Achieving Real Results By Letting Go with Leslie Chen

0:01Light that spark fire nation JLD here and welcome to entrepreneurs on fire brought to you by the HubSpot podcast network, the audio destination for business professionals with great shows like the Goal Digger podcast. Today, we'll be breaking down how to achieve real results by letting go. To drop these value bombs, I brought Leslie Chen into EO Fire Studios. Leslie is an executive weight loss and emotional eating coach who helps high achievers achieve a head turning body while unlocking unbridled food freedom using the timeless wisdoms from Asia. And today, Foundation, we'll talk about the number one distinction that sets people up for real, sustainable results.

0:42We'll talk about how to have a liberating relationship with food, self-limiting beliefs, a transition to a holistically lean, healthy individual, and so much more. And a big thank you for sponsoring today's episode goes to Leslie and our sponsors. Online Marketing Made Easy podcast, hosted by Amy Porterfield, is brought to you by the HubSpot Podcast Network, the audio destination for business professionals with a focus on online business, including digital courses, list building content, and more. Online Marketing Made Easy breaks down big ideas and strategies into actionable step-by-step processes.

1:16A recent episode that will help you get more results with a whole lot less stress is on four ways to avoid burnout. Listen to Online Marketing Made Easy wherever you get your podcasts. Is now your time? Visit Thrivetimeshow.com to see testimonials of how Clay Clark's business coaching has helped over 2 ,000 entrepreneurs to dramatically increase profitability. It's month to month and less money than an average minimum wage employee. Schedule your free consultation today at Thrivetimeshow.com. Leslie, say what's up to Fire Nation and share something that you believe about becoming successful that most people disagree with.

1:53It is about not even planning for success. Yes. Well, I mean, that actually resonates very well with the title that we're going to today, which is, you know, getting real results by letting go. The truth is that a lot of people who say that want to be successful, they don't have an idea that the final outcome success is not really within your control. So the problem is that a lot of people get really tightened up. They're really motivated for their goal and they want to micromanage every step of the way on something that they have no full control of. the result is burned out right so what I tell myself is that I'm going to set goal for myself but the only what really defines the goal is the things that I have full control of I'm not going to you know have this control over which media outlet is going to is going to report my business how many clients I might get I don't even think about that but I know for sure that every time when I'm showing up for something big and small to demonstrate my expertise, I'm showing up 100%.

2:59So that's what I'm sticking with. And I think that's really something that have helped me strike a perfect balance, energy-wise, mindset-wise, to be able to play this long game. Because honestly, a lot of time, what is differentiating the people who are successful versus the people who are not, it's really how much stamina you have to carry things out till the end. Fire Nation, I hope you're as excited about this topic as I am. You can already tell that Leslie is bringing the heat. She's dropping the value bombs because we're talking about achieving real results by letting go. And we'll be using timeless wisdom from Asia throughout this conversation.

3:43And Leslie, I'm really fired up myself about this because health and wellness, it's so important to having a happy life and to being successful as an entrepreneur, but so many people struggle to achieve sustainable weight loss. What is their biggest hurdle? Two of them. The first is that in their belief system, given how many years they've been living this pattern, they don't believe that they can lose weight in a way that is sustainable and organic. while having satisfaction, enjoyment, and freedom in life. And just by not believing it, make sure that you're manifesting the different results.

4:28Number two is that, back to our topic, a lot of people are so laser focused on the weight loss, right, which is a final outcome. But to be honest, in order to get the real sustainable results, you shouldn't even be focused on weight loss. It shouldn't be your obsession Because when that obsession is there, what is triggering within you is the meticulous focus on food based on your old framework of thinking regarding your relationship with food and how food triggers within you. And I call that the dieter's mentality. The dieter's mentality will trigger the dieter's reality for sure. And majority of people don't realize a dieter and somebody who is holistically healthy and lean.

5:14and fit, they are two different categories of people. Even though their bodies are both 130 pounds, they live life differently. They experience food differently. They experience social events differently. They are living on different dimension. Okay, so if you are setting yourself up for being a dieter by adapting to the dieter's mentality and using every technique that the dieter uses, you're not going to head towards the direction of the holistically healthy and lean person just because these are very different outcomes. So that is combined, I would call these are the biggest barriers for 99 % of the people who are trying to reach that goal but cannot get it.

6:00Fire Nation, I hope the hair on the back of your neck is starting to stand up a little bit because the reality is, you know that she's speaking to you. You know that she's speaking to me. I mean, these are the results and the realities that a lot of people struggle achieving because of the hurdles that Leslie just shared. And we're talking about sustainable results. So Leslie, what's the number one distinction that sets people up for real sustainable results? The first is understanding what their goal really is. because if you're somebody who believes that your goal is losing 50 pounds in let's say six months of time through some diets and you can only do that you cannot you know go out of this pattern just because that's your model of the world that's your model of the world that is also leading to that goal and as we already talked about that's the way of thinking of a dieter and you've already lived many years to know that the old methods and old framework of thinking is not working.

