In short
Lauren Berlingeri, founder of HigherDOSE, discusses how her modeling-to-nutrition journey led to infrared/red-light wellness tech, and argues that women should “biohack” for nervous-system balance, hormones, and recovery rather than chasing male-dominated longevity trends. She also shares personal stories about postpartum hair loss, burnout, prediabetes from stress, and hormone disruption from extreme exercise and medical interventions.
Guest background
Lauren Berlingeri is originally from Canada, modeled for 15–16 years (moving to Italy at 16, then to New York). She later studied nutrition at IIN, worked in wellness startups (including Aloha), and helped build HigherDOSE over ~11 years. She’s a CEO and mother of twins; she also describes having a miscarriage and later an autism-related parenting journey.
Key claims
Infrared light therapy lowers cortisol, improves sleep, and helps recovery; women should trust their bodies and cycle-specific responses; stress can drive prediabetes even with “healthy” habits; wellness should be education + rituals, not fear-based health messaging.
Notable examples
“Hell Night” with Navy SEALs (24-hour torture) causing months of nervous-system/hormone disruption; using infrared sauna for calm and glowing skin; fundraising frustration over explaining infrared (“microwave?”); shifting from infrared yoga panels/studios to sauna blanket and consumables; red-light/neck products for postpartum lines and decolletage; Oura ring stress readings; caution about cold plunging and infrared sauna timing; breast implant illness concerns and lymphatic issues.
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Chapters
Tap a time to open that second in VOPersonal Product Journeys
0:15 to 1:38
Discussion about personal experiences with HigherDOSE products.
“It's so nice to meet you and have you here.”
Modeling Background
1:38 to 2:10
Lauren Berlingeri shares her journey from modeling to wellness.
“when you hit that moment in your life where you're like, all those things led me exactly to this point.”
Transition to Fitness and Hosting
2:10 to 4:49
Exploration of Lauren's transition into fitness and hosting opportunities.
“Well, I'm originally from Canada and I started modeling at the age of 16.”
Extreme Challenges and Their Impact
4:49 to 6:04
Lauren discusses her experience with Navy SEAL training and its effects.
“I did firefighter, you know, NASCAR driving, motocross, pro surfing, like wakeboarding.”
Nutrition and Recovery Journey
6:04 to 6:50
Discussion on the importance of nutrition and recovery for well-being.
“Yeah, you're just seeing constant fight or flight.”
Discovering Infrared Saunas
6:50 to 8:21
Lauren shares her first experience with infrared saunas and their benefits.
“the most influential people in wellness from doctors, naturopaths, fitness, pick their brain on like, what products we should be developing.”
Entrepreneurial Lessons
8:21 to 9:40
Insights from Lauren's experiences working in wellness startups.
“I slept through the night like for the first time ever And I was just like, how is everyone not doing this?”
Fundraising Experiences as a Woman
9:40 to 13:36
Exploration of the challenges and successes in fundraising as a female entrepreneur.
“I think that's a really big part of a lot of this is faking it till you make it.”
The Importance of Profitability Over Funding
13:36 to 14:00
Discussion on the significance of being profitable rather than overly funded.
“I'm grateful we never raised money, I have to say.”
The Crazy Amount of Startup Capital
14:00 to 15:30
Exploring the necessity and implications of raising large sums of money for startups.
“where it was like, so-and-so raised$100 million and blah, blah, blah, raised da, da, da, da.”
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From Infrared Yoga to Wellness Tech
15:30 to 16:58
Discussing the evolution of their business model from yoga studios to a wellness brand.
“if someone gave me the money I asked for six years ago and had me stuck to locations because that's what they know, you know?”
Celebrity Influence and Organic Marketing
16:58 to 18:24
How celebrity endorsements came naturally without paid promotions.
“Like, if you open up something that's cool and you make, borrow, and steal and figure it out and you're working in there every day, like, that shit happens.”
The Health Benefits of Infrared Therapy
18:24 to 19:26
Highlighting the advantages of infrared therapy beyond beauty.
“But when you like look in the mirror and there's lines on your body that were not there.”
Education on Biohacking and Wellness
19:26 to 21:09
The importance of educating consumers about wellness technologies.
“moms out there, which is also a big focus for us.”
Stress, Biohacking, and Mental Health
21:09 to 23:24
Discussing the impact of stress on health and the concept of biohacking for better living.
“And it's all these like men in the biohacking space.”
Navigating Hormonal Health and Body Image
23:24 to 26:15
A conversation about hormonal balance, body image issues, and wellness.
“It's like, it kind of all boils back down to stress.”
Breast Implant Illness Awareness
26:15 to 28:00
Discussing the experiences and awareness around breast implant illness.
“I was like, yeah, the back of my arms and my thighs.”
Navigating Breast Implant Illness
28:00 to 29:10
Listeners will learn about the symptoms and experiences related to breast implant illness.
“And when I would work out, one would go this way and the other one would go this way.”
Intuition and Body Awareness
29:10 to 30:50
Gain insights into the importance of intuitive health decisions for women.
“something that you have to be careful with, with breast implants.”
Parenting Perspectives and Fears
30:50 to 33:10
Explore the challenges and fears parents face, particularly around children's safety and health.
“Like that's my biggest thing because I've literally gone through all of it.”
Communication and Response Strategies
33:10 to 35:10
Learn how to effectively communicate and respond in challenging parenting situations.
“My mom is like the kind of person that like when you're driving in the car with her and you like slightly put your foot on the brake and she goes, and she like tries to stop you.”
Learning and Growth as Parents
35:10 to 36:50
Discover how personal growth and therapy can enhance parenting strategies.
“I like to pretend that everybody is accidentally being an asshole.”
Morning Routines and Self-Care
36:50 to 38:50
Understand the significance of morning routines and self-care in daily life.
“You don't want to send text messages like this.”
Conscious Consumption in Social Media
38:50 to 42:00
Learn about the impact of social media on mental health and how to curate content.
“And then I like figure out how I can get the best out of that experience.”
Finding Joy in Social Media
42:00 to 43:34
Explore perspectives on social media, creativity, and personal fulfillment.
“I, I, and every day I think to myself, wow, people are so funny.”
The Importance of Fun
43:34 to 45:28
Discuss the role of fun in life and how to cultivate it amidst responsibilities.
“Like, she was, like, kind of, like, workshopping something.”
