Trust, Intuition, and the Art of Deep Healing with Susan Shelton Tracy

0:01John Lee Dumas:Boom! Shake the room, Fire Nation. JLD here and welcome to Entrepreneurs on Fire, brought to you by High Level, the all-in-one sales and marketing platform. Today we'll be breaking down trust, intuition, and the art of deep healing. And to drop these value bombs, I have brought Susan Shelton Tracy in the EO Fire Studios. Susan is a holistic healer devoted to trust, intuition, and embodied wisdom, blending deep, playful healing with nature, love, and the unseen support, meaningful transformation in modern life. Today, we'll be talking about redefining healing, why trust comes first, the body knows first, from the natural world, intuition in the physical body, and oh, so much more.

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1:15John Lee Dumas:And when you sign up at highlevelfire.com, you get a 30-day free trial plus my exclusive bonus stack that includes weekly office hours with me and much more. Visit highlevelfire.com, highlevelfire.com. Susan, say what's up to Fire Nation. And let's start about by talking about redefining healing. Healing is just often framed as fixing what's broken. From your perspective, what does healing really mean beyond just self-improvement? Beyond self-improvement, healing can mean a lot of things for different people. Really healing starts with a trust, a trust in yourself and a trust in the natural world around you and all your connections with the world around you and the people around you.

2:10But really it starts first with connection to the self and trusting the self.

2:15John Lee Dumas:Now, let's talk about why trust actually comes first, because you teach that trust is foundational to intuition, to healing, to real change. Why is trust a starting point? And what exactly happens when it's missing? So if it's missing, the body is and the energy is tight. When you have when you don't trust your you tend to feel more afraid, you're blocking the energy flow and what is wanting to come in to to move the energy to which energy is emotion is energy in motion. So, you know, we're always in some form of flux with emotion and energy flowing around us, within us. But if you are stuck and you're not, if you're afraid, if you're not trusting the process, then it's very difficult to have what needs to come in come in.

3:26and you can't receive. So if you can't, if you don't trust the process, if you come into it, you know, some people come into a healing session or into a type of healing work where they are, you know, they want to be there. They trust that this is where they want to be and everything kind of unfolds as they get to know the practitioner or as they ease into a session or a process that they have shown up for energy healing, if that makes sense. So basically, if you don't trust the process, then you can't receive and the work won't be as profound.

4:19John Lee Dumas:So let's talk about how the body actually knows first, because you believe that long before our mind actually catches up, the body communicates truth. So how does the body signal what's real? And how can we learn to listen more accurately? sensation is information and when you are in a healing process you can feel all kinds of different sensations you're you're listening not forcing sensations could be a warmth it could be a tingling. It can be a tightness. You know, if you are in a process and things are kind of just not moving for you, you feel stuck, your body's going to be tight, you're going to be more rigid, your thoughts might be more scattered and kind of scattered about.

5:22The body knows before the mind, And so the sensations that you might feel will come up. Before a healing session, there's sensations that can come about that are signals. You know, hey, I need something. My body needs something. My energy needs something. I'm needing some support. And then when you're in a healing process supported by a practitioner and in an actual session, there's all kinds of signals that the body gives. When energy starts to move, there's warmth. There can be hot. There can be cold. There can be tingling vibrations, even sounds within the body. I've had people's stomachs starting to growl.

6:17Oh, wow. or, you know, it starts to gurgle and they're like, what's going on? It's just energy when it's moving and things are shifting in that process. You can feel things. There's no wrong answer. There's for everybody it's different. You can have a sensation that kind of moves from different parts of the body to the other. And you just have to kind of, you know, the best thing in that scenario is you're breathing and the practitioner is helping to facilitate holding space to allow this process to happen.

