55 is the New 30 with Jennifer Fisher

17:56Jennifer Fisher:That better not be on your ankle next time I see you. I had like a moon and a star. So it looks like a weird like cigar burn on my ankle. It was like before they knew how to take tattoos off. So I had one removed. I'm still in the process of it. It's so bad. Yeah, it's a lot. Everyone's like, what's your biggest life advice? I was like, don't get tattoos in your 20s. Just like, wait until you're older. I was like, what's your bad stage? I just keep looking at your skin. it's amazing. This is new. I've just had microneedling with exosomes and I just got so good in here. You know what? I also, this was a big part of my questions for you.

18:23Sure. I want to talk about like what your protocol is because you're so beautiful. Thank you. And you're, you know, you have, you're really good about like interviewing your functional medicine doctors and talking about things that you do and promoting the gorgeous hair extensions that you wear. So I want to talk about like, what is your, cause you are fucking to die for stunning. Thank What are some things that you do to keep up, you know, your like maintenance things? And then what are like everyday things that you do that are non-negotiable?

18:47Jennifer Fisher:Well, first of all, I had my face done when I was 50. I had a facelift. I had a mini facelift when I was 50. What's mini? Mini. It's not a full facelift. I didn't do a brow lift. I didn't do a whole big thing. I did a mini lower. So I went to a doctor. So COVID hit and I, right before COVID, I had had this, this needling done to my, it was sort of like a radio frequency internal needle for like lifting your skin. and it failed on me. And my entire neck separated from my face. Yeah, it was traumatizing. So I kind of did it a little earlier than I would have wanted to, but I didn't really have a choice.

19:24Jennifer Fisher:It was really bothering me. I really just wanted to fix it. And so I interviewed a ton of doctors and that's very important. You know, I'm not saying everyone should go and get facelifts, but you need to do your work and you need to meet a million doctors. And I knew when I met Catherine Chang, who was my doctor in Los Angeles, that she was the one. Tiny hands. She's un-fucking-believable. She's amazing. She gave someone I know a facelift. It's like the coolest. She just gave someone who we all know who's very famous a facelift and she looks incredible. I mean, all the famous people. This woman was at dinner with me three weeks after her facelift.

19:50Jennifer Fisher:Oh, I was at work five days later because Kat is so gentle and she's so amazing. Like, I can't recommend. Do you use her product? I do. I love them. I love, and you know one thing about her face mask too? Did you notice that if you bend over, it doesn't fall off? Yes. And she said she worked so hard on that. For that. I didn't even think about it. For that. I used one this morning and it fell off. And I was like, I need more Kat's face mask. I hate when you put a face mask on and you're just like a fucking frozen cat. You can't do anything. Yeah, you can't move. So hers do not fall off. She worked really hard to do that.

20:15Jennifer Fisher:No, I'm not paid by her. I just love her so much. She's also, because we guys text, she's just amazing. And she will do my next one because she knows where the bodies are buried, literally, like I would never let a doctor in there. But that was a long time ago. But I also, I'm a big believer in skincare and using the right products. I use, well, a couple of my doctors. So Dr. Dan Belkin here in New York is my germ in New York. Dr. Jason Diamond is my doctor in Los Angeles. I do use medicine, his products. I do too. I love them. I do too. I think they work. I really do. I've tried a lot of like bullshit stuff from doctors.

20:45Jennifer Fisher:I think the plasma is why my skin looks so good right now. Agreed. I had six stitches in my nose. I had 15 recently. I'm not at six. I just had six. They were just taken out. From what? My birthday weekend. Oh my God, shut up. Yeah, I had a good time. Yeah. I got bit by a dog. No, my daughter got bit by a dog and has a scar on her nose. No, I adopted a dog. We still have him. I love him. He didn't mean to. It was an accident. it. But my mom was like, just tell people you got drunk. And I was like, what's worse or better? Getting bit by a dog. It's like better than like saying that. You would rather everybody think I'm fucking drunk mess.

21:18I know what happens. I know. I know. I smashed my nose when I was in my 20s. I smashed it. Where were you?

21:23Jennifer Fisher:Oh, I smashed it. It was right after. It was right after. I was here in New York. It was right after I had a great weekend and I just, you know, decided to go in. But I can't see anything on your nose. Well, that's why it's a good idea to be friends with your doctors. So I like texted immediately. Dr. Lotfi sewed me up. Dr. Tony LaBruna, who's like the eye guy of New York is also, they're all in the same doctor. Wait, Philip Lotfi? Yes. I am very good friends with him. Oh my God. He fixed my nose. My husband just made his suits for his wedding. Oh my God. I love him so much. His fiance. I met his fiance because he came in to fix that she was there.

