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26:58I don't know. I can put a finger on it, but I think something is missing. And as long as they don't resolve the problem, maybe tactically. It's just the players aren't good enough, aren't they? Isn't that simple? You look at France yesterday, how good they were. But look at the quality of the players that they have, for example, in that front three. And compare it to England today. It's night and day. Well, the English media were waiting for Thomas Tuchel to screw this up, and they were going to say, you needed game changers, and you left Foden, you left Palmer, and you left Gibbs White at home.

27:26I know they've not been playing well, Gibbs White apart, but you left them at home. You went for pace in the wide areas, and it's not working. The trouble I've got with going for pace in the wider areas, Madweke, Rashford, Gordon, is that most of the defenders at international football now are as quick as the attackers. So when you're not getting the better of a full-back, because he's got as much pace as you, you need to bring something else into the equation. Somebody with a little bit more guile that can make a difference. Eze is kind of that player when he came on, but do they have enough of them?

27:58That is the question. Look, Messi's got Argentina, Brazil's got Vinicius Junior, France has got them all, but England at least can hang their hat on they have a brilliant, brilliant, and I mean brilliant footballer up front who not only scores goals, but he leads the team and I jokingly talked about he fell over for the penalty or the penalty non-call, which he did. But he is, without a doubt, just the guy that England are hanging their hat on to get them out of hole when they're in trouble. And they were in trouble today. Did you see Tuchel on the sideline? Midway through the second half, he was screaming at everybody, particularly Jed Spence, because he knew he was on the block at that point.

28:41But the problem is the fact that Messi, for example, the old team runs for him. The old team fights for him, for him to shine. And that's what the English team has to do with Kane. So don't be another star. You have to sacrifice. And some people will have to sacrifice. And I think about Jude Bellingham, for example, for Harry Kane. So do the work. Work hard defensively, offensively, for Kane to shine. And it's how it worked for Argentina. And I'm pretty sure it's going to work like that for England. I'll tell you where England are. And you can, as an Englishman, can agree or disagree. They're playing Mexico and the Aztec at altitude and we have no idea what that England team's going to be.

29:23I want to talk about that game. I want to talk about that game in a moment, but first, just a word from you on Harry Kane. In particular, that second goal. Something else. I think he had two chances today and he's put two away. Clinical, character, personality. He wants to be that guy. and he's continued to do it for the last 10, coming on 15 years now. He is colossal. And I said it a few weeks ago when I came on the show, I don't really know where England would be without him. I worry about England moving forward after he's gone because he has literally... He's not gone yet. No, I'm not. He's not going anywhere from the moment.

30:09No, I know. I like it. Let's go. Let's go to someone who's always happy. Kevin Egan joins us now. And, of course, the game was in Atlanta. And he was with the England supporters. And I imagine you saw quite the rollercoaster of emotions during that 90 minutes, Kev.

30:27Oh, without a doubt, lads. Welcome to the Irish exit here in downtown Atlanta. A great buzz. The English fans coming back, steps from Mercedes-Benz Stadium or Atlanta Stadium, as it's called, during the tournament. And there was nearly a sense of, well, it was always going to happen, Harry Kane. and I don't know if the feeling is that you got away with one here a little bit. And the one thing I'll say, Craig Burley, they're obsessed with the Scots here. Everything is always Scotland, get battered everywhere they go. Like, sing about your own football team. Right. Why have we got you on? Why are you on being so negative towards England as well?

30:58What's the point of that?

31:05What's the feeling, Kevin Monkstrom, looking ahead to Mexico?

31:11Do you know what? The feeling here is, it's interesting listening to you guys, because people here are saying, well, Mexico have to come out of their shell. Mexico have to nearly set the tone, and they'll go after England, and that might actually suit England. I'm intrigued to get the guys' thoughts on that one, because it will be at altitude, it will be hotter, although the temperature's not too bad in Mexico City right now. But they'll go for the game. There's a great buzz, great sense of momentum in Mexico right now. And England, that game will be open for them to play back and forth. But if they go at Madueke like he played today, I'm not so sure they'll penetrate that Mexican defence too much.

31:43God, we've already started with his excuses. I can see it now. Altitude. Oh, my God. Tired. We're already talking about it. Let's take a look at the bracket, shall we, and confirm what happens next Sunday. We'll see Mexico take on England at the Azteca. Meanwhile, before that, it's Brazil against Norway. Brilliant games on Sunday. Looking ahead to it, Kieran, If I was to ask you for a percentage, what would you give England's chances going into this tie?

