In short
NWSL roundup (weekend matches, playoff/Shield implications), player-of-the-week picks, and major news items including Washington Spirit struggles, Orlando Pride contract extension news, Houston Dash coaching/technical director firings, and San Diego Wave vs NC Courage plus other match highlights.
Guests
Kay Murray (host), Jeff Kasuf (analyst/writer), Ali Krieger (former player/analyst).
Guest backgrounds
Kasuf is an ESPN.com writer who discusses league mechanisms like the “high-impact player” rule; Krieger is a former NWSL star and provides tactical/leadership analysis from a player perspective.
Key claims
Gotham’s Jadon Shaw’s form and Gotham’s adaptation after Louisville’s early press drove a 2-1 win; Washington’s late defensive collapse and roster turnover (Croy Bethune, Rebecca Bonal, Deb injury) raise questions about direction; Ashley Sanchez’s confidence/wing role is fueling NC’s scoring; Orlando’s Barbara Banda is worth the “high-impact player” spend and needs support around her.
Notable examples
Shaw goals/assists; Spirit’s overturned penalty and late goals by Boston (Amanda Gutierrez); San Diego’s 2-1 win over NC with Sanchez’s 19th goal; Banda’s contract extension after scoring vs Kansas City; Houston’s 1-0 loss to Utah and coach/TD firings; Player picks: Vanessa DiBernardo, Lindsay H[e]aps, Amanda Gutierrez.
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Chapters
Tap a time to open that second in VONWSL Weekend Roundup
0:03 to 0:39
Discussion of NWSL matches and player performances over the weekend.
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NWSL Weekend Roundup
1:00 to 14:03
Discussion of NWSL matches and player performances over the weekend.
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Analyzing the Washington Spirit's Inconsistencies
14:03 to 16:30
Discussion about the Washington Spirit's recent performance and identity issues.
“and were very effective in a positive way.”
San Diego Wave vs NC Courage Highlights
16:30 to 17:57
A recap of the San Diego Wave's match against NC Courage, including key plays and goals.
“Okay, let's get you some more action, shall we?”
Upcoming Challenges for NWSL Teams
17:57 to 19:10
Evaluation of the upcoming fixtures and their implications for playoff positions.
“This is the remaining regular season matches for both sides.”
Ashley Sanchez's Impactful Season
19:10 to 21:10
Discussion on Ashley Sanchez's performance and her contributions to North Carolina.
“Gotham up next is going to be a huge test.”
Ashley Sanchez's Impactful Season
22:18 to 23:22
Discussion on Ashley Sanchez's performance and her contributions to North Carolina.
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Barbara Banda's Contract Extension
24:27 to 28:00
A discussion on Barbara Banda's recent contract extension and her performance.
“Okay, we've got so much to get through today, so let's get you some more highlights because next up, Barbara Van Der Schoen as her Orlando Pride took on Casey Curran's 29th minute.”
Barbara Banda's Impact on Orlando Pride
28:00 to 31:08
Explore the significance of Barbara Banda's re-signing with Orlando and her contributions to the team.
“She referenced that game that we just watched and the goals that Panda scored against Kansas City.”
Houston Dash's Coaching Changes
31:08 to 35:20
Discuss the unexpected firing of the Houston Dash head coach and technical director amidst a struggling season.
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Match Highlights: NWSL Roundup
35:20 to 39:26
Review thrilling game highlights from the NWSL, showcasing key moments and performances.
“Portland Thorns taking on Chicago Stars.”
Player of the Week Picks
40:43 to 42:00
Hear the selections for Player of the Week, highlighting their contributions and performances.
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NWSL Player Highlights and Picks
42:00 to 45:20
Discussion on standout players in the NWSL and their recent performances.
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Catarina Macario's Injury Update
45:20 to 49:50
Analysis of Catarina Macario's season-ending injury and its implications.
“Chicago stars taking on Washington Spirit.”
US Under-20s World Cup Performance
49:50 to 52:25
Recap of the US Under-20 team's performance against New Zealand.
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Trinity Rodman and Ben Shelton's Support
54:27 to 55:40
Discussion on the support between Trinity Rodman and her partner Ben Shelton.
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Trinity Rodman and Ben Shelton's Support
56:05 to 56:18
Discussion on the support between Trinity Rodman and her partner Ben Shelton.
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Transcript
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0:39Hello and welcome into the latest edition of Football W. Kay Murray invited back here, delighted to be alongside Jeff Kasuf and Ali Krieger. And before we do get into things, I have to tell you, there probably won't be any typos in today's show. Because Eagle Eye over here has been keeping us all honest. It's like a day of defending. Nothing gets past this woman, okay? I was like, uh, in line, this line, and then B12. Well, yeah, in the rundown, I made sure everything was ready to go. I love it. That's why she's a pro. Okay, let's get started then with NWSL action for you and what we've seen over the weekend and all the talking points that come with it.
1:14We'll start with Racing Louisville against Gotham FC, starting with the team at the top. And they started out on top as well. We're in the eighth minute. Jadon Shaw played it to Guru Raiton, and she fires it into the net. Yeah, she's been having an incredible season since joining Gotham and has been one of the highlights that the team has needed, especially in this moment after a three-game winless streak and Gotham was able to get on the board early. However, early on, there would be the leveler in the 17th minute, Kayla Fisher. Rare moment for Gotham here and Ann Kittrenberger to not be, to have a bit of uncertainty, obviously a little bit of a stumble there, but a big equalizer for Louisville in this one early.
