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29:04And they really beefed their squad up to a point where they had almost two back fours. You know, they could double up in the wide positions and they had Gabriel Jesus, when fit, Kai Havertz and Xhocarez that could play up front and Havertz could play in a couple of different positions. So they went and beefed up that squad so that when things weren't going well for certain players, they could make a change. You know, when Odegaard was injured or struggling, you know, they signed Eze, he came in and he played. When Eze wasn't playing particularly well, Odegaard played. You know, Martinelli came in, Madweki came in.

29:36They weren't always consistent, but they were bodies that were enough quality. And I think if Liverpool want to get back to winning, I think as important as the first 11, we'll be looking around at the bench and saying, right, what have we got on the bench? because nobody's winning any elite league now with just 14 players, 11 good starters and three or four decent subs and a bunch of kids. Unfortunately, you need more than that now. The problem Liverpool's got is that Arsenal did it over a period of time. They grew that squad to the point of where they've basically got two great players for every position.

30:16I mean, that's the ideal scenario. the problem Liverpool's got is they're not even close to that but they have to sign a whole load at one time that's a completely different animal than being able to quietly do it and strengthen yourself over a period of time Liverpool don't have that at their disposal they have to do it right now and that is we saw what happened last year when they made so many changes and they're going to have to make the same amount at least again how is it possibly going to work? in a short space of time. Particularly, again, because Slot's not going to have time to work with them all, even if they get them all in.

30:54So, again, he's up against it. So that Slot's sticking around by the looks of things. We do know Pep Guardiola, though, is leaving from your former team, Man City, as well, Maka. Stevie had an interesting take on the show that now Pep's gone, Man City have lost a little bit of their luster and might not be able to attract some of the bigger-name players. Would you agree with that? I think they'll attract the bigger name players just because they'll offer them the finances that will attract them to them but yes, I certainly think they've lost a little bit of luster I mean Pep was one of the finest managers around wasn't he?

31:29Whether it was at Barca or Bayern the style of play and then he's gone on to Manchester City and I know Mancini and Pellegrini were there before him but the way he operated the way he wanted to play football was infinitely better than those previous managers. You know, Heinke's won the treble at Bayern. The way Pep came in, I know he never achieved the treble at Bayern, but the way he played football, he lifted them, elevated them to a better style of football. So I think they will lose a little bit of lust. They have to. And it'll be interesting to see who they bring in. I think the transition should be fairly comfortable with the hierarchy they have in Manchester City.

32:06I don't think a lot will change, but they have to change slightly on the pitch. and of course losing Bernardo Silva, losing John Stones, again, real good characters around the ground who know what it's like, who know the area, who've been there for a long time, particularly Stonesy, of course, being English. I think that will hinder them slightly, but what they will do, they'll go out and make a statement, I believe, in the transfer market to show that, you know, nothing has changed here. We're just going to carry on moving forward. They brought in Hugo Vianna as the sporting director. I think already he'll be making an eyeing up people to come in.

32:44You know, bringing Mark Gahey and Semenya in in January was great business, wasn't it, for them? Because, you know, they've slotted into the team straight away. And again, talking about Liverpool, why didn't Liverpool get attracted to them, you know, even last summer when they were splashing the cash? So I think it will affect Manchester City, but I don't think it will affect them so much. Like with City when we lost Jurgen Klopp, it's a pity Pep was gone because the Premier League has lost a real, real great manager. And we'll be sadder for it. But 10 years in the job, I think everybody appreciates he's done incredibly well to stay that long.

33:24City's still got the stardust, still got the attractiveness to get these players in. I don't think there's any doubt that the money and the manager are important. both sort of go hand in hand some players maybe it's just the money but there's no doubt Guardiola was a lure as well for players because of everything that Maka talked about the big question, look, sometimes the problem is that the dominoes start falling when key players, not like Bernardo Silva's been leaving for a little while and he deserves to be able to make that choice and John Stones is obviously he's such a cultured player, John Stones, but he's at that age, he's had his injury problems and he's going with England in the summer I think the problem is if the likes of Haaland and Rodri get itchy feet for whatever reason, then that's when the dominoes could start falling.