32:15I'll give them more than 50 % still. Well, give us a number. I'm going to say 60%. OK. Really? 60 %? Yeah. Why? Because we've got Harry Kane. Have you been watching the tournament? I think because we've got Harry Kane. He's a superstar. Argentina have Messi, France have Mbappe. No, France and Mbappe, they have Alize, they have Barcola, they have Dewey, they have Dembele. But England, we have Harry Kane. And so while he's on the pitch, we have a chance. How would you chop it up then? Well, you know what? When I saw Mexico playing against Ecuador yesterday, that was a hell of an atmosphere. And with the heat and everything, I think England is in trouble.

32:55It's the altitude, France. The altitude, yes, true. They are in trouble. And I give 50-50 because of the history. Well, you can't sit on the fence, can you? You've done that enough in the history. Well, you can't. OK, if you say so. No, no, I'm going to go 50-50 because... No, you have to choose one, Frank. You can't just... No, but it can be a 50-50 game. It can't be a 50-50 game. There has to be a winner. They don't both go through to the quarterfinals, do they? You have to pick one. It can be 50-50 in terms of who you think is going through. I'm going for Mexico. Right. According to what I saw yesterday against Ecuador and what I saw when we saw today with England, I have to go for Mexico.

33:32And Mexico didn't lose a competitive game since 1930, something like that. You know what would be interesting, though, Frank? Because I think Mexico are a team that like to come out and attack a little bit more. We face teams that like a defensive low block, and we struggle against those teams. But I'll be interested to see what happens when teams come out. Because that... Yeah, yeah, like France and Spain, yeah. You'd be loving to see France and Spain come out, and Portugal, and all those teams. The way England have played. He's not letting us off the hook today, is he? New York early is a lovely family.

34:04Who would you go for? Who would you choose? Scotland. I was sitting here before. I think it's a 50-50. I do. So you're sitting on the fence? You're not going to give your opinion? I've never played at altitude, so I've no idea what it does to you. Right. Does it make you tired? No, you're tired. You're tired of breathing. It makes you tired. It makes you dizzy. It makes you weak. It's also the smog. Well, there must be altitude here. Well, there's a smog. There's a smog pollution factor to it. So is everyone watching? You said that Argentina has Messi. You said that Brazil has Vinny and France has all the rest.

34:36Mexico has the Azteca, and that's the ultimate equalizer. That's insane. You saw the scenes for Ecuador at the hotel, the players' hotel, till the early morning. The fans were out there with the drums, with the flares, all the concave tricks. When they get to that stadium, they're going to realize how mythical that stadium is. And you may say 50-50, and I'm surprised the English are already forfeiting this match. I thought they'd have a little bit more backbone here. I thought they would say it's coming home. But to face a CONCACAF nation and already say it's 50-50, that really surprises me. Craig's not English.

35:07He's not saying it's 50-50. Kieran said 60-40. Don't paint everyone with the same brush. I'm just interested, though, for somebody who's never played at that sort of altitude, you mentioned it. What's going to be the main thing for an England player that's never played at that before? How quickly is that going to hit them? How quickly could that hit them? and as you said... Yeah, walking into the hotel room when you get to that flight of stairs. When you go up the elevator. That's when you're going to realize you're at altitude. Yeah, when you go down the mountain. You know, you walk a little bit and you're out of breath.

35:38And once you start training, because they'll be training... They have, what, two to three days, Jermaine, to get acclimated because they're going to go Atlanta to Mexico City. You're going to realize really quick the effects on the body and the ball, the travel, the flight. So who are the favorites in your eyes, Herc? The favorites in my eye are Mexico. This is something that when the World Cup draw came out and we did the... If this goes first place, they go first place, it would be in Azteca. I said it back in December. I'm going to see the English melt here. And the way they're playing in this tournament, on paper, I do think Mexico's favorite.

36:06Now, they could lose this game as football, 11-11. But right now, they're relying on one player. And we saw them play against Panama in struggle. We saw them play against Ghana in struggle. We saw them play against Congo in struggle. Mexico right now has zero goals against and they're playing at home. If this was anywhere else, I'd say it's the English just to take. Jermaine, who do you have, mate? I'll go with Mexico. Yeah, the same way because I played over there and I know after 30 minutes, we were happy to go in and then we got put on and gas masks to breathe. With oxygen, yeah, because you just really feel it.