1:53We take it to the 46th minute and the first half got underway early for Gotham. They struck again early in the second half. Sam Kerr laying it off to Shaw. She's gonna fire it in. Such good combination play and Jaden Shaw does what she does best. Gets in those pockets and was able to hit it far low and right to the corner. Great angle right there too. The ball and the Dudley. I mean talk about quick straight from the kickoff. Yeah it's great build-up play and the combination play that Gotham does so well and Gotham would hold on and it would be a 2-1 win for them and that goal from Jadon Shaw the winning goal for them and it's another game of multiple goal contributions from Shaw we take a look at when that's happened goal and an assist against Louisville here against Seattle in July 2026 two assists there and then back in May 2024 against Utah a goal and an assist.
2:54So let's hear from Jaden Shaw speaking after the game. Today makes it one year since you officially joined Gotham and you marked that occasion with a goal and an assist. When you look back at this past year, how much do you feel you've grown as a player and how special was it to celebrate that growth with a performance like this? Yeah, I mean, I think it was such a blessing, the opportunity to come to Gotham. It's honestly changed my life and my career, of course. yeah I think it's it's been so fun being on this team and being a part of this club that strives for such high standards on and off the pitch and I think I've really grown as a human and as a player and met so many amazing people and players and yeah I think like I said it's a blessing to be here and to be a part of this club and yeah I mean it being one year I was like I knew it was like coming up soon.
3:48I didn't remember the exact date, but again, like I think looking back on the investment that, um, obviously Gotham as a club made for me, um, at a time that I didn't think, um, I deserved it at that time. Like, obviously like I wasn't playing as well as I could have been. So yeah, I think I am so grateful for again, them taking a chance on me and for me to be here in front of you all today. Um, and yeah, just wearing this badge is an honor And like even some of like Soli and Mary have just said like how much I've grown since last year. And I think that that's obviously a credit to this club and the players and the coaches around us.
4:26So, yeah, it's been great. That's really nice to hear. And before we get into the game, which of course we're going to do, I just want to hear what you thought of what she had to say there and the growth that she's found at Gotham. Yeah, and it, you know, it really matters when a player is happy and they're having fun and they're playing more free. I don't necessarily think that maybe in North Carolina was the best fit for her, but you don't find that out until you're actually physically there and, you know, putting all the work in. So, like she said, Gotham, you know, obviously knew the quality that she brings and the caliber of player that she is, that they knew that she would fit right into, you know, their style and their structure.
5:04and I mean I can also say similarly that I had one of the best years of my career and the end of my career when I was 39 playing in my last season because of the people that I was surrounded by because of the coaching staff who really just kind of give you that spark give you that confidence and she had mentioned that so she's she's getting that and receiving that from not only your teammates but possibly and I know for sure the coaching staff that's just are instilling that confidence in her and that's why I think we're seeing her so successful so it's wonderful to hear that she's in a really good environment because she deserves it and she's one of the best players best young players that we have and the winning goal and right at this time Gotham needed it because it had been a little bit of a not a struggle but there'd been a bit of a bumpy ride in the games before it Jeff yeah an intentional winning goal too this time unlike the cross shot the other week.
5:58But yeah, I mean, I think even within the game, right, that, you know, Louisville came out with, we've talked about Louisville and their inconsistency. They showed us some of that sort of signature press early in this game. They looked like that they might be able to give Gotham some trouble. And I think Gotham struggled at times to play out of the back in this one early, found their feeding, found their rhythm, found their footing, found their rhythm. And then obviously the set piece goal, they conceded, but then they found those wide channels with Louisville playing in that sort of 3-5-2 that they've settled into at times.
6:27And I think we saw it on the goal, on the winning goal with Dudley in those opening seconds of the second half. Tons of space on that right side. And I think that's where Gotham, again, we've talked about them finding ways, the adaptation mid-game, I think showed here against Louisville. What stood out to you, Ellie? Yeah, I think just that mentality to not allow those three games to really affect them. Because when you're in a position where you're leading on the table, it's really difficult to stay there so you can't have you can't allow yourself to have these dips in play you know just to cause the rest of the season to get into that slump so I think the reaction that they've had that was that was great after the three-game winless streak like we said to not allow that dip to become something more than what it really is and I think going on the road especially to Louisville in a city there and and with that team that's you know still trying to find their identity and they're unpredictable because you're not really sure how they are going to come out and perform.
7:24I think that was really key for Gotham to do. And now they're sitting a few points ahead of the rest of the table and back to, you know, where they were three games ago. Is this them over the hump then with that victory? Yeah, I think they have been. I mean, I think, yeah, they had that stretch, as Ali said, with a couple of games here. But, you know, I mean, league leaders obviously chasing down the shield. Everybody keeps stumbling in behind them. So I think that they've managed to maintain some of that distance. And, you know, I think easily the most talented team in the league on depth, on quality, straight down the roster when you look at it.
7:57So, yeah, I think this is still the team to be in this league right now. Yeah, well, that's the other point. You've all got to do your job behind them if you're going to be catching them. And that brings us to the next game now as we bring you Washington Spirit against Boston Legacy. Ah yes, the regular season running has been thrown into a bit of an interesting situation. Isata Traore denied here, she really stood out in this game. Traore's been having a good season as well, I think she's been one of Boston's better players. And then Melissa Bethi's going to go down in the box, the referee gives the penalty, and after a VAR review the decision would be overturned.
8:34Yeah, this was definitely overturned by the second look at this. You know, unfortunate for Washington because they could have used this, especially at the beginning of the match. Taking it to the 81st minute, Traore in off the post there. Yeah, this is the start of a calamity of errors defensively for Washington. And I think this started with individual problems as well. Into the 89th, Trinity Rodman gets in the box, but her shot will be saved by Casey Murphy. Yeah, Casey Murphy does a great job here to keep the ball out of the back of the net. and she gets into the box but obviously a great save.