21:56Jennifer Fisher:That's amazing. He did a great job. Hot Dr. Phil. He's so amazing. amazing. And Dr. Turner too, who's in the same office who did my boobs, saved me from a doctor who ruined me here in New York City and fixed them and made them smaller and fit my torso better because that one doctor, everyone knows here, loves to give you big boobs and messes you up. So I went back and made them smaller with this doctor and then he scarred me. And so then Jordan fixed me. So Jordan's amazing. So that entire office is like the warmest, nicest office in the world. I've known Dr. Phil forever from my husband. They were friends.

22:28Like we, when we were, when we were dating like 10 years ago, he was like an emergency room doctor. He's the kindest, nicest guy. And he gives great stitches. I know I'm never here long enough to do something with him. And I'm like, I need to go in and have him do something and like do like a whole post about it. Well, let him do his stitches. Incredible. Whatever it is.

22:43Jennifer Fisher:Incredible. He's never done anything on me. He just happened to be Dr. Labrino wasn't there and Dr. Turner was upstate. So he was the guy. Oh my God. So cool. Saved me and did an amazing job.

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23:37So she had a million clients that loved her. And she kind of put together this like really amazing program of products in her office and then realized that she could just be making these products, stripping them down to their baseline and creating the perfect system for her clients. So there are a few products that I have on repeat. The toning pads are my most used. I can tell when my skin is feeling really dull, things aren't really absorbing, right? And these exfoliating pads help remove all that like extra layer, all that texture. And it keeps my skin smooth, clear, and even. You just wake up glowing.

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27:17And what are your like daily routines at home? Cause I'm sure you have just like a fabulous routine and then I want to get into food.

27:22Jennifer Fisher:Well, yeah, but we should also talk about hair growth because I've got been on this hair growth journey. You don't have that problem. Do you? I have very thinning hair because I have PCOS. I like very, so I'm on a lot of stuff, But tell everybody why, you know, you lost a lot of hair. So I went through chemotherapy when I was 30 and my hair never really came back. And I have very, I have a lot of hair, but it's very fine and it's very curly. And I don't like it very curly. And so I was my entire life. I fought it. So I bleached it. I've done, I've straightened it. I've keratined it. I've done everything to it.

27:48Jennifer Fisher:And at one point, right before COVID hit, I had a bob because they had burnt my, I had a platinum, like a platinum blonde bob, which was not the most flattering thing. And they had burnt the back of my hair off at this one salon, which will remain unnamed. And I had to like grow it out. And so that I started using, I used extensions when I was younger. My hair has just never been like how I really wanted it. Like it's finally where it is now is like - It's been like this for a while, right? It's been like this for a while. But I've been on this journey of like trying to grow it out. Red light therapy.

28:15Jennifer Fisher:I'm a big believer in the red light helmet. I wear the Pye Rose hat all the time. I'm a big believer in that. I wear it twice a day. Some people say that's too much, but I don't care. I use it morning and night and it's making my hair grow much faster. I really don't, I'm on peptides. Dr. Amanda Kahn is my peptide doctor. I do believe GHK, glutathione, all of those things, NAD, I think it all helps with hair growth. I am now taking bioidentical estrogen, which I think is really helping also. I was scared to do it because I live with a desmoid tumor and I still have it. But so far, so good. We just did my bloods again the other day.

28:48Jennifer Fisher:Because I can make that grow. Well, some say that it's hormonally driven. Some say it's trauma driven. We don't know what mine is from. Unclear. Where is it? It's on my left chest wall. and I got it not long after I had my first breast implants in Los Angeles in like 1997, right after Matt and I broke up. And I, no one knows. I went on a higher dose pill and like, maybe that contributed to it, to it growing quickly. It grew pretty quickly. I noticed it at a wedding, my best friend's wedding at Tribeca rooftop. And there was like a bump on my chest and everyone thought it was breast cancer. And no one really knew what desmoid tumors were at that point.

29:20Jennifer Fisher:And what is it? It is a soft tissue sarcoma. So it's technically not cancer. It's a sarcoma, but it can metastasize if it's given, if it's, if it's given blood. So like it, this one doctor cut into it and should have never done that, but I got really lucky and it didn't metastasize. But now there's medications, which are great, that can just can treat them. And that's what you did. That's what the chemotherapy was for. I took, did chemo. So the first doctor, the breast cancer doctor thought it was breast cancer. Thankfully, Kevin's father at the time was a doctor and well-connected and got me into a doctor at UCLA that specialized in soft tissue tumors, which were kind of like, you know, unknown.

