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23:14But off the pitch, I'm not sure that he's that guy. So I don't understand at this point, given how close we are to the workup, Given how close we are to you naming a final squad, why you have 55 players in there. And again, for me, well, okay, Neymar gets in 55. What's the fullest value to that?

23:41Herc Gomez:I just don't get it. That's the question, right? Back in our time, Shaq, 23 players would go. And player 20, 21, 22, 23 probably wouldn't see the field. So now you're adding 24, 25, 26. what value do you bring? If indeed he can bring that leadership value and Carlo Ancelotti thinks in Neymar he has somebody that players can lean on, I think it's a no-brainer. We see teams do this all the time. Now, Memo Ochoa is going to play in his sixth World Cup. He'll be in his sixth World Cup. Luka Modric, granted, these are players in the name with still very much a lot in the tank, but Luka Modric, four World Cups, I believe.

24:19Herc Gomez:Lionel Messi, six. Cristiano Ronaldo, six. There are players playing in World Cups. We've seen the Rafa Marquez of the world be involved in World Cups when they can add something else besides just the few minutes that they could play if they are thrown onto the field. It's what can Neymar bring that is of value for Carlo Ancelotti. And if he's not of value, if he thinks he will be a distraction, there's no way Neymar is going to be anywhere close to a 26. But if there is something there, 34 years of age, set piece specialist, all time leading goal scorer in Brazilian national team history, a player that this very young team looks up to.

25:00Herc Gomez:And we were all in Boston, Brazil versus France. France may have the best pool of players on this earth. But when I looked up into that stadium, I was reminded of how much of a juggernaut the Brazilian national team is. This national team in the United States following around this team with the Neymar there, playing or not, that's something that people can get behind. So much so that we've seen politicians sending letters to Carlo Ancelotti and the Brazilian FA of they need Neymar on the team because of the hope that he inspires. If he can't be on the field, I say it's a no. But if you know he's not going to be on the field, if he can add anything of value, and this isn't a he takes someone else's spot, this is what can he bring, as Shaka said, I don't see the harm.

25:50So here's the things for me, and with Neymar. And again, whether he is that leader off the field, I don't know. Neymar and Carlo Ansharotidi wants to answer that question. But whether he plays or not, he will almost become synonymous with this result team, whatever comes of it in this tournament. Now, if things don't go well, somehow, whether he plays or not, again, Neymar will be to blame. We are just a few weeks removed from Neymar going to the stands at the sides of Santos' game and having a shouting match with fans. If this Brazil team cannot afford that version of Neymar, and until he proves me otherwise, I will continue to be skeptical.

26:35All right. Well, let's switch focus now to the U.S. men's national team because it's an exciting time for Sebastian Berhalter as he's expected to be a part of the final U.S. roster. And this is what he had to say a year ago. I didn't even make my national team debut. And now to be in this position is awesome. So for me, it doesn't feel like pressure. I think they know what they can expect. They know what they're going to get out of me. All right. So this is now before a couple of weeks before we're expecting the U.S. Men's National Team final roster to be revealed on the 26th of Maine, a glitzy ceremony over in New York.

27:12But guys, as we say, as we heard from Sebastian Berhalter there, this is an exciting time. You know, of course, it's a high pressure time as well. I say he's expected to be a part of that final roster. It's still not a guarantee, but you two know exactly what this feels like. Herc, take me back to when you were waiting to be called up for your first World Cup roster. Or was it just the emotions? What was it like going through your head? Did you expect it as well?

27:37Herc Gomez:Yeah, this is probably a great contrast here because Shaka was team leader, captain, and, you know, probably the biggest, well, one of the highest profile players of that team. Was he? An oldest. For goalkeepers, you guys age differently. Who was expected to be there. I felt like I was gambling with house money, you know, and whatever would happen would happen, and I was just happy to kind of be along for the ride. Very much maybe in a worse off situation than Sebastian Berhalter, where he's already had time and equity put in with this current coaching staff. I was very much on the outside looking in.

