Man City in Real Trouble

23:21Pep Guardiola:Yeah, well, Jan's been on the phone and said it's everybody else's fault. Yeah, exactly. You know, just briefly, the other thing is, let's not forget, this City side, and I think Jürgen said they were kind of thankful to go back to Manchester, just been three, particularly with the penalty miss. I mean, you don't know how a game's going to go, but you would imagine with that kind of space, they're thankful there wasn't a fit Kylian Mbappe. Absolutely. Because that could have been a bloodbath for them, leaving that kind of space for Mbappé to run into. So, in some sense, the cards fell their way in the end because it was almost a sort of Tottenham-esque performance from last night.

24:00Pep Guardiola:I don't know how bad it was. Yeah, that's not good.

24:02Jurgen Klinsmann:So, Alvaro Abonoha could lead Real Madrid to the double. They are, of course, still very much in the title race. You can see how that plays out this weekend. Real Madrid first to strike as they take on Elche and then it's Barcelona against Sevilla on the Sunday. all these games live on ESPN+. Save money and get a better view of the road when you replace your worn-out wiper blades at O 'Reilly Auto Parts. Right now, save$10 on a pair of Rain-X Latitude wiper blades. They feature beam blade technology to improve windshield contact for maximum visibility. The professional parts people will even install your new wiper blades for free.

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25:59Jurgen Klinsmann:PSG taking on Chelsea. Chelsea, arguably the better side in the first half. It would be 2-2 when a huge mistake from Jorgensen would take place about 15 minutes ago. Vettinia makes the most of it to make it 3-2. And from that moment on, Chelsea collapse. Kamal Scalier excellent coming off the bench, meaning that PSG now have a 5-2 advantage going into the second leg. Jürgen, was this about Chelsea losing it in the 15 minutes or PSG applying the pressure, the experience that they've had obviously from winning the title last year? Well I give the credit to PSG at the end. They're so determined, so crucial with their chances that they had obviously Kras Scalier's two goals.

26:40Jurgen Klinsmann:You know they make it now a three goal lead. I don't think that three goals really kind of describe that game the right way. I think Chelsea was throughout the first hour, certainly even, you know, it was a good game, it was an open game, they went to each other, so we saw quite a few opportunities on both sides. But 5-2, obviously, it's a heavy result. It's again, like Real Madrid too, it's a three goal advantage now that you go back to London. still somehow doable but you know minimal chances and they were similar to to the other game but it's it's impressive what what PSG can do when they bring certain players like Varaskelia from the bench they have so much quality and and also how they executed you know they won all the other chances I mean Dembélé's goal fantastic you know everybody thought he's gonna pass it over and then he says no I don't do that myself you know finish it off and then Vitinha's goal I mean if you look at it and says okay I mean he's basically scored this goal like he would be playing street soccer yeah it was you know cut the ball and then saw the goalies out off the line so I just chip it over I mean this is this is Champions League this is now crunch time and he comes up with a move like that it's it's fantastic but now obviously we are in in the most exciting time of of the year with March and the April games, you know, now round of 16.

28:04Jurgen Klinsmann:And this is what it really comes down to. And we saw some fantastic goals today.

28:10Pep Guardiola:I mean, was it the Jorgensen mistake was to make it 3-2? Yes. Right, right. Which is you can't sort of legislate for that. Like last night, Tudor couldn't legislate for Kinski's mistake. So you can't legislate for that. But once it happens it's happened and even though you've played relatively well or pretty well away from home you find yourself three two three two down doesn't all right you might be thinking well we've played well we'll get back get back in this game we'll go and try and play again and create some more chances is that the smart thing to do away from home against a side that is dangerous as psg where you you might say to yourself well he's made the mistake it's three two we're away from home that's not a bad result to go back to London with.