Biohacking Basics and Product Insights
45:28 to 47:25
Delve into biohacking products and their benefits for health and wellness.
“And I was just like, here I am just talking to you about something I don't care about.”
User Experience with HigherDOSE Products
48:26 to 50:00
Hear about personal experiences and the importance of user-friendly design.
“It's so nice to get to know somebody from a company that I have so much personal interaction with.”
Transcript
Automatic transcript. May contain errors.0:00The following podcast is a Dear Media production.
0:15It's so nice to meet you and have you here. Oh, my God. I'm so excited to be here. I'm so excited because that's why we're just talking offline that I have besides one, clearly that I don't have. But I have every higher dose product. And the hat is on, like it sits on my bed frame. Yeah. So at night when I do all my stuff, I put the neck and do the face. And your husband thinks you're crazy. He's like, why are you? But you know what? Especially an Italian husband too. He's probably like. He's never used a product. He's like, what? But his, this speaks to your products because what he says all the time is, I've never been with a woman who takes so long to go to bed, but it takes so quick to get out the door.
0:55Oh, interesting. Because he's like, she's doing all the prep at home, like, or at night. Yeah. So he's like, she doesn't wear a lot of makeup. Like, sometimes she won't wear makeup. Yeah, you're high maintenance to be low maintenance. I'm really high maintenance to be low maintenance. Yeah, same. And especially the hat. I mean, you know, hair loss. And I took Neutraval and stuff, but, like, I was so afraid of losing my hair postpartum. Yeah, I did the same, like, right after my delivery of the twins. And I also had a miscarriage, and my hair was, like, falling out like crazy. And I used to never really use the hat before.
1:21But like since I've gone through these hormonal changes, like the hat's been like a game changer. And the best part about it is like literally you can just pop it on. You don't have to think about it. You know, it's not like you have to take a shower before or clean your hair or whatever. You just pop it on at any time. It's so seamless and so easy and it works. You have had a life and a journey that I am so excited to share because it's very interesting when you hit that moment in your life where you're like, all those things led me exactly to this point. And that is definitely like, you know, your career trajectory of starting as a model, getting into nutrition.
1:59So give us a little backstory, like where you're from, what you thought you wanted to do, because it's never ends up being what you end up doing. Yeah. Yeah. A little bit of background. Well, I'm originally from Canada and I started modeling at the age of 16. I went straight to Italy. It was my first airplane ride ever. Yeah. And modeled for probably 15, 16 years of my life. And that's what brought me to New York City. And, you know, as a model back then, you know, we were all doing the Diet Coke, cigarette, not eating diet in order to stay super thin. I was not a model, but I was also doing that.
2:36It was the era of like Twiggy and the 90s models and like anorexia. We're like young in New York and you're broke. It's like you get you eat like tiny bits of something and you drink your Diet Coke. Yeah, it was like cool then to do that. Yeah. So I did that, which was fine. And then I moved to New York with a modeling contract. But really, my passion was around fitness. Like I loved working out. I always remember like training the models. Were you an athlete in high school? Yeah, super athlete. Yeah. Difference also. Exactly. So I always would work out so much that it would affect my modeling career because I was always like too strong and too fit looking.
3:11But I went on this like interview for this show, Woman Versus Workout, as a model. And I was telling them about my life. And I lived in South Africa and I swam with sharks and I did the world's highest bungee jump. And when I drink tequila, I bite people. And they were like, you are the host, you know. So I started to host this YouTube series for Rodale, which was like, I guess that was like maybe 13, 14 years ago. I don't know the timing of it. But it started out with me doing like boxing and like just like normal, physically challenging things. And it was like this model versus the sport. But then over time, it started to build.
3:45And the next thing you know, I was doing like 24 hour hell night with Navy SEALs. Can we talk? What was that like? So it's funny because I would say that that experience has also shaped me to be a fucking hardcore CEO that has now experienced burnout because there was nothing that could have stopped me from completing it. I was actually one of the only women that ever completed this 24-hour hell night with the Navy SEALs. And what is it? So pretty much every Navy SEAL has to do 24 hours of torture in order to complete it because they don't want weak-minded people out in the middle of like war where you're like out to sea freezing and exhausted and you're like, I want to give up.
4:21It's actually kind of a part of my TikTok algorithm to see these. Like I watched one where they like fake put these dudes in like a helicopter and pretended that it was crashing. What? Yeah. I was like, how many millions of dollars are we spending on this fucking thing. It was a whole simulator of these two seals. Yeah. And there was like a dog involved and it was all these things. And I was like, I get it. I mean, if you're going to do some of the toughest things in the world, did you prepare yourself for this? Well, I wasn't prepared for it besides doing all the other like crazy things. I did firefighter, you know, NASCAR driving, motocross, pro surfing, like wakeboarding.
4:55I did everything. So I did that, but I don't think anything could really prepare you as a woman to go through hell night. I think it's really hard on a male body, but for a female body, I was fucked up for like six weeks after that. Yeah. I remember like going to go to bed afterwards and I was like shaking myself to bed. And from that moment on, like it was like really hard for me to come back from my nervous system. My hormones were out of whack. I started getting like cystic acne to the point where I couldn't sleep through the night. I was like ready to go. So I would have to like eat oatmeal just to put myself back to bed.
5:27I did that like every night for like three years. At any point where you like, Like maybe I have an imbalance. Because for me, I was doing that too for so long. And I was like, I just live like this. It's like nobody taught us to be what it's like to be like comfortable and to feel good and have our body function properly. Yeah. I mean, I think I was just so switched off from my body that I had no relationship to it. I had no connection to it. My like period was off and my skin was off. Sleep was off. And I just like push through survivor, right? Like I got to keep going because I don't want to go back to Canada where I'm from and start from the beginning.
6:04Yeah, you're just seeing constant fight or flight. Fight or flight. Yeah. Which now I'm like totally different from that experience, which we can talk about. So I went from that like crazy, intense style of workout to really like wanting to learn how to take care and recover my body. And I started to study nutrition at IIN and I was just like blown away by the fact that I could remember everything to do with nutrition. I just fucking loved it. It was like my thing. And it became somewhat of passion of mine. And then I started working at wellness startups, developing products and whatnot. And I was actually introduced to the infrared sauna from this amazing doctor, Dr.
