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23:34So this is on their delayed travel to Italy and you can see the papers having a bit of fun with it. He says, I love those challenges. I try to create them in pre-season, delaying the meals, delaying the transport, taking a different route. Make the dressing room hotter, more difficult, more challenging, less massage beds, get to the stadium very late, change the routine so the players have to do something else. I don't want the players and staff panicking. We have two or three hours on the plane. Can we use it? Play together, spend some time together, sleep, but don't complain or use it as an excuse because it's not helpful at all.

24:14Frank and Jan still with us so sabotaging a few plans we've seen the pickpocket the light bulbs now this what's next Jan? Teta is the wisest man in football I mean he is fantastic the way he's doing it is brilliant and the main thing is that he won the championship last season he won the Premier League title and then you're allowed to say anything you could say that you play chess blind you can do anything and it's wise Having said that seriousness of we have had enough coaches that is the only one panicking. I've had coaches that's been running around in a hotel reception screaming because the rooms are not ready and the players are confused and they're nervous.

24:59And then you have a look around. We played cards and we're on our music box or whatever. So I like the way he approached that because I've seen enough crazy managers and crazy coaches that is thinking totally opposite of what Arteta did. We had big problems in our dressing room, but that was not a plan of a great strategy plan. But I think the main thing for Arteta now is that he has that Premier League title on his head. So he can say whatever he wants. He is the man. He is the man. And the team is starting brilliantly and they're winning in the Champions League. So then we just have to say, well done, well done.

25:35Is that what you would say, Shaka? Well, I agree, Jan, in that winning the title absolutely gives you authority to do as you please and make these out-of-the-box recommendations and suggestions around your team. Because had results gone otherwise, I think it reflects otherwise. I will also say this, and something you touched on there, I've said this time and time again. Players like routine. And you see that. And I think that's what Arteta is getting to, upsetting that routine. He also says he doesn't want the players to have an excuse. I've sat here time and time again and said, you give a player an excuse to lose a game, nine times out of ten, they're going to take it.

26:18And Arteta is just absolutely flipping that on his head and saying, we are not taking any excuses on board. And I think that's a, that, even if you take that alone out of it, I like what he's doing. You've got to keep them guessing, Frank, haven't you? Yeah, yeah. No, I love it too. I agree with Xhaka. I think it's a good thing. It's a kind of an evolution in the football. Yes, football players like the routine, the nap in the afternoon. So maybe to trouble that allows you to adjust. And it's a good thing. And you have to be ready for everything. And that's at some point, you know, at first they say, well, it's a little bit childish, you know, let the player what they want to do and keep their routine.

27:03They're grown up. They want to be professional. So he has to be spot on. But things can happen. Yeah, you can be delayed in a football game because of a play and everything. So you have to be ready. And overall, I say, well, good point, Mikel Arteta, very good point because players will have to adjust and be ready and perform. So it's a good thing that he thought about. And so, next off, go on, Jan. Now, the funny thing, Kay, is that in football, for example, the leaders will say, I want you to go out there. There are 50 ,000 people. Take responsibility now. Could I have your passports? Because we don't trust you going through the airport without losing your passport.

27:43But when you get on the pitch, take responsibility. And 209 nations will broadcast this game. But let's do the passport. And then you talk about, oh, I play 4-2, 3-1, whatever, 4-4-2. And the only time in a game where we have that formation is when you take the kickoff. The rest of the games, you have to sort out that you're two at the back, three at the back. You are five at the back. You're two deep. So I like those kind of things. That is more part of the philosophy I like because sometimes you have these iPad coaches, that especially where they have found out that this and that XG or XS and everything going on will happen.

28:25But what we do know in a game is that everything will not happen as we thought it would be the whole week in training. Yeah, it's a little bit like when we have you and Frank on the show together. We never know what's going to happen. We've got to expect the unexpected. Let's take a look at what's coming up this weekend in the Premier League. This is Saturday's schedule. and of these games that we see here, Shaka, it is Arsenal against Sunderland that catches your eye. Yeah, it is. Listen, Arsenal, very good start to the season, playing disruptions and all. But I want to see how much Arsenal have advanced in terms of the technical aspect of their football.

