Gab & Juls Show: Will Arne Slot be at Liverpool next season?

23:12Julien Laurens:And then clearly he's still in pain. He's not feeling right, completely right. They don't want to take any risk. They're right. He's got a World Cup coming up this summer. So I think he doesn't want to take any risk either, which I can understand. But then why go out and tell people he's cleared to play? That's the part I don't follow. They're just quite honest in the medical report that they have every week on who's injured, who's not injured, who's recovering or in rehab. I think that was just part of just being honest in that way. to be fair, Zaire Emery is playing at such an incredible level right now that I don't have any problem if Fabian wants to take another couple of weeks to come back.

23:46Julien Laurens:As long as he comes back. Yeah, exactly. Liverpool fan groups are planning a series of protests against a proposed ticket price increase, Gab. Yeah, so this is going to make people in the US, it's going to make their heads explode because the ticket price increase, it's 3 % for the first year and then whatever inflation is after that right so it's not a big ticket price increase but one thing we know is this is why there's just different cultures in europe in the u.s the minute you even talk about this in europe and we're talking about increasing prices not on the corporates but on the rank and file people lose their minds so if you're really increasing these tickets by three percent ask yourself liverpool is this really worth it is it going to move your bottom line because this is not a huge part of your of your revenue base um i'm not surprised there's this reaction hopefully doesn't spill it over into more negativity that upsets the team and in their hunt for for top five finish barcelona fall at home to atlético madrid 2-0 jewels has changed very quickly at the end of the first half when paul cubarsi was sent off and julian alvarez delivered a gem of a free kick goal let's start with that correct decision yeah so we disagree on this i think because you think he's a red i don't think that jovani simone had any control of the ball whatsoever and the ball is behind him how can this be a red card when the ball is behind the player but the ball's behind him but he knows where the ball is he he can't control the ball he doesn't need to control the ball what the ball so the ball is not under control from him the ball is not his okay so Forget about the ball.

25:21Julien Laurens:Okay. So, Kubarsi runs into the back of his leg, right? Yeah? Yeah. So, Simeone runs across without the ball. Well, Simeone is running forward. The ball comes in. It's just behind him. He's behind him, yeah. He tries this. He tries what looks like some sort of weird controlling back heel. Misses it completely. Yeah. As he does that, Kubarsi runs into the back of him, right? Yeah. I just look at it as this. if Kubarsi doesn't touch him, the ball goes across, Simeone runs across and gets the ball. The other side, yeah? Yeah. The ball is coming from his right-hand side. Yeah. He's going on the right, the ball is going on the left.

25:59He's going to turn and go to the left. There's nobody else there. Yeah, so he can't score, right? What do you mean he can't score? Of course he can score.

26:04Julien Laurens:No, he doesn't have the ball. No, but he runs to the ball. Oh, yeah, he's going to go to the ball. He's going to go recover the ball. Yeah, but he's not... But he can't recover the ball because Kubarsi's run into him and knocked him over. He doesn't have the ball. It doesn't matter. You still can't foul somebody. Of course it does. When they don't have the... It doesn't matter. It's not a red card. You're not denying him a goal-scoring opportunity. That's why it is here. Is he going to score? I don't know. He doesn't have the ball. Exactly. He doesn't have control of the ball. So he can't... For me, it can't be...

26:29Julien Laurens:It's a free kick. It's a yellow card. But it's not a dog show. Exactly. For me, because the ball is behind him. He doesn't even have control. He doesn't even know where the ball is. We disagree on that. Yeah, yeah. But I think, you know, that's the way I... Okay. The free kick is great. Amazing. I've been so critical of him. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He's been so bad for so long. And then he comes up with stuff like this. Yeah, incredible. And for what is not a good season for him, really, when you know how good he is and he's had those really bad patches of games where he didn't score, sometimes he didn't even start.