6:42Lippman. I don't know if you knew him. He was a South African doctor in New York for the celebrities and whatnot. And he told me about the infrared sauna when I was interviewing him because my job was literally to interview the most influential people in wellness from doctors, naturopaths, fitness, pick their brain on like, what products we should be developing. and he told me about the infrared sauna, and I was like, infrared sauna? And, you know, modeling all around the world, I got to go to places like Germany and, you know, Scandinavia, where sauna— Where they're schvitzing. Yeah. I lived in Turkey for a year and a half, like, did all of that, and I couldn't find— That's not a lifestyle.
7:15They don't tell you, like, it's a cultural thing, but it's so funny when you're in those places. They're not saying, like, oh, this is doing this to your body, or, like, you're detoxing. Never. It's a part of the culture. It's just a part of their culture. It's almost like a social— And the weird thing is, is when you think about it, like in Rome or Turkey, it was like the men owning the sauna, which is such a weird thing when I think about it. Like, why wouldn't women who need to take care of themselves more than anybody be more into that culture of spa? Because why? We're feeling guilty. We've got to take care of the kids, whatever it is.
7:45But anyways, I went and tried the infrared sauna, which is very different than traditional saunas for your listeners. It's a light therapy, downs cortisol levels, relaxes the body, helps you sleep at night, whereas traditional heat heats the air. and it's more of a cardiovascular style workout. But anyways, I went and tried the only one that existed in New York City back then. It was like in the basement of a colonic center behind a curtain. You're like sitting there naked. It's such a dodgy experience. But I went and tried this infrared sauna and I just remember leaving there feeling like a totally different person.
8:17For the first time, I felt calm and connected. My skin was glowing. I really want to get one of my house. I slept through the night like for the first time ever And I was just like, how is everyone not doing this? And then from there, it was just like, I started putting decks together. I started doing the research. The more and more I looked into infrared, it was like, this is the product that I'm supposed to be developing at this startup. And here we are developing a fucking juice powder. Yeah. Like, what? Yeah. So we glazed over what you were doing for other. You like had worked for some amazing companies and brought significant growth to all of these companies, right?
8:51Well, just I worked at Aloha. I worked there doing product development for them. That was like my first taste of being an entrepreneur. I was very close to the CEO. I watched him raise money without a brand or a product. I watched him raise money without, yeah. I think I learned what exactly not to do through that experience. But what I did was... It's so important to like have other jobs. Built a brand around a product that works. Yeah, yeah. And not just go straight into being an entrepreneur. It was the best school that I could have ever went to because I never went to business school. I never went to, you know, college or anything like that.
9:25And, and, but I had real life experience of traveling the world and learning from different cultures of what works and that helps me develop products. And, you know, I learned from entrepreneurs and you just kind of fake it till you make it, which I did. I think that's a really big part of a lot of this is faking it till you make it. Totally. But then I also knew I needed someone with a business finance background, which is, I met my business partner. Yeah. And how did you, did you guys meet socially? and then you were kind of saying, oh. No, I pitched her. I brought my deck that I put together.
9:55That's how you met her. You knew you wanted to work with her. Yeah, actually a friend met her and knew that her background was, you know, investment banking. Yeah, investment banking. And she was at Tough Mudder before and he was pitching her on this like probiotic gum that he had an idea for, which is actually a good idea. And I like sort of crashed the meeting and I like came in, stole the show and, you know, sold her on Infrared and told her to go to the only infrared sauna at Gravity in the basement. And she tried it and was like, she's like a marathon runner, right? She was also working at the San Francisco Marathon.
10:29So she got the like runner's high and like was like, wow, this is a workout without working out and I don't even have to do anything. So totally got it. And then her and I started the business like the next day. And that was like 11 years ago. Wow.
10:51Can you tell us, because every founder experience is so different, but I'd love to talk about the hardest part, which is kind of like... Fundraising as a woman? Yeah, because I'm about to do it for Barron Cheney and like, it's hard for my... You know, we were just talking about this offline too. Because I don't... People always joke like, oh my God, it's so hard, but it's fucking awful or it's amazing. I mean, there's lots of different ways to go through it, but it's a real serious part of what it's like to be an entrepreneur. And I think a lot of us glaze over it a little bit. So I'd love to know exactly kind of how that works.
11:26Yeah. I mean, so my business partner and I raised$1.2 million six years ago, and that's the only bit of money that we've ever raised. And we put that towards our location business because before the pandemic, we had 11 locations within New York. And since then, we've never raised money, but we've also never been able to raise more money. So I have a love-hate relationship with fundraising. I think that I learned so much from it. You know what I mean? Like pitching and hearing people's feedback and knowing where we should focus and our weaknesses and whatnot. But I also felt like it was so frustrating because I was trying to sell people on infrared.
12:08And they were like, isn't that like a microwave? And I was like, you don't get it. this is like a waste of my time. And I find myself to be so like angry about it because if they don't get what you do, it's a waste of your time. And that took a long time for us to sort of figure out. That's a very hard part of this. Like, and this happens like when I'll, like I'll have a meeting for Branchini or I'll send David. I'll be like, David, you should go. And like, you just get back and you're like, I'm so misunderstood. This is so exhausting. That person thinks they know fucking everything. I know, I know.
12:39And it's the passion. Like you clearly you had that moment, that aha moment that everybody has, if you're lucky enough to, where you are called to do something and you're so sure about it, that to be dismissed of it, you just feel like you're fighting for your life. Yeah. I don't want to take those meetings anymore. If they don't get it and they're not coming to me at this point, they need to come to me, but unless you're starting out at the very beginning, I couldn't have that attitude six or seven years ago when we first started out. It's part of the process. But to be honest with you, most of that 1.2 was friends and family.
13:14Like they're the ones that believed in us most. And, you know, I laugh now because all those investors that wish they probably put in money five years ago are probably crying about it because now it's doing amazing. And we're now this business that is cash positive. We don't need investors. It's a great place to be. You know, I have control. We have control over the business. We could be so passionate. And it's such a better place to be. I'm grateful we never raised money, I have to say. Well, I always talk about this because you and I grew up in the era of all these females and these articles constantly plastered all over Instagram and all over the internet where it was like, so-and-so raised$100 million and blah, blah, blah, raised da, da, da, da.
