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21:06But then beyond that, when you strip that away, more than that, it's about the lived experience. And obviously, I think one of the things that they've been keen to stress, and Andy in particular talking very clearly about this, is that part of what you see as your development project for Mallorca is the introduction, if you like, of American-style approach to sport as entertainment. So things like VIP areas in the stadium, things like lounges where you can see the game from a different perspective. They've got this pitch side club thing and the tunnel club where you can get really close to the players on the way out.

21:37And of course, those are VIP packages. But he said that perhaps differently in Europe to in the US, you have to make sure that that doesn't get in the way of your legacy fans. It doesn't get in the way of the core group who are there all the time. And I think there's a certain satisfaction because of the redevelopment of the stadium. It had a running track. the two ends were a very long way from the pitch they brought that closer so I think it's been successful so far in both terms not just in terms of kind of if you like chasing that extra investment that an island like Mallorca can give you but also trying to ensure that this doesn't mean disenfranchising your legacy fans.

22:12What games are you going to this weekend, Zed?

22:16So I will be at Villarreal Real Madrid on Saturday and then I'll be getting the train up the coast to see that game that you I don't like your tone Dan Thomas suggesting that it would be easy for Barcelona and if it's a good time to lose Pedri, it's when you play against the might of Real Oviedo. You're not taking Charlie, are you? Your son's not going to put him through that, are you? Barcelona Oviedo? Well, of course I am. He's spent his entire life watching Oviedo in the second division. You get the chance to go to the Camp Nou. Poor kid. All right, Sid, thank you very much. Just to remind you, you can see a lot more of Sid in the Football Americas special reflecting on 10 years the ownership of Mallorca.

22:55That's available now on ESPN+.

23:02Right then, here we go. It is Manchester City who's in second at the moment. I don't know why I went for them first. I meant to say it's Arsenal sitting top of the table as they play host to Manchester United who come into the game of the back of that win, obviously, against City. That is the big game in the Premier League this weekend. As we welcome in, Robbo is still with us. Julianne Laurent joins us as well. Jules I imagine the vibe going into this from a United perspective is a lot more optimistic than it was a week ago yeah absolutely a lot of positivity obviously after the win in the derby last weekend the whole week as well to prepare for this game at the Emirates Arsenal remember when Michael Carrick back in 2021 first had his interim period as a United coach he also went to the Emirates and beat Mikel Arteta by the way on that day so let's see if he can do it again on Sunday but it's obviously a luxury usually clubs like Manchester United don't have a whole week to prepare for league games because they're usually in Europe that's not the case we've mentioned that many times on the show it's a big advantage for them I don't expect the game plan and the tactics to change much from what we saw against City to be fair I still think Carrick would pick the same system that 4-2-3-1 probably even the same 11 that worked really well and probably play with the same block and in transition because that worked really well against City and I think he would work as well at the MLS against Arsenal so very interesting tactical battle because we also know already apart from maybe who's going to be the number nine what Michael Arteta and Arsenal will do if United play like they did last weekend Robbo will they get something from this game is it as simple as that I think last week they played very well and and Jules just said it but they played with intensity they played with an understanding what they were trying to do they sometimes press the ball they sometimes dropped off but they were also helped by a Man City side that the back four weren't particularly comfortable on the ball so they didn't cause United any problems when they had the ball at the back and were coming out and when Manchester United did go and press them they won the ball back quite simply and they played very well on the counter-attack as you can see with this goal they've got four players that are racing forward so it was a more athletic side it was a more disciplined side players played to their best level and it was a very good performance but can they do that against a very good Arsenal side I think it's going to be more difficult for them I don't think they'll be able to play with the same sort of ability to counter-attack I don't think they wouldn't will win so many balls back because I'll snort the moment are playing very well and they're playing some great football at times I know you think there's sometimes boring but they're playing very efficient football at moment thanks Sarah and overall what does he need to change then to address that from Arsenal carry yeah carry has to somehow get them in the same frame of mind they were in last weekend at home and he somehow has to change their mentality because last week they never got punched in the nose by City.

25:53You know they're going to get it against Arsenal because Arsenal will absolutely be on their toes considering what happened last week against City. So the key for Carrick is he'll find out how strong mentally this team is. Was it Ten Hag? Was it Amarine? Is that where the problem was? It wasn't the players. Well, we'll find out because Arsenal absolutely are going to give them a punch and we will see whether last week is just a one-off or whether there's actually some substance to what they did last week. I'm not so sure Man United are going to produce what they did last week. I think it's a one-off.

