Brazil Held to Draw by Morocco

23:53Prices, values and available markets may differ from those mentioned. For more information, see CallShe.com slash regulatory. This is the first time we've been together since the U.S. registered that impressive 4-1 victory over Paraguay in their World Cup opener. And what a reception it's received.

24:15I'm sorry, are we a soccer country now? I don't know about that. It's definitely called soccer this morning. I can say that. I cannot believe what my eyes have just seen. I actually had to check that this was a U.S. team I was watching. We said the dream big, and today was a dream start. It was a complete dominance. Take away the first two minutes, and it truly was all the United States. I do not think I had seen this good a performance from the U.S. men's national team at any level of the game. The first half could have been any better. I haven't seen a U.S. team play that well in a long time.

24:48I've watched the U.S. talk for 40 years. This was the best game they've ever played on an international stage. One of the top three performances of a US team in the last 20-25 years. The first half was as good as I've seen any national team play in any tournament, let alone the World Cup. One of the best US national team performances in a World Cup. I don't think I'm surprised. I've seen us play like this recently. Three goals in the first half of the opening game, I felt like it was a real statement and that's what we wanted to do. Impressive win for the US, put some top of the group. There's a lot of sort of...

25:28I mean, I haven't seen all those clips and I thought they were excellent. Watched the game, I thought they really were excellent. Two things can be true. They could be really good, the US, and they were, and Paraguay could have a bad night at the office, and they did. Now, I know they beat Brazil, was it an Argentina qualification, but that was quite some time ago. Certainly over a year ago. so they were not at their best I'm not taking anything away the US were excellent I've thoroughly enjoyed watching them the way they moved the ball the way they passed it the speed of their play the speed that they attacked how they're able to get in behind this Paraguay side at consummate ease however all this best, best, best, best is fine it was match day one you're going to have to play like that and when you do if you do play like that against an elite level team or a much better team, then I think I'll really stand up and take notice because that's when it's going to really matter.

26:23What this was, was an outstanding start to the tournament. But this is just the start. The gun has just gone off. You're not over the tape. You're not over the line. The gun has just gone off. And you couldn't wish for a better start. You couldn't wish for a better performance. However, at competitions like this, you need to be able to play like that when you get to a level of opponents that are much better than Paraguay. And that's the big question for this US team. They might be able to do it, but they've yet to prove that they can do it. Who caught your eye, Nathan?

27:02Obviously, you need to give credit to Balogun for the two goals that he scored, especially that left foot finish into the top corner. I thought that was excellent. But I really enjoyed the way that three midfielders worked. I thought Tillman, I thought Tyler Adams, and I thought Weston McKinney were great. Wesley McKenney being further up the field, the way he was linking the play, feeding certain people in good positions, getting himself into the box as well. I just felt Paraguay could never deal with the runners and stuff that they had. I think the sort of composure and the patience from Adams defensively and those guys in midfield as well.

27:29Their ability to win the ball back as soon as it was lost meant that Paraguay for the first 20, 30 minutes, they had nothing. They literally had nothing at all. So there were question marks being raised about, say, Tim Ream, Richards, Freeman at the back, playing with the back three, spacing behind. it never became an issue because every time they lost the ball at Pai, there was an immediate counter-press. So that midfield engine for them, I thought it looked incredible. And obviously, Pulisic looked good in the first half, but he played 45 minutes. So let's talk about some of the other people that played the full game.

27:57And I thought those three in that midfield area were excellent. But when you play against better sides, and I'm not taking it out of the way because, again, I thought it was a brilliant performance. But when you play against those better sides and you press and they play around you, and they will, you can't be perfect all the time. that's when you're going to look at that back line particularly with a 38 year old captain in there so there's going to be a lot of questions down the line and that's what World Cups are all about and that's where you find the answers to those questions but again

28:30there's two scenarios usually there's a nightmare start and there's a brilliant start and Pochettino got exactly what he wanted now you have to build into this competition and not get carried away The players can't be listening to all this and getting carried away. They've got to keep their feet on the ground, do the job in the group stage, which they will go through. And as I've always said, it's when they get to this next stage and this next stage, when the real questions are asked about doing the same things as they did against Paraguay, doing that against better opposition and having the confidence to do it against better opposition.