27:01Julien Laurens:And yet he's, in this game, outstanding. Really outstanding. Not just the free kick, but all the work that he did up front. It's just very special. Where do you stand on what Flick was asking for the red cards for Mark Pruble? I mean, we saw Aston Villa and Tyrone Mings and Debo Martinez being sanctioned of a penalty for this and a yellow card. I think it should have been the same. The kickoff had been given. The ball was in play. He took it with his hands. We're going to disagree again because we also saw Arsenal against Bayern. Yeah. And that was not sanctioned the year before. Look, the referee, I spoke to somebody who's familiar with referees and UEFA referees after the Arsenal Bayern thing.

27:40It's just like, the referee, it's not about the whistle. The referee decides when the game starts, right? So it's 1 ,000 % up to him. He can whistle, he can start, and he can say, no, no, no, the game actually hasn't started yet. So it's entirely the referee's call. So I also think it's pretty chintzy to go and complain about something stupid like this when you obviously know what the intent was. now is there an inconsistency with the ming's call probably possibly i don't know what was the intent from atletico madrid's point of view the intent was obviously to waste time i would assume right so but it doesn't mean like penalty very clear like because then we do it again then then

28:19Julien Laurens:probably stops the ball play it back to muso stops the ball and then the referee books him for time wasting but he doesn't award a penalty because then that's what flick wanted i don't know i think there was a bit of a point there somewhere. Gab, were you surprised by how the two managers reacted to the sending off at halftime? So, I really was. And then I can see the logic from both of them. From Flick's perspective, I thought, okay, alright, this sucks. We're a goal down. But you know what? We're a better team. We beat them just last weekend. Let's go. We're not going to be defensive. We'll still give Lamin opportunities.

28:55Got to take off Lewandowski. but I'll put ballers in midfield keep the ball, make them chase us and see if we can get a mistake if not, I'm confident that we can beat them and level everything because we're a better team instead, what does he do? he takes off Petri now Petri might have had a knock I don't know but I said, wait, this makes no sense and then you send on Gavi who's been injured forever in his place and then I realized that the second half it turned into, it was crazy they had like 65 % possession and they kept going for it and going for it I don't have a problem with attacking football, but guys, it's first half.

29:28You can play your attacking football in the second half. Equally from Simeone, I said, you've got to take the game to them. You've got Eric Garcia and Gerard Martin at the back. You have Dani Olmo and Gavi in midfield. You should be overrunning them. You've got ballers. Now, both can say they were vindicated because Barcelona in the end held Atleti to just one shot. Simeone can say, oh, yeah, but that one shot by the only living sore loss in captivity was a goal. So now we take a two-goal lead. I think, so they both surprised me. Both know more about football than I do. It kind of worked out for both of them.

30:07But, yeah, and that's what makes this game fun, right?

30:09Julien Laurens:You were surprised too, no? That Pedro came off. For Pedri, he wanted Gavi to go and press. Gavi presses much better than Pedri. He knew that he would have a lot of the ball. Why are you pressing in the first half of a game when you've got the second leg to go. I think, but they could have come back in that game at 1-0 down. Definitely. But they can come back in the second leg. But why not come back in the first leg if you can? Because if you get it wrong, because you've got your silly defender, you've got Cancelo, you've got all these guys at the back who aren't really defending, and you lose 3 or 4-0.

30:39Julien Laurens:But he's also their style. Gab, you can't just change. I'm not asking him to be defensive. I'm just saying. That's what you're kind of saying. You can play possession. Simeone, game plan for this game was just to defend. At 11 v 11, they parked the bus, they defended. I think they had four or five touches in the Barca box in the whole first half. They had five touches in the second half at 11 v 10. That was the game plan. It kind of worked, although I think at times they were a bit lucky. But they go home with a two-nil lead and they should advance, really. A leg strike from the best on earth, Kai Havertz, gave Arsenal a 1-0 win away to Sporting.

31:15Jules, that felt a bit cruel towards the home team.

31:18Julien Laurens:Yeah, Athos Sporting and they're a good team. We know they're a good team. They've been really, really fun to watch this season in the Champions League. They can do a bit of everything and quite well if they have to defend deep, if they have to attack in transition, if they want to keep the ball. They've got really good players that could do a lot of things. Hulman not starting, not being there. He was suspended for the game. It was a massive blow because he's the guy in the midfield and the captain that makes everything ticking. And he plays a 19-year-old in his place. Yeah, yeah, which didn't do too badly, but it's not the same.

