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26:47His know-how, his experience, his understanding of the game in those big, big games can only bode well for England. Yeah, Phil, obviously you're back in England, so you'll have seen some of those media reports of the situation with Jude Bellingham and one journalist in particular calling for Jude Bellingham to not be called up and to not go to the World Cup next summer. What do you think of reports like that? Look, Jude Bellingham is a world, world-class player. There's no denying that and getting away from that. But you have Jude Bellingham, you have Cole Palmer, you have Phil Foden, you have Morgan Rodgers.

27:21And I've got to say, if I'm being totally honest now and you're asking me who's the player to start in the 10th position over the games that I've seen recently in form, I would go Morgan Rodgers. I think he's been exceptional. I love the way he carries the ball. He's big, he's strong. He's like the old Moussa Dembele who played for Tottenham. But, you know, he picks up positions on the pitch. He gets turned. He arrives in the box at a good time. He scores goals. He's a presence. But you also have Cole Palmer, Phil Foden, and obviously Bellingham you touched on. So it's difficult. But one thing he won't do, and I think he's proven that in the last few games and the few camps that we've seen, he's not just going to put them all on the team just for the sake of putting your best players on the pitch.

28:01It won't work like that under him. And that's the big thing that I really like for him that I've seen so far. All right, before we let go on. I was going to say, I don't know why people get their knickers and the twist with this Jude Bellingham. It's not a report. it was an opinion piece. It's an opinion. I don't agree with that opinion and other people can agree. And that was, but then there have been other reports that he's not a team player, that he's not doing his fair share of the media duties. There are other reports that obviously have been coming out. All I'm saying is that particular journalist wrote an opinion piece that was his opinion.

28:32Most people would, I think, would disagree with it. I do agree with Phil that he's not... I think he will play Jude Bellingham as long as his Real Madrid form is good and he's fit. I think he will, but I don't think he's placing the team as like 100%. I think if he falls off, if his levels drop a little bit, there are other players like Morgan Rodgers that could come in or Eze from Arsenal or Phil Foden or whoever it is. There's a plethora of players that could come in for England. But that piece that was written was an opinion piece and correct me if I'm wrong, but people are entitled to their opinion and people are entitled to disagree with that.

29:12And we're going to find out about Thomas Tuchel when we get to the World Cup with big decisions, with tactical changes, particularly when you get to the nitty-gritty, the quarters and the semis, and the elite teams are there. But spare me, please spare me, this magnificent job that Thomas Tuchel has done thus far, because England always smash teams in their group. Who was it they played? Albania? Who else? Was it Latvia? Finland? Greece? Who the hell did they play? I can't remember who they played. I expect England to take these teams apart. And they did. And generally England do that. England qualify for major tournaments with aplomb.

29:49Normally very easily. Where they have fallen, obviously since 1966, when they won the World Cup, controversially it has to be said, where they have fallen flat is at these big moments, whether it be a penalty kick shootout like it was in 1990 or the Euros in 1996, or whether it was a semi-final against Croatia when it was clear Gary Southgate had to make some big tactical changes to that, particularly to the midfield because Croatia were overrunning them in the middle of the park and he did not do that and they lost. Whether Thomas Tuchel, and he should be because he's more experienced, he should be the man that when it's gone wrong, if it's gone wrong for England, can make those changes to affect the game.

30:36but we will not know that until whenever it is the start of July when it gets to the nitty gritty of this World Cup and then we're going to find out if Thomas Tuchel is the man to take England to the next level well before we do let you go Phil and seeing as though we are on that topic is this the year for England, can they go on and win the World Cup? yeah it's the biggest question I'm always going to back them, I say it every year but hopefully this is the year they can finally get over the line Lovely. It's coming home. What's a success for Scotland? Is that where it's going? He's got a question for you.

31:11What? Go on, Phil. What's a success for Scotland? What's a successful tournament for Scotland? Turning up.

