In short
A mother-daughter conversation (Dominique “Pia” and her mom) about family history, holiday memories, their home and garden, pets, school experiences, and how they navigate aging, public life, and major life decisions (including whether to have a third child). They also discuss moral judgment, online criticism, and personal finances/house responsibilities, alongside long sponsor segments.
Guests
Dominique “Pia” (host; news anchor/current YouTuber/author; manages a public online profile; mother of two) and her mother (frequent co-speaker; Danish family background; longtime homeowner; involved in moral/values discussions).
Key claims
Their bond is unusually close (“friends than mother-daughter”); elementary school should teach life skills and community morality; public online judgment is easy but unfair; their home chapter can evolve rather than automatically requiring a sale after dad’s passing; they’re leaning against a third child to avoid spreading attention too thin.
Notable examples
Parties in the house for 20 years; Danish Royal Copenhagen china and a Borzoi figurine; dog custody conflict over a rescue named Toto; a traumatic/mean elementary school experience involving a teacher (Mr. McClune); a Christmas dinner story where dad’s pants fell at the table; garden plans to switch to drought-tolerant landscaping.
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Chapters
Tap a time to open that second in VOOpening Banter and Party Reminiscing
0:17 to 2:30
Casual conversation about feelings and past parties, revealing family dynamics.
“Oh my God, why do you look like a fucking deer in the headlights, you weirdo.”
Family Collectibles and Memories
2:30 to 4:14
Discussion about family heirlooms and the significance of household items.
“No, but you were like, I remember you saying like how violated you felt that there would be like.”
Home and Gardening Woes
4:14 to 5:29
Conversation about living arrangements, gardening, and responsibilities.
“me that I've been staring at that Borzoi figurine my entire life.”
Dog Conversations
5:29 to 6:30
Discussion about the family's dogs and the dynamics of pet ownership.
“Well, you know what, the tangerine tree?”
Memories of Past Pets
6:30 to 7:29
Reflecting on favorite dog memories and experiences with family pets.
“I'd like to ask you, the first question I'd like to ask you is how do you feel morally that you have taken my dog from me.”
Mother-Daughter Bonding Stories
7:29 to 12:07
Sharing fond memories of growing up and the close relationship between mother and daughter.
“Like, can be blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.”
Fond Memories and Childhood
16:21 to 17:38
Exploration of childhood memories and experiences in school.
“You brought up something that makes me feel like shit.”
Reflections on Education
17:38 to 21:04
Discussion on the education system and its impact on children.
“This is the man who was the teacher in the early 90s at Chandler School in Pasadena.”
Holiday Memories
21:04 to 23:36
Sharing personal holiday memories and family gatherings.
“Of course, we all need to have foundation of learning and we need to learn how to study and learn how, you know, duh.”
Christmas Dinner Anecdote
23:36 to 28:00
A humorous story about a memorable Christmas dinner with guests.
“There was one Christmas dinner once where there were like a lot of friends.”
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A Memorable Family Dinner
28:00 to 30:38
Hear a funny story about a family dinner that turned into a comedic moment.
“the house and we're all laughing and enjoying ourselves and like bonding over these like fond memories in our home and i can see my dad from the end of the table is just fucking chuck is over it at this point.”
Teenage Years and Growing Up
30:38 to 33:05
The hosts discuss their teenage experiences and the influence of family rules.
“Did you do anything bad when you were a teenager ever?”
Life Changes and Moving Decisions
33:05 to 36:54
Exploring the idea of moving and the emotional connections to their current home.
“Do you want to move with us to New York?”
Family Resemblance and Memories
36:54 to 37:59
Discussing family traits and the reminder of loved ones through children.
“I'm just saying like, you know, letting that door be open for that as an option.”
Family Resemblance and Memories
38:20 to 40:19
Discussing family traits and the reminder of loved ones through children.
“I used to always make fun of the fact that like my entire ponytail was like the average amount of hair of like someone's bangs.”
Family Resemblance and Memories
40:30 to 41:46
Discussing family traits and the reminder of loved ones through children.
“As we gear up for the holidays, the most important thing to me is to seriously not get sick and to have my kids not get sick.”
Proud of Your Accomplishments
42:00 to 43:19
A heartfelt discussion about accomplishments and family pride.
“And I prefer to try to be not judgmental because for obvious reasons, it's judge not lest you be judged.”
Balancing Work and Family Life
43:20 to 45:03
Exploring the challenges of balancing busy work schedules with family.
“and I'm amazed at how much you accomplish.”
The Decision of Expanding the Family
45:04 to 46:54
A candid talk on the emotional and practical considerations of having more children.
“Like go through two years of being pregnant and having a newborn.”
Reflections on Past Relationships
46:55 to 48:32
Discussing past relationships and the importance of compatibility.
“You're funny because you always kind of like don't have that much of an opinion about certain things.”
Family Dynamics and Expectations
48:33 to 50:21
Insights into family expectations and personal experiences with a partner.
“And then I was like, okay, let's all go sit at the table.”
The Importance of Accessible Mental Health
50:22 to 51:26
Talk about the need for affordable mental health care and its impact.
“So I was like, so you could help him like fill the pothole.”
The Importance of Accessible Mental Health
51:27 to 52:38
Talk about the need for affordable mental health care and its impact.
“Telehealth has made mental health care more convenient and accessible for millions of people.”
Connecting Over Family Moments
54:35 to 56:09
An engaging call discussing family experiences and shared memories.
“Anyway, I think these like red flaggy things.”
Family Dynamics and Transitions
56:09 to 57:20
Explore the conversation about family support, dynamics, and emotional transitions.
“I wish more families could have that ability to, yeah.”
Napa Valley Trip Highlights
57:20 to 59:10
Reflect on the enjoyable moments and experiences during the Napa Valley trip.
“We are recreating around and organizing a little bit.”
Plans for Vow Renewal in Sicily
59:10 to 1:00:42
Discuss future plans for a vow renewal in Sicily and the importance of community.
“So that's two and a half years from now.”
Reflections on Relationships and Loss
1:00:42 to 1:03:29
Share insights about past relationships and the impact of family loss.
“How come you and dad never had a vow renewal for content?”
