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28:55So we went, you know, he's 80. And so it's like working with an Italian and this is his life. But he was like magical meeting him. And he was like, it's your turn now. Like, I've made my money and I've done this. And I wanted to go to people like you and you understand it. And I've bought stuff from him for years and like always said, like, you know, like it's really special. And so I hit up my best friends, parents who are from there. And I've been there with them before because they're the fucking best. And I was like, if you guys are in New Orleans, the next couple months. Like, let me know.

29:23I want to go when you're there. And we just had like, you know, we did gala twelts on Friday. It was like perfect New Orleans weekend. It was a perfect New Orleans. I don't, you know, her dad's 82, maybe 83. And so not to be morbid, but I'm just like for my life, if my life is like a jewel, I want to cry. If my life is like a jewel box, being there with them is like, you know, I was like, I can't ever turn down missing being with Hogan in New Orleans. Wow. You know, I don't have my dad. Like Davide's dad has never, you know, it's like my mom's not really like a big traveler. I'd like to get her there in this like beautiful like last chapter.

30:01You know, I'm always like, you're a grandma. Like, yeah, you don't have to work. Like, what fun can we do? This is also why I really want to move to the East Coast because we're very far from Europe. It's hard. Yeah. It's hard with the kids and our life stage. Yeah. It's hard. Yeah. Those flights suck. 12 hours. Can we get you over here? I'd like to. would really when David opens up a store here I'm like yeah yeah yeah Greenwich Bedford whatever yeah Tuxedo Park whatever it is amazing I heard about Tuxedo Park yesterday I was like what a fucking cool place yeah like I don't I'm like all about it I love the tri-state area I love every outer borough I fucking love I'm like I love a blue collar man I'm like I want to go to New Jersey I want to go to Thomas River I want to go to Long Beach Island I want to go to Brooklyn like I just love it all.

30:47I want to be a Bahamas girl. I want to just pop over to Copenhagen for four days with my mom. Right. You know, see her cousins. Right. That thought to her is very like, right. That's like a daunting trip. It's so far from L.A. So far.

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34:59Okay, in the last four years that you've been non-fucking-stop and you've been fucking everywhere, I need to know some of your standouts. You know, I was thinking about it. Like, I feel like I was walking with the dog here today and I was like thinking about what are the places that I'm so happy. Like, Greece is always going to be my house. And I love that you guys, I'm like happy for you guys when I see that you're there. Yeah, it's like there. And I don't know if that's like just because it's attached to that's really where I felt like I've I just felt like this was my place. I went there when I was 16.

35:43I had the I just have a big connection to it. I went to school there like you went to school in Greece. Yeah, I went on this like cultural study program there in high school. Right after high school. Amazing. So, yeah. I mean, basically, like, my parents are not travelers. I didn't grow up traveling at all. Yeah, I was going to say, because this is, like, not how you grew up at all. No. And so I had—my dad's a piano teacher. I don't know if I talked about this before. Not that he's a piano teacher. Okay. So basically, he taught me how to teach piano, which is where I made money in high school.

36:19And then I was friends with like, I always befriended people whose parents were cool. And because I didn't, I mean, I love my parents, but they're not cool. They're cool in a different way. I wanted parents around who like cared about food or cared about travel or like nice stuff. And so I had a friend. Wow, you manifested your dream life, huh? Yeah, it was like her parents were into flea markets and traveling, and they invited me to go to Europe with them. And they were like, as long as you can pay to get there and for all your, like, whatever you want to buy, we'll take care of the hotel. You'll sleep with Tara.

36:57Amazing. Yeah. So I went to Greece then. And then, like, I wasn't really driven for, I was not, like, college bound. I just felt like I was more into clubbing. I don't know. I was like a rebellious high schooler. I didn't, I just didn't have like any direction, but I was around enough adults who really, I could tell now as an adult, I can say like, thank God for those like angels who really scooped me up. And one of my piano students' parents was like, so where are you going to college? And I was like, oh, I haven't really figured it out yet. And I was a junior. Maybe, yeah, I must have been a junior.