34:12But that's not happening just yet. The big question, I think, for City is what's the desire within the dressing room to go and be that team again that were, you know, the best in the country for quite some considerable time. Whoever the manager is, and if these players have got the appetite for that and they sign well in the summer and I believe Maresca is the favourite at the moment for the job. Obviously he's been at City before working there but you know not as a manager clearly it's a completely different ball game. But yeah I think there's enough seniority within that dressing room if they sign well to go and challenge again.

34:50I mean Macca mentioned Gay was a good signing, Kusinov really grew into the season after a horrible start for the young guy so a lot of positives but still some areas they need to improve i mean i'd rather not see nico o'reilly playing left back most of the time i think he's better than that but ultimately they signed art neri in the summer and i don't know why the hell they signed him because you know he can't defend and that's part of the issue in that area so there's some things that city are going to have to address obviously but they're not going to go away unless of course they do go away, which is these charges that are hanging over them, so we don't and nobody knows what the outcome of that is nobody if you're going to Man City as a player, you'd want some clarification about what that scenario is, because we don't know, is it just points, is it just fines or is it a relegation and I'm not putting fuel in the fire here, all those things are on the table, which is taking so long in the legal sense that we don't know what's happening.

35:53So if we don't know, what about players going into the club from a Bayern or a Real Madrid or somewhere in England? They have to be asking that question. What's the scenario here going forward? And do I get a clause in my contract that if X, Y or Z happens, I can get out? That's where kind of City are at the moment. Yeah, given that the England squad has been mentioned and while we've got you here, Mac, are you OK with Cole Palmer and Phil Foden not going? I'd rather them be there, to be honest. I'd rather one of the wild cards to be there. Like I'd rather see Trent Alexander there when I saw the list of names.

36:29But every four years, we have this conversation where somebody misses out. Has their form been good enough? Probably not. Cole Palmer hasn't had the great season he has compared with others. Phil Foden probably hasn't had as much time on the pitch as other people to be chosen. So I can see the circumstances around Thomas Tuchel's appointment with all the players. But I'd rather one of them be there. I think a Cole Palmer on your bench or a Trent Alexander-Arnold on the bench is better than some of the names I did see, to be very honest. Because I want my teams to go out and play football and try and beat the teams by out-footballing them.

37:11And if anything, I think Thomas Tuchel has probably played a little bit safer with some of those names there. But we'll have this conversation every four years. People will disagree with me and they can disagree with me about who you want on that plane going over to the States. Well, you've got Gibbs White as well, who really threw his hat in the ring. And I agree with Alexander-Arnold. And the reason is, look, Tuchel doesn't like him, clearly. And we know defensively he has problems. But in games that are tight, that are very pedestrian, as a lot of international games can be, you need people that are going to make a difference.

37:49Even if it's 20 minutes, half an hour off the bench for Alexander to come on and whip some brilliant inner set piece or a 60-yard raking ball. And it's the same with Palmer, Foden and Gibbs-White. They're match changers, match winners. Even off the bench for a bit, to do some a little bit special, even out of form. The question would be, does he have enough with Eze and one or two others to do that? I think the one thing we know with this squad, he's laid it on the line, hasn't he? He's not just taken who everybody thought he would take. He's laid it on the line that this is the way he's going to do it.

38:21So it's either going to be pretty decent or it's going to be a spectacular failure. And if it is a spectacular failure, he's going to get dragged through the coals for this squad selection. So he needs this tickle. Of course, you always need to go and play well. But if you take all the star players and it doesn't go well, the blame game will be getting shared a little bit. The manager will get most of it, but a lot of these big-time Charlies will get it as well. When you leave a lot of them out, and almost every Tom, Dick and Harry is looking at the squad and going, wow, that's a bit left field.

38:57So is that one, so is that one. You need to make sure your team performs. Otherwise, he's going to get smashed. There's a lack of characters in that squad, isn't there? So you're saying it's not coming home? I don't... It's just strange, I mean... Number two, I don't think so. I played in a team at Sheffield Wednesday that was full of really good guys. Everybody worked hard, everybody was a good soldier, you know, never any trouble. But you know, we didn't win enough games because of that. You need something different. And it seems to me that... What's the difference make us? they just all seem to be good guys that are solid and they're going to play for the team they're going to work hard and yes you want your managers to be strong and say I'm doing it this way but at the end of the day is it the right way?

