Chelsea in Crisis?

24:56And yeah, they were a bit unlucky today not to win, maybe, but this is still the reality for them. And yes, for me, it's all down to two games for them, Wolves away and Leeds at home. And there will be a game in between, but those two games, there will be Villa in between, but those two games, this is it. This is where if they get those six points, they will stay up. If they don't get six, if they get four, if they get two, if they get zero, if they get one, it doesn't matter. I can see them going down. But I expect them to win those two games. And by the way, by the time they play Leeds, I think Leeds might be safe anyway.

25:28So yeah, I think they will stay up and it's a bit better today. But again, I know I've said it, they could be worse off than they were 24 hours ago, which is not the idea here. So he's got to use today's game surely to rally his players for what's ahead. Yeah, absolutely. Yeah, and I like what he said about I don't want him to be turning up on Monday with a head between the legs. I mean, it's the exact same attitude as an old manager of mine at Sheffield Wednesday had when we were in a relegation battle. He'd said exactly the same thing. Now, what for us? It's going to be a little harder for Spurs, but you never know.

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27:57Application times and rates may vary. Copa del Rey final was quite the ride between Atleti and Real Sociedad. And Baron Aceh scored within 14 seconds to put La Real ahead. Then Adamola Luckman would level things out in the 19th minute. In the late stages of the first half, Oyar Sabal would score a penalty to put Real Sociedad 2-1 up. But as we got to the later stages of the game, Julian Alvarez would score to send it to extra time. In extra time, nobody scored and so it went to penalties. And in that penalty shootout, Solot and Julian Alvarez both took first for Atleti. And both of their penalties were stopped by Unai Marrero, the MVP on the day for Real Sociedad, who went on to win this game 4-3 on penalties.

28:46Look at this. There's only Barcelona and Real Sociedad who've won it twice in the last eight seasons. Sid Lowe is talking a lot about this in our pre-game today. this cup we've seen a lot of different winners in that time and here are those fans who were denied the chance to celebrate back in 2021 and today they get to do so luis garcia was watching with us today emotional scenes for real sociedad yeah definitely emotional it's been a fantastic and exciting game they didn't have the chance and opportunity back in 2021 to celebrate it and today. They watched the team that struggled so much during the first start of the season.

29:26And since the moment that Rino Materazzo landed at San Sebastián, this team looks totally different. It's a joy to watch. Aggressive, dynamic, with a lot of intensity. We thought that they were going to run out of legs. And we've seen it in the second part of the game where Atletico Madrid dominated, created more chances. We saw the last 45 minutes. but they went to extra time and they reacted once again. They managed to keep Atletico Madrid away from their goal. Just a couple of chances for both teams. And in the day it was on penalties. There is a little bit of a lottery, but the keeper has done it before.

30:05And today kept the composure, saving the first two penalties and putting the pressure on Real Madrid fans. And really, really emotional this moment because, as he mentioned, this is a club that is really special for the supporters. Sometimes a lot of teams say, or the media, we say that the teams don't give much credit, but you can see how is the feeling of winning this trophy for the supporters, for the clubs, and, of course, for the players. So a really special day for this crowd, and hopefully we can see a lot more of these teams that don't have many chances of being on a final. having their option and of course like today sharing them with the supporters.

30:52Am I reading that right? They put a strip in front of the supporters there with 12 on it. 12th man. I'm kind of reading it. Maybe I'm wrong, I don't know. But, oh well, that's a bad, is it? I had Zabal Holden there with the name Zabaleta on it. But I want to talk about Rino Materazzo because we've sent Sid Lowe on a wild goose chase to find the Real Sociedad manager, we always knew that in the Bundesliga, his family back in New Jersey, they go into the garage to watch the games. I'm hoping that they're there in Seville tonight to experience this for him. Because when you talk about the job that he's done with this team, as we've mentioned, he took over in December.

31:34They were 15th. They were battling relegation at the time. He's taken them up to a battle for the European spots and to lift a trophy today. That's incredible, Craig. He's done a great job. and it's always good to see that. It's always better to sit here in this job and see people doing well rather than having to do the negative side of it. But that's part of the job. And also, and the boys mentioned it in commentary, like a lot of clubs, you think about all the good players that go. Zubi Mendy was the one that went in the summer. Before that was Mikel Moreno. Before that was Alexander Izak. I think Alexander Sorloth was there as well at one point.