37:40And she was like, well, I met these people who have this program in Greece, and I have the brochure, and I think, like, it just seems cool. and so she gave it to me and I contacted the people because I was like I may not know where I'm going to college but if I can do a program for six months in Greece that sounds cool and all I care about is sounding cool because that's really like all the college stuff it's like you just need something that's like I'm going there and people are like oh that's so cool like that's really you just need that affirmation so So I go on this program and it like changed my life.

38:24I went from being like, I'm a club girl to like, I want to go to university. Oh, wow. Was it a lot of European kids? No, it was only like 12 American kids. And when you got there, they gave you a new name. Literally, like you arrived on the ferry. Some old lady like took a little, she did like a little baptism, took some basil, put it in water. put it on your head and gave you a name. So I was Artemis. And then you're Artemis for like six months. And you just like, I just completely leaned into it and became like this. I worked in a bakery. Yeah. I just like had a whole other life from what I was.

39:08And then I came back and I was like, my professor said, but I had this great teacher who was like, you're smart, but you are not well read and you're not very articulate and you need to read the New York Times cover to cover every day. And I was like, okay, I will do that. And so I just did. And so like at age 18, I became very self-teaching. Unbelievable. And then I went to San Francisco State, but I was like determined to get into Berkeley. And I knew there was like a weird loophole where, because like they don't want you to go from a state university to a UC. They want you to like go from a city college.

39:54Yeah. City college funnels into the UC schools. People don't know about that. It's a great path. Why don't I like make my last thing on my record be like one class at a city college. And then, so I got in. Anyway, so I graduated from Cal. It's one of my biggest like advice to give younger kids that like you can save a shit ton of money and stress if you go to a junior college and then go into a UC school. Right. And this whole thing about like the where are you going to say you're you you're going is so bad. Yeah. I don't get it. I don't have those. That's like not at all like a priority in our family by any means.

40:35I'm really happy that it's not. Anyway. Yes. So Greece is your... Yeah, so Greece. Okay, right. We're on travel. Greece is my, definitely my very happy place. I like the water. I'm not into waves. It's not wavy. It's just like, it's like perfect. I love the people. I like the simplicity of the food, everything about, and also I speak Greek, so like the Greeks love me. You speak fucking Greek? Yeah, I ended up like majoring in modern Greek. Oh my God. Yeah. It like really became a big thing in my life. I cannot believe that for all of this time and all the time, especially we've been drinking together that I've been like, speak Greek, speak Greek.

41:16Yeah. I'm good on taxis and diners. Incredible. Okay. What else have you been the last four years? I would say that's a repeat. Yes, that's definitely a repeat. I mean, I mean, I was thinking about like in my, of course, like I love, I love upstate New York. I love, honestly, like wherever I am, I'm really happy. And I think that like I was thinking about like if there's so many people who I think look at what I'm doing and they're like, oh, my God, like that's the dream. And yes, maybe for that person who's looking at it, it's the dream. And I am very happy with the things I get to do. But I'm also very happy if I'm sitting in Binghamton at Matt's mom's house and like we're just watching like like some house renovation TV shows and like just on repeat and just like drinking Pinot Grigio.

42:22Like, I don't, it's not about like, I think, I think the thing that I feel like I'm, I have, I've been gifted with being able to do all this stuff. But it's also like, it's not all that. It's like being, it's, it's like being with people you care about. wherever you are is really the thing. And like, I love nothing more than like coming back to New York, Sunday night dinners with our friends, the Lewis's, like having these routines where it's like, it's not about like constantly chasing these other, like, I love it. Yeah, and I want to get into that. And you and I've kind of talked about this a little bit, or I said something online and I think that you, I'm always so careful about what I say because I don't want to offend anybody.

43:09But at this point, I'm like, I think we should be openly talking about it because now it's a social media tactic. This idea that going on a trip, and it's always very like Europe centric or especially Italy centric, that you're going to like discover this gem. Everyone wants to be like, and like these girls will post videos that have like found this gem. And everyone's like, Babe, that place opened up in 18 fucking 34. They've been making affogado there. Yeah. Like you didn't discover anything. Right. Like I don't know what this like discover or like I found this beach. I discovered this little beach in Puglia.

