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23:06Three points! Listen, if there was four games to go in the season, I would be talking about doors being open. OK, well, is it open? A window? A crack in the window? No, no. Right now, for everybody, still, it's about figuring out the best 11 and the best way of play. Yeah. And then you kick on and then you take that through the guts of the season and then you come to the end. So right now, we're talking about Sunderland and City getting a lesson. Arsenal got a lesson yesterday that when you're the champions and you come into town, it's different. Regardless of, you know, when the Liverpools and the so-called big teams go to Sunderland or Hull or anywhere or Brighton, the big boys are in town.

23:57The circus is in town. But when you're the champions, it's ramped up another. And so the lesson for Arsenal is that they have to make sure that the very first thing they have to do is win the battle. Regardless of where they play, whether it's Anfield or whether it's Brighton, you have to win the battle to start and then you go from there. So right now, teams are just getting a lesson. And City are lucky that they learned a lesson, but they still got the three points. Whereas Arsenal, they learned a lesson, but they got nothing. Yeah, Steve makes a good point. Sometimes it's really easier for the constructive criticism when you've won.

24:33Everybody's already down, maybe a little defensive if you have a bad loss. So when you win, it's kind of easier to put your arm around somebody like, you know, Frank mentioned it, like a Donna Roma and say, hey, we know what you're capable of doing. You know what you're capable of. This isn't you chasing balls out here, doing this kind of stuff. We don't need that. And like I said, when you did, when you have made the mistakes, you weren't punished. You were able to come away with the three points. It's a good time to sit down and kind of get everybody refocused. So Frank, this means nothing for you in terms of the title race?

25:11Well, it's getting interesting. You know, everybody agreed at the beginning of the season. It's been proven that Arsenal are the favorites. And after two or three days, we say, oh, whoa, whoa. It's confirmed. You know, they're going to win and easily win. Well, now it's another talk. Yeah, as Stevie says, it's a big stretch. But you know what? I want to see, I don't know. I want to see Brighton surprising everybody. I don't remember with the beats in the League Cup last week. I don't remember. But it's always interesting to see surprises. And as Sutherland surprised everybody and some others, Brighton, they have everything.

25:48I don't know. They have no depth. And maybe I'm not sure. I don't know the team that good. But it's interesting to see how they're capable of surprising everybody, how good they are, how disciplined they are. And that's what you need. And if they don't have unfortunate injuries or any other things, they can surprise. And if the Gunners and Citizens are not serious enough, let's see what's going to happen. Remember Leicester. Yes, indeed. Right. Well, we know that one side of Manchester is happy today. But what about the red side of Manchester? Fulham took on Manchester United at Craven Cottage and it ended in a 1-1 draw, but still had some eventful goals indeed.

26:28Indeed, it all started off with a bizarre Alessandro Martinez own goal that looked to seal the deal for Fulham. But in the 89th minute, Mateus Cunha had a deflected strike that was able to rescue a point from Michael Carrick. Frank, both Fulham and Manchester United needing something this week. Who would be the happier side?

26:51I would say none of them. I mean, we saw great first half, especially 25 shots on goals, a very offensive one. It should have been like maybe 3-3. But Fulham cannot be happy because they thought they got something and they could have gotten the three points. And of course, Manchester United, when you play against the last of the table, United cannot be happy to only score at the 89th. On the goal they conceded, I don't know, in French TV they say Martinez is responsible because he's trying to give the ball back to Lamens, which I doubt about that. He's a left-footed. He tries to just touch the ball.

27:28I don't know why Lamens, maybe Casey can say it. Why he doesn't take it with his hands? No clue, Frank. No clue. Yeah, that's what I thought. And I sent a text to a former Leeds Everton player, Olivier Dacour, who played with me with the national team. And he works for the team. I said, what are your commentators saying? You know, Lammens is responsible. And I don't know why he tries to tackle the ball. Martinez just tried to touch the ball, but that's whatever. But Martinez had a great shot. I think at the beginning of the game, I really thought Manchester United will kill the game very early.

