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26:25They're winning. And to your point, he could also have these comments behind closed doors with the players. And he could be saying to the English press, these lads are fighting tooth in nail. It's like getting blood out. I can't ask for any more from them. They've been absolutely brilliant. Can we play better? Yeah, we can play better. And I think we will. And then when he goes behind the scenes, he says, listen, lads, this is great, but we need to improve it. Yeah, but you see, Jules was saying that it was very disappointing with England. So you cannot lie. But what he can show is maybe what he wants to show to the press is that he's ambitious, that he wants the team to do better.

27:03That's why he's saying we didn't have a good performance. I'm not happy with the performance. Yes, you're right. On the close, I say, guys, I'm saying stuff to the press. Don't listen to it. Because that's what I'm going to say. I'm very happy with your performance. We should have done better. We're a little bit sloppy, but we have to do better. But I'm going to say something for the press, and they're going to be happy with that. Do you know what, though? we're talking about it but it really doesn't matter it's not a big deal in that dressing room I disagree I'll tell you why Gilles at the end of the day we're all going to everyone's judged by what happens on the field and if England win the semi-final nobody will give a stuff about these comments unless they rear its head again so at the end of all this it's a kind of school ground tit for tat But everyone's job and performance is going to boil down to how far England go in this tournament and how they go about it.

28:03Everybody agreed to say that Tuchel is safe for after the World Cup. He would have lost that game. He would have been out, I think. Maybe. Maybe the FA would have been... Do you think this will have an effect between... Do you think this will affect performance? With the little spat between them two? Yeah. I don't think it's a good look. And we said before, Tuchel is a bit too honest at times. Since day one, he's been too open, too honest. Some of the comments that he made, whether it's press conference interviews, the famous one on Bellingham and how Tuchel's mum, you know, look at him, etc. But even after that, I think he's been a bit too honest.

28:37It's a bad look. For your best player to answer your head coach in that way, saying whatever. That's a whatever, whatever, whatever. The most serious one for me is when he says, oh, he doesn't know Tuchel. He's never played at this level. He doesn't know what it is to be on the pitch like this in a World Cup game. Maybe that's a reflection of the comments Tuchel made several months ago. Yeah, about his merman. Yeah, he now feels he's in a position that he can have a jive back. For me, this shows there's something still there. And you know what, to be fair, we never really thought it was all clean and we're best friends and let's go on holidays together if you're Tuchel and Bellingham.

29:12But for me, this shows, and the face that, because we only showed you the quotes, the face of Bellingham, when asked the question, he goes, whatever. We lead this game for Tuchel and Tuchel's common. And you're right, tomorrow they will move on, they will prepare for the Argentina game. It's on Wednesday, so it's very, very quick now. But it's not a good look. Can I go to Aide? Because I do want to get Aide's view on this, please. Yeah, I saw that post-game interview. It was Gabriel Clark from ITV, wasn't it? And, you know, Tuchel, as you guys have so eloquently highlighted, is always straight to the point, isn't he?

29:45Almost to the point of being jarring sometimes, certainly to English sensibilities, maybe not to Germans. But honestly, I didn't have a problem. This is an elite-level coach trying to raise the bar for his team. He's just got his team to only their third World Cup semifinal in 60 years. But he knows they have to be better if they're going to go further to get past Argentina and then possibly France or Spain. They have to be better, and he knows it, and he knows they were perhaps a little bit lucky to win tonight. And that's all it was. He didn't ever question their mentality or commitment, and he went out of his way to say that.

30:20And in terms of Jude, I think he was just sticking up for his teammates, saying, hey, that was hard work out there. He was also giving credit to Norway, and he went through four or five, six different Norway players saying, these are really good players. We had to dig very deep to win. So I think it's a bit of a storm in the key. But a lot of it came about because of Gabriel Clark's sort of questioning to Jude, saying, well, did you hear what Thomas Tuchel said? I think you'll be forgotten about quickly It's this kind of basic psychology We've all had coaches so you could score a hat trick Why didn't you score four?

30:53There's a school of thought in England and I don't know if it's true or not that the media sometimes are out to destroy the English national team The back pages may write about how great this is and the front pages will make a headline that's going the opposite way to create a storm and England have used that I think sometimes as an excuse of why they haven't got over the line that there's this media agenda against some of these players for stories, and it affects the team. Other countries seem to manage pretty all right with similar things. This isn't a media agenda. This is two of your big stars answering questions.