26:31All right. Wow. Let's take a look at the predictions then. So, obviously, Stevie, you've gone for an Arsenal victory. A convincing victory? I think so. 3-1. Listen, Man United were absolutely gassed. Yes, it was a great performance, but they were running out of steam. They've had a week to recover. Arsenal have had a game against Marseille midweek. Aye, aye. But this is all about the mentality of Man United. Because we know what Arsenal are going to be like. That is the key. Let's see what happens when Arsenal... If Arsenal go ahead, will this Man United side do what they've been doing for the last few years and not have the stomach for it and just get completely outplayed.

27:14I just think, Robbo, you've gone for 3-1 as well. What we've seen from Arsenal in big games is that they don't exactly then push on. The exception, of course, being Aston Villa. But apart from that, it seems when they play big teams, they're 1-0 up and then they kind of sit on that. They don't really go for it. For them to score three goals would kind of go against the trend, wouldn't it? I wouldn't say that's the case. They've done it in Europe against some of the big teams. They've done it against Aston Villa, as you've just said. There's been one or two games against Man City when they've been quite defensive.

27:43Against Liverpool on occasions they've been quite defensive. But I just think Arsenal have enough about them to break Manchester United down. And Steve is absolutely right. It all depends on the attitude of Manchester United. Manchester United on one-off games. They won the cup final against Man City with a performance that you hadn't seen from any stage. They won last year at the Emirates in the FA Cup when Amorim was the manager and they didn't look like winning any games. so they can put out a one a good performance every so often can they do it two weeks on the trot I'm not sure I can and I think Arsenal have just have too much for them they will play a two higher tempo they will win the ball back quickly and I'll and a man United won't be able to plan the counter-attack as they did so easily against Man City last week you know Jules as we know has got a big allegiance to Arsenal so this is just calling your bluff in it Jules one one no what worries me the most is that you and I have the same prediction which is It can't be good on my side, obviously.

28:35Hey, Jules, it's all right. We know better than these former players. What do they know? The Regions. I think the thing I think about, the quite fascinating thing about this game as well is what Arteta's approach. We know how much he loves the control. We know, and we saw that against Liverpool, for example, really recently, where I think at times he would prioritize making sure you don't lose the game instead of trying at all costs to win it and expose yourself defensively maybe and risking to losing it. And I wonder if in this game, for example, because he will fear the transitions of United as we've just explained, as we saw against City, but the boys are right.

29:15This is a much better Arsenal team than the City team, and especially in defense. But I think he might be a little bit risk-averse with the ball, which already, as we've also said, is not this season the biggest asset to go for it and put a lot of body forward for example and I wonder if to make sure that Bruno can't find a pass that Ahmad or Mbomo or Dogu can't run in behind if he would be a little bit more cautious from the start maybe a bit differently in the second half but maybe from the start and that's why I think he might even be satisfied I know you play to win all the time obviously but let's see how the game goes and I think there could be a draw in here yeah Robbo that's what I said well you did say but then what do you know anyway Jules I trust but you know I'm not sure I asked them might not win the game in the first 20 minutes what I still do quite well is they grind teams down and eventually when they get that goal up they do against Aston Villa where it took them a time to get that first goal and then they play with confidence then they steam forward then the players sort of release themselves almost at times and they look at an excellent side they have they do have periods in the game where you think they run out of steam they run out of ideas but when they get their confidence and they have a good moment in the game they then start to really put pressure on the opposition and I think they're going to do that against Manchester United.

30:33Elsewhere, a game that we shouldn't really be talking about but we are because of the form of the host. Is Manchester City against Wolves? Surely, surely not. Considering what's happened to City of late though, it does have us asking the questions. Here's Pep Guardiola. Absolutely, the best team right now in the world. So look in Champions League, look in the Premier League, look in the FA Cup, in Carabao This is the best team right now. Hopefully we can be close and get better and get better. Give us one chance to catch them. You mentioned recently the spirit is there in the team. Is that still the case?

31:13Is that still what you're seeing in the squad? Are they all upbeat and happy? I have an extraordinary team and an extraordinary group of players. and we are all together, we are a fantastic, fantastic football team. I don't have any doubt about that.