Transcript
Automatic transcript. May contain errors.0:00The following podcast is a Dear Media production.
0:17It's recording. We've told you what this is about. It doesn't need to be about anything. Oh my God, why do you look like a fucking deer in the headlights, you weirdo. Oh my God. I like to have a little forewarning. Why? Because you know that people are going to talk about this on the internet. I don't know. Anyhow, go ahead. Shoot. Nobody cares. Then why are we doing it? I mean, nobody who like, it's not that deep. You know what I mean? Depends on what we talk about. Your vagina. That's very deep. Very deep subject.
0:52We're going to talk about your sex life and your personal finances. Okay. zero and n-o-y-b n-o-y-b that's right what what's n-o-y oh I almost thought I made a mistake I said b-y-o-b she was nervous before this that people were going to be criticize her for drinking wine during this podcast or say they're just damn an alcoholic and then she's like that's b-y-o-b what did you think about our holiday party on Saturday or last Saturday it was amazing Absolutely. Don't you think it's funny that I'm still, that I've been having parties in this house for 20 years? 20 years? Oh, yeah, that's right. You were a little, you were born a baby.
1:38Oh, I'm 40. Think about it. I'm 39. More than, I, the first party I threw in this house was probably when I was like 15. Yeah. Long time ago. I had ragers here. Oh my God, you would have died. I told you, you can't have a party while I'm gone. But why would you leave me here? Everybody always left signs afterwards. I'd come home and my vegetable garden would be trashed like a bulldozer ran over it. That was because I'd find corks or I'd find beer bottle tops. What about the time you found the burn mark in the couch? That was crazy to think that people were smoking inside the house. There would be hundreds of people here.
2:16Little kids. Did dad care? I don't remember him getting mad about it. I don't remember him getting mad about it either. He didn't get mad about it? Oh, that's weird to me. If he got mad, he'd probably be mad he wasn't part of it. That's weird he never got mad about that. I remember you being like, I got mad. People in my house. My house. No, but you were like, I remember you saying like how violated you felt that there would be like. Because I had things. I have. You had so violated. Things from my family. From Denmark. Nobody wants your fucking. Not taking. Not taking them. Statues from Denmark.
2:49Breaking them. Breaking them. Your weird lobster. What is it? you have such weird it's Royal Copenhagen, China how did you guys end up getting any of that? because you always say how much you guys didn't have money so then how did you end up with the fancy Royal Copenhagen stuff? because at the time it was within people's budgets yeah no it's so expensive well I don't think it's in anybody's budget now that shit's ugly they only want the plates and stuff they don't want the weird what's that other statue you have of the dog? that was the borzoi Why do you have that? Nobody had a Borzoi. Apparently they did in Denmark because we brought that one with us from there.
3:29Remember me telling you that I've never chosen a dog in this family? Everybody else has chosen a dog. Yeah, of course. We talked about it last week that Davide would get you some weird, ugly dog. Yeah. Okay, mama, I'm going to get you a little tiny dog. You want a little tiny dog? Then who comes home? No, he knows. We saw that. I FaceTimed you. that guy in Santa Barbara had that like weird like borzoi something mix it was so odd looking and Dominique was like that's your mom's dog I remember that when it hit me one day why on earth have I even I've never really been or hadn't been around one until I met a friend who wanted me to babysit theirs but but I thought why do I have an attraction to that particular dog and then it hit me that I've been staring at that Borzoi figurine my entire life.
4:18What's that beeping on our alarm? What is that? What's happening? You hear that? Okay. Okay. How long have you lived in this house? No, no. It's the alarm system. Why is it beeping? What do you think? I don't know. Why would it be? It's warning you about? A door open. Starts with B. A battery. Is that the one that's attached to the ceiling above the heart stairway that we can't have to have that 20 foot ladder to get. Everything is so annoying. This house is, I want like a little rental. I know. What a blessing. And I sound ungrateful, but I mean, truly, I would love to just have a little house.
4:58That is not my responsibility financially. I just need to pay my rent. There's no part to maintaining a home, for goodness sake. I know there is. Especially a big lot and lots of garden and different things. Too much garden. The flowers alone are mind boggling. Well, this is why we don't need plants that need to be watered. We have to be drought tolerant. We don't need plants that need to be watered. We have to be drought tolerant. This would be all sand and desert plants. I'm fine with that. Make it sand. And desert plants. Yes, we don't need to waste water. You're going to change the garden here into a desert oasis.
5:25I put fucking gravel on half of this property. Yes. Yes. Yes. And the orange trees? There's only one. There are two. How long have you lived here? Well, you know what, the tangerine tree? No, that's three. are there two orange trees next to each other we have four citrus no we have a lime a lemon orange a lime orange a lemon and orange and then the other tangerine by the greenhouse that other tangerine is getting pulled out that's so sad it's getting pulled out it's one that's really still producing a lot of fruit and it has to go it's got to go it's a need to be good tangerines it's i don't know what to tell you i need to park a car there you know it's sad but i'm not not saying I don't agree with that.
6:08I'm saying maybe I can call one of those garden places. They want to come and take it out and take it with them and put it in one of those big square planters. They can. I just would rather even have somebody come and do that and take it and try to I'm down to give it a living home. Yeah. We have some questions to answer, but first I'd like to say, how do you feel morally? I have to ask you questions. Yes, they're coming in as we speak. Oh, I see. I'd like to ask you, the first question I'd like to ask you is how do you feel morally that you have taken my dog from me. Toto was my dog, my rescue.
6:40And you like it. You like when he stays with you. You call him into your room. You know he's a pure soul when he sees one. Okay. Thank you. You're welcome. I can't believe you came home with that dog. Mom, we're just going to run down and look at the dogs. Oh my good Lord. She's going to come home with that giant animal. Sure enough. Did you really think we were going to come home with that? Yes. I know you. But he's so nice. He's so nice. They were so sad down there. He was just going to go back to the shelter. I'm surprised he's so sweet as he is. It's a mystery how he ended up as a stray. But I wouldn't adopt a dog when they were like, because there's been so many dogs we've seen on the internet.