31:31Yes, but what happens then sometimes is it goes from the back pages and the front pages to the tabloids, and it's all blown up. And before you know it, we're talking only about that. But these are experienced players and managers who know that. So why give us the fodder? Why give us something to talk about? Sometimes I come out and say that. You may have noticed during this show that sometimes people can't help. Yeah, I know. What's interesting, the relationship between these two... He's talking about me, but I'm the only one to say that you shouldn't go public. It's not me, that's about you. What's interesting is that these two characters, you can't imagine either giving any way in this.

32:07Yeah, and in a way. But as Craig said, going forward, does this matter? He's carrying Tuchel at the moment. Yeah, absolutely. I don't know where this team will be without Jude, even more than Kane in this World Cup. And that means where Tuchel will be. It's hard to believe that there was a time where there was a debate about Jude's position within this team and even within this squad. That was justified for us to have because Tuchel himself had a question mark of a do I take him or not? Do I start him or not? Now, obviously, he's been outstanding. There's no doubt. This is a wonderful graphic of his impact.

32:39It's not bad names on that graphic, is it? It's incredible, really, when you think about it. But the talent was never the problem. The problem was the attitude at the time. And I think Tourelle had some issues with Jude's attitude. What you say is honest. Was he wrong to any comment that he made? Was either person wrong? No. Was it either person? Well, I'm sorry, but from the beginning, Tourelle, on his comment on Jude Billigam, was right all the time. All the time. What he says is the way he's thinking, the way he's working. he's not the right way, he's a great player but he's not the right way, it made him react it, being the Jude Billigan that we have known some years ago and being so effective and so good but what he says about the game today is not wrong would you say that it was so why do you Jude was right as well though he was right, both people have made correct statements haven't they the comment of Jude Billigan is to go against Tuchel's comment where Tuchel's command is absolutely right.

33:43So why do you want to go against your coach's command? That's what I don't get. What I would say, look, Jude Bellingham may or may not care about what happens in terms of perception. Yeah, maybe. But it wasn't only Thomas Tuchel, it was the England fans, some of them who were looking at Bellingham and saying, do you care enough about playing for England, right? He has built up so much goodwill during this World Cup. He's basically got it all back. and some more he's got it all back he's the top man at the moment as Jill said not Harry Kane, he is the go to guy he's the saviour, he's why they're in the semi-final if Jude Billingham wants to keep that goodwill and again it goes back to I don't know if he's bothered, if he wants to keep that goodwill and run with it, it's maybe best that he lets this go now says a little bit more and continues doing what he's doing on the field because he can destroy that perception of what he's done that will become a distant memory if they go out and he keeps chipping away about the manager and vice versa.

34:46All right, one game, maybe brush it off. But if it continues and they go out, all that goodwill from what he's done, Kenny gets swept all the way out again. It'll make for a great documentary. Abe, before we let you go, what's your prediction for Wednesday? Oh, my goodness. We've already slayed the ghost of the Azteca, haven't we, by winning there. Now can we actually complete it by beating Argentina? I mean, England are going to have to improve from tonight. And I think they will. It's really, really tough to pick. But, you know, I've been riding this wave and wearing the same shirt throughout this England run.

35:28So I'm going to stick with it. It's 3-2. England in Atlanta to somehow get past Lionel Messi and company but I think it's going to be a great game terrific game indoors as well so no heat to worry about no hand of God cool down I'll tell you what though that side of the semi both teams look knackered yeah we'll talk about that later ESPN FC what do you mean later I'm gone now good ESPN FC there's a break for the next couple of days not for the show though we're back with you tomorrow 5.30 Eastern on ESPN2. Former Norwegian international Jan Ogerfjortov joins us to give us the truth as to why Erling Haaland didn't finish that game.

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38:45England fans loving every single moment of that full-time whistle as they are. Two games away, I suppose, from it coming home, if you like. Jan Argerfjortov, I know you've had a really long day. And most of us have been talking about Norway's defeat. How are you feeling, mate? Not feeling very well in terms of the result. First of all, I have to congratulate England because I'm brought up to say always that the team that win will deserve the win. But I have to say I feel a bit down because of a couple of incidents. First of all, before the 1-1 goal, hitting the spy camera. I've never seen that before.

