From Technician to Architect: How to Escape the Trap That Keeps Experts Busy, Broke, and Burned Out with James T. Porter

0:01John Lee Dumas:Light that spark fire nation JLD here and welcome to entrepreneurs on fire brought to you by high level the all in one sales and marketing platform and today we'll be breaking down how to go from technician to architect how to escape the trap that keeps experts busy broke and burned out and to drop these value bombs. I brought James T. Porter and the EO fire studios James spent 17 years as an aerospace quality consultant, then used AI to turn expertise and do software solo. He's the author of The Architect's Shift. And today we'll be talking about escaping the expert trap, breaking the income ceiling, seeing the business hidden in your head, and oh, so much more.

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1:17John Lee Dumas:Get a 30-day free trial and my full bonus stack that includes a 15-minute private call with me and much more at highlevelfire.com. highlevelfire.com. James, say what's up to Fire Nation and share something that you believe about becoming successful that most people disagree with. Good afternoon, Fire Nation. James Porter here. And one thing I believe about success that most people might disagree with is that the path to greater success is doing more of what you're already good at. And I'm on the flip side of that coin. I think that the thing that you're usually the best at is the one thing keeping you the most trapped.

1:56John Lee Dumas:Well, Fire Nation, we're talking about that today, going from technician to architect, how to escape the trap that keeps experts busy, broke, and flipping burned out. And I want to talk about escaping the expert trap because so many brilliant experts end up becoming the bottleneck in their own business. And it's so frustrating, James. So why does that happen? And what does it really cost when you become the system instead of building one? Well, because any process or checklist that requires its creator is in the system. It's a script. So for 17 years, I wasn't running the system. I was actually operating as the system.

2:34And for those two decades, I was the person aerospace companies called when failed audits threatened decertification or they were facing issues that kept recurring and they just needed somebody to come in and really solve the problems. And I had a near perfect recovery record. But here's one thing the experts never tell you. Every single one of those clients eventually regressed and, you know, those failures pop back up. And my wake up call came by phone on one day when a client had called me 18 months after I left and said everything had collapsed again. And my first instinct was to obviously blame them.

3:14You know, they should have done more to keep the system in place, hired more people or, you know, reached out before it got to that point. But then one really late night, I started flipping through all the playbooks, the folders that I maintained on each engagement. And, you know, I had to face reality. The systems failed every time I walked out of the door because I was the system. And, you know, decades of expertise, neatly tucked away in the filing cabinet were useless to anyone that wasn't me. So that's the story behind that.

3:46John Lee Dumas:I love that. And James, we're going to dive into some cool stuff today, specifically breaking the income ceiling, because a lot of experts, they believe the path to more revenue is just charging higher rates. Like if I could just have a dime for every time someone said, yeah, just double your rates, just double your rates, just charge more money. I mean, I'd have many, many dimes. But you've actually said there's a hidden ceiling to that approach. So why doesn't raising your prices solve the real problem? And what does? If you got a dime for every time you heard it, man, I'll take three cents on that.

4:20But the issue is you'll never crack the time for money model, regardless of what your rate is. The ceiling isn't your market. It's all biological, right? You can't invoice the 25th hour and you can only work the hours that you can work. And, you know, every expert sells their time for a currency and they eventually hit the same wall and it has nothing to do with demand, right? Income, it's simple. Income equals rate times hours. And when you feel the squeeze on your calendar, you pull the only lever, you know, right? Maybe I'll just raise 20%, 40%. And unfortunately, when you do that, nothing really changes.

4:56I sat with a colleague who had been charging$500 an hour, you know, pretty much twice my rate. And she admitted that she wasn't even able to take a vacation in the past four years. So that was a bit that I wasn't going as high as her. And I just saw that that wasn't the answer. So when I sat down and, you know, did my little napkin math at the Marriott, I saw that I had the same ceiling. So my solution was to flip the model. I stopped asking what the maximum amount of money I could make per hour or engagement was and started asking, you know, based on my lifestyle and, you know, what I call my freedom number.

5:35I live a pretty relatively simple lifestyle, but, you know, what's the least amount of hours that I could work to, you know, satisfy that need. And when I started thinking in that inversion, it completely flipped what I saw was possible. And you're not chasing this arbitrary number anymore, right? It's more concrete. You know what your bills are. And I think that's a better approach, at least for me.

6:00John Lee Dumas:Sounds like a better approach for most people because of those reasons that we talked about in More to Come. And I want to talk about seeing business hidden in your head because you talk about AI uncovering the hundreds of processes that entrepreneurs, they don't even realize they're carrying around mentally inside their brains. So how exactly can AI help experts identify, document, and scale the business that's already inside their heads? Well, John, I think that's the one thing that AI excels at, right? It didn't give me the answers throughout this process. It just countered me in a way that I had never seen and found connections that I was too close to make myself, which was extremely enlightening right you can't read your own expertise and um you know it's invisible and everything becomes automatic when in second nature when you're really at the top of your game so for you to write down what you do um i tried it i wrote process maps i i did all that in the past and um it really didn't make a difference until i've had a late night engagement with an ai thinking partner that I created named Xavier.