9:10Here comes the super sub Amanda Gutierrez winning it back there near the halfway line spotting the keeper off a line making it count. Yeah a missed touch from Tara Rudd and Amanda Gutierrez I mean this is heads up McKeever's right out of her goal no chance here from her this far out of net heads up play from Gutierrez. And less than two minutes later. The celebration too. There would be another chance to celebrate. A little cross coming in here. An easier in front of a goal. I want to highlight this cross from Lily Real. I think that was unbelievable. And the reason why she just served this on a silver platter.
9:47And why Amanda was able to score the second goal. But well done for Boston. Get three points on the road. And rowdy-outy. Pretty incredible. Absolutely. So an unexpected loss there for Spirit. Does nothing to help them push to catch Gotham. And another eagle eye in the studio is Jeff Kasup. If you notice the 0.29 expected goals for Washington Spirit there. Let's get the Spirit coach Adrian Gonzalez speaking about the team's struggles after the game. I know this team has gone through struggles before, but what do you think has made it difficult for the team to get back to its scoring form for a lengthy stretch here this season?
10:27Well, I think it's a matter of, you know, to insist on the things that we've been doing good in the past. We've identified that pretty good and especially how we are scoring. And with the profiles that we have, I think that's important to keep insisting on that. We've been having a lot of 2v1s on the wide channels, 1v1s, early crosses, cutback situations. And sometimes those balls, when we find those pockets and playing through with wingers, so it's a matter of, I think, insisting on that. Because right now, we are not in a momentum where you need to change the way that you create chances or you need to start implementing new things.
11:12Emotionally, you need to have that patience and being humble too and knowing that you are not going to finish a game in the first 15, 20 minutes. And again, I've said that many times before, it doesn't matter who you are playing or how they are on the table. If you are away at home, so you can draw points if you are not that clean. What do you think has been keying the struggles for the first half of games? Well, obviously the stars are more difficult because everyone starts with the same energy. And then right now we are in a moment in the season that everyone is trying to push. Most of the games are going to be decided at the end.
11:56And we need to accept that. I wish we could win the game in 45 minutes, but this is not a reality. I think in this league right now, everyone is going to be fighting and games are going to be tied. Jeff, did you expect it? The result? No. No, I mean, we've seen some struggles from Washington. You know, I think the collapse at the end there, especially late in the game, in stoppage time to give up those extra goals. I mean, obviously they're pushing for an equalizer at that point, but against a team that has shown some fight, has been a bit of a Cinderella upset type of situation that's obviously out of playoff contention.
12:34But, you know, a Spirit team trying to chase down a shield after finishing second two straight years, that's trying to round into form after finishing runners-up two straight years. and there's a little bit of deja vu starting to come in here. And I think if you're them, I mean, I know we talk about these things that maybe people in locker rooms, you could tell me, try not to think about or tell us they don't think about. But, you know, I think when you look at the spirit coming in October, November, where they've had, they haven't been able to finish the job for two straight years, this starts to get a little concerning, especially with the defensive errors that we've seen.
13:05Yeah, I agree. Does it get in your head? Yeah, a little bit, because I think the largest story is the direction of Washington's spirit. You have Croy Bethune who leaves for Kansas City. You have Rebecca Bonal who then leaves for Manchester United. You have Deb is out for injury, you know, the rest of the season. So, you know, what is the direction and where is the Washington Spirit headed? Especially building a team around Trinity Robin, who you've signed on until 2029. And building, she can't do it all. You know, she can't do all the attacking and take that on every single moment and produce every single opportunity.
13:43She does need players surrounding her to help her shine as well. So I'm just thinking the bigger story is the direction of where they're headed and why they've made those choices to either allow players to go, some of the best players that they've had, who have impacted immediately in their squad and played week in and week out and were very effective in a positive way. So it's, yeah, my question is, you know, what direction are they actually taking this, especially just with the players that have gone in and out. And I think it's, you know, I don't think it's concerning. The Washington spirit, they've been at the top of the table, you know, most of the league.
14:24But, yeah, what direction are they going in now? And it feels like it's a little bit of inconsistency and identity. Do you share those questions, Jeff? Yeah, I think what you're saying, too, it speaks to those standards, right, that this is a team that we expect to be a championship team. It's a team that we expect to be among or trying to be one of the world's best from an owner who wants to be that in multiple places. So, you know, when you talk about exactly what you said, I mean, it is, you know, we're talking about them in this way and also they're second in the table. Right. But it is the direction, as you said, lately, I would say in the past few games, the run of form.
14:58And then the expectation that, you know, like I said, they've come up short so many times recently in terms of a trophy on either side, shield or championship that they've got to find a way to finish the job and you start to see okay what is shield is slipping away do you start focusing on getting healthy get ready for November but you know they have to turn around form soon. Do you use it then do you use this as like a driving force or do you lose it because this is going to get into your head and you're going to lose that momentum? No I mean this is a business this is our job right this is this is you know why you sign up to play this sport.
15:32And this is, you know, all the pressure that comes along with it. But that's also fun for players to even, you know, maybe have a doubt from anyone that they won't be able to accomplish that. And they'll use that as fire, right, to ignite. This is the inside. Ignite the team, yeah. So I say they bring it on, right? They know what they need to do in order to play better, to score goals, to produce, to defend well. All those details just have to be applied at the same time. And players know what's expected of them, and they know how good they have to be in order to win the league. And I think they have the capability to do that.
16:15But they need everyone to be bought in and really show up on the day. And we've talked about them being tired on this show, and I think we're seeing some of that again. The schedule, personal and team schedules. I mean, I think it's just been a tiring stretch for them, playing more games than other teams. Okay, let's get you some more action, shall we? We've got San Diego Wave taking on. NC Courage next up for you. Seen plenty of goals across the weekend. To the Snapdragon Stadium we go, oh, a little bit of entertainment to kick things off here. We're all about that. All right. Yeah, we will be talking about Sanchez.