39:23And secondly, that Haaland thing that VAR meant was a mistake done by Haaland. I mean, there are going to be a lot of not goals given if that's going to be given. But then again, we lost 2-1. Compliment to Bellingham scoring two goals. England threw. So what can you say? I saw my team. I saw Stoller-Solbach being very, very good after the game. and then I have no right to sit here and complain about everything. Jan, there were some raised eyebrows when Erling Haaland was substituted at the halftime of Extra Time. What's the official line on that? Well, first of all, it's interesting because I follow the Norwegian media.

40:04They didn't even ask the national coach about it. I didn't ask Erling about it. But I am a famous international lip reader. I could see that when Erling went off, he went over to the coach and said, I'm finished, I'm done, I'm empty, I can't do it anymore. And then Storla Sordberg can turn around and put Jürgen Stran Larsson on. It was nothing to do with the coach taking him off. I mean, he was desperate to have him in there, but he was just empty. He couldn't do it anymore. And then we can discuss, I think it would be better just having him standing there. But still, it was nothing more. He was empty.

40:42Well, there's two things astonishing here. one that Norwegian media have not asked Haaland or Staley Solbaken about this situation. Bearing in mind, he's been one of the stars of this tournament. In fact, over here in the States, they've found him. Yes. With his social media and his performances. So those things are astonishing. What I also find, and I think most of us do, find astonishing, is that we have seen one of the best players ever, Lionel Messi, go another 120 minutes tonight, could barely walk at the end. We've criticised Cristiano Ronaldo, but he's a player that you would have to drag off half dead.

41:23And I don't care if Ellen Halland's got nothing, nothing. Just stand up there and wait for a ball to come in the box. I don't, I cannot get my head around. Any player, never mind a superstar, saying to a manager, and the quarterfinal, they've made history. They're in the quarterfinal. There's a chance to go to a semifinal. I need to come off. I cannot, for one minute, get my head around that. I have to be lying on the floor, unable to get up, if it was me. Can I just get Jan's point of view? Do you mind? Sorry, Frank. Yeah, but first of all, my job as an international lip reader I shouldn't be a public because I was just reading what I read.

42:13But I'm with you. I feel that Elling should always be on. But in respect for Stoller Sobacher and Elling Haaland, I will wait till there is an official thing. I reacted because I had to translate the interview from Norwegian over to German here on Austrian TV. And I reacted straight away. Why didn't they ask him about that thing that everybody will react as Craig is saying? mind you that nine of ten that watch these games are newly big fan of Erling Haaland they would wonder why was he not on and yeah so but I will in respect for them I will wait to have the official one there could be things that we don't know about yeah absolutely so we have to wait so because his nickname is a cyborg so he's a cyborg he's going out because he's just a little bit tired that doesn't go with me having that would be the first scar, we say, on the perfect adventure that Alingelang is going through on his career.

43:12Because I cannot imagine that a guy decided to get out because he was tired. So are we going to wait and see if it's the case or not? And I really hope it's not that. It's just because he was injured. and if he wasn't injured, I just pray for him that he's going to lie to the world saying, yes, I was injured. Don't say I got tired so I got out because he's going to be, well, not murdered, but he will be criticized a lot of saying that. The reason I say that is that there could be an injury that he played on with that injury, tried another 15, 20 minutes and that's why we have to wait for that.

43:54I just saw that he said, now I can't do it anymore. and there could be injuries. They've played a lot of games, and he's an explosive guy, so we'll just have to wait for that one. Yeah, if he's been carrying something, that's fine. We'll see what comes out in the wash, but we're kind of, in some way, speculating a little bit. Jan, let's talk about the equaliser from England. Obviously, it looked like it hit the wire. FIFA then released footage of the snick-o-meter that they've been using. That proved that it didn't hit the wire. There are now reports suggesting that the radars don't go as high as the wire.