32:12David Silva was a Real Sociedad player who went on and then went back to the club at the end. So they've always just, like a lot of clubs, I'm not alone, they've always sold their top talent. And yet they've always been a very strong team in Spain, albeit they struggled certainly the first half of this season. That's why Matar actually got the job. But what a huge travelling support they've had there down in Seville. Amazing. What does that stadium hold by? I think it's like 70 ,000, 80 ,000 or 90 ,000. It looks as if it's huge. It's huge and we're going to hear from Sid. But just to mention the name on the shirt there, Aito Zabaleta, was a Real Sociedad supporter who was murdered back in 1998.

32:48And ever since then, the Real Sociedad fans and team have played tribute to that man as well. So that's always nice to see. But let's get word from Sid Lowe, who is there at the side of the pitch to witness all of this today. Sid, your reaction to what we've seen tonight? Well, I mean, in terms of the occasion, in terms of what Rauz of the Dad have just achieved, it's absolutely fantastic. We were talking when we pre-game about the fact that, excuse me, that Rauz of the Dad won the Copa del Rey five years ago. They won it in 2021. It was actually the 2020 final. But because of the coronavirus pandemic, they waited an entire year for one reason.

33:27Them and Athletic Club, their opponents, said we don't want to play because we want to play with our fans. We want to give them the longest possible chance we can to get them in this stadium. In the end, even waiting a year wasn't enough. So they won that final 1-0. Mikel Ojozhabar scored a penalty, as he did tonight during 90 minutes, but not in the shootout because he wasn't out there anymore. But they were desperate because they felt like something had been missing. Although that was supposedly the final to end all finals against their Basque rivals, it was not in front of their people. And tonight, I think, feels like it's extra special because they missed out on this.

33:58these fans haven't seen Real Sociedad lift a trophy since 1987. Almost 40 years they've been waiting for this. Most of those fans, well, I'd say maybe 50 % of those fans up there weren't even alive then. So this is absolutely enormous for them. And the atmosphere in Sevilla throughout the day has been wonderful and it's fantastic in the stadium now. Or at least it is in that end of the stadium, as you can imagine. The other end is now emptied out. Yeah, absolutely. Let's just stick with Real Sociedad for a minute if we can, Sid. Unai Marrero, the hero on the night, the second string keeper. who stopped those first two penalties.

34:30What an incredible story. Gets MVP as well. Yeah. Well, what a lot of Spanish teams do is what they also thought they'd have done in this Copa del Rey, which is to have their second-choice goalkeeper start for them throughout the Copa del Rey and to make the decision that this is our goalkeeper for the Cup. And even if we reach the final, we're not going to put the first-choice goalkeeper in. Now, in the case of UNA, it's even more key that you do that because he's already been a hero in a shootout. He's already been their superstar, bringing them to this final, and he's a youth teamer, he's a guy that was born in San Sebastian, the city where Real Sociedad is, a Real Sociedad supporter as a kid and so that moment was really, really special.

35:07So he made two penalties earlier on in the competition, two penalty saves rather, earlier on in the competition, two more penalty saves tonight and I like the moment as well when at the end there, he goes to Pablo Marin and has a word with him and says, go on, take us over the line. Pablo Marin, another youth team player, scores the penalty and everyone goes wild. Now, I think it's worth just pausing momentarily on this. I must confess, I lost count in the end of the substitutes coming on and off. So I'm going to give you the figures from the starting 11. The starting 11. And as I say, a whole load of youth team has came on the pitch as well for Real Sociedad.

35:39But the starting 11, of those 11 players, seven of them were Real Madrid, sorry, Real Madrid, Real Sociedad Academy players. Six of them are from Guipuzcoa, the province that San Sebastián is in, and the smallest province in the whole of Spain. This is an extraordinary achievement. And I think what that does as well is it tells you not only how big an achievement it is, but how closely identified these fans are with the club. And that, to go back to where we started with this, is one of the reasons why Rino Matarazzo has been so successful, because he's understood that, because he's embraced the community, not just the club, the community, the city, the people.

