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20:15Yes, they can play a lot, lot better than they did in this game and it all came down to the philosophy you know we've seen Spain start the tournament and pass it and keep the ball when the opposition dropped too deep against Cabo Verde and they draw the game the second game they play okay we've got to play at much quicker pace yes they had Jamal playing for them on that occasion but the ball was played for but there was more forward runs we saw Portugal in the first game with all their players all their technical players keeping the ball in midfield playing around the back not getting it forward quite quickly enough the opposition then squeeze up to stop Ronaldo running in behind all the good performances in this tournament have been teams that are dynamic at the start of games that play the ball forward that run forward that aren't afraid of giving the ball away but trying to play the most uh what the advantageous ball they possibly can England have to do that in this game they didn't do it they did it in the second half of the first game against Croatia and they did it in the last 10 minutes why wait until the last 10 minutes to show urgency?

21:17Do it right from the start of the game. I'll tell you what the papers are screaming out for back home, reading the papers. You watch Elliot Anderson, you watch Declan Rice, amazing players. They're screaming out why wasn't Adam Wharton taken because he's a player that can play through the lines. He's a player that can pass the ball forward. So you look energy-wise and you look at it on paper and you think Anderson and Rice, fantastic partnership. But up against the teams that Stu just mentioned where they're going to keep the ball, in this heat those two have got to chase the balls down and close everyone down and be effective in their running and the closing down, that's hard work.

21:47So the better teams like the Spain and the France and one or two others, Portugal maybe might come into their bracket if they can sort of convince everyone they can do it because they've got technicians in midfield who can keep the ball away from anyone. England have to be better on the ball. They have to be patient and they have to be better and they have to get chances to wide players, frontmen. So Don's just used the word that I really do hate in football at the moment. Patience. because that's exactly what England did. But when you watch Jean Neves and you watch Fettinia, and you go, they've got the ultimate patience because they back themselves technically to keep hold of the ball.

22:24Yeah, they've got to get the ball forward. Portugal showed too much. You want old school. No, you don't go back to front all the time, but you're looking for the next forward pass. Exactly what we've just been talking about. England didn't pass the ball forward enough. They didn't have enough forward runners. Portugal, you know, with those players you mentioned, in the first game couldn't break anybody down because they were passing the ball too much. They need penetration.

22:46Dan Thomas:When it comes to patience, you've got no patience, right? All right. We will be talking about Scotland and Brazil when we do return because those guys will be facing off, but there will be more chat on what went down in that England game and Ronaldo's antics on ESPN FC, our YouTube channel. Make sure to click subscribe while you are there. Yes, Scotland and Brazil are in Miami. And on the pitch and off the pitch, who's got the best fans? We'll discuss next.

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25:43Dan Thomas:Scotland, Brazil coming up at Miami Stadium in Group C. And the two teams, as you can see, their standings in the table right now. Brazil on four points, Scotland on three. Steve Clarke standing on the precipice of history. Can he lead Scotland to their first knockout stages of a major tournament? But with Brazil and Scotland facing off in Miami, that is where the party is at right now. And that, of course, is where Adrian Healy is at right now, because he's been loving the party atmosphere. Adrian, you've seen firsthand now both the Scotland fans and the Brazil fans. We've seen them all partying together.

26:18Dan Thomas:Who's got the best fans of those two nations?

26:23Oh, I tell you what, Kay, that is a delicious question. here in Miami Beach, in iconic Miami Beach on Ocean Drive. I tell you what, the Tartan Army boogiers and the Brazilian samburers have been bringing the energy. There's not much to choose between them off the pitch, but I'd have to say the Scots win in the bars, but the Brazilians still undefeated on the dance floor and on the sand as well, which is just over there. But I tell you what, the Tartan Army have done a great job taking over the city as well. They were in Little Havana on Monday taking over a Marlins game. When was the last time a Florida Marlins game sold out?

27:01Well, they managed to make that happen on Monday night. And then right here on iconic Ocean Drive, this was a sea of tartan yesterday as they marched up and down. So it has been as usual with the Scots, harmony everywhere. They love the fact that they're meeting the Brazilians again for the fifth time in World Cup tournament, and they are making the most of it. What a different city, though. and they are loving the difference here between Miami and their last port of call in Boston.