44:31So you kind of pick your side on this. Where do you sit? Where does the Norwegian media sit? Well, I have to correct you, Dan. You said that proved that statement from FIFA. That just proved that FIFA made a statement, say that they didn't touch, first of all. So let's say this is a court. So we have the following witnesses. Number one, Adrian Nuland shooting that ball out. He was running to the referee. The whole Norwegian bench, who was just sitting just around there, were running to the referee afterwards. Erling Haaland, who was standing there, was running to the referees. So it's up to the juror.

45:07Who do you believe? Do you believe this FIFA statement? Of course it hits. I mean, it's quite easy to see. We don't have the rights to show that. Neither had we here in Austria to show that. But in one of the social media, it was quite clear that the ball, the way the ball went, it went like Stoller Solbach and said, It just suddenly came down from heaven. But I don't think that the referee is a top referee. He didn't see that either. Because I think that every referee with the dignity that this referee having, he would have stopped the play straight away. But he didn't see it. I just want to remind you of the laws.

45:47Once the goal is given and VAR has reviewed it and said it's a goal, then that's it. They can't go back five minutes later and go and hit the wire. So in theory, if it was all done properly, VAR would have checked from that moment. And there would have been evidence. And clearly there wasn't. So that is why the goal... Here's the issue here. Here's the issue here. The issue is FIFA. Right? Because FIFA have shown themselves to be absolutely not the bastion of integrity and honesty and trust. Right? They weren't that before they came into this competition. and that the Balogun red card allowed to play showed that they run this like the Wild West.

46:27They do what they want. Gianni Infantino does what he wants. And for FIFA to come out and make any statement, the football world, the global soccer world does not trust them. And they lose by every time they try and brush some... What about the replays in this competition? If there's been anything that's been dubious, the replay takes so long to come in because they want so much control over what the viewer sees. It's been ridiculous because we've all worked on TV for long enough to know that replays can come. That's a very good point because we saw the video when we see the ball moving suddenly and you say, what's wrong?

47:10So you cannot say, well, I don't know, maybe the wind did something or something with God, I don't know, whatever you want to see. So we clearly saw, and we would have had a replay immediately after something would have happened. It's another situation that FIFA just want to go away. Right, yeah, just FIFA. Sorry, Anna, just want to... The rules have said that if the ball hits something, whether it could be a bird, it could be the spider cam, wire, whatever it is, play has to stop. And it's a drop ball, is that what you're saying? Yes, drop ball. And then that's it, and you play again. And clearly we can all see that even if it was minimal, clearly the wire just changed the trajectory of the ball.

47:52Absolutely, it should have stopped there. I haven't been a defender of VAR. I thought it would make football more fair. I've always done that. Then I've seen Schlager doing a tackle in a game against Austria. Austria against Argentina, 1-0 Messi. Then I see the same thing with Egypt. They go back VAR and take the free kick for Egypt. so that they don't get a 2-0. They got the 2-0 later. The problem with this thing is, though, if we discuss this, because I don't want to be a bad loser, I'm a bad witness because I'm emotionally involved in this situation because I'm Norwegian. But if we say that everybody who was close to that situation saw that the ball hit the wire.

48:35So FIFA comes with a statement saying that the censor didn't register anything. Okay. Alternative number one, they are lying. Alternative number two, this chip is not working. Why is that quite interesting? Yes, because Croatia are now sitting in the beaches in Croatia because of that chip in that offside situation. And that makes it difficult because if we now do VAR, we do chip in the ball, We do everything to make it fairer, but it makes an area that conspiracy and way to influence the game is getting bigger and bigger. And that's a development I don't like. We've been talking about this forever, and I know everyone wants to say something.

49:24But Jan, I just want to overall, when we did our post-match show after the Norway game, there was a feeling that maybe they didn't leave it all on the table. yeah but we we got the same i think i must say that i think the reaction from the norwegian players and from the norwegian coach could have been different they could have gone the other way because they were furious about this situation furious imagine you get that one one two minutes before halftime i'm not saying that england that maybe england would have won anyway it's nothing to do with that but it just you you just feel done by and and when we then have that situation with Hegem scores, and they manage, like Erling Haaland said after the game, if I make a free kick there, I have to get a free kick on every set pieces I'm involved in a football game.