16:48Don't worry. But let's start in the 23rd minute here. Ball into the box. Gia Carly curling it in. Yeah, beautiful goal. first time and she has the quality to do this just wraps it around the goalkeeper's side then in beautiful first goal to the 30th minute we go Ashley Sanchez would have a shot safety but then it's spilled by Panos who comes up with a double save I mean the second save the reaction obviously right place but I mean to get back up say oh in the face as well do what you need to do big moment 72nd minute, Melanie Barsenas cutting in, curling it into the bottom corner, 2-0. Yeah, she's had a few beautiful goals just like this this season and she's in the right place, has that confidence to put the ball in the back of the net and then here almost the same exact goal that Ashley Sanchez, what is this, 19?
17:4119 now. 19 now. One off the record. Well done by North Carolina to try to get back into this game. Okay. Really consolation in the end there. And it would end 2-1 to San Diego Wave. This is the remaining regular season matches for both sides. When you're looking at a list like that Ali, what stands out to you for either side here that you think interesting? Yeah, this is going to be a tough end of the season, obviously for both teams. Even now seeing that San Diego Wave have to play against a Boston and a Bay FC could cause problems and Louisville is a bit unpredictable as well but for North Carolina Courage to play at home versus Gotham then go to Utah and Seattle on a away trip and then come back home to play against one of the best teams in the top four of the league that's going to be difficult and then Portland and Denver they know their identity they know that they have the mentality to complete games and to win and they're itching to you know stay in the playoff push especially Denver.
18:46They could surprise you like they did against Gotham winning 3-0. So they have the quality. Every single game in this league is really important. And if you want to be in the top eight, you have to get points. And so it's going to be demanding for both teams, I think. Who do you think it's the most demanding for looking at those lists there, Jeff? I think North Carolina. You look at those fixtures, yeah. I mean, Portland on there, Denver, as you said. Gotham up next is going to be a huge test. They've got to play San Diego again. And a team that I would say to the courage, relatively speaking and comparatively to San Diego as well, that hasn't been in this picture recently or at least fighting in this way that, you know, San Diego is a team that was in the playoffs last year, pushed for this.
19:28North Carolina is a team that's been restructured in the offseason, including the head coach, McLind. Not that he's inexperienced internationally, but first time sort of in the grind of this NWSL in the in the business end of the season here. and I think that's, you know, you have to go through it before you can really know what it feels like and I think this is a newer North Carolina, younger North Carolina group. Okay, a lot of love for Ashley Sanchez on last week's show. That's something that stood out. We're back there again and she's making us have to talk about her basically. So let's get to Ashley Sanchez.
20:01Here we go. Most regular season goals. This is what we're seeing in a single NWSL season. This is the list as it stands right now. You guys said it during the highlight 19 one behind Chawinga. I mean these are some special numbers Ali. Yes, she's just having an extraordinary season. This has been unbelievable for her and this is the Ashley Sanchez that we wanted to see for a long time. Coming back even in a loss she finds another goal and moves within you know one of the best league records. So she has doubled her previous career total in one season and she is leading North Carolina from the front.
20:38She is combining with EJ as well, who's been providing her great service. But just the mentality and the confidence that she has this year has just been, I think, unmatched from other seasons that we've seen her. And I think she's just taken that on. She's getting herself in positions to get on the ball, to want the ball, to lead the team and put the team on her shoulders. And that's been really impressive. And I think kind of stepping into this type of leadership position, that's been something I haven't seen in previous seasons. Has it been a positive change, a positive development as a player for her that you've witnessed too, Jeff?
21:14For sure, yeah. The move to the wing, excuse me, as we talked about, to get her wide, to get her 1v1. I think she's had support behind her too. I mean, this midfield, I talked about them being young. Erica Meg Parkinson, Riley Jackson, two young players. I mean, Parkinson, a teenager still, withheld from the U-20 World Cup from England because they needed her. and is a player who gives them some solid structure up the spine of their team that allows a player like Sanchez to, she's not known for defending, I think that's still a piece of her game she's probably working on, allows her some freedom up there to not have to worry about necessarily what's happening behind her.
21:51So I think North Carolina has that behind her. Obviously, they need to make sure they're picking up results. It's a consolation goal, as you said, Kay, right? I mean, it's the most precise and spectacular one you maybe could ask for. But, you know, it is a result that North Carolina drops points on the road, again, in a race that is extremely tight from 1 to 8 here. If you've shopped online, chances are you've bought from a business powered by Shopify. You know that purple ShopPay button you see at checkout? The one that makes buying so incredibly easy? That's Shopify. And there's a reason so many businesses sell with it.
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25:13Yeah, I for sure thought this was going in the back of the net. But, I mean, she had all the time and space in the world. But the way she hits this, just to keep it low, very impressive. Unfortunately, couldn't get in the back of the net. But well done. 50th minute. Bander into the box. Strikes again. This was 11 ,500 people going silent in Kansas City. 28-game unbeaten streak at home on the line. And it looked like it was about to end at this point. And yet, they rallied back. Current on the break here. Ball gets played to 10 with Chawinga. Dribbles past the defender. And scores, 2-1, they always say, 2-0 is the most difficult lead to keep.
25:48Especially with Schoenge on the field, you never know what could happen. Beautiful goal to get back in the game. And then 56-minute, getting right back in it. 1-1 here, Elizabeth Ball getting the ball in the net. Right place, right time. And Kansas City, always on the wrong end of set pieces, recycled here obviously, but something bounces their way on a set piece. I think she made up for that Barbara Bander spin to get one back. A little spoiler alert, last time I was on the show, Barbara Bander was my player of the week. Not this week, although it was hard not to pick her because look at the stats for this season as well.
