien Earth, so far from what we've seen, is great. And I'm really hoping this takes a landing because then it can be truly great. Absolutely. I also don't think that, you know, if you look at it, you can twist it the other way.

39:48Chris Hewitt:Does the fact that Alien 3 and Alien Resurrection and, you know, Prometheus and Covenant aren't that great? And that's not even getting started on the Alien vs. Predator movies. do they diminish Alien and Aliens two of the greatest movies ever made for me no they don't so yeah I respectfully disagree with the premise of the question but here's another one here's Damien from Ennis do you think the device of child's minds being placed into adult synthetic bodies is basically a clever way to have loads of child characters in the show while not having to worry about the more legally restrictive problems that comes from filming with child actors that's very cynical I think to be fair it's a more interesting dramatic device than that.

40:28And I, you know, as I said, I think it's an interesting way to engage with a non-fully formed prefrontal cortex and sort of play with people who don't necessarily have a fully developed sense of what's bad and what's good, not just what's dangerous and what's safe, but also what's bad and what's good. And in a sort of moral sense, I think we might get into that. I'm intrigued to see what the whole buzzing in Wendy's head is about. I don't really understand where that's going yet and why that would be a thing. So I'm kind of intrigued to see where the show is going with that and what that could possibly mean.

41:09But I think that there is an interesting thing to be done here with child characters because, you know, they are naive and they don't know as much as you would think that they know right and it does kind of leave them open to being intrigued by things that they should run from as we've discussed but also sometimes maybe running from things that they should trust or not knowing who to trust and i think and just be naive and just being naive and i think that that's kind of an interesting place for them to be also may mean that i think as we see at the end of episode two with wendy running off to try and rescue her brother putting themselves expressly in danger in a way that an adult might maybe, although probably not in the case of this series, think twice about, you know.

41:54I'm fascinated by Wendy's arc in particular. Where is she going to end up having had this starting point? It's going to be incredible to see. And I listened to some of your interview with Noah. Only some. Actually, I finished the Noah interview. I'm onto the, what's his face? what's his face what's his face what's his face justified dude Timothy Olyphant justified dude Timothy Olyphant Timothy Olyphant and Sidney Shilwell that's a Ray the Givens

42:24Chris Hewitt:oh my goodness that is Seth Bullock I had a momentary lapse that is Cobb Fanth you're talking about oh my gosh how dare you anyway I was trying to pay you a compliment in all of that okay it was very well hidden but go ahead I listened to the Noah Hawley interview and it was very good Chris there it was it was leading up to and then you really interrupted me but but in that interview you guys were talking about the adults of the show and how they are doing stuff which is not they're doing things that Wendy should not be looking up to so why would Wendy sort of want to be more adult given I thought I think that's a very very interesting role models exactly That is an interesting idea.

43:14I think I'm intrigued to see where they go with some of that concept and also with the idea that, I don't know if this show is going to explore this, what they've said they've done is taken these child minds and put them into these bodies, right?

43:28Chris Hewitt:Yeah. But they've also said that they've given them essentially way more intelligence than they had. And I think there's an interesting question there about how much they're the same person. Yeah. If they suddenly have all this additional processing power and this additional abilities, How transformed and how changed are they? Beyond the obvious, oh, no, they've got growing up bodies. Because, I mean, they don't have hormones. I don't know if they are fully functional, to put it in Star Trek terminology, and I don't really want to know because they are still child minds. But I think that there's, what does it mean to be an adult in this case?

44:04What does it mean to be a growing up? What does it mean to be one of the lost boys? You know, is it just that? Is it just that they reject the adult's very, very compromised moral stance? Or is there a genuine difference in them?

44:19Chris Hewitt:There's a reason why Dame Sylvie, the Essie Davis character and her husband, Arthur, there's a reason why because they're the architects of this program. And Boy Cavalier is, yes, he's the billionaire, sorry, trillionaire, genius, playboy, philanthropist, put on some fucking shoes I don't know about philanthropists no he's not a philanthropist but he'd probably think that he is he probably does but he is obviously the he's the overall Tim Burton visionary Tim Burton of this whole thing and he's also the guy who bankrolls it to an extent but they are the science brains who've made it possible and it's interesting that there's a they could have had these bodies can be completely androgynous and had no gender no sex whatsoever I wonder if they are there is a reason why Wendy is in a female body.

45:10Chris Hewitt:There's a reason why all... I don't know. I'm just wondering. I think it might be just a failure of imagination on the part of humans because we can't really imagine people being unlike us. You know, we want them to look just like us. All the synths look human. Yeah. Most of them male, but we've met female synths before in this franchise. Yeah. So I think maybe that's probably the answer is just they didn't think about it. But I do think it's interesting that the show has specifically discussed the fact that these people have become adults without going through puberty, that their hormones and their rushing, emotional, out-of-controlness of their teenage years has not happened to them and they have not learned to deal with that.