14:05And I'm like, first of all, if you need that much money to start a fucking company, like, that sounds crazy to me. And like, what's the evaluation of said company? But it was, it was this, it was just this constant, like, screaming in our ears that everybody needs to raise all of this money. And what I've learned from the females in my life, and I'm so grateful to meet you now and hear this, is that, like, someone said something that was so funny to me. She just said, just, just be profitable. just test it out prove it out and move forward and if it doesn't work all this money and to get all this debt because as soon as you get that money they they shoot it and they want you to spend it too as well so you don't even get to trial things organically like 10 years later we're still trialing things it's such a great place to be and i love that because it really like make sure that you don't make the wrong move and spend all this capital on something that doesn't make sense.
15:01It makes you quickly have to pivot and learn and grow from it and go in a different direction. And we've done exactly that. Like first we started out with infrared yoga panels. Then we did infrared yoga studios, infrared sauna studios. Then we launched our sauna blanket. We then got purely into wellness tech. And now we're launching all these consumables that build out these amazing rituals that go with the wellness tech that amplify the benefits. And now we're building a lifestyle brand. And I'm like, fuck, man, like I could have never done that if someone gave me the money I asked for six years ago and had me stuck to locations because that's what they know, you know?
15:36You also didn't spend any money on marketing initially, right? Well, we joked that that sexy sauna selfie was - That was your marketing. We didn't market for the first like two or three years because it would be crazy. My business partner and Katie and I would work the front desk and then we'd like literally like have Leonardo DiCaprio like walk in and like, you know, Michelle Williams and we'd like stay open late for these like celebrities to come because they were always ahead of the trend of biohacking because it was their job to take care of themselves and look and feel a certain way. So they knew about the sauna and they were using it as a tool to do what they were doing.
16:14So we had celebrities. We would like, who else was it that was, what is her name? The supermodel that is Habibi? No, Gigi. No, no, no. The other one, Bella, Bella. Okay, I love Bella. She's amazing. I love you, Bella. she would come in with the weekend and then she would post that she's getting ready for Victoria Fashion Week in our sauna. And it was just like, we've never paid any celebrity to endorse any of our products. I don't think people should. Yeah. Because, and this also Malcolm Gladwell always talks about this, like being, creating what you want to do in the environment where the people are.
16:55Like, it's not like you were friends with a bunch of celebrities, right? This is why New York City is so great. Like, if you open up something that's cool and you make, borrow, and steal and figure it out and you're working in there every day, like, that shit happens. And I know that it sounds so crazy to people. Yeah, no, it does. But it's like celebrities come into Davide's store and it's like people want what's new and what's cool and what's interesting and what's working. And I think they like seeing, I don't think, I know that they like seeing a very, like, hardworking face forward founder.
17:24Yeah. I'm so passionate about an infrared sauna. My business partner and I always joke because I still try to sell her on the sauna. I don't even know I'm doing it. I was like, I was so stressed out the other day. And then I went into the infrared sauna and it all went away. And she's like, yeah, me too. You're like, it's almost like our company's working. Yeah. That's the best part about, I would say, our products is they really help you feel a difference in one session. The blanket speaks for itself. You don't need the science and all the research and all that because you try it and you feel it.
17:57Yeah. Well, that's why it's like if you get the blanket or whatever you start with, that's why once you start getting a product from you guys, it's like, oh, shit, well, that thing really fucking works. Yeah. Like, so it's like, OK, the lights on my face, but I definitely want, you know, the neck one came just in time because with my pregnancies, I'm a side sleeper. And so all of a sudden, my giant milky boobs were I would like wake up in the morning and stand up. And I was like, oh my God. And I'm not scared of aging, whatever. But when you like look in the mirror and there's lines on your body that were not there.
18:31And it's something my mom is always, and this is why we can't talk about our bodies in front of our children, but it was something my mom always talked about. She was like, I have these like lines here. And so I started using, you know, I just use that. And everyone always tells me you have a really nice decolletage. And I'm like, I swear to God, it's because I use that light all the time. And I'll flash it on my husband because I know how good it is for him. He's not going to lay there with the thing on. Yeah. I guess there's the beauty side of the red light, but most people don't know about also the fact that it balances circadian rhythm.
18:56If you have it on your thyroid for people that have thyroid issues, like there's so many other health benefits other than beauty. But I think beauty is a great, like vanity is a great way to like. Great way to sell something. And it's, you also don't want to scare people with like health things. But like, as we were saying, even before we started recording, like, you know, having a daughter with autism, like the amount of biohacking you're doing with her right now. Yes. And like it just the red light therapy for these kids is just unbelievable. Again, like a lot of these terms aren't known to a lot of people and moms out there, which is also a big focus for us.
19:32It's always been around education. Like when we launched the infrared sauna 10 years ago, no one knew what infrared was. That was our job to educate on the technology. It's a light therapy. Here's all the benefits. And we do that so well with all of our other tech because there's that heavy education piece and we want to do it in a way that's really digestible for, you know, for you and me and anyone that like most of the science and research just goes over our head and we don't really care. We just want to know that it works at the end of the day and that it's safe and I can use it for everyone.
20:02So I think that there's like that huge piece, but also I think like wellness is emerging beyond just, I would say like the way that we look and the way that we feel. And it's going into deeper things like balancing our nervous system, which is kind of bringing this conversation full circle from going from over-exercising, having twins, being a CEO. I experienced the biggest burnout of my life. I, as healthy as I am, I eat all the right things and I do the right things. And yet I did my blood work a year ago and found out I have two points into diabetes, pre-diabetes from stress. My hemoglobin A1C was so high.
20:40And this Oura ring too, like I would wake up and my stress levels were just in stress. Oh God. Till the moment I went to bed at the end. And it was just like, wow, like you can continue to biohack throughout the day with even the simplest things, right? When you eat, what you eat, what you drink, when you sleep, what you consume, All of that, which I think is like such an important thing that I feel like is so important in biohacking. And I feel like the word biohacking has this negative connotation around it because it's so male dominated. And it's all these like men in the biohacking space. Weird old dudes that don't even look good, that want to live forever.
21:21And it turns us off as women, but women are the original biohackers. We biohack for our children first and foremost. And now we are trying to empower that mom to take care of herself. Yeah. Just the way she would our child. Yeah. Right? It's like, you know what your daughter needs to eat in order for her mood and sleep and consume. I also know if I'm a unhappy, stressed out, miserable mother, that my family is unhappy and miserable. And same thing with my husband. Like we always say, like we're functioning well, our family's functioning well. But I even trained him on this because we like, it was so funny.