28:54Pep Guardiola:Let's just camp in a little bit and make it really difficult for them. And if a chance coughs itself up, then fine. But don't leave yourself open like they were for the goal that went down the right-hand channel for Garvit Skellis that might have been his second, where Jorgensen didn't get down very well. But Chelsea were attacking at that point, and PSG broke down that side, and it was a terrific move. A little flick for the overlap, and then the ball cut back. But don't give them that opportunity. Don't give them the opportunity to get a fourth or a fifth. Because now, I mean, we're talking about City have possibly a smidgen of a chance.

29:31Pep Guardiola:I don't see it for Chelsea. Not against this PSG side. So don't give them the opportunity. Although you've had a decent night, you've played some good football, there's nothing wrong with saying, you know what, we'll take this back to London and we're going to run with it. But they kept playing because that's the way they wanted to do it. but that was the downfall in the end because they got punished and I would be hugely surprised if this tie was overturned. Is this a bit Real Madrid-y?

30:01Jurgen Klinsmann:We've seen PSG struggling in the league, none of their star players shining, and yet it comes to the Champions League night and they up that level. Yeah, I don't know that they up that level as high as Real Madrid did today. In fact, I disagree slightly with Craig in thinking that I believe Chelsea is more likely to turn this around than Manchester City. Oh, really? It's likely to turn around the game against Real Madrid. And the reason I say that is because up until the big mistake from Jorgensen, Chelsea were very much in this picture. You think about how the second goal comes about for PSG.

30:37Jurgen Klinsmann:Cole Palmer has a chance with his left foot inside the 18-yard box. Zafonov comes up with a save and then off the counter. That ball goes in, it changes the story. I thought Chelsea, for long periods of time today, were better than PSG. I do believe that 5-2, and I agree with Jurgen on that, is that 5-2 doesn't really paint a clear picture as to what this game was and how good Chelsea was for long periods of time. Now, where I agree with Craig is that their management of the game late in the match was disorganized at best, but embarrassing to some degree as well. in not understanding what this game requires in the moment.

31:17Jurgen Klinsmann:You cannot allow three to become five as quickly as they did. But in terms of the totality of the game, I thought Chelsea was closer to PSG than Manchester City was to Real Madrid. And I do think that PSG tried to elevate their game, and we're not finding it very easy to do so. And defensively, they can get exposed. The first half, Chelsea had multiple opportunities where if they find the right pass or make the right decision, PSG were very much stretched and very much exposed. Chelsea were unable to take advantage of those chances, much like Dembele was able to take advantage of his opportunity in transition.

31:53Jurgen Klinsmann:And the many times that then PSG got out in transition and ran at Chelsea in the second half, particularly late in the match, they were far better and far efficient than Chelsea.

32:01Pep Guardiola:Jürgen, this game, one of the differences is that you could argue that was one of Chelsea's best performances of the season. and they lost five,

32:13Pep Guardiola:they would have to perform at that level and better again and PSG to have an off night, which could happen. Whereas City, it could go either way. City are a better side than Real Madrid. Not tonight they were, but they are a better side. They just had a shocking night. Absolutely shocking night. But they are a better side. So where I would come from was,

32:41Pep Guardiola:City can be a lot better in the second leg and that's what I think gives them a little chance. I mean, they could go either way, either of them. But my worry for Chelsea is they've played a damn good game tonight and lost five goals. City have had an absolute shocker. They should have lost more than three but did lose three. So I think their room for manoeuvring getting better is a lot more. Particularly at home against this Real Madrid side. But yeah, we'll see. Jürgen, this game was so frantic.

33:11Jurgen Klinsmann:And as Craig says, at 3-2, if you're a senior, how difficult is it then to kind of change everything, put the handbrake on, shut up shop and think, right, OK, we've got 15 minutes. Let's see it out. 3-2 isn't the worst score in the world to take back to Stamford Bridge. Yeah, there are two pieces to it. How the players react. And there you rely on experience on the players to say, you know, calm me down now. Let's keep the 3-2 for right now and see. Maybe you get still an opportunity to equalize, but let's make sure that we are not conceding another goal. Then the other side is then, as a coaching staff, these are the worst games when you go back into your office, basically, the next day after probably a sleepless night, where you admit to yourself to say, what did I do wrong now that we conceded another two goals?