45:49Chris Hewitt:Because they're, what, 12 at most? I think 12, 13 at most, yeah. And having been sick for a very long time, which also might have disrupted their hormones and their development. So I think there's a sense that they've certainly skipped an essential human step. I think they have. And I think there's a question of how human they are as a result. And I think that might come into it. For a human. All right. James Stewart. Oh, now look here. See? Oh, okay. James Stewart says... So sorry, James. Why do you think the Sino was on a mission to kill so many gosh darn people? Oh, okay. I think that's what they do, isn't it?

46:30Chris Hewitt:Yeah, but this was a very aggressive one. This is what James Stewart says on Twitter. It was obviously far more aggressive than many, other portrayals in the franchise, normally they hunt and capture humans for hosts. Was this a warrior or was it clear enough that there were threats to the nest in the ship or was it so pissed off from the crash it was lashing out like a wasp in a jar? Or is it just a rage-fueled angry wee beastie? It does kill a lot of people very, very quickly. It does. I think most of the people it kills have their guns pointing at it at the time. Those French aristocrats don't unless, you know, the spoon was was a weapon.

47:05But they're making a lot of noise. We don't know how sensitive it is actually to noise. Because in space, nobody could hear it.

47:11Chris Hewitt:I think aliens are just pricks. I think they're just pricks. And, you know, we're going off a fairly small sample size with these things. We haven't seen many in rampage mode. Because there haven't been that many characters for them to rampage at. But this one has a number of people and groups of people that I can rampage at. But it also is stealthy. It's also like, I know I look like pipes, so I'm going to pretend to be a pipe and I'm going to stalk... Sucine Pound people. I'm going to stalk Joe DiMaggio. I've got him. Here's a question. Maybe it's the fear thing. The fear thing. The fear thing.

47:51That's interesting.

47:52Chris Hewitt:Well, Morrow, who seems to know more about it than he is letting on, I want to talk about that sequence in the first episode. in a second, maybe just to wrap up. But Mauro, in that sequence where he has his back to it in the elevator and it takes out that little squadron of guys. And it comes after him and he's trying desperately not to show fear, but he also has his knife hand out. Knifey hand? Yeah. That's not a knife. That's a knife. So, you know, is he thinking, if I don't show fear, it won't attack me, but just in case. I think he's hoping it will at least slow it down. It's right there next to him and it's clearly thinking about it when it gets distracted.

48:35Yeah. I think showing fear makes it go for you faster, like it's going for the weakest members of the herd.

48:43Chris Hewitt:Which is why it went for Lambert. Yes. Of course. Which one's Lambert? In the Stromo. Right, yes. Hard right character. Yeah, absolutely. Because that is one of the only examples in Alien. Because it's a little tiny little baby alien and then it obviously becomes fully grown but it picks him off one at a time because that's just a... That's good for screenwriting. That's good for narrative tension. But if it had killed them all in the first five minutes, it would have been a shorter movie, is what I'm saying. But it does take out Parker and Lambert at the same time, at the end of Alien. That's true.

49:14How much time and training do you think it took Moro to be around the alien and be whistling

49:22Chris Hewitt:as the alien is trying to kill you? When he's in the room in the Maginot. Yeah. I mean, I think that is, he is trying to distract himself. Yes, I think that is self-control. That is not alien control. I don't think that he is completely, not really sanguine about what is happening. I think he is going... He's dribbling on him. He's sweating if you watch him in that sequence. There's a little bit of sweat that goes down like the dude from Total Recall down the side of his face. He is shitting his pants. And isn't there a line, and maybe being a cyborg gives him a bit more control over his, whatever it is, hormones, endocrines, I don't know, that show fear, you know, the smell of fear.

50:01So he might be actively trying to control his naked gun two and a half. He's been swimming in raw sewage.

50:09Chris Hewitt:He loves it. But I think that there is clearly something, there's maybe something there, and that the alien, you know, suddenly bursting in on the French aristocrats, as it were, like it's a pretty immediate jolt of fear for all of them because they have no concept and setting whatsoever. I think what's more interesting is something that we haven't seen yet and don't know much about, but isn't there a line about we lost people getting these samples? Yeah. So we don't know how, you know, how that went down, but it's obviously given, Morrow, some insight into how fucking terrifying these things are.