50:14And that makes it a bit, yeah, a bit bitter, emotional feeling. It's very sad because, you know, VAR has been created to make decisions clear and not allowing a club or country going back to their place, thinking we've been robbed or we've been unfairly judged. And you would say that that thing with VAR will never exist, but it still exists because people don't know how to use the VAR and don't know how to make the right judgments. And that's really sad to talk about it because, of course, the spy camp had an influence. Right. And that's what it is. and change the direction of the football. We could talk about this all day, of course, but what we do know, in spite of the wire, the line-up is set for the semi-finals.

51:08We discuss it in some detail on Extra Time. Be sure to check that out over on our YouTube channel. So the first semi-final will be on Tuesday. How do the French contingent of this panel feel about Spain?

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52:43Pitch Preview is brought to you by DraftKings Sports. Right then, France against Spain in the semifinal. What's this, the ruthless world of reunions? Yeah, gentlemen, there we go. Let's hear from Lominiumal. I think since the World Cup started, everyone expected this game. They were very excited to come. We are the two best selecciones of the World Cup. But, well, without any fear. I think if someone can go with safety against France, we are us.

53:18Just a reminder, 2025, Spain won 5-4 in the Nations League. 2-1 in the Euros. No, of course, of course, Spain can beat France. But it's funny because I think that La Minna Mal is quite upset with the forward line in France that we talk about all the time, that they're very good and they're very good. And it's like he tries to justify his level. Nobody said that La Minna Mal is not one of the top players in the world. But it's like he needs to... Is it fair to say that Spain, out of all the teams that are left, have the best chance of beating France? Yeah, I think so. I think so. I think Lamine is right.

53:55This is the two best teams in the World Cup. Those two scores that we showed, the semifinal of the last Euro, the semifinal of the Nations League before that, I think psychologically they have a bit of an advantage on us. But where he's wrong is that this French team doesn't fear anybody. It doesn't fear Lamine or Spain. I think they will go there. There are things you can exploit from Spain, like the high defensive line, for example, easily, especially with the forwards that we have. So the French won't be scared of playing Spain. It would be a hell of a game, great game that everybody would want to watch that probably should be a final, but the boys won't be scared of them.

54:29It was evident against Belgium that when Spain were attacking, they left themselves a little exposed at the back, which is a dangerous game anyway, but certainly against the French front four. Luminium, I was quoted as saying, we come alive in the semifinals. I come alive in the semifinals, basically. But he hasn't played well in this tournament. and that's due to the two months he had out at the end of the season. If Spain are going to beat France and win this World Cup, they're going to have to do it with an in-form Luminiumal and that has to start in this semi-final. Last time you were on, before the semi-final, what's your prediction?

55:03What game? What game? France against Spain, what have we just been talking about? France. France? Yes. I thought you wanted both. No, no, just that one's fine. France. France? Yeah, me too. All right, OK, thank you very much. What are you going for? That's really helped me fail 30 seconds. Here are some scenics outside. Oh, is it thunder and lightning in New York? It has been quite a stormy day for both Argentina and England, but in the end they make it through the rain to the sunshine and the semi-finals to face off against each other. What a semi-final line-up we have. It's the one we all wanted really as a neutral, I suppose, and it's the one we've got.

55:43Semi-finals incoming in a couple of days.

55:51Welcome in to the latest edition of Extra Time. Somehow, we've ended up with an all-French line-up. And Jan Agafjortov, who has been awake for 26 hours now, Jan? Yeah, yeah, yeah. I've got so many letters in my diagnosis now that I can still be here. Yeah, very much so. Jan, who do you want to win the World Cup now? England. Oh, wow. Didn't even miss a beat. Why? No, because I've always, because listen, I'm born in 67. So in 74 and 78, there were no English team, but I followed English football. So then I had to support someone because Norway had to wait till I was the striker to get to the World Cup.

56:31So then in the 80s, England came in and I always supported England. I still do. Dan, what's the percentage amount of genuine belief that it's coming home? Zero. It won't happen. We've had a lovely time. You don't believe that. You don't believe that. He's always doing that. Every competition is doing that game. Reverse psychology. You know when you say that. We know you don't believe that. It's all good. We're lucky the TV wire helped us against Norway. It was all right. You know. The hand, the cable of God. Yes, that's it. That's it. Okay. Frank, during the World Cup, you won. Yes. Did you? I did.