39:46I'm not so sure he's got the right squad I'm just not I'm not going forward Jordan Henderson's been a great professional there's no change there's not even a debate about that it's a bit like James Milner isn't it the guy was out of the world what a professional and Henderson's the same but really a 20-26 World Cup with a guy who struggled to get in the side at Brentford because of his age and is this where England are the headlines in the paper that Harry Maguire never made the World Cup if that's what England's issue is they are not going to do anything decent at this World Cup so the question will be does he have enough match winners or is he just reliant on 61 goals Harry Kane from Bayern Munich who was brilliant that's going to be the key question but listen by the looks of Thomas Tuchel he seems like the cat that's got the cream in naming this squad so that's what he gets paid the big bucks for and we'll find out how it works out and these days we'll be talking about it all summer thank you Maka so much for being with us we look forward to seeing more of you this summer as we cover the World Cup here on ESPN ESPN FC still will be available every single day on the lead up to the World Cup so make sure to be with us on ESPN Plus If you've shopped online, chances are you've bought from a business powered by Shopify.

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43:08One second. It's the last circle of the season. I told you the day before Parma. We win the two games. We are in the Champions League. I don't know why I told you I had a feeling. I always get my responses by feeling but guys this is all up to you it's all thanks to every one of you we try to help you we try to give you certain solutions you are the reason that this is beautiful I thank you for all my life all my life because this would be probably the best group I will ever coach in my future I have no doubts you will be remembered forever now we can say it and more. And that's it, guys. Enjoy a f***ing good holidays.

43:50Enjoy a big party. You deserve everything. Who else to the World Cup? All the best. And what are we playing next year? Stambo! What are we playing next year? Stambo! What are we playing next year? Stambo! Stambo! Stambo! Stambo! Stambo! That are lovely stuff. Gabriele Marcotti joining us now to talk a little bit more about this. We'll start with the positives here. We'll start with Como. How impressive a job has Cesc done there, Gab? Hugely impressive. Seven years ago, of course, Como were an amateur side. He's been there four years. You talk about programming, you talk about planning. People will point to the money that Como have spent, and they have spent a lot of money.

44:33But you know what? They only have the 10th highest wage bill in Serie A, and most of that goes to Alvaro Morata, who probably doesn't contribute as much as you'd expect. Guys like Nico Pass, of course, get the headlines. I I think he's a top 10 attacking midfielder in the world right now. So exciting. But it goes far beyond that. It goes to Baturina. It goes to Assangeau. It goes to Duvicas this season. And I'll tell you what. People think Sass. They think attacking football. Pretty football. Yeah, that's all great. They scored the second most goals in Serie A this season. They also had the best defence at the same time.

45:06So he's really been transformative this season. Okay, Nadim wants Cesc Fabregas as the new Manchester City coach. So let us know, Gab. Is he actually going to stay, Cesc Fabregas, at Como? I don't know. I would have thought Nadim would be pretty familiar with Manchester City and could walk right in there since they like him so much. They could tell him who the next City coach is. Pretty sure it's going to be Ains Omareska and not Cesc Fabregas. But I'll tell you what, a lot of people want Cesc Fabregas. I think he's going to stick around, give it a go in the Champions League. You know, he's a guy who, I mean, I first met him when he was 19 years old.

45:52So, who I've known him for a long time. He knows he's young for a coach. He wants to bide his time. He wants to do something. He wants to keep learning and growing. He knows he's not the finished article at all. So, you know, will he stick around there long term? I don't think so, but will he be there at least one more season? I have a hunch that he will. Before we move on to the disasters that happened on the final day, I wanted to know what you two thought of saying, go out there, go and have a party, go and enjoy it. Why shouldn't they? Hold on. You say that right up our street as if we're not normal.

46:29But you are complaining sometimes, and you can see why when some of the teams, you're saying that maybe we're not seeing that as much, we're not seeing some of that these days. So to hear that, I thought that would make you smile. Well, it did. Listen, we wouldn't need the manager to tell us to go and party. No, you definitely would not. Two teams who should not be partying right now are two of the biggest teams in the Serie A who failed to make the Champions League. That's Milan and Juventus. Let's start with Milan because there have already been changes happening here since this happened. Gab, tell us more.

47:06Well, metaphorically, it's a Monday Milan massacre. You look at this. Sporting director Iglitare, gone. Technical director Geoffrey Moncada, gone. CEO Giorgio Furlani, gone. And, of course, Max Allegri, gone. So the owner, Jerry Cardinale, of course, the American businessman, represents Redbird. He's come out and he said, you know, no, we're going to start over. This season was a failure. Zlatan Ibrahimovic is the only guy he's keeping around. But remember, Zlatan officially doesn't work for Milan. He's an advisor to the Redbird Fund who invested a whole bunch of different things. So within a week, they hope to have their new coach and the new CEO in place a week to 10 days.