34:01Jurgen Klinsmann:because once that third goal comes from Vitinha, you just have to make sure that shut it down. Let's just shut it down. But obviously, when it goes a different way, these are the moments where you as a manager, as a coach, you're going to blame yourself for that next couple of minutes, 10, 15 minutes, when you concede two more goals. Jules will then be absolutely delighted with that result and you can hear more from him alongside Gab, of course, on the latest edition of the Gab and Jules podcast. that drops on Thursday.

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35:38Jurgen Klinsmann:Arsenal won in the early game of the Champions League. Not particularly memorable, considering what we've seen elsewhere today. But in the end, it was a late Kai Havertz penalty, which means it finishes 1-1. Arsenal the favourites going into the second leg. You ain't still with us.

35:53Pep Guardiola:This wasn't great fun, was it, Craig? Well, that's Jürgen. What do you mean, Arske? This is such an exciting game. I know Jürgen will die to talk about it.

36:04Jurgen Klinsmann:I'm such an Arsenal specialist. Yeah, yeah, exactly.

36:09Pep Guardiola:Go on, Jürgen.

36:10Jurgen Klinsmann:It's a missed opportunity for Leverkusen. It was really a missed opportunity because I think Arsenal today was not the Arsenal we were used to over the last months and what they showed in the Champions League and in the Premier League so far this season. So there was a huge opportunity for Leverkusen to win this game. You give away then, I mean, it was a very, very soft penalty. You know, he gave that penalty. I wouldn't have given it. But by the moment you go down to a tackling, you risk something. You know, and that was stupid to go down into a tackling in the box. Because if you don't play the ball, which he didn't, he didn't get any close to the ball, then you might touch the other player, the striker.

36:51Jurgen Klinsmann:So you risk it. So you give away that 1-0 lead. You know, that's not a bad result going then to London and gives you a better chance. But yeah, it was unfortunate. Then obviously that's the typical German story. Then Havertz, you know, steps up. He just came on and he scores against the club that he played 10 years for. So that's the side story to it. But I thought, you know, Bayer Leverkusen should have won that game.

37:19Pep Guardiola:I'm just looking for a spark from Arsenal at the moment. Something.

37:23Jurgen Klinsmann:The problem is they've got used to grinding results out in the Premier League, which we've talked about a lot and there's no problem, and they're going to win the league as a result of it. When it comes to trying to find that spark, up the gear, do something special against opposition that aren't as easy to predict as maybe others,

37:39Pep Guardiola:that they can't find it. It's all a bit safe from Rice and Zubimendi at the moment. Eze was flat, Saka's been poor, Xhoceres just working in light. and yeah, they're still going to be tough to beat, but they are... And I know they haven't been great recently to watch, and they can be good to watch. They can be. But the spark has gone from them. Now, they may crawl over the line in several competitions. Still, I don't know. But I'm just looking. Look at the pace of Bayern Munich last night. Look at the way they transitioned. Look at how clinical they were. Look at the passing and the runners and the wide players and the finishing.

38:19Pep Guardiola:All that stuff, they just smashed Atalanta. It was like men against boys. And as Jürgen said, they gave a Leverkusen side that haven't been brilliant this season. They sacked Ten Hag after two games. The Danish guy comes in. They're a decent side, but they're not really a threat in this competition. And yet, they really should be taking a lead to the Emirates. It just feels like Arsenal are just doing enough. Enough to take a result back to the Emirates. enough to get another three points in the Premier League and I just feel they're better than that. Now I don't expect them to entertain every time they go out.

