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25:03So he wants him to be fit. And it's very strange, you know, you're standing for Real Madrid and you don't get prepared. I'm very surprised about that. So I don't know why players do that when they want to put them into trouble. and especially when you have a new coach, Mourinho, Portuguese, that you know you have to do everything to please him. So you take five days holidays after the World Cup and then you start working because otherwise, you know, you're going to be in trouble. And there it is. He's in trouble already. How would you feel, Shaq? I saw that statement and I wonder if it's more around the fact that there's an expectation as a Real Madrid player even in pre-season to perform, even in pre-season friendlies, where I think in my experience in playing in England, there is an acceptance that you're not going to be at your best in preseason friendlies.

25:58It will take you a while to really get going and file your rhythm, as we saw with Van Dijk in the Liverpool-Monaco game. There's an understanding and an acceptance of that. Now I wonder, and Frank mentioned Eden Hazard, I wonder if it's kind of born out of that, English players coming over to Spain or Real Madrid specifically, and there's an expectation around performances from the time you hit the ground, even in pre-season friendlies. And that is what Mourinho is, I want to say, protecting Bernardo Silva around. Maybe that's too strong a word, but that's what he is kind of alluding to. He's come out, if he's trying to protect him, he's come out and slagged him.

26:38This makes no sense. Why doesn't he turn around and say, Bernardo Silva has had some time off and it's going to take him a little bit of time to get back. Well, again, my... This whole paraphernalia... My thinking, it is in response to criticism he, Bernardo Silva, has come in for in this preseason. That's how I saw that side of it. If I was Bernardo Silva, I'd be chatting the door saying, can you explain this to me? Yeah. Because you're making me look bad. Yeah, can you just explain this paraphernalia? Yeah. You're making me look bad. That would be much appreciated. Not long until La Liga kicks off, every single game will be live on ESPN Plus for you.

27:21Espanyol against Real Madrid, Elche against Barcelona is when the big boys kick off. That is two weeks' time on the Saturday and Sunday, respectively. Before then, though, we see the other sides in La Liga start their campaign. All starts on the Saturday, Alves against Etape, Sevilla against Ravel Cano. And then on August the 19th, Atletico Madrid take on Malaga. A lot, of course, still to be filled in with regards to the story of Julian Alvarez and who he will be playing come the end at the transfer window. If you've shopped online, chances are you've bought from a business powered by Shopify.

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29:54Frank Leboeuf is still with us. Frank, we've talked about it. We've talked about Arsenal a lot. We talked about Bruno Kimmarias joining. This is the team to beat in the Premier League this season. It will be, yes, for sure. And because the others, we have so many question marks. We don't know where they're going because of the coaches' changes, or because of many, many signings and because of the bad season they had. And Arsenal were the only one, I would say, a little bit consistent, the only one who showed the strength to win the Premier League and did win the Premier League. So there is no doubt that they are the favorites again.

30:35And with Guimaraes on top in the middle of the park with Rice, that can be a fantastic pair. So yes, no doubt that they they're going to be ready for for for the get go. And and I have the only question mark that I have is how Mosquera will deal why Saliba is still is still out with his back problem. But otherwise, what a squad. Yeah, that's six one. And this is it. This is the difference when you take a look at the depth. You can argue that some players in the starting XI are better than the others. But when you look at this sport as a whole, it's very difficult to put up an argument as to why they won't defend their tides.

31:10It really is. Right now, I think the only contender to Arsenal and for threat to their retaining Premier League crown is Manchester City. Of course, there's still a lot of questions about Manchester City. New manager, how does that all work out? I don't see the likes of Manchester United or Liverpool or anybody else being able to challenge Arsenal at the top of the table. I will say, though, I continue to be unconvinced by their options as that out-and-out striker. Julian Alvarez signs if they're able to get that over the line. Somehow, if that happens, not even Manchester City, I think, comes even closer to laying a glove on them.

31:50In terms of their options, in terms of their quality, and most importantly, in terms of their experience, Now you get over the line, as you did last season, you know what it takes. And that is absolutely invaluable to Arsenal at this point. Who's anti-Arsenal now? Meanwhile, Manchester City in action in South Korea against Atletico Madrid. Atleti would take the lead. This would do just before. What lovely numbers Atleti have these days. Why don't we have numbers that no one can read? Dominguez will make it 1-0 here.

