Futbol Americas: CONCACAF Champions Cup Recap + Herc's USMNT Striker Picks + Is FIFA Scamming the Fans? + Marcel Ruiz Health Doubts + Drippin or Trippin

22:40This is news that we hate to see. The USMNT's Patrick Ajiman will officially miss the 2026 World Cup after suffering a serious Achilles tendon injury on Monday in Derby's 2-0 win over Stoke City. Now, Derby, in a statement, said, quote, At this stage, it would be wrong to put a timeline on his recovery. Ajiman, who has scored 10 goals since his arrival last summer and has helped with potential Premier League promotion, but obviously our focus is on the US Men's National Team. Herc, you even said it on Monday. This is something that really just hurts. You hate to see it for any player and so close to the World Cup.

23:19Herc Gomez:Every footballer's dream is to play in the World Cup. It's the pinnacle. It's what you dream about. It's what you want to achieve. And he was nowhere near the picture about a year ago. And he starts in the summer series gaining some momentum, playing some games, becomes of the confidants of Marisa Pochettino, makes a big move, and then starts banging in goals. And I repeat the profile. He is so different to the rest. So whether he was your cup of tea or not, that set him apart. And you said, you know what? In a pinch, in a time of need, this could be a guy that maybe Marisa Puchudino turns to.

23:51Herc Gomez:Now he won't be in the picture. But as we've learned in the past, somebody's misfortune could be somebody's gain. So let's get to that because we know that this has kind of been the constant struggle. The number nine, the depth chart that sometimes is nice and extensive. But most of the time it's been a little bit short. So we're going to put you, I don't even want to say to the test. I mean, you know this lineup pretty well here. So let's go with your striker depth. Let's start with your number four, Herc. With my number four? All right. One, two, and three. We know who the guys are. Maybe the order changes.

24:23Herc Gomez:But we know who the guys are. Four and five. One, two, and three? You want to do that? Because I think that's going to be, I don't think there's any drama here. Let's build this up. It's TV. Okay. It's Faller and Balogun. Right. Alright, Flo is an unbelievable moment. It's been quite some time that you've had a nine who's really put it together completely. Been that package. And that is Foller and Balogun. He started off very slow. It was a slow burn. His biggest moment of yet was a goal versus Panama at Copa America. And you know what? I take that back. He had a Mo, a Gio Reyna against Canada in the Nations League final.

24:58Herc Gomez:That was it. And you're like, when is he going to explode? When are we going to see that Foller and Balogun that we were promised? You're starting to see it. Champions League, he's banging in goals. He's got PSG as one of his hijos. He owns them. This is a player who's coming into his own with the national team, and he's shown a penchant for linking up with the most talented players in your squad, Christian Pulisic, Giovanni Reina. He's a clear-cut number one right now. I know you particularly liked him with Christian Pulisic, and if Pulisic is happy, US Men's National Team in general is happy.

25:29Who's your number two?

25:30Herc Gomez:Okay. Number two? So, Fallon Baggins is a player that has the ability to separate himself from the pack because of what he can do 1v1 and how he can link up play. This player has an ability to separate himself out of the pack because he's a poacher. He's a goal scorer and he finds the ball in the area in all types of way. Off of his head with the right foot, with the left foot, in movement, in transition, on set pieces. I'm going to go with Ricardo Pepe. I think Ricardo Pepe gives you a good sixth sense in and between the box. He knows how to move and you give him chances he's gonna bury it and that's the one thing I think he has over the other strikers is he doesn't require a lot of chances he's a goal scorer he's a poacher he's my number two at the moment okay okay so before we get to your three and four I think a lot of our viewers are asking or if you're listening on our screen we have players like Christian Pulisic, Weston McKinney, Timothy Weah, yeah I mean the question is do you want to know why And I will ask you.

26:29You want to know why?

26:30Herc Gomez:Okay, it's very easy. Josh Sargent is nowhere near the picture. He went to MLS. He just scored a goal, by the way, but it seems like he's on the outs. He's been a far cry from his usual self when he was banging him in the championship, a player who made an appearance or two at the World Cup. Exit was not good. Damien Downs, same thing, not really in the conversation. So you're thinking to yourself, if he's going as far as using Christian Pulisic as a false nine, well, he'd probably do the same thing with Timothy Weah, who has a penchant for playing there, or Weston McKinney, who's Paletti, his coach at Juventus, has said is the perfect striker.