28:06Fulham were really there. But after 20, 25 minutes, something turned. And then Fulham became very competitive. And then it becomes a very tight game, very entertaining as well, but interesting. and overall the draw is quite normal, but it doesn't please anybody, I think. Casey? Especially on that Lissandra Martinez zone goal. Well, I mean, Fulham have had a difficult start to the season. I'm probably thinking that you're that close to picking up three points in a match that you didn't particularly expect to pick up three points in. I think if you had asked him probably before the game, they would have been like, oh, yeah, we'll take a draw against Manchester United at home.

28:49Manchester United, I think in the same frame that Frankie's talking about, is that they need something to kick on their season as well. And to lose at Fulham would have been a huge embarrassment. To scrape a point gives you a little bit, but in the end, they would have expected to come down to London and go away with three points. Steve, if you're Michael Carrick, what did you make of Manchester United's, I suppose, energy levels? because Mateos Cunha after the game says he felt like they woke up after going a goal down, which was well into the game by then. And we keep talking about why we're not getting the same reaction out of the players from Michael Carrick that we saw last season.

29:30You know, I can't imagine for one second that Michael Carrick is not winding them up before the game. Yeah. I can't imagine. But they still look pedestrian. But then that comes down to the players themselves. You know, we've been talking all season so far that we don't think this Man United team is good enough to compete at the top. And it's not just about talent when you're competing at the top. It's about the desire and preparing and being ready when the first whistle goes that you are involved in the game and you are closing people down and doing all the dirty things and winning all the battles.

30:07That's why the best teams can do everything. And so I just find it a little difficult to put the blame on Carrick because the players step on the field and they have to prove what they're worth. And this Man United team don't. And Man United should be glad Everpoint because they could have been two or three down at halftime. There's no question. Yes, United had some chances, but the best chances were for Fulham. And so, yeah, Michael Carrick, I'm pretty sure was winding them up. But now he has to sit them down and look them straight in the face and say, You need to look in the mirror. Every single one of you need to look in the mirror because when you go on that field, I can't be chasing after you and winding you up.

30:47You have to be able to do that yourself. So I'm going to take a little away from Carrick and put this on the players. And again, Bruno Fernandes, he's the captain. He's the one when he sees that any player isn't focused properly, doesn't have that intensity or that desire properly. That's his job as a captain, to make sure that they have that. So, yeah, I'm putting this one on the players. Frank, do you two more on the players now than on Michael Carrick? Yes, of course. Where I disagree with you when you call them pedestrians or when Stevie said that they are more, Fulham had more chances, I think the first 20 minutes, again, Manchester United were spot on.

31:29They were working. And the problem is they have, I think they have, as Brighton, the most shot on target of the Premier League. but they have to work on the finishing. And when you have Mbomo, Cunha, Fernandes, comparing to any Brighton player, you cannot afford to waste those chances. So they have to be better on the finishing. But again, as they would have been more clinical, as Manchester City has been, and I know you won't like the comparison. I'll take that comparison at this point. But it's what it is. When you're a top club, you have to finish better and they would have done that they would have the game would have been over after 20 minutes for sure so um Carrick can be responsible for something but today no the players are responsible for the result and uh he would have the right to be very upset after the after the game Casey yeah I mean you're talking about a little bit of a gulf in quality And when you look at the stats from the Sunderland-Manchester City game, City had less shots, less shots on target than Sunderland, but scored two more goals because there's a little bit different gulf of quality of the players in the final third.

32:52Matches are won in two positions. The defensive third and the final third. And what Sunderland did in the defensive third and what they were unable to do in the attacking third, the difference was the gulf in quality for Manchester City. So when you look at Manchester United and the chances they created in this match, they needed that little extra bit of quality that I'm sure the Manchester United fans have been used to seeing over the years. maybe it's not quite there. So then you can't afford to not match the energy or surpass the energy of your opponent because you don't have that quality that's going to bail you out in the final third that Manchester City had today.