7:08Because, you know, as a dieter, you're going to be meticulously obsessed about every single calorie you eat, the carbs, the grams, and all of these things. And failure is just going to be a natural part of the outcome. Fire Nation, this is exactly why I'm bringing Leslie on the show today, because she's bringing you real talk. She's bringing you value bombs. She's going to help you get a liberating relationship with food and a lean, fit body. But I got to ask you, is it possible, Leslie, to have both that liberating relationship with food so you can be liberated with it, it's not in command of you, and a lean, fit body?

7:51Absolutely. And John, to be honest, I call my program the name Lean Instinct Formula to make a very strong point that being lean and healthy with freedom is actually your body's natural instinct. Because your body actually is equipped with natural tendency and the ability to make sure that you're not overeating. You are not being overly triggered by the food cravings as you are. A lot of these things just amplified by your psychology. And your body actually has the ability of maximize its metabolism and keep you fit for its best survival interest. The problem is that a lot of people don't realize that.

8:43And they give themselves different regimens to kind of not only deprive themselves, but also push the body into this area where it is constantly suppressed. And what that means is that its instincts get suppressed as well. So you no longer know what it feels, how it feels to be content and full without the urge of overeating. Many people come to me, even tell me that they don't even know what hunger feels. And that is the problem. You overmanage and you're stepping on your body, even though your body actually has a natural mechanism with the instinct that is ready for bringing you the success and the fitness you need.

9:31So the problem is not really, you know, how much food that I'm going to eat, how many calories I'm taking every day. It's actually how is your body wired to experience food and respond to food and, you know, eventually in the context of weight loss, utilizing food and burning the energy. so if you don't recognize the fact that it's actually your body's job to lose weight not yours you're always gonna be overly controlling and overdo things and over correct things but at the end of the day you still don't get the fundamental right because if your body is in a way and you're doing a lot of effort using a lot of techniques that's not going to change anything because you can't fight your body's natural tendency.

10:31So on the flip side, if your body has been reactivated and fully equipped for doing this work of losing the weight for you, you really don't need to do much. You can just enjoy your life, have the freedom, and have your body have the naturally correct signaling and its well-orchestrated function. doing everything for you. That's when you excuse yourself from 95 % of the work that you're doing now while still getting results. I love that mindset shift. And I hope you picked it up, Fire Nation. It's your body's job to lose this weight. It's your body's job to get lean, to get healthy. It's not yours.

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13:05See over 2 ,000 verified success stories and schedule your free one-on-one 13-point assessment with Mr. Clay Clark himself today at thrivetimeshow.com. Knowledge will not attract money unless it is organized and directed through practical plans of action. Become the next success story. Schedule your free 13-point assessment today at thrivetimeshow.com. Leslie, self-limiting beliefs have kind of been a theme of our chat today. So I want to talk right now about how we can get rid of these self-limiting beliefs once and for all. In our context and topic that we're discussing relate to weight loss and fitness and health, the major self-belief that i've seen tons of people having is actually i can't do this i don't think i can lose the weight without depriving myself i don't think i could get the level of satisfaction freedom at all and these are legit self-limiting beliefs because you have been living that kind of reality for such a long time that that it well disables you from seeing the other possibilities.

14:12Many, many methods to help you get rid of the self-limiting belief here. But what I do is actually very simple, is to create the experience that shows you the different possibility and different, I would say, reality. It is because I'll use my program, for example, so that you get a concrete idea. When people come in, what the first thing that they do is that they start setting up a routine structure. And the routine structure is designed to help them find a perfect balance between simplicity and satisfaction so they can eat whatever they want. And they don't need to count calories. And while it's also designed to help them lose the weight from the get-go, it's not about the amount of weight you lose from here it's actually about you being able to see a completely different reality a kind of experience that happens to you so that when you start realizing that i can't do this you know i can't eat the carbs that i used to dread and i can't stop counting calories but just naturally falls into a balance while still losing the weight that starts ignites this new that plants in this new seeds in your mind and now you start seeing that as a possibility and the more we reinforce it in future uh you're going to start seeing as more and more your reality and when then two beliefs are in conflict with each other, John, because sometimes people have this idea, oh, I can do it.

15:58But still, there is an old belief telling them that I can't. An old belief is not gone yet, right? They're still conflicting each other. That's why they might experience doubts from time to time. I tell my clients that the best way to fight the old beliefs is not fighting. because whenever you're fighting it when you're telling it's trying to justify that's not true you're actually giving it attention and emotional value to it and these are all energy and the best way to feel a limiting belief is to give it more energy it's just like plants okay so the way i teach my students is that you don't you acknowledge that as the legit thought it's because your past experience kind of wired you this way but just acknowledge it because acknowledgement will instantaneously bring you a sense of closure but while acknowledging it move on to the new beliefs which you're already seeing and starting manifesting and you start focusing more on that So just by not supplying energy to the old limiting beliefs will help you not experience that in the future just because without the energy, it dies.