26:22Just brilliant stuff from Barbara Bander so far. So let's talk more about Barbara, talking about the contract extension, which we'll get into in a minute, but first let's hear from the player himself.
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26:36Obviously yesterday you signed a long-term contract. What does it mean to you to be here now for years to go? Wow, amazing. I'm here to stay, you know. I love being in Orlando. So I think for me I decided and looking at the environment where I am, I'm so happy. And being around everyone here, the staff, the teammates, all the management, I think I'm happy looking at Orlando. It's my second home. What were your teammates' reactions? when they heard about you signing your contract extension to one state in Orlando? Wow, it has been amazing in the local room there because it's always when we are doing practice, then we come back, we're on our phones, then we see the news, then everybody's excited.
27:15So I'm happy for that. Great stuff all around. Now, Jeff, you've been writing about this extension on the website today. You can check that out over on ESPN.com. So tell us a bit more about this contract extension and remind us what a high-impact player deal is. That's a lot to unpack. Well, in simple terms, teams can spend up to a million dollars over the salary cap on certain players, have to meet a certain criteria. Three-time Ballon d 'Or nominee will qualify for that. Only about a half a dozen or so that we know of in the league so far. Most teams still haven't used that high-impact player mechanism.
27:49So immediately puts them into, typically anyway, the million-dollar-plus, which is new territory really for the league. For sure, first seven-figure salary annually in Orlando Pride history. and I spoke with GM Caitlin Carducci. She said worth every penny. She referenced that game that we just watched and the goals that Panda scored against Kansas City. I mean, a player, she's only three off the golden boot race we were just talking about in fewer games played. So I think a player who changes this game for a land on the key, and I think part of this re-signing for the pride and making sure, obviously, they spoke with her about their plans to keep her, is she needs support around her.
28:24She scored literally over half their goals this year. She just hasn't had support around her. So they need to get into the winter transfer window, maybe before the roster freeze in October, find some forward support, find some midfield support around her. But high impact player. I mean, she's one of the players that defines that for this league and this rule. Yeah, I think exactly right, Jeff. I mean, they need to find other players to help support her because Orlando is a different team with Barbara Vanda. And they're a very different team without Barbara Vanda on the field. But this is exactly what the high impact player mechanism does.
28:57and I think you know perfect for Orlando like she said it's her second home you could tell she's having so much fun there she's changed the league for the better she's changed Orlando pride for the better and really you know has has risen the standard to such a high level not only just to compete within the NWSL but just compete at the club level there and and really bring people to watch them play so congrats to her I'm so happy she's here to stay because I love watching her play I love the impact that she has and the goals that she's scoring and you're absolutely right she's played less amount of games that she's only three goals behind Ashley Sanchez yeah saw that lovely quote as well that you were mentioning from Carducci worth every penny but Ali still keeping hold here Orlando of one of the NWSL's best players for the long term like this feels like the perfect fit she seems so happy they seem so happy what do you think like what why is she so happy there you know this place well yeah it might be the weather you know it might be Well, that definitely helps.
29:57The sunshine was amazing every single day, just the quality of life. I also think the way that the club treats the players, they create an environment that makes players happy. They have all the resources and accommodations that they need in order to be successful. I saw that firsthand, and that experience was enough to keep some of the best players in the world, if not the best at the time. We didn't get the best results, obviously. And, you know, we struggled here and there. But at least we knew we were taken care of and we were supported and we were valued. And I think when you feel that, that definitely then is applied to the game and the football field.
30:35So congrats to them and for making her feel at home because she's a world-class player and she is a diamond for our league and a player that a lot of us supporters and fans want to watch for years to come. Anything to add? Well, to your point, Kay, I mean, they got this deal done a year before free agency was going to hit. And when teams around the world were inquiring about her, Carducci told me they had world record offers for transfers. So and I think that's very believable in this case. We hear it sometimes, but I mean, Barbara Banda. So they're going to have Banda for the long term. And, you know, obviously Zambia missing out on the World Cup.
31:13It is as unfortunate as that is. It's it helps Orlando and keeping her fresh, keeping her around for next year. Okay, there's a little bit of a news story with every result we've got for you today. So let's keep going because we've got more highlights for you and more news coming. This time it's Houston Dash taking on Utah Royals. Rubano plays it through to Tanaka here. And that's going to be 1-0 to Utah Royals. Yeah, Mina Tanaka scored in the 69th minute. They didn't really register a shot on target and suffered that fourth consecutive defeat. But this goal was probably one of my favorites of the season so far.
31:51It gets through. I mean, this is why you have to place that service with pace and across the back line because Tanaka was able to get on the end of it. Incredible. However, here we go. After the game, we bring you this. Angela Mangano, president of women's soccer, on the firing of Fabrizio Trau saying, Our conviction in this group has not wavered. We believe in the quality of this team and its ability to succeed both this season and beyond. We also have a responsibility to evaluate our trajectory and determine what is needed to achieve the ambitions we have for this team. Ultimately, this decision reflects our commitment to those ambitions and our determination to continue moving the club forward.
32:31We want to thank Fabrice and Twila for their commitment to the organisation and the work they have done on behalf of the organisation. So this is the head coach, Fabrice Gautreau, and technical director, Twila Kilgore. Kilgore. Yeah. Gone. I mean, I was surprised. I know the run of form hasn't been good. I think Gatrall has commanded respect and is building something. It's a young group. You look at Cat Raiders having a breakout season. Linda Olmark, she's off at the U-20 World Cup. This is a group that was always a year or two out. Yes, they've struggled. They've been inconsistent this year. But it felt like they were finally building something.