27:28Dan Thomas:And it looks as though it's a little bit early for both sets of fans once again, Adrian, there in Miami.

27:37Yeah, you know, it's always got this morning after the night before feel. I mean, they go late. They party hard here. I mean, we're talking three, four in the morning that the Tartan Army have really indulged in the local specialty, which isn't beer, it's big cocktails, which are worth about four pints at a time. but they've been ordering those up a storm. So not surprisingly, little slow getting going. Ocean Drive is starting to wake up. People coming out for breakfast, but they are just gearing up for what is a massive day at Hard Rock Stadium just up the road.

28:10Dan Thomas:It is. They're coming up to see you, Adrian, of course. But will they see Neymar tonight at the Hard Rock Stadium? That's a big question, isn't it? Because there's talk that we might be seeing Neymar for the first time since what, October 2023 in a Brazil shirt? yep certainly Carlo Ancelotti saying he's going to be available he wasn't committed on whether he's going to start I somehow doubt that he will start I think we may see the Bournemouth teenager Ryan filling in for the the injured Rafinha but Neymar is going to be a factor and of course he's going to be the story if he does come on yeah absolutely he will so what's the thoughts then going into the game and what does Scotland need here because a narrow defeat they could still do it right yeah and you know the tartan army are very sanguine and realistic about the prospects here i mean this is this is a tall order for steve clark on their side uh but a narrow defeat may well be enough uh thing is this is the first of the uh the third games in the group so they are not going to know what is enough for them for another four days so if they do go down to a narrow defeat they're all going to be on tenterhooks waiting to see what happens in the other groups And, you know, Scotland fans are like looking at, well, where are we going to go next if we do go through all sorts of all sorts of choices?

29:27But, yeah, the more optimistic saying, yeah, maybe we can maybe we can squeeze a draw out of this. Maybe we don't we get Brazil not on a good day. And, you know, they've had plenty of those recently. Are Brazil really going to hit their stride is a question. And can Steve Clarke's team do enough to prevent that from happening and still give themselves a chance to to go up the other end and cause some damage, which the Scots believe they can.

29:50Dan Thomas:All right, lovely stuff. Thank you so much, Adrian. We know it's hot down there, so we're going to let you get some air conditioning and get ready for tonight's game. Yeah. Lovely stuff. Thank you, Adrian. Brilliant stuff, Kate. Stewie, Don, thanks, guys. Great to see you. Always great to see you. Where are you on the Neymar factor in Brazil? Oh, don't even start me on Neymar. I remember when he was going to move from Barcelona to PSG and I was saying, well, the best thing that can happen to Barcelona as if he does go because I'm not a fan of Neymar. I haven't been for quite some while. He was, when he was younger, an outstanding player.

30:25He could go past people. But more and more, he's become a trickster. I don't like his antics on the field. I'm not, as you can tell, not a great fan of Neymar. I hope he doesn't play. Oh, no. Oh, my days.

30:37Dan Thomas:Brazil's top scorer, Don. Do you want to see him? I want to see him. I mean, not from a Scottish point of view. I want to see him. I think what Brazil will do and Ancelotti will do, they'll see how the game goes in terms of the scoreline, if they're comfortable in the game, you might see him for 20 minutes. I think he'll have been a tad harsh. I think when you look at his ability, he's got natural ability. I think his body's let him down over the years. He's had some horrendous injuries. I think a young Neymar and a Barca Neymar, he was one of the best in the world. He moved to PSG because he wanted the Ballon d 'Or.

31:06So he probably moved financially and wanted to get out of Messi's shadow to try and escape that and try and win a Ballon d 'Or. I think when you hear from Neymar in the future when he retires, he'd probably say that was the biggest mistake of his life because prime Neymar at Barca, where Messi and Suarez were just unstoppable. So I think his bodies let him down in terms of injuries. How do you cope? How do you try and manage that? It's difficult. Now you're trying to play catch-up. At his age now, you just want minutes. You just want to try and show a little bit of what Messi and what Ronaldo, what Mbappe are all about.

31:38You just want to add a little bit of sprinkle just to say to everyone, I can still do it, you know.