6:55John Lee Dumas:Can you give an actual real world example of what this looks like in real life? We don't have to use obviously any names or specific circumstances, but just paint a visual of what actually happened with you in this regard. In one example, somebody shows up for an attunement anchoring session, which is a traditional shamanic healing session. When they show up, they've come to me with something that they're needing support with. So they sit down, they talk to me about what's going on, and as they're talking, the energy around the situation is moving and coming up. and then we name an emotion around that once it's really present and up.

7:47At that point, you name the emotion and blow it into a stone from my healing bundle. It's a shamanic healing bundle that is a sacred medicine bundle. at that point they blow that emotion into the stone and we set it aside at which point i use a rattle which is a tool that shamans use and energy workers use it it works kind of like an antenna as you shake it it gathers helps gather information to pull towards you I assess the physical, emotional, spiritual and soul levels to see what I can intuit surrounding the issue at hand. And then once that is kind of captured, the client will get on the table.

8:41And I've had people, I've had clients, like one in particular, I can name a scenario where, you know, they get on the table and they already feel just a sense of comfort, you know, relaxed comfort. And they already feel just like a lot of tingling happening through the body or they say they're cold. When energy is moving, you can often start to feel cold in the body as the energy is moving around. And so at that point, what I do is I work to, once they're on the table, I make sure that their energy field is nice and clear. the energy field there's people walking around with like frazzled edges around their energy field there's a container the energy field is like a container around everybody has an energy field around them and that container if you imagine the edges of like a bubble around you there can be frazzled little holes and edges and actually larger holes.

9:59And the holes depend on, you know, there's different traumas in your life that, you know, somebody could have yelled at you in the, in traffic and startled you, or you could have had like some major trauma that happened. For instance, a, you know, a death in the family or a fight with somebody close to you.

10:22John Lee Dumas:Well, Susan, that's actually what I want to get into, which is lessons from the natural world. And we're also going to be talking about dreams, intuition, and the physical body. And of course, letting go when we get back from thanking our sponsors. Fire Nation, are you ready to make 2026 your best year yet? Are you looking to learn the proven processes and success systems that have been used to create thousands of millionaire success stories? See thousands of success stories and testimonials from real people just like you, who Clay Clark has mentored and coached into prosperity at thrivetimeshow.com slash EO fire.

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12:46John Lee Dumas:I mean, again, we're out there in the natural world. Things are going to happen. And you found that nature has its own intelligence. So what exactly does the natural world teach us about balance, teach us about love, about timing that modern life often ignores? There are a lot of mirrors in nature with the human body. And the natural world really is out there supporting us. You know, we live on this beautiful earth that is literally supporting us every day. And when we can go back out in nature and just be, you know, connected to nature by just going on a walk or swimming or just stepping outside and connecting in some way that feels good for you out in nature.

13:38If you look at things like, you know, we are the ocean, there's a certain amount of water on the earth and our bodies also have the equal amount of water. And you look at trees and the branches, the way they reach out and how they kind of mirror the way that our veins look even. You know, it's interesting how many similarities there are when you look at the human body. and, you know, animals, bodies also, and how there's just so many similarities. So the connection with the natural world is just so important. But the way that I really connected back with the natural world from after I had been sick for a long time with some chronic illness was when I started doing energy work, training as a shaman.

14:37It got me back to some practices that felt like I had done before at some point along the way in other lifetimes, maybe. I don't know. It's a really powerful practice with the ceremonies. But what I want to talk about really is there's a connection that we have when we're children, you know, the power of childhood and the way the children move with nature. I just think it's so powerful to remember that playfulness that children have and their imagination and their just genuine, you know, profound connection with nature and play and how as we grow older, some of us lose that connection. We're told we need to get our head out of the clouds and our imagination gets kind of stomped, I feel like, at some point in our lives.

15:44And some of us end up coming back to that and some stay connected and don't lose it much. But I do think there's a sensitivity and connection to the natural world that children have. And that freedom to play and to listen and to flow with nature is really powerful. So that's really what I hope that people can learn to do again.