7:26And I was like, oh, this dog is cute. We should take it. But it would say, like, can be reactive to this. Like, can be blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. He had flying. He was like, there was no, it was flying colors, the girl who was with him. She was like, we've tested him with cats. We've tested him with dogs. He was sitting in the middle. She was sitting in the middle. She's from Italy, from the Pasadena Humane Society. Convinced you that he was great. I said, I know who you ought to be at. I think he's my soulmate and you have taken him from me. It's hysterical. You make him go up to your bedroom.
7:57Every night he leaves, it goes upstairs. He starts out on my bed. You come into my room, take him away. and then he comes back down the minute you already... Because you let him sleep on your bed. Oh, okay. All right, let's back that. He's not... He doesn't come on my bed. He sleeps on the bed. Look at next to my bed. We can see it right now. It's his bed. He doesn't come on my bed. Because Nutella's on your bed and Churro's on your bed. But I also don't want him... I have white sheets and the first time he came on, like it's black fur on my sheets. Technically a very soft color of gray. It's a gorgeous gray.
8:30I mean, I don't want dogs on my bed. You like him on your bed. The other night when I was in... You tell him he's your dog. Hold on. Nina's your dog. The other night when I was drunk and my underwear in there was just so... That was shocking. I was so vulnerable trying to get it. I was so vulnerable. And I was fighting. I was pulling him off of the bed and you were pulling him back on. No, he wants to be with me. But you kept pulling him back. You like being liked by the dog. Just admit it, though. Well, I do. Thank you. You just chose me. also do you think that maybe perhaps you're training him to be on your bed because you know soon that Nina's not going to be in your bed and you don't want to be alone in your room that could be a subliminal I think that's what's happening is what you're saying yeah it's so funny how he doesn't have to jump on the bed because his legs are so tall he just puts his front paws up and then moves one back leg up he just literally slithers onto the bed you don't even hear him get up there are you gonna miss Nina what's been your favorite dog of all the dogs we've ever had.
9:27Sydney, she was a sweetheart. She was a good dog and stayed in this yard from the time we got, I took her with her collar and walked around the perimeter of property to begin with and gave her a little tug back and said, nope, nope, nope. I showed her where the boundaries were and she stayed within them for nine, almost 10 years. We'd go on vacation. The neighbor kids would come feed her. She was losing the yard. 10 years is young for a dog today. No, no, not well. Yes, for, yeah, Goldens live to at least, I mean, listen, not all purebred dogs live to be that long. Let's ask ChatGBT. What is the average age of a Golden Retriever?
10:04Yep, no worries. So for a Golden Retriever, you're typically looking at an average lifespan of around 10 to 12 years. Told you. Of course, some live a bit longer with good hair and a bit of luck. A bit of luck. So sad. Okay, someone asked, what are your favorite memories of Pia? When you were a young mom. You had me at 37. So we think we should clear that. Oops.
10:30You were a young mom with Spencer. How old were you when you had Spencer? That's you were a fucking child bride. That's insane that you got married that young. Everybody did. I know. It was so common to get married at 21ish, you know, whatever. Fond memories. Well, we had a good time together. You and I did have a good time together. Yeah. Yeah. And I would say to you, we have to stop at the store. We have to stop at Bristol Farms. I don't want to go to the pharmacy. No, Bristol Farms. You thought it was Bristol Pharmacy. Yeah, because you would drag me to the pharmacy and it was boring. No, but it was just fun for me to have you.
11:05Yeah, we hung out. And I remember that one teacher said, you two are more like friends than mother-daughter. That was elementary school even. Because we've always hung out. Well, I went to St. George's. I had preschool, but it was only half day. and then I would run all your errands and shit with you. And then I'd go to dinner with you and dad. We'd go to, what was the sandwich place that was right? Mother's? Mother's Cupboard. I'd get a snickerdoodle. And people were always so impressed. Because you'd have the roast beef sandwich and cream cheese. You'd tell the same story. Well, does everybody know who's listening right now?
11:38Okay, never mind. They already heard it. They already heard it. I would have a roast beef sandwich with sprouts. And cream cheese. And cream cheese. But everybody else was eating peanut butter and jelly. And Margaret would get so many questions. How did you get her to eat that? And she would say, I just did. And she eats it. It's not that big of a deal. It's true. Throw everything at your kid. Some of it sticks.
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16:20I'm happy that those are your fond memories. You have no other fond memories? None. Have you? Yes. Oh, my God. Of course I do. Like what? Girl Scouts. That's so mean. Oh, yeah. No, honey, that's not mean. They didn't want to join Girl Scouts? It's a joke. It's a joke. Can't you take a joke? I know, but what are fond memories? I know. A fond memory? You brought up something that makes me feel like shit. Thank you. It doesn't make you feel like shit. Trolling me in my own podcast. it does I hated Girl Scouts I know but I understand that I hated that school I know so I didn't the thought of having to do anything with anybody in my class outside of all it makes me sick to my stomach to think about it's sad the thought about spending time with any human being in that classroom outside of class hours made me physically ill because I didn't want to see any of them so bad.
17:17No, it was a horrible school environment where everybody made fun of me all day long and the teachers called me stupid. But it wasn't just that one jerk. I have memories of every single teacher at that school. This is... He reached out to you after... What was his name? Don't, let's not say it. We don't need to say it. I would love to say it. What was his name? This is the man who was the teacher in the early 90s at Chandler School in Pasadena. I remember he had a wife. He didn't have a wife. Yes, he did. He had a wife with his mother. No, he had a wife and two kids. I remember they came one time to a holiday party we had here.
17:54And then he's and you make your famous eggnog every year. And I was in third grade and he said to the class, wow, your mom makes a really special eggnog, like making fun of you for having like alcoholic eggnog in our own home to my classroom. It was so weird. but then he messaged me when I was a freshman in college on Facebook but he used to degrade you religiously too and it was just so weird because it wasn't a religion called religious book no he reached out to you this is this is great divine justice I don't remember what he said but he reached out to me and I just wrote back and I was like and I guess like I don't know how old are people in third grade I have to like do the math on that seven so I guess I like was young But like, you know, I remember I'm trying to think of of what of how like I'm trying to put myself in my position now.