33:40All right. Well, big point on the road then for Michael Carrick before the international break. Imagine if it fails when you call it a big point. The mighty Fulham, the mighty Craven Cottage, the fortress that it is in West London. Whether you meal prep or meal panic, Instacart's new shopping assistant, Clementine, is here to help. Now you can generate a recipe in seconds, add everything you need to make it to your cart, and have it delivered in as fast as 30 minutes. Plus, you can plan a meal for any occasion, get meal ideas for the week, and reorder your faves with just a few taps. That way, you can spend less time figuring out what to make and more time enjoying it.

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35:04Alexander Isak scoring the winner in what was a tough watch overall, but in the end, a solid performance from Liverpool defensively and plenty to be proud of for Iraola. Bournemouth proper team Stevie so how satisfied are you with this win something tells me not very much I'm absolutely delighted oh okay with the way they played they come away with three points I'm absolutely delighted yeah listen I said I said a couple of weeks ago if I could get Liverpool to just keep clean sheets then if you do that because they have got talented players you've always got a chance yeah of getting a goal get a point, get three, whatever it is.

35:47You've always got a chance of getting something if you keep a clean sheet. And that's exactly what happened in this game. Liverpool, these teams could have swapped strips and you wouldn't have known who was there. That's how, by average, Liverpool were today. But they got a win. And so now, when you get three points, you can build from it. Everybody has a different... There's a different atmosphere around the place when you get a win, particularly away from home. So, yeah, the performance was rotten. In terms of going forward, it was desperate. As I said, it took us 57 minutes to show the goal.

36:24And even after that, there wasn't another chance. So, yeah, I'm delighted. Three points away at Bournemouth, not playing well, but it's a clean sheet. And that's how you start. That's how you get things going. Frank, you agree that's how Liverpool should take this one? Despite Stevie saying they were a bad average? Take the three. No, yeah, there were more than that, you know. That was boring. I was being kind. From both sides, you know. Oh, my God. But, yeah, get the three points, go back home, and be happy, you know. It's a wonderful Sunday. But, yeah, I'm worried about Bournemouth. If they keep on playing that way, I think they are in danger.

37:05But Liverpool didn't show anything. They had one shot from Bacola in the first half. That's it. otherwise that was very average uh good the clean sheet it's very important we were talking before about entertaining games entertaining games sorry before where uh you had so many goals so let's say that defensively Liverpool did the job and got the three points so everybody has to be happy on the on that Merseyside area but otherwise yeah go back home get the three points think about working out, working very carefully for the three weeks if you have some players for that because they're mostly internationals.

37:42But otherwise, you know, nothing much to remember about that game because that wasn't entertaining at all. Yeah, but Liverpool with now three consecutive clean sheets in the Premier League for the first time since 2024. Casey, is that what we should be focusing on now instead of some of the other concerns? Well, I think it was last season's major concern. and I think I understood that that had to be fixed before they kind of got into a more expansive attack. And to Stevie's point, when you're working on things, when you're trying to figure stuff out, when you're trying to figure out who you're going to be, how you're going to play, what's your way going forward, if you can be confident that you can keep it at zero, you have a chance of getting results.

38:35If you're always worried we're going to concede two and three, it makes it way more difficult. So if they can get consolidated defensively, then figure out – you look at that team sheet. They're going to be more dangerous going forward in the future, but not if they're trying to come back from being 2-0 down after 20 minutes. So I think they're getting it right. Now it's then how do they be, you know, better in the attack. But you've got to start with defense. And the two things that have made a difference, number one, is a Rojo going to right back. You know, instead of having a Fring Pong or a Trent Alexander type, you know, all this trying to attack and go forward.

39:17Someone who actually defends. Somebody who actually understands. You mean a defender being a defender? What? Not in the modern era. We can't have that. Spooky things. And also, Jackie. I mean, Frank will know him better than we do, but Jacque, now that he's 100%, because he wasn't 100 % at the start of the season, he has made a huge difference as well. If they can figure out how to sort out the left-back position, then you are looking at a solid base, 100%, that you can build on and are building on as we speak. Frank, what do you make of the two players? I know you touched on Jacque the other day, but also the introduction of Ronald Araujo.