31:49Julien Laurens:So, yes, it's a big role, although Arsenal are very good at being very efficient in the two boxes. Raya, your forwards. It was a bit laborious at times, sure, in the way they moved the ball, but they also didn't want to take too many risks, as we know. And in the end, that one minute of brilliance got them the goal and the win. No Bukayo Saka in this game. No Izzy, no Timber. Didn't have the real Martin Odegaard either. I don't know I don't know you go down this route you need a really good goalkeeper which they have yeah because sticking with Arsenal Gab you've been raving about David Raya all year remind us why he's not Spain number one yeah so if Arsenal win the Champions League this year they need to build a statue to David Raya because those saves were incredible why is he not Spain's number one we see this happen all the time it's like a guy goes abroad young he becomes really good De La Fuente is a bit of a traditionalist with Unai Simon.

32:43I think there's a strong case to be made for Juan Garcia as well. That's how they view it. But when it comes to remaining calm and shot stopping, I mean, I think Raya is much better than Unai Simon. Juan Garcia is different because of the defenders ahead of him. I think he's getting a raw deal. I think he's exceptional. Yeah. Most protein drinks ask you to choose between results and taste. Bucked Up decided that's a ridiculous trade-off. Bucked Up makes lightly carbonated protein drinks, 25 grams of protein per can, Clear protein, not milky or thick, and they taste so good that 25 grams of protein almost feels like a bonus.

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34:09Jules, the first legs are over. You know what that means. Time to play the percentage games. Percentage to go through. Bayern against Real Madrid. Bayern 2-1 up from the first leg.

34:20Julien Laurens:Yeah, we'll go 60-40 in this one because I think Bayern are outstanding, but they're also, like an NBA team, they also can leave themselves very exposed. And I think there's something there for Real Madrid to exploit. It might not be enough, but I think 60-40 is fair. They're going a little lower, 55-45. Then Arsenal against a sporting club, the Portugal. Yeah. Arsenal 1-0 up from the first leg. I think it's difficult not to see Arsenal going through at the Emirates on Wednesday. I'll go 80-20. I think Sporting are a good team. They're much better at home than they are away from home too, as we saw, for example, against Bordeaux-Glimt.

35:00Julien Laurens:And Arsenal at home, especially when they have the lead, especially when they can control things even more than when they usually do. They are the best in the world, really. So I have to go for 80-20. I think Suarez suspended for the second leg. I think that's a big blow for Sporting. I think Arsenal's underbacks actually kind of struggle to get a hold on him. I know Catamo and Araujo got a lot of the attention. I thought that was problematic. Is Timber going to be back? Don't know. yeah yeah ben white makes me really nervous too so but still as well but i'm going 85 15. gab your turn now atlético madrid barcelona and that two nil win away from home for atleti in the first leg yeah so look one of the big themes for me that we're hearing from our colleagues especially sidlow over and over again was just he was getting angry at all the stereotypes that people are throwing out about gritty dark arts super defensive atlético madrid and barcelona and the high line him look and i and i think that's nonsense um i think there may be some relic of that left in there and obviously basalona are more attacking sides yeah but i don't trust atleti to go out there and simply park the bus for 90 minutes if they do that um i don't think they're going to advance so i think this is going to be somewhat more open game if we see laminia mal did you see the one when he beats like six players yeah yeah yeah at the weekend as well my boy who jerry who did well we did well he did well for a while and then he got beaten at some point which by the way there's some commentator on television i don't i'm not going to name him because i don't know who he is kept calling him rougerie i'm like bro watch our league of coverage learn to pronounce a name but whatever um yeah i'm gonna go atletico madrid

36:5460 because it is two goals all black might be back uh i go atletico madrid 60.