33:12I think that's where I have the issue here is that for so long, the Houston Dash have been stop, start. They get every decision wrong. This felt like the right hire finally to create some stability. And then you add to it that Twyla Kilgore just got there in February. So we're talking eight, nine months as a technical director. And that position is gone now. So that's where I have the issue with the stability. They've struggled so much with that piece. It's affected their player recruitment. and so they move on now because his contract was ending they decided okay we're not going to renew and why wait another few months or six games let's get this process started but the actual act of moving on maybe you could argue and I think that the Houston Dash are arguing it signals a new ambition but you know they're starting here right they need to get here before we start talking ambition of other things and I thought that they had that base with Fabrice Cattrall that was built with these young players?
34:09Yeah, when they fire the head coach and the technical director at the same time in those two positions, that tells me the club believes that the problem is more than just the results. And I do believe that it's structural. And I think that I don't necessarily think they gave them enough time. This is a young Houston team. They have a lot of quality. They have a lot of talent. And they would show good results here and there throughout the season. It wasn't as consistent, but it's been better and probably the best Houston I've seen in years. And I do think that there's a bigger issue behind this because you see the head coach in Gutrao.
34:47He was in Chicago as an assistant and then North Carolina as an assistant. He has the knowledge. He has the quality. He does demand a lot. And he has just the ability to be a really good head coach in this league. And so it was surprising to me as well that they both got let go at the same time. That shows a bigger issue than just the results. Yeah, drama everywhere. In fact, we're going to give you a run of games now with no drama after them. There probably are storylines in there, and these guys will know if they are. But let's get your cast off on everything else that we saw. Portland Thorns taking on Chicago Stars.
35:2222nd minutes where we're picking up the action. Jesse Fleming crossing it in. It's an own goal. Yeah, Chicago own goal. I mean, it's been a tough season for Chicago. Unlucky, unfortunate one there. 92nd minute off a corner kick. Taylor Wood heading it in. 1-1. Yes, well done to get back into the game. Good header just to get up. I mean, the defending, unfortunately, just... Celebrated that. Couldn't get it out. Yeah, exactly. I think they needed that for their confidence. Next up, Seattle Reign taking on Bay FC. I'm going to say a penalty kick in a minute. Yeah, one of my former teammates, Jenna Naiswonger there.
36:04Yeah, Montesir had her number, I think, in this game. I mean, this play and a few others. Yeah, it might have been a reaction tackle there, that one. Kind of got upset. She got beat and then reacted. Sophia Huerta steps up to take the penalty. Scores. Huerta, I mean, leader clutch for this team. They keep grinding it out, this Seattle team. You were talking about them the other week. Credit to Ali. I wasn't a believer. And also Huerta just stepping into that leadership role. captain since Fishlock has been injured and well done for Brittany Ratcliffe to get in here as well just to solidify this win.
36:36You've got to listen Jeff, you've got to take notes.
36:41So there we have it, 2-0, it finished in this game and then let's get to Angel City hosting Denver Summit straight to the action because there's lots of goals to get you through here. First of them coming in the 44th minute as Denver would try to clear their lines. Sarah Gordon intercepts in midfield. Goal in off the valley here. My Arnus has been very good when healthy for Angel City. I did think I would have loved to have a real camera angle on this that it might have been offside, but Angel City has been on the wrong end of those calls, so we'll give it one if it was. Spectacular finish. Not long after that, bad giveaway at the back from Angel City.
37:18Yuzuki Yamamoto takes advantage and scores to tie things up. And she's been brilliant. New to Denver, new to this league. Well done by her to get the goal back and tied 1-1. Beautiful goal side Manny. 50th minute later, Denver get the ball back. Yasmeen Ryan hits cross ball into heaps there for the rebound. I mean, what a hit from both of them. The control from heaps to keep it down. Ryan with the hit. Felt like Angel City was starting to unravel here defensively. Again, trying to play out of the back. That's been a problem for them. trying to play out of the back. They've been good with recovery defending but on the ball have struggled a bit and Denver took advantage.
37:5761st minute another giveaway by Angel City. Denver go on the break eventually is going to end up at the feet of Janine Sonnis who's had some amazing goals coming out of the back and the defense. Unbelievable season for her. She's scoring left and right this was on right here inside wraps it around the goalkeeper beautiful goal to get up 3-1 and to the 63rd minute we go angel city force a turnover long ball to john stotter finds chelufia for the goal i mean again one where i wish we had the camera angle we finally i think on the broadcast got the this zoomed out version that showed us that chelufia was behind yeah this angle is what finally did it really but still I mean we're not square there it is what it is my usual VAR complaint I want better camera angles I thought we were getting I was told we were getting them in preseason Angel City back into it 36 minutes into the show we get a little VAR complaint I think that's about well timed 72nd minute long throw in towards Centner takes a boot to the face penalty for Angel City yeah I'm unsure I mean this is just unfortunate the the second goal comes in the 63rd after Denver went up and then once again just a careless defensive mistake there.
39:16I don't know if she really saw her come through but yes, boot to the face is not accepted and Angel City was able to come back. Six goals in this game. 3-3 it would finish and just a reminder of the results that we've seen in week 21. Plenty of goals to enjoy. No goalless draws in this and some big talking points with some of these games. Buster Olney here for La Quinta by Wyndham. When you're traveling for work during football season, you've already got enough on your plate. That's why La Quinta by Wyndham makes mornings easy with a free breakfast featuring hot waffles and other favorites. Fuel up, tackle the workday, and when the day is over, you've earned a front row seat for kickoff and earned Wyndham Rewards points with every qualified stay.