29:03Last season, in this fixture, Sunderland got a draw to them by being disciplined, using their physicality, frustrating Arsenal in ways that Arsenal have frustrated or gotten the better of others. And while you've seen flashes of a brilliant Arsenal at times this season, Odegaard absolutely central to all of that, I just want to see up against another stubborn Sunderland performance, started the season poorly, but well, with a loss to Fulham, but then have rebounded well. how much better this season are Arsenal up against that type of opponent? I think that's a big question for Arsenal to answer this early.

29:50Yes, speaking of big questions to ask, Frank, you've gone for Chelsea Hull. Hull, a newly promoted side who've started the season well. Yes, they've started well. They're going to face Chelsea. Chelsea at home, open Chelsea, vertical. at the end of the tiki-taka situation, scoring six goals midweek, considering three. That's a very big change of playing the football. And we knew that with Xavi Alonso, it would be that way offensively. They have to improve defensively. So we have to respect Hurl. Hurl started very well, scared all the teams that they played against. But overall, I think Chelsea is going to do well.

30:35It's going to get the three points and maybe can be a threat, maybe against the Goerners. Meanwhile, for you, Jan, it's Liverpool against Fulham that you're interested in. Tell us more. Well, first of all, I'll be at the stadium. That's number one. But I've seen, I was at Ipswich. That was a good performance by Liverpool. They came through that difficult place to go as it is. That's a saying. We go to Portman Road and just take the points at that position that Liverpool are in. And then in Atletico Madrid, they are 1-0 down. They're coming back, winning that game. It's great for the moral. But it's another test because these games are tricky.

31:14As Xhaka was saying, now for Arsenal, coming from being away in the Champions League, then going up in northeast to play Sunderland, that is a big task. And it's a mental thing to see how far Liverpool has come. Because this is a game they, of course, have to win. and it's going to be very interesting to see now after the Ipswich game, after the Atletico Madrid game, if they can get this Airaola project another step forward. So I look forward to that game and some of the players getting slowly in form. I saw Isak at Ipswich and he said, yeah, the way we play, that suits me better when we play in a counter-attack.

31:55But obviously we don't play that all the time, so I have to adjust. But I think there's a lot of good questions to be asked about Liverpool and we'll see if they answer them tomorrow. Yeah, absolutely. So that's us looking ahead. But if we are to look back on the Champions League results from Thursday, we'll actually do that in just a moment. Our show promo has got to come first. All right. Because we do need to remind you that we will, of course, be talking about Saturday's Premier League games on ESPN FC. And you should always be with us every single day. We'll also look back on everything else that's gone down during the day, including Real Madrid's game against Real Vallecano.

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33:36Okay, here they are. Thursday's Champions League results, and we'd like to cast your eyes over Fenerbahce's 1-1 draw with Roma. Just looking at it there, doesn't feel like anything that stands out, okay? Well, the press conference afterwards with their manager was very dramatic. Here's why. As of tonight, I congratulate my players when I resign from my position. Therefore, to all the fans who have supported me until today, to you members of the media, to my staff and to my player brothers, I thank you very much. I will not take any questions. Tonight, I have stepped down from my rule. To clear the way for my club, to open the way for my club, I made such a decision.

34:18We made this decision together with our staff. From now on, to help Frennabachi, my footballers and the coaches who will come, Early on, while there is still a time, I have resigned from my position on the condition of never returning again.

34:56Resigned? Do you mean by resigned? Resigned like he will not work anymore. He's not the coach anymore. Yeah, he said that, he resigned. He will not continue. He said this just now. He didn't miss a revision. Yeah, in the press conference. I didn't know about this. And then since then, Fenerbahce have released a statement saying that they've not accepted his resignation and he will be staying on as coach. Let's talk about this situation, if we may. How crazy is that? We were talking to the producer before the show, and he was saying it's kind of like, you know when you're in a classroom and you get ready and you all go in there, and then the teacher doesn't turn up.