32:25Well he's rather fortunate the ball actually gets through to him but in the end it's a good finish. Into the second half we go Omar Mamouche makes it 1-1. Yeah it's a tap in for Mamouche just about. But Antoine Semeny on this left hand side look at this little flick here. I think it was intended it was special Semeny was different class today. And then Mamouche again makes it 2-1.

32:56And then into the 90th minute, Atnori makes it 3-1. Yeah, nicely taken in the bottom corner. This is what Enzo Mureska had to say about the future of Mamouche. The answer has to be similar to the one I answer about James Trafford. Players work every day, they want to play, so when they don't play, they are not happy. James Trafford has obviously gone to Leeds. If you're Mamouche, what are you thinking, Frank?

33:25I'm thinking that the door is not completely open. It's far from there. And if I have a possibility to go outside and find some game times better than Manchester City, I will ask to go but if I don't have anything secured you know I would fight and he's only been there for like a year and a half I'm not mistaken so it's still time for him to settle down and to prove the coach run the issue is look who you're fighting against yes you have Alan but you can play alongside him you can play around him so it's going to be hard for sure but you have to make sure that Enzo Mariska is being pushed to put you in because you work so hard during the training session, every time you've got a chance to go in, like today, you score goals, and you will be forced, I'm talking about the coach, to put him in.

34:19What are you doing if you're Mamouche? I'm trying to get a move. Listen, if I'm Omar Mamouche, of course I'm seeing this differently from me sitting comfortably here. As a player, I've always spoken about this kind of almost fatal self-belief, but truth is, Mamouche can score two or three goals in every pre-season friendly and come his start of the season, come the most meaningful of games, Erling Haaland is going to start. You know how good Mahmoud can be. You saw that at the end track, Frankfurt. Maybe he can play that Julian Alvarez role around Erling Haaland, but I still think Haaland is at his best when he's up front, on his own.

34:57He's the sole target man and there are no distractions around him. I think Omar Mahmoud is far too talented to just kind of be a bit part player for Manchester City. Is he? I do. You think he's far too talented? I do. I think what you saw at Eintracht Frankfurt, he's too talented. Now, again... We've seen a number of strikers come over from the Bundesliga who were good in the Bundesliga. I'm not saying that he slots into Arsenal or Barcelona or Real Madrid, but there are very good options around that that I think Mahmoud graces. And you play. I am all for playing as opposed to while City maybe have a very successful season if you only feature in 20 % of those games.

35:43I don't think it's that rewarding. Well, I think as soon as he found out Pep was leaving, then he pepped up. And he would think, before that he was thinking, well, I'm wasting my time here. Because he was wasting his time here under Pep. Because he wasn't playing. Right? So what, Enzo is going to dump Haaland and start him? No. Look at his wee smarty pants. You've got his wee smarty pants face on. You're trying to... Oh, you're still the bench. You know what? You did it 10 seconds ago with Shaq. When he was talking, you were giving it all that. You sat back in your tune. You give it the old face.

36:19No, if you're Mamoosh, under Pat, you know you're not playing, right? You know you're not playing in a round-up or any of that stuff. You're not playing in one of the white guys. Right. So you're going out the door. As soon as you find out he's gone and Marissa's coming in, exactly what Frank said. all of a sudden it's like, well, you know what? I'll wait and see how we're going to play. Because maybe I can play in and around him. Maybe Mariska might want me to be one of those, not a wide guy, but somewhere in between. So his whole attitude would change. Do you want to be that player if you see yourself as a striker?

36:52I don't believe that Mamouche came to Manchester City thinking that his task was to oust Haaland. I think he came to Manchester City and said, how do I play with this guy? Where am I going to play? How am I going to fit in? That's exactly what he was thinking which he was absolutely squashed under Pep after a very short period of time. He's doing it again. But now under Mureska he's going to wait and see. See what happens. See what happens in pre-season. There's no Haaland. Maybe I can take a claim somewhere. And then when the season starts he will know very soon where his position is in terms of whether he's going to play or not.

37:28Where do you think his position will be? His position will be After about three months He'll be getting ready To go on the transfer Less than January Right But I'm just telling you That Marmush is thinking When Mareska comes in Right It's completely different Than it would be Under Pep But his situation won't change It depends how they set up Depends how they play You said he'll be on the transfer list In the winter If he's not playing Well you said he's not going to play If he's not playing Right

37:59Stop No, he's definitely playing that. Well, I asked you what a situation would be in three months' time. I just explained it to you. I just explained it. It's going to be exactly the same. Despite all of your waffles, it's going to be the same thing. I just explained to you that he'll see what happens, whether he's going to play off of and maybe one of the other things. I don't personally think he will. Well, there we are, then. That wasn't what I was telling you. I was talking about Mamusha's mental state. Let me see him. Let me see this. Don't go for it. You're too busy trying to be clever.