37:00Julien Laurens:i go lower than that i'm not far from thinking it's still a 50 50 game i think if atleti can win two nil in barcelona barca can win two nil in madrid but i'll give it 55 45 because i still think that el cholo can park the burst and they could manage that lead so and if hulian alvarez scores goal yeah exactly and finally gab liverpool against psg and that tuning deficit from the first leg for liverpool yeah like i said i feel so much better about this if i were paris a germain if i had gotten that third that is such a game changer can you see a situation where something happens a mistake liverpool score early and then all of a sudden it's the anfield roar and they push on and he sends on Salah, minute 88.

37:44Yeah. That falls over in the box, converts the penalty, goes to extra time. And then Safonov throws it into his own net. The Safonov factor and the Anfield factor, to me, are the two reasons. Look, Safonov was fine. Yes, yeah. He wasn't really challenged very much. No shot on target. But it's going to be different in this return. And that's why I, obviously I still have Paris Saint Germain as favorites but I'm gonna go 65 35 because of

38:15Julien Laurens:Anfield and because of Safonov yeah 60 40 I think he's is fine for PSG yeah yeah yeah because I think you're right I think they would have to be better they would have to react they can't be that bad again shortly so what crazy lineup could he choose this time what about a three two five lots genius idea which one next Ahmad Yallo has endorsed Michael Carrick to get the Manchester United job on a permanent basis, Jules. Obviously, what's he going to say? No, I don't want Carrick to be here, right? So there's no good answer to him. But in general, we can't escape all the Solskjaer experience. Nope.

38:52I think United know this, and they're going to go through the proper interview process, right? Yeah, yeah. They have to, yeah?

38:59Julien Laurens:Yes, they have to, and Carrick will be part of that. He will have a chance to show his project like the other candidates. the players like him a lot the fans like him because he's obviously a former great player of the club but also because he's done a really good job since he took over actually that's not enough for United to say okay no problem we give you a five year contract especially with what happened before although Carrick is a better manager than Solskjaer will ever be there's no doubt about that so you know on that okay I get that I would give it more to Carrick than to Solskjaer ever but still I think there would be a process but you know what I wouldn't be surprised if at the end of that process, Carrick gets the job, sure.

39:38Julien Laurens:But there would be a process. Yeah, no, I think I completely agree. What I find interesting, though, about what's going on, like if United have like a wobble, if they have a couple bad performances, I wonder if the whole like commentariat of ex-United players in the media who are so powerful, if they come out and they say, oh, well, but you know, Carrick needs to know he's in charge that the players to follow him, give him the job now, blah, blah, blah. He's earned it. Like they did last time with Solskjaer, which led to, I think, basically a couple of wasted years for United. Or if they all remember what happened before, I said, no, no, no.

40:15Let the string play out. Let Kerik be evaluated on his merits and take it from there.

40:20Julien Laurens:Let's rewind to Mondega. Maci Apolitano scores late and Napoli beat Milan 1-0. Yeah, I was very happy for him after the Bosnia situation. I think this pretty much knocks Milan out of the title hunt, assuming they were ever in there. Napoli can still hope a little bit. Wasn't a great game. A lot of that had to do again. Allegri away from home, determined, oh, look, I'm going to keep it tight, wait for something to happen. No, bro, don't work that way. And so I think if Napoli finished first or second, they will have fully earned it, and it's a big star for them given all the injuries they've had.

41:00now sticking with Napoli Antonio Conte means no words when talking about the Italy job well it's right that I'd be among the candidates if I were in charge I'd put myself on the short list Jules what do you make of this?

41:14Julien Laurens:it looks to me Gab that he wants the job you think? he wants to go back there we mentioned that already on Monday's show he did a very good job there when he was there the first time in the Euros 2016 with a not really talented squad horrendous team horrendous team he did his thing at Napoli, you know, winning the title and it's not easy to work there, the Laurentiis, all of that, blah, blah, blah. He probably thinks right now I can have, I'm not saying that the Italian job is, you know, not as rewarding as Napoli or another club, but there's something interesting, I think, for him to do in terms of rebuilding, in terms of bringing more momentum, reconnecting with the fans, getting more success again.