36:16And this, for him and for them, is absolutely wonderful. Sid, what would be, talking about all those kids coming through and the difference in big names really from Atleti, Barca, Real Madrid to Real. What would be like a big spend for them if they were going on a transfer fee, if they were signing a player? Well, I mean, this is the curious thing. If you go through the team, I've actually got my notebook as you know, Craig, that I was always full of these kind of stats. You go through the team, there's actually quite a few relatively expensive players in Spanish terms in the Real Sociedad side.

36:47So Bryce Mendes who started on the bench Carlos Soler who was only four million, but you've got Takekubo You've got who else is it? I'm trying to think who the other one will be So go on there see those players that we're talking 10 15 million euros But those are big signings Ori Oskerson who came on I think was 19 million years These are really big signings from Real Southampton's point of view and they have a policy Which is what we want to bring youth teamers through and they set a target and the target is that in the first team they would like at least 60 % of the players to be youth teamers and that within the youth team structure they would like 80 % of the players coming through the youth team to be people who were born and raised in Gipulca which as I say is the smallest, geographically speaking the smallest province in the whole of Spain they do absolutely fantastic work at Fulbieta which is their training ground and I think it's played off again tonight and that does give them I think a depth of identity that makes them that little bit more special as well Well that's incredible to hear isn't it Stevie to think of the passion that they must all have playing for their team.

37:47Yeah, I mean, it's incredible. I actually thought of Celtic when he was thrown out all the stats. You know, the fact that all of the players came from Glasgow. So it's kind of a similar thing. But of all the things that we've seen today, the greatest thing is that the fans actually got to be there. Because sometimes when you look back in the history books, you'll say, well, they've already won a trophy. Why are they going so crazy? But the fact is, it probably doesn't feel to them as though they really want it. In black and white, it's on the sheet of paper that they did. But because they're not there, because you're not involved in it, so now they can scrap that.

38:28They can throw that old newspaper away. There's a new one, and we're here, and we're enjoying it. I think it is also for clubs like Real Sociedad, who are habitually around the European places in Spanish football, albeit this year's been more of a struggle although they are back up there now since Matarazzi took over it's validation isn't it in terms of alright you've got some spend as Sid said but it's not crazy it's not Real Madrid and Bas it's not Premier League money for sure it's 4 million here maybe 7 million there Sid mentioned 19 million but to have so many people that have came through the youth system it's validation that at least your club is doing something right and it's difficult to continually bring that amount through and go to the first team and they're good enough and all that sort of stuff, it's not easy to continue to have that conveyor belt.

39:15You're going to have maybe some years that are more sparse than others where there's not as many good kids coming through, but it's validation that that's the way they run this club. It's run within a pretty strict budget. It's got a magnificent fan base and it can still compete. And I think that's the most important. It's all very well bringing kids through from the youth team. That's great. But you still have to be able to compete in doing so. And clearly Real Sociedad have very much competed today. Yes, and they've beaten one of the big teams in La Liga today, Luis Atleti. What does it mean now for them?

39:44How will they pick themselves back up with the Champions League semifinals in their sights? Yeah, fortunately, they got that in their hand. It's still an option of winning a trophy, a very big trophy. And now they have to focus on that. No longer ago, they were changing and rotating a lot of players. when they had to play in La Liga competition, focusing on beating Barcelona on those quarterfinals. And now that they are in the semifinals, I guess the Simeones got very clear in the head that the Champions League is the primary option. They got that on their head. So I guess changing their mindset is going to be pretty quickly.

40:24They did a good effort. I mean, it's true that they have to get back from behind every single time from receiving and conceded that first goal early on the game. It's not easy to get back against a team that is well-organized and really intense. So it's been a good game. It's not that Atletico Madrid didn't show up today. But I am sure that Simeone is going to manage well his players. They got the option very soon to get back into the field. That's the best way of changing the mindset and having an option of playing in another final, knowing that they've been in two finals, they didn't have the chance of lifting it.

41:03I'm sure that Simeone is going to do whatever it takes to get ready all those players to fight against Arsenal. Yeah, well, it definitely probably doesn't hurt as much with what Luis has just said, Sid, the fact that they do now have this massive semi-final coming up in the Champions League. Yeah, I suppose the question mark then would be whether this impacts upon that semi-final, whether this takes something away from them or gives them a little bit of extra drive. Obviously, it's not like it often happens in the Cup of the Ray when you're knocked out early. You think, well, this is good because it takes games out of the schedule.