39:53Yeah, that's very interesting. I mean, Jacquet is going to get full confidence going with the national team, with Zinedine Zidane, and meet some huge players. And it's a dream come true for him. And I don't really know the other one. But I think it's very good also for Van Dijk to have somebody that he can rely on. And Jacquet seems to be that guy who is ready to learn a lot quickly and being effective. So it's a very good point for Liverpool. I didn't expect that guy to be as ready as it is right now. And I agree with Stevie. The guy wasn't ready at first, but after five games, no problem. Conate can go to Real Madrid.

40:35We have Jaquie now. Everything's perfect. Look at that. We had a 5-3 result and we had a tough 1-0 result. And that's the one that we're talking the most about because, again, two defenders and a goalkeeper. All right, well, let's have a look at some of the other results from around the Premier League. Frank, cover your ears because remember Friday, Chelsea went down 3-0 to Brentford. The issues continue with Spurs as they went down to Aston Villa. And then, of course, all of the games that we saw here today. We'll make sure to tune in to ESPN FC tomorrow as well. We will be back looking back at all of the weekend's actions and maybe looking ahead to the international break now that it will be getting underway.

41:16From the English Premier League to Germany to Spain to four World Cups, Keller became one of the most dominant keepers in the game. The way he played was unreal. You just saw this aura of confidence. What a save by Casey Keller. It was impossible to ever stop fighting. But you can get beat down enough where you finally quit. The one piece that I kind of left out. I was actually fighting for my life. None of the coaches knew. None of my teammates knew. And I didn't know how much longer I could go. You don't want that to be the end. This isn't just your career ending. This is potentially your life ending.

42:15The Greatest Save, they're featuring the one and only Casey Keller. streaming live now on the ESPN app. Casey, just want to see if we can get into your brain as well about what this documentary is about. Because as you said, it is the greatest save and it dives a lot deeper into your battles on, but maybe off the pitch. Yeah, I mean, so it's a short documentary, a little over a half an hour, and it kind of starts with growing up a farm in Washington and being one of the first players to be able to, truly establish themselves in England with Millwall and kind of being able to do that at an interesting place like Millwall.

42:57And if you saw any footage from the Millwall West Ham Derby yesterday, you understand that it's a place. A couple lighters, coins, anything else. And then kind of going from my long career, going back home And kind of having this this kind of like this perfect scenario where I spend 17 years in Europe. I go back home. The sounders are blowing up and there's this, you know, this this this huge buzz around that. And then when I went home, I signed a two year contract in my late 30s, early 40s. And we kind of wanted to see where I was before I extended. And as I was extending or in the process of extending for a one year contract, I was having a little problem at the end of the season with my hip.

43:49And what I didn't want to do is play my 20th season as a pro and spend that whole time on the treatment table. So I said to the club, I said, look, before I sign the contract, I just want to make sure that there's nothing serious with my hip. So I go in, I get the MRI about two hours later. I get a phone call from the team doc and he's like, Hey, Casey, look, just wanted to let you know. Your hip looks like a 41 year old guy who's played 700 matches. It's fine. But he says, I have a question for you. I said, OK. He said, you had lunch yet. I said, Doc, I've had a lot of MRIs. Nobody's ever asked me if I've had lunch yet afterwards.

44:34He said, well, we saw something else on the MRI. And if you hadn't had lunch yet, we wanted to go back to the hospital and get a biopsy. Since you've had lunch yet, you're scheduled for 6 a.m. tomorrow morning. You know, but you don't know. Yeah. You know when they're that serious about that. So then it was a case of, you know, the wonderful four or five days waiting for pathology to come back. Pathology comes back, confirms that I have non-Hodgkin's. lymphoma and then it's the question marks then it's meeting with the oncologist the oncologist said look you know we we see no reason for you let's let's just monitor this and see what happens so then so then you know I spend the I play that whole last season not knowing if I could start the season finish the season I had a couple tests throughout the year went into the broadcast broadcast career after I retired.