27:01Herc Gomez:So that could be a possibility. But who are we kidding ourselves? Haji Wright, and I could be doing Haji Wright a disservice. He could be number two. And he is, out of this trio of forwards, the only forward with a World Cup goal. Let's not forget that. The only forward with a World Cup goal. And I mentioned Foller and Balogun and his link-up play with Christian Pulisic. This is Christian Pulisic's boy. They played U-17s together. They know each other from back in the day. Actually, Christian Pulisic is a big reason he was called in in the first place. And if memory serves me and you correctly, in one of his first games, there's a penalty kick.

27:38Herc Gomez:Christian Pulisic gives him the ball. Haji, my boy, you take it. They understand each other. And this player right here, he's got a distinct ability of playing multiple positions. And he can still be a goal scorer. So even if he's not at the nine, there are ways for him to come in and affect the game. He wasn't here last camp, though. Yeah. And this is the last camp. These players had a case to make with Marisa Pochettino. And maybe that means that Ricardo Pepe didn't fare too well because he played the least out of all the forwards, but he was there. Or maybe he's already convinced with what Ricardo Pepe can do and wants to see maybe who else is on the bubble and could pop that bubble and make the roster.

28:20Ricardo Pepe, how'd you write? I mean, we know that Marisa Pochettino maybe hasn't been able to see them as much. We know they've struggled with injury historically, especially when Mariso Portetino took over. So, the question mark remains at your number four, the drama up to this moment. Who is your number four, Herc? Alright. Christian Pulisic has

28:41Herc Gomez:proven that he is not a number nine. He's not a false nine. He doesn't feel good with his back to goal. He was beaten up against Portugal. He was very frustrated. I don't know if you remember him kicking Vitinha. That's how frustrated he was in this game. He's best when he gets to face players up. He's best when he gets to control and go out players. When he gets to link up with the player who is with his back to goal, that's not Christian Pulisic. Leave him out of that. Weston McKinney, do I really want to move Weston McKinney out of a deep line position? Because he is best when he attacks the box, the goal, from midfield.

29:12Herc Gomez:That second line arriving late. Why do you want to take away his best trait? We're not going to do that. But something about Tim Weah, something about his ability. Just be so direct. If you go back to the World Cup 2022 and think about the goal versus Wells, down the heart, down the spine in transition. He's a guy that's got a good sense for goal. He leads the line very well. And I don't know if you've ever heard of his dad, George. Look him up. Pretty good forward in his time. I think he might have learned a thing or two. That would be my flyer right now. There's no Brendan Vasquez. There's no Josh Sargent.

29:45Herc Gomez:To me, there's no Damien Downs in the picture. This is pretty much what you got. And if you want to add one of these guys, fine. If you want to add a Christian Pulisic or Wesley McKinney, fine. I don't think he's going to go that route. It would be like this. Timothy Weah would be your fourth man in, odd man out, if you'd like. I think there might be something there. I don't think we'll get to there. I don't think it should be an option. But if you ever had to go that option out of these three, I would go Iceman, Timmy Weah. All right. So not the traditional number nine then. but if he is there, then there's a spot open somewhere in the roster.

30:20Do you see somebody benefiting from that?

30:24Herc Gomez:Well, anytime you move one of these three players, you're going to get a benefit to the likes of Alejandro Sendeja, Brendan Aronson, that type of player, Malik Tillman, that type of player because they're going to have a spot guaranteed underneath. They're going to have a spot guaranteed within a wide role. We still don't even know that. Look, I know we're thinking that Pochettino's married to, you know, three center backs. He says four. I think it's three. To the wing backs. That can go out the window. We've not seen natural wingers. That can go out the window. He's shown he doesn't care what we think, what you think.

31:01Herc Gomez:He will try things. So if a natural winger or wide player or vertical player like Timothy Weah is out of that equation being put up top, it opens up an opportunity for somebody else. And Dejas is your boy. I think he would do pretty great in the World Cup, given the opportunity. Double six, eight, out wide as a nine and a half, as a ten, he's your guy. All right, here are our guys. Gavin Jules, the Gavin Jules show, available on ESPN's PodCenter and Apple Podcasts.

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32:50All right, on to some interesting news from FIFA. I don't know how else to put it, but they're under fire after World Cup ticket buyers accused the entity of misleading them with stadium maps. Now, FIFA priced their tickets into four categories, Category 1 being the most expensive. But now some of those Category 1 ticket holders were placed in Category 2 sections in some stadiums. The color coding was confusing. So a lot of fans have been left confused by the price they paid versus the seats they were allocated. So it all just kind of seems like a jumbling mess of confusion. Shaq, reading this, how surprised were you to see this?