31:43Dan Thomas:What do you think of Brazil at this tournament? They're going to miss Rafinha because I've seen him week in, week out for Barcelona. And Barcelona are a totally different team. Everyone talks about Jamal and Jamal is absolutely outstanding. But the movement of Rafinha is as good as anybody's in the world. He's the ability to keep making runs in behind the opposition. That's why Barcelona, when teams sit deep or when teams try and press them, they can always find a way because they've got a good passer in the ball in Pedri. They've got somebody who can run with the ball in the wide play, Yemel.

32:16And they've got somebody that will make run after run after run for balls in behind. And that's Rafinha. And they're going to miss that.

32:22Dan Thomas:So let's get to Scotland then. Obviously, a win or a draw, Scotland is true. But as we just mentioned, even a narrow defeat could do it for them. They can't go into that game thinking about a narrow defeat. That's the last thing you can go into the game. From what I took from the Morocco game, there was a lack of belief from the players or Steve Clarke. I mean, Stewie done the analysis on England there. I could do two hours on Scotland and the Morocco game because, you know, Scott McTominay got voted MVP at Napoli two seasons ago. One of the best midfield players, scoring midfield players, number 10, number 8, whichever bracket you want to put him in.

32:56The amount of times he was going deep and getting it off Scotland's back four, it was doing my head in. Why wouldn't you just leave that to McLean if he plays or John McGinn or Ferguson who had a good season at Bologna? These guys are capable enough to handle the ball. Why are you asking a number 10 whose best asset is to run in the box, get goals, get assists, to come 60 yards away from goal and get the ball off your centre-backs? It was baffling. So that's either from Steve Clarke telling him to do that, which is a no-no because he knows Scott McTominay's assets and knows what he can do when he's higher up the pitch.

33:29Or I would lean on the players like John McGinn or like McLean or like Ferguson to say to him, get away, man. Get away from us. We can get the ball off our back four and we can start the attacks off. And we need you closer to, I think, Lauren Shankland. He might go Che Adams because of his pace, but Shankland's the best number nine Scotland have got. So he's got to pick, and Ben Gannandoke's another. He didn't play in Morocco again, which was a strange one to me because when you have five midfield players, four at the back, five across the middle, you need players that can carry the ball. Gannandoke's that player.

34:01So I think it's going to come down to his team selection.

34:03Dan Thomas:I think he's going to volunteer himself for the sandbox tomorrow. Oh, he's got to do the sandbox. What I would say, Adrian did say the Scottish fans weren't quite sure where they were going to go next. I can tell you where they're going to go next. Don't say home. Edinburgh to Glasgow. What a cringe. How long are you here for? Yeah, only two days. Good. Oh, my goodness. Stuart Robson. Well, we'll find out tomorrow. Thank you so much for talking Scotland with us in a more positive manner than Stuart Robson did, Don Hutchison. We do need to talk now about the USA, though, because coming up, we will be hearing from NFL legend Antonio Freeman on his son, Alex Freeman.

34:43Go, Alex!

35:03Dan Thomas:It's been a good showing for the US men's national team so far, and particularly for young defender Alex Freeman, who had a goal for his side against Australia, some important defensive interventions, and it was all around a super showing. But the apple doesn't fall too far from the tree, but it's the other football his father, Antonio Freeman, played, a Super Bowl champion and NFL legend, a Packers Hall of Famer, and the man behind one of the most iconic catches in Monday Night Football history. Well, Arsene Barden managed to catch up with Antonio Freeman to speak more about his son. Antonio, how would you describe what this experience has been like for you, seeing your son and his teammates having so much success?

35:49It was like an out-of-body experience watching it. I mean, really, it was a wave of emotions, watching him get hurt, watching him come back, watching him score, watching the VAR delay. and then just seeing the stadium go crazy and his teammates, man. That's the most heartwarming thing for me as a parent is to see his teammates who are all a bunch of accomplished men playing in their own exclusive leagues overseas just to rally around the youngest kid, baby boy, you know, on the team. And the excitement that they had in their eyes, it just, as a parent, It just lets you know that your kid's being protected.