45:38And it was really eight years before I started treatment and then fully expecting, you know, treatment to be the doc to come back and, hey, this is the most success we've ever seen. And instead it was a series of setback after setback. Yeah. Yeah. Well, we are so happy that you were able to make that great save indeed. And Casey is chronicling it in that one. The greatest save, it is available now on the ESPN app. Please definitely watch it.

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47:41All right, well, that's going to do it for this edition of Anerly Said Football, America's ESPN. But don't go anywhere because we've got some questions to answer over on Extra Time next.

47:59All right, welcome into Extra Time, everyone. Alexis Newn is here alongside Stevie Nichol and Casey Keller, plus our super, super Frankie Leboeuf. Let's get into the first question, shall we? And it's for Stevie. Stevie, Liverpool has had three clean sheets in a row since Irrayola started playing Virgil van Dijk, Jacquet and Araujo together. Do you think they will be a solid top three team if they sort out the left fullback as well? It's almost as if he was watching you on the show. Well, I'd have to see, yes. Top three? team steady well that's what he's asking well there's there's three parts to that question okay so the first part would be a yes right the last part i'll skip the middle the last part is a stretch right now okay because going forward liverpool are not creating much there's a guy called gagpo who could have been playing for man city today um fortunately he didn't go because right now he's the only person from an attacking point of view maybe he could throw Sobizlae in there yeah it's only really Gakpo who's producing anything because right now Florian Verts ain't doing it Isak yes he got a goal but he did nothing else in the game and hasn't hasn't really done that much in terms of off the ball so going forward to be a top three sides you're going to have to start scoring goals and Liverpool right now don't look as though they've got any sort of connection between the front players including Bacala to create and score lots of goals.

49:40So yeah keep coming clean sheets then you can you can nick 1-0 wins like you did today but you're not going to be in the top three if you're nicking 1-0 wins throughout the season. So if Liverpool don't get their act together going forward they won't be in the top three. Well, from one defender to another. Frank, what do you think? If they sort out that full-back position, the left side, will they be a top-three team? Could they? They could. They could be, which is incredible, because we've said a lot of time that Liverpool was the most entertaining team like three years ago in the Premier League.

50:15And now they could be the most boring team in the Premier League, but keeping cliche and winning games. and because when you compare with Arsenal even Arsenal this season being very offensive of first Manchester City but we saw Brighton we even see Manchester United shooting a lot of time no scoring but right now they might come and Chelsea as well and and then we see a Liverpool team where you see nothing where you can enjoy but as you say three clean sheets in a row one nil win away from home so that could be the new Liverpool let's see I don't know if they can last it will need to be more effective at front but so far so good yes yeah I mean the great teams have balance they're they're good defensively but they're also a threat in the attack and and right now they needed to figure out their defense and it looks like they're figuring that out but if they're going to be competitive in the Champions League spots next for next season they need to be more uh effective going forward and they have the players to do it there's no question they do and they just but it has to click Casey Ekiteke is also at some point coming back remember the effect that had Ekiteke last season before his injury so let's hope that he will score goal with him.

51:47Again, that's I hope everybody what Frank said is right, but I hope everybody's not thinking that Ike Tiki's just going to take a pair of boots on and be the same after being out for over a year. Sure. But yeah, in terms of the back three, yeah, but unfortunately the fourth pete is missing because Liverpool are struggling big time at left back. That is absolutely a weak link. Right, next question, which I don't think we have the right personnel for but we're going to see. What can Kylian Mbappé learn from Rafinha about the art of playing as a number nine? Frank, you want to start? Oh, my God. I'm not sure what to answer to that nasty question.

52:33There is a meaning behind that question. So I think Rafinha is simply exceptional right now. He's on fire. He plays from another planet right now. It's crazy effective. Every time he touches the ball, something happens. But you have to respect Mbappe and what he was able to do every time when he was playing for Monaco, Paris Saint-Germain, and Real Madrid for so many years, scoring so many goals. So I won't answer to that question, even if I agree that Rafinha Reina is the best striker in the world. Yeah, I would eliminate the number nine of that question. And I would say, what can Mbappe learn from Rafinha right now?