33:32Or what did you think initially from the news? It kind of goes along with so much about this World Cup. Jumbling mess of confusion. That's as well as I've heard it ever put. I'll be honest. Listen, it's been one trial after the next with this World Cup. And for any number of reasons. the amazing thing to me is that uh fifa are now adding to those to those issues of their own doing of their own accord this was always going to be a difficult a difficult period to navigate for reasons that i don't need to get into on on this show um the one thing you hoped given the spectacle that it is that is it always is every single four years that fifa would figured this out by now, understand what it means to the fan base, and how to make this a seamless process as possible for those fans, from all four corners of the planet.

34:34Yet somehow, it's gone horribly wrong as well, in a way that I can't explain. and it just seems to be again centered around how can we make as much money as possible out of this how can we get another dollar out of the fans who have been saving for four years and planning for four years praying that their country qualifies so that they can be here and now we are left even more confused than before. Not quite sure what we're looking at. And again, with everything else that fans have to navigate, you would have thought tickets would have been the most simple and straightforward of those issues.

35:20Herc Gomez:You know why it happens, Shaq? Because people will pay for it. Yeah, but that... And I'm not saying that's correct. That's the why. It's not a good why. It's not a good why, but we've been to World Cup, Shaq. I was fortunate enough to go to a World Cup as a player and you think you understand it you don't really even realize you're there and it goes by in a blur and you have no idea what's going on and the fan fest and the actual fans and how they're enjoying and the actual feeling of being in a World Cup as a player you don't really understand it it's great being inside the stadium being on the field and hearing your national anthem and seeing the crowd that is an amazing moment but you have no idea what a World Cup is you really don't you cover it and you go as a fan when you cover it and you see the fan fest and you see the people and you see the celebration and you see how they come together and and i'm sitting there and i'm covering the united states i'm covering mexico i'm covering the world cup and i have people who take second mortgages people who take out short-term loans people who sell what they have bucket list and go without having tickets and they'll come up to you help me get tickets do you have tickets i'm like what do you mean you you came halfway around the world without a ticket and they don't care they want to see their team they want to be part of it bucket list is what you used yes absolutely and because of these people and how fifa sells and not just fifa how the game is being sold on nostalgia.

36:56Herc Gomez:They take advantage of it. I am still an LA resident. I had the ability to purchase tickets for the Olympics. I go in, I look at women's finals for soccer at the Rose Bowl. There's about a hundred thousand people, less capacity. It's 90 something thousand at the Rose Bowl. Okay. Category C tickets,$520. There is$125.06 fee, service fee, attached to my ticket. And it's not just the Olympics. It's not just the World Cup. I feel for people. You go to a concert. You go out and you're a family man. You have kids. I'm a family man. Anything you do now costs money. Anything you do now, it feels like they're trying to take advantage of you.

37:45Herc Gomez:And the one, the one game you think it wouldn't happen because it's the world's game is this. And it feels like it's happening. I'm not accusing them because I don't have all the details. But it feels like we are being taken advantage of. And that's disheartening. That's not why we got into this game. That's not why these people sell everything they have to go see their team. Yeah. I have lived and breathed this sport since I was 11. It's very, very specific. But that's the year that I really just started to get into the game. I've never been to a World Cup as a fan. I've never had the opportunity in my career to cover it.

38:27And now that it's on home soil and we live a train ride away from where the final is going to be, seemed like a brilliant opportunity. And I didn't even try to get tickets. I didn't even venture to try to figure out how to, not because I knew this was going to happen, but I guess part of me just didn't want to be disappointed with the price that I was going to pay. I didn't care what game I went to. I just wanted to say that I went to the World Cup. But I think it's also a reflection and a consequence of how the game is being sold constantly, not only from FIFA, but we're seeing it from the entire world.

39:12FIFA, I think, is the worst at doing it right now. And like you said, taking advantage of the fan. But the term milking it, I think it takes it even a step further, right? You're really just taking everything that the fan, the true fan is willing to do and you're milking it. And then a lot of people who go to the games are doing it just for the social media aspect of it. And that's something that we won't get into because it just kind of gets into muddy territory. But it truly is disappointing. The Athletic, by the way, who wrote this article, really just detailing the experience of these fans that kind of realized that the price they paid wasn't going to be worth it.