31:21Staying sober. Not displacing yourself. I love the little chuckle for Phil when he started talking about the controversial World Cup win, spoken like a true Scotsman. Phil, it's been great to have you on. Thank you so much for joining us. And yes, hopefully he's right about England in 2020. Thank you. Take care. I'm not sure. We'll certainly find out. World Cup draw specials coming up tomorrow. YouTube for live coverage of the draw from 1230 Eastern. Also on ESPN2 from 4 Eastern. We will be recapping everything that we've seen in the draw and breaking it all down for you. Be sure to catch us. In today's world, planning ahead isn't always top of mind.

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35:17so yeah I think they have a chance granted having to fly 6 ,000 miles across the the country isn't going to help a whole lot and that's going to give a big advantage to Miami but and it's obviously the MLS has wanted Miami in this final since since Messi got there and they wanted to keep advertising that and to continue to push that more than just here he is can he be here and win titles and this gives him a great opportunity to do that at home so obviously that's mls cup chat we need to talk about the usa because it is the draw now you're going to be involved in our coverage tomorrow with us casey with all eyes on how things play out for the us men's national team pretty much the same as how england are looking and they can get because obviously they are also in pot one what do you want one no they held their host host nation all host stories in Pot one.

36:09Oh, Snaysha, who would you want to avoid? Same question that we asked Phil Jones. I think everybody wants to avoid Norway. Nobody wants that coming out of pot three. And then I think for other reasons, and we've played them a couple different times in different World Cups, but Iran is a hassle with the geopolitical situation. So I would love to avoid Iran as well, just for different reasons instead of necessarily playing reasons. Do you think? Pot two, probably you're looking at maybe Croatia. Not at their best. Switzerland? Switzerland hammered us in the summer, so I'm not sure if that's a fun...

36:47Senegal? Australia, maybe. Where's the crew selling this? No, we can't, because we can't play another CONCACAF country. Oh, yes. So... Only the European, you wait for two. Now, I should know this, really, but I don't. Have they made changes... They seem to be making changes to who can play who, who can't play against each other. Am I right in saying that? I was going to ask you to explain that on the draft tomorrow. No, I think how it works is there can be two European teams in a group, but there can't be any two teams from the same region other than Europe. OK. Ah, I don't like that draw. Oh, no, I don't like that one.

37:29Oh, LA, no. But then there's part of it, Shaka, that you think they're at home. You kind of want those groups. Obviously, the US fans might not want, but it would be nice to see them against some big teams, given that they're the host nation. No, not from a U.S.

37:42Phil Jones:perspective, no. I mean, if they're... They just want it as easy as possible. Absolutely. And rightly so. I think everybody's the same in that regard. I mean, in theory, it's great to pull the Spains and France and if you could have all of them in that one group and great. But from a player perspective and in Sydney, in terms of going far the competition perspective, you want those early games to be as easy as possible. If you go deep in the competition, you have no choice but to meet some of those bigger nations. But early on, you try and avoid those as best you can. I'm sort of the opposite mindset to that.

38:18You want to meet the big guys? I was lucky enough. You played in Euro 96 and France 90. Euro 96, we had Holland, England, which was a marquee game because the tournament was in England. And it was Scotland, England. And we had Switzerland in the last game, who were a good side. in France 98 we got Brazil we were able to we were lucky enough to open the tournament the opening ceremony and I just feel that as a player sometimes you're lucky to go to two or three World Cups maybe maybe more sometimes you might not see a World Cup it might be one and I always feel that you want the marquee games if you're at a World Cup you want to be you're on the biggest stage and you want to be on the biggest stage with the biggest players.

38:59Right. And that's your test. You know, when we got Brazil, yeah, you're worried about it and you're nervous because that was the Brazil with Ronaldo and Roberto Carlos and Reval. But that's the test of a World Cup rather than, if I'm going to go out a World Cup, if the U.S. are going to get knocked out or Scotland are going to get knocked out as we did, I don't want to go out against Iran and Austria. See, Craig, I want to kind of split the difference. I want to say, okay, maybe there's a marquee team in your group. Yes. And then some teams that you can beat and get results against so you still have a chance of going through.