41:31It allows us to be a little bit fresher. It makes no difference from that point of view, of course. And I do think emotionally this will hurt. And Simeone was saying yesterday this was more than just winning a cup. It was about a momentum. It was about the things that they're trying to do, the things that they're trying to be. But there's no doubt that they will fight to the last in the Champions League. And I think they will feel at least that they have... Sorry, I was just checking what's happening behind me. They will feel at least that they have a chance of getting through against Arsenal and making it to a third final.

41:58I think it's worth just picking up briefly on Simeone, you know, and what this might have meant for him tonight. Simeone, ever since 1996, Atletico Madrid had only won two Copa LRAs and both of them involved him, one as a player, one as a manager. Now, obviously, he's lost a final. They've only ever been in three European Cup finals. Two of them are him as manager. He's looking for a third. They've only ever won two league titles. They're both with him as a manager since 1996 when they won it and he was there as a player. And so he will still be driven by the desire to, I think, settle a debt almost when you think back to what happened in the Champions League finals in both Milan and Lisbon when they lost to Real Madrid.

42:38I think they'll be relieved that Real Madrid aren't still in the Champions League final. And I think that will drive them, but I suspect that tonight will hurt. OK, Sid, we're going to let you go and find Pellegrino Matarazzo, your new mate. He's only got one job. You've only got one job to do, I said, tonight. Don't let us down. Let's see if I can find him. OK, you're causing Reno and everything now. The best buddy. Luis, you've been up all night as well. We're going to let you go to bed. What about us? You've got to keep going. You've got to keep going. You've got to stick with me. You too, Stevie.

43:07So here we go. Thank you so much, guys. Real Madrid against Alaves. We'll be back when La Liga returns on Tuesday, 3pm Eastern, for kick-off there. And the following day, Wednesday, brings us Barcelona against Celta. ESPN Plus, as you've covered, for both. Everything else on the latest edition of the Gab and Jules show. But the good news is Sid Lowe has caught up with Pellegrino Matarezzo. So let's get word now from the Real Sociedad winning coach.

43:35You see, some would call this biased journalism, but when the manager gives you the scarf, I don't think you've really got very much choice but to put it on. And with a very, very happy man, can you try and explain more or less what goes through your mind during a penalty shootout and what goes through your mind when the final penalty goes in?

43:55Is that a no?

43:58Exactly that. I mean, yes, there's tension, but there's tension throughout the whole game. We had a phase in the second half where we were suffering, and that was for me even more nerve-wracking. I knew we got to the penalties. We played a good game. We competed against Atletico de Madrid's team that's in the semi-final of the Champions League. I'm really, really proud of the boys. And I knew regardless of what happens, the whole city, the whole region would be proud of the boys. But, you know, if you're in a penalty shootout, you also want to win it. And when we've scored the last goal, of course, it was a magical moment.

44:40Presumably you have a sense, a feel for how big this is for the people. Because obviously they did win a Copa del Rey here five years ago. but you have to go back 38 years the last time they won it in front of fans and there's been I think throughout these five years a sense that something was missing back then I don't know how much that's being communicated to you whether that's a too much pressure or or that makes more joy of the occasion even before you win I mean obviously no it was definitely communicated to us that that it's very important for the fans because they were not the last last title and But pressure, I mean, this is our job.

45:20This is our job. This is our job. And yes, of course, a final brings another tension, another level to it. But we had so much support from the fans, from the entire city, which gave us more strength and not pressure, more the feeling that we were completely supported and we can just go for it today. Tell me about the psychological moments of a game like this, because for me at least, the thing that most struck me probably was that in the first nine minutes of extra time, you had six shots. Having had to resist in the second half, having watched Atletico come closer, having been five minutes from winning it and then them equalising and almost winning it them as well, for your team to then kind of stand back up again and say, right, let's do this again.

46:07It's a recurring theme, I think, since you've been manager. Yes, it is. It is. Why? What's happening? Because we are...

46:16We have the will to win, and we do whatever it takes to win. The character of this team is unbelievably positive, strong character. And it was important also to start controlling more of the game. We lost control of the game. We didn't get into a high press anymore. We didn't have any possession in the last second half, and we knew, okay, now we have a couple of minutes to rest, and now we attack higher, try to have more possession, control the game more. That was what we tried to do in the overtime. And I think it worked well. We were more in the game. They didn't have that many chances. So, yeah, boys, keep stepping up.