29:53Jennifer Fisher:And he's like, listen, slow down. You're not going to die. Let's take this slowly. Because the first doctor wanted to do a full resection. And these types of tumors are like octopuses and they grow into your muscle and around your bone. And so the resection would have been, I would have lost my pectoralis major, minor, my serratus and my collarbone and I'm left-handed. And so this doctor said, wait, let's try chemo first or we can do radiation next and resection will be our last, our last resort. And the chemo worked. Incredible. So I went through 12 rounds of high dose methotrexate chemotherapy at Cedar Sinai and here at St.

30:22Jennifer Fisher:Vincent's when it was still down here. downtown and I had, I was a stylist and an amazing commercial director that, um, Eric Joyner at tool. Hi. Um, that had me working by coastally and really supported me through this. So, and working through it, going through it was really, really helpful. I was sitting next to, I was with the Dome and Girls last night at dinner and their mom is in town too. And I was sitting next to her and she had breast cancer many years ago and went through chemotherapy. And she looked at me and said, it was the most traumatic thing. She said, my bones hurt and recovering from that was really hard.

30:54What was that process like for you?

30:56Jennifer Fisher:It was really hard. I mean, the type of chemo that I had years old is like so young and scary. And the type of chemo that I had, they would walk in in hazmat suits carrying. No. Yes. Carrying like highlighter yellow chemo that they pumped into my body for eight hours and you're admitted to the hospital and you lay there for eight hours and you get. I lost my memory. I can't remember people's names from high school, like it, cause it crosses your brain barrier. And so there's, it affected my memory. I mean, there's a lot of things that came out of it that are, that are still to this day hard for me.

31:26Jennifer Fisher:So people think I'm kind of ditzy sometimes, but I can't remember certain things, but it's from the chemo and, you know, and then the type also you had to flush it a certain time. And thankfully Kevin was there with me. He was so good to me and like made sure I was, I still can't drink Fiji water though. Cause I would use Fiji to flush. And so the taste of it is kind of like PTSD. Of course. Yeah. It's crazy. I mean, and it was, it was, it was really hard. And I didn't lose all of my hair. I lost a lot of my hair. And the good thing is, is the doctors were mindful enough, though, to give me a type of chemotherapy that would make sure that my eggs were still okay to have children.

31:56Jennifer Fisher:And at one point when we were going through trying to have children and it wasn't working, we're like, oh, maybe something happened. Yeah. But Shane and Drew are here naturally after all of that stuff. It's so crazy. It's so crazy. I had a friend who passed away from a car accident after surviving cancer, but also was able to have like a miracle baby post chemo, which I think is really fascinating. I mean, it's like really incredible. These little spirits that are just meant to be here kind of like defy science. And I just, I say that to women all the time that are trying to conceive and they're, they're fed up with it and they're, they're feeling, you know, they're obviously like, I don't know how much longer I can do this, my body, the shots or whatever they're doing.

32:37Jennifer Fisher:And it's just not working. And I'm just like, when it's your time, it's your time. And it's God's stuff. Just let God do the work. Just trust, like trust the universe. Not to sound like my good friend, Gabby Bernstein, but like, she's right. Like you trust. She's the best. Yeah. You seem like he would be just like. She's my bestie. Fabulous bestie. He's my bestie. How did we get into, well, obviously, I think it's pretty obvious going through everything you've gone through physically that you, you know, are very aware of wanting to feel good. And how did food become such a big part of your life that you ended up having like your own line of salts and a cookbook?

33:11Jennifer Fisher:Well, food has always been a big part of my life. Growing up in Santa Barbara, my dad was a big gardener. we were like before school, we would like water the plants in the garden and pick raspberries and all that kind of stuff, like a very Santa Barbara family. He would grill all the time. He was into tri-tip. So food was always part of like entertaining for family was always part of my life. And I always loved it. I went to cooking class after school. My art teacher like taught me how to make brownies and like, you know, I learned how to make an egg in a Montessori school. Like I always loved food and I always loved being around it.

33:36Jennifer Fisher:Like loved it. Like, and so I had lived with Hashimoto's my entire life, you know, since I can remember. And no one really knew how to treat women with hashi because doctors aren't given nutritional training, which hopefully that changes soon. And so I kind of had to figure out on my own. You know, I had a great endocrinologist who was a female here in New York that finally was like, listen, you need to stop eating gluten. And it was the first time when I moved to New York that anyone had ever said to me, stop eating gluten. So progressive at the time. Right. But I was okay. But still, I was eating, you know, gluten things and things that you buy at stores are filled with shelf stabilizers, you know, cane sugar, seed oils, all the things you really don't want to be eating, gums and stuff.