7:15And, you know, I didn't want it to do any research and I didn't want it to answer any questions. I just focused more on extracting the expertise that I already possessed and, you know, having those sort of conversations. And, you know, it really took the form of venting, right? I told it everything I loved about performing the engagements, everything I disliked. And that initial conversation, it was able to give me some feedback and identified 23 distinct processes over four phases. And it quantified metrics I hadn't seen and identified a number of decision gates. And that initial 23 became 178, but that is where the initial shift had begun.

7:59And I'll just use you as a quick example. If you had to ask, if you would ask me, how do I film a podcast? Right. I would tell you it's five steps, right? You pull out your computer, you turn on the camera, you talk to the guy, it's done, do some editing. But in reality, man, you know, that's, you know, what you do every day. It's literally hundreds of things. And I think once you get all of that out of your head and you're able to see it and you're able to really decide what, what, what's your craft and what you need to focus on. And you can really concentrate on that 20 to 30 % and automate the rest, that's when you really become the best, right?

8:36John Lee Dumas:Yeah. For me, it's a 37 step process. And I mean, you know, a lot of those are very small steps, I will say, but a lot more than most people would think when it comes to me preparing for what I call my studio days. So James, before we move on, you know, I just want to say thank you for talking about escaping the expert trap, for talking about breaking the income ceiling, for talking about the business that's hidden inside our heads and how can we see that. But Fire Nation, we're not even close to done. We're going to be talking about building with AI, not a big team, the human bottleneck, and more when we get back from thanking our sponsors.

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10:59John Lee Dumas:Visit highlevelfire.com and start building your something today. James, we're back. And as I kind of teased before the break, let's talk about building with AI, not a big team, because you built what could have cost a five to eight person development team over half a million dollars. That's such a reality. And that's despite having no coding background or a co-founder. It was just you. It was just James. So walk us through how AI made that possible and what entrepreneurs can learn from your approach. Well, I'm certainly far from a traditional software developer. I'm just an engineer by nature and I have a deep curiosity about everything.

11:40But I built my entire system with domain expertise, a few coding agents and about$10 ,000. No co-founder, no VCs, no investments. And a good chunk of that money was wasted on making mistakes and correcting a lot of my own errors. And when I talk about the$10 ,000 build costs, I'll tell you a little bit about another mistake. So my initial approach to all this was to actually enroll in a coding bootcamp at an Ivy League school. And I spent$8 ,000. And about week three, we sent the bachelor's degree level work curriculum through an AI agent. And it spit it out within 15 minutes, and there were no errors.

12:30And, you know, after I sat back and watched the professor's face and, you know, he kind of told the class he had never seen or thought about it that way. I was like, all right, I'm just going to drop this. And, you know, that's when I decided to stop acting as a developer. Right. I don't need to build my own coding or LLMs. Right. I just need to start being better at directing them. So I made the decision to start treating them more like a junior team rather than like a research or some sort of partner that would build the best app for me. And, you know, I explained what my approach to supplier recoveries was in, you know, the AI wrote the code.

13:13So over 24 months, about 18 to 24 months after I dropped the program, you know, I built AIDIS AirShore. It's a real running quality management platform with a course and all the operational stuff going on in the background. And, you know, the all in build cost was definitely about ten thousand dollars, which, like you said, is equivalent to a five to eight person engineering team working full time for six months. But, you know, that that was last year. I would say the the efficiency gain is significantly higher than that. And, you know, that's just the concrete numbers that I was able to pull from all my progress in repos and just pulling the numbers that I had.

14:01John Lee Dumas:So, James, one thing that I was really intrigued by when we first talked was our conversation around the human bottleneck. So I want to dive deeper right now for our listeners for Fire Nation, because if we're being honest, you and I both know that technology, it can automate a lot. but you've actually said the biggest obstacle isn't technical, it's personal. So what mindset or what identity shift do entrepreneurs need to make before they can build a business that truly operates without them? Yeah, John, that's probably the biggest change that I experienced throughout this whole process. I've operated as the expert for so long and thought I was right about everything and virtually every capacity that, um, stepping back and checking my ego and, and recognizing where I was wrong was a, was a, it was a little more difficult than I wanted it to be, but yeah, it ultimately resulted in automating 87 % of my processes.

15:00And, and the way I did that was I sat down and, you know, I took all 178 after a couple of sessions, um, and began to break it down into the green, yellow, and red, right? The green would be things that the system can run automatically, whether it's like an email response or just simple things that I don't need to be involved with. I coded yellow as the things that would need to be reviewed by AI and then could be queued for me, basically human in the loop. And then the red things were the things that I felt only in my expertise could address, you know, my name and my reputation, everything was attached to it.