31:34Which pit doesn't suit him? Sarcasm. Don't shoot him. You think that's it? He was talking about Arsenal being the best team in the world at the moment. That may be a discussion for another show. But I want to talk about this spirit, Robbo, and it's something that City fans have questions, given their lack of oomph, if you like, in the derby. obviously the way they lost in Norway as well yes is there a lack of team spirit is a lack of determination they were very poor against the boat over they I'm in glint they just didn't perform and it's again the same back for almost that played against Manchester United and if if you have struggles defensively and Manchester City had in both those games where they just didn't look athletic enough they were run past too many times there was too many spaces in between their defenders there was too many spaces between each block of defenders.

32:24It gives the opposition loads of encouragement. And then you start to wonder, you know, do I close down? Do I drop off? We talked about structure earlier on in the show. There was no structure about Manchester City in the last two games. And when that's the case, you're easy to play against. And they've been easy to play against in the last two games. So it looks as though you're not trying. I don't think any players are not trying. There's a lack of spirit. They just haven't played very well. And there's not been enough structure when they haven't had the ball. Yeah, I can't argue with that. Yeah, holes in the middle of the park and holes at the back.

32:54I mean, you ain't going to win games, regardless of the opposition. If you're consistently leaving holes in the middle and the back, and all you're doing is encouraging the opposition to get at you. Because as soon as you've turned the ball over, they're all rubbing their hands. They can't wait to get at that perceived weakness, which is the back four. What are they saying about Pep, Jules, back in the UK? That sarcasm. It's funny that Stevie talked about the sarcasm because we could have showed more clips from his press conference today. He was full of it. He said at some point, oh yeah, Manchester City are not allowed to lose games.

33:29We can't lose, right? We can't lose. Nobody said you can't lose. We're just saying that you've been rubbish lately. That's all. You can only beat Exeter 10-1. But it's not about you're allowed or not allowed to lose. It's that right now, as the boys explained, there's problems everywhere. And the issue, a bit like last season, Remember when they had that really bad stint between October and December, really, it was, and again, they lost their football. It's the same here. He doesn't seem able to find the solution. So whether it's too many injuries at the back and they can't much he can do anyway, or he's just, again, he's struggling to find solutions and answers to the problem that are pretty obvious to see for all of us, really.

34:10And it's not just the midfield and the defense where there's holes everywhere. Some players are not good enough. It's also the lack of creativity up front. You can have Semenyo and Doku, as we saw against Bodo Glimp, and they don't do much. Foden has disappeared for the last five games. Shecky is maybe the only one trying. And then Haaland is one goal in eight games, and that was a penalty. So it's just everywhere on the page there's issues. And, I mean, he has to find answers to all those issues very quickly. Otherwise, this is going to unravel very quickly as well. A lot more questions about the Premier League over on Extra Time.

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38:59Welcome into the latest edition of Extra Time. Stevie with us. Jules and Robbo as well to answer some of your questions. It was interesting, ESPN FC showed a clip of Madweke being asked which of the players were most likely to sit next to their coach at lunch. And it was Saka and Odegaard. And I'm just wondering, of our lot, who would be that player? And Robbo's got to be close, hasn't it? Robbo's got to be close, so, you know, being nice to the coach, sucking up a vent. Depends who the manager was. Yes. Depends who the manager was. Well, you hit one of them, didn't you? So that's not bodes well.

39:32It wouldn't be bothered. Well, no, he was the coach at the time. It wouldn't be Bobby Gould, it wouldn't be Phil Neal, and it probably, no, it'd be about it. Terry Butcher I got on well with, Terry Neal I got on very well with, and Don Howe I got on very well with. Oh, there you go. George Graham, not quite so well, but that didn't last very long, so yes. Probably they'd come and sit next to me rather than the other way around. That's what I said anyway. That's interesting, because I was thinking, Stevie, did you notice it when you were a coach, players trying to be a bit teachers petty? Kind of coming to sit next to you, coming to chat to you more or anything like that?

40:01No. No? No, most people didn't want them sat next to them. Yeah. Because they would get that tag. Yes. Oh, yeah. So most people would stay at the road. Oh, that's fair enough. Yeah. Jules Gabb would be sat right there at the top when they're telling the coach what to do. He would actually take... You know when you put the chair up for the guy to sit? Like, to make sure he's right by him. He'd say, here you go. I even put the chair for you to be comfortable. Yeah, exactly. Who would survive the longest on a reality TV show? What reality TV show were going? Robbo would be terrible at all of these things I think because you don't really get on with people Robbo.