36:32They're watching over him. They're not bullying him. Now, making the World Cup team is an amazing accomplishment in and of itself. Scoring a goal, though, in a World Cup, what was that like? I mean, scoring a goal as a right fullback. It doesn't happen very often in real soccer, let alone in FIFA. So I don't go into these games thinking, oh, Alex is going to score a goal. But a lot of my friends are like, he's going to score this game. He's going to score. And I'm thinking, like, he's a right fullback. like how? But just watching him score, it was just, he said it, he was full circle, but it was just for me, it was like the next chapter, you know, another book, and he's going to be able to write his own book from a play like that, because now that slowly separates you from the connection to Antonio Neal Freeman.

37:25And now the landscape opens for you to take your own show as the Alex Freeman pro soccer player. And that's what I saw when I saw that go. I saw like passing of the throne in a new chapter, in a new book. I think the sky's the limit with this team. If they can just continue to stay together, we can get number 10 back. We got to get my guy back now and just have everybody healthy. I think that's when you're when you're entering the playoffs or a system like this, a knockout system, it's about who stays healthy. And if these guys can stay healthy, I think that they can continue to win games. Thanks so much.

38:02Thanks for having me.

38:03Dan Thomas:Go Alex! Oh, lovely stuff. Yes, go Alex. This is his numbers against Australia with that goal. Team ranked first in that. In aerial, Jules won. In tackles, in clearances, he was second. And in defensive interventions. He was tied for third in this game. This is quite a showing. How does he build on this, the Villarreal player? Well, he's been excellent. I mean, he's a good 1v1 defender. He can get forward as well. He's got width outside of him, so he sometimes sort of would tuck inside. When Anthony Robinson goes and plays as a left wing back, he tucks in to become a third centre-half, so he's got defensive qualities.

38:41He's a good athlete. He's decent on the ball. He's what you want from a modern right back, come right-sided centre-half. He's been excellent for them.

38:49Dan Thomas:He really has. Don, I saw you almost tearing up there. You've got a son who plays the game himself. Obviously, as a father, to watch your son go on and have his own career and do that, it must be wonderful to see. Especially when you watch that footage there and his dad was such a legend and lovely grainy footage. I love watching old school American football footage there. And he's got the pressure, the son, of trying to emulate his dad in a completely different sport. What he needs to do now is, it's a bit of a phrase, but he needs to stay humble, keep working hard. As Stu said, he's at a good age at 21.

39:19He's in the national side. He needs to churn out more games for Villarreal. That's what you need now when you're at that age at 21 and you're making your way and you're playing well in the World Cup. What you've got to do now is stay consistent and you want to try and hit 25, 30 games. He's very versatile. He can play right back, right side, right side at centre back. So in terms of his ceiling, he can go as far as he can, but he's got to keep working hard and just keep evolving all the time. and just doing the things you're doing because it's working for him.

39:46Dan Thomas:So let me stay with you, Don, because it didn't start this way for the US, but suddenly they find themselves in the odds board there because it's 10th as it stands right now when it comes to the favourites to win the whole tournament. I'm interested to know from you, Don, because obviously you've just come from the UK, what's the perception been of the US as the tournament's started to progress? Yeah, I think the perception in England is very strange towards America. They don't really watch a lot of American football, soccer. I watch a lot of the players that play for the United States. Tyler Adams at Bournemouth.

40:18Weston McKinney's been Juve's best player now for two or three years. Anthony Robertson, I thought he might have made his move to a big club like Liverpool probably 18 months ago. Christian Pulisic, the star boy. He needs to try and hit form when he's fit. So when you look at what America have got, you do look at a lot of the players and think, well, why shouldn't they go pretty far in the competition? It's all about their attitude. Sometimes I hear from journalists at work, I hear that sometimes there's a line between being arrogant. I don't see it in them, but sometimes that's the feeling from the journalist.

40:51I don't see it in them, but when I look at the individuals, if Pochettino can formulate and get these players playing as a team, why can't they go far? Because most of these guys are playing top-level football.