16:11John Lee Dumas:And honestly, that's like my favorite part about having a child. Like I have a two-year-old son now. And I mean, it's like he's just bringing back that innocent joy that, you know, as adults, you know, we just don't seem to have a connection to. And I mean, I waited till I was 43 years old to have a son. So I was like well into adulthood. And now he's here and it's just like every day, like you get to see the world through their eyes. It's just the innocence, the wonder, the magic that for some reason we just lose as humans, as adults. And that's so sad. So I love connecting like that. and kind of makes me want to move into dreams, into intuition, into the physical body.

16:50John Lee Dumas:So Susan, how do dreams show up physically? And let's talk about how they can guide our waking decisions and directions. Okay. So this was one of my, this is one of my favorite subjects. Dreams, you know, we have, we have waking dreams, daytime life, and then we have dreams in the nighttime. And I like to have people think about it as the waking dreams because it really, you know, some people don't dream, don't remember their dreams as much as others. But, you know, when you're there are there's a profound connection that you can make when you start paying attention to your nighttime dreaming and your daytime dreaming and making connections within that.

17:39you can track symptoms and occurrences within your life they dreams speak through sensation and intuition shows up in the body and it can be used as you know practical guidance listening to the changes and how we move through life if you ever notice like you have you have and you wake up and you're like, wow, what just happened? I like to, you know, keep a dream journal. I suggest that people do that. It's really interesting what you start to notice that shows up. And sometimes it can be super subtle. It's like, you know, you wake up and you're like, wow, my shoulder hurts. I haven't felt that shoulder pain in a while.

18:23Like, oh, this came back from some other, you know, remembering some other time when you have had that same shoulder pain and you pay attention to like, how did you feel when you woke up emotionally? What do you remember from your dream? Are there colors? Are there symbols? Is there a conversation, a word? I mean, there's nothing that can be too insignificant. There might be a song. And then, you know, you write these things down and you pay attention and then you start to notice, you know, you might notice a song on the radio that keeps saying the same word over and over again. And it reminds you of a part of your dream.

19:02There really are magical moments. If you just pay attention to what the world is trying to show you, what your intuition is trying to show you, what the unseen world is trying to show you, it's really profound and can be a really powerful guide.

19:21John Lee Dumas:Fire Nation, I hope that you're taking these guides and really running with them because Because I mean, these can be messages for you to listen to, to understand and to plan with potentially. And Susan, of course, there's so much we could talk about. You have so much passion and knowledge on this topic. So if Fire Nation is listening right now and they're really connecting with you and they want to learn more, they want to connect with you, they want to learn more about you and your business. What is your call to action for our listeners today? You can find me on susantraceyhealing.com. I'm also on Instagram and LinkedIn and on Facebook.

20:02John Lee Dumas:Fire Nation, you are the average of the five people you spend the most time with. You've been hanging out with SST and JLD today, so keep up the heat. And for links to everything we talked about, visit eofire.com, type Susan, S-U-S-A-N in the search bar and the show notes page will pop right up. And Susan, thank you for sharing your truth, your knowledge, your value with Fire Nation today. For that, we salute you and we'll catch you on the flip side. Thank you so much. Hey, Fire Nation, a huge thank you to our sponsors and Susan for sponsoring today's episode. And Fire Nation, are you an entrepreneur on fire who's looking to share your amazing message with the world?

20:38John Lee Dumas:If yes, we are now accepting applications for entrepreneurs on fire. To learn more about becoming a guest, visit eofire.com slash guest, and I'll catch you there or on the flip side. Fire Nation, are you ready to make 2026 your best year yet? It's time to start your transformation by attending the world's highest rated business growth conference taught personally by Clay Clark and featuring football star and entrepreneur Tim Tebow and President Trump's son, Eric Trump at thrivetimeshow.com slash EO Fire. Again, request life-changing tickets today at thrivetimeshow.com slash EO Fire. Stop duct taping your business together.

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