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40:43Okay, but who is on the podium for our players today? We know the winner of the best footwear today is Ali Krieger, without a doubt. Look at these beauties. Thank you. Rocking those. Okay, let's get player of the week for you guys. Jeff, we're going to let you start. Oh, well, thank you very much. You might have to help me out here because for me. Good luck. Vanessa DiBernardo is the one, and the word I'll use, there we go. The word I'll use for her and for Kansas City is balance, because we've talked about throughout the season, the start of the season, the lack of Claire Hutton with the offseason transfer.
41:16I think their midfield's been imbalanced. It's lacked that holding midfielder. Vanessa DiBernardo has come back from maternity leave, built her minutes. We've seen her more as an attacking midfielder traditionally, but she's really helped bring some bite and some balance to that midfield alongside Lola Bonta. I think we saw her active throughout this, a near Olympico in this game as well. production on set pieces and throughout the midfield in open play. I think she was exceptional and she really provided them what they needed. 2-2 draw, but you look at the expected goals in this game, you look at what Kansas City was able to do, and I think really DiBernardo this week and in weeks prior really was able to provide Kansas City with something they've been missing in midfield.
41:56You like the pick? Yeah, I love the pick, and you make a good point coming back from maternity leave and just knowing how much effort that takes and energy getting back to game fitness and being in that competitive atmosphere and also you know just the players surrounding her also has helped make her look good so congrats to her from building all of that you know emotion mentally physically to get back out on the field playing her best at this level is really difficult after being out for so long that's great who have you got ali i have lindsay heaps denver summit i think despite the fact that they tied this weekend and had a really a really good game against Angel City.
42:37She scored a goal. That's not necessarily my storyline. I think the storyline is her coming back to the league and now kind of finding her footing in that leadership position that they need in the midfield, being that connecting piece and that leader from the front that they need in order to get this playoff push. You see this highlight here off of Yasmeen Ryan's incredible strike and it's a rebound goal that she was able to net in. well done by her but to go from a you know a champions league finalist team like olympic lyon to come back to your hometown team a new franchise a new team in the in the league and to help lead them back to where they you know want to be not only on the table but also playoff push i think for her that takes you know a lot of effort and leadership and well done by her yeah absolutely great stuff so last time i was on it's been a while since i was on we've established I went for Barbara Banda and I almost did it again, but I was like, I can't do that.
43:35They're not going to invite me back again and I love being here on Football W. So I'm going for Amanda Gutierrez. And I did have to check with you guys. Could I just give her the Brazilian Amanda? Which I probably could, right? But we all love a clutch late sob. Two late goals as well in the space of, what, 90 seconds to really ensure that that was a win and against the Spirit as well for Boston Legacy. see the first of those goals very very special as well so I thought Amanda Gutierrez you are getting it today it had been a tense 1-0 up until then and then she came on and changed everything and yeah look at this sees the goalkeeper off the line thank you very much and as if another one was to follow as well so I love that to make it 3-0 hard for coming on coming off the bench and making a massive difference in a minimum time.
44:25Love that. So that's where I've gone for. I hope you guys approve. Absolutely, yeah. I do approve. Yeah, we were talking about her preseason here as like maybe a dark horse, golden boot contender. She's been more of the super sub. And I mean, obviously in this case, you know, she's shown that production and what an upset. I mean, Boston with one of the biggest results so far. It's so difficult to play, you know, rowdy-outy as it is, but also difficult to come off the bench and make such an immediate impact and score two goals to solidify the win away. So well done for Boston. And despite the fact that they haven't really been where they wanted to be on the table this season, to get a win there, you know, with the additions of Lily Real as well as Schapansky, you know, adding to the team from Gotham and just kind of creating more of a sound, you know, starting lineup, I think their energy is going to change and it's going to shift for the rest of the season.
45:16Yeah, so great stuff. Great picks as well, guys. Yes, stick around with us. we do have more NWSL action coming up for you on ESPN this weekend, Sunday 5pm Eastern. Chicago stars taking on Washington Spirit. What can the Spirit do to try and put things back on course here? ESPN, ESPN Deportes and of course the app. Okay, we will not be seeing Katerina Macario make her wave debut in 2026. She's been put on the season ending injury list. Something else that you've been putting pen to paper to right now? Jeff. Busy week. Busy week. This is a tricky situation. It is. I mean, look, you know, I think first and foremost, she said it, she needs to get healthy.
46:03She's ever since she tore that ACL four years ago, long recovery setback. She missed the Olympics. So that's first and foremost. You know, obviously, it took us a while to get here, not for lack of asking of what's been happening. San Diego makes the transfer in March from Chelsea. Could have been a free transfer a few months later. So at least externally indicated to us some kind of expectation to play early half of the season. But that external communication didn't exist. And, you know, she's been listed with a heel injury on the availability report. And we saw in her Instagram post that she had a knee procedure.
46:41She framed it as a few months ago. That's about, well, that's actually more than the club has offered in timetables. So, yeah, it's just, you know, it's a top world player. I mean, we were, Macario, two-time Mac Herman Trophy winner, best player in college. Immediately, you know, the U.S. citizenship right into camp. We were talking about her, and still can, let's be clear, about, you know, an ex-marta potential type of talent and ability. Injuries have hurt that a little bit, obviously, but just, you know, people want to see her play. And I'm sure she wants to be out on that field. She talked about it in that Instagram post.
47:14and it's just been um we've just been waiting for that i guess has been the the struggle from a public point of view yeah and first and foremost i hope that she's okay and that she gets back to full fitness because we want to see her play we we love watching kat and she's an incredible teammate an incredible player and a staple with the u.s women's national team and will help them succeed if she's on the field but from a club perspective i feel like the communication has been very confusing we've heard foot and then we heard the heel and then we have you know now a knee especially coming from her it's been nice but that's been like requiring the procedure and kind of an ongoing issue that we didn't really we weren't aware of when the transfer had happened and just like Jeff had said we were excited to see her potentially you know we didn't know when it was going to be back but we thought this season and for the amount of money that you know they're paying her you would have thought that that would have been I guess more transparent to everyone so a lot of us have been a little bit confused you don't have to disclose every private detail don't get me wrong I haven't done that in my past either with situations but after an investment of that magnitude I just believe that you know the the timeline should make a little bit more sense and to me I don't necessarily think that it does and so yeah a lot of people have some questions surrounding that topic.