21:59We were having kind of like a heated conversation the other day. And I was like, do you understand? Like, I have had endless amounts of founders on my podcast. And every one of them hit a breaking point and had to make life changes in order to be mentally calm, to be happy. Because like, what the fuck is all of this for? This success and this brand building and the money and the bullshit. If you're like a miserable person. Yeah. Right. And like we're not majorly financially, you know, we're not people who are like, we want to be billionaires. Like, we're like, we just want to send our kids to school and live a nice life.
22:34Yeah. But it's the stress of the job. And so that's why I was telling him, I was like, you need some sort of like meditative thing. You need like a moment. And I got him eating breakfast. He lost 20 pounds going on a walk, doing some stretching in the morning and having protein first thing before he has his coffee in the morning. Yeah, and I think he needs to realize that he's not living in Italy, walking the beach, living like doing siestas. I'm like, we're not there. This is like America. Like, it is go, go, go. We work more than we relax and enjoy life. And our food is toxic and our water is toxic and our air.
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23:07And you have to biohack these days in order to be just okay, let alone thrive. I was pre-diabetic multiple times. like in my life, like in eighth grade. And then it happened again when I got older, especially after my like, and I was just like, oh man, like I'm not, I'm too stressed. It's stress. It's like, it kind of all boils back down to stress. At the end of the day, you can, I used to have issues with being orthorexic where you're like so healthy. And like, if I ordered something and it was a specific way and then the waitress didn't bring it the way I wanted, it would like trigger me. I'd like spiral.
23:44And that's why we all got to be like real chill about eating. I've gone that way too far too far. I can't eat a banana. I'd like way I'd never eat a banana. It's like eating a cake. And I'm like, where the fuck am I? Yeah. And then there's like, go back to the middle. It's like the extra level of, and this is like where I'm trying to play now is the quantum, which I am not the person to sit here and educate everybody on the quantum, but it's like this energy, the energy, the vibration means so much more than the actual object itself. If you are drinking dirty water and you are so happy and it's like not consuming you, it's better than being stressed as fuck, drinking the cleanest, structured, reverse, whatever you want.
24:26So there's also like that balance too as well that I think we all have to like figure out and then ultimately model it for our children. I mean, I picture us all like these little energy balls that like are like our energy fields are like interacting all day long. And if there's like positive vibrations happening, we're more attracted to that. And we go over there and it's like this very simple, sweet, nice. I mean, it's very real, you know, positive energy is very real. And I think also what you guys do, that's really nice that you're providing outside of providing like a product and service is you're providing a ritual.
25:03And I think sitting down at night and the ritual that I do, and now wait, I forgot the name of it. What's the new thing that I've been doing on my body. Oh, the body sculptor. Yeah, it's amazing. Yeah. But even like layering on the serum that I put on that like smells really good. And I put the magnesium spray on because I work out so much. The red lights going on and like driving the magnesium into your body, which you'd be doing before bed anyways, and working on your fashion, lymphatic, which is like something we never even think about with body work. I think about it all the time because I do, lymphatic has really changed my life.
25:35And my sweet fucking lymphatic girl got deported by fucking ice. Oh my God. Taken from a cafe on her computer, kidnapped and deported. And she was an angel, an angel. And who was very big. It's like, she was very intuitive. And so we would do, you know, I loved doing body work with her for a multitude of reasons, but she started working on me like right after I gave birth. And so I now I like I use that tool and I do kind of like what she would do on me. And it feels really good because I I can I have so much. That's estrogen dominance. I know. I was just saying this to somebody. I was like, yeah, the back of my arms and my thighs.
26:21I was like, I fucking text messaged my estrogen message to my doctor. And I said, the cellulite buildup on the back of my thighs is estrogen. It's not what you're eating. And I can tell by my period too. And women need to fucking know that. And I hit up the girls who own Parallel and I said, we need to make a supplement for estrogen dominance because I use all of their supplements and they're amazing. And their hormone balance is like helped with my PCOS significantly. But I was like, we need to come up because it's so - Well, because there's phytoestrogens in all of our like food and plastic and all of that.
26:52And then if you're already estrogen dominance genetically - I am already. And then you have a baby and then, and then, and then you go on birth control. Like did you go birth control too. Of course. I got fucked up for like six years. Obviously. It was like, took me six years to like, I had like, it was funny because my nickname's Laws and my family would call me Boz, which is beard of zits. When I was modeling, they're like cruel. I used to have to go to, when I lived in New York, Tribeca Dermatology was next to my office and they took insurance. So for a$20 copay, I would get all the cystic acne on my chin injected with cortisone.
27:29Did you also do Accutane? That's how bad it was. I didn't. I did spirit and lactone. But this is the thing. Okay. Which we love for killing our fucking hormones. This is what drives me fucking crazy. I know. It's like you start with one thing, you know. In our case, you go on hormones. I took birth control, got off the birth control, and then my boobs deflated to nothing, which I was a model and I made all my money off that. I was so insecure that I got breast implants. And then I got another pair of breast implants because they moved. And when I would work out, one would go this way and the other one would go this way.
28:05By the time I got to my second, my lymphatic system wasn't draining at all. Anytime I'd work out, I would get a swelling of my left breast. Then I started, my eyes started turning yellow. Then I just was pretty much inflamed. Like I had an extra 10 pounds of water weight on my body. It's so funny you can see it. I didn't know where it was coming from. And then I met this girl who was also a model, Amanda, love her. And she told me about breast implant illness. And I was like, what is that? And then you like go down this rabbit hole and there's just like thousands and thousands of women that are dealing with breast implant illness, which is not everybody.
28:42And I'm not like totally against them. I just want to say that. No, I love mine and they've been great. But my girlfriend had hers taken out and opened her eyes in the operating room and her eyes were white for the first time in like 10 years. That's exactly what happened to me. I was actually with Anastasia who's over there and I felt like I was meditating when I took a nap on like a cinder block with my chest open. I could feel the energy moving. But like I had lymphatic issues and I don't methylate well and blah, blah, blah. So for me, they didn't work. Plus I was doing infrared saunas all the time, which I think is also something that you have to be careful with, with breast implants.