46:54There's a word in Germany, Stehelfmänner. It means you fall down. People that fall down, they just get back up again. There's like this toy that falls down and gets back up again. Like a weeble. There was a toy that was called a weeble that did that. We're weebles. Weebles wobble, but they don't fall down. That was the advert. Weebles wobble, but they don't fall down. We weeble, we wobble, but we don't fall. And we get up again. Tell me about you. And tell me about these last few months. And tell me about what it means to see your family in the stands. And how they must feel seeing you achieve this.

47:33Knowing the journey that you've been on. Knowing the moments in which you could have turned back. you could have turned away and you didn't?

47:43These questions are... See, last time you escaped this one. When I asked you this last time, you escaped this question. Why did I come over to this interview? You made it? It wasn't mandatory. Okay. No, they're super happy. I mean, my family, my wife, my son have sacrificed so much for me to do what I'm doing. You know, we've lived apart for five years. We're living apart again. My wife, who is very independent and strong, has supported me so many years and has always pushed me. I think I mentioned this to you in the last interview that there was a time where I was thinking, okay, maybe I'll settle with the family.

48:20She said, no, no, you're going to keep going because this is your dream. And I did. So she's sacrificed so much. So this win, this title is also for my entire family, not just my wife and my son, but for my parents who have given me so much strength and love. and all my ancestors and everything. I'm a big family guy. You know, I come from a big Italian family, and so this one's also for them. Now what? Continue. I said this is my... But do you take a... I mean, obviously, you continue because you want to keep competing, but do you take a moment to kind of go, look what we've done? Is it important to celebrate?

48:59We play on Wednesday. Yeah, that's the problem. Yeah, we play on Wednesday against Getafe. and fifth place is still possible Champions League and yes we qualify for Europa League with with this title which is fantastic fantastic look forward to that three competitions next season but you know there's more there's more there's more there's more to win and but of course we're going to celebrate tonight it's clear we're going back to the hotel we're gonna have dinner with the families with when you flying back to Donosti tomorrow tomorrow going back tomorrow and then we'll probably party again tomorrow.

49:32Yeah, I would like to think you would take at least a couple of nights over this. I know you've been learning little bits of Basque with your Spanish, so I assume you've had a few people say jodoniak to you tonight. Yes, they did. Esquericasco. Very much a pleasure. Congratulations. Thank you. Thank you very much. Well, there you go. A very happy man.

50:00Well, he didn't fail. He didn't fail us this time, old Sid. He got his man. Sid, Football America special. You can check that out. It is streaming right now on ESPN+. Smalls here, look, I get it. GLP-1 weight loss shots are popular. They're everywhere. But not everyone is thrilled about weekly injections. So what if your GLP-1 was as easy to take as a mint? That's why I want you to know about compounded terzepatide. It's a mint-flavored tablet you simply let dissolve under your tongue. No needles. It's designed to help curb appetite and reduce cravings, even sweets and carbs, which are my personal enemies.

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51:43I think that's it. I don't think we're going to get any more surprises in our highlights today. Maybe a few more highlights from the Borussia Dortmund-Hoffenheim game. By the way, is the Liverpool game cancelled tomorrow? Oh, yeah, because we're doing ESPN FC earlier. You're a bit annoyed about this, right? What? Liverpool, not important anymore. Extra time's on the way next. See you over there. Liverpool are playing at nine. Welcome into the latest edition of Extra Time. Stevie, what's wrong? I just wonder whether the Liverpool event game has been cancelled. Why? Well, nobody's bothered about it.

52:16What are you talking about? because we're doing the show at 1.30 tomorrow? No. Right. Oh, we never... We never even mentioned it. We never pre-edited it. That's just... Merseyside Derby doesn't matter anymore. Does it matter? Both teams are rubbish. Oh, you're right. Does it matter? Apparently not. OK, we've got Jules with us as well. We've got no music today. I know some of you will probably be quite happy about that, no music on Extra Time, but let's get to some of the questions, shall we? I can sing it I'll hum I'll hum the tune Go on then You know where the technical difficulties came from The Brucey Adoptment Highlight Whenever the Hoffenheim chances come in the control room went on fire Aye Yes Right let's go on with this Craig can you make a case for a senior to stay on beyond this season No That's quite a simple one Should Chelsea bring in Lampard for the FA Cup semi can anyone realistically believe Rossini as Chelsea can beat Leeds?