39:33So if you can do a combo... If you beat a Croatia or a Morocco, imagine the confidence boost that would give the US. Yeah, and imagine losing by four, and what happens then when you have to play two teams that you're supposed to beat?

39:44Phil Jones:No, that's the thing. You have a marquee team, great, on paper, but you finish second in the group, all of a sudden that run in from there and gets a whole lot more difficult. Now, I've said, I think for the US to have a good World Cup, you get to the quarterfinals. If you get to the semifinal, that's outstanding. But you finish second in your group to a marquee team. I think you open yourself for a whole lot of criticism. Or to Craig's point, you draw a Brazil, a Norway, and a Uruguay in that group. It does not matter to the public that we can say, listen, that was a group of death, and we're out in the group stage.

40:22Phil Jones:That will not wash. that will not cover anything for Pochettino in terms of a failure to progress. But I still think there has to be a realization, though. I mean, are you right now saying the U.S. is the eighth best, is a top eight team in the world? So they should be in a quarterfinal because they're a top eight team in the world. I'm just saying. I'm just saying. I still think there's a point where. There's an expectation of this U.S. team who have been. We were talking about getting better. They've been a lot better in the last four games. Something like that. Something like that. But even at that, if there's an expectation that they're going to go to the semi-final, then people have been getting fed the wrong fish.

40:59I agree with you. I agree with you. But if you do, I agree with you. I think if you can get a marquee team in your group and then other teams that are kind of similar level, then I think you're going to give yourself a chance. But if you're coming into a tournament and you're worried about who you're going to get, and you're hoping that you get the weakest teams, That's telling me that you've got a mindset that you don't think you're good enough in the first place. Well, let's go back to the last World Cup. And you look at it in Qatar, and you look at the U.S.'s draw. And you look at England, Wales, and Iran.

41:34I say the U.S., yeah, you should probably get out of that group. You'd probably get some results against Wales, against Iran, to get yourself through. Okay, you scrap a nil-nil draw against England. Great. Then you come up against the Dutch in round two. Do you say the U.S. should beat the Dutch in a knockout stage?

41:58Phil Jones:I don't, but the U.S. will criticize for not advancing any further. Right. But that's, yeah. By the U.S. soccer support. I'm saying could the U.S. have beaten that Dutch side? Well, yeah, on the day, maybe, if things go the right way. But I wouldn't look at it necessarily and say, yes, you should beat that team. And so I think that's the... Now, because of the way results went in Korea, we had it. If results had gone a little bit different, we would have played Italy in the knockout rounds. Instead, because of the way results went, we played Mexico and we'd been having a ton of success against Mexico at that stage.

42:38So we beat Mexico and got to a quarterfinal. So I still look at it from a perspective of who were we matched up against and could we or should we? And when I look at Wales and I look at Iran, I say, yes, we should. When I go to, let's go back to Brazil. You're playing Cristiano Ronaldo Portugal. You're playing Germany, the next winners and a Ghana team that's given you a lot of trouble. So I look at that and I say, should you? No. But they did. And then they played against a very good Belgian side, which you're going to say took it to extra time, had opportunities late in the match to maybe steal it.

43:18But I'm still not looking at that going, yes, you should beat a very talented Belgian side to get to a quarterfinal. A player's perspective is not everybody because clearly Xhaka wants the easy route. Yeah, I do. You want to step in the big stage and you want to, I think, you want to play against the elites if you can. But we know who doesn't want that. The managers. Yeah. They don't because their backside is on the line. It's on fire. You know, they're the ones that are, the buck's going to stop with them. So they're looking at this draw, what day is it, tomorrow? They're looking at this draw tomorrow.

43:55I'm very excited about it. And it's going to be a long drawn-out affair. Very excited about that too. That's just us.

