Italy Eyes World Cup Qualification

23:42We don't even know who these people are. You have to be deeply entrenched in Brazilian football to know who these managers were. And in comes Carlo Ancelotti, who obviously carries a whole lot of respect and weight and history with them, and yet we haven't seen a whole lot better from Brazil. Better, but not significantly better. This team has round of 16, quarterfinal at the most, and then they'll play against a team like France, or they'll play against a team like Spain, or a team in that sort of level, and it's game, set, and match. I don't think they have much more than that, as you try to sort of picture what they're going to be in the World Cup.

24:17Would Brazil's missing players tonight have made any difference to this side, Jules? Yeah, probably I think Gabriel and Marquinhos to start with. As the two centre-backs, Bremer did okay, he scored that goal, but defensively I thought Brazil were not great. When France had those moments of possession in the Brazil half, especially in the first half before the Kylian goal, and then as we saw on the Kylian goal, they lacked pace. I mean, there's not many centre-defenders anywhere who could match Kylian Mbappe for pace, but still, you get the idea. I don't think the 4-4 would work in a World Cup anyway.

24:53I've been very sceptical from the beginning since Carlo Ancelotti tried to do it the first time round. You can look at it and he probably misses Bruno Guimares as well in a game like that, maybe even Lucas Paqueta. So there's other things he can do in midfield. But that front four of Martinelli, Vini, Cunha

25:13and whoever the fourth one was, I'm not sure it really worked. Okay. And so one thing we do want to mention is that we did see Rafinha have to come off. He was replaced by Luis Enrique. And one thing we have been seeing from the reports is that it's muscle pain in his right thigh at the moment. So we'll keep our eye on that and how things are looking for him. In today's world, planning ahead isn't always top of mind. But not having life insurance can leave families facing difficult financial uncertainty during already emotional times. In many cases, loved ones are left managing expenses, debts, or long-term obligations without a clear plan in place.

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27:12Brought to you by Argenics. But speaking of injuries. Oh, pain. Kylian Mbappe's knee injury misdiagnosed after Real Madrid staff scanned the wrong leg. That's what the reports say, that they performed the MRI on the wrong leg. But who do we believe? Here is Kylian Mbappe himself. But does he set the record straight? No, the information that they scanned the wrong knee is not true. As I said, I may be indirectly responsible for this situation, because when you don't communicate about what you have, and when you don't communicate about what is going on, it leaves open the door to interpretation, and everyone is rushing to fill in the blanks.

27:59I know what I'm getting myself into when I'm communicating or not communicating. Now, with Real Madrid, we have always had a communication that was quite clear, whether it was when I started my rehabilitation in Madrid or when I was in Paris, where I was accompanied by the doctor, a physiotherapist and the club's physical trainer, where we worked from Paris. So there is no problem with that.

28:27So mark a quote, Kylian Mbappé, that you just heard there in that interview saying, maybe I'm indirectly responsible, but I'm not too sure we're still fully clear on how these reports have come out. And so I'm going to task Julie and Laurent, I'm sorry, Jules, with telling us more about this because you've been talking about it on the Gab and Jules show. We asked you about it in the pregame. We've just heard from Kylian here. Why were we seeing reports like this in the first place? Well, the story first came from France in a radio show that Frank and I know really, really well, where they mention the scan, the MRI on the wrong knee.

29:07I think as we've explained on the show all week pretty much, and especially the boys who play know exactly the process when you go for a scan like that, an MRI, they put a call on your knee. So it's not you just don't go in your pants in a machine that scans the knee that is hurt. There's actually a process to it. And Kylian Mbappé would have said, hang on guys it's the other one that is damaged i think the whole thing is the the wrong mri is not true as kilian just said however which is true is that earlier on so before the mri a few weeks before that when he complained the first time about pain in his knee it's true that they looked at the wrong knee and they kept telling him it's fine it's okay it's not serious you can keep playing so he kept playing through the pain which clearly didn't help his left knee when they'd been looking for most of it at the right knee.