17:24So one of the theories I really love from Dr. Joe Dispenza is that neurologically speaking, your brain only has this amount of energy that is budgeted for its daily expense for your overall brain operations. So whatever old thinking, old beliefs that you've been having actually stands for an old neural pathway that you've been holding on to for a while. And just to maintain this old neural pathway actually takes energy. Now, when you're fighting that thought, fighting that belief mentally, you're actually giving more energy to it. But what you can do as you are focusing more on the new belief that you're setting up, what happens is that, remember, you have a limited budget of energy to fill your beliefs and your pathways.

18:22with the old neural pathway, just because it's no longer getting plenty of energy for it to survive, it's going to be weakened just on its own. And gradually it dies out. And the more you focus on a new belief that you're establishing, the stronger it's going to thrive. And ultimately, the belief is just the thought that you keep thinking about. And I think that is very useful principle to hold on to. It's just a thought. It's not necessarily the fact. a lot of powerful things to think about, Fire Nation. One thing that I loved that Leslie shared is the importance of suffocating those limiting beliefs.

19:02You should be suffocating them. Don't give energy to them. Suffocate them. And I really want to end with a bang, Leslie. I want you to talk about the transition from a quote-unquote dieter to this holistically lean, healthy person. What does that transition look like? Well, at the beginning, you need to understand how to live in a way that will give you both health and satisfaction. As we just talked about, a lot of people feel like there's a natural conflict between the two, right? They don't believe they can have both. But if you can learn a method, a way that gives you both, which is highly doable, by the way, while you're still losing weight, that is going to set you up for life.

19:49It's just a one skill that will take care of you. for a long time. And then as you continue with this kind of way of living, you're going to see in your life more and more that you have the ability of living like everything kind of starts from both physical and mindset, right? Physically, when you have that structure, you don't experience a lot of mental clutter that you've been experiencing as well. It gives you structure, It makes things easy. It gives you results. Now, also, in my methodology, I also teach people how to create a different response when it comes to food cravings so that they can actually naturally mute a lot of those cravings before they come up.

20:39These are all techniques. But when you apply these techniques, you will realize that you're no longer being kept hostage by your own food triggers. Part of the key of that is realizing that food is never the problem. It's not a matter of how much food you take. It's actually about how you mentally and physically respond to food. right so when you have this experience and believe that you can live with fulfillment and satisfaction while losing weight that's just gonna become more and more manifested result for you and all of that is done by not trying even to focus on weight loss not being obsessed with that idea because as I've just said, the more you're obsessed and focused on weight loss, it brings back the old identity and way of thinking.

21:40So everything from the old self is re-triggered. And for people who are into stuff like law of attraction, I'd like to tell them that the more you're focused on weight loss, the more weight you're manifesting to lose. And I think that's very, very true in experience as well. I love just the overall theme that you, Fire Nation, can have both health and satisfaction. It's not either or. You truly can have both. So Leslie, if Fire Nation wants to connect with you, wants to learn more from you, what's your call to action for our listeners today? They can get onto my website and they can, if they're ready to get helped they can book a call with me and there is a link for that I'll share with you they can also just get onto my TikTok because there are videos that I make from time to time which shows people the way to have the outcomes we were talking about earlier and also you can join my email list because I email my people pretty often at least once or twice a week and sending value and tips and hints that they need.

22:52So there are various ways of connecting with me offline. Love that. So what is that link? www.riselian.com. And that's my website. If you want to book a call, then you just slash apply. Fire Nation, you're the average. Of the five people you spend the most time with, and you've been hanging out with LC and JLD today. So let's keep up that heat. For links to everything we talked about, visit eofire.com, type Leslie in the search bar, and the show notes page will pop right up. And Leslie, thank you for sharing your truth, your knowledge, your value with Fire Nation. For that, we salute you and we'll catch you on the flip side.

23:36Thank you so much, John. It's been a pleasure connecting with you and connecting with your audience today. And I hope what I've shared has light up some new hopes in people here. Hey, Fire Nation, a huge thank you to our sponsors and Leslie for sponsoring today's episode. And Fire Nation, are you ready to rock your very own podcast? If so, check out our free podcasting course where I will teach you how to create and launch your podcast for free. Freepodcastcourse.com. I'll catch you there or I'll catch you on the flip side. Online Marketing Made Easy podcast hosted by Amy Porterfield is brought to you by the HubSpot Podcast Network, the audio destination for business professionals.

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