15:36So I needed to own it. And when Xavier ran the numbers, I was I was reviewing 100 percent of. Document review changes and when I started looking through all the procedures, seeing what sort of updates were made to my revision logs, it was they were things they were mostly administrative. and it was actually 3 % of the changes what actually needed me to be involved. So it was just busy work. And so waking up to that was huge. And then Xavier kind of convinced me that it wasn't quality assurance and I was just wearing a costume of diligence. That was a tough one to swallow. So, so, um, later that week, I redid the process again and, um, kind of tried to own up and really think about what needed my expertise.

16:33And when I, when I did that, the automation percentage jumped from 24 % to 84%. And, you know, nothing in the, in the technology changed. I didn't change AI coding agents. Um, I didn't change anything. It was just my ability and willingness to let go. So that was the, for me, that became the ceiling. And I had been holding it in place.

16:57John Lee Dumas:I love that because Fire Nation, when you are talking about becoming the human bottleneck, especially without even knowing it, you're just limiting yourself. You're putting a ceiling on your potential, which is not what we want. Because James, you know this. I know this. Fire Nation knows this. We're actually looking to design for freedom. So when you talk about engineering freedom, what does that actually look like in practice? And what's the first step an expert can take today to start building a business that's both scalable? Well, let's just say that's scalable instead of owner dependent. It really boils down to what you want out of life, right?

17:36For me, freedom isn't a hack. It's architecture. You know, I'm about two years into building mine. And I'll be honest, you know, I haven't reached the mountaintop. I'm not completely free and I'm still running the play, but I can certainly hand you the blueprint. And when I when I had talked about my my the two years where I really tore things down and began rebuilding them, I wanted to rebuild them where I wasn't at the center of everything. Right. That's where the ego had to die. I wanted to automate as much as possible and not be involved as much as possible because I want to focus on my craft.

18:13so everything is really running right now you know i have xavier the platform all the processes the the 87 workflow is automated and um you know i'm at the right now the the challenging part isn't the technology i'm well past that it's just the the discipline to stick to the course and and let it play out and you know i for me freedom is not based on the number of hours, but that's, like I said, that's an indicator of what I can comfortably live on. And the massive reduction in the hours wasn't just me finding more ideal clients or raising my rates. It's architecture. It's a system. There's the book, the course, there's things in the implementation guide.

19:06So they may not be the most lucrative activities, but I'm building a system where I could step back and not be so overworked and drained and really enjoy life a little bit more. So that's important to me. That's what freedom looks like, right?

19:23John Lee Dumas:So James, if Fire Nation is looking for that kind of freedom to design that kind of life, and they maybe want to learn more about you, learn from you, what is your call to action for our listeners today? Well, I want to give them the first step, right? It's today they can they can easily open up the AI chatbot themselves and spend 40 uninterrupted minutes just telling them, telling the agent exactly what it is that they do when they perform their services, the things that they love, the things that they hate. Maybe they have some documentation they can upload. The AI is great at reading that. But what that'll do is actually start to help them narrow down and answer the question and connect the dots as to their blind spots.

20:09Right. And then once that structure is mirrored back, then they can focus more on building a more specific or niche business. And I think that's a critical first step right there. You know, it's easy to go out there, ask the AI agent and say, I'm a medical medical consultant. How do I build the best practice? And I just went through that example with you on the podcast. Right. That's that's not what you want to do. You want the. To work with the AI in a fashion that extracts your expertise and builds your system. Um, so once they have that done, you know, the hardest part is going to be deciding what not to build, right?

20:54Because, you know, you have the technology, build virtually anything you can think of, and you just got to have some self-control and, and really focus on your minimum viable product. Um, from there, you can focus on iterating it and making it more you than the best. And, you know, that's the shift that I needed. Because I did take the initial approach that I wanted to build the best quality management system. It had to have all the bells and whistles. And that was valuable to nobody.

21:22John Lee Dumas:So, James, if Fire Nation does want to connect with you, what's the URL? Where do you want to send them? Fire Nation can definitely connect with me on thearchitectshift.com forward slash fire. I set up a new webpage that will have all of the tools that help them go through this process. Some prompts they could feed to the AI all put together as one download tool. There's a spot for them to put in their email. I'm not collecting emails. It doesn't even need to be a valid email. Just put something in and click the download button. And then on the page, there's also a link to the Amazon pre-order.

22:02So I want to give back to Fire Nation. I have to go back and look through my KDP and see what's the lowest I can offer the book for, for the Fire Nation for the first week. But it definitely in my word that whatever I can do to help get this information out and some of these tools into the community's hands and help them out, you know, I'm definitely going to do what I can on that front.

22:26John Lee Dumas:Fire Nation, you're the average of the five people you spend the most time with. You've been hanging out with JTP and JLD today. So keep up that heat. And for links to everything we talked about, visit eofire.com. Type James in the search bar. The show notes page will pop up. His website will be there. His book will be there. James, thank you for sharing your truth, knowledge, and value with Fire Nation today. For that, we salute you and we will catch you on the flip side. Hey, Fire Nation, a huge thank you to our sponsors and James for sponsoring today's episode and Fire Nation, are you an entrepreneur on fire with a high ticket offer, but not enough quality leads?

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23:56Thank you.