38:28Let me just see it. He's too busy trying to be clever. He's not interested. His show has been off for a couple of weeks. I've been off for another week on top of that. Nothing's changed. Nothing has changed. We're going to be here 50 years. Hanging on. Can you go on another cruise or something? Shaq, take him away with you somewhere. I'm not leaving you to have it. We are less than a week away now for the curtain raiser of the Premier League season. Ask them against Man City. Mamouche likely to start. What an impact he can have. We'll be with you 10 a.m. Eastern Live on ESPN and ESPN+.

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41:21Should we just go to the quote? I'm quite intrigued to see what they say. Oh, there is no quote. That's very good. Just give us a quote, Frank. Why don't you just give us a quote? Kill two birds in one stone. I thought it was interesting, Frank, the quote that obviously has been binned with Xavi Alonso talking about Lavia and he hasn't played 90 minutes for such a long time. And Xavi Alonso made the point for him to get over that kind of mental block that he wanted to make sure that he played 90 minutes, which he did so and it said that he's tired but it was important for him to do that and just take me into the psychology of that a little bit I don't know what to think about that you know a player is afraid of playing 90 minutes so that's the first time I hear that in my life so well he got injured a lot so maybe he needs some his confidence back and it's a good thing that he could do that 90 minutes but that's only a normal thing to happen you are a football player you have to expect to play a lot of 90 minutes even more with the extra time so uh lavia should better be ready for that if he wants to be part of the of the of the team and the first 11 and it's a good thing that xabi anonzo showed him that it's possible for him to play 90 minutes without being injured so that's the only thing matters and maybe he's tired but maybe you need those kind of games to get your your your sharpness back and your confidence back.

42:54Is it me Shaq? Why is Alonso saying that? You know I'm... Why does Alonso have to say that? I'm a little sympathetic here in that I liken this to... La Vie has suffered a lot of injuries and struggled to deal with it. it's it's like you you hear it all the time you're coming back from a bad knee injury and it's until you get that first challenge right you play within yourself until you get that first challenge and you know hold on i can i can do this and and it's fine i can stand up to the rigors and then all of a sudden things just fall into place psychologically most importantly and i i see this along those same lines given the injuries and the injury history that labia has had to endure he just needs to get that first challenge, that 90 minutes.

43:41And then once you get that and you feel, yes, I can do it. Because psychologically, that last 20 minutes, you're starting to think, maybe I'm going to hurt myself. Exactly. And, you know, sometimes you play in a game and you get to 80 minutes and you get injured and you think, why didn't he take me off on 70 minutes? If he took me off on 70, I'd be fine. And those things get into the back of your head, especially when you've had a long run of injuries and an injury history like Lavia has. so I this is why I say I'm sympathetic I see that along those same lines which we all talk about and maybe between Frank and Stevie have actually had to deal with themselves yeah I get that bit I get the psychology of it for the player but I don't understand why the manager's coming out and saying that because particularly today with social media you know what fans are like you know if he's getting substituted in the first couple of games after like 70 minutes all of a sudden it's going to be oh he can't play now minutes.

44:39People are going to jump on it. And Alonso's not looking after a player by coming out and saying something like that. I mean, all he's got to do is, it's great for him to get 90 minutes under his belt. It's along the same lines of what Mourinho did earlier on in the show. You don't have to see these things. You can go up to the player and go, you know what, now you know you can do it, and then walk away and leave it. And then that's him. But you don't go, why are you going to tell everybody, telling fans that, oh, he's got a psychological block that he can't play 90 minutes. Well, because if Xhaka says maybe fans will have empathy towards that.

45:14And moving forward... That is true. Absolutely, that could be the case. But the problem is if he goes out and plays 90 minutes for the next 12 months, nobody's going to say a word. But I'll tell you what, when he starts getting taken off after 70, first cut two or three games, whether he's injured or whether he's done or whatever, then... You're saying it's opened a door that didn't necessarily... It's absolutely opened the door. Man, he's just kicking his mouth shut. You don't have to tell anybody anything unless you want them to know something. Extra time will be available on YouTube. We'll be staying late to answer your questions.