28:15Herc Gomez:I paid, I was in zero camps leading up to the World Cup, made zero appearances in that World Cup cycle, zero minutes. And I was one of 30 players that came into the last camp and had to, you know, eliminate seven. And I made the team. So I felt like I was riding house money. As much as Sebastian Berhalter may want to brush this off as there is no pressure, he doesn't have that luxury. He's the ex-U.S. Men's Now team coach's son. He's been part of this build, this roster build with Mariso Pochettino, and he is one of the players that has played or been invited to the most camps under Mariso Pochettino.

28:53Herc Gomez:He may not be in Europe. He may play in Major League Soccer, And he may play in a franchise right now that is not as sexy as an LAFC or an Inter-Miami, but he is very much under pressure. And he's a player that's very much in the mix. So for me, for Sebastian, two different worlds. I felt like I had nothing to lose. I think Sebastian Berhalter has a lot to lose. Sebastian Berhalter has a career-defining moment at his hands. And one in a contract year that if it goes his way, everything opens for him. So it's not a reality or not the similar reality and very much so a lot to lose and a lot of pressure for him.

29:31I'm not so sure I agree. I love the statement from Bill for a number of reasons. To Herc's point, OK, ex-national team head coach's son, but you're fighting against accusations of nepotism all throughout your playing career to rising to where you are now. You finally get into a squad in, you know, last year. And in 12 months' time, you've performed well enough, despite those currents that come with being a bear halter in 2025 and 2026, to establish yourself as the player that you are. And now it looks more than likely you're going to be in a workup roster. I think that's a great position to be in, in that you have earned your spot.

30:23You have fought against some incredible currents in getting to where you are. And now whatever comes of it, I'm all right because I have charted my own path in this game despite who my dad is. And I think that's a great position to be in. I loved everything about that statement. Chaka, what was it like, though, before we move on, for you getting called up? Was it obviously expected as you were captain? It was. I mean, I had been playing with the national team for when we qualified in 2006. I made my debut back in 1999. I was one of a few players who were playing in the Premier League at the time.

31:02So I kind of expected to be a part of the squad. But you didn't feel 100 % because you weren't a spring chicken anymore. No, I definitely wasn't. I mean, going into the World Cup, Kelvin Jack was Leo Bernacca's number one. And rightly so. So I was, after our previous discussion around Neymar, I was one of the senior players who was there to kind of lend experience to the rest of the rest room. And if I'm called on. You were just there to have a good time. I was there to see Toronto Bigelow's first ever World Cup with a really good seat.

31:33Herc Gomez:Do you remember the day you guys clinched World Cup qualification? Yeah. Yeah. What did you think? I was crying like a baby. I'm not going to lie. So actually I was telling somebody a story the other day. I run on to the when we beat Bahrain in Bahrain 1-0 to qualify I run on to the pitch and the first two players are running to our Dwight York and Russell Latipi Who I played as a 10 year old with an under 12 national team I know here we are kind of given the careers that we had everybody knows what Dwight did Russell went to Portugal and then on to Scotland I know we're here as the first trying to be a national team to qualify for workup It just felt surreal in so many ways See, and that's, I remember the U.S.

32:17Herc Gomez:Men's National Team wrapping up qualification against Honduras, in Honduras, and there's a Connor Casey goal. And I remember thinking to myself, I still got a shot. Going to the World Cup, you know, like. Yeah. I'm in it with a show. They're in it, so I can be in it. And I was nowhere near the picture. So it's, Sebastian should feel the pressure of you're that close. All right. Well, continuing with the U.S. Men's National Team right now, But this is some not so good news. Last week, we read the headline of Johnny Cardoso, who had picked up an ankle injury whilst in training for Atletico de Madrid.

32:52Now, Atleti then did not give a timeline. But now we understand that he is going to undergo ankle surgery, which has put his World Cup in doubt. So much so that, Herc, a lot of the headlines are saying that he's expected to miss the World Cup. How big of a blow is this?