50:45Chris Hewitt:They're so blasé about those things in that lab. I don't know. That open, like, I would have an airlock on that thing with the bugs in it to put their food in. I would take off and nuke the entire site from orbit. I would not have collected the samples. Smart man. Yeah, do not collect the samples in the first place. I would have been denying to my bosses that we found anything. Yes, and this is why I'm not a scientist. Yeah, but then they'd be like, you're on the contract for another 27 years, so now we're not going to pay you and you're going to eat slop. So you're like, oh, damn it. Well, at least I'm going to eat.

51:16Somebody isn't going to eat me.

51:18Chris Hewitt:Yeah, rather eat than be eaten, thanks. Wayland Yutani, if that is your real name. we don't have a lot of time for questions I'm so sorry we're running out of time we have to do a Fantastic Four listeners question special right after this go listen to that as well it's going to be really good but here is one potentially final one from Tom Shepard Morrow has a mission from Mother to protect the specimens but also has amazing tech like the stun and creates a net for the alien that would have been super useful in the other films was Ash a much more basic version of an android well Morrow's not an android he's a cyborg he is a human with yes indeed was Ash a much more basic version of I don't know I think Kirsch is ashy I'm sure he moisturizes sorry that's gross actually android moisturizing I'm sure Ash is used to a few home comforts Ian Holm anyway that's interesting about the it said years before the events of Alien.

52:23Chris Hewitt:You mentioned that earlier on, though. And I know someone else sent in a question going, does it tally with the timeline? You know, the fact that the Nostromo is redirected to pick up an alien sample. I think it fits. How is the Nostromo, are they waking up after nine months? No, that's Aliens, isn't it? It's nine months. I can't remember exactly, but yes. But either way, it doesn't necessarily... They're on a deep space mining mission or haulage thing and they're redirected to LV-426 because of the emergency beacon. And the inference in Alien has always been that Weyland-Yutani know what they're sending the crew of the Nostromo to retrieve.

53:06Because otherwise, why would they be so intent on Ash bringing something back?

53:09Chris Hewitt:Yeah, crew is expendable. Bring back organism. That's Ash's prime directive, if you will. And for me, this show actually might make a bit of sense. It's like, oh, now we know what we're looking for. Let's look for it a little bit more actively. Oh, hey, there might be one on this dead barren planet. The only thing that does make sense is then how that plays into aliens where they don't seem to know what's going on on the LV-426. Well, then the Nostroma was lost in between, so maybe they gave up looking. But if the company knows, if Weyland-Yutani knows, then wouldn't they still be aware of it unless the people who know that thing are no longer in play by that point that's possible so basically in this show at some point Ms.

54:00Yutani sends the order to the Nostromo

54:04Chris Hewitt:I would say that's a fair guess and then she's taken off the board don't forget there are 57 years between the two films I thought it was 20 years 57 between Alien and Aliens oh sorry between Alien and Aliens yeah Okay, yeah, that's fine then. So at some point in the next 57 years, I mean, she seems like she might play things close to her chest. She's a boss of a big company. Yeah. We're guessing that none of the Waylands are involved at this point. It doesn't seem like... Well, Peter Wayland's off on... No, he's off. He's... And he doesn't seem to have been the one to share knowledge either. So it kind of makes sense.

54:40Okay, that makes sense. Knowledge might die with her. That makes sense.

54:43Chris Hewitt:All right. Sadly, we have to bring this to an end. having a lot of fun talking about the show and having a lot of fun answering your questions, but we have to go and talk about Fantastic Four now. Fantastic Four! Anyway, but sadly we can't. We don't have the resources or the manpower or frankly I don't have the time or the sanity to do weekly shows of this. We also aren't going to do weekly shows for Peacemaker Season 2. We were hoping to, but as things stand, we're not going to, but we will do a wrap-up show for Peacemaker Season 2 for sure. That is something that is going to happen. I'm very excited about seeing it I haven't seen a single episode yet I am it's like reverse I'm on on this show we're not going to do weekly shows for Alien Earth because there's just there's too much to do too many other spoiler specials coming up over the next few weeks so keep them peeled and your timeline and we'll let you know what's happening when but we will do a Top and Tails we will do one for the final episode which is going to be airing on I believe either September 24th or September 25th if my maths is correct so we shall see but anyway that's all happening down the line in the meantime it's time to say goodbye to my two colleagues of such lethal cunning goodbye Amon Warman peace peace be unto you it's goodbye from Helen O 'Hara doodloo and it's goodbye from me I am off to oh hang on a second I'm just gonna do some casual typing throw these two motherfuckers to the wolves and then hide under the desk while the alien just runs around destroys the studio once again I have outwitted oh no god I'm dead ah well it was good while it lasted thanks for listening see you next time bye bye