45:47Be sure to check that out. That was Stevie's special tie yesterday. Very nice. I think unique would be the word. I don't know.

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46:50Have you seen this, Stevie? Hi. Poor guy. Oh my goodness. So, lovely goal.

47:00Ready? Goes to celebrate. Oh no. and the goal was disallowed. He was offside and then he was substituted. Absolute shocker. I was close to doing that once, you know. Oh, wow. Yeah. Meanwhile, this is in Uruguay. Look at this for a stray shot. The ball's played out. And look at this. The bouncing ball causes ruptures. The car stops. Oh, damn. No, look! Oh dear. Oh boy. Oh, there we are. Good luck experimenting at Sean's company. Well, there's a footballer bouncing down the highway. At least you've got video evidence of it. When did you nearly fall down a hole in the ground? Benfica away. Yeah? Yeah, it was like 82, 83.

47:59The old stadium. I was chasing the ball, actually. and I just jumped over the board and it had one of those moats. No, no. When you go down to the changing room. Oh, right. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And I just noticed it in time and I got my feet before the hole and then I sprung over the gap. I could see him on the bench looking at me going, what's he doing? Yes, I am. Look at that. Quick thinking. I didn't see it. I just jumped over the board and then I was like... I think that'd be a good way to see that right now. That brings us to the end of today's show. Frank LaBeouf returns, Shaka Hislop and Stephen Nichol as well to answer your questions on Extra Time.

48:44Welcome in to the latest edition of Extra Time. Frank LaBeouf joins us. Hello, Frank. Stevie Nichol is here as well. And boys, can we all join in a round of applause for the one, the only Shaka Hislop is back. Shaka, hero of the week, Hislop. There he is! You won the match at once. Wow! You got a hero ball and everything. And you didn't collapse! Fantastic! That's always good news! Silverlight, they get anywhere! Win-win everywhere! What was your role as hero of the match? So, New England Revolution, I was at New England Revolutions game against Atlanta. New England Revolution support my foundation where I gave back equipment to Trantobago.

49:28They gave me equipment earlier in the year. They did a drive during the course of this game. I'll gather all this. I'll ship it out to Toronto, to Bego. As soon as things settle for me, and I get to go back home and give out to kids in need. Yeah, this is very cool. Shaka does this every year. You go around not only New England, pretty much all the New England states share to get equipment. I say that. I've got a lot of friends who now support me. I've got a friend in California who sends equipment. We've got a couple of friends in Florida who collect equipment and we ship down for, as I say, kids in need we support.

50:05They're trying to be a good police service and their community programs. I love it. I really do. It's humbling and rewarding at the same time. You really are a hero, Sean. Very much deserving of that. Thank you. Thank you, Dad. Stevie, you done much? Sorry?

50:28First question, Shaka returns, how was your nap, Shaka? I did not nap. I haven't seen you since. Did you fall asleep at another World Cup final? No, no, I didn't. No, I didn't. No. We were here for that. Yes. And ever since the World Cup final, I was excited. You've moved house, Shaka. You've actually moved closer to the studio. Well, first of all, I moved my daughter back into college where she's at. we moved house then two days later moved my son into college it has been non-stop wow so you've got two kids in college now yeah nice again what a hero playing for that people looking for some more than 10 every time I've got two kids in college Frank how's your weekend been?

51:11you had a lovely time? yeah very good time we've been cycling with my lovely wife around the place that we are in, in Normandy, and swimming pool, enjoying the sun, it's sunny, and I'm going to go to the beach very soon, which is only 40 minutes away. We're having a great time. It's so much holiday. It's midnight. What, were you finished here? It's midnight in France, isn't it? Yeah, it's midnight, yeah. Do you go night swimming in the sea? You're going skinny, Dippon. No, no, I'm going to go in some days to the beach, you know. It's been 40 minutes away from here. Now we're just enjoying our time.

51:58It's holidays, except that I have to work with you guys, which is also a pleasure. Oh, well, bloomin' heck. Good life, aren't you? You're trying to pay for college as well. Should leagues move the transfer deadline to before the season starts so teams begin the season with their squads finalised? Surely that seems like a no-brainer. I don't understand. I still don't understand the reason why it is the way it is. Because that makes absolutely zero sense to anybody. What about the fact that some leagues start before and others start after? Let's say England is dead middle. You have to manage all that at the same time.