53:17And I would say leadership, kind of the way he's helping galvanize this young Barcelona team, the way there's an unselfishness. There's this idea of, I'm playing number nine, but if I need to go wide, I'll go wide. If I need to drop back and defend, I'll drop back and defend. And so, and the way he's kind of bringing his other teammates along. I mean, we saw a couple matches ago where, you know, he had a real stern word with Laminya Maul to say, hey, come on, hey, get, you know. And so I would say it's more the way that Barcelona needed a leader. They needed somebody in that position. When Hansi Flick asked him, it was Hansi Flick was quoted.

54:04Yeah, it was a 30-second conversation. Yeah, of course. Rafinha, sure. What's the team need? Of course, I'll do it. Done. And he's absolutely thrived from that. and his teammates are thriving with him. And I think for me, that would be what I would love to see Kylian Mbappe become at Real Madrid. There's absolutely nothing that Rafinha does that's about him. Yeah. Team player. Absolutely. There's nothing he does that makes you, or he portrays as, this is about me. Which, Frank knows Mbappe better than the rest of us, But looking from the outside, it looks as though a lot of things Mbappe does is about him.

54:47All right. We'll leave it at that. They're coming for Frank's boy. But next question. What do players who aren't on international duty do during the window? Or is it vacation period? I feel like... Like hydration drinks, right? Yes, yes. I feel like these three were always called into international windows. Come on, you guys are the crown de la clan. Most of the time. I used to pull out a lot. I used to have the old, oh, my groin. And you hobbled all the way to the pub. Well, what would happen is Dalglish would come up to me and say, look, do you really want to go? You know, particularly if it's a friendly.

55:31Yeah. Who really is friendly, right? And I'd be like, I'd be like, no. Are you fighting for something? Because I'll tell you what, he goes, hey, if we're cruising, I'll take you off in five minutes to go and give it the whole groin. Because back then, like today, you actually have to have all kinds of doctor's nose. I wonder why, because people were kind of changing the system a little bit. I wonder why now they actually have to look at stuff. We were two, three up on a Saturday at Anfield. Right, on you come and I'd be like. And then you see Steve Nicole out for this international break with groin injury.

56:07Treatment table. You know, Stevie, there can be 20 doctors. There are some injuries. They can't do anything and they can't know anything. Yeah, exactly. And the ankle as well. And there are some feelings that you cannot create. But you know what? It's crazy because at the beginning of my career, I wasn't playing for the national team. So I was working hard where everybody was on duty, international duties. But after that, it became like three days game, three days games for like seven, eight years of my career. And I remember one day, it's nothing to do with the international duties, but I remember one day getting a yellow card and it was my third one.

56:52And I knew that within 15 days I would be suspended. and I said to the ref, you know what? You gave me a weekend off. Thank you very much, my dear. And he was so upset with that, you know, because we cannot enjoy anything. So I had a drink, some drinks with a weekend off. That was great. We had a few times that worked out really well where they would start European Championship qualifying and we wouldn't be necessarily on the same schedule because we didn't have World Cup qualifying for two more years. and South America was like that. So I remember one time we had a weekend off and it was, we took the kids to Euro Disney and it was a who's who of South American footballers in Europe who didn't have an international break while the Europeans were in qualifying.

57:43It was tremendous. Love it, love it. All right, next question. Well, actually Casey's got something fun this international break. Some of us have to talk about the U.S. Men's National Team. Well, I assume I will be, too. I'm going to sneak off to my house in Idaho and get kind of that late, early fall. And, yeah, kind of have that late summer, early fall in Idaho mountains. Flannel pumpkin spice lattes. Oh, he loves the pumpkin spice. So do I. Next, what? You don't like pumpkin spice? Pumpkin spice latte. Pumpkin spice latte. You like haggis spice latte. Haggis spice. Oh, dear. That's way down my list.