18:43What I would do if my if Carmela at. Yeah. Kindergarten five to six. Right. First grade is six to seven. Second grade, seven, eight. So I'm like 10. And I had Jared Leto was my big crush because my soul called life with Claire Danes was on MTV once a week at three o 'clock. so it was Oprah and I would watch those things after school and I would get like oh my god what was the name of that magazine there was like J14 there was like magazines that had like cute boys on them like Devin Sawa and the guys from Home Improvement JTT, Jonathan Taylor Thomas and I would like cut them out and be like these boys are cute and like put them in my binder and he would hold my binder up in front of the class and say what kind of person has like boys on their binder I don't think I really, truly don't believe you came home and told us all those things.
19:37And then I had Karopi. Remember, I didn't I loved San Sanrio. You take me to Sanrio at the mall. And I instead of Hello Kitty, I left Karopi the frog. And you would get me like a pencil case and like Karopi, like all the little school stuff. And he would I would organize it all nicely. And then he would say, like, look at Pia, for example. Like, she is like behind in her academics, but like has a pencil case and like has like a decorated binder. And like when you go to high school, like nobody cares what kind of pencil case you have. They care what kind of grades you have. What's his name? Mr.
20:14McClune. That's right. Yeah, because Mr. McCarty, who is very nice, lives across the street. I'll put fuck Mr. McClune on blast right now. He was a super Christian and was very judgmental. But not, didn't act in a Christian like me. No, he did not. A young girl in school. So he wrote to me when I was, but by the way, I had raging undiagnosed ADD and I remember staring at the boy, like they were teaching us division. The school was so fucking academic. And it's not for everyone. That's pretty, I'm sure. I just don't think that's what school, I think, I don't think school should be like that for anybody.
20:49I think school, especially elementary school, and Davide and I are, are obviously like majorly aligned on this. I don't think that we need to be, I think school should be, elementary school should be a place where you obviously teach academia. Of course, we all need to have foundation of learning and we need to learn how to study and learn how, you know, duh. But there should, it shouldn't be a race to be the most intelligent at that young of an age. kindergarten to eighth grade should be how to teach life skills, how to teach people how to be, you know, a part of their community, to do community service, to be moral human beings, right from wrong, which is why I love the school that we toured for Carmela, because there are quotes like all over the hallways about like being a good person and being good to thy neighbor and making sure if like you're only as happy as your neighbor, you know, like all these like beautiful community-based things that like built a happy, loving society.
21:47And then I think, between, you know, sixth, seventh, eighth grade, if you see that a child is excelling in something, you can start to harness it at an appropriate age. And then you can choose where to send them for high school. That'll accelerate that. But like making a kindergartner, first, second, third grader and all these schools now, by the way, are like rolling back all these things because they've realized that like kids don't really learn what they don't really can't. Their brains can't develop in that way. Enriching a loving basis. Such fucking bullshit. And then I also don't want my kids around kids that have go to schools where I wouldn't spend that much money on a school anyway.
22:28I wouldn't. It's corrupt. But on top of that, then I don't want my kids around. Not that those are bad kids, but I think it's good for any child to be around people who are not spending that much money on elementary school. So let's get into these questions. Do you have a favorite holiday memory? I don't know. I've always just always enjoyed the holiday One pops out above the others. I'm not sure. I mean, I certainly love it. When you brought Davide here and we had our first Christmas here with him. I don't even remember that first Christmas. Just to have you find the love of your life like that was amazing.
23:09Yeah, but there's been so many. I feel like when I was little, it was really fun. Yes, it was. What was, I think Christmas mornings when the boys were still here for me, from my perspective, was fun because then I had to have Christmas mornings by myself because they were all like older and moved out and had their own lives. But when we all had Christmas morning and dad opened his gifts and Spencer and Peter. And then I like all the different iterations of Christmas dinners because everyone's been in. There was one Christmas dinner once where there were like a lot of friends. Like there were some of one of Peter's friends.
23:42Oh, when he was in the Naval Academy, probably. He had a friend here who was so funny one year. I can't remember. Like, there's been such a cast of characters through the years here that were so fun. That one, Chris, oh my God, we have to tell the story about dad's pants falling. I literally was going to bring that up. And then I thought, I'm not going to. That was honestly, honestly, that was the first thought that came into my mind. And I thought, well, I won't go there. And we can get, the person who was related to these people has passed away. So he's not going to get back to him. Rest in peace.
24:20But somebody in our family was dating a man who brought his family to our house for Christmas. They were very conservative. And it was very interesting to have, now that I'm thinking about it, because he brought his brother and the brother's wife and daughter. Or was it the sister? Or was it his sister? Maybe his sister and husband and daughter. The sister's husband's daughter. And like his. She was seven. And his dad. Yeah. So the parents and the sister. It was him, his sister, sister's husband, their seven-year-old daughter and like his dad. His mom and dad. Oh, both the parents were here? Because that was the point.
24:57Oh. Dad was sitting at the head of the table. Our dad. Yeah. So, by the way, this is when I was probably 16. I was probably 17. This is when Spencer, my mom's full son, my mom's son, because I have half siblings, he and I would smoke pot in the greenhouse before dinner. And so we were giggle city, like giggle fucking city. And we especially like these people were very uptight and they like weren't really fun. And it like as soon as we all like finish the appetizers, like we were all kind of looking at each other like, oh, fucking boy, this is going to be like dinner early because this seven year old had to get home to bed.
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25:39So the seven year old went to like a really strict school where there's like she'd never seen television before. There's a TV in every fucking room in this house. Like there was no the person who brought this family here, the family member didn't. I would have gone into extreme detail about the intensity of these people. First of all, I would never would have brought them to this family for this dinner. I would have been like, this is not wine and laughter. Yeah, this is just not the place for these people. This is not going to mesh well. So we were like, oh, God, it was like pulling teeth trying to like talk to them.
26:08They were like really uptight. They were they kept being like, well, we don't eat that. And our daughter doesn't. And we were like, oh, are you comfortable here? Like, yeah, we had a movie playing and we had to turn that. They were pushing us to have dinner right away. Yeah, because she had to be in bed at a certain. She had to go to be in bed at a certain time. It's Christmas fucking ridiculous. So we also had a TV at that point, a little TV like in the kitchen. and so spencer and i are like oh dude we need to fucking get stoned before dinner because this is gonna be like a long dinner so we go and like have a little puff and now we're like giggle city so we walk before dinner we're dying because we walk into the kitchen and that someone had turned the tv back on and this seven-year-old is an inch away from the screen and we walk in and we see her And we're like, blah, like we're dying.