29:04That's when we're going to get the answers about just how far this relatively young side have come. you'll hear me say many many times and Craig and people that watch La Liga when we're looking at Real Madrid not playing particularly well they've got to pass the ball forward there's got to be more forward runs it's too and Premier League it's too slow it's too square the USA passed it forward at every opportunity there was forward runners the movement of Balogun was brilliant every time he thought there was space down the side he made the run Des down the right hand side played as well as I've ever seen him play, both on the ball and off the ball, making his runs.

29:39Pulisic played well when he was on for the first 45 minutes. The midfield players were dominant to win the ball back, but it was the intensity, the pace of the game and the forward thinking. It's easy to keep the ball when you're playing around the back or playing in the infield. They were getting balls forward and passing it really well. So many discussions on Football Americas over the last year has been about who is US's striker? Should it be Josh Sargent? Is it going to be Pepe? But Balogun's come in and taken that with both Reigns. Great performance from him. Of course, could have been a hat-trick, but for the offside goal.

30:11Yeah, I'm going to be completely transparent. I've not seen all the games, all the different strikers, but I thought he was excellent yesterday. I think the fact that he was leading the line in that manner against a very physical Paraguay defence. I think the way he was trying to handle Alderete was excellent. That's an Alderete who's been excellent for Sunderland this whole season. And he looked great. The finishing, there's the right foot, there's the left foot, but he was a constant threat. And I think the fact that they can pitch the ball up to him and he can battle, he can hustle, but then he can also stretch the game in behind.

30:36That's what they need. I think as Rob was just saying, any team whereby it's one dimensional, everyone's coming short, it's very easy to defend against, but they have a striker in Balogun who can get him behind, he can get his head to the ball, he can link up the play, and people work really well around him. So for me, I'd like to see him continue in that position because he's been excellent. Playing the way they did, I could see them winning all three games in this group segment. Australia, Turkey will be more of a threat than Australia, I would imagine. But I still see the US is stronger than Turkey at the moment.

31:08And I could see them going into the knockout stages with nine points, full of confidence. And then you're just looking at your key players, making sure nobody's picking up a little calf strain or an injury. Sort of going in at full strength and seeing where that bracket will take you. But yeah, at this rate at the moment, I mean, it might not happen. but I can see them going in with three wins out of three and then really getting the boxing gloves on and the knockout. And that's where the pressure really comes, the knockout, because you make a mistake, there's not another game. So that pressure's on to do the things that you've done well in the group stage that's got you there, knowing that that pressure of a mistake or a bad decision could send your country out.

31:51That's where the pressure comes. Gio Reyna, a big talking point in the last World Cup, controversially brought into the squad for this one. Lovely finish. Yeah, good finish. I'm still not sure what he brings to the US team. A nice finish. A nice finish. Lovely goal. They were already winning. God! What more do you want him to do? But I would say for the manager, for Gio Reyna, is he a number 10? Is he a wide player? Is he a holding midfield player? What does he bring to the side that's different to the players they've got in there? At the moment, I don't think he gets in the team because he's not played well enough over the last two, three years.

32:25and he might be a good substitute, but at the moment, I don't see him in the first team. Did we get any news on, will I put you in this ball here? Go on then. Pulisic. He felt a little strain. Nothing serious? Nothing serious. He had a kick, thought it was best to come off. Had a kick. A little kick. Best to come off. Did his bit in the first half. A little bit of a rest. He did look sharp. He looked very sharp. Mind you, the defending, I mean, again, you can only do what you do. Some of the defending early on from Paraguay are thinking, my God, the US are going to take these to the cleaners here.

32:59They just look so... They didn't look like a side that had the defensive record that they had incomodable. They just didn't look like it. Now, maybe that was a little bit. I hear people shouting at the TV, probably go, that's because the US were brilliant. Maybe that was the case. But some of their defending, particularly in the first half, was so shoddy and so lacking basics. It was quite scary. And not learning their lesson. you said it earlier on, McKinney kept on making runs through that inside right position and he made, I don't know, 10 runs and he kept on getting in and they never did anything about it.