36:39It's not like you're feeling your stomach gets bloated and everything, so you really have to... So from a Mexico point of view then, right, bearing in mind what you boys have said and your experience, you want to play this game with as much intensity as possible. Not leaving yourself open at the back and going all here and scare them and rushing forward. But you want pace in this game. Because if you get pace, England are going to get tired very, very quickly. And then the game will open up. And that is absolutely going to suit Mexico. And as a Scotsman, that is music to my ears. Come on, Mexico!

37:10Brilliant! Bring on the healthy show. Alexis, Viva Mexico for you as well. Oh, Viva Mexico hasta la muerte. I cannot wait for that. Vamos, vamos, vamos, Mexico. It's not coming home. It's coming a casa? Is that what you're saying? It's coming a casa. For more talk about the World Cup, make sure to check out the latest edition of the Gavin Jules Show. And this man right here, Uri Tillemans, inspired his country, Belgium, to a stunning come-from-behind win over Senegal. You don't want to miss it. We're talking about it next.

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39:24Welcome back to one of the stunning views in the world, the Statue of Liberty here in New York, as nighttime has descended here over on the East Coast. But speaking of stunning views, if you are Belgium, then this was one for you indeed. Belgium clawing their way back to overturn a 2-0 deficit. Senegal were winning 2-0, but then Lukaku came on, scoring a goal in the 86th minute. And then Juri Tillemans was the main man for them, getting another goal just a few minutes later, and then was awarded a very controversial penalty in extra time that was eventually netted, and Belgium completed a 3-2 win.

40:04All right, well, we've also got Jurgen and Casey still here with us, But the talk of the town, Herc, is not about how Belgium pulled this off, but it was whether or not Belgium should have been awarded that penalty. What did you think? Well, that's how they pulled it off, and that's why we're talking about it. I wouldn't have called the penalty kick. I just mentioned in the previous segment that anytime you have a still frame and you freeze it, it can look like a foul. It can look like an infraction. Anytime you slow down something, it looks worse than it actually was. at full speed, I don't understand how you can call this a penalty kick, especially with what's on the line, especially in the moment in which this game, this infraction was called.

40:46No part of me thinks this was a foul. And the fact that we're having this discussion after the Malik Tillman, or excuse me, the Faller and Balagoon red card, I come up with the same feeling. It's the inconsistency that leaves me doubting where this is going and leaves me frustrated as a fan in the sport. Juergen, what did you make of it? yeah totally to discuss i mean you can have all sorts of opinion on this one i mean i think i mean it was not intentional he didn't want to hit him but he hit him it's in the box and uh you can give that as a penalty i mean for me obviously i favor the striker at that moment you know for me it's a penalty all right you're gonna be a penalty casey do i hear you chuckling over there well i'm i'm just chuckling because i think the rule is clear and obvious and it wasn't called in the match and then it took five minutes to figure out if it was a penalty or not so to me that shows that it wasn't clear and obvious so I would say the other thing if he had called it a penalty then I don't I don't think they clear and obviously could have not called it a penalty but I think when he didn't call it you go to VAR you look at it for 10 seconds you go oh yeah that's not obvious okay you go back and you say well I got to stick with my original decision and I think that's where it gets frustrated when you sit there for five minutes looking at 75 different angles and then you go well yeah yeah that's a penalty well that's not the rule the rule is clear and obvious it wasn't it should have stayed with the initial decision yeah and I am completely with Casey you know because it's for me it's even it's an amazing game from both teams yeah you know and then we have a lot of times now that the referee is the main person then because we discussed about is it or is it not the rule is clear that if it's a situation that it is something like where you look at it and you go it's a it's a penalty so and the referee will not seeing it but if he has to go to the to the vr he goes to the monitor and he looks at it and then he still takes so much time it's clearly that he's not 100 sure and and it goes with a discussion between the people behind the monitor and him yes no yes no and then it has to come to a to an end and to a call But I think it's just in moments like that where you have two teams battle till the end to go to the next round.

43:05I don't think that a referee has to come then into place to make that decision to give the clear win to Belgium. And it's a shame because one team's going home. Yep. Heartbreak for Senegal. Absolutely heartbreaking for Senegal. But in the end, it is Belgium that will go through and look at that. A familiar face as they will face off against the USA in the round of 16. Casey, a lot of the feeling is that despite the fact that Belgium walloped the U.S. in their last friendly five goals to two, Belgium have been very underwhelming from what we've seen in the World Cup, at least until they produced that stunning comeback here today.