26:59We're like, oh, my God. So then we're all at the table. And this was like there was a lot of family members here at this point. And so I think my brothers and my sister, like somehow, ironically, again, the the stories of us growing up in this house and the parties we had and the fun thing, you know, because think about it. There's I'm born between my parents, but my dad had three kids and my mom had one when they moved in here. So there's been four kids before me who were all around the same age, all had some similar friends, but all separate friends. And so like the there's been chapters and shifts of like everybody's experience in this house with like their friends and their thing.
27:37So much life and like so many parties and so many things. And so we're kind of like recapping this and we were talking about the parties and the dad looked at all of us and was like, don't you think this is an inappropriate conversation for the dinner table around because of their daughter? talking about but we weren't like we were doing like we were like oh we have we at this party and like the one time that it was all like by the way this is our fucking house you were a guest in the house and we're all laughing and enjoying ourselves and like bonding over these like fond memories in our home and i can see my dad from the end of the table is just fucking chuck is over it at this point.
28:18For context, my dad, when I was in ninth grade, had knee surgery and got staph infection from that surgery. And that was like the beginning of the end for my dad. And he was like spent the last 20 years of his life or 15 years in extreme pain and had chasing staph around his body from joint to joint. Endless joint replacement surgeries. So he, you know, picking himself up from the dining room chair. I mean, he would lift himself up, but it definitely is. Everything was a little slow. So at this point, because he's so he, you know, my dad had a big belly. He was like a cozy bear. So he's like he's like looking around.
28:57He's giving me this look like I'm fucking done. And I was like, dad. And he was like, I'm over it. So the people make it another comment. Chuck's like, fuck. And I remember him saying, God damn it. I'm like, fuck this or something. No, he said something and stood up. to go like remove himself from he's like I'm gonna go smoke a cigarette you know it's like something but he had undone his pants when he sat down because he had a big fat fucking belly and when he stood up his pants were around like fell to his ankles thank god he had underwear on he's at the head of the table and the wife the mother of this guy who is sitting right next to him.
29:44So she stands up. She looks over at him and she's like level with his underwear. Oh, my God. Well, we were dying laughing. The whole table erupts in laughter. And it was like the perfect thing to break the fucking ice. That was probably the last straw for that little poor seven-year-old. Probably was traumatized for life. Traumatized. It was so fucking funny. And it was like the perfect thing. And then like, it gave it like from then on, like I think that though, that family then like scurried off and like got ready and then they left and then we were just left to laugh and have the rest of our evening back.
30:26But that was a very, we tell that story a lot because my big dad standing up at the head of the table on his pants falling down was just like the most perfect. It was like a fucking movie. Oh my God, your favorite teen memory. like bad girl. You were such a goody two-shoes. Did you do anything bad when you were a teenager ever? Good Lord, no. You had one puff of a cigarette, wasn't it? Yes, and I hated it. Why were you such a goody two-shoes? Well, my dad was strict. I was technically not supposed to date until I was 18. Why? Denmark, where things are so much looser and it would have been a different story.
31:05But yeah, I just, no, I just was a good, I followed the rules and I really didn't do anything crazy at all. Why? Boring. Well, I mean, in general. Like a Toto setting and finally eating a bone like a little boy Toto. This thing right here in front of me. Totito. Look at his shoulder blade. It looks dislocated. It cracks me up his shoulder blade. Right now, he looks like a Great Dane. I wonder if he's part Great Dane. You know, I tried to give him that test we have that says what his DNA is. I took that one out. Did you ever give it to him? No, he... The swab? Yeah. He wouldn't hold still for me to.
31:41I just had to throw it away. Those tests are expensive. Someone gave us those for like a dog party we had once. That was the last one too, huh? No, no, I have another one. Oh, we got to do it. Now that he's more comfortable with us. I did it like the day he got here. So he was too sensitive. Your sister wasn't a goody two shoes. She was a bad girl. No, I wouldn't say so. When she got older then? No, I really think that we were, there was nobody in my class in high school that was. Yeah, that was bad. It was a. It was a lot of like doobie doobop, doobop, doobop. And like, and then wearing a Letterman jacket was like you being steady with your boyfriend.
32:14Yeah, it's just, and then the whole hippie thing came out and, you know, people going braless and all that kind of stuff and like love not war and all that kind of stuff. No, no, it was conservative. In fact, when I went on that trip to Denmark when I was 18 with my mom, I wore a houndstooth sleeveless scoop neck dress with a matching coat. I looked like, it's what Jackie Kennedy look, you know what I mean? that very that kind of love i came home in a mini dress and and and clogs with the danish clogs i came home they were saying don't you want to get a short dress don't you want to get don't you i knew i was going to get a pair of clogs when i was there to that's good high school wood shoes so but yeah i came home with a different attitude pretty funny yeah boring kind of just kind of was a good girl.
33:04Yeah. Do you want to move with us to New York? I think that would be fun. As I mentioned to you, if you, I can imagine that you would keep something here, a condo or something and whatever apartment, something so that you have a place because won't you need to be, won't Davide need to come here and still do stuff for the store? Yeah, but he's going to be like everywhere. You know, I feel like what I think you should do is get a condo by the beach by Spencer and live with us most of the time, but then live there. What sucks about New York is January, February, March. I don't mind cold and snow.
33:45April. February, March, April. It's like the holidays are gone. It's freezing. It's dark all the time. But spring is like the most magical experience you've ever had, as is fall and like November, December. is so beautiful. So you're not talking about living in New York anyway. You're talking about living up higher. Yeah. Yeah. But also, by the way, like living close to the city, it's like, I don't feel like there are like that many activities to do here where I feel like when I'm in New York, I do so much. So I feel like we would be more obviously because I feel like it would be like, oh, it's a cold, weird day.