44:06And those managers are looking and going, give me something, give me something to work with. They don't want Argentina and Spain and France and all these teams, maybe even Brazil, although they're not the best, they don't want them but I think as a player you're at a World Cup you don't want Trinidad and Tobago, do you? You want Brazil and Argentina

44:27Phil Jones:You're not getting us, that's for sure Let me just say US as hosts, you start with 48 teams and then you go down to 32 and I don't think anybody's realistically saying at this point that the US should get to a semi-final I'm saying they should or the expectation is at least a quarter-final If you go from 48 to 32, and then you only win one more game from there on in as hosts, I guarantee the outcry against Pochettino will be deafening. Well, that depends who they get. I don't think so. I agree with you, Greg. I think it depends on who they get. Fine for us, but I think regardless of who they get, they win one more game outside of that group stage, the outcry will be deafening.

45:12Did you say something about Scotland there? Yeah, they might get Scotland. Derogatory? No, I just said, I'm in Scotland, that's how you read it. By any chance? Is it sort of a sarcastic, tongue-in-cheek? Craig, I'm a quarter Scottish. I'm a quarter Scottish. Don't claim that now.

45:27Phil Jones:I've got a Scottish friend, you know. Oh, goodness. You got a Scottish terrier. Oh, boy. Scottish friend, Dad. Oh, man. Where did that come from? How many mums and dads have you got? I played golf at St Andrews one time. But the tight stands, they could get them. Well, allow me to tell you, we're not accepting you. Let Stevie on the phone. Quarter Scotty. My backside. Come on. I think I can play for Trinidad. I am a quarter. Trinidad and Sabagan. Come on in. Come on in. Come on in. Never heard that one before. You never heard it? Where do you think my last name's from? What? Murray. Got a tartan and everything.

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47:49Pick around Extra Time's on the way next. The boys will be answering your questions.

47:56Welcome into the latest edition of Extra Time. We have Craig Burley, Shaka Hislop and Casey Keller here in the studio.

48:03Phil Jones:I'm Italian. I do some of these. That means I'm Italian. One of these too. Yeah, yeah. One of these. One of these. Yeah. What's your Spanish signal? What's your Spanish signal? What is your Spanish signal? Well, you lived there, really. I don't know if they had the dog. It was gesticulating. What are you doing there, too? I don't think we can do it on air. It's more words that they use, words that we probably can't say. Yeah, that was probably best. Quarter challenge. No, quarter Spanish. But I would be eligible for an Italian passport. Quarter Spanish. found out five minutes ago you're a quarter scottish yeah yeah don't know if it's because my granddad's from airship here's a good six quarters of something yes she's got six quarters of different things is it dawn quarters seven of them yeah there's some math there he played for those your granddad was from airship yeah you know where about i actually do have it written down somewhere and i told stevie once but I'll find it for you.

49:04A lot of my family is still up in Scotland on my dad's side.

49:07Phil Jones:I'm trying to make a kiss of Greg. I know, I know. You abide it. You abide it. All that matters, England plays Scotland. What jersey do you have on? England. You don't have a little quarter Scottish? I don't know. You don't have a little quarter Scottish in your jersey? I don't want them to do badly unless they play England. That's all. I don't think you have to worry about it. Okay. For Xhaka, which former club of yours has had the most disappointing season so far? Newcastle or West Ham? West Ham are not a good team, that's just being blunt. I still think Newcastle have it in them to turn the season around.

49:43Phil Jones:They've actually played better at times than their league position suggests, but that's an easy answer, West Ham. If Liverpool decided to part ways with Arna Slott, which of these managers should they go for? Oliver Glasner, Unai Emery or Andoni Iraiola?

50:03I go I'm torn between Emery and I'm all honesty but I'm gonna lean here I feel like Craig's a big fan of the last two as well Emery and I am I'm not really a fan of anybody except extra Maduro I hate everybody equally when people stop hating on me life's over Literally. So, no, I like, I like, I do, Glasner, Dunnegrave, they've all done amazing jobs. I mean, Bournemouth have had a couple of patchy results recently, but bear in mind they lost Zabania to PSG amongst others, they lost Hoisin to Real Madrid and Kirkes to Liverpool. There's three, you're back four. So, and probably one of the smallest clubs in England.