39:50But, Shaq, I think you said it perfectly because it's something that we were talking about it in this way and where we're disappointed, but we knew this was a strong possibility. We want to be proven wrong. We really, really do. But this World Cup just already has a bitter taste. It does. But here's the other aspect to this. I wonder once it starts, if we can forget about it, if we can forget about a lot of the issues and the challenges and we're more worried about them right now, feels more scary now. I'll say this. 2022, there were a lot of questions about Qatar's hosts and any number of issues, social issues around that.

40:36I thought they put on a wonderful tournament. 2018, similarly, Russia. We had a lot of questions about Russia as hosts and their records and human rights and a number of different issues. That tournament went off and we loved it. And so you just wonder if in recognizing that is why FIFA, and it's not just FIFA, by the way. Everybody's kind of jumping in on the back of this. I live in Massachusetts now. Foxborough is a host stadium. Three days ago, they put out a notice that... Transit. Transit was up. To go from this, because Foxborough is well outside the city. To go from Boston to Foxborough would have been $60 or something.

41:22$25 now. It might be. And it's going to go, during the course of the tournament, it's going to go up three-fold or something. Yes, absolutely. No, no. Again, that is not FIFA, but it just kind of leans into. Yeah, it's a supply-demand. Yeah, how everything about this tournament is progressing.

41:44Herc Gomez:I'm not defending FIFA, but we love to see FIFA as the entity, the big bad wolf. Brazil had its host of problems as well, and there were government officials taking money to use it on things that they didn't really need. You know, South Africa, the same deal. Russia, you've already mentioned. We can go here and trust me, we're all part of this circus. And it feels like the everyday individuals are one missing out. It feels like if you have means, you'll just discard it as capitalism and nothing matters. But it does leave a sour taste in your mouth when the game you grew up playing isn't the game you're seeing today.

42:26Herc Gomez:But there's a reason that these prices are going around. 1994 is still to date the most successful men's World Cup in the history of the game. Over three and a half million people turned up at the gate. They're projecting anywhere between six and seven million this go around. You mentioned Qatar and all the problems in Qatar. If we do a ranking of the best World Cups on the field, Qatar is going to be up there. It really would. It would be up there. The final is probably the best final we've ever witnessed. And I agree with you. I think in spite of Everything that we've experienced about Qatar we've experienced about some of these countries It went off at the World Cup as Best as they could have imagined I think right but it's it's and again, I'm not defending it just feels like no matter what we do It's could just be said in vain the other aspect to this said that I am not privy to this kind of these kinds of details.

43:27But if you want to draw comparisons with 1994, more and more, the lion's share of revenues comes from TV, from the broadcast rights. So while those, and they continue to get larger and larger with each cycle, exponentially larger. So my My question would be, if those TV revenues continue to grow as they are, continue to command as much a percentage of revenue as they are, isn't that need to continue to hike prices up as a result? Because the difference, well, yes, there's more money in your coffers, but as a comparison or as a percentage, it becomes lesser and lesser. And it takes away from that fan experience.

44:19So as those TV rights revenues grow, can't you keep those prices a little more reasonable? So the true fan who has traveled halfway across the world to see their team, probably thinking their team is only going to be playing three games in this tournament, can't you make that more accessible to them? Yeah. And producer Beto just told me that front office sports is reporting that the LA Fan Fest will not be free? No. So I've never experienced a Fan Fest myself. But in 2006, my wife and kids went to Germany. The Fan Fest were free. Now, Trinidad and Tobago, we were out in the group stage. As a team, we went back to Trinidad.

45:07So I did come back to Germany for the latter stage of the tournament. But at this point, everybody's gone. You know, the vast majority. And my wife speaks about that fan fest in the most glowing of terms. Now, well, certainly in 2006, 32 teams in the tournament. Fast majority of them, if they get to the group stage, that's a bonus. They're there for the experience, right? In any World Cup, you have eight, maybe ten teams who think we might get to semifinal, final, five or six, maybe we get to a final. Everybody else is just there for the experience. And my wife talks about going to the Fan Fest, walking, and people from every country have their booth set up.

45:58And it is a matter of national pride. Come taste our food. This is our music. Explain everything about their culture. This is well away from the game. People are there to represent who they are to show the best of their countries in these fanfests now it's become a money earner and again that just takes away from the essence of what the World Cup truly is final thoughts I don't think I've been

46:28Herc Gomez:to a fanfest I'm trying to think Russia I went to Champions League fan did not do the fan yes actually in Qatar why they were fanfests just didn't feel like a fanfest I don't know what your experience was like in Qatar but the areas that our studios were in or around it felt like unless it was a the game day there wasn't that environment if that makes sense yeah so i i couldn't tell you uh what it would take and what they're missing when it comes to a fan fest yeah i went to fan fest of sorts in 2014 i did an internship in buenos aires i was there for the summer argentina amazingly you know amazingly i mean about the timing not that they would make a final but played that final against germany and And I went to FanFest with my friends.