41:54Julien Laurens:And I think he probably looks at it and think like yeah i fancy this uh you know what's funny is there's obviously been all sorts of inquests in italian media and stuff like that and yeah we talked about how blockages sort of young players come through they're actually pretty good but then they don't make the jump into the first team with the same regularity as they do elsewhere um i i saw the stat where i think it's over the last five years if you look at all the youth tournaments under 17, under 19, under 20, that's what it was, the World Cup under 21. Italy have qualified for 25 tournaments.

42:30That's more than any other European country, including England. It's just one more than England. It's three more than France. So the players are obviously kind of getting there. And they've won a few as well. And they've obviously also won a few. So it's a question of how do you make then the leap forward into the first team?

42:50Julien Laurens:Juventus, This will pass Genoa 2-0 and they move within a point of fourth place, Gav. Yeah, this was a solid win. They gave up a stupid penalty late, which Di Gregorio coming on and saving it. They thought he was a forgotten man. Jonathan David getting the start up front. He played pretty well. Yeah, but he still hasn't scored for ages. Yeah, but I think Spalletti kind of understands this dude's going to be around next year. And rather than going all old school and Milik or Yildiz to the middle. But yeah, Juve wrapping this one up. Early Weston McKinney scoring again. He's in phenomenal form. They need this top four finish, Jules.

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45:23Julien Laurens:I think he would be available this summer for you would think quite a small fee, I don't think he would be anything extravagant. Let's put a number on it using the Mike Mignon scale, if you remember Mike Mignon, a year left 20 million was what? 20 million, Chelsea ended up bidding a million less or something like that which is so, that's why they're doing so well with Robert Sanchez and your boy Phillip yes I think something like that for Alisson between 15 and 20 would make sense. I think if you're Juve with the experience. He's three years older than Mignon as well. Yeah, he's a bit older. But still, as we saw with Neuer earlier, with goalkeeper, it's a little bit different in terms of longevity.

46:01Julien Laurens:We like Di Gregorio. There's no problem with him. But this would be an upgrade. I prefer Perinho, but yes, Alisson. The real Alisson, you'd have to look at his fitness. You'd have to look also if he starts at Brazil and they win the world cup under collect or do some really well might that then change the dynamic at liverpool as well might that change you know the opportunities available to allison but obviously as far as um this is venture in europe seria is where the magic began yeah um yeah personally i wouldn't spend that much in the goalkeeper i would keep going down this line of get the team to improve incrementally but hey according to the guardian at least nine prime elite clubs don't have front of sponsors for next season after the new regulation banning bookmakers logos gab is this a big deal it's not a big deal they will get them um obviously by the way you can still have bookmakers as sponsors it's just they can on the sleeve sponsors and stuff like that on at the front i think it's good if they did this it's not something anti-gambling it's just something that so many of these bookmakers were bookmakers that don't even operate in the uk so they're bookmakers that the legislation and the regulations surrounding them, many of them, is really, really murky.

47:18There's some great reporting out there from Josimar and stuff like that. I don't want to say anything more in case these guys get litigious, but you can go and do your own research on some of these guys. Plus these stupid names. I mean, Manbet? I mean, what is that? Like a grinder or something? Or the Bet Anno? I bet Anno's a slightly different, but still, it sounds funny to me. It's not a big deal. Well, the bookmaker that the clubs put out, and I love it when they put out numbers out of context, and it does the opposite of what, like, ooh, the clubs have lost up to 80 million pounds. And I'm like, yes, and then you get a new sponsor, and then you make up most of it.

47:56And by the way, losing 80 million pounds spread out among nine clubs, not that much money, you know, within the context of the game. So, no, I think it's not a big deal at all. Leicester City's attempt to have their six-point penalty for violating profit and sustainability rules was unsuccessful, Jules. This is a team that won the Premier League not that long ago, won the FA Cup not that long ago. The possibility that they'll be in the third tier is very real.