35:31You're a bit like, does class go on or do we get to go home here? Those are my favorite days of school, to be honest, my teacher doesn't show up. This is one that I don't know what to make of. You know, on the one hand, in different style to the season, two wins, two draws, then they draw in two losses, then they draw in the Champions League. Then the manager says, listen, I'm gone. I'm never coming back. And then the ownership comes out and says, yeah, he's still our manager. He can't leave until we say he's left. So where do we go from here? If the manager said, I'm never coming back here. And then somebody else says, yeah, you are.

36:12We locked the gates. You can't leave. How does this? I don't know. I've never seen anything like it. It's a little crazy, isn't it, Jan? Oh, it's crazy. I mean, we would call him a drama queen. Let's start there. He's a drama queen. The way he tried to, he said in his statement eight times that he was leaving the post. We got it the first time. Just say you're leaving and go out the door. That is point one. But for me, the great story was when they would talk to the player and they say he's resigned. What do you mean resigned? Yeah, he's not your coach anymore. What do you mean he's not your coach anymore?

36:50No, he is not there anymore. What do you mean he's not there anymore? Oh, yeah. No, it's unbelievable. I mean, there are some issues there. Maybe you need a PhD to understand that. But as a drama queen, I know he'll probably stay there and sign a six-year deal. That's how things like this work. Frank?

37:11Well, it happened to me. Not really that way. It's just that when in the morning we had a training session, I came back home. And like half an hour after, Ruiz Gullit called me and said, well, they sacked me. We were second in the league. We were qualified for the semifinal of the League Cup, qualified for the semifinal of the Cup Winners Cup. There were no reason for me that I knew that for him to be sacked. And it's what happened. And Gianluca Viali took over. That was a big change and so unexpected. I would have been in the press conference just after that. I would have said the same. I said, what do you mean?

37:45What do you mean? He's not there. Everything is perfect. We live in a perfect world and I don't get it. But I think there is something behind the scene. I'm pretty sure the guy has another club. He tried to find a way to get out, to escape from Fenerbahce, to go somewhere else. That's not possible. Otherwise, you don't do that. Yeah. While we are on stories from your playing days, particularly in England, we wanted to remind you of something that happened this week with Jürgen Klinsmann when Craig asked him about, you know, he was known for his dives when he was playing back in England, back in the day.

38:17and Jürgen told us a fun story about that. Here it is. Weren't you getting a lot of stick or a lot of flack for accusing you of diving? And then you took that into your celebration, didn't you? Memory serves me right. Yeah, I mean, I didn't know what they were talking about, so the papers were all over me. And a friend of mine, actually, I came from Monaco and Arsene Wenger to the Spurs in 1994 and so the first game was at Sheffield Wednesday and we drove up to the stadium with the bus and there were thousands of fans from Sheffield Wednesday holding up signs 5.6, 5.7 and the team was cracking up and I asked Teddy Sheringham, I said, what's going on?

39:06He said, well, Jürgen, that's your welcome here in the Premier League. They want to give you a vote for diving and you know what we're going to do is you're going to score a goal today and we're all going to do a dive. So in that first game, obviously, I was lucky enough to score then a goal and I did a dive in front of the Sheffield Wednesday fans in their stand and gave them my response to it. Ah, brilliant stuff. And it got us wondering if you guys have got any similar stories from when you were playing in England. So let's start with you, Jan. Well, first of all, I remember this. I was playing in England at that time and I think what Jürgen did that time was fantastic.