33:06Herc Gomez:For Johnny Cardoso, this is everything. This is a player that has had an upward trajectory at the club situation, whether it's Internacional or whether it was Real Betis, and now for Atlético Madrid, where he was just starting to play some obsessed football. And he was doing it at the Champions League. It was starting to come together. So it's everything for a player like Johnny Cardoso that at his 22, 23 years of age, he will miss out on what is the pinnacle for every footballer. That is every footballer's dream. How big of a loss is it for the U.S. men's national team? Well, if we go by his previous performances, as a whole, his body of work, it's not that much of a loss.

33:47Herc Gomez:We still haven't had a vintage Johnny Cardoso performance that leaves you saying this man is going to have a lockdown spot, position, or even a guarantee within this roster. But given how he was playing at the club level, given how he played the first half against Belgium and how that team just immediately crumbled once he left the field, and given Tanner Tessman, who is injured right now, season ending injury and given the health history of a Tyler Adams who U.S. Men's National Team fans should be praying is wrapped in bubble wrap it is a massive loss because you're one injury away of not knowing what your center midfield is going to look like not knowing what the structure will be like and not knowing who the leaders in this locker room would be so Johnny Cardoso not only on the personal but for the U.S.

34:35Herc Gomez:Men's National Team as a whole it's a loss yeah big loss indeed Well, someone who's still expected to be a part of that final roster and going to the World Cup is Gio Reyna. And things seem to be looking up Shaq for him at Borussia Mönchengladbach because here he is getting a much needed goal. And since you are a Bundesliga, Shaq, this is big. It is big. Coming at the right time. It's really big for Gio Reyna. Listen, the goal in effect was meaningless, a little more than a consolation. But given the year that Gio Reyna has had, given the role that many are asking of him in this workup, it's good to get this golden deer belt.

35:11It's a little reminder. Exactly. It's good for your confidence. And again, not only Gio Reyna's form, but given the form of others around him, the expectation or the hope for Gio Reyna and his contributions, because we know how talented a player he can be. He's had injuries. He's had loss of form. To find this goal, hopefully give some momentum that he can take into December months. This is great for Gio Reyna. Herc, a nice little reminder that he can still be that guy, that X factor we keep talking about.

35:45Herc Gomez:You know, I like the word you just said, reminder, because we were just talking about Sebastian Berhalter. And Sebastian Berhalter, one of his comments were, they know who I am. Yeah. I don't think Gio Reyna can say the same thing about the U.S. Men's National Team. He's been involved very little. and why his last few appearances have been positive. This national team, these coaches, haven't seen enough of Gio Reyna. So it's a good reminder that, hey, I'm still here. And confidence-wise, Gio Reyna, in the last couple years, it's either been his body betraying him or it's been him for whatever reason, and he's had to do some internal focus here, not being able to see the field.

36:18Herc Gomez:And if you can't be on the field, you can't prove how good you are. I don't think anybody here is going to argue his ceiling or going to argue his talent. It's everything else. It's how can you stay healthy, stay consistent on the field and be of use to your team even when you're not producing the goals or the assists. So it's a good reminder to Pochettino and the crew that, hey, I'm still here. Someone who has definitely been there in this year and has been producing goals is this man, Ricardo Pepe. Best believe he is amongst the goal scorers yet again for PSV. We kept talking about do they put him on ice and hang on to him for the World Cup?

36:53Well, he's out there still with his mangled arm, as Ale Moreno likes to say. but he's netting them in.

36:57Herc Gomez:That's a good ball by Serginio Dest with the left foot. I don't know, Shaq, it's giving me ideas if Anthony Robinson isn't ready. This is a more impressive header. It's a very impressive header. It's an outstanding guy by Ricardo Pepe. Yes. All right, well, just a reminder that ESPN FC is on seven days a week. A fresh episode dropped today. If you've shopped online, chances are you've bought from a business powered by Shopify. You know that purple ShopPay button you see at checkout? The one that makes buying so incredibly easy? That's Shopify. And there's a reason so many businesses sell with it.