38:54Pep Guardiola:That's not their job. But it might cost them. And I do expect them to put Leverkusen out in the second leg. But if they play a Bayern or a Real Madrid, PSG, whoever it is, and they're thinking they can just flick the switch and then go again. It's not like that. You have to build that momentum up. And I feel some of the key players have lost that momentum, and particularly Bakayasaka, who's been a talisman for them. Odegaard is injured again. We've talked a lot about Eze. I think Declan Rice, he looks to me as if he's getting deeper and deeper. Zubin Mendy, he's a kind of square passing guy. So it's a little flat from Arsenal at the moment, and I think they need to find a spark in their game to almost pick up the final part of the season and get a bit of pace about the game and a bit of dynamism about the game, which I think is gone in the last, what, at least a couple of months.

39:54Pep Guardiola:Although they are still top of the league and they're still one of the favourites. But there's not a lot to like about the way they're playing at the moment.

40:01Jurgen Klinsmann:For context, just so that we have a very clear idea and thought as to what Bayer Leverkusen have been this season. You just mentioned Bayern Munich. They're 22 points behind Bayern Munich. They're sitting sixth in Bundesliga. And it's a team that if you look at who's on the field right now and compare that to the glory year with Xavi Alonso, most of their stars from that team are spread all over Europe. So think of Verz and Fringpont and Granit Xhaka and this guy and this. They're not here. This is a sort of team that has been put together and have been impressive in the sense that they've been able to make this run in Champions League.

40:38Jurgen Klinsmann:But they haven't been consistent enough in Bundesliga. and more times than not, when they get pushed in Bundesliga from the elite teams, from the better teams, top end teams in that league, they come up short. This is not a great Bayer Leverkusen team. So that's one side of the conversation. The other side of the conversation is TV directors tend to focus on certain players out on the field as they're doing the TV coverage and they break to that player to follow a storyline coming into the match. Well, apparently when it comes to protagonists and Arsenal, is the set-piece coach. They break to this guy all the time.

41:15Jurgen Klinsmann:And honestly, there's nothing wrong with doing that because when you look for protagonists on the field, guys that have that dynamic movement that Craig is talking about, the penetrating pass, the running behind, it's not happening. And so where is the goal going to come from? Then that's why they show the set-piece coach. He tends to be far more of an important figure when you're covering an Arsenal match than the players out on the field. He seems to be more interesting than those guys out there. And that's because the performances do not have any spark. They don't have any creativity. They don't have anything that you go, man, that was good.

41:51Jurgen Klinsmann:And if you contrast it to what you just mentioned there, Bayern Munich, you go, yeah, how is this team better than that? Now, Arsenal fans would say, well, in the league phase, Arsenal beat Bayern Munich. I'm telling you where they are right now you cannot objectively say that Arsenal are better than Bayern Munich comparing the performances that we have seen over the last 48 hours

42:15Pep Guardiola:if you don't think momentum and taking that confidence of playing well and playing at a pace and really strangling a team and getting a stranglehold in a game which I felt Arsenal were going to do today I thought this is the perfect game for them again like the game in Italy last night you just throttle the opposition with your quality. And I thought, well, this is a perfect opportunity for Arsenal to go and do that. The second game, make some changes at the Emirates, rest some players. But they don't have that luxury because of this performance. In recent performances, results have been okay, but performances.

42:51But if you want to look at what momentum does,

42:55Pep Guardiola:you've only got to look at PSG's second half of the year, last year. The momentum they had in performance from Christmas to the end of the season was incredible. And they were averaging the Champions League. They barely scraped out of this big 36-team league into the knockout stages. And then domestically, they picked it up. They were just battering teams. And then everybody that came their way in the Champions League, they were just getting better and better and better and better until it got to the final game and they walloped in to buy five goals. That's momentum. them. The big question with this Arsenal team is can they find that again in their performance?

43:36Pep Guardiola:I do agree. I think that switch from the Bayern to the Arsenal game has turned. I think they're not without their imperfections, Bayern Munich, but they have a bit of pace about the game, they've got a lot of quality about the game. They've got a superstar. Like, Elisa obviously was fantastic

43:55Jurgen Klinsmann:yesterday.

43:55Pep Guardiola:Who's Arsenal's superstar?