34:10Jennifer Fisher:So I read, Dr. Will Cole wrote actually the forward to my book and I read his book right post COVID. You know, remember when you had like quarantine every 10 days when you're going back and forth to LA and I didn't want to get my staff sick. And I was opening, I built my, built my Beverly Hills store during COVID sight unseen. I never even saw it. And then we went to open it in February. I was, I was at a hotel having a quarantine and I bought, I bought a bunch of books and I read real cool ketotarian and it changed my life. Literally. It was like a light bobbled off. I was about to turn 50 and I was like, wait a minute, I'm doing everything.

34:40Jennifer Fisher:There's, I'm doing small things wrong. So I was still, you know, I wasn't watching to make sure that I was, you know, the cane sugars, the gums, the dairy. That's another thing for me. So I'm dairy-free, grain-free, gluten-free, obviously. I, I really watch my nightshades, but I do love tomatoes and peppers. Of course. And I try to limit my legumes just for me. I mean, everyone's different. I don't just, I don't drink sparkling water either. I just, there's certain things. And I think, you know, anti-inflammatory living sounds like a diet, but it's not. It's really just going back to what's very basic and real and like real food, whole foods.

35:10Jennifer Fisher:That's really it. Whole foods and limit. If you're going to have dairy, great. Like do it and limit, do it in moderation. I drink alcohol also. That's part of my thing too. I like alcohol and I, it's really a way of living. When people come on the podcast and they're like, I don't drink alcohol. I'm like, we can't. Because this is, by the way, I know that you have created a system for yourself that feels like you are eating in abundance and that's what you're teaching people. And it's really incredible. And I love when you go through the aisles and you're like, this is what I'm going to have for lunch.

35:39And this is like, you make it look delicious and all of that. But when people do that and they don't have any sort of vice or like have anything that, you know, it's like, we have to just, you have something.

35:50Jennifer Fisher:I love a margarita. I love alcohol. It's fun. I love champagne. I mean, I had too much yesterday. And then tonight again, as I'm taking my whole team out for drinks and we're doing a whole thing too, but I, you know, drink clean tequila. I use Lalo. Lalo is like clean, like make sure you're just whatever you're putting your body, use fresh lime juice. Don't use packaged lime juice. It's like simple swaps. Go through your entire pantry and read all the labels and get rid of anything that has any form of like a, you know, palm oil, canola oil, safflower, sunflower oil, any of those things that are not great for you.

36:18Jennifer Fisher:And they're in most of your like chips and your snacks. And I'm, I'm a snacker. So, you know, I, and I also limit dried fruit a little bit because of the mold and I'm careful with my coffee. Like there's just, it's all about your gut and making sure that you are, because that's really the center of nerve, that's center of your body. I'm a big old gut believer, all of this stuff. How do you get into, I mean, I know how, but like, yeah, but it's so funny because I remember seeing like, I saw it online and I was like, it's weird. I was like, I was like, this is so weird. And then I was like, no, I love when brands lean into like a whole lifestyle behind the fucking person who owns the brand.

36:53Right. It's like, obviously people follow you. You're obviously such an inspiration to everybody. The brand is called fucking Jennifer Fisher. If you're posting about

37:00Jennifer Fisher:what you're doing and you're like making these delicious things, like obviously people are going to be like, can I buy what you're fucking making? Yes. And the salt was just such a cool, obvious thing that was so not obvious. No, but it was honestly, it was a total fucking accident. I went to, so my great endo that I used to go to, she was like, eat more protein in the morning. So I was like, okay, I'm going to go find something delicious to put on my eggs every day. And I went to, I scoured every grocery store, any specialty store, and I could not find anything to put on my eggs that wasn't like a barbecue rub or potpourri.

37:26Jennifer Fisher:And I'm like, this is all going to It tastes like shit. This is not what I want. So I made my universal salt and it has no garlic or onion in it. So you can eat it in the morning because I was like, I don't want to go to work with garlic bread. I don't want it. So universal salt has, and it has, so my father used to ship me his lemons from Santa Barbara and I always would squeeze them and I would grate all the rind and I would use them in my recipes. So it has not the pithy lemon. It has like just the beautiful lemon zest in it. This universal one is the first one. No, but I posted it on like, as one did, like back in the day, your egg avocado toast, like an asshole on Instagram.