48:25Julien Laurens:Yeah, another relegation potentially for Leicester. They're currently 22nd in the Championship, five games to go. So it's not impossible, but they are struggling. They're struggling for form despite having a huge wage bill, despite having still for some of those players, Premier League calibre players, really. It's unbelievable that they might be in League One next season. And I don't know what would happen to this football club if they were relegated again. And 10 years after winning the Premier League, as we say in the most incredible way, being down to the 30 of English football. Now, if you were a Leicester fan, would you be angry at the Premier League and the FA and the football league in this case for enforcing the regulations definitely not it's the way your club had been run you'd be angry at the chief executive and the owners the wages that they gave to players remember last season i think in in the whole of europe they were the 16th highest wage bill 16th highest wage bill in the championship see i would love these people i'm assuming all these people except for the owners who don't talk uh have lost the club have left the club now right yeah i would love for these people i would love for the for the fans to and maybe they do i don't I don't watch the championship.

49:34But I think these are the people who should be held to count. These are the people that really, really hurt the club.

49:38Julien Laurens:Absolutely. They've got an amazing training ground, one of the best in the country, and yet they'll be playing in League One potentially next season. Also back on Monday in Italy, Gab, Como were held. Nel Nel Aoudine is still fourth, but the lead of the fifth is just one point now, Gab. And their losses suggest that they might not get to play in Europe anyway, even if they do qualify. Yeah, 132 million euros in losses last season. I would assume it's going to be the same, if not higher this season, maybe higher because they have to pay Sergio Roberto and Morata as well. Their owners seem very chilled out about this.

50:15They talk about how, well, but we're not a football club. It's a lifestyle brand and we make money from merchandising and this, like that. I'm like, yeah, bro, but you still have a stadium that holds like barely 12 ,000 people. So like, how are you going to make this up? I think what works in their favor and it's going to be the test is if you haven't been in Europe for is the so-called voluntary settlement agreement, which is if you haven't been in Europe for a long time, you can come out and say, OK, look, this is our five year plan. these are targets we've exceeded them obviously at the beginning but can we strike a deal where we promise to hit this target next year and that target the year after that and obviously the losses have to come down and blah blah blah um they're very confident that they can do that maybe they can then can they stick to it i don't know i i know they they have like five pr companies working for them and they go on about george clooney and lake como guys if you go to como game you're not going to be sitting next to george clooney most likely right like i don't i really don't get this i really don't understand the business model um they say oh but we do so well in social media and we we've got all this merch and people people visit como i might get people visit como but it's como i mean with all due respect like it's not venice yeah right then is venice tried to do this not that long ago those are the crappy stadium they're freaking venice they get like 50 times the tourists that Como get.

51:48I don't see people walking around with Como merch. Extremely cool. Also, I don't know how much money you make off the merch, frankly. So, I don't know. I'll be really curious to see how this point points out. FIFA have opened an investigation on some of the Islamophobic singing in Spain's Friendly Against Egypt. There's a separate civil investigation, too. This is from Catalan law enforcement, because it is a crime allegedly what happened there this is inevitable right yeah we said it as soon as we

52:19Julien Laurens:reported on it after that friendly match in barcelona uh remember if you don't remember or if you haven't seen it uh some part of the stadium the spanish fans were jumping up and seeing the song like if you don't jump you're muslim which is obviously not on and not allowed in not just in a football stadium but anywhere really so that's right and again i don't know how you punish those people i don't know where you go from there but at least it's good that they're looking into it that seriously yeah i think what you want to see here is you want to identify people i mean you can there was a lot of them though so there's a spanish fa but yeah but i i would assume certainly in some countries you know who's bought tickets in that area you have cctv I'm glad FIFA are taking this seriously This falls in the same category as homophobic chanting As racist chanting And as we said, we praised Amin Yamal for coming out And saying like, hey, you know, I wasn't jumping The world has changed, guys Montreal, like Chicago, is one of the major cities That will not be hosting games at the World Cup this summer And local newspaper L 'Enquête has revealed why they pulled that gun.