43:57Jurgen Klinsmann:Your man on the bench telling me he wants to do a corners?

43:59Pep Guardiola:I mean, they've got a manager that they believe in, in terms of the way they want to play.

44:04Jurgen Klinsmann:Jürgen, we've just seen the odds here, Arsenal are still favourites. I just want to go back to what Craig said about Arsenal switching that switch when they need to. Is there something that's happened on a week-to-week basis as a coach? Is it difficult to find that extra spark when really for the last couple of months you've just been telling your team about getting a result?

44:26Jurgen Klinsmann:Well, it's more looking into different phases throughout the season, throughout the year. You have your ups and downs and every team has that. But the big teams and the big players, they kind of know how to time it. When to peak towards the end, like now, March, April, that's the time to peak. And so they may be in October, November, you don't see much of them and they make stupid mistakes or they're a bit sloppy in what they're doing. But then, you know, once, you know, you get into the new year and February passes by and now it's crunch time. And this is where you look very, very carefully about your leaders in your team.

45:11Jurgen Klinsmann:You know, the ones that have raised their voice in the locker room. Your coaching staff is on high alert. You know, you had enough time now as a coaching staff to observe all your opponents that you deal with, if it's internationally or nationally. And you know their strengths weaknesses. And maybe here and there you copy something and paste it into your program. So what I really liked on that game today was Bayer-Louis Leverkusen used Arsenal's corner kick variation and scored on them. I love that. I love that because we all throughout the year talked about the fantastic corner kicks from Arsenal, that they are almost unstoppable with it.

45:48Jurgen Klinsmann:And now their opponent did it because they watched it long enough now. So it is about having the right timing, having the momentum. I mean, you don't do it purposely because you are used to go from game to game to game and you always try your best. But you go through those phases and you hope that towards the end of the season And then when it really, really matters, like now, March, April, that you peak. And then obviously you keep peaking, hopefully, into the World Cup. Of course, one negative from that win from Bayern against Atalanta was Alphonso Davies coming off in tears. Results apparently suffered a strain of the posterior thigh muscle, which means, which I believe it's your hamstring in layman's terms.

46:35Jurgen Klinsmann:He's going to be out for a few games, according to Vincent Kompany. And of course, his absence would be a massive impact on what goes on at Canada. He won't be available then for the clash against Bayer Leverkusen on Sunday, on Saturday, sorry, that you can see on ESPN+. The Bodo Glint fairy tale continues. 3-0 was their victory against Sporting to put them very much in the driving seat, going into that second leg in Portugal next week. Watching someone close go through loss really changes your perspective. You see how quickly grief can turn into financial stress, and it's something no family should have to deal with during an already difficult time.

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49:32Pep Guardiola:Who would go to a Tottenham bar to watch this? All the way to New York with all your friends. All the way to New York, he's not got any friends.

49:41Jurgen Klinsmann:Jürgen Klitschmann is with us, as opposed to our passive-aggressive ways against our producer. The big question, obviously Jürgen, we discussed it yesterday, would you have done what Tudor did?

49:54Jurgen Klinsmann:well I think if you ask him today and he reflects about you know this isn't making before the game obviously to play him then obviously to sub him out after 17 minutes he would rethink the whole situation you know it's it's obviously it's it's it's a killer for for the kid it's uh it's the worst I think you know that could a goalkeeper go through you know and I feel a feel for the kid you know, because my own son is a goalkeeper and I hope he never gets a moment like that. You know, he will obviously make mistakes and he will make similar mistakes like Kinski did there. But obviously then get pulled off after 17 minutes in a game, a sold out crowd in Madrid, 68 ,000.

50:37Jurgen Klinsmann:Because you have these blackouts, these two blackouts basically is simply brutal. It's brutal. So I think we all felt for the boy. And obviously, you're on the ground, you get back up and you get going. But this is a massive shocker for a young player like him. I just want to ask about Tudor's decision, Jürgen, in the first place. To play him ahead of Vicario. As you said, this is a 22-year-old who's never experienced the Champions League before. Hasn't played since October in the Carabao Cup. But a lot of this has to fall at Tudor's feet, doesn't it? Well, you know, he's the only one that sees the kid in the training sessions.