39:43I mean, we all had a laugh and we thought it was a brilliant way to kind of owe that story. When I came to England, I wouldn't say I was a great diver with my body. I couldn't drive very beautiful, but let's put it this way. I had it in my toolbox. So one of the first games in England, we played Liverpool. And I kind of, we lost 5-0 as we did at the beginning. We were Swindon Town, newly promoted, and we played Liverpool. And it was three or four nil down, and I tried to get the free kick against Liverpool. And Neil Ruddock, the racer, one of the toughest guys around, and he got into my face and he said, you never, you never do that in English football.

40:32And then he said some words I'm not allowed to say here. And let's put it this way. I learned my lessons. and never tried, I can't remember, but I never tried to dive again. And so that was a part of it. But I also have to say in the 90s, and Frank and Shaka will probably agree with me, because it was only foreigners who dived in England, apparently. No English people, no English players dived. Well, I could give you 10 names, but at that time it was only the foreigners who dived in English football. It was, it was always you foreigners who were fuming. And then when the English players dived, they said, oh, that was the influence of the foreigners.

41:10Well, we might as well join them if we can't beat them. How is that work? Anything for you, Frank, that stands out from your days? Well, when I signed for Chelsea, I was completely unknown. So that didn't happen to me like the big star Jürgen Klinsmann. But I remember after winning the World Cup, I was invited to a show where Gali Lineker was part of, was called They Think It's All Over. And it was absolutely scripted. So they told me, they told me, you know what, don't bother. Every time we say something where we try to criticize you, you say, I don't care, I won the World Cup. So it happened like 10, 20 times where I said that.

41:52There were some guests, I remember, and I said, I don't care. And it was the Lennox Lewis, I think, came over. and he was told, I don't care who you're going to invite. I won the World Cup. And that big guy came out and I couldn't stop laughing. And it's funny, the day after it became viral where everybody was asking me, did you win the World Cup? It was fun. So that's why you're always telling us on this show then, Frank. No, but it was fun. You're just doing what they told you. And yes, that's true. That's true because I keep on showing off And it's funny that Gary Lineker called me and the producer of the show called me and said, we are absolutely sorry.

42:33We didn't know it would go that way, that people would tease you or say it everywhere. But it's part of the game and I'm OK. Because you know what? I won the World Cup. You did win the World Cup. I remember that program. First of all, it was my favorite program. I remember, Frank, when you came on to that program. And I think it was hilarious, funny. I think that was so brilliant. And when I played in Middlesbrough, I played with a world champion, Branko. Branko, who came there, apparently he was 31, but he was probably 51. But that's another story. And when we had a discussion with him, whatever he said, he said, I won the World Cup.

43:17So he took that for Frank. When I asked him, really, what's your age, Branko? because you played in the 58th final when Brazil played in Sweden. And he looked at me and said, can I get away with 31, Jan? So he was a brilliant man. Oh, those were the days, Shaka. They were. Any little funny stories that stand out to you? I don't have any stories about... I hope I do have any stories about diving. Last thing I should have a story about. Nothing of the sort. The fans are great, though, aren't they? I bet the Newcastle fans were funny in the sense of time. Well, if you're talking fan stories, one of the funniest stories I remember, just from fans, is when I joined West Ham.

44:03Teddy Sheringham joins. Or it might have been Pompey. Anyway, Teddy Sheringham joins. And we play in Scotland, a preseason game. And Teddy just left Man U. So he comes, he's probably going to Pompey. And then all of a sudden it goes quiet. and you could hear one fan sing, oh, Teddy, Teddy, you went to Man United and you won nothing. Those who know this song know what I'm talking about. We can guess it. Don't say it, Frank. No, this is Teddy Shagamu just come off winning the Champions League, who just won it all. The entire stadium just broke out laughing because you can hear this one guy. Everybody just stopped.

44:45everybody just honestly it was pre-season so you know you could have a bit of fun and everybody just stopped I always remember that I was like how you come up with that for him at this point yeah fans of them have their own stories I guess their own takes yeah always some brilliant chance in the stadiums across England when it comes to Premier League and beyond all of those he is always brilliant for more stories from these guys make sure to check out our YouTube channel ESPN FC new content uploaded there every single day. Ah, you know I am back on the end of the week. Ah, the power rankings. I don't think there's any arguing.