53:35It gave you that question, because I wanted you to pronounce L 'Anquette. Yeah, L 'Anquette and Montreal. Well, it's interesting, right? Because people wonder, well, why don't the biggest cities go in hostess? And Montreal, like Chicago in the US, obviously major, major cities, a lot of football fans there. And so they obtained some of the conditions and they argue, and I believe this is accurate, that every city had to subscribe or every stadium had to subscribe to the same conditions. And in their case, they would have had to put in a natural grass field. They would have had to introduce a temporary retractable roof over the Olympic Stadium, which, by the way, is municipally owned, I believe.

54:14They said you couldn't have any events there at all between April 19th and July 19th, which is the day after the World Cup final. You couldn't have any events at all in the city in the week before the World Cup final and the week after the World Cup final. Bear in mind, the World Cup final will be played in a different country. and this meant obviously they couldn't it would have been a problem for the Canadian Grand Prix there's a famous jazz festival in Montreal, I don't know if jazz isn't my thing and they said we would have lost so much money on this and it's going to be really interesting the other cities if FIFA really did drive such a hard bargain how they think they're going to make up the money I mean it's not if you're LA, not such a big deal you have other stadiums or if you're New York or whatever But for some of these others, this really is a massive, massive, massive imposition.

55:08And I think there's a whole financial side to this World Cup. And this story is going to run and run. Legendary Romanian manager Mircea Luchescu has passed away at 80 years of age. Jules' tributes are pouring in. Put his career and impact in context.

55:25Julien Laurens:Yeah, yeah. Really, really sad day for Romanian football, but I think for world football as well. what a great servant to the game he's been incredible he was still the Romanian national team head coach right now during the international break he fell ill and then things after that got worse very quickly but he spent probably between the time that he played because he was a decent player he was a Romanian international for example and then coaching as you said Gabi died at 80 he would have spent 60 years on the football pitch maybe even more was successful everywhere he went from Romania to Turkey to Russia and then to Ukraine, where he really fell in love with the country, the football over there, to the point that even during the invasion of Donbass, he stayed when he was the Shakhtar manager, stayed and lived there, stayed with his players, stayed with the fans and everybody involved with that football club.

56:17Julien Laurens:An incredible guy, really. The football was also very good, as well as the trophy. I think that's why he will leave behind. Yeah, he won the UEFA Cup, of course, famously. Honestly, it's funny, I think he didn't really make, he didn't really coach a big club in, say, in the West, in so-called Big Five League. With one exception, he went to Inter, lasted three months, didn't work out. Prior to that, what stands out for me is when he did come to the West, and obviously there was an iron curtain and all these things that made it more difficult. he chose to go to Italy at the time when Serie A was the best league in the world and he motivated it by saying in part art and culture and you know there's more UNESCO World Heritage Sites here than anywhere else or whatever and he bounced around all these smaller teams but he really had an impact at Pisa, at Brescia especially.

57:15I wonder how and he brought a type of football that was actually was very very attacking very much based about what do we do with the ball at a time when italian football back then was mostly really reactive this is even before saki so um just just a giant of the game who who marched as they say by his own drummer um yeah the bosnian ball

57:41Julien Laurens:boy who stole gigio donnarumma's notes before the penalty shooter in the italy both in the bosnia italy game the playoff world cup final i don't know if you remember that but said that he would auction them the notes for charity are you okay with this um sure you do whatever you like with them i mean you want that's what went through i don't think the notes are the reason that bosnia won the shootout i also to some degree i'm not being funny here i'm all for um you know spithousery and whatever i don't think ball boy should get involved in this whether it's the uh cup of donations final or this going and taking somebody's thing or with the nonsense that hannah hampton said about taking the water bottle and then no but it should she really do it whatever it's just not it's not your place yeah um but hey whatever at least some money might go to charity i wonder what kind of loser is actually going to go and put money into this you're better off just making direct donation jules this brings us to an end yeah but we're going to be coming back to you on Monday because there's a big, big weekend ahead, including but not limited to Manchester City's trip to face Chelsea.

58:47How about that? Exactly, yeah. Until then, love the game. Love your neighbor. Love yourself.

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