57:12Who won? It's a bit moody tonight. He said he wanted tonight off because his wife's here. And we're like, no, it's quite a big night. There are two quarter-five. When he saw me, he said hello. He said, are you doing the show? I said, yes. I said, I could have stayed home then. I know. I don't know why you're so grumpy about it. Extra time. It's called extra time. You know, like the show is too long today. It's too long. Too many extra time, you know? You've got two days off now to spend. It doesn't matter. We are talking about the present time. We're talking about the future. OK, all right. What are you doing with your two days off?

57:40I don't know. It looks like, you know, back to the future, Dr. Emmett Brandt, you know, a little bit, Jan. Jan? Is it like the doctor? Yeah, the long hair. Dr. Emmett Brandt. No, as old as the doctor, though. Yeah, yeah, yeah, something like that. You merch and some... What's his name? Christopher? Is it Christopher someone? Christopher Lloyd. Christopher Lloyd? There we are. Right, where are we? Frank, during the World Cup, you what? Oh, yeah, that's why we got there. That's why we got there. You was. The whispering from Dan Thomas. Did you feel the refereeing decisions generally went in your team's favour?

58:17Oh, good question. Well, it did because Laurent Blanc got sent off and you got to play. Yes. That was a mistake. Zizou was sent off against Sadiou Rebérat's second game. And so, no, I think it wasn't against or for. I have no complaint about that. But it was a question for myself that I say, can you imagine you play a final of the World Cup, we didn't have the bar and the referee makes a mistake and you lose one nil and you go back home with nothing. I would have been a lot better and maybe chased the referee for the rest of his life. Wow. But the Laurent Blanc sending off in the semi-final against Croatia, his village going on the floor, he should have never been sent off.

59:05That's what I was going to say. But then in the end, what happened happened. Now, I'm just saying that we've discussed that a lot now in this World Cup because that the biggest teams, the best players get more decisions than others. I mean, that is as old as football. I mean, we've seen that before. As Manchester United had, was it 20 years without a penalty at Old Trafford? I'm probably exaggerating now, but that's how it's been all the time. And we've seen that at this World Cup as well, that the best teams get the best decisions. You know, that's nothing new. You know about the red card and the fact that I played in the final?

59:44The morning of the semifinal, my mother called me and said, are you playing today? I said, no, mom, you know, I'm not interested about playing the semifinal. I've only played finals. But I just say that like that, you know, that's insane. Because she called me the night after the game and said, why did you say that to me? Now I believe that you did it on purpose. Did she go to the final? Yes. We had all the family and my son was like four years old, no six years old and I remember that's the vision that I had with him and my father and my son saying, Dad, we are champion of the world. Oh, that's beautiful.

1:00:25That is really cool. Did you know where they were sat? Oh yeah, they were on the corner side, on the right side, on the first corner where Emmanuel petitioning, they were just above there. So cool. Yeah, and I went there after the game. When they were empty, they were still there. And I took my kids and I brought them to the dressing room. Did they get to hold the trophy? Imagine being four years old in the trophy. They spent the evening with us. Wow, that was amazing. That's very cool. Jules, where were you sat? No, I was not in the Stade de France, but the whole country was watching on television.

1:00:58We were in Paris, and then we had a big party down the street where everybody was in the street. It was incredible. That's very, very cool. Yeah, yeah, we have, with the kids, we have so much. I remember my son with the walker, the walker was too heavy for him. And he had this in his hand. And, well, that's... Yeah, that is... He'll have goosebumps. Yeah, I bet. Yeah, no, I'm getting goosebumps to listen to you talk about it, Frank. That's very nice. Jan, did you want to add something, mate? Sorry. No, no, no. I just wanted to be wondering if, after his mother spoke to him, if the mother talked to Billich afterwards to get blank sent off.

1:01:35It's funny that like 10 years ago, maybe I was working for the radio company that you broadcast, you work to with. You can mention the company. Our emcees. There we go. It's all right. And we received a billage. And I talked to him. I said, you know what? People think that I paid you in order for you to send off Laurent Blanc. And he said, I'm still waiting for the money, Frank. Come on, give me the money. But it's true, because it's so unreal. And you know what? Talk about sliding doors, mate. At the end of the game, he came and we were close to each other because they were at the last corner.