29:57I think that's why he said not so much in this pre-match press conference that he had yesterday, but on Monday when he had a public appearance for a new sponsor that he's working with now. And he explained that he was very angry at something, didn't want to really say what it was, talked about diagnosis that came late to him, too late for the injury that he had. And that's now, it's much clearer of what it was. But then as he explained as well, because there was a lot of tension between him and the medical staff at Real Madrid, that he didn't want to be looked after by them anymore, he also explained that when he went to Paris to do his rehab, then they had a lot of people from that medical staff to come with him to accompany him, so maybe he was blown out a bit of proportion and he started with the wrong information but in the end, the fact is still that at some point they looked at his knee and they were all over the place as the medical staff.

30:48I have a question. Right. Let's bring your youngest son into the conversation. Romeo, he turned five this week. Right. If he falls in the driveway, right, and comes to you, he would say to you, mommy, I got a nouchie. A boo-boo. I got a boo-boo, right? And then you would ask, where, Romeo? And he would say, right here, mommy, I got a nouchie right here. Okay. You're telling me that a player is being checked for whatever the issue may be and whatever pain he has on his knee, and neither the doctor nor the player are incapable of saying, right here, this is where it hurts. This happens in professional sports.

31:32This happens at Real Madrid. This happens at the highest level possible of elite clubs around the world. This happens that you cannot tell the doctor, it hurts right here. This right here hurts. We cannot say that. This is as ridiculous a story as you can possibly come up with that these things are happening and that it becomes the issue that it has become. This is ridiculous. Frank? Well, you know, the last time Jules and I were in the show, we say it's impossible. And I kept saying that because it doesn't make any sense. I understand what Jules was trying to say. But of course, agree with Ali's analysis where, yeah, he will tell, you know, I have a problem in my right knee.

32:15I feel something. So he will check. And if he by mistake changed the left, said, no, man, I told you the right knee. Because the left knee is OK. Don't worry about it. The right knee is a problem. So, yeah, again, it doesn't make any sense. It's like Kylian tries to, you know, be nice with the medical staff and try to put all the responsibility on him. being not clear enough. But again, it doesn't make any sense. It's impossible. It's impossible for the scan. It's impossible for the MRI. It's impossible even before the MRI. So that story is impossible. And at the end of the day, stupid. So I think at the end of the story, we'll never know the truth.

33:00But I was absolutely stupid. Okay. Something else we need to talk about, because there have been rumours that Rodri could be joining Kylian Mbappe at Real Madrid next season. And this is him answering questions about playing for Real Madrid despite his past with Atletico. He said, no, no, there have been a lot of players who've taken that path. For me, you can't rule out the best clubs in the world. I have a year left on my contract at City. I'd like to return to La Liga, obviously. The Premier League is my weakness, but it is also a very demanding league. For now, I'm very happy there. Kind of.

33:37Oh, Jules, does it sound like that to you? I mean, we've known for a while now that whether he waits and runs down his contract, whether he tries to leave this summer, especially if Pep Guardiola leaves, which I've said many times on the show, I really believe Guardiola won't be at City next season. But we knew he was going to go to Real Madrid. He only spent a year at Atletico anyway. It's not like if he was a club legend like, I don't know, Antoine Griezmann, for example, and then he decided to go there. And he's not even direct from one Madrid club to the other either. So I think we all know he will end up at Real Madrid either this summer or the following summer as a free agent.

34:16I mean, if I am to paraphrase and read between the lines, Rodri is pretty much saying, hey, my realtor in Manchester City, we're going to be gone. So we may have to figure things out here. We're going to get some boxes packed. We got to get the move ready. And Real Madrid, I'm right here. I'm right here. You can come and get me if you want to. Right now would be great. If you want to wait till next year, so be it. But right now is the time to do so. Ali, it's even worse. You don't have to read between the lines, you know. It's written. I want to go. I'm coming. I actually looked up a list of players who've gone from Atleti to Real Madrid when he said it's been done before.

34:59I mean, he's right. Hugo Sanchez did it. Yeah. Raul was in the academy at Atleti that closed down. So Real Madrid got hold of him. And we know what happened there. Thibaut Courtois. Thibaut Courtois. Not directly either. Okay. It went that way. It took the scenic route. Yeah, it went that way. Teo Hernandez. Santi Solari. Bernd Schuster. Beautiful hair, Santi Solari. Beautiful hair. Beautiful hair. So, yeah, we'll keep our eye on this one. We're going to let Jules go to bed, though, now. It's been a long day for Jules. He's been trying to work all out what's going on with Kylian Mbappe's knee, knees, whichever one it was.