43:40So this should be a comfortable game for the U.S. How do you feel? Yeah, comfortable. Yeah, sure. Ask Senegal how comfortable it was in those last 10 minutes. Look, this might not be the Belgium of the last 10, 8, 6 years, but Jeremy Doku on his day can absolutely tear defenders apart. Kevin De Bruyne can still make the play that nobody else on the pitch can make, and clearly Lukaku can still come off the bench and put the ball in the back of the net, plus all the other players, you know, Trossard, the list goes on. So Belgium's a very good team who hasn't quite peaked. Maybe that last 10 minutes plus being awarded that penalty was just what they needed.

44:29But I still, look, I don't think it's a team you fear, but it's also a team you have to extremely respect because on their day, they can be a very, very difficult opponent. Herc? Absolutely agree. Jeremy Doku was crazy good when they played against the U.S. Minutes. national team. Luka Bakio was a very good player when they played against the U.S. men's national team. Put the U.S. men's national team in some very compromising positions and put five goals on them. But the first 20-25 minutes was all U.S. men's national team. And they were very good. You take what worked for you, you learn from it, and you learn from what didn't work.

45:06And be careful what you wish for, but I think if you had to choose between the two, you would choose Belgium. Senegal presented physically and tactically a lot more problems for the U.S. men's national team. This is a very, very tight matchup, but one that I think the U.S. national team would be up for. Yeah, they'll be up for it indeed. And it will be a battle royale in that round of 16 game. Right. Just a reminder that ESPN FC, we are on every single day. Plus, in the morning time or late early afternoon, tomorrow, 12 p.m. Eastern time, you can catch us on ESPN2. All right. We're going to take a final break.

45:43But when we come back, we're going to be giving you guys predictions.

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46:44Pitch Preview is brought to you by DraftKings Sports. Right, here's a look at what to expect from World Cup action on Thursday. Spain against Austria. That's the earlier kickoff. Portugal against Croatia and then Switzerland. Oh, well, Switzerland also are in action in that one. That's the later game. Make sure you stay up for that one. Right, now it's time for the boys to put their money where their mouth is. And that is to give us some predictions, guys. Let's start off with Spain, who we were talking about Belgium being a little underwhelming. Spain have as well up against Austria, surely. España.

47:19She said money. You go first. Oh, money. I will go with Austria. 2-1 against Spain. Whoa! You're going with Austria, JJ? Yes. Wow. JJ's going for Austria. Her? No, no, no. La mía mal in Spain. And if they don't win this one back at home, that'd be three World Cups with no knockout wins. Last time was 2010. No, no. Absolutely not. I'm going to go with La Miniamal and La Furia Roja. Let's see if they finally show up to the party. Portugal up against Croatia. Portugal also being a little underwhelming. JJ, what say you? There I will go two. I'll go with Croatia 1-0. What? JJ, you're just choosing all the upsets.

47:57Yep. This one kind of makes sense, though. Croatia is the ultimate survivor, and Portugal hasn't exactly been lightening up or convincing people. That said, you've got to go with Roberto Martinez's team, one of the deepest player pools in this World Cup. I'll take Cristiano in Portugal. You're saying Cristiano will score? I'm taking Roberto Martinez in Portugal. You know what? I want to give a goal for the big man. Why not? Cristiano Ronaldo and Portugal to get past this one. And then that final game, Algeria are the ones that are facing Switzerland. How do you see this one going, JJ? Let me guess.

48:26You're going to go with Algeria? No, Switzerland. Oh, Switzerland. All right. JJ's going to go with Switzerland. Switzerland's a team that never really convinces. Maybe they'll finally get a knockout win. I'll go Switzerland as well. You're going with Switzerland in this one. All right, you know what? I'm going to go against the grain in this one, and I think I'm going to go with Algeria. I think they know how to suffer. They know how to fight. Maybe Riyad Mahrez will show us some more niceness last minute. But, JJ, you're going with two upsets, man. You're going against Spain and you're going against Portugal.