34:20Like, let's go to the Met. Like, let's go to J.G. Mellon. Let's go to this cute thing. Like, let's go take the kids to do the whole world. There's just like so much more like, let's go to Bedford and have a day there. Let's drive further upstate and go to this farm. Like, I just think there's like a lot more like cozy activities to do. And I agree. And we'd be traveling more. If a miracle happens, we could keep this house. Part of me feels like closing a chapter, like Heidi and Michelle moved. Yeah. Of course, she wants to move. She does. Yeah. They want to move like to like, you know, obviously late, like in a few years, but she'd love to move somewhere that's not.
34:56California's insane. Yeah. She wants to like live in like North Carolina or something. Like somewhere where she can, her like horse can run around and like. Right. Cost of living is a fraction of the price. I know. It's safer. There's more like cute towns to live in. No. And then. I love that. Jeff is obviously open about. And Jeff is considering moving too. Yeah. So I do feel. I'm not opposed to moving at all. I just think there's something very charming and cozy about the East Coast. I know. I feel like if you join like a country club, which I wouldn't do here, but like you're on the water. I mean, it's so pretty.
35:32I loved our trip. That was beautiful. I know. I loved our trip. It was like a perfect weekend. I was like, God, life is like, I'd love to be able, you know, we obviously have been trying to like take you on more trips. I just, I keep hearing all the things you like, you know, when you say like, oh, this person went there or like, I've always wanted to do this thing. And you know what I was talking about with Dobby Day is like, you know, the kids have like winter break or like we do Christmas at our house and then go to Italy the day after Christmas and we're there through New Year's. And like Christmas anywhere in Europe is heaven on earth.
36:05Everything's so Christmassy. It's so cute. There's Christmas markets. It's like. And then, you know, if we want to go like skiing, you know, inexpensive it is to go skiing and skiing in Italy. we're here in America. It's like, so like the lift tickets and the food and the things. It's a whole different world. Yeah. I mean, the prices are just like, you kind of just get such a more bang for your buck. And so I'm like, well, you know, we can live that kind of life where it's like more expanded in that way, which I just think would be nice for everybody. You know, I think we're always going to figure out like what Christmas looks like and maybe we host one year or we all go somewhere, you know, whatever it is.
36:41But I think the transition of dad passing away and like keeping this house and like turning it into this beautiful thing and having us all be here. And I'm not saying this needs to happen tomorrow. I'm just saying like, you know, letting that door be open for that as an option. I think having it, if the chapter does close, doing it this way instead of, oh, we have to sell the house since dad died. Oh, no, it's so lucky. Well, it's so fortunate that it worked out the way it did, honestly. So fortunate. Where you were at a point where this could all work out at the time of the past. But I think it's like energetically been such a good thing.
37:19It has. You know, the intention of selling the house financially, the things that we've done to it, you know, increase it. Like it just, I just feel like, I don't know. We've just taken it a day at a time. We haven't, didn't foresee exactly how this was going to turn out. but we thought, let's give it a, give it a try. And, and it's evolved into what it is. And it's, it's. Oh, I hear Carlo. How much does Carlo remind you of your husband? So much. It's shocking. His little body and his little hands, big chubby hands and his feet. And he's getting in his eyebrow. I mean, he, those, you just cut, cut and copy.
37:57No, cut and paste. Cut and paste rather. Chuck's eyes and eyeballs and eyebrows. And you and on Carlo. And he's, got that cute personality and he's so sweet.
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42:10what does your mom make of your public online profile you manage very different generation what do you think about my public online profile i'm actually very proud of of you and and i read comments that people make and how they appreciate your what you do your sensibilities and your caring of other people and your volunteer work with the children at the hospital. You've got a really good moral compass. And I think that comes through. It's easy for people to judge. And I prefer to try to be not judgmental because for obvious reasons, it's judge not lest you be judged. I am not in a position to judge anyone.
42:57We're all one together. We're all souls together. and these bodies on this planet. So trying to get along and live our lives. But I'm proud of what you do, Pia. I'm proud of what you've accomplished. And you and Davide together have complemented each other in your work and your personal lives. You made two darling babies. Yeah, I made you two darling babies. No, I'm proud of you, honey. You work hard. You work really hard. And you do. You have so many irons in the fire. and I'm amazed at how much you accomplish. Today's a crazy day. Today I have a headache because there's so many things happening and I couldn't, my body, this is a, I never get headaches and today I was like, ooh, there's a lot of like moving parts.
43:40I'm nervous for how busy I'm going to get when Baranchini launches, but I feel it'll be the first time that I can probably, not probably, like it'll be the first time I can afford to have like people who work for us, you know, because we're going to like properly actually take some of the load off. Raise money. Yeah, and just like set things up in a structured way. So what I really want like is to, and we do it with LPA. We, you know, have our meetings in person twice a month, but like, I'm really looking forward to having people that I work with in, like I really miss sitting down with people like in a space and having like creative meetings.
44:17Everything's like, I'm happy that everyone can work from home and have more flexible schedules, but I miss like in-person creativity. Yeah. so I hope that that happens with I think there's going to be like a whole new I mean things are about to get really crazy between that and what's happening with Davide's brand so we're about to have like a whole new which is why you would like we're always talking about like is there a third child does it make sense of what we're doing and then the other day I was telling Davide about it I was like I don't know I just think it's like irresponsible you know I said everything that we talk about where I'm like I feel like I'm in such a good place and I don't want to and then I was like, like closing that chapter feels so nice to just be able to like move forward and not have this, I feel like I have this thing looming that I've like start over again, you know?
45:03And, but, but it's like, what start over what? Like go through two years of being pregnant and having a newborn. That's like two years for the rest of my life. And for generations, like who cares if it's, that's it. But then I'm like, oh, it just feels nice. And I don't want to add, you know, I want our kids to get ample attention and I don't want to, you know, drag ourselves, spread ourselves too thin. But then I looked at him and I told him all that. I was convincing him that we should not. And then I go, so then that's it. So then there's no more babies. And then we all started crying. I'm with you.
45:39It's a tough decision. It's very weird because I rationalize that we shouldn't. As much as you travel, though, and are going to travel even more, having just two children, when you take them with, you each have a kid. A third one on an airplane. I mean, you also want to enjoy the rest of your life and you want to enjoy the traveling. Yeah, but like having an uncomfortable flight for the few times we do until they're old enough to like, is like, that's not enough to like not create a whole other human being. So I have a fucking fly. I would have had a third one, but travel, you know. But, you know, I want to travel comfortably.