45:26Barcelona top. Nothing to give between City and Arsenal, or just through City, because they had a better winning in the Champions League. Dortmund off the flyer in the league and the Champions League. Roma, top of Serie A, and second managers, apparently. Cuomo and Cesc Fabregas, incredible story. Great Saturday season for Monaco. Bayern, incredible in the Champions League. I know they drew it. Schalke, Sporting. And then I give Elvesburg. Newly promoted Elvesburg in at number 10. I know it's only two games in. They've won them both. I'm not sure I'll ever get to see Elvesburg in the top 10 again.

46:06And being the romantic that I am, they're in. They're in? Okay, do you like it, Frank? Yeah, I like it. I don't have the return today, so I'm sorry I'm looking under my phone. It's perfect, Frank. It's perfect. Christian. Yeah, and really, really, Xhaka, spot on. Nothing to say. I have to say that I'm sorry, but Evelsberg never heard. So I hope they're going to carry on and continue like that. We can follow them. But otherwise, Xhaka, well done. Fantastic. Oh, yeah. Do you feel as confident? in? Normally Jan is very critical to Xhaka's power ranking but I will just use this argument if he gets Elvis first then I could miss Hull.

46:51I would like to see Hull there because I don't think that is a big chance that they will kind of do that and I do respect Xhaka's fantastic respect for Norwegian football because Bayern got a week where they played 0-0 at Schalke and then they played mighty Bordeaux at home and the goalkeeper was off at halftime so they have to play with a result goalkeeper. But that is a big respect for Xhaka then to get Bayern in there to beat the mighty Norwegian. So thank you, Xhaka, for that. There you go. No complaints. You're most welcome. You're most welcome, Jan. Anytime. Let's quit while we're ahead for you, Xhaka.

47:25I'm never coming back. I'm pulling up Fenerbahce, manager. I'm gone. All of the guys will be back. What do you mean? What do you mean? On the latest edition of Extra Time. You can catch it every single day over on our YouTube channel.

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48:46Happy birthday to you. Oh, okay. What do you appreciate? It's my singing. Thank you so much. Happy birthday, Kate. Thank you, Shekka. It was my birthday yesterday. That's all right. But you're getting cake today. I am delighted with this. Look at that.

49:07I've never had a burr cake I'm sure nobody has Well you're about to Congratulations You're about to Thank you guys I'll have yours for you Frank and Jan I'll have you a kick Happy birthday Oh that's so kind Thank you so much I wasn't even in on my birthday You still got me a cake I'm delighted Thank you very much Alright Stick around We're going to eat cake We're also going to answer some questions on Extra Time. The guys will be joining us. Stay right where you are. Extra Time on the way.

49:43Welcome into the latest edition of Extra Time. We're celebrating my birthday belatedly. And look at my gorgeous cake. Beautiful. Oh, love it. Oh, my goodness. Oh, very nice. Best cake ever. 21 years and I've never had a burro cake. Incredible. Incredible. So there we go. What are you laughing at? That's right. Yep. That's this. I'm just laughing at the borough cake. Okay. We've got Frank and Jan with the Sheckers here too. First question. Who needs to win the Manchester Derby more on Sunday? Jan. First question. You're going to cut that cake or what? Yes. All right. I thought it started. You cut it.

50:19I can't cut a borough cake. You've got to cut it. It's your cake. You can't have an ex-Newcastle player cut the borough cake. Hopefully it'll make it sick. Oh, it looks good. It does. It does look good. It does look good. That's a really nice cake. Oh, look at that. Oh, well done. Do you all know that we get Borough highlights every week now, all of a sudden? Thank you very much. We've got four Americans on the team. We have to. It's our obligation to Football Americas. All of a sudden. Yeah, no, have you got any complaints about that? I'm sure you don't. He's on. No, no, no. We have Borough highlights all the time.