40:37Yeah I would. No I'd get on with the people and I'd be alright but I wouldn't get on with the snakes and spiders and I'm a celebrity or something like that. Okay if we put you in a jungle survivor. What other ones are you talking about? No I wouldn't like that either. I might do a cooking one I'd be alright on that. I'd do okay on that. Oh yeah a bit of master chef. If you remember I'd beat Frank LeBeouf didn't I in the last year's croissant. making competition. What about Dancing with the Stars Robbo? I can't remember if I've seen you dancing. You have seen me dance once and I saw you dance. You got told off for taking the mickey when we were in Ukraine and we had to do the national dance.

41:15Yeah that was good fun actually. That was very good. Dancing with the Stars. Yeah but you got told off for taking the mickey out of it. I get told off everywhere. At home, at work. It doesn't take much. Shaka. Shaka would be the one. what I am yeah that's true Chaka would just Chaka just has to be Shaka yeah but they would they wouldn't even notice Chaka he would just blend in and just be there and they would get to the end and it'd be like very likeable I want yeah no that's true oh you'll be alright dancing with the stars Stevie I've seen you I would have been oh yeah perhaps hips are good yes that's yeah Mars singer you'd be good at I never go at that yeah yeah yeah I'm we're all but with the jungle yeah I can't imagine yeah well there's no mints in the Charles name man Shepard's party I think that could be a big note Dan yeah I think we saw Stevie as a masked singer that time in Spain didn't we when he was beautiful that was in Liverpool that's when he was singing you'll never walk alone at six o 'clock in the morning karaoke he had a mascot at the time Jules would you ever be Ted Jules you're on enough TV shows you don't need any more do you know though as you know in England there's a very popular show now called the traitors I don't know if you have in them in the US or not but I wonder from the team who make the best traitor so the guy who lies in your face making you believe he's your friend he's a faithful and actually he's lying and stab you in the back I don't know barely probably would be a great traitor I don't know no I'm gonna be able to not tell everyone yeah no shaker again you would not you know i'd never retreat no exactly and then i wouldn't like it living in a house with other people yeah angry that would be good cleaned it properly yeah shak is cruising here you're painting a very bad picture of me dan very bad picture it's true if people hadn't cleaned up or done their washing up or left some food out that would get you going oh yeah i'd have a go at them for that yeah i'd tidy up after them you'd make sure they you know wash the taps and clean the bath and all that sort of stuff yeah get the hair out the plugs Well, it's not Robbo.

43:18Yeah. Right, there we go. Absolutely. Robbo. No, I wouldn't. No. Robbo, rank these following wing pairings on the basic of their current form. Martinelli Saka, Diaz Elise, Rafinha Yamal. Oof.

43:37Every time I'd have to go, because I see them a lot, Rafinha Yamal. When they're on form, and I think they have been on form in recent weeks, Rafinha wasn't very good in midweek in the Champions League but and obviously Jamal was suspended but those two players have turned Barcelona into such a an attacking force they can score at will almost at times that's not why they they don't win as many games they should every so often they can see bad goals but as a front pair in the wide areas they have been magnificent for a year and a half so I'd go with them and then second and third I like well I like them all but the Saka and Martinelli because I'm not a great fan of Martinelli I love Saka I thought he was again brilliant against Inter but they'd be at the bottom and the Diaz-Olise pairing because they're in the Bundesliga they scored so many goals and create so many goals against some weaker sides at times but I'd have to put them in second.

44:31Jules where would you go?

44:35I think right now in the current form and the form this season I think Luis Diaz and Michael Olise have been have been the best, really. And it should be Trossard and Saka, not really Martinelli and Saka either from the Arsenal point of view. So I will go first with Diaz and Olysee, then Rafinha and Lamine are second, and then I'll have Martinelli and Saka third. And with Robo. Yep. Yep, Rafinha, Jamal, now Diaz and Olysee. Now, we discussed this a bit, it turned into a bit of an argument between you and Craig regarding the strength of the Premier League. Right. And whether or not Arsenal, Liverpool, Spurs, Newcastle and Chelsea are all in the top eight of the Champions League so does this reflect the relative strength of Premier League sides in Europe the kind of edge to this question Jules was the discussion as to whether or not the Premier League has got stronger and therefore that is evidence in the Champions League but obviously the flip side of that isn't that it hasn't been as entertaining as late yeah I think it's a great debate and we've said it many times on the show and I really believe it this is not a very good Premier League season.