46:16Right?
46:20I mean, it's like. No, that's not. It's a human being. Can you imagine looking someone like Carlo in the face and be like, we didn't have you because we want to travel better? No. You know what I mean? Yeah. A person. But life is like a box of chocolates. I know. I don't know what the third one is going to be like. We have two very happy. We have two sweet happy babies. They're so happy. We have two such happy, joyful children. I know. But then one more. What if the other one, what if the third one is also happy? And then we got three of them. Imagine seeing three of them all lined up, hanging out with each other.
46:55And think about it. Like, Carla has so much love to give. Imagine Carla was a big brother. Can you imagine? Carla was a big brother. I can. Heaven. Picking up the baby. Ma! Ma! To the baby. Ma! So fucking cute. I don't know. You're funny because you always kind of like don't have that much of an opinion about certain things. Or as much as you do have an opinion. I'm not expressing my opinion very much on this one. Is that what you did? Yeah. But also you did that when I dated that fucking loser before Davide. Like I'd be like, do you like it or not? And you'd be like, we just think that. I said, I knew better than to.
47:39He didn't like us. That was clear. What a fucking piece of fucking shit. And so. Can you believe that I fucking dated that person? What was going on with me internally? And then you said to me one day, you don't like him, do you? And I said, I like him fine. I have nothing against him personally. However, do I picture him as the father of my grandchildren? Hell no. That's the one negative thing I said to you about him. And I thought, I don't need to say any more than that. And then you finally saw things on your own. Do you remember that one time he and I moved into that last house that we were, and I stayed with him for that extra year because I loved that house.
48:18And we made you dinner. Dad couldn't come over for some reason. Dad was at that point kind of like too hard to move around. He wanted to stay home or something. I just pictured myself in that kitchen all of a sudden. Dad was at a town. There was something. And remember, he wanted to eat in bed. Yes. We cooked dinner. And then I was like, okay, let's all go sit at the table. And he was like, I want to eat in bed and watch my show. Yes. But it was very weird because it's not like he was so polite with his parents. He would never do that to his fucking parents who we spent so much time with. But it was like this weird regression happened that he was like, I don't have to do what you want me to do.
48:56It was the oddest. Whatever happened. Did he go to bed? We got into a huge fight. And I was like, I was like, my mother drove 25 minutes. We made dinner. We're sitting down and eating dinner together. like there's no world where that would happen. He had such a wonderful family. There's like no world. He would never, his parents would not tolerate such a thing. It was so confusing because I loved his parents. His parents are magnificent. And so I was like, this would never happen for once. Your dad would hit you across the face if you were doing this for your parents. I don't know. It was so, it was like this act of defiance that we couldn't tell him what to do.
49:31It was so weird. And then I remember one time there was like, whatever, we have asphalt in our driveway. and there would always be this like little part of the asphalt that would get broken up by the car tires and it would create like a little pothole in our driveway. And my dad would just like go to Home Depot and like buy a little bag of asphalt and you would pour it in the hole and it would have to be like tamp it down. You just tamp it down. It's like a two second man job. Sunday dinners obviously were like a thing that we like really kept in high regard in this house. So I was coming from a Sunday dinner or I was coming over here for Sunday dinner and he was like doing something.
50:08I don't want to name it because I don't want to make it obvious. But there was he would always do this like relaxing thing on Sundays. And I was like, OK, I'll meet at my parents' house. And I was like, my dad is asking. And I think it was kind of also my dad's way of like bonding with him. Sure. He was like, he's asking if you can come early to like help him do that. Because my dad was like disabled. So I was like, so you could help him like fill the pothole. And then he didn't. He came like so like we were almost done with dinner by the time he came because he wanted his his Sundays to be for himself.
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54:44Anyway, I think these like red flaggy things. Oh my God, Davide's calling me right now on FaceTime. Let's answer it. Davide, you're live on the podcast. You're being recorded. Si, si, si. Do you want to ask her a question on the podcast? Something I can answer? I guess I would like to hear from her. Like just a little inside of how it feels day by day. being in that house with, you know, new life and seeing, it's like, you know, watching that happen again, in a sense, you know, first was with you. And then that's what I would ask her, like, like to articulate that and just giving us, you know, without going too deep, by giving us how she feels about it.
55:29It must be insane to witness something so, so meaningful. I love it, Davide. How could I not to be in my same home I've been in for since 82? My goodness, all the memories. It's a mix of emotions, isn't it? Because I look around and I see everything that Chuck and I had here and did here and all those memories. And then it rolls right into my memories and daily life with all of you and the babies. And I'm just walking up into this room now. You know, it's just, it's always, it's a continuation of my life from that time until now. And it's, I mean, it's ideal. It's ideal. I wish more families could have that ability to, yeah.
56:15But I also credit you with a lot of that too, Davide, because I think you with coming from Sicily and your respect for family and not a lot of men would do this. Yeah, I think. No, but besides that, I didn't mean to. But I think that, of course, all the components were in place for us to transition into that. Yeah, but no, you were the component. Because most men wouldn't have done that. All right, I'm going to check out on that. I don't want to. What were you calling to tell me? Sent it to me. I love you. I'm just happy. Stuff looks great. Let me tell you something I think is important for everybody to hear.
56:51you had this dark cloud over your head that coming home was going to be exhausting because you were landing and then you had the party and then you had to do the thing and you've done it all and you've done it all really well and it all looks really great and so you made you gave yourself a lot of anxiety and you were future tripping over something that you handled really beautifully and it's been a really great three days instead of this three days that you thought were going to be so awful i told you where i'm picking up it turned into a great call you were so complimentary and love it. That's why you called?
57:22No, I wanted to just check in with you. Oh, okay. When are you coming home? Soon. Soon as we close. We are done. We are recreating around and organizing a little bit. Okay. I love you. Someone asked what kind of wine we're drinking and we are drinking The Mascot from Napa, California. How was your trip to Napa with us? It was highs and... There were no lows. You mean emotional lows. Yeah, yeah. But there were no emotional lows. It was just emotional. Yeah. That's right. I started to say highs and lows, but it wasn't lows. It was, yeah. You know what was nice about it also that we didn't talk about?