33:31It's almost, oh, well, he's made another forward run, they get the ball to him and we'll defend it from there. It was really poor for that. I said just before the tournament started, from a US perspective, it's all very well with the rah-rah-rah and talking about it, which the players haven't really been doing, but we're talking about how big is this World Cup going to be and is it really getting hold of the public and is it getting the grip? And I always said, the one thing that will get a grip of the public is not noise, it's performance. It's results and it's performance. And we got that. Now, if they take that forward, that baton and run with it, the public will get on board.

34:09Maybe not them all, but a lot of them will get on board because they'll see what this USA are doing. It will give them hope. They'll buy into the World Cup. And that's going to be good for the whole spectacle in general. You saw clips of it. So much a reaction from the likes of Jürgen Klinsmann, Casey Keller, Jermaine Jones over on our YouTube channel. That is, of course, available for you to check out now.

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35:23Everyone's got a point in Group B. Yesterday we saw Canada and Bosnia-Herzegovina play out that 1-1 draw. It looked like Switzerland were going to top the group. They were 1-0 up for the majority of their tie against Qatar. But a late goal from Kug in the 94th minute. We'd see Qatar take the unlikeliest of points, really, in a game that Switzerland will be kicking themselves, Robbo, that they didn't get over the line. Absolutely. Switzerland played some really good football. I thought the centre-forward, who I've never been that impressed with, the Mbolo, held the play up, he linked it up, he made runs in behind the two wide players, gave them good shape and went past people.

35:57Xhaka dominated the midfield, they had two midfield players, I think it was Ibisher and Freuler, kept on making those runs at the right time. One of the four backs, Rodrigo's got forward. It was a good performance. They got shots on target, they got crosses into the box, they dominated the play, but they didn't finish off Qatar and they, in the end, they paid the price. Yeah, that was it. Anything to add to Marlies? yeah we're not going to talk about it do you want to move on do you want to go somewhere else I don't want to go anywhere I was just asking if you'd like to add anything to this well I'm getting the feeling that it's past his bedtime well it is definitely past my bedtime wrap it up that's Qatar getting the first ever point at the World Cup that's something for them to celebrate and what a goal it was it was an incredible goal great header at the back post Natham that's lost on him oh sorry why am I getting the blame my bad I think to be fair as well to give credit to people that were actually talking about the game as it was happening.

36:50They were saying, while it's just one, while it's just one, while it's just one, something could happen. But for the way that Qatar were playing, I was like, no, this isn't going to happen. But there was a moment, firstly, early in the game, where Qatar had a really good chance. A kanji mistake. A kanji mistake. So you always reminded that fact. Like, these people that are playing, that Switzerland are the better side, but they're not perfect. And lo and behold, great ball comes into the box and a dominating header. And I'd say, they can celebrate as they've made history now. Is that right? Yeah, that's great.

37:18Now you've got to chip in because you can't have a go at me for moving things on, not saying anything about the game. What have I got to chip in for? Well, because you're suggesting that I want to move on. Just because there was a controversial penalty and somebody's kid from FIFA has now drawn a line on it. I know because the technology wasn't working for you. He was onside for Euler, but no. I think Switzerland generally qualify out of groups in major tournaments. They've done that recently. the furthest they've been I think three times is the quarter final I think that's the best they could achieve got some good players particularly Xhaka as Robbo mentioned he was brilliant for Sunderland absolutely brilliant this season and Doyle missed a couple of chances so they play some nice stuff but I think again a little bit at the back with Akanji who's a little error prone again these days I think they have a shelf life in terms of how far they can go but they should have had three points today that's what they'll be down about in the hotel tonight.

38:15Gab and Jules are here in the States and you can join them on Monday as they reflect on what they've seen in the World Cup. Join them, what do you mean? Where are they in the States? What is Gab wearing there? Dear, dear, dear. Wow. He lost his luggage. He's borrowed somebody else's shirt by the looks of it. He'll be talking all about it. He lost his luggage. Apparently so on Monday's show. And he's bought that. Away from the World Cup, there is still action going on is Spain, as both Malaga and Almeria are looking to book a place in La Liga next season. How is this possible? It always goes deep.