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39:31Herc Gomez:Yeah, Alberto Duarte, asumacarasquia with the header of the post. Duarte in. And then this one right here is going to be Nathan Silva who heads it in 2-0. 2-0 indeed. And then in the 23rd minute, Carrillo beats a couple of defenders, slots it away, and it's 3-0 Pumas. This is outstanding from Carillo. Nice little drop of the shoulder between two, finding the bottom corner. Now, surely it would only be all Pumas after this, right? But, hey, Club America managed to get one back. Yeah. Got one back. It's Zendejas off the corner, and it was Pato Salas with the header. And then Zendejas, another set piece, and there's going to be a shout for a handball here.

40:06Herc Gomez:I think it's definitely a handball. We're going to the spot. Keylor Navas versus the U.S. men's national team, Alejandro Zendejas. Will he make you proud, Shaka? Oh, I'm lucky killer. You know I love me some killer. Oh, I love me some killer nervous as well. Come on. I'm not sure where the market is for this one, Juarez. Yeah, you tell me, Shaka. Is this offsides? No. Nope, it's not. It's called offsides. Oh, my. You got a toe. It's a fingernail or toenail. Ridiculous. You can't. This is pure technology. All right, 61st minute now. America would equalize. 3-3 on the night. This is a ridiculous ball by Ryan Rodriguez.

40:54Herc Gomez:A better finish by Alejandro Sendejas. And guess what? With six minutes left, there will be shouts of a handball. And here we go to the spot. Oh, no, a handball, sorry. High foot. High foot, thank you, sir. And we're going to the spot. Another penalty. Henry Martin steps up. And he is.

41:18Herc Gomez:Yeah, everybody's asking. Yeah, yeah, yep. Yep. Thank him. Thank him. Thank him. Everybody's asking, why didn't Sendekas take it? Because the match would end 3-3, 6-6 on aggregate. But Pumas would advance because they finished higher than America in the regular season. All right. Well, we got to see a nice little feature there from Alejandro Sendekas. This is someone who we always speak so well about. Should he be featuring more for the U.S. men's national team? I don't know if we should be featuring more for the U.S. Men's National League. What I do know is 159 minutes under Mauricio Pochettino's tenure is not enough to evaluate Alejandro Sendejas.

41:56Herc Gomez:And the lasting impression we have of Alejandro Sendejas is a ridiculous mid-air volley against Japan, a goal that he scores. And that was it. Radio silence. I keep hearing and reading about the coaching crew going out to LAFC in Houston to see Jack McLean, going out to other MLS venues to see said player. If you have any doubts about Alejandro Sendejas, why not go and watch him in a rivalry match, in a series? One of the most highly contested games you can ever find. a true pressure-filled atmosphere and see a player that has been performing and at a high level for not one of the best teams in Mexico, one of the most storied clubs in the Americas, and see what Alejandro Sendejas is about in person.

42:47Herc Gomez:Because if you send somebody to this game, the best player on the field is Alejandro Sendejas. An assist, two goals, one of the penalty kicks caused. He provoked. It's his ball in. The second penalty kick he had caused, he also provoked. He could have taken it. He gave the penalty kick to his friend, team captain, Henry Martin, who's coming off an injury. Henry misses. But it was the Alejandro Sendejas show. And I ask myself, what more does this kid need to do? Forget to play with the U.S. Men's National Team. For them to just have a look, 159 minutes under Mauricio Pochettino. That's what we've seen.

43:23Sometimes we just want to look in, you know. Just want to look in. Hey, listen, Herc says back in the days he loved being used by models. So let's move on now because there was another big game on that. Go ahead and use me. I didn't say I loved being.