47:56I don't know. I don't know what to think about this, Kay, because he also said, oh, things are going great. and then we had a bad couple months of the season when we started losing all these games. Well, the reason I have an issue with this is you cannot decide to keep or sack a manager based on missing out on the Champions League by a point or two points. It just doesn't make any sense. The reality is Milan were bad all season. It doesn't matter that they were second or whatever they were, you know, as late recently as January or February. It makes no difference. They were still playing bad football.

48:33Allegri still wasn't building anything at all. I've said until I was blue in the face. You can't just look at results because otherwise, guess what? It's like being the tallest of Snow White's seven dwarfs. And that's where Milan were under Allegri when he thought everything was going so well. So now all of a sudden, you miss out on Champions League by a point, and then you decide, ah, I'm going to go and fire everybody. You probably should have fired most of these guys before. You probably shouldn't have set up the situation. You shouldn't have said we're going to base the season on Luka freaking Modric, who's 40 years old.

49:05And look, Modric was fine, but obviously nothing long term there. Just as Adrian Rabiot, who I imagine will move on since he's, you know, basically Allegri's adopted son. Maybe Magic Mike Magnan as well. The sad thing for Milan fans is that four years ago, they won Serie A under Stefano Pioli. they had the youngest team in the entire league and they showed that you can win with kids you can win with smart signings with value signings uh and then all of a sudden i think right around the time actually that they sacked fonseca they decided to go off on this other direction let's build a team from scratch uh all of a sudden let's bring in all these veterans you know because nicholas full krug will put us over the top and and you saw what happened i hope for me the sake of Milan fans that there's been lessons learned.

49:55Okay. The other team, of course, is Juventus. Will we be seeing some big changes there, Gab? We might. That's TBD in the next 24 hours. I don't know that, to be honest, I don't know that there should be. Let me tell you what the difference between Juve and Milan is. Obviously, they made the wrong choice at the start of the season. Then they bring in Spaletti, under Spaletti. they actually grind out results. And they actually, at times, generally play reasonably well. They certainly are much more proactive, have much more of an identity than Milan do. Obviously, their summer signings didn't work out, whether it's Jonathan David or Lois Openda.

50:40But I think they were trending in the right direction. The reason they didn't qualify is they lost at home to Fiorentina on the second to the last day of the season. so they no longer control their destiny. That was a game that I think they were actually a little bit unlucky in, if you look at it in terms of chances created versus chances conceded. And then in the end against Torino, it really, frankly, didn't matter at that point. I think it would be a mistake to let Spalletti go. I think the Fabregas experience taught us anything, is that, hey, if you give a project some time, if you look for markers that you're trending in the right direction, then you might actually get somewhere.

51:18So I would imagine Spalletti is going to stick around. He should stick around. The trouble for Juventus compared to Milan in terms of, you know, investing money in the squad, turning things around, is that Milan have been a break even or profitable in the last three, four years. That is one thing that I think you can give them and the former chief executive Giorgio Furlani credit for. Juventus are still trying to work their way out of this massive hole of debt that was racked up by the previous administration when they were spending money left, right and centre and signing Cristiano Ronaldo and whatnot.

51:53That's going to take a lot longer to turn around. So I think Spalletti is going to have to work with what he has, maybe one or two signings. But I would expect him to certainly be competitive for a top four finish next season. OK, there'll be a lot more talk about the Serie A and how it all went down on the final day on the Gab and Jules show. That's dropped wherever you do get your podcasts. In today's world, planning ahead isn't always top of mind, but not having life insurance can leave families facing difficult financial uncertainty during already emotional times. In many cases, loved ones are left managing expenses, debts, or long-term obligations without a clear plan in place.

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53:57All right, Extra Time is coming up next. Can I have a question about Mexican football, please? A few questions coming. None of them have got Mexican football. Stick around, it's on the way next.