51:11So they still, at one point they were in the top four, they've dropped down about since. there's no doubt he's an excellent manager I just wonder with Unai Emery will he get another and I don't mean this disrespectfully to Aston Villa but will he be at another club like he was at Arsenal he was at PSG would that be something that Liverpool would take into account whether he's had that opportunity and maybe he is better suited to where was it, Sevilla? Unai Emery Villarreal He started at Almeria Yeah, but he won. Did he not win the Europa League with Sevilla? Then he was at Villarreal. Villay took from, I think, second bottom.

51:50Yeah. That seems to be where he does his best work. You know? And he's had the opportunities at the big boys. And I wonder if that would be against. If, of course, we get to the stage that Arne Sloat is going to lose his job. Which I think we're still as bad as Liverpool are at the moment. I still think we're some ways away from that. Okay. We're a quarter away. Quarter away. Yeah, yeah.

52:12Phil Jones:Another quarter. another glass we ate quarters now you're not taking it seriously guys Scottish blood and roots Katie how do you think Wilfred Nancy will do at Celtic well I mean it will be a little bit of a jump obviously from MLS um is Celtic super dominant right now no so it's not like he's coming into a side that then it's just kind of really easy you can kind of make mistakes and be able to so So there'll be an expectation very quickly of him to be able to figure out how they can then win the title. I mean, I think hearts are starting to slip a little bit, Craig, do you think? Yeah. I mean, obviously, I called the game with Donaldson yesterday, and he was half calling our game and half watching the hearts match.

53:02So, yeah. And what kind of money do they have to be able to strengthen? Are you suggesting that the commentator has been slightly unprofessional during the game? Hearts were eight points clear, and that was one of the reasons that Brendan Rodgers lost his job. But there was other things that were behind the scenes political. But the task of Hearts keeping up for the whole season, there's a better chance of Celtic coming through. Correct. What Wilford Nancy is going to learn is a lot of new phrases in Glasgow. Hey, you bidey, we. I think the best part is it'll take him about two years if he's there long enough to actually understand what's being said to him.

53:40He'll go home to the family or whatever, go in the dressing room and say, I think the Celtic fans were just complimenting. No, they were not. You better beat Rangers or you'll get the Malky. Push!

53:55Phil Jones:What's that? A Malky. See? A Malky in Scotland. If she was half Scottish, she'd know. I thought you were five years Scottish. Glasgow, which is a hardened city, and I played there for two and a half years. The Malkie is, they call it a Glasgow kiss. Nice little headbutt. This is not my, I don't condone this, but it's a headbutt. Bosh, right in the head, whoa, it hurts, right? You see it on the football field. So they call that the Malkie. You want the Malkie. Now, they can up that. If you're in a bar, they can offer you the severe Malkie. I'll take it that's coming with a run-up. Bosh! That's got nose splattered all the place.

54:38So he's going to, yeah. Is there any money there? Like January to strengthen the squad? Celtic have money, but part of the ira of the lads, as you know, Celtic support, is the board won't spend the money. They spend enough to win the Scottish title. Right. But they won't spend to take them to another level. So, you know. But they are still in better shape than other teams. He should have success there. Ahead of the draw, what nations would... You can call me if you want. 30 years ago. Ahead of the draw, what nations would you consider to be dark horses of the 2026 World Cup? No way. No way, for sure.

55:26Easy answer to that. The strike force between Holland and Sorlott is going to scare a lot of teams when they're in your group. Italy. Oh, they're not there yet. Are we allowed to call Italy a dark horse? To get there, maybe, to get to the World Cup? I had several discussions, shall we say, with your husband when he used to, when he walked here about Italy, but she got a little bit upset. A wee bit upset. Well, he did and I'd offer them the Malky. Can a Morocco or somebody like that kind of replicate what they did in the last World Cup? I think a team like Croatia, I don't think, is what they were when they got to the final.