51:21Jurgen Klinsmann:And he sees also Vicario, obviously, in the training session. He feels, you know, the understanding that he has with his teammates, with the back line, and he tries things out. So, I mean, he's not putting him in not being convinced that he can't do the job. You know, I mean, he was convinced before the game that he can do the job. And it was just too much for the kid in that moment, you know. I mean, there are always arguments, you know, when is it time for a young goalkeeper to come in, to step in? You know, some is like, for example, in Italy, they don't give players really a chance very, very early.

51:52Jurgen Klinsmann:They say they have to get experience somehow. And then you have other countries like maybe in Germany or in the Premier League where they say, you know, you throw him in the cold water and he has to swim. And that's what happened there. He threw him in the cold water. And in that moment, the water was too cold. So he made those two huge, huge mistakes. And then the other story to discuss certainly is then, you know, how do you react to it? Just drag it out until halftime, you know, maybe then you can talk to him. And then you explain to him that you will sub him off and bring back Vicari in that moment.

52:25Jurgen Klinsmann:He decided to do it after 17 minutes. And that's a huge punishment for a young kid like him.

52:31Pep Guardiola:It's a big story. No, I rephrase that. It was a story because it was unusual to see that. And it is. However, there is a huge... There is such a bigger picture here for Spurs. First thing first, two doors of dead man walking. He's had four games, he's had four defeats. I saw today, one of the status boys said, in those four games, they've only been leading for five minutes of a game. So that's the first thing. And the second thing is, and obviously Jürgen's a former Tottenham player, The sort of laughing about relegation has gone now. You know, nah, it won't be us. Nah, you know, six weeks ago, nah, it won't be us.

53:20Pep Guardiola:You know, look at Burnley, look at West Ham, look at Forest, look at Leeds. That's gone. So all this Kinski scuff, it was the story of the day. And, you know, should he have done it, should he not have done it. I think if you're a Tottenham fan, or if you're a fan of the other teams that are in a relegation battle, At the moment, with their mentality and who is coaching their team, it is more than feasible they could go. And I mean that. They could go. Because I'm unsure they have the fighting qualities. They've got better players than the other teams down there. We're not seeing it, but they have better players in terms of talent level.

54:00Pep Guardiola:But they don't have the fighting quality to get out of an ugly, pressurised relegation battle. that you just have to roll your sleeves up and get a result any way you can. They don't have that and they don't have the manager for it and they're not going to come back against Atleti. The whole thing at Spurs, from behind the scenes to the managerial appointments to the performances, unfortunately for them, they have one of the great stadiums, but the rest of it is a shambles, an utter shambles.

54:36Jurgen Klinsmann:Jürgen, obviously the speculation about who's going to take over from Igor Tudor, suggestions is that he will still be in charge for the press conference ahead on Friday. Who would you choose at the moment to come in? Well, whoever you choose, what you need is you need a person that can connect to everyone emotionally, that knows the club, that feels the club, that feels the people. because to get out of this mess, they need to develop a fighting spirit, a really nasty, ugly fighting spirit. And that goes only over the emotions. So you don't need to have to bring in the mastermind of tactical stuff or whatever.

55:17Jurgen Klinsmann:You need to have somebody there that really gets everybody on board and go and get these games now done in a positive way and gets everybody behind the whole fact that they are in danger going down to the championship. So no matter who you put in charge now, it goes only over the emotions, over the willingness to suffer and to fight and to be ready to maybe take the ball away from some ball boys on the sidelines like you saw today. Jürgen, I heard that you were off for the job but wanted to stay here talking to us about Milky Ways and Curly Whirlies. Yes. Exactly. We're talking about chocolate.

55:59Exactly.

56:00Pep Guardiola:We did have a chocolate discussion before we come on the show. You hopped off with your little bit of a sugar intake.