50:53I hope you forgot your question, but I didn't, so I have to answer that. Please do. Manchester Derby. Manchester Derby. I think that I think Manchester City need it because Manchester City is still after the Maresca taking over from Pep Guardiola. I think they need to win this darby for their fans, for their search to go after Arsenal. And they had a great game now away at Porto. So I would say Manchester City and Manchester United had a good game as well. but I would say Manchester City is a difficult question because they both need it, don't they? Frank, do you agree with Jan? This is delicious, by the way.

51:37I do agree. They both need points. They both need to win. But to confirm the good beginning of the season for Maresca, I think City will be very happy with the three points. Jan, was Bodo's woeful performance yesterday an indication that we may not see them go on the same fairytale run in the Champions League like we saw last season? Or were Bayern just too strong for them on the day? Well, I think that Bayern are too strong for their any day. I mean, that is the first thing, because Bayern got a formidable team, that with Ole Miss, with Kane and Muciala, thank God he's back in the team after his small problems.

52:16There's an interesting debate in Norwegian media after this game, because Cetel Krutzen has been so clear on his vision to play, always say, we're going to play my way, we're going to play this way. And he was very disappointed on his players, but also that he changed a bit around. He took another centre-half down. And some people thought that was a defensively kind of thing. But I guess we just have to be more impressed what they managed to do last season. There is no chance that they can stand up against Bayern Munich, who at the moment is one of the best teams in the world and one of the favourites to win the Champions League.

52:54Shaka, any thoughts on Pochettino saying Chelsea should be stripped of the 16-17 Premier League title and for the title to be given to second place Spurs? Who was coached by? Oh, who could it be? Let's give this a thought Listen, I of course understand the sentiment, especially coming from Monsieur Pochettino, but it's not going to happen and I think he knows that, everybody knows that But, you know, you're going to see it because it's... Where did that come from, really? I mean, out of nowhere, suddenly Pochettino says, we're going to win that title. What is this? What's the next thing? That West Germany is going to win the World Cup final in 66 again?

53:36I mean, where did that come from? I wish it's true. Chelsea have a few titles, and, you know, it's my birthday. There's one in particular I would like to strip in the bar, Frank. Oh, well. Oh.

53:51No. I want some cake. He's being kind because it's my birthday. No, you've been cut off. You've been cut off. I'm sorry, Kate. He's just upset he does not. That's OK. Maybe you were biting. I don't see you. So you were biting a piece of cake. So it's why maybe... Yeah, sorry. Sorry about that. It's good, Frank. Delicious. Jan, have you ever played a match at Elversberg or even gone there for a non-football reason? How good will they be this season? Well, the funny thing with German football is that there is, of all the great teams there is in the second league, in the zweite Liga in Germany, and Hertha Berlin are now trying to get back.

54:28They've started the season well. You had Hamburger Spotsrunner have five seasons to wait to go up. Even Stuttgart went down for a year. But it's always one of these small teams coming up. And Elversberg, for those who don't know them, is a village kind of small town with 13 ,000 people. and they have a great manager in Wagner and Wagner managed to get two yellow cards in the last game. So meaning that he was sent off. And who are they playing on Sunday? Bayern Munich. So just before I came on here, they have appealed it and the second appeal was accepted and Wagner von Elversberg can be on the bench against Bayern Munich.

55:12There is some fairness in this world. And still some hope, Jan. Still some hope. There is hope. The Elvesburg climbing the power rankings next week. Yeah, there will. I thought that was a one and done. We'll see. Have faith, Kay. Have faith in Elvesburg. Have faith in Elves. As an interviewer himself, is Jan a fan of Elise's nonchalant way of answering questions during interviews? I think there is a balance, Kay, between being challenging, being cool. Ben White is one of them. First time I interviewed Ben White, I was thinking, what is going on here? But then I realized he got the humor behind it.