43:36Herc Gomez:I said go ahead and use you. Go ahead and use you. Oh, boy. Pachuca hosting Toluca in this second leg of their quarterfinal. Pachuca entered 1-0 ahead on aggregate. Eight minutes in, though, and the ref gives a penalty. This is such a BS. I have no idea what he called here. Yeah. I've got zero idea what he called a Marcel Ruiz, but called it. Well, Ener Valencia steps up and he scores 1-0 Pachuca. 34th minute now. There'll be a chance here by Perez, but it hits the post. Tell you what, awful clear, attempted clearance, I guess you have to call it. But that's an incredible first touch and even better second.

44:17My word, how close can you come? Just before the halftime, whistle Perez involved yet again, but he hits the post again.

44:25Herc Gomez:In post too. Again, it's a good... Well, I don't even know if it was Perez, to be honest. There was like two players hit the ball at the same time. Into the second half we go. Kennedy in on goal. And he would score. And that would seal it for Pachuca. They win 2-0 on the night. And 3-0 on aggregate to advance. All right, let's have a look at the bracket now. Semifinals, Cruz Azul up against Chivas de Guadalajara. and then in the other semifinal, Pachuca, up against Pumas. Herc, what do you expect? I expected a lot more, to be honest, from Toluca and from Tigres. But as you can clearly see, both those teams are in the CONCACAF Champions Cup final.

45:09Herc Gomez:And playing a double tournament, playing three days, does a number on these teams, and it wasn't enough. But Cruz Azul, Chivas, Pachuca, Pumas. Pumas may be the best team in the regular season, but they showed some real deficiencies against Club America. And I think if you're Pachuca, you're chomping at the bit. And Chivas performed a miracle, but I just think five starters out versus Cruz Azul is maybe still a lot to ask. That said, these matchups are enticing because of the style fights, transition teams in Pachuca Pumas, and a heavy possession-based team in Cruz Azul versus a very dynamic team like Chivas.

45:42Herc Gomez:We're in for a good show. In for a good show, indeed. Shaka really wanted to weigh in, but we just don't have any time to hear you, Shaka, because I have to remind you... You're removing from the graphics so quick. We will be back for more Football Americas on Thursday, 8.30 p.m. Eastern Time. Shaka's abandoning us as per usual. I'm being forgotten. Harry Douglas here. Let me ask you something. What if you can enjoy the taste of a cocktail, the warmth of a spirit, and still stay fully in control? That's RK Zero Proof, a pioneer in the alcohol-free spirits category. RK delivers bold flavor and a real warm and sensation with zero alcohol, zero sugar, zero carbs, and zero calories.

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46:59Herc Gomez:Now you can wake up and do some weightlifting to prepare you to carry your team on your back all day. Tonight, La Quinta. Tomorrow you shine. Book your next work trip at LaQuinta.com. All right, guys. Well, I promised you some messy magic, and here it is. It came from Toronto FC going up against Inter-Miami. 44th minute Inter-Miami free kick. Rodrigo De Paul, his first shot would hit the wall, but he scores a nice little volley for the rebound, and Inter-Miami take the lead. Oh, keeper. Why are you going to pop? Listen, I'm going over. No, not yet. 56 minutes. Wait for the messy magic, Shaka. The ball played into Messi.

47:39He finds Luis Suarez and Suarez puts it in the back of the net. Suarez is still such a good finisher. We just seem to say the same thing over and over. Kept on side by the player who's injured on the far side. Suarez is like, look at me. I'm out running everybody. Oh, my gosh. Sergio Reguillon, remember him? Oh, my days. Yes. Well, he gets his first MLS goal and Inter-Miami are up 3-0.

48:02Herc Gomez:It's a good finish with the opposite foot right there. And they are flying Inter-Miami. Absolutely flying indeed. Well, this is the moment we waited for. 75th minute. Messi had some space. He gives it to De Paul, who gives it back to his bestie. And of course, Messi was scoring from there. Yeah. Don't worry, he's a track out in number 10's run. He'll be all right. Yeah, he'll be. I think he'll be all right. Ah, boy. Oh. Oh. Oh, that's David Ayala, who definitely probably wants to have a cold one after. Yeah. Let me tell you something. They'll be replaying that and laughing for eternity. Oh, no.