53:17Jules. I mean, no to Lampard, let's be serious here. Although he probably would do with the momentum and the confidence that he has now after taking Coventry back up to the Premier League after all those years, maybe actually he would be better than Rossini. I think a lot of managers would be better than Rossini, but it can happen. I believe that Leeds will knock out Chelsea at Wembley next weekend. I see the generators working. Yeah. Music again. Okay, Stevie, pick one of these three coaches for Liverpool next year. See, we have mentioned Liverpool. Keep Slott, Xabi Alonso or Andoni Iriola? Ooh.

53:59Oh, it's got again. The tough ones, I like Iriola. I like the way Bournemouth played again.

54:14Under normal circumstances I would have said Alonso but he absolutely bombed at the El Madrid and you have to take that into consideration.

54:31However, I don't think that FSG, the final slot is not going to be there at the start of the season. I don't see how FSG don't go with Alonso. So I'm going to go Alonso. That's what you'd pick regardless of what happens. This is your choice. Keep slot, Xabi Alonso or Erreola? I think so. I think ultimately. If something happened with Alonso and he didn't want it or they weren't keen on what happened at Real Madrid, I would have absolutely no problem with Andoni Erreola next season. Jules was watching the Ronaldinho Netflix documentary With your PSG roots, what was your reaction when he first signed for PSG?

55:13Because at the time, PSG was not the powerhouse that they are now. Were you shocked that he signed for PSG? Yeah, I haven't watched it yet. A few of my kids have watched it, my brother as well, and everybody seems to say that it's great. I mean, I promise you, in Europe, not many people knew about how good he was or not in Brazil right when he arrived but we knew there was this kind of like Brazilian gem coming over and that it could well be very special so you can just imagine the excitement suddenly in our house and then first game after five minutes it was just obvious one that he was almost a genius two that he would be great for PSG but not stay for too long and three, that at some point, probably Paris' life would take over the Paris football, in a way, in Ronaldinho's life and that things could get very different very quickly.

56:12And that's exactly what happened. First season, very good, amazing player. Second season, still amazing player, very good. Last season, and a lot of parties. But hey, that's part of the character. But it was an amazing, really, it was an amazing time to have him at the club. What year was that, Jules, when he signed? 2000. 2000? Long time ago. I can't remember. Well, you're not in that documentary, Jules. You often pop up on these type of documentaries.

56:43No, I could not do this one. The date didn't match. I'm not watching it then. All right, Craig, is Palmer going to the World Cup? Yes. Probably. Maybe. Came up tonight, didn't it, in the show, Steve? Look, he's not exactly... We've talked long and hard about the French players, you know, Dembele and Dewey and Bercola and particularly Michael Alissi and others. And they're all... It seems most of them are all gathering momentum at a great time. Playing well, finishing the season strongly. Tuchel's got the opposite problem. He's got Bellingham coming back in at Real Madrid. He's been out. He's got Foden out at Man City.

57:26he's got Palmer off form I haven't seen much of Morgan Rodgers recently because I haven't seen a lot of Villa recently but he's been a big player so I don't know exactly what his form's been like. He's been good, he's still been doing it So yeah, obviously Harry Kane's fit again and playing again at Bayern and that's huge but in terms of playmakers Bukaya Saka was another one, hasn't been playing well, has also injured so there's a lot of players that we thought, well, Thomas Tuchel's going to have a hard time selecting the best one out of these. Well, actually, there's actually not many of them in any type of form, never mind fitness.

58:06So I think Parma will go to the World Cup. I would imagine he would. But he's not playing well. OK. It's a shame for England, really, isn't it? Oh, God, he's... Don't have a blow-off, you're a Scottish person. You get the final say on this one, Jules. I think it's very simple it's Foden or Palmer I don't think Tuchel will take both so and like Stevie said earlier at least Palmer is playing I know he's not playing great but he's playing Foden is not even sometimes coming off the bench so I think for me right now it would be Palmer going and Foden staying at home but he can very quickly change but I don't think both of them will go that'll do it unlike the Borussia Dortmund Hoffenheim highlight this was short and sweet tonight Thank you so much for sending in your questions.

58:54We will be back tomorrow to do it all over again.

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