29:15But also you have to be careful just in the sun, heating them all the time because it is little micro doses. Jesus fucking Christ. I'm in my hot yoga classes, all my mats getting, just pumping the plastic from these implants into my bloodstream. You'll know if you have any issues. No, I feel great. I would say like 50, 60, 70 % of women could do infrared sauna every day and never have an issue with it. But if you are having the symptoms, this is the point. Have a relationship with your body to know what is working and what's not working for you. And it's the same with biohacks too, right? Like just because everyone's doing cold plunging doesn't mean it's not good for us, right?
29:55Well, I learned that it's not good for me pretty much like three quarters of, or three weeks out of my cycle. And it's only good for me that one week. And even still, like my brain shuts off and I'm like, I'm a stressful, I'm a stressed out CEO. So like, why would I add more cortisol to that kind of, you know? So my point is, I think that women need to go back to our intuitive roots, have this, the first relationship you need to have is with your own self and your body to know what works and what doesn't. Because at the end of the day, you got to make those decisions, what to eat, you know, like what to put in your body, you know, like, are you going to do Botox?
30:39Are you not going to like, you got to pick your poisons at the end of the day. And you got to like know what works for you. I mean, you just got to own it and be fully educated on what potentially it is and what it could do to your body. Like that's my biggest thing because I've literally gone through all of it. And I feel like my experiences have led me to this message to myself and to trust my intuition. Which is so funny that we have to go through all these like horrible things to just get back to like what humans I've been following forever, which is like, yeah. Yeah. And if you love your breast implants and they make you feel amazing.
31:12My God, I love them. That's so good. It makes me feel so good. I'm going to get them redone. I'm going to get them bigger. I have to decide if I want another baby or not because I'm not going to get them. Yeah. I'm also going through the same thing. I also wanted to have another baby, but I also had them before I had my twins. So, oh, you did. And did you, did you not have any issues with breastfeeding or anything like that. Yeah. When I got like mastitis with breast implants and all of that, I felt like they're exploding in my body and they're going to make my kids sick. And I was really worried about that.
31:46And I think I freaked myself out more than maybe I needed to. I'm a underconcerned parent because I don't, I like, yeah, I won't. I mean, even my mom and I took my one-year-old to a pool last week and it was a little kiddie pool. So when he's sitting down, the water's up to his chin. And he's not afraid of the water. Like he's a little bruiser. He's having so much fun. And he would walk and then he would fall and he would fall on his butt and he was laughing. And then his head, and we noticed this when we were in Italy, if he went underwater a little bit, he would be fine and kind of like find his way back up.
32:18And I was like, cool. Like, yeah, lean into this. Like, good for you, dude. And I'm not going to give him fear because I'm scared because he's not scared. So good. But this mom was in the pool with us and she grabbed him and picked him up. Wait, whose mom? This other mom was in the little kiddie pool. And my mom's sitting over here and I'm like, do you think they were like not, I'm like, my 80-year-old mother or 75, sorry mom, 75-year-old mother who has eight grandchildren and raised five kids. But it sounds like that's where you got it from. Your mom doesn't operate in there. No, we're very aligned.
32:53We're super chill. And so this woman got freaked out and picked him up. And I was like, he's fine. Yeah. I was like, I'm not giving him fear. So don't give him the fear. That's like the wisest thing ever because I have a lot of fear and I realized that fear has driven me. You can't do it to the kids, man. Don't let them have that burning. I know. My mom is like the kind of person that like when you're driving in the car with her and you like slightly put your foot on the brake and she goes, and she like tries to stop you. And I'm like, I'm fucking driving. What are you doing? And it's just like, she can't help it.
33:22And it's all on her face. And she annoys the shit out of me. And then I do it to my kids. I know. Yeah. Also having a child with autism when I spent my whole pregnancy with her, like no plastic, everything's organic. And then it's like the thing happened that I was worried about. And like, I have a beautiful angel child. And you did everything perfect. And like, this was my destiny. It's a genetic mutation. It is nothing that I did. It's not like I was like smoking cigs, you know what I mean? It's like, it's something that happened. It's my beautiful journey with her. It sounds like she chose you as a mother.
33:56100%. And she's also, this morning, a fucking first day of preschool, I don't know why the teacher wasn't prepped on her being autistic. And the teacher said to her, hello, is anybody in there? When she was playing with a toy this morning, they were trying to talk to her. And I didn't freak out. And I was very calm. And I was like, have you not been prepped on her at this fancy private preschool? I will be calling. You know, I didn't overreact. I didn't call the principal in that moment. I'm going to sit with it. And tomorrow I'm going to have— And you were able to communicate yourself well in those moments?
34:27I said, she has autism. You clearly weren't prepped on it. Wow. Good for you. I said, her person is—her shadows will be here in five minutes. We came a little bit early to meet you guys. I'm sorry you weren't— Was she like, oh, I'm sorry. I'm sorry. Yeah, yeah. But I was like—but that's on her boss. Yeah. That's not her. You know what I mean? But either way, autism or not, you never speak to a child. I'm like, you shouldn't talk to a child like that in general. In general. But I just thought, like, how am I going to react to this? And I thought I'm going to react to this in an educational, loving way.
34:56Because the world is not ever going to be meant for her, right? And so we're not a victim of it. We're going to have to deal with this stuff a lot. So my response to this is what's going to feed her. And it's not an overreaction. It's not me being a bitch to this woman. She didn't mean it. You know what I mean? I like to pretend that everybody is accidentally being an asshole. That they're not. We can't live in a world where we just walk around with and everyone's a fucking dick. But were you brought up that way or is this something that you had to learn? I learned this. Did you? Yeah. Did you go through something?
35:30My mom's very positive. My mom is very like. Yeah. She doesn't talk bad about people when they walk away or anything like that. You know, we love to shit talk. Like she's very like she she doesn't have the strong personality that I do. So she gets like walked over and then three days later she'll be like, I should have said something at Target when you took my cart. That was me. I'm free. I freeze in those moments. It freezes. And then I can't communicate at all. And then I wish I said what I... No, and then more in the future. And then I think about it and I think about it afterwards and whatnot.
35:58No, but they're not thinking about it. Yeah. But you were always able to just like communicate your thoughts and confrontation. I was a pretty like crazy person in my 20s. But like I have therapy and like I want to be... I think having kids just helped me be like... I mean, you're obviously really great at communication. And that's like your gift of like bringing out the best in people. So... Hopefully. I mean, but I also like... this has nothing to do with higher dose, but I'll tell you something. The other day, God taught me a lesson because I never text anything that can be, I was like, I don't want to text anything mean about anybody.