56:12So yeah, I think Norway is the clear and present team. Never ever underestimate Morocco. Okay. Scotland, Craig? Where's it live by, Craig? Because we did. We thought they were gubbins. Turns out, they were not. They're still not. OK, Casey and Xhaka, what's the worst own goal you've ever conceded, whether by you or a teammate? I only conceded one own goal in my whole career. Really? And, yeah, and it was... Yeah, but as a goalkeeper, are you conceding an own goal? I mean, if I throw it in my own net, which is basically what I did in this one time. I think the question is who scored the best own goal that you could do nothing about?

56:58Probably the one I scored on myself. Sounders, little balls coming through and players come from the other side so I was afraid of how I was going to kind of put it in an area. So I thought okay I'll just hook it wide of the goal and then just defend the corner and I hooked it a little too much and hooked it right into my own goal.

57:21Phil Jones:Oh that's a doozy. But what made it worse is somehow it got archived in a Fifty Shades of Grey novel because something took place in Seattle and somebody was reading something to their father about the results. And it just happened to be reading the only own goal I had. So I had a bunch of people getting a hold of me. So you starring in Fifty Shades of Grey? In like the third novel. So I'm getting all these comments from people saying, you're in the Fifty Shades of Grey novel. But for you, it would have been 49 shades. It was a shade of grey of me throwing a ball at my own. Fifty Shades of Grey, that's a book, isn't it?

58:14Oh, yeah. Okay. You didn't know that. I don't know anything about Fifty Shades of Grey either. I don't know anything about that. Now, have you got anything that took you into some film star? You must have. I mean, you must have chucked at least 20 in your own. I'm not having it up, it's any less. I mean, you do it just for...

58:39Phil Jones:I've had enough of this. I loved that you were like, only one? Right, no, hold on. Have you got any that got you in some sort of... They were compromising situations. You didn't get any like... No, I can't... Well, I can't remember conceding any own goals. I remember conceding, well, one, but it was pre-season. It's actually my first game back after I broke my leg, playing Exeter or something. Free kick off the post into my back. On the back of the head, back, whatever. Yeah, and in. And that... I'm sure I have, I just carried my belly. You probably have. Craig, own goal? He's not appeared in any shady books.

59:20Phil Jones:Shades books. Dan hates me talking about this. I scored a 94 twice at the Cop End at Liverpool. Once in the first half, at the back post, I was squeezed in between, I think it was Fowler and John Barnes. Dimitri Karim was in goal, the Russian number one. And that ball came up and I tried to nogger it out for a corner. And I got a bit too much meat on the back. And I came in at halftime and Dimitri, who was English, got a bit better then. He said, was that you? He didn't know. And I went, yeah. And he started laughing. And then I scored at the other end. I'd rather talk about the volley I scored from 25 yards.

1:00:09Okay. But no, yeah, I scored at Anfield. Was that a don, 25 yards? There is television proof of a left foot volley past David James into the top corner at Anfield Cup End. At which point you can see people in the cup applauding. What's more of an actual Scott?

1:00:35I'll tell you one of the best ones quickly. Glenn Huddle had this idea, I think I've told this one on here. Glenn had this idea that I was going to play sweeper in a game. Right? Because we played a back three. Okay. She said, you can pass the ball. You can go back there. What I'll do is I'll play you in the reserves on Monday at Kingstonian. We were playing a reserve game against somebody. He said, I'll play you for an hour and that at sweeper just so you can get a feel for it. And Blackburn away or whatever it was on the Saturday, you're playing sweeper. I said, yeah, all right. I'm thinking sweeper, not much running around.

1:01:07Happy days. Not like midfield. Ten minutes in, jack to this reserve game somebody's played the ball down the left-hand channel I've come across sweeping up this is easy play the black player back past blade to Kevin Hitchcock who was and this ball rolled a turn round and it was just rolling into the back of the net at that point

1:01:39back into the middle of the park was that because Glenn did it for Swindon when he kind of later in his career kind of dropped back he didn't have the legs for it then so I got the experiment and it failed never got out of the Kingstonian okay goalkeepers union start bench drop what have I done to my mic I don't know They're gonna hear you apparently. Iker Courtois Navas.