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37:28We found out who's going to be in the finals. It is a mouthful. There's all different ways to say it. I think I managed to get it out and explain where we are. We have Frank, we have Gab, we have Ale here in the studio. And our first question is, Gab and Kay, can you sleep more calmly tonight with today's results? Well, I'll put that to the actual Italian here, Gab. Gabriele Marcotti. Yeah, no, I don't think I would have. I would have slept tonight if this at all ended tonight. Because, you know, there's levels of humiliation and going out in the first round of the playoffs, the World Cup path or whatever it's called, path A, that would have been a little too much.

38:12So, yeah, onwards and upwards, you can logic yourself into saying, aha, we have better players, so we'll be just fine. But as we know, the team of the best players doesn't always win. You have to show up on the day, you have to perform, and there's variance and there's randomness and all that good stuff. So no, I don't think I'm going to sleep very well until Tuesday night. And then only if things go according to plan. But at least it is still in the plans right now. Go on, Frank. There is one thing that maybe can give some comfort to Gab and yourself, Kay. You know, in the 90s, France didn't qualify for the World Cup.

38:5494 didn't qualify for the World Cup and they won the next one. So, you know, you never know. After two World Cup missed, you can get it. You want to tell us some of the players that were in that France team that won it, Frank? Conveniently. I don't remember. I forgot. It's too long ago. But even beyond the Frank jokes, do you want to tell us some of the rest of the players in that team when you actually are looking at the France team you are talking about and this Italy team right now? Well, that's true. It's hard to compare with the talent that we had and what I see with Italy, which is very sad because we have none.

39:33I played against Italy and I played against big club in Italy. So the football in Italy is not the same, but you never know. I mean, we've been a lot of time criticized by the press, the way we were playing. Eme Jacquet was at the age, you know, to get out of here. And we were very criticized before the World Cup in 98. So, you know, it's maybe the same for Italy. Maybe they're going to rebirth and be exceptional for the World Cup in the summer. You know, you have taken this conversation in a different direction. You deflected to Frank. You went this way and that way. Can you answer the question?

40:15Because it is addressed to you and Gat. Can you answer the question? Yeah, I do share a bed with an Italian, so I think that he'll probably sleep more calmly tonight because he won't be talking in his sleep going through all the upset. And so... I share a house with two hybrid Italians as well. And can you share with the people the emotion that you felt while we were doing a show and we're watching over there the goal by Tonali? I don't know what you're talking about. Okay. People deserve the truth. They can handle the truth. I cheered for Tonali's goal. Andiamo! Yeah! I have a whole Italian family.

40:55I know, but it was an angry celebration. It was a celebration of like, finally you're going to let me sleep tonight. So the celebration. I mean, since we've been married, Italy have not been in a World Cup. So you're the problem. Maybe. Maybe it's me, Frank. Oh boy. Maybe it's me. It's you, it's you. For sure it's you. You have to find a responsible for that, you know. That cannot be Italy. It has to be you. Yeah, don't blame the Italians, okay? What's more worrying? A manager hearing voices or one who respects the ball? Okay, so this is to do with Gattuso and one of his quotes, which I think I've got here for you.

41:35He said, I'd be lying if I said when I put my head on the pillow at night, I didn't hear the voices saying, take us to the World Cup, take us to the World Cup, take us to the World Cup. I hear it. And this is certainly the most important game of my career, even if I've been coaching for a few years now. So what's more worrying for you, Gab? Okay, now, here's the thing, all right? If you're Rino Gattuso and kind of your whole persona as a manager is sort of like, you know, you know, baby animal from Baby Muppets and he used to run around the pitch, he used to act crazy and he used to be all about intensity and passion and drive.

42:18And yeah, you probably do believe that he's superstitious and he hears voices and so on. It fits the character. It's on brand. Leroy Rossiniar, because of course that's the guy who respects the ball, it's on brand for him too because, you know, he's got the little glasses, he's educated, he speaks in complete sentences, he's got this sort of new age zen vibe. I think the big difference between the two is that the new age zen manager in English football rarely works unless he gets the results. The manager who screamed or the coach in any sport who screams and shouts and is passionate and motivated, that's very easy for fans and frankly players to digest and to lap up.