38:52It always does. It always goes deep into June. But you can follow the final, the second leg, live June the 20th, 1pm Eastern here on ESPN+. The action continues on Sunday. Germany kick things off against Curacao. Netherlands, Japan, Ivory Coast take on Ecuador and in the late game it is Sweden who take on Tunisia some of us will be in Robbo, you in? not tomorrow morning I'm in the afternoon and I'm in and neither am I you in? I'll have to check my diary yeah, I'm off well, I'm off tomorrow that's alright oh, sorry, no you mean like that oh, is he off? oh, I'm in tomorrow I need to recover after today's today's what?

39:31excursions that is it that brings us to the end of today's edition of ESPN FC be sure to stay tuned Robbo, Craig and Nadam to answer your questions on Extra Time.

39:47Welcome in to the next edition of Extra Time. Thank you very much for all your questions. What are you going to do tomorrow when you're not in? I've got the day off. You can't go for a beer. Well, I'll find something else to do. I'll tell you what, he took me to a very nice little diner the other day for lunch. Yeah, we had a nice little lunch. Life revolves around going out and have a beer, but... Well, I think I might do something with my family. I don't think they want that. They'd prefer to do it by themselves. When you go to New York. Is Ancelotti's decision to omit Jao Pedro instead of Igor Thiago going to come back to haunt Brazil this World Cup?

40:23It might well do because Thiago didn't play particularly well. Cunha came on for him later on in the game and did OK. And for a little while, Raphine, you played at centre-forward in the last 15, 20 minutes. But yeah, it was disappointing from Thiago because I thought he'd play well. I know he's got a lot of pace, he's got a lot of power. He was brilliant for Brentford this season. Didn't happen for him today. Do you agree? Well, that's... Yeah, you make these decisions. I mean, I'm a big fan of Joao Pedro, but he's a different player. And maybe Ancelotti thought he had some players that were versatile and could drop short and do these kind of things and link up the play.

41:03I'm not sure he has, to be honest with you, but he's obviously gone for a more physical, powerful, direct player who had a great season. There's no doubt about it. We watched João Pedro at Wembley in a game where... Was it Chelsea-Leeds? It was Leeds, yeah. Chelsea were throwing up some pretty... They were throwing up some rubbish to him. And some of his touches, just getting that ball in and holding it up, and I think that would have allowed Brazil to get up the field and and you know link up with him, but you know they've got he's gone for Thiago he just didn't have a very good game today it's not to suggest he won't have a good game and for any tournament going forward.

41:43What do you think? No I agree I really like João Pedro as well I think what he got Thiago's goal record and the style of play that he has I think actually you must think that maybe with the likes of Cunha you can have something similar to João Pedro but I think João Pedro is tough. Is the argument not Joe Pedro or Thiago is the argument not why is Neymar there? Well he was certainly featured a lot wasn't he on the cameras he was on the bench. Did Joe Pedro miss out because of him or he miss out because of Neymar? No I think I think he missed out because of Neymar. You know and yes that was you look at that you think is that a sentimental pick a guy who's at the end of his career who's done some brilliant things, but he's certainly on the wrong side of it.

42:32It'd be interesting to see how much he uses him during this competition. How much he can use him. Well, what's the point then? He's not fit for the first three games. It's like Jordan Henderson for England, isn't it? Oh, no. Jordan's fit. Yeah, yeah. What about his game vision? Jordan's fit. Jordan's available. Jordan will have an impact. That's the one I don't know. How much did the injuries to Rodrigo Militao affect Brazil's performance? Not that much defensively because Marquinhos did okay. Gabriel did okay. They had the one ball over the top, which they got beat for for the goal. In general, they did okay.

43:12I think Nedim was saying that Gabriel looked very tired because his socks were rolled down by the end of the game. They were getting lower and lower. Yeah, but I don't think that was their problem. It was their actual build-up play and losing the ball in midfield and getting outrun in midfield in the first 20 minutes. You're talking about Rodrigo Real Madrid? Yes. He hasn't played. No, because he's injured. That's the point of this question. So how much was he missed by them? Don't explain it. You said Militao. Sorry, I'm getting used to it. My bad. You did say Militao. He gets exactly what he said.

43:40Don't worry. Hold on. He hasn't played at Real Madrid. Well, yes, but if he was fit, how much of an impact would he make? Anyway, Robert, how's Craig handling no longer being the answer to a pub quiz question? That question, of course, who is the last Scotsman to score at a World Cup? Who's the last Scotland person not to score a deflected goal? How's he handling it? How he handles most things. Miserable. Well, I can't argue with that. You've still got the record of being the last Scottish player to be sent off. Well, that could go. I don't know. I hope it doesn't. I hope you're stuck with it.