41:02Dan Thomas:Is there a case of keep doing what you've been doing? Absolutely. They've got to play with high intensity. They've got to play in the opposition's half. We saw in the second half against Australia when they just dropped that little bit deeper, they didn't look the same team. When they play with intensity and they've got their energy and they get the ball forward, as they did in the first game and the first half of the game against Australia, they blew the teams away. But they've got to keep that urgency in their play. If they don't take this game particularly seriously, when I say seriously, they sort of think, oh, we can just pass it around.

41:36The result doesn't matter. They get in the wrong habits. that will stop the momentum going into the last 32. They've got to play with passion in this game.

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43:03Dan Thomas:Pitch Preview is brought to you by DraftKings Sports. Another day of action. Sunday, World Cup schedule. Bosnia against Qatar, Switzerland, Canada, Morocco, Haiti, Scotland, Brazil, Czechia, Mexico, South Africa, South Korea. We're all losing track of the days because it is Wednesday. Just a reminder, in case you were wondering. But who even knows at this point? Look who's with us. Christina Alexander. Great to have you back on the show, Christina, especially because we're getting to see Mexico back in action. However, it's a luxury position, or is it, for Aguirre right now? What's he going to do for this game?

43:37Dan Thomas:I think it's going to look a little bit different, obviously, for Mexico. And I think for a lot of these teams that have really secured that top spot. But I think you probably won't see him because of the accumulation of yellow cards. So that's obviously kind of a no-brainer for Javier Aguirre. But obviously, you know what I'm leading to, right? Who's going to be the goalie for Mexico? Listen, my heart says that I want it to be Memochoa. I want him to have a few minutes. I want him to have that last final goodbye and glorious game for Mexico. However, mentally speaking, we know that the goalie's position is the most respected one.

44:14Dan Thomas:If you're number one, you're number one, no matter if you've secured the group, no matter if it's the easiest game that you're going to have in the World Cup. But for Tal Arangel, I think if you think about the approximately 12 days that'll pass between Mexico's last game and the next game for Tal Arangel, that's a little bit tricky, too, because he really has to stay in the game. And I don't know that he's been as sharp as a lot of Mexicans fans would like him to see. But again, as a Mexican fan, my heart would love to see Guillermo Chua have a few minutes. OK, but it sounds like that's not going to be the one that most people are going for.

44:47Dan Thomas:All right. Speaking of Mexico, obviously, it's hard not to be looking beyond this game right now. What's all the talk been? Yeah. Listen, the expectation and everything around it is that Mexico is going to secure nine points for the first time in history in a World Cup in the group stage. So why not? They've never won all three, right? So am I doing this? Yeah, I'm looking for Mexico right now. The group is feeling really great. We know that obviously heading into a World Cup, the kind of excitement around the Mexican team is always renewed. I talked about that last week, Kay. But as you all know, in the locker room environment, you really have to just be confident in each other.

45:26Dan Thomas:And it seems like the locker room is really feeling that with Javier Aguirre, with Rafa Marquez. The results, obviously, it wasn't the cleanest game against South Korea, but the result came through in that glorious moment here at the end. Raul Jimenez, I don't know how many minutes he's going to have here. Again, just administering those minutes. Santi Jimenez is going to get that opportunity. So again, it's all of these players that no matter who plays, they'll be happy to see those players get minutes. And why not keep all of your men happy in a game that I don't want to say doesn't matter because of the historical context of it.

45:56But I do see Mexico here getting... Haven't you got that far ahead where who Mexico could play next when they top the group? Have you looked at the permutations?

46:04Dan Thomas:Kay kind of scooted away from me already because England is that possibility. Scotland is a possibility. Oh, you don't want Scotland. He's already said we're not going to be there. Don't want Scotland, but I don't know if we want Cape Verde either with what we've seen from the World Cup. The darling so far of the World Cup. Stuart, who have you got? Well, I'm going to go for Mexico. I've seen them play both their games. And Christina's stood next to you. And she's just giving me a great explanation. But what I do worry about Mexico is if they win a goal down, have they got enough creativity to get back into games.

46:33That would be my worry.

46:34Dan Thomas:What are you saying, Don? I'm all the way over there. I'm trusting the guys. Just keep on rolling. Azteca will be packed with a great atmosphere. Get a win. Me too. Three from three for the first time in history. Okay, I'll come back. I'll come back, Tom. Okay, stay with us as well, Christina. We'll get the predictions for you for the next ones that we've got. Okay, guys, South Africa against South Korea. Christina, you're off. Yeah, I think South Korea, right, with maybe the creativity up front with what we saw in Mexico. They were really creating a lot of plays. They just needed that last final detail.