43:06So in that sense, I think Gattuso has an easier time and I'd be a little bit more worried about Rossini, even if he's being perfectly honest about communing with the ball, respecting the ball, you know, whatever he likes to do with the ball. Who would worry you more, Frank, as a Chelsea man? Well, I'm worried for both. I think they should see a shrink, you know, at some point, you know, because they have to talk about something, both of them. Well, it's only, you know, talking to the press, it's only what you want to say, because we all know that both are saying BS's. So, really, I'm worried for both of them and for their future.

43:49You know what? Frank, I've known Rino Gattuso for way too many years. I'm telling you, he is not BSing. He really does hear the voices. He really is like this. He is not playing a character. You can go on YouTube, find the press conference he gave when he was in Greece when he started swearing in five different languages and mixing them all up. I mean, this is who he is, for better or worse. He has one great quality, which he's developed over the years, which is he knows his limits. He's not going to try to do, try to be too clever. He's not going to do, try to do anything too sophisticated. You know, he's going to work on his strengths and push his strengths and try to minimize his weaknesses.

44:35But this is, this is who he is. He really does, you know, hear voices, speak to angels, eat raw steak for breakfast. This is what he does. You would have a real problem. And I mean a real problem if you heard voices that told you to respect the ball. That's when you have a problem. The combo package of doom. All right. And I'm not expecting Gattuso to be sophisticated, for sure. You know, after what I've seen him on the pitch, you know, no sophistication from him. Tell him that to his face, Frank. All right. Okay. Okay. Oh, well, now I can do. Before, no, but now I can do. Sure, he cannot run anymore, so I can take that and run.

45:22You see, sticking up for Italians, you see? You see why people say the things that they say? There isn't a rhyme for happy wife, happy life, but it's like for the husband version, but it's that, basically, all right? In-laws, a lot, everything else. Okay, we started with the husband, then you went to the kids, and now the in-laws. Yeah, all the Italian passport holders in my life. Okay, will Neymar be on the Brazilian squad for the World Cup, Ale? He has a better chance now than he did before given the injury to Rodrigo. The issue with Neymar is very simple. Fitness has been a problem and continues to be a problem.

45:59And even when he was fit, allegedly, wasn't playing at a high level consistently. And if you look at Brazil, there are issues not so much on the front end of the field, is far more in terms of what they get out of the midfield and if they find consistency in the back line. Now, you would assume that Marquinhos and Gabriel would play in the center back position, and that would resolve that. But that still doesn't address the fact that on the right-hand side, you don't have a right back that is really going to be a threat in the attack. You don't have the same thing on the left-hand side. It puts a lot of pressure on the midfield to create.

46:33And then you would say, well, that's where Neymar fits in. But then that's one more player for Brazil that is really not going to give you work defensively. And so then Carlo Ancelotti has to say, is this worthwhile? Is the juice that I'm going to get from Neymar worth the squeeze? It's the circus of Neymar being part of this team. Is it worthwhile for me to have around this team? If Neymar is unable to show that he can be fit and 100 % and ready to go ahead of the World Cup, the decision with Carlo Ancelotti will be very straightforward. If Neymar plays lights out from here till whenever Calvin Chordes has to make up his mind, then it's going to be really difficult to leave him out.

47:17Because every single news outlet in Brazil is asking exactly the same question. Will Neymar be there? If he were up to me, given what I know now, not what will happen in a couple of months, what I know now, I would say, no, thank you. This is not a lifetime achievement award. This is about who are the best players right now for my team. Even we asked Bebeto on the pre-game tonight because we did the friendly. Yeah, we're all asking it. We're all talking about it. OK, next question. What do the guys make of what Tuchel said about Trent Alexander-Arnold? So this is about why he's been left out of England's friendlies.

47:51And Tuchel said this. I know it creates noise when you leave a player like Trent out. We had a call. I tried to explain the situation. He just has to accept it. It's just a choice, a sportive choice, a difficult choice, and maybe a hard choice and maybe to a certain degree unfair, but these choices have to be made. He goes on to say he knows what Trent gives the team and why there are other players in his place. Gab, I'm coming to you on this. I mean, I don't know what's unfair about the choice. He's been injured for a big chunk of the season. When he's played, he's been good on the ball and not good off the ball, which is kind of like the story of his career.