54:11Hello and welcome into the latest edition of Extra Time. Craig and Stevie are here in the studio. Gab Marcotti is joining us as well. All right, first question. Given that Eketike is unavailable until early next year and Salah just played his last game, Should Liverpool go after Jared Bowen this summer, would he fit into this team? Yes, absolutely he would fit in. I mean, saying yesterday, when you're playing in a team as poor as West Ham have been this season, but yet you still turn off every game and not only give your best, but actually be the difference maker whenever it came along. So yeah, Jared Bowen absolutely, in my opinion, would fit into Liverpool.

54:53Depends what age is he? I ask. Gab, do you know what age he is? 29 we've just been told. I think he's 29. We've just been told he's 29. Yeah, I was looking it up but Stevie answered the question rather sharply. I think you have to take that into consideration as well because Salah's age and he was leaving Van Dijk's age. Unfortunately they're in a position where they're going to have to maybe take a chance on something like that. I suppose he might not be. I suppose in terms of, you know, they've now been relegated. I don't know what his contract is all about in terms of clauses, but I wouldn't imagine he'd be super expensive, Gab.

55:32He's come out and he said that he wants to stay. Now, obviously, in situations like this, he may want to stay. The club might say, we've spent a lot of money, we need to recoup some so we can, you know, try to get back with bigger players. So it'll be entirely, I'd expect, down to him. What I can say is on a bad team, he's been exceptional, not just this season, but the last couple of seasons. But I think part of it is also at that age, you're not going to get any resale value if you're Liverpool. Do you want to put your money there when you might have a different manager a year from now? and also who's making these decisions are Michael Edwards and Richard Hughes sticking around who's going to go out and talk to you know Jerry Bowen you got to get your house in order there first I think Craig two years ago six Premier League clubs scored more than 75 goals only one team did so this season and last and it was City does this dropping goals from bigger teams show the greater resilience of smaller teams making the league more competitive

56:45I don't see the Premier League as some sort of defensive masterclass. No. I don't think it's been a particularly strong Premier League, to be honest. Or entertaining. So I don't know why the drop-off is off the top of my head. I couldn't tell you the rhymes of reason. But I don't think it's because all of a sudden the Premier League's turned into Italian football of the 80s when they could keep a clean sheet at will. Because they had really good defenders and most teams now were super organised. I don't know, Stevie. I think teams are not looking to go forward as quickly as they used to. And so that means that teams can get players behind the ball, which means it's going to be hard to score goals.

57:35and then even when you do get it forward to the edge of the box it ends up back in the halfway line and it feels like it's just been getting worse and worse as the years go on so the fact that teams seem to be more concerned about keeping the ball than actually maybe taking a chance and trying to score a goal maybe that's the reason Cam? Alright so Jules and I discussed this this very topic quite a bit I think it's a combination of factors. One is, as far as the 75 goals thing is concerned, you don't have the year that a couple years ago when it was Liverpool getting 98 points and City getting 99 or whatever it was.

58:20you don't necessarily have the dominant big clubs who will score more goals at the top. If you look at the big six, you can objectively say that Spurs, Chelsea, and frankly Liverpool underachieved this season. So I think, and those are the teams that you expect, if they're near the top, they're not just going to look to win games, they're going to look to perhaps score more goals. I think the other big factor, one is players in general are more athletic and cover more ground in the Premier League than they did five or ten years ago. And I also think, I'm going to trick this back to you guys, and don't worry, nobody's feelings will be hurt.

59:05If I were to ask you, how many bad managers have we seen in the Premier League this year? and then you look back to see who was managing in the Premier League five or ten years ago, I think the level of manager in the Premier League is a lot higher than it was. And certainly as far as being destructive, whether you choose to be destructive with a high press, whether you choose to go and park the bus, it's just harder to go and run up the score. Yeah, big teams will still beat smaller teams, but they may score late. it's a lot more physically draining than it was. I think all these factors tend to combine.

59:49Gab, Manchester United is linked with Atalanta's Edison. What can you tell us about him? Well, I can tell nobody wants to name who they think is a bad manager in the Premier League. Cricket's over here. I don't think Scott Parker is very good. Nice guy, well-dressed, but I don't think he's on a par with, I think he's sub-par compared to the Premier League average. But anyway, Edison had a monster season two years ago when I thought he was among the top two-way midfielders in Europe. This season, he's also had some injuries. Hasn't necessarily been on that same level. What I would caution with him, off the top of my head, I think he's sort of 26, 27.