37:55Jennifer Fisher:And like, but that's how my salt was born. It's incredible. People were like, oh my, because what do people, you put your jewelry on once a day and you take it off once a day, but you eat three times a day. I have salt bowl sitting out. I can't wait for you. You're going to like curry. On my counter. And then when you open our cabinet, we have like a three, I have like every different kind of salt bowl. I don't know why you haven't had this. But I started a new brand. I wanted to tell you. What is it? It's called Maiden. M-A-E-D-Y-M. So that's my, that's my food and lifestyle brand because it was getting confusing for people because I used to have recipes on the website and people are like, that's weird.

38:22Jennifer Fisher:like and so based off of sort of consumer data i wanted to start something that was completely separate so it's almost kind of functions also like a little bit of like a media company too because you're like it is it is you're doing you're doing so much like beautiful content creation and like showing all your doctors and like putting this whole like complete lifestyle i need you to be on gen with friends i need you to be on gen with friends yeah we need it yeah i want you to be on gen with friends is so cute by the way yeah it's so fun are you having just the best time of your life right now i'm having the best time it's so fun to be able to do stuff i've always wanted to do.

38:50Jennifer Fisher:Like, I only do what I want to do. Like I, and I'm only making things that I want to make. And it's, it's really fun, but it's really fucking hard. Like people are like, the grass, you know, is not, it's not perfect. You know, there are weeds every day that need to be picked. Sometimes stumps, you know, I had a stump yesterday. Like it's just like, does your husband still run the company with you? No, no, he doesn't. No, he's running maiden. Cool. He's running maiden. Yeah. So he's not in that anymore. That's incredible. But he does. I mean, he's my, he's my sole supporter. Like every day I come home and I'm like, you know, as I used to.

39:21Jennifer Fisher:So it's sort of, that's always been our relationship. So it's nice that he's still there and he's so supportive of everything. And he's, you know, he's sort of my behind the scenes sort of like, you know, you should handle this this way. And you know, he's still, he's great. He's fantastic. I love that. And not that 55 is like, which is fucking great. Yeah. That's what I'm saying. Like, I was saying not that 55 is like old or anything by any means, but like I get met DMS from girls all the time. They're like, I'm freaking out because I'm 27. like freaking out because I'm 30. I'm freaking out. I'm like, I'm about to be 40.

39:47And I'm like, it's only getting better. I've never looked better. I've never been happier. Right. It's crazy. I was with Martha Stewart at her house two days ago. I mean, how did that friendship come to me?

39:55Jennifer Fisher:She, she's coming from my book. We just became friends. Like we met at parties and like, she just, for some reason has sort of like taken me under her wing. Were you in her like Connecticut house? I was at her house. It's not Connecticut. It's New York, but it's upstate. Yes. I was there all day. She was driving me around in her Polaris. It was. She drives a Polaris. She drove the plurus. Oh yeah. She gave me a full, she's amazing. She talks to her peacocks. She's my girl. I am, I, she is the greatest woman. I love her so much. And she's just, she's been so supportive to me and I'm so appreciative.

40:23Jennifer Fisher:But to your point, we were talking and I was like, you know, she's like, look at me. I'm, I'm 30 years older than you, Jen. And like, look what I'm doing and look what you can do now that you're 55. 55 is young. 55 is like the new 30. I feel like 50 is the new 30 for sure. I never, 50, I had a little bit of like a midlife crisis. And I was like, you know, and I was like, I felt like I needed to look and dress and do a certain way. And then that kind of goes away. But I understand what that's like and what happens when even like men go through it. I get it now. But 55 is freeing as fuck. Like I am like, this is my era of, of I'm going to do what I want.

40:57Jennifer Fisher:I'm going to say what I want, which I always have, but like, I'm just getting started. Amazing. Yeah. Well, that's a perfect place to end. Thank you so much for coming on this podcast. You're such an inspiration. It's so nice to meet you. As somebody who's like hopefully getting into, you know, food and home and lifestyle stuff too, like watching the way that you've done it. I will help you in any way that I can. I will absolutely be here for you as your friend. Thank you for my beautiful jewelry. Thank you for having me. Of course, thank you. Thank you for having me. Thank you.

41:29And that, ladies and gentlemen, concludes this week's episode of Everything is the Best. I hope you enjoyed it. please rate, review, subscribe, all that stuff. Maybe leave a comment. Go ahead and follow me on Instagram at Pia Barancini. And I hope you have a fabulous, fabulous rest of your day. Love you. Ciao.

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