48:35So if you have a setup where you're going to accommodate him not being good off the ball, maybe you make a pathway for him. If you have two outstanding centre-backs like Liverpool have had in recent years, maybe you make a pathway for him. That is not the case with England right now. Right now, Esri Kansa is likely to start at centre-back for England. If you have no other choices or you don't have choices that you trust, again, not the case with England. Because, you know, you look at Rhys James, you look at Tino Livramento, you look at, he has other options there. I don't think he needs to, I think people need to obsess over it.

49:11I don't, certainly if I'd been there, I wouldn't have asked them, hey, why is Trent Alexander-Arnold not there? As if I were Brazilian and asking about Neymar. You know, we're talking about a guy who's got other players in that role. Yeah, sure, if he gets back to where he was before, fine. and maybe Tuchel wants the option of adjusting the team to suit Trent's skill set. But, you know, you're seeing it at Real Madrid this season. He's not at Liverpool anymore. He has to carve out a new role, reinvent himself, and then maybe that's his pathway back into the national team. But right now, you know, it's not unfair, Tommy.

49:50Go ahead, just say it's not unfair. Having people who are more reliable than you and perform better than you, that's not unfair. That's just life. Frank? I 100 % agree with Gav. I mean, it's not unfair because you have better players than him. And Tourelle tries to find stability at the back and a real defender. And if you have Regime or you have Livermanto, I think in his comment, Tourelle was talking even about Ben White. I don't know if Ben White wants to play for the national team now. but he was naming players that are better than Trent Alexander-Arnold defensively. Yes, of course, offensively what Trent can bring is very interesting, but I don't think it's what Tourelle is looking for.

50:38So that's not unfair. The choice is a fair one according to what Tourelle wants. Agree with the guys? Yep. I sure do. Frank, be honest. Does France have any chance of winning the World Cup with Konate and Upamecano in the defence? You know what? That's crazy because that was the ninth or the tenth time that they played together and they started together. They never lost a game playing together ten times. So it says a lot, you know. But yes, yes, of course, if you compare with some other duels, you know, throughout the French national team history, like Blanc de Sailly, like, oh, I forgot, sorry.

51:26No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. Le Bonneau said he was pretty good too. I wanted, no, no, no, no, Umtiti and Varane, I wanted to, Umtiti and Varane, that was, that was stronger for me. But again, it works. Conate and Upamecano never lost when they played together. And today, before Upamecano red card, it was working better than the Brazilian defense, even if Gabriel and Marquinhos weren't there. But it works. And so far, Deschamps has to be satisfied with the duo. I'm not worried. I'm not worried because we have many on the back and that's good enough. Can I also make a point about this? Since we have a guy who played centre-back here at a rather high level, if you look around and you ask yourself what countries have rock-solid defensive pairings that we all feel really, really good about, it's not many.

52:27Look at Spain's centre-backs. Look at England's centre-backs. Look at Argentina's likely centre-backs. I don't see Barres and Costa Couture back there. A lot of people have issues at centre-backs. It's a great segue for the next question, guys. That's a very good point. It's the next question. That's a very good point he made. Wait there, Frank. Yeah, let me see it and then you can continue your point. The next question says France have the best attack. Spain have the best midfield. but who has the best backline in international football? So go ahead, Frank. My concern about the football in the new era and this era, I think that coaches forgot to teach players how to defend.

53:17And it's hard to name somebody like Sergio Ramos before or others. Van Dijk was like that at the beginning of his carry and since he's been injured, he changed. But I have a hard time to say, oh, what a defender. What a strong guy. Yeah, you have Saliba, you have Gabriel, you have Marquinhos. That maybe. Maybe it's Brazil at the best pair in the central defense. Maybe. That's why maybe they can do something during the World Cup. But after that, it's complicated. But yeah, Spain has the best midfield, but they have very good people at front as well. And France, they have a good midfield as well.

54:01And I think France are better than Spain defensively. There is a contest, of course, but I think they are better. Good question, isn't it? Well, I think what we can all agree, and I don't want to make this about Italy, but it fits the conversation. There are no kind of arrows walking around. And even the top-end centerbacks, those that you would consider to be elite, the best. You name whoever you may think is the best. Still not as good as the best was back then. And maybe Frank has a valid point in terms that there has been so much conversation about ball possession and attacking players and building from the back that you forget about the actual art of defending.