36:29If I'm venting with a friend about something, we do that all day long. I don't want to be someone who's talking shit over texting. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But I said something the other day, a friend of mine like didn't want some, it was like something and I made a joke about it and I accidentally fucking text the person that we were talking about. And as I'm writing the text, I said to myself, this is not you. You don't want to send text messages like this. Shouldn't do it. And I fucking did it anyway. And then you sent it to her? And I noticed, thank God, I noticed that I sent it to her. And I unsent it.
37:06Oh, you did. I thought you would like maybe try to be like, let's laugh about this. No, it was, there was no way to laugh about this. I would have had to have said I was made a joke about you to somebody else. I there was no story that I was trying to come up with to justify this text message was so far fucking fetched. But I thought God gave me a lesson and this is my accountability. Yeah. And I and then I was like, fuck, like, I don't want to give this girl a bad day. She's not a bad person. Why the fuck am I talking shit? Yeah. And so. But are you the kind of person that's like always asking God for guidance.
37:44Like, guide me. I need to talk to my angels. I talk to my angels. I talk to my guardian angels and angels and call them in and do all that. Michael and all that. The angel work works a lot. Yeah, it does. But I've been bad about it lately. Like, I wake up. What do you do when you wake up in the morning? I mean, depends on the day, really. You grab your phone. I have no kids here. So, like, this morning I got to wake up and I did a hypnotherapy session while my friend Anastasia massaged my face. And like, I literally had the best morning ever, but like I have no kids and this like podcast was happening and I wanted to show up and be my best self.
38:20So I did that. But normally like first thing in the morning, I used to drink coffee. I'm trying to wait an hour and a half. I try to wake up and have my hormones settle first and cortisol levels before having coffee. So that's been like a focus and a mission. I'll drink hot water. Like that's my focus right now. I'm always trying to work on something. I'm like, oh, where? This is not working for me anymore. Let me try to work this. And then I try to like biohack it to get to the point of like what works for me. So like I'm not going to give up coffee. So it's like what kind of coffee? Is it half-calf?
38:51At what time do I need to eat before? And then I like figure out how I can get the best out of that experience. Yeah. Yeah. What are you when you wake up in the morning with the kids? Are you just like running downstairs to them right away? Or do you take a moment for yourself? My kids still sleep with us. Oh. That's so normal. You're going to wake up with the babies in the bed. I have to say, like, we travel a lot. How cozy. Yeah, we travel a lot. And when you're traveling a lot, your kids feel uncomfortable and strange beds and whatnot. But during the pandemic, we moved to Miami. Then we moved to Austin, Texas.
39:25Then we now live between Cape Town, South Africa and New York again. And we rent out our place. Yeah. So we're traveling a lot. And we put our kids to bed by themselves, but they always end up back in our room. I think that's the perfect combo. Yeah. So I do wake up and I don't run exactly down to my kids or whatever. But the reality is, as soon as you wake up, it's like they start demanding things. I serve on them. Yeah. Yeah. It's like, what do you want to eat? Like, I do everything for them, blah, blah, blah. Like, and then hopefully they're in some form of school or something so I can send them there.
39:58But how do you do summer? So this is the first year that we've done this like Cape Town split, but they go to an international school in Cape Town. And then I think the idea is when we're back here, I'm going to like either homeschool them or like tutor them. And or we'll be back from September to December. So like they'll go to a school here from that time. Like exactly split in half. So it like works out perfectly. But they're like six. And like for me, school, I didn't like school and I didn't go to college. And I really want to like nurture their creative, problem-solving thinking. And I'm just like really worried about school taking that away from them.
40:35Like, yeah, they need to learn to read for sure. They need to learn basic skills in school. But I want I hope that they are going to be more interested in this like more entrepreneurial style of learning. Yeah, of course. Which is amazing. What? But what were you going to ask? I was just wondering, like, I love a founder's morning routine. You know what I mean? Like, I love to know like what we're doing, especially someone who like has like a fucking health company. I'm like, what are you doing in the morning? that I'm not. Because this morning I woke up before my alarm went off. I worked out at seven.
41:07So my alarm went off at six. And I looked at TikTok. And then felt guilty about looking at TikTok. And something was making me laugh so hard. And I was like, I had both the dogs on me. But I was like, this is so joyful. Literally both my dogs were kissing me. My husband's dead asleep. He was in such like a beautiful REM sleep moment. And I was like happy for him that he was like being cozy and I was like laughing at something. And then I was like, I should be journaling. No, because I feel like the TikTok doesn't affect you. Like for me, I go on social media and I feel like shit afterwards because I follow all these health and wellness people.
41:43And then I compare myself to all of them and their followers and all that shit. Puppies and funny cat compilations. Yeah. My life is so serious on social media and it doesn't make, it doesn't fill me up. I think we all need to like make the algorithm work for us. Like my TikTok is fucking hilarious. I, I, and every day I think to myself, wow, people are so funny. Yeah. Like normal people all around us are like really creative and really funny. And they're just like now have a platform to like show how funny they are. It's amazing. It's healthy for you. It's, it's, it's healthy. I'm like, if I'm going to be on it, it needs to be good.
42:19And then And my algorithm on Instagram is like all interiors because that is like what brings me so much joy. And so like I make sure. But I am actively saying I don't want to see this. And I actively like things to make sure that I'm making it work for me. But I definitely was like this would have been a good opportunity to just like pull out the journal. It's in my side desk and like brain dump for a little bit. But you felt that's what you needed in that time. I feel guilty about it because that doesn't serve me either. It sounds like you understand also like this idea of like conscious consuming too as well, which I think most people don't realize.
42:53And I find like I didn't mean to go on Instagram. And then I like find myself on Instagram and I was like, how did I get here? Yeah, I'm like, wake up five minutes later. And I'm like, oh, fuck, I went like went to do something else on my phone. And now I'm on social media. And I'm like, whoa, I don't like that. But it sounds like you have a really good relationship with it. And you seem just like a fun, like, fun, fun fucking person. I drink more than I should, but that's the only thing I'm concerned about right now. It's funny because, like, whenever I do, like, healing sessions, my, like, thing is, like, I want to have more fun.