48:56Yeah, but, you know, for me, going against Spain is just because I'm believing that there will be surprises. And the same is with Croatia against Portugal. Portugal, Croatia is a good team. They've not been good in his defense. Spain has been very underwhelming. So we're going to have a World Cup where Germany have bowed out early, the Netherlands bow out early, Spain bow out early, and Portugal bow out early. And the U.S. becomes World Cup winner. And the U.S. becomes World Cup winners. I don't know what JJ has been having fatigue, but I kind of want some of that. Thanks for watching this edition of ESPN FC.

49:25We'll see you again tomorrow.

49:40Welcome in to Extra Time. Alexis Nunes here still hanging out with Hercules Gomez as well as Jermaine Jones. Casey Keller is up with us as well as Jurgen Klinsmann. They're hanging out in the West Coast. So let's get straight into the questions after what was a big day for the U.S. men's national team after booking their match in the round of 16. So, first question, which was worse, Messi or Balogun's foul? I suppose we could say Balogun, we know, got sent off. Messi did not. JJ? As someone who knows what it's like to commit some nasty foul. I would say both looked really bad when you look at the slow motion, right?

50:24But I think in that case, I would go for Messi. is for me more red cut than that one for the fall for Baligan. So I would go with Messi's fall was the worst one. Wait, did we ever find out how many red cards JJ got in his career? Was it 14? I said I had two. Yet. He wanted to clarify how the reds became. One was double yellow. The other four were because he punched somebody. I was going to say that. That was punching outright. All my days. All right, Herc, what about you? I'm going to go with Messi's not because of how it looked or what it was, but because of the conspiracy theories behind this, that Messi somehow gets favoritism from FIFA or from the referees, which is not the case.

51:02This is just a blown call. But certainly in today's social media age, it's going to get blown out of proportion, and it's going to look a lot worse because it's Messi. Juergen, what do you think? Yeah, I agree. I go with Messi because it was more a red card than Battle Guns. Absolutely. Casey, do you agree with the boys? Sure. Plain and simple. Brilliant. All right, let's go to the next one. Yeah, go to the next one. Thank you. We've discussed that way enough. All right, next one. Of the three host nations, who has the best chance to advance to the quarterfinals? Let's see. Canada is going to play against, who does Canada have?

51:44They'll have Morocco. Take them out of the equation. That's the hardest one. The U.S. have Belgium. That's actually on paper. This Belgium, how they're doing, a pretty favorable one. And the U.S., excuse me, Mexico has England. At the Azteca. I'm going to go with Mexico. I think the Azteca is the ultimate equalizer. And I don't think the English and how they're playing are ready for something like that. And it may be Harry Kane, Idiezmas, 10 others. But I don't know if they've ever been in a situation like this. And they are a pressure-filled bunch right now with Thomas Tuchel. Juergen, do you agree?

52:16Not all the way. I think the best chance to advance right now. just in the moment we are is the US. I think they have the momentum, they have the confidence, they have the players to really beat that Belgium team and to write a piece of history. I really think that they can do something very, very special. I think obviously the Canada game is very difficult, no doubt about it. Is it doable? Yes, it could be doable. But the Mexico game is a very, very tricky one. And I totally agree with whatever you guys said, you know, about that stake, about, you know, the altitude, about Mexico, that momentum that they have.

52:59But I think you have an English team that is unpredictable, you know, and when they can sit back a little bit and maybe don't have to breathe too much in the game because of the altitude. Oh, my gosh, they counter break you in a split second, you know, with Saka, with Bellingham, with Rashford on the left. and then obviously with the ultimate goal scorer, Harry Kane. They do not need to outrun Mexico because they are not capable to do that in that altitude. But I still think that they can hurt you in many ways and that's why I actually favor England in that match. Even if I know that Mexico is exploding at the moment, they're having fun, they are proud of their team.

53:42But they're also very pragmatic. I don't think that Mexico will just attack and go at England. And it will be, for me, it's a 50-50 game. All right. So we have one vote for the U.S., one vote for Mexico. Casey, what say you? Yeah, I think the U.S. has got the better chance. I think Morocco will overpower Canada. And I know England have not played particularly well. And I know Mexico has the Azteca. But if you before this tournament started, if you went player for player, there's not a Mexican player that would make the England squad. And so when you when you look at it that way, yes, the altitude will have an effect.

54:27And yes, it'll be an equalizing factor. But I think England will come good in the Azteca. Mexico has the Azteca. That's about as complimentary as Casey will ever get for Mexico and choosing Mexico on any day. All right. Next question. For all, we've long heard it's tough to create a true home field advantage in the U.S. Do you think this World Cup could change that? And was there ever a U.S. men's national team match where you felt that the crowd gave you that edge? JJ?