47:04Dan Thomas:I think they can find that against South Africa. You've gone on the positive side. Yes. I'm going to go on the negative side. South Africa have been terrible. So South Korea are going to win the game. But still the same out. For a different reason. Two different versions of how it can be. See, for the first time in my life, I'm agreeing with Shu. I've seen South Africa play. And I don't know what it is with them where they just feel as though they've come into this World Cup being aggressive and trying to kick every single player off the park. Need to show more quality. All right. I'll stick with you guys then.

47:33Dan Thomas:Always going to anyway. All right. Bosnia and Hurtigovina against Qatar. Christina. I'm kind of feeling like a draw, which I know that before I was saying. You were the one that said we can't put draws. Did Canada beat Qatar 6-0 last time? Yes, yes. So I think it's going to be Bosnia. Yeah, Qatar to recover from that, a little tough. No, they've been struggling. Lopetegui can't find the right formula. for Qatar and Bosnia have been okay. They've got a bit of a threat going forward. So I'm gonna go for Bosnia to win the game. Listen, when you get walloped 6-0 in the last game, it's hard to recover from.

48:12Dan Thomas:Well, look at us all agreeing. It's a little bit unsettling. All right. Switzerland, Canada. Chris. This one, this one could be a draw, but it could be like an exciting 2-2 draw here, very back and forth, what we're seeing from Switzerland and Canada. but I think I want, no, I don't want to go against my own word, but I like this game maybe a little bit more for Canada. It all depends what teams they put out. I've seen Canada dominate sides. Switzerland have been slightly off in the forward areas. I'm going to go on this occasion. There we go. Or Switzerland. I'm going to have a slight disagreement.

48:51See, I'm going to be a little bit braver than you. Okay. But I think I trust you with your initial analysis. this is going to be a 3-3 draw.

48:59Dan Thomas:Okay. 3-3. I'm feeling a lot of goals. That's what I'm saying. You sort of went with a 2-2 and then you changed it at the last second. I'm trusting you and I think open game 3-3. Okay. I'm going to go with a draw. Nice. There we go. I've never heard you as somebody who would sit on the fence. Yeah, I'm sitting on the fence. I'm not saying 4-4 though. I'd be more like a 1-1. But we'll see. We'll see how it all goes. All right. Morocco, Haiti, Christina. I mean, unfortunately for Haiti, it's been kind of a tough go, right? So far, especially their last outing against Brazil. So I like Morocco for this one.

49:33Yeah, any team that loses against Scotland can't win a game.

49:35Dan Thomas:So it's going to be Morocco over there. Terrible. Just take the knife out of the side of there. But it is going to be a big Morocco win. Yeah, same. They're too good. They really are. Oh, no. Don't let him go first. No, Christine's going first. Or let him go first. OK, if you want me to go first. There's no doubt about it. The Scots will sit deep. They won't get out their half for the first 25 minutes. And Brazil will get an early goal. And it's going to be Brazil. I thought you were just going to take it over. I want to put Scotland for you, Don. But I think Brazil got the confidence that they needed last game.

50:14Well, a message to Steve Clarke. Go and die on your shield. Go and have a go. And if you do, you might just get a win. But you might just get a draw.

50:22Dan Thomas:1-1 draw. Sorry, Don. But it'll be a narrow defeat, okay? All right, I'll tell you. Like a 1-0. A 3-0. For Scotland, that's a narrow defeat. Come on, guys. Scotland are brave. Kate, by the way, I wanted to ask you, where were you yesterday? Oh, yeah. Well, my children had never been to a football match, let alone a World Cup match. And so we went to Boston. And a lot of rain. What an experience for them, though, eh? Do you know what? It was absolutely wonderful. and all they wanted to do was talk to the fans of both sides, which was just great. So no goals, but a great experience. We'll never forget that.

50:59Dan Thomas:Neither will I. Nil-nil. Thanks, Tuchel. See you tomorrow with more.