48:39He knows it. It's all right. The damage was already done indeed there. All right. So here's yet another record for Lionel Messi. He set the MLS record for most goal contributions. He has 100 goal contributions with 59 goals and 41 assists in 64 regular season games. that shattered the previous record that was held by Sebastian Jovinko. He had 95 when he was playing for Toronto. Herc, I mean, we expect this, but this is just silly at this point.

49:18Herc Gomez:Jovinko was very much in his prime coming off of playing with Juventus, and I played with him in Toronto, and he was a cheat code. He was a machine. It was like PlayStation watching it live, watching it unfold. Here comes Lionel Messi, who's almost 40 years of age, a bigger cheat code, more known to the rest of the world. And you would think if there was one thing that would really cost him, where he would really find it difficult in this league, would not be the technical or the tactical. It would be the physical. And he's not slowing down. I ask myself, how good does this make Major League Soccer look when Messi is constantly making players look ridiculous, making them look foolish.

49:59Herc Gomez:But this is what Messi's been doing his whole life. whether it's La Liga, whether it's Champions League, whatever case international football you may want to see, he's been doing this to defenders for as long as I can remember. So it's pretty much right now, enjoy Messi while you can. There is no part of me that thinks that Messi is going to continue playing football post-World Cup, continue playing football for us to enjoy when this summer tournament is over. There's a part of me that thinks he's got zero reason, and he'll probably finish out the season with Inter Miami, and that'll be it. So enjoy him while you can because you are watching the greatest to ever play the game in real time.

50:37Herc Gomez:And he's here in your league. So just enjoy him. I hope he continues. Because to Higgs' point, Neil Messi really has zero reason to continue. But he's never really needed a reason. No. And that's one of the things I think we've enjoyed most about Neil Messi over the years is he just plays this game with a sense of fun like he's still a kid. He's not a kid anymore. doesn't need to play anymore but it just seems as part of his nature that as long as he can keep going he'll keep doing that and as long as you're able to build a team around Lionel Messi as he ages as he isn't able to cover the ground that he once did, you know that once you get the ball to his feet, he is still able to perform an incredible amount of magic but for those years in PSG, a very dysfunctional PSG Lionel Messi just continues to amaze in ways that nobody has done before.

51:35Absolutely enjoy him while we can indeed. All right, let's move on now to some NWSL action. Seattle Reign hosting Washington Spirit. Four minutes in, Mario Mercado has a shot. It takes a deflection and hits the crossbar. Seattle's so close to an opener there. Then we go all the way to the second half, the 83rd minute. and Claudio Martinez would score and Washington would get the much-needed win.

52:01Herc Gomez:Yeah, it's a very good finish. Off the bounce, one-timer, goalkeeper cannot even move. Good goal, Martinez. Good goal, Martinez, indeed. But what we didn't see in that highlight is that Trinity Rodman was actually substituted earlier on in the second half after she was receiving treatment on the field from the team's medical staff. We'll be talking about what this could mean for the Washington Spirit superstar on tomorrow's edition of Football W. I'll be back with Ali Krieger. and Jeff Kasuf, 1 p.m. Eastern Time on ESPN+. All right, let's talk about some Shaka-strophic goals, shall we? He's behind you.

52:38Shaka, explain this. I can't. Hold on.

52:41Herc Gomez:It gets worse. It gets worse. Don't bail him out. Don't bail him out. Oh, boy. This is the least of the issues. Wait. This is suspicious. Oh, boy. This is suspicious. Oh, boy. I love how the keeper's like yelling at his defenders too after he just made the worst error of them all. But still, I love how Shaq has said, they'll bail him out. You ever had one of those, Shaq? No. No. I look around. I check my rearview mirror. When I'm rolling, don't worry about that. You're playing out from the back a lot? What? You weren't good with your feet, Shaq? I was. Oh, no. I know. All right. Well, that's good for this edition of Football America.

53:24because make sure to catch us again on Thursday. I'll be back with her. Shaka's off on some holiday, I guess. Again.

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