55:58There was something about it. I know I love to go with Ben White because he will always give you trouble, but you just have to be aware. But that last interview with Bayern, I think Olyssia just went over a line that it was a bit too arrogantish because I made it up by English word, I didn't know, arrogantish. We know what you mean. Okay, but I didn't like it because it took the kind of mickey out of the interviewer and it wasn't funny. It didn't do it in a funny way. So all he says, watch out doing that because I didn't like that. You know what? When he came to talk to Archie and the boys when Bayern won the league last year and it was on our broadcast and he was actually just hiding from the beer showers, Alise.

56:42So he was like, oh, I can go and, you know, talk to those guys. So he's chatting away and you could even see Archie thinking, whoa, Alise's talking, this is amazing. And I knew the context behind it because I knew what he's like with interviewers. Where do you stand on it, Sheppard? I'm with Jan here. I'm not a fan of it. Listen, on the one hand, you also get the impression that is exactly who Michael Alise is. He's not putting that on. It's not a front. is not just being difficult that's just who he is but obviously I work this side of the camera now and I feel that as much as you may want as a player may want to feel differently media has a place in this game and the success of it which you benefit from I think the two go hand in hand and I say that with a greater appreciation now that I work in media.

57:35I'm with you honest. I'm not a fan of it at all. Do you think it's your obligation as a professional footballer, Frank, to give an interview no matter how short it is? Or do you think it's okay what Elise is doing?

57:50I like what he does because he puts the media back to where they are. So he says, I don't want to answer. If I don't want to give you anything, you won't get anything. But it's It's part of the game. You have to answer. There is an image. Fans want to hear from you. And because of the media, they can know you better. So it's kind of a duty to make sure you give right answers. And I followed some interviews of Olysees on social networks. I couldn't stop laughing because he gives nothing. And that's insane. You don't even have an answer. But I think he should change a little bit his attitude because at some point you will need the media.

58:35And if you turn your back to the media, they're going to hold you back. And so you have to be careful with that attitude. He's not going to get a job on FC talking like that, is he? Yeah, he could. But I think that Frank is making a very, very good point here. That he can be disrespectful to myself when Andy and Andy are doing interviews, but he's talking to his fans. So he has an obligation sometimes to say, how did he feel? So that is disrespectful to his fans. And I think that is the main thing for it. It can be disrespectful to us. I mean, we can live without. We know the part of the game when a 19-year-old looks at you and shakes his head.

59:20I mean, that is some part of our game. And if you do it, do it funny. I didn't think it was funny. And I like a good, funny interview. Jan, I just wondered quickly while we're on this subject, because one of my favourite players to ever interview in the mix zone was Iron Robin, because I always thought that he gave us something. Even if it was after a loss, he would always give a little bit more than most players. Did you ever interview him? Oh, I did. I 100 % agree with you. There are some players that you just feel that they are a part of it. I will use another example. Marco Silva, when he was at Fulham.

59:56It didn't matter. He would just keep on talking. He wanted to answer your question so deeply. And he did that to every channel. I mean, it was quite interesting. Another one is Manuel Neuer. He's doing that a lot. I must say, Xhaka, I'm something critical to goalkeepers. But keepers, I've discussed that with a lot of my colleagues. Why are they the most open-minded? You have Oblak, you have Courtois, you have Manuel Neuer. Because nobody else wants to talk to them.

1:00:34They're cuckoo. They're absolutely cuckoo. Yeah, it was great to say that. We've always been the most intelligent. And then Frank just jumps in. Ah, boy. It was a great answer, though, Frank. Anyway, we'll leave it there. Thank you so much for sending me your questions. Thank you for my Boracay. Oh, the burrow kick. And let's see if we can work our way through this before tomorrow's show. Happy birthday. Happy birthday to you. Happy birthday to you. All right, no more, no more. We don't have your rights, Jan. Happy birthday. You're going to cut your mic. Definitely not to see me. Oh, that was good.

1:01:11Yes, so.

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