45:38Last season was not a very good Premier League season either outside of Liverpool. This season probably outside of Arsenal and I know City and Villa are not far but I don't think it's a vintage season at all. I don't think the quality is there and yeah maybe teams are trying to control things more but the stats are really strange. For example we've never had in the history of the Premier League so few goals from number nine from strikers. Goals don't come from number 9 nowhere not just Arsenal but any other team in the Premier League and yet the Premier League is still by far the best league in Europe that's why their teams are doing so well in in the Champions League because by the way the other leagues are not that great either if you take Bayern away from the Bundesliga it's not great in France if you take Launce out even PSG and Marseille it's not that great in Italy it's not that great and as we've seen in Spain Villarreal somehow second from bottom in the Champions League if they beat Real Madrid tomorrow they're four points behind and if they win the game in hand they're a point behind Real Madrid.

46:41So I think it shows that everywhere the level hasn't been that great this season. That doesn't mean that the leagues are not fun to watch, they're still good games but overall I think the quality is not very much there. Is there an argument to say Robbo that the lower teams have got better players now, a better coached, a better organised so therefore it's harder to break them down and maybe the games aren't as entertaining? Yeah, and there's also a theory that a lot of the teams down at the bottom don't really come out and play. They want to make it as difficult for the, as you understand, for the big teams as they possibly can.

47:15So you don't see a free-flowing game. I mean, I watched a game between Aston Villa and Nottingham Forest and I was, I'll use it, disgusted by the way Nottingham Forest played the game. I think they only had about 20 % possession. They hardly got out their half and the manager at half-time when it was noon and was really happy with it eventually lost the game but that that can't but the fans that go to those games cannot be pleased with what they're seeing from their team they need to see their team being more adventurous they need to think that their team have got a chance of somehow winning the game it's all about survival though isn't it robo it's all about keeping that premier league money of course yeah but i think you've also got to you can you can do that by attacking teams as well as long as you keep your structure at the back you've got to give you've got to cause other teams problems you've got to cause the big teams problems you've got to have some sort of fluidity going forward otherwise you can't just rely on defensive quality and keep getting point here and there because that'll get you down anyway Stevie do you believe that the next season we might see the best versions of the Eketiki and Kirk as they're already looking much better than when they arrived at Liverpool I think much I hope she'll stretch the hope so goes well I mean I think you can take a critique But yeah, I mean you'd have to think that between now and next season and the slot in particular figures out the best place for people like Vels.

48:35And obviously Isaac when he comes back. So yeah, I mean there's not been an awful lot to talk about so far with all of them. So yeah, it has to be better next year. Final question. Jules Casemiro is now officially leaving Manchester United this summer. which realistic and budget-friendly non-premier league top midfielder would you recommend to replace him wow i mean i'm not really sure what budget friendly means there's no if you want a world-class midfielder there's that doesn't exist you're not going to get a world-class midfielder for 20 or 30 million pounds it's impossible if you want to go and get elliot anderson for example who is the one outstanding really that I think would improve this United team straight away, for example, that could play well with Mainu or somebody else next to him, that would cost you at least 80 million.

49:26But that's the value. You would not overpay. I think this is the value for a player like him. If you prefer Carlos Baleba, although he's not having a season as good as the one he had last year or the one that Anderson has, for example, again, it would still cost you a lot of money. Same with Adam Warton. If you want that quality, you have to pay for it. So I think all three are realistic for United. I think they should be the targets, and I believe they are the targets. It's just down to if they have the money, and if they want to spend that money on one player, that will cost you a lot, but can make a difference, as we saw with Rice and Arsenal, for example.

50:02That's it. Robbo, what are you doing this weekend? What games have you got for us? I'm doing Villarreal versus Real Madrid tomorrow night. It should be a good one, of course. Top of the table clash as Joel mentioned before. Joel, which games are you going to? Arsenal United on Sunday. And we know what you'll be doing, Stevie. Continuing your auditions for Dancing with the Stars. Correct. Of course, you were trying out earlier today. Just, there he is. There he goes. Just... Amazing.

50:33I don't know why you're talking about that. There he goes. Ah, yes. Beautiful. It's got win all over it. I think so. It's got win all over it. You would certainly go on though. You do bet them a franc. Well let's face it, they do bring in one old geezer every year, don't they? Yes, they do. So I could be that old geezer. I think so. Let's get that campaign going now, Stevie. Yeah, get that statue in. That is it then. We will return tomorrow to reflect on Villarreal against Real Madrid and everything else that's going on across Europe.

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