1:02:11Phil Jones:Oh boy. Munch up. Iker Courtois Navas. Love me some Kela Navas. I'm gonna go... Who's Iker? Casillas? Yeah. Oh man. Why am I getting involved? I'm gonna go... Prime Iker. You're gonna what, Iker? Prime Ica. Prime Ica. Imagine them all in that prime now. I've asked a girl from Ica Casillas, right? They should be all in their prime on this question. It's got to be Courtois, isn't it? No. Sorry. No, you're fine. No, I'm sorry. I'm overreaching again. Not at all. I bet you guys, when we talk about goalkeepers, you must... Well, I know you do. Casey gets more... No, I think, oh, God, no. You know, when we're sitting here, I'm going, I shouldn't be getting beaten at the near post.

1:02:58These two are probably going, what the hell? What the hell do those... Like, right.

1:03:04Phil Jones:He was picking on a goalie for getting through his legs from half an inch. And he stopped it actually. And then the guy had to come around and... Through his legs, oh boy, through his legs, that goalie. What's your three? I'm going to go... Framica, Courtois, Navas. I think it's hard because if you're looking at like Real Madrid, Casillas is impossible to take out of that equation. Cotoa is doing his best to try, but I think just the Spanish legend playing for the Spanish club is tough to beat. Navas, I felt, was moved out when he shouldn't have, simply because he was Costa Rican and it was easy to do something.

1:03:49So I feel bad for Navas, but unfortunately, I'd have to stick with Xhaka with the lineup.

1:03:57Phil Jones:That's a tough cause. Navas was far better than I think people are going to cry for. Yep. What the hell do you... What the hell do you... Oh, we could stay here talking about goalies all day long, don't we? I am a quarter goalkeeper. Oh, good. To the panel, what were your dream cars growing up? You could catch a beach ball in a telephone box. What were your dream cars growing up in? Did you get it during your playing days? My dream car growing up was a Porsche 959. And I needed to be a striker and not a goalkeeper to eventually put that into my garage. So, yeah, I was always a Porsche guy. I still have a Porsche.

1:04:34I enjoy it. But there's always that level of Porsche that you need to have been the owner of the team as opposed to a player for the team. You need to be a midfielder come sweeper. That's true. I don't have a dream car. I'm just a man of the people. So you didn't have a Maserati? I didn't have a Maserati, no.

1:04:58Phil Jones:No, I refuse. I didn't have a Maserati. My dream car was a Porsche. I'm in case this can't be. And no, I never owned it. Oh, you buy a second-hand one? What did you buy for me? Mid-fielder come sweeper. No dream car? No. Not really, no. And that was me. That bothered us. You know. I mean, can you imagine Craig in a Lamborghini? with the flip of doors oh like an old coon top with this jacket up like maybe some miami vice style coming out and give the valley a super malky yeah material things not bothered um does shaka know how much he's loved by us oh it is today's been today's been good day a good day nice it's been a good day it was a lovely message you put out thank you know this yesterday was a good yesterday was a really good day and it was great to see the response you got as well it was it really was it really was yeah okay well thanks for that mitch i think that tells you what kind of shape this shows in when nicol and burleigh are the two in the best That's a problem.

1:06:14I mean, have you seen his diet? I think it might be the Scottish diet.

1:06:19Phil Jones:You think that's it? It just kills everything? I honestly think it's because he has home. Let's be honest. If you have haggis. You can keep it in the life. If you eat haggis, you're all right. You've got to be tough. Yeah, you're good. What was it somebody said to him yesterday? Yours is just going to be a big one. Down he goes. That was Dan that said it. Oh, they're horrible people. Oh, my goodness. Think about all that cholesterol. Think about all the cholesterol. No, no, we're not going there. He's making it to 2030 at least. It's been well established on the show, OK? Is that how low the bar is?

1:06:53Phil Jones:Well, he's sitting himself. He's sitting there still alive. And we questioned him. OK, we're going to end this. Thank you so much for sending in your questions. Actually, I'm not going to say that. Please don't. I don't know where it's going. See you tomorrow for the World Cup draw.

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