56:07Jurgen Klinsmann:Jürgen, would you want the job if they offered it to you? Huh? Who wouldn't want the job? There you go. There it is. Beautiful. Thank you very much, Jürgen.

56:17Pep Guardiola:You got my vote. I'll take Stevie with you. Klinsman, Nicol, Burley touchline. What a treat for everybody.

56:27Jurgen Klinsmann:Thank you very much, Jürgen. Just a reminder, plenty more stuff on the Champions League over on our YouTube channel. Be sure to go to ESPN FC and subscribe. That brings us to the end of the Today Show. Be sure to stay tuned for Extra Time.

56:45Jurgen Klinsmann:Welcome in to the latest edition of Extra Time. Thank you very much for all your questions. When did the clocks change? Two weeks in England. I suppose that's what you're referring to because you're having to be later than normal.

56:56Pep Guardiola:Yeah. Which puts you... Well, you know, some of us need beauty sleep. Yes, yes. More than others. Yep. Well, very late for me.

57:02Jurgen Klinsmann:Craig, six Premier League teams qualified for the current round of the Champions League, but none of them won. Will all the physicality and intensity of the Premier League work against them at this stage of the season?

57:13Pep Guardiola:No. They just have to be better. Right. Without getting into this discussion again, you know I don't think... I disagree with some others on this show that the Premier League is particularly strong. I don't think it is. I think Arsenal can be very... I've always felt when Arsenal apart, who haven't played well recently and didn't play well today, when the rest of them came up against better teams, although I was surprised by City's performance, that the Premier League teams would struggle. Because I just think underneath the underbelly of the Premier League, although Chelsea played reasonably well, but lost five, I think the underbelly of the Premier League isn't particularly strong.

57:53Pep Guardiola:I don't think the physicality has gone against them. I think they just played some really poor games and made some really bad decisions. And that's why Chelsea, but particularly Man City, are in a pickle going into the second leg. And Liverpool just haven't been great all year. And that's why they lost to Galatasaray. So which Premier League teams are going through? Newcastle or Barcelona? No, I think Mast are going to go through. Real Madrid or Manchester City? I think Real Madrid are going to go through. PSG? I think it could be Arsenal could be the only one to go through. Wow. Well, possibly Liverpool.

58:27Pep Guardiola:Wow. I think so.

58:29Jurgen Klinsmann:Ali, Pedro Valverde. That's 1A and 1B right there. Yep. That's apples and oranges. Yeah, it is, but I love them. I love them both. But you've got to pick one first.

58:42Pep Guardiola:Okay. Who are you picking first? Oh, first? Yes. They were booing Valverde recently at the Burn the Battle. Were they? Yeah. North, North, North East, Madrid.

58:55Jurgen Klinsmann:Pedri? Oh, Valverde. Pedri, but it's tight. Considering Manchester City spending over the last two seasons, how big a blow would finishing the season trophy-less be?

59:10Pep Guardiola:I think it'd be a big blow. Spent again in January with Mark Gay and Semenyo. Really, shouldn't be any excuses. have an unbelievable have a big squad no matter what he says do you remember last year though ah squad's too big yes well like having a big squad I've got to tell players they're not playing yeah and then he had injuries and he's going well I've got injuries what is a guy he doesn't know let's be honest he knows he's leaving in the summer and he's probably going to leave empty handed I would think so so yeah they didn't address the full back areas in this in this transfer window summer transfer window and that was a huge mistake, huge mistake that you went into a season with Nico O 'Reilly and Mateus Nunes playing as your full backs going up against the elite of Europe.

1:00:00Pep Guardiola:That's poor recruitment.