43:26Like, I literally tried to heal my way to fun. I said this to my girlfriend yesterday. She, like, a guy, she's not serious about, like, hung out. Like, she was, like, kind of, like, workshopping something. I go, you don't want to marry this guy. Have fun. I said, having fun is so much fun. and she was like exactly you're right and then this morning she was like I texted him and he wrote me like something so cute and then I had a good morning and I was like see fuck it have a good time what's your husband like? just the best person on planet earth being very stressed right now with work he's breaking my heart is he also fun?
43:59yeah but I've made him more fun he was really serious when we met yeah my husband's also very light hearted never stresses about anything like you're more like my husband and I'm probably a little bit more serious like her he's very like well everything's a big deal Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So intense. What star sign are you? Sorry, I'm going to. I was going to ask you before we started. It's okay, but some people will be like, that's such an embarrassing LA fucking podcast question to ask. I was like, what are you? I'm a Virgo. Oh, you are such a Virgo. I'm such a Virgo. Yeah, yeah. I'm a Scorpio.
44:29Oh, yeah. Are Scorpios fun? Because I know that they're like sensual and intense. My business partner is a Scorpio. Yeah. Is she fun? She is fun. Yeah, she is. She is fun. Yeah. she is the person that says we should just have fun and i'm like i don't know how to have fun am i having fun does this look like fun you know like that's a good balance i used to be fun yeah and then the kids and the ceo thing and i've lost fun but i am trying to get back there you'll get there yeah but i also don't like drinking anymore and it's like i used to use drinking to get to fun Yeah. So now I need to like find new ways to get to fun.
45:09I don't have that answer for your sister because I remember being pregnant at like our holiday party that we do. We just like big holiday party every year. And I was like, zero fun. I wasn't drunk. Very present. Having really annoying conversations with everybody. Because everyone was drunk and fucking smoking cigs. And I was just like, here I am just talking to you about something I don't care about.
45:37yeah well it is hard when you're not drinking to listen to a drunk person that's what i'm saying i was like everything's wasted and i was just like cool i could probably have more fun not drinking not around drunk people if i was like any doing anything else and there wasn't drunk people and i was like no but you know what like i love a good like we also travel to europe my husband's music so we go to ibiza and i have fun there i feel like you know and like that's my time to have fun. I have a harder time having fun day to day, being back in America, like working and like kids around and like I get super Virgo.
46:11And my kids are Virgos too, but also my husband's Virgo. We're all Virgos. Yeah. Okay. Intense household. Yeah. Very intense. But I feel like I need to be in the right place at the right time in order to just like enjoy like cocktails and like having a little fun and letting loose a little bit. Like on the beach. I like day drinking. I'm way more type B, but I would love more type A in my life for sure. Yeah. It's just we're just, it's a different operating system. Totally. What if somebody does not have a single product from you? Oh, this is a hard question. I know. I don't know. I don't know what the answer is either.
46:46Yeah. Because that new lymphatic thing is fire. Well, and it's like I would have never suggested the hat until I like started losing my hair because I, you know, had the hormonal issues. But maybe someone gets like the face mask and then you can just like put it other, you know what I mean? Okay. So if you're a beginner. into the world of biohacking and you have never tried an infrared sauna before you need to try what the infrared sauna blanket feels like yeah because no matter how you're feeling stressed pain tired cloudy mind it will game change you you will feel at least 30 percent under my bed 40 percent better guaranteed every single time and it puts me back in my body i have an overactive nervous system the sauna is my go-to for that how long did you do it for depends like if I'm doing the sauna blanket, I do it for about 50 minutes.
47:33If I go into the sauna, I do it at the hottest temperature and I only need like 20 to 30 minutes. But, you know, I also believe that everyone should be doing some form of red light therapy from the mitochondria perspective. And it is so easy and it really is something like with all the blue light exposure and all the stress that we have and the lack of natural sunlight that we get, you need to supplement with red light. Yeah, absolutely. Like guaranteed. If you're somebody that like goes on your phone at nighttime when it should be dark, like you need to use red light before you go to bed in any sort of capacity.
48:09So then I would say any form of red light. Like I have a full body red light in my sauna. We just launched our new full body red light mat. If you're someone that like forgets to do all of that before you go to bed, like have the red light face mask next to you before you go to bed because it's a great beauty sleep hack. Yeah, great. Okay. Well, thank you so much. Yeah, this has been so much fun. It's so nice to get to know somebody from a company that I have so much personal interaction with. And I just also want to say, like, even when I got the, what's it called? The microcurrent body sculptor.
48:40The body sculptor. We call it MBS. I was like, I, you know, I've done enough lymphatic that I was like, oh, I could just do this. But I went on your website and you had the most beautiful video that was so educational on how to use that on my body. and you know I was like what a great user experience this is the whole thing just felt very I felt like very like seen I was like oh this is so nice and this like perfect little tool is like and it's showing me exactly how to do it and how long to do it for and it's like all very user-friendly and like I feel like I'm doing a ritual for myself it's like very loving every time I use one of your products and it's like such a special feeling so thank you.
49:18That's so good because like let it that is literally what we are trying to do so for you to recognize it and appreciate it and love it and have it change your life is means everything. So it's a, it's been, all it's been like, it's a part of my routine, like for years now. Yeah. We literally just make products that we want to see exist ourselves as like two female founders. Most of our business is female. Not to say that all of our products are only for women, but we are making tools for her. So is there anything that's coming that we could tease or anything? That's really hard, but let's just say at this time, we're going to extend some products to more members in your household.
49:53Amazing. I have a lot of members in my household. All right. Thank you. Thank you.
50:04And that ladies and gentlemen concludes this week's episode of everything is the best. I hope you enjoyed it. Please rate, review, subscribe, all that stuff. Maybe leave a comment. Go ahead and follow me on Instagram at Pia Barancini. And I hope you have a fabulous, fabulous rest of your day. Love you. Ciao.
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In this episode, I sit down with Lauren Berlingeri, co-founder and co-CEO of HigherDOSE, to explore what it takes to bring wellness tech into everyday life.
From her early career as a model and TV host to becoming a holistic nutritionist and health coach, Lauren’s journey is a blend of grit, curiosity, and reinvention. Together, we dig into what inspired her to co-launch HigherDOSE (with Katie Kaps), how she discovered the power of infrared saunas and red-light therapy, and how she channels biohacking into tools people can use at home.
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