1:02:13And he came up and I didn't know because I didn't see the action with Laurent Blanc. And he came and he hugged me because he was playing for West Ham and I was playing for just between each other. And the day after in L 'Equipe, you have that picture where we hugged. Really? Yeah, that big deal. Wow, Frank. Look at that. Jules, did Geyi's performance today firmly cement him as a top three defender in the Premier League after Saliba and Gabriel? I thought, to be fair, he was doubtful with the absolute problem. Gabriel's stock's gone down, hasn't he? Yeah. Couldn't defend against Ireland. Gabriel's still there.

1:02:46Yeah, exactly. You could look at Geyi maybe in a slight lack of pace, really, for a centre-back, which I think would be fair. But I think on the ball, he's outstanding. In his jewels, he's very good. I think this World Cup has been great for him to be able to show the world that he can play at that level. Nice, the semi-final against Alvarez and Messi. And I think that even if those Argentines have been a bit underwhelming, I think we will see again if Gehi can step up and be at that level. This is a good question for you, Jan. Can someone explain what goes through a player's mind like Mbolo's to make such a foolish decision to dive, knowing full well that VAR is there?

1:03:22The more I think about it, the more puzzled I become. Why would you do that to yourself and more importantly to your team? Well, first of all, I think it's very easy to sit with an iPhone to make that question because when you're out there, when you're out there, when you're sweaty, your energy and everything, it's easy to say that was very, very stupid because one of the things that I think has been great for this World Cup is all these new rules that, first of all, VAR following up closely those kind of things. Secondly, the time that players are lying down after injuries has somehow, miraculously, has changed.

1:03:58They must be the best doctors in the world, by the way. So, Mbolo, there was a terrible situation. Thank God we had VAR. Imagine you could play on and the Argentinian player will get his second yellow card. Maybe the Argentinian teams get out. So, but I will, I take my players hat on because it's so easy to sit here and say, well, we would have done. We have all done stupid things in our career and he did a stupid thing. And Switzerland had to pay for it because they were in a good way at that moment in the game. Every decision that you make, whether it could be, it has to be taken in tens of a second.

1:04:35So it goes like that. So it's instinctive. So, strikers, Mbolo is a striker, they know how to play with the ref, they know how to fall, and they know it can be used, and most of the time, referees, they go for it. And we saw that. Mbappe, how many times he was on the floor last time, and we saw nothing. And we see that every game with every striker, and they keep on doing that, even if they know that something bad can happen to them, but it's kind of a reflex. But Frank, we saw two games today. There were a lot of diving. A lot of diving in the two games. And first of all, it was not only strikers.

1:05:16And another thing, I played six years in England. I know that only foreigners dive. It's only foreigners who dive. English people. That's for sure. Yeah, and we saw that today. Only foreigners. Only foreigners dive today. Final question. We'll keep it short for Jan. With the English winning by a wire thin margin. Very good. Very good. Well done. Well done. Jimmy Duggan. Well done, Jimmy. What will be their greatest point of interest to focus on when playing against Argentina? I mean, you know the narrative going into this game will be all about history and what happened and this kind of like...

1:05:51Beckham, obviously. Maradona. Maradona on the pitch in history. Yes, culturally the war. We have the war for Clans all about. Don't cry for me, Argentina. There we go. I don't think we've got the right to anymore. Don't say anymore. the stadium will surely be beautiful in Atlanta in terms of half will be a great venue as well no questions about weather no excuses about anything yeah yeah exactly I think Messi is again the key here and it's very much Messi against Bellingham in the sense of who will carry his team the best but it's going to be an amazing game Jan what's it 7 o 'clock your time in the morning thank you so much mate we really appreciate it but it always a pleasure to be on thank you no really good man Thank you very much.

1:06:34Thank you, Doc. Thank you, Doc. Yes. Go back to the future. Tell them about the wire. Tell them about the wire. Get rid of the Spyder Cam. I can't believe it. That is it. And give me the car back. I love that car. Spy camera. Spy camera. Yes, the NFC will return to your screens tomorrow. There are no games for the next couple of days, but we'll, of course, be there reflecting what we've seen in the tournament so far and looking ahead to those two crackers of semifinals.

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