52:41But all the leagues are well underway when the transfer deadline is... September the 1st. That's fine. So you change the majority for the minority. What I'm saying is, so for instance, so for instance, Germany starts a week after England, you know, why do they have to have a close a week before they start the season? Well then stop it when the German league starts. Yeah, they can do for the extra week. But then that's after England. You can get a couple of little exceptions. So moving to the end of August, there's only two games. But it only one game though. Yeah but what's one more game between friends?

53:22Ajax's Mika Gotts was named in the starting 11. Now Eredivisie started this weekend, you can see it live on ESPN, but was scratched minutes before kickoff and confirmed a possible move to PSG after the game. How would that have gone down in the locker room, Stevie?

53:41Well, I don't know the player, I'll be honest. But if he's your best player, or one of your best players, then it certainly becomes a big problem for that day. But I think anybody who plays in Holland, they don't have a problem when they see the teammates moving. But when it's the day of a game, and again, depending on who it is. Minutes before the kickoff, Steven. Yeah. He was warming up and everything. Yeah, I don't... I don't... Yeah. I don't think too many of you are that bothered. No. Not really. No. I don't think players are bothered about that at all. Just get on with it. Right. All right, it's 1-2-0.

54:20That's exactly what they did. There you go. See? Frank, which of these four... Well, you know what? You know what, Dan? Dan, sorry about that. You know? Different situation, but it happened to me when I was playing for Strasbourg, where we played in Monaco, away from home, and we lost that game and Martin Jetu who played with us, played after for for Monaco and was a great defender, he was on the coach after the game with us and suddenly the coach called him and he went out and he signed for Monaco and we didn't see him anymore and I wouldn't say he affected us but I said wow that's a big change because Martin was a great player and a young player and I thought he would stay but it can affect the dressing room especially when you lose the game and the better team pick get somebody on top of it so that was that was something strange I would say.

55:18I thought I thought Frank was going to talk about the World Cup final again you know because you know he's like always banging on about Ronaldo and the World Cup final I thought that's what he's going to talk about. Frank which of these? You don't know me very well Mr. Shakai Sloth you know. Frank, which of these former teammates have you? Right, right. Zola, Genoa or Petit? Who had the most ability with the ball? Oh, I know.

55:48Oh, my God. I would say David Genoa was the most skillful player I saw playing. But Gianfranco Zola was more complete. putting Emmanuel Petit with those two guys is quite unfair because I was in the same positioning. Emmanuel Petit was the best at defending let's say and giving the first pass to the attack so Emmanuel Petit was indispensable for me in the middle of the park for Arsenal or for Monaco before, Barcelona after and for France for sure. I would say that the guy who impressed me the most was Gianfranco and maybe Xhaka can witness that. I'd agree. So, strictly as the question is worded, it's David Geno.

56:39On the ball, going forward, at times he was just unplayable, including at Newcastle. But in terms of, Frank usually description of complete, passing the ball, range of passing, free kicks, dead ball situation. Listen, Gianfranco Zola is one of the best the Premier League has seen in those aspects. Do you want anything, Stevie? No, that's good. Shaka, are you looking forward to the Dockers derby? Millwall against West Ham this season, considering it hasn't been played in 14 years. Do you have any notable memories from playing in it yourself? No, I did not. I did not play against Millwall in my years at West Ham.

57:21Thankfully, I would not. Don did, didn't he? Because Don played for West Ham, went to Millwall. He said it was the biggest mistake of his life. because everybody hates him. Yeah. Which is quite funny for us. I was about to say, you don't have to be a Millwall fan to hate dogs. It kind of comes with being a football fan. Don's family have gone to Legoland, but he hasn't gone because he's had to stay home and look after the dog. That was his excuse so he could go and play golf at Wentworth. Okay. Dog is Darby. Should we send you Shaq? Would you like to go? No, no. I'm good at that. No? No. All right.

57:56Wonderful to have you back, Shaqa. Thank you, Dan. That was wonderful. Lovely. Stevie? Thank you, Dan. It's good to know that nothing has changed. Frank, have a lovely night swim at the beach. Have a great time there. Yeah, sure. ESPN FC returns tomorrow as we continue. Are you here tomorrow? Yes, I am. We're back tomorrow again. Are you, Shaq? I'm on Football America tomorrow. Football America, Shaq. Yeah. Wow. We need to be using it. Double dip, isn't it? You have to pay those college funds now. I'm off tomorrow. Of course, yeah. Oh, well, we're making some sensible questions tomorrow, Chuck.

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