47:11And that's a core memory for me. And just kind of living the experience, obviously not being in the stadium for the final. And it wasn't in Argentina. It was very close to Argentina. But we were poor students. But still being able to live that experience is something that I just hold in my heart. And I can talk about on television today. Yeah, it's sad. But hopefully this is kind of, we're living like the transitional moment, the push and pull. and hopefully by 2030, which also seems to be pricey. The good thing it's only soccer that's expensive now. Oh, yeah, I know, right? Yeah. Not gas prices or anything, especially outside this state.

47:47We want to remind you, this is something accessible to you all. Barcelona vs. Espanol, Saturday, 12, 30 p.m. Eastern on ESPN+. Sevilla vs. Atlético de Madrid, Saturday, 3 p.m. Eastern on ESPN+. If you're here already, might as well stick around this weekend.

48:11Marcel Ruiz, speaking of the World Cup, had been ruled out of the tournament with a torn ACL, but now Ruiz is working to come back in three weeks for Toluca after his injury was upgraded to a partial torn ACL. Therefore, Ruiz was able to avoid surgery and the World Cup could still be in his future. Here's what his coach, Antonio El Turco Mohamed, had to say about his possible return. with respect to Marcel he has to do what he says to his heart so I would do the same thing if I would do a ball I would do it so we will see what he is for the destination we will see these days, these days, this week will be decisive for him and that is what is best we don't have any type of pressure this is a personal decision obviously that is his body and we're supporting them in everything.

49:05Well, the destination will be.

50:01We'll be right back. Part of the team, Marriott Bonvoy celebrates the moments that live on before and after the game. Marriott Bonvoy, where game day checks in.

50:12Obviously, very positive, the fact that it's not a fully torn ACL. It's a partial torn ACL. Like I said, no surgery. What did you think, though, Herc, about how El Turco Mohamed is talking about Marcel Ruiz's possible return here in a very short amount of time with what we expected?

50:28Herc Gomez:Well, why is Marcel Ruiz trying to come back in three weeks' time? He's trying to prove to the national team coach that he can play on a partially torn ACL and be taken to the World Cup. Any footballer's dream. That's what you dream of. From the moment you kick a ball, from the moment you find out what a World Cup is, that's what you want to do. And he just won his starting position this summer. On that Gold Cup team that won the Gold Cup for Mexico, he just earned his starting position, and he's been keeping it. And in the midst of all this uncertainty of this player doesn't show up, this player doesn't show up, we don't know who the right back is, we don't know who the goalkeeper is, we don't know about this defender, we don't know about – you knew about Marcel Ruiz.

51:07Herc Gomez:He's one of the few constants that the Mexican national team had and you thought you can count on. In comes in this ACL injury, and somewhere along the lines, it gets into his head that he can play on a partially torn ACL. He's 25. He'll be 29 at the next World Cup. If that's in his future, maybe he doesn't want to take that chance. He's doing anything and everything to make it to this World Cup. Here's the issue. Sometimes you need somebody to save yourself from you. Sometimes you need coaches, doctors, somebody within that organization to say, this isn't safe. There is a need for an ACL and what it does is it protects the knee.

51:59Herc Gomez:You can sprint forward all you want. That's not going to affect your ACL. We saw it at the Olympics with Lindsey Vonn, downhill skiing. She looked good in the training videos, obviously different age group. But the moment he needs to plant, the moment he needs to cut, the moment he's put into a high pressure situation how will that knee hold up it may not best case scenario he makes it through the world cup worst case scenario he has for the world to see a moment that you could have just made sure did not happen i'm hoping he realizes it's not worth it I'm hoping he's safe about how he goes about this next three weeks of playing.

52:45Herc Gomez:And I'm hoping it goes well for him because there's a reason that most players, if not all, don't play on partially torn ACLs. There's a reason they get those reconstructed. Chuck, thoughts? Yeah, when I read the news that he's thinking about coming back, I thought it absolutely bizarre. even for a partially torn ACL, I didn't think that was at all any kind of possibility, yet here we are now. Again, my assumption, looking in from the outside, is that it was just the smallest of tears that somehow he's able to address and play with, or is able to heal. But it made absolutely no sense to me. I'm with Herc on this.