1:00:02Jurgen Klinsmann:How did it feel Ali when the team worked so hard against superior opposition but then the goalkeeper gives them a goal and throws the game away asking for a friend who might be a Chelsea supporter? Yeah, I think you were seeing that reaction from Enzo Fernandes, who there was a sequence of play later in the match after they already given up that goal to Vitinha in which Jorgensen tried to play that same sort of pass and ended up being a turnover. But the receiving player from PSG was in an outside position, and that's why the goal didn't count. But it was essentially the same decision. And it's almost as if to say to Jorgen, and this is where I think Enzo Fernandez is coming from, did you not just see what happened in trying to do this thing?

1:00:53Jurgen Klinsmann:Goalkeeper. But it's not just about the goalkeeper. And of course, it's a physical mistake. It's a decision mistake as well from the goalkeeper and the execution of that particular sequence. But it's not just that. It's about what sort of mindset and groundwork does the manager actually put forth and ideas where the goalkeeper feels like he needs to play this ball. Now, it should be on Jorgensen to see the whole field and say, no, no, this is not on, especially when you just made this mistake. I'm just lumping this ball up 60 yards and we'll see what happens over there. And that's on Jorgensen.

1:01:29Jurgen Klinsmann:But I think it's the whole culture, if you will, of now goalkeepers getting too cute and trying to play balls into spaces that they shouldn't. Do you know what my favourite part of today was?

1:01:41Pep Guardiola:And we reached it yet. It's the end, surely. Yeah, this kind of supersedes the end. Although the end is... Okay. It's upon us. My favourite part... It's when we call Jack. So, paint the picture. My favourite part was the game was 4-2 and... Producer Mike and Jack, Jack Patel, they went off to do their job. They're very professional. Have you seen Jack spelling mistakes? Sometimes. Apart from the 300 graphic errors today. That's another. So they went off the pop. See you lads. And then just at that goal went in and we shouted, Jack! And like a couple of clowns, they came running back. Well, particularly Jack.

1:02:19Pep Guardiola:Because somehow in his head thought... Oh, Palmer's score! I thought it was 4-3. I'm running back! Just to see it was 5-2. Oh, I was so happy. Just to see the drain.

1:02:32Jurgen Klinsmann:Okay, three teams lost today, Ali, by three. Who's the better chance of coming back?

1:02:39Jurgen Klinsmann:Chelsea, City or Sporting? Sporting. I'm going to say Chelsea. Oh, Chelsea? Not Sporting? I'm going to say City. Not Sporting? Have you seen Bordeaux-Glund?

1:02:52Pep Guardiola:Oh, wow. Excuse me. Wow. Is there a hearing issue? I see City. What about Sporting?

1:02:57Jurgen Klinsmann:What about Sporting? They would be the favourites, I imagine. Well, they may very well be. You've seen Bordeaux-Glund away from home. Sorry again? You know what Bordeaux-Glund's record? I'm just putting out my stool that I think the book is in my house. Do you want me to tell you what Bordeaux-Glund's record is away from home?

1:03:10Pep Guardiola:Tell me. No, I can't. Good. All right. Thanks.

1:03:12Jurgen Klinsmann:I thought there was breaking news coming. You went away in San Siro. Craig, which team was more undeserving of a draw? Arsenal or Barcelona?

1:03:22Jurgen Klinsmann:Boy.

1:03:24Pep Guardiola:That's a tough one. I mean, there was a sub-story in the Leverkusen game, because Robert Andrick, I mean, he could have been a red card after five minutes, two yellows. But that isn't taken away from how bad Arsenal were, because once that didn't happen, Arsenal were terrible. They were really poor. Barcelona, by their standards, were... Who's luckier to get a draw? I think you'd have to say Arsenal were luckier because the penalty was extremely soft. Okay. As opposed to Barca's penalty.

1:04:05Pep Guardiola:That was a good bit of play from Omo and a bad bit of play from Malik Char. I would say Arsenal. Would you concur? I would concur. That is it. That brings us to the end of today's show. Tomorrow, Craig's got a special tactical breakdown. Yes, he does. Would he offer himself? My phone will be off tomorrow, all day. Don't ring me about analysis. Pete has got so many ideas, don't worry. So many, I'm going to poo-poo.

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