48:30Obviously there'll be questions about the World Cup next summer and the U.S. Women's National Team though that's something that this player will surely still be focused on but these things look difficult when you're seeing injuries like this. Yeah and And of course, Kat, you know, needs to be on the women's national team and the women's national team needs her to be successful. But they need her to be fit, fully fit. But she needs to work towards that now. And she has plenty of time, but she needs to play club in order to then continue to develop and then get called into the national team. And so I think, you know, as soon as she can get back to, you know, fully fitness and going to the, you know, getting recovered and going to rehab and doing all the things in the proper order, I think that national team is definitely still there and available.
49:19But everybody just wants to see her play and wants to see her play healthy. Yeah, I hope we see her. I hope we see her for San Diego. I mean, we know, I think we can all relate to what she talked about, moving home or her adopted home for, you know, to give back to her family, to play in a place that she loves and want to see her for club, want to see her for country. I mean, we missed her at the last World Cup. Would love to see her get that stage. And like you said, they'll have to get healthy first. And, you know, we still don't have a timeline. That's part of the obviously she's out for this season.
49:47Next season starts in February. Then you're talking about a few months to the World Cup. So I think you probably, at this point, we can't say exactly, but the focus, first and foremost, is probably if preseason is on the table, which maybe it is, we don't know, get in there, be healthy for preseason, get your feet under you. Hopefully that goes really well. And then certainly you'd be in the conversation for the World Cup. Yeah, hope that is the case. And we wish Kat McCurrier well. OK, there is a World Cup going on right now. It's the under-20s at World Cup. Let's get you caught up on USA taking on New Zealand over there.
50:19fourth minute ball flashed in front of goal and Alex Book's gonna took it away 1-0 yes well done to kind of get back into this tournament the way the US wanted to against New Zealand really good first goal Kennedy Fuller to make it two yeah captain Kennedy Fuller the route was on early yeah Michaela Johnson getting involved 3-0 yeah well a little couple of little deflections there New Zealand couldn't clear the ball out but well done to get the ball in the back of and then I have to make a three. Well, Faf would be over. And fourth here from Linda Ulmark. Might be the slowest velocity on a goal we've seen.
50:58Bucs found in the Bucs here. She gets her brace, five nil. Yeah, one of Seattle's favorite players. To be able to get back in the box and she was able to score in the back of the net. Madames. And the US was in a position here where they thought they might have to run up the score as a third place team to go through. Close range shot, saved at first here but Fuller there to score the rebound. Yeah, once again Fuller in the right spot at the right time to be able to make this 7-0. Yeah, soon to be 8. Sealy Strant. Wonderful back heel on the assist. They've actually needed this. I think just the scoring goals, getting confident in and around the box combination play builds confidence for the rest of the tournament for the US.
51:43Enalty given here, keep it bringing Toure down. Yeah, I agree with you Ali. I mean, this couple of rough games to start this tournament, get the PK and then your reward. Yes. Just a game against. Yeah, take the ball home with you. 9-0 win. Unbelievable stuff. Okay, this is how things are looking in Group D. Italy on top with seven points, Japan with five, United States four points none for New Zealand as it stands right now and this is how things look on the US is half of the bracket Brazil as mentioned I mean that's tough Brazil and if you win it you're probably getting Spain who's been the youth and senior at this point dominant team in the world Emma Hayes was worried going into this tournament these these fixtures are not going to help with winning a first title since 2012 at this level I mean listen this is also a result of you know in a situation that we're struggling with playing outside of fifa days we're not going to necessarily get our best players but uh what a lineup i mean brazil and potentially spain uh two incredible games but i think if you know the u.s can combine the way that they did against new zealand and finish the way that they did against new zealand have that confidence going into this next game and having all that mentality that we have as american players i think they do have an opportunity to win yeah great to see okay make sure to stick around with those on the espn app we have football americas coming up on thursday look at her doing a fine job of hosted ali moreno he's having to put up with on the latest 30 p.m eastern we'll have you covered on thursday with everything you need to know in the americas and in the men's game whether you meal prep or meal panic instacart's new shopping assistant clementine is here to help Now you can generate a recipe in seconds, add everything you need to make it to your cart, and have it delivered in as fast as 30 minutes.
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54:22Service Titan, AI for the trades. All right, tails from the pitch. Trinity Rodman. Somebody referred to Trinity Rodman as Ben Shelton's partner. Well, this is Football W. So this is Trinity Rodman watching her partner play in the US Open. All right. Anything to add here? I mean, unbelievable support from both of them. We know Ben Shelton also comes to Trinity Rodman. Trinity Rodman's games or her boyfriend I guess comes to Trinity Rodman's games and well done just to support each other through you know just two thriving careers and to see him be so successful and then I don't know how she made it there I guess just a pedal jumper she got on really quickly sprinted off after the Boston game I mean LaGuardia is right there but usually a charter is going to Teterboro I feel like I don't live that life but I don't know maybe Maybe a blade.
55:22I'm fascinated, yeah, just by the actual travel time to actually make it is what I want to know. Yeah. I think he was then joking. He said, well, I was losing when she arrived. But she's been such a good luck charm for him. He's playing amazing. Yep. So congrats. We love to see it. We wish continued success for both of them. Thank you so much for joining us for the latest edition of Football W. And thanks for having me, guys, and for helping me see it as well. We'll see you next time.
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