53:32And listen, I understand the need, if not the urgency, in wanting to play in the World Cup. But in four years' time, you don't want to, in chasing that dream, you don't want to kill all your others. Yeah. And that's my concern. That's a great point, Shaq, because I know that we discussed a little earlier about the timing of it, right? He's 25 years old. We know that the World Cup is right around the corner. and this at the end, and I know we've had this discussion before about it being a personal decision, but this is a medical decision at the end, Herc?

54:09Herc Gomez:I've been exactly where he is. Made my national team debut, and then the following week, after I get back from Copa America, blew out my knee in a training session. And I didn't just think that my World Cup dream was over. This was 2007. I had three years to the World Cup. I thought my career was over. I thought I'd never be the same player. And I thought, this is it. Do you go into a dark place? If somebody would have handed me a lifeline and said, hey, there's a possibility you could play. I don't know what I would have done. I don't know what I would have done. But I know that you need good people around you.

54:48Herc Gomez:And you need always somebody to save the athlete from himself. So you don't think you should go to the World Cup? I don't think it should be his decision. I think it should be a medical opinion. If there is really a doctor out there who says, as Shaq put it, because I think it's very important, you play, you're not going to re-injure it. You're not going to make it worse. And the possibility of making it worse could include you are altered for the rest of your career. He's 25 years old. It's a long, long career ahead of himself. If that's a guarantee from a medical professional, then it's something that I maybe get behind.

55:31But I don't know which one's going to recommend that. Yeah. At 25 years old to have to make this decision when a few weeks ago things were looking very different. For Marcel Ruiz, I'm sure the same thoughts are surrounding even the Mexican national team and the possibility of not having him. Before it was they're not going to have him at all. Now it's maybe they'll have them back. And now it's, is it even a good decision to give him minutes in the World Cup to take him? If he's going to want to play the full 90, et cetera, et cetera. But at the end, we are not psychologists. We pretend to be, or at least I pretend to be sometimes.

56:10So hopefully at the end, it would be the best decision for a very young 25-year-old Marcel Ruiz with a long career ahead of him. But let's take it into Drippin' or Trippin'. I'm very interested in y 'all's reaction to this. Nike's nod to Jorge Campos. You know the legendary jerseys here from the goalie. The colors were included.

56:37Herc Gomez:See, there you go. If you can walk around with the soles always showing, then yeah. Yes, absolutely. Drippin'. But since you can't walk around with the soles always showing, that's a better one. That is a better one. Those are so hot. That's a better one? Yes. Yes, that's a better one. No, I wear the first ones. Those are fly, Shaq. No, no, no. No, no, Shaq. No, no. Yes, they are. Which ones do you see and you're like, Jorge Campos? The first ones or the second ones? Second ones. Of course. Second ones. That's why I said that if you could just walk around with a shoal sewing, sure. Yeah. But you can't.

57:11Herc Gomez:No, I'd go with the second one. Or with the... No, the Air Max 95s. You would wear the first ones, Shaq. I'd wear, yeah, I'd wear the first one. Yeah, those are the cool on you. Those are the dunk clothes. Those look like, you know, somebody let a kid loose with on their old trainers. There was all these jerseys, though. Yeah, but that, it don't, it just looks thrown together. This is such an opportunity, Miss. Production should have had Shaq in one of the Jorge Campos uniforms. Oh, I had some doozies back in my day. Don't worry about that. I had some doozies. I need to see those. I had some doozies.

57:48I would have loved it. The first ones, I'm having those all day. I don't know if I wear them myself, but I'm having those. These are dripping. The Air Max, chef's kiss. Chef's kiss on those. All right. Some more World Cup news surrounding. This is really great because Katia Itzel Garcia and Cesar Arturo Ramos, they were both named, they were both selected to participate and to officiate in the World Cup. But Garcia is not only among six women selected to officiate the World Cup. She will officially become the first Mexican woman to be a center referee in a World Cup. It's history. We absolutely love to see Cesar Arturo Ramos.

58:30We know is already a veteran in this. All right. We do want to remind you we have a new hour on Football W every Tuesday now at 1 p.m. Eastern, 10 a.m. Pacific on ESPN. Plus, we will see you there. But for now, we say our goodbyes. I would pay a lot of money to see Shaq wear the Jorge Campos Air Max is with a Jorge Campos jersey. You would, though. You would. For us, you would. I'll charge a lot of money to wear it. Okay, who's taking advantage of who now? We will be back on Monday. Thanks for hanging out.

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