55:01I think it's for you I think for all three countries I think when you play at home in your home country I think you have that advantage you know in I think it was in that stick up with Mexico I think it was in Toronto with Canada and it's the same as like here with the with the US in in in the US and I think it's you know which which city exactly I don't know I think it's just here in the US I think when you look at the people how excited they are how they're you know dreaming, believing because of what the team showed. And I think it's a big part through what the fans do. And so, yeah, I think that the U.S.

55:37has a good fan base right now, and I think that can carry them far. Yeah, Herc, I think this is some of the best U.S. crowds we have seen. Absolutely. If we're talking about historically, Columbus, Ohio. That's the home of the United States men's national team. We played plenty of games there versus Mexico. I remember the September 11th game versus Jamaica, where it was booming there. It's Columbus. But in terms of this World Cup, what I saw at Seattle was second to none. That was really special. And it's a shame that Seattle doesn't get more games. Yeah, Casey, you were at that Seattle game. Was that one of the best crowds you experienced?

56:08Yeah, absolutely. And I think, look, I mean, when I go back to my starting time, you know, with the national team in, you know, kind of 89-90, where we would have, you know, so many different games where we were the away team. and slowly over time we've seen that change where the U.S. fans have gotten more and more into it where the federation started to schedule games so in areas where we would be the home team and still, look, we didn't play those two games in this World Cup in L.A. against Mexico and then we may have had a little different conversation but there's no question that the U.S. fan base is continually growing and continually getting more and more behind the national team.

56:57And it's just, it's good to see. Yeah, it's definitely been great to see. Juergen, the next question is for you. Many traditional powerhouses have not been successful recently. For example, the Netherlands, Germany, Italy, etc. Is this a reflection of poor development at a youth level, diminished domestic league, or just the natural ebbs and flows of generational talent?

57:22Well, all of them, all of them and many, many other things. I think for all those nations that, you know, there are the powerhouses and they were expected to go far, at least to the quarterfinals, semifinals. Those nations that went home, there are a lot, a lot of reasons for that. And I can probably talk more about Italy and especially about Germany. And Germany is paying the price for not being prepared to what they had to do. You know, they were not prepared for Paraguay. They were not aggressive enough, they were not determined enough, they were not smart enough. And it reflects a little bit the society right now, what happens in Germany.

58:01We struggle economically, we struggle politically. We are not the same Germany as maybe 20 years ago, 30 years ago, where we were, you know, hands-on, we were decisive, we were always doers. And the players that reflect the teams right now, they're not getting the jobs done. And this is a sad moment for those big powerhouses. But there are plenty of reasons for them. And the only way to change that is change. They have to change a lot of things. Have to change a lot of things indeed. And final question, Herc, defensively speaking, what does Mexico need to do to contain the likes of Harry Kane and Jude Bellingham?

58:44I hope they get food poisoning. So you think it's impossible? starting point. Very likely. Listen, Jude Bellingham didn't score today, but he was one of the better players on the field. And he had three or four point blank hitters that were blocked. And he was all over the place. And Harry Kane is Harry Kane. And he scored a couple of goals. And one was a worldly. So you can't really hope to bottle him up defensively. You have to hope you can limit service to these players and that the altitude and whatever other factors you may have going for you take over because it will be a tall task. That said, I'm very interested to see these players, these English players in these elements.

59:23Like, you know, he's the Mexican, you know. I have to say, I don't think even that England has the chance, you know, in Mexico. What are you saying? 60-40, like Kieran said? For me, it's pretty clear. I had this discussion with him over and I said, I don't like how they played, but they won. And I think now the last game when you saw how they played, they played good football. What I saw from England is nothing that I say now here and stand here and say, oh, they're going to Etzeneca and they will run Mexico in ground. You know, so in ground. No, I think Mexico will go as the winner out of this game.

59:56If they continue the game, what they did in the last game, England has no chance. Because they rely only on one player. He has to show up game for game. And if he's not showing up, they have a big problem. He is quite the player, though. As Jan described Erling Haaland as a get-out-of-jail-free card for Norway. That's exactly what Harry Kane is for England. Thanks so much, of course, to Juergen Klinsmann and to Casey Keller for hanging out with us today. We're going to let you guys go get some rest and a reminder that ESPN FC, we are on seven days a week and you can catch us on ESPN+.

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