58:01But like in the mornings, like I was really happy. We had slow, like, well, you know, we got to the hotel and then there was like two hours before we had dinner. And then like each morning it was like an hour and a half. but from like wake up until you and I would meet until we would all meet up in the morning. And I was really happy knowing that you were like alone, relaxing in that pretty room by yourself. Shout out to Meadowood in Napa Valley, which is truly one of the most special hotels. It's all these like little bungalows with fireplaces and you're in the forest. And it's hard to even call it a bungalow because there's just, there's so, they're so perfect and beautiful inside.
58:39And then one had, the one I was in, which I remember from when dad and I were there, And as you're in the living room in the fireplace, there's sliding louvered shades. And when you open those, it opens to the bathtub from the bathroom. So someone in the bathtub can watch the TV in the fireplace. That's how our room was at the Bowery that we had like 10 years ago when we decided to get married. I need to surprise him and get that room one day. On the anniversary, that'd be fun. Yeah, totally. You know what we're going to do? We're going to do the anniversary of our first wedding. So when dad died, which was 2017 or 18?
59:1718. 18. So that's two and a half years from now. We're going to do a vow renewal for our 10-year anniversary in Sicily with everybody. Oh, then, yeah, his family can be there. That would be nice. Well, like all of our friends. Like we're just going to like rent a big place or hopefully we'll have a place by then. Actually, we'll do it there with the kids. It'll be so cute. It would be nice. I know. I know it's like very trendy to do like vow renewals after only a couple years right now. And I think people do it for content and I get it. Like weddings, I mean, I would get married every year if I could, because I love getting dressed up and I love the content.
59:57But our wedding, both like, you know, we had a quick wedding after my dad died with my whole family here. And then we had another wedding like a year later. and it's like all wedding to us is really about the people. And like, to me, the most beautiful part of our wedding, I keep telling everybody this who has a wedding. I'm like, something happens energetically when you are surrounded by so many people who love you. You're just like lifted into a next chapter of your life. That's so magical. And so I'm really excited to like revisit two kids, multiple businesses, dad dying, Carmella dying, Carmella, you know, senior dying, like all those different things and then just have all the people we love at like that stage in our life all around us, I think it's just going to be really nice.
1:00:42How come you and dad never had a vow renewal for content? You just didn't care about content. Really slacking your fucking content. We didn't even use the word content as content then.
1:00:55Such a loser mom. Anyway, we already planned on you getting married that Sunday after dad died. We just didn't know he was going to die the week before. We just didn't know he was going to die. So he went ahead and died. He was going to go to the city hall. We were going to do it Friday. Yeah, we were going to go to Beverly Hills and have lunch. He had to go and die on us. Can you imagine? What the fuck? We had talked about my wedding since the day I was born. And he died days before. Yeah. On what planet? So weird. I really do feel because it was Davide had just finally got here after this anticipation of whether you guys were, actually going to be and continue to be an item.
1:01:35And then, and then him moving here and just two weeks later, Chuck passing away. But I think on a soul level, he knew. I think the cutest thing besides like their texts to each other and dad saying, I love you, son, like all that stuff, which was just magnificent and would have been life changing for the day to have that for at least a fucking year more or something, you know, whatever. You got to really use dad's advice for a lot of things. A dad relationship would have been. Oh my God. But one of the cutest, funniest things, and we'll end on this is that, you know, I'd had like, I have had like a slew of shitty relationship.
1:02:15I bet I didn't date like any nice guys ever. I dated shitty people and then, but that's okay because then I got to Avide. So miracles happen. But I remember like calling home. There was like a couple of boyfriends and I would either be home or call home because I lived in New York and I would be crying and dad would call me and he enough with this bullshit crying over that fucking loser. I don't want to hear the shit. You don't call here with the shit.
1:02:43Motherfucker. Bullshit. Beautiful daughter crying over a god damn it. And but with Davide, he called me. He goes, I just don't know what to do. Dad, I just can't. I just want to kill him. I just want to kill him. He loved him. He was so sad. Because it was very up and down. No, of course. We talk about it. David would go silent on you and then you were beside yourself and then dad was beside himself. Because I finally found my perfect son-in-law. I know. David would ghost me so hard. But I would be like, just answer the phone. Because if he saw me, he would melt. But he would do this. So funny to like be with somebody when you've seen like such a dark side of that.
1:03:26It's like, I know we always say like, he's very like family stay together. Like what could be worth it? Like, you know, whatever. I don't even want to get into like, because I don't want to be judgmental because I don't, I've never been in that person's shoes and who knows. But we always say, because we know how bad it is on the other side, we're like getting a divorce is like never going to be worth it. Like we'll kill each other. Like, you know,
1:03:50it's better for everybody. Okay. I love you. We're going to go. Thanks so much for coming up to my bedroom. Oh, it was nice. It didn't take me long to get here. So I'm not. Yeah. Thank you for making the commute. Thank you for drinking the wine. Yeah. Thank you for providing the wine. No problem. Anything you want to say to the people? People want you to do this more often. But what we're going to do next is you, me and Davide are going to go into the studio and have it be like recorded and it'll be like a proper video and we'll have proper drinks. But I also like to have questions ahead so that I.
1:04:22No. Oh. No. But then I can think, go down, walk down memory lane. And I feel on the spot. And then like my mind is blank. And I think then afterwards I go, oh, shoot, I could have said, oh, I remember that. You're right. I remember that. I just approached this from the perspective of you wanting to have like the perfect right PR answer. No, no, no. No, it's just about trying to remember on the spot. I'll do questions ahead of time. Because later, as I'm mulling it over, I go, oh, shoot, that was a good memory. I do that too, by the way. That's just normal. But I will prep them next time. I think that makes sense to me.
1:04:58I'll allow that. Thanks, daughter. Okay, love you. Bye, love you.
1:05:07And that, ladies and gentlemen, concludes this week's episode of Everything is the Best. I hope you enjoyed it. Please rate, review, subscribe, all that stuff. Maybe leave a comment. Go ahead and follow me on Instagram at Pia Barancini. and I hope you have a fabulous, fabulous rest of your day. Love you. Ciao.
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