1:00:30You're not getting a guy with a huge upside. And when you look at sort of the age profile of this United team and, you know, you've got Mbumo, you've got Cunha right around that age. You've got Bruda Fernandes who's right around that age. You might want to go for somebody potentially younger if you can. If he's at the level that he was two years ago, no, he's phenomenal. And, you know, he's a genuine, I would say, all-rounder who puts in the hard yards defensively, who has the creativity, who will get forward and score goals as well. I'm just not sure that the Edison of two years ago, that he's going to be back this season.

1:01:09Craig, who do you think should be manager of the year between Arsenal's Arteta and Sunderland's Libris?

1:01:20Well, I mean, there's no right and wrong answer really. But, Libris has been brilliant, of course he has, but Arteta's won the league and may win the Champions League. So, I mean, it's like having the player of the year halfway through the season, isn't it? I mean, the season isn't over for Arsenal. You know. Apples and oranges, budget at once. I mean, it's like... Yeah. Both have done a great job. I don't care. Honestly, I get pretty off with these kind of things. If Arteta wins the Champions League, you have to give it to Arteta. And if he doesn't?

1:02:04Yeah, I think I'd still give it to Arteta. Look at the end of the day, had Arteta not won the Premier League, he might have lost his job.

1:02:16Sunderland, all Sunderland had to do and all Le Brie had to do was finish what? 17th? But it just so happens that they've actually won a lot more games than we thought they would. but the pressure has been on Arteta all season so I would give it to Arteta. Gab?

1:02:38You can't go wrong with either choice, I would throw in a third. Andoni Raola, when you consider somebody who loses three quarters of his starting defence in the summer and then loses arguably his best player in January And then the team actually gets better without Antoine Semenyo and they take it down to the wire for a spot in the Champions League. I think that's absolutely tremendous and for me it's on a par with Libri and Arteta. Okay, you may discuss Fergie vs Pep but overall neither can compare to Don Carlo. It's harder to win in different leagues than to stay at one club. Is it? I'm not getting involved in any Guardiola, Ancelotti, Sir Alex Ferguson debates.

1:03:33It's for online morons. Sorry about that. Dad, Carlos is your friend. Love him. I'm the biggest Carlo Ancelotti fan here. What I would say is that, first of all, Ferguson and Pep also won in different leagues. Yeah, exactly. But the one thing I would add is that Ferguson's done something, which Pep's never done, and which Ancelotti's never done. He won European silverware with Aberdeen, the last team not named Celtic and Rangers to go and win in Scotland, and then he does it again in Europe before he ever got to Manchester United. That, to me, is an achievement because, you know, let's say Ancelotti and Guardiola and Fergie United, they had tremendous players, they had tremendous resources.

1:04:30That's a different skill set. They did very well with that. I would love to see what can these guys do with lesser teams. I don't know what Pep's plans are. He's always said that if he ever were to come to manage in Italy, he'd go and return to Brescia and coach them. They're in the playoffs for promotion to Serie B. maybe that's what he wants to do. I'd love to see one guy saying, you know what, am I actually good or do I just have really good players? Can I work with mediocre guys? I'd love to see one of these guys saying, you know what, I'm going to give it a go. I'm going to go and manage in the second division somewhere with a small budget and I'm really going to test myself and challenge myself.

1:05:08But you know what? I ain't holding my breath. Ain't going to happen. And, you know, he did that. I'm not, I wouldn't, I'm not interested in the... Well, he did that before he went, Sorry, sorry. Fergie did that before he was Fergie. Fergie did that on the way up. But I'd love to see a guy, after they've been successful, go back and do that. That Aberdeen side that Ferguson put together with some great players that we all, Stevie and I know, winning that European trophy, they beat Real Madrid. But that was a time, and they ousted Celtic and Rangers as the dominant force in Scottish football. And that was back then, because people say now Scottish football and it's not the best these days but back then it was it was it was very competitive because you had done the United under Jim McLean were going to the Camp Nou and beating Barcelona I mean they wouldn't even get a touch of the ball now they went to the the Camp Nou so you know that was it wasn't it was back in the day when actually Scottish football was a really good standard and yet he built a side that was the top of the tree and then he went south and took him a while and came close to it going wrong but and rebuilt down there but there's not there's no rights and wrong answers here yeah with these managers you know I mean it's like there's no right and there's no wrong all right no wrong but that is the end of extra time thank you that is right sending in your questions it is right we are done we'll be back tomorrow to do the same again

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