44:14Actually, that's just one of those things. Well, disappointed. I'm not fussed about that. You still go down in history, won't you? It's what? The second last player to ever score a goal. That's what everyone remembers. Oh, they will. Craig keeps telling us about it. It's a bit like Frank in the World Cup final. Yes, it is. Don't you think Morocco could go a long way in the tournament, Nadem, and be a very tough opponent for several favourites? Favourites? I don't know. I'm not really buying into them as much anymore. I thought that first 20 minutes thought they did look great. You said they're going to drop points against Scotland, obviously, so really not impressed.

44:57Well, they're going to pick up a point against Scotland. Spin it. Think of it that way. I think Senegal will be the African team that goes the furthest. So, yeah, I don't think Morocco will go as far as some people think. Craig, what did you make of VAR stepping in to get a dive called in the US Paraguay match? Is that the slippery slope people worry about or exactly what VAR should be used for? Is that Tim Ream, Hammer on? Did you like it? Is that within the parameters now? Yes. Right.

45:31I don't know. I'm all for getting the decisions correct. but what we saw in the domestic league last year was over a vicious VR looking for everything, every needle in the haystack. What about in this particular instance? Do you like this? I'd rather it was an on-field call. The only thing I really want VAR to get involved with in that sense is like a missed penalty or an extremely dangerous challenge. In the end, it was a massive turnaround because Ream got a yellow card and Almiron got a free kick. And it was turned around the other way, so Almiron got the yellow card and USA got a free kick.

46:15So you like it? As long as it's done quickly. Does he need to go to the monitor? I'm not sure he needed to go to the monitor. I was thinking, like, Laura, you can see it. The VAR could have said... Well, that's the game been refereed from somebody. And it has to be obvious. You know, like, if there was no contact whatsoever and Almiron died, which he did, then the VAR can just say to him, you need to turn the decision around. Right. Put Elmer on and let Ream off. So you like it or don't like it? I do like it. It has to be done quickly. I don't have an issue with that. I don't have an issue with him telling him he's made a mistake and reversed it.

46:45I do have an issue if it's a big palaver. That's exactly what I'm saying. If he has to run across and have a look at it four or five times, that's no good. No, no, that's true. I like things not palavers, just succinct. They're sure. Yes. Yes, indeed. Nae-num. Yeah, I like it. You like it? I like it, yeah. Well, we don't have to stay till three in the mall, do we? No. Well, I'm looking forward to the Australian Turkey game. You weren't miserable at that, Tim de Mullen. Oh, look over your right shoulder. No! I tell you what, I tell you what, I'm looking forward to the game. I'm going to be doing the show with Kevin, who's the first show on.

47:17You mean you're working with a proper presenter? Yeah, he's not a horrible little man. He's a nice chap. He can have a beer. He's Irish, but he's a nice little chap. He can have a beer, Kevin, he can have a beer. That's the bar. That's how it goes. Yeah. I tell you what. He's got a nice suit on. He's got a better suit on than you. Right. You should see. He's making a good impression, isn't he? That's a million dollars. He hasn't got a suit. He's got a jacket. He doesn't own a suit. Right. Yeah. They don't have trousers. Is that a small... Tasteless.

47:47A scruffy, horrible little man, then. Wow, Robbo. I took you out for lunch and everything yesterday. Hang on. Did you take me out for lunch? Well, I invited you. You said you went to a diner. Yeah, we did. Why did you go to a diner? Because it's nice. I like it. There's a nice diner in town. You had a pizza with a pineapple on it, didn't you? No. No? We had Eggs Benedict. We had Quaffey as well. Yeah. That's right up Stevie Street. Eggs Benedict. Yeah, that's it. Eggs Benedict or cholesterol, fried eggs, sausages, bacon. Oh, I love that. Loves it. Arbeloa to Fulham. A good move. No. Experienced enough for the Premier League.