58:20Stop it. Way down here. Pumpkin spice ale, maybe? They're pumpkin beer. That's got a better chance. Yeah, that's got a better chance. Stevie, do you think Arsenal lack the firepower up front akin to the likes of PSG, Bayern, and Barca to go all the way in a competition like the Champions League? Is that the one thing they're lacking? I don't think you can say that. Does firepower win the Champions League? I mean, or it can help. right but yeah, I got to the final last year and I got played for them it's called the one on the Champions League yeah, so it's not like they don't have players that have been there before Donna.

59:04It's it's it's a few. It's about getting a rate on the day if you get to the final. Yeah, oh, you get orders and look at yeah, I should get example. Yeah, there's nobody has got more or better fire power in the French national team. Sorry, Frank. You know what? The semi-final, it just went wrong. It wasn't their day. So, yeah. So you have to have the ball to be able to score in Spain. You didn't give them the ball. You have to have the players to win the Champions League. Yeah. Yeah, that would be the answer. Frank, what do you think? Well, and you need to, yeah, you need to have the mindset as well.

59:41When they play the final Champions League, they don't want to attack. They don't want to create anything. And it's why they may be lost. but I think they have all the tools, all the Arsenal to win something and they are ready. Havertz is on fire. If he keeps like that, he would be the right striker and already scored a Champions League goal with Chelsea when Chelsea won the Champions League. So it's not really an issue. They don't really need a striker. I really think that they are all everywhere capable in every position capable of winning the championship with a team like that. But as Stevie said, when you play a final, it's the day where you have to be ready.

1:00:27It's mentally, physically, and tactically. All right. Let's go to the final question now. And it was something we were talking about earlier, some scary scenes. But Andros Townsend, the former England international, thankfully avoided any serious injuries after being run over by a pitch roller during warm-ups before a Thai league match. Can you guys recall seeing any weird incidents or injuries during warm-ups before a match? Hopefully no pitch rollers. I saw, I didn't see it, thankfully. But a really horrible, horrible incident where, I think it was at Charlton. where the team bus backed in and caught a steward and pinned him against, and I think he lost his life.

1:01:21And so there's, yeah, there can be some tough things. I mean, was it Palermo, the Argentinian that was celebrating? I think it was Villarreal's old stadium, and he jumped up, and it broke, And the cement came off and broke his leg and knocked him out for the rest of the season. Oh, my God. Yeah, there can be some crazy stuff that kind of happens. This just took a dark turn. Well, you get run over by a steamroller on the pitch. That's kind of dark to start with. Unfortunately, you reminded me of another incident. We were playing at Barnsley in the League Cup. This is back in the 80s when, you know, certificates for...

1:02:09Certificate for safety. It was a little bit different. Give me the pen and I'll sign it. We played Barnsley and during the corner at that end, and of course everybody's pushing forward, and the wall collapsed. So then their players were running over, pulling bits of the wall up and pulling people out. They touched with, fortunately, as far as I know, nobody got injured. Yeah. Seriously, a couple of bruises and bumps and cuts and whatnot, but yeah, one of the walls collapsed. Frank, I'm almost afraid to ask. There's nothing fun. There's nothing fun going to happen. Boring life. About getting run over by starting the conversation, by getting run over by steamrollers.

1:02:55I think they were suggesting maybe any funny or weird incidents. A parachute is landing on somebody's head. Yeah, or... As long as the parachute opened. Oh, there you go. There you go. Yeah, it can only go wrong. Last question. Nothing much for me. I only saw somebody sleeping, a player sleeping after the game, you know, going to the shower and hit his head, you know, on the floor. And it was OK. The marble. The only thing that I saw, and it'll be crazy. Frank, the marble at Highbury at Arsenal. It was like a marble floor. You'd have your studs. I mean, like every match, it almost felt like someone was going to take a header.

1:03:36Right. Well, that's a very positive way to end this extra time. Lovely. Stay safe, everyone out there. Stay away from pitch rollers, from poorly inspectors. Marble, showers, pretty much everything. Wrap yourself in bubble tape and join us on ESPN FC again tomorrow.

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