54:47There isn't enough, at least in my estimation, enough nasty defenders. Enough players that, as a striker, you would be very knowledgeable and conscious as to where they are on the field. Players that are intimidating. That their presence on the field and their leadership on the field really dictates how the game is going to be played. Even those that are the best, and you can consider that maybe Opamecano is among the best, You can consider that Conate may be among the best. I don't think they are, but they could very well be in that conversation. You watch those guys play, and they're mistake-prone.

55:25You couldn't say the same thing about the defenders of Frank's time. The best of the best at that level back in those days seem to have distanced themselves from the best right now. Okay. Next question. Yeah, go ahead, Gab. No, sorry, I think it's also telling that, you know, we can conclude that Brazil and Gabriel and Marquinhos, if you want to say they have the best centre-back pairing in the world, it's also pretty telling that neither of those two is the best centre-back on their club team, because I think most people would take Saliba and Pacho ahead of those two respectively. So, So I think that's a very, very valid point that Ali's making there as well.

56:12That, you know, in terms of the dominant defender who's in that role, maybe you could have put Van Dijk up there until recently. But yeah, there's sort of a vacuum for somebody to step into right now. Next question. What's the biggest penalty shootout you were ever a part of? Oh, boy. All of them, when I was part of it, and we won. It's the one that stands out, though, Frank. Now, really, I don't remember having a long shootout session, you know, like finishing eight, nine. I don't remember that.

56:54I don't remember that. No, nothing really. comes out for me, but no, nothing. 2011 Copa America semifinal against Paraguay and Gap's friend Ortigosa, good Lord, I hated that guy. In any case, and he scored a penalty, I believe, in that penalty kick shootout. We lost the semifinals in Copa America 2011 in penalties against Paraguay. And it's actually one of the things that bothers me the most if I look back in my career, which I don't do often, But if I were, when I sat back, I've already been taken out of the game by then. But there was a thought as the game was going into penalties. I wanted to go and tell our coach, hey, if we go to penalties, our second goalkeeper, he's longer and was really good at penalty kicks.

57:47And I knew this because we would take penalty kicks against both the starter and the second goalkeeper. And I hesitated in making that decision. And I always looked back. It wasn't my job to make that decision. but I always, that at least I should have floated the idea. Then maybe we go with this guy, this guy is more difficult to score against in penalties. I didn't and so that still, even now, still bothers me. One of those things that keeps you up at night. Yes, yes, yes it does. It's like Italy not making it to the World Cup. We'll see, that's going to be the case. All right, Ale, which team are you supporting for the World Cup this summer?

58:26Just don't mind why he has to do that, thanks. Well, I've had to do that my whole life. You know, I've never had the pleasure of supporting my own national team, not when I was a player, not in the World Cup. And usually it was, for those of us in Venezuela, you had a choice to make because we would support a South American team and it was either Argentina or Brazil. and when we were in the 98 World Cup my brother my dad and I were gallivanting all over France with Brazilian jerseys on and people would be like oh is you guys hardcore Brazilian fans no we're actually from Venezuela so historically we would have supported Brazil but now not really because once you start playing against this team I think they lose sort of that magic that you had as a kid and and you lose that sort of fanatism if you will you're not you're not so keen to go and support other people that are not wearing your jersey and so yeah i i wouldn't support any of them i would like south american teams to do well but we're here in the united states us obey baby huh line of the free home of the brave world cup here in the united states it's better for all of us that cover the game in this country for the United States to do well.

59:49Nice stuff. That's very strange, you know, because Kay is supporting Italy. What's Italian? Ali is supporting Brazil. And I received a picture from Dan. I invited Dan. I found four tickets from the French Federation, four tickets for his wife, Brazilian, and his two kids. And he sent me a picture of him with the Brazilian tracksuit. and say, thank you for the ticket, but come on, Brazil. You know, people are strange nowadays, you know. They don't want to support their own country. He didn't just send a picture. He also put it on social media just to let everybody know that he was supporting Brazil on Frank's ticket.

1:00:26Frank, I would support Venezuela if I could. If Venezuela were in the World Cup, you would see me with a jersey all along. No, you have an excuse. The two others, they don't, you know. They don't. Football is coming home and they don't care. Let's see how Brazilian he is if Brazil face England. All right. Okay. Ooh. Yeah. Yeah. I know. It will turn. It will turn his back. Yeah, I know. Absolutely. All right, guys. Thank you so much for sending in your questions. We will be back tomorrow to do it all over again on Extra Time.

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