48:24Where did Fulham finish this season with him? What's Arbeloa? Look, I suppose you say what did Real Teta do to get the Arsenal job? but there was nothing we saw in a very difficult job to me at Real Madrid but there was nothing really we saw or he said or he did that would suggest he's going to be walking into a difficult is it because Fulham is a difficult job and I mean a difficult job in a sense it is arguably overachieved with Marco Silva you could argue but they've played some good football and they've been in Europe, I think they've been in Europe, and they've certainly not been in danger of relegation.

49:05An appointment like this, you're thinking, right, are we heading down the way? And you've got to remember how he got the job. He was the youth team coach, reserve team coach, and then manager gets the sack. They can't get another manager in, so he's given it on a temporary basis until the end of the season. So he didn't earn the position to be the Real Madrid manager, I don't think. He's not done brilliantly somewhere else to become that manager. He was given the job because they needed somebody to take that little bit of responsibility. Now when Bournemouth wanted to make the step from a side under Gary O 'Neill, who, you know, was a good manager, and they were where they were, but their ownership wanted to make a decision.

49:44They didn't want to be a club that was 15th and 16th in the Premier League and fighting, and they wanted to be a club that was a bit more progressive. And they made that decision for Andoni Arreola. But here, Proven track record. Spain, even though he was still somewhat a young manager, he had a track record of how these teams played and experience in management. Arbeloa does not. So I think this is a worrying decision for Fulham, but certainly a risky one. I think you're right, because essentially Fulham are that sort of mid-table team whereby, come the end of the season, most of the time they're disappointed if they've not made it into Europe.

50:21But if they have a bad season, it could be very much in a relegation dogfight. Like, it's not too long ago. I think probably four or five years ago, they were a yo-yo side. A team that wouldn't even have been established in the Premier League as such, which sort of highlights how good a job Marco Silva did. But if this Arbelo one goes wrong, then before you know it, you can get pulled down to a position which you probably don't want to be in. And this year, we've seen that the amount of points you might need to stay up is higher than it has been in times gone by. So I don't know if he's going to be the guy that's going to elevate them, but you've got to be careful.

50:48He might be the one that drags the floor down. West Ham would be a case in point, because I think they're run very shoddily at the moment. Fulham are a better run club. But they had pretty much what they needed, West Ham, which was mid-table to Europe, won the conference, solid outfit, and then they wanted change and they wanted a different style and they went down a different route and it just spiralled for them and then they find themselves in the Championship. Fulham have to guard against them. And they took on a coach in Lopetegui who had experience, has done it in other leagues, and he still couldn't do it at West Ham.

51:23Did it go Lopetegui, Graham Potter or was it Potter? Potter Lopetegui. Potter Lopetegui. Yeah. That was the first mistake. Yeah. Quite a few people associated with West Ham have said Graham Potter at West Ham did not work, got rid of the leaders and stuff like this. So the wrong person being a disruptor is an issue. But Graham Potter is at this World Cup, isn't he? He is. Sweden. They should never beat the World Cup. They're game tomorrow. They finish bottom in their group qualification. They're in the World Cup because of that poxy Nations League, which is another parachute. Who wins king of the pitch from all of the goals scored so far in the tournament?

51:56Which have been your favourite goals so far, Robbo? Or, off the top of my head, I'm going to go for Balogun's... Balogun? Because he made the run, he held off the challenge, and he bent it into the top corner. That's three things he did quite well. OK, vote for Balogun. Naden? I've lost track of the games a bit. I think Balogun is there. Reyna, you can put in. No, I tell you who he wants to put in, because he told me it was a magnificent header. Yeah. Qatar's header. Do you know what? I'm not picking that one. No, I'm going for the South Korean, the first goal, where they started to keep it down and chipped it over.

52:28Who scored it? Ah, yeah, he chipped it over. Yeah, that was his name. The Korean forward. The Moroccan goal today was a good one. It wasn't the best though with the tournament, was it? It is a fast it is. In my head. Some people think the Scotland goal was the best one because it takes you off the record. John McGinn is the king of the big ones. Yeah, McGinn. I don't know how difficult it is. What's that? It's going to the World Cup. For Scotland. For Scotland, yeah. That is it. That brings us to the end of today's show. Kevin will be in the hot seat tomorrow. Oh, and Monday, Tuesday. I'll be back at some stage.

53:05Be sure to join us.

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