43:47And it's like so all the people who live in Bari have never been to that beach. Yeah. But it's like it's this chase. It's like everyone's chasing this moment. Yeah. That like we see on Instagram that you have to fucking have that fucking moment. And you got to post about it. And it's like got to be this like clear water. it's like you know all the posts of Tanara like all of that where you're just like I need to go there I need to go there and by the way it is fucking amazing but a lot of these places I'm like especially when we talk about Sicily like Sicily is one of the best places in the world of course and I love it but if I was a tourist there and didn't have the connections that I had there I don't know it would be hard for me to navigate it in a way that I would suggest to other people to do and people do it's like I have a husband that drives and even if it wasn't a time he's an adventurer or whatever but I think that there's this.

44:35And my friends always ask me, don't you want to move there? And I have, do I have a desire to move to New York? Of course. Do I wake up every day so happy where I fucking am? Totally. Yes. And if Daveni and I lived in a shoebox upstate, we'd be happy. If we lived in Italy again, we'd be happy. And it's not because this place, of course, I love culture of place and I love little restaurants and we love food and we love the things. But I am so happy wherever I am. And I wish that like that was the like incorrigible thing to post and talk about instead of this chasing this. Like I'm so annoyed when people are like, do you just want to move to Italy?

45:15And I'm like, do you think that like everything's better everywhere else? Like why is it better there? Sure, it's a better lifestyle change. The food is cleaner. Yes, it's the size of California. So clearly it's able to operate differently than fucking America. Right. You know, and America gives us so much fucking opportunity. that like it's amazing we can complain we're not gonna you know it's like right there's a lot I'm grateful for like wherever I am but this like I have found this gem culture from like travel tiktokers in particular or like travel instagrammers is really fucking annoying to me well I also think that it's what it does is it creates this like surge of interest in a certain place always yeah And then, and then like it inevitably kind of like, I don't want to, it's not that it ruins it, but it really, it, it's like, it sort of does.

46:11Sicily, the last five years is a every summer becomes. Am I like people? By the way, it's not even it's Australians are going there. It's like it's globalization and it happens. And I don't think things are getting like like I'm not one of those people. It's like travel's ruined. But like I've I I have noticed in other places I travel to that people want to be more accommodating to tourism. And so the things that were charming interactions come now down to like a QR code at the beach club. You know, or like a pina colada on a menu somewhere where it doesn't belong there because of where I'm just kind of like and that's just the way that the world goes.

46:52And it's I'm not like bitter about it. I'm curious how this specialty that we're all craving inevitably is like making these places. I don't want to sound jaded or like a dick, but a little bit un-fucking special. Yeah. You know? Yeah. Well, I think like, you know, a lot of people will say, I can't like, I don't want to go to Rome because it's too crowded. And I completely understand that. But I feel like even in the height of when it's the most touristy busy season, it's like if you just get up and go for a walk at eight in the morning, you still have the city to yourself. so I do think like there are ways around it I think that you know I sort of feel like what about nobody nobody goes to Parma like or I know you know like what about has one restaurant there yeah there's some great food there but like there's so many you know it's like Florence is heaving yes there's too many there are too many people there at most times in the summer but like so don't go in the summer go in the winter or like don't go to Florence or go to Florence from somewhere else just for a day to go to the museum you feel like you want to go to or I just feel like it's it's for me more of a if you haven't heard about it it's probably interesting and like I was just working on this post that we actually put up today on Substack where it was about surprising combos for travel.

48:26Like, oh, what a great concept. So so basically, like, I got super excited about it for myself. It's like, where can you fly into like, let's say you went to Copenhagen, like Copenhagen has so many interesting flights into places you wouldn't know. Like, so you don't have to just be like, oh, so we're going to go. We rented a house in Puglia or in Tuscany or in Umbria, whatever. you're like okay so we did that but like maybe we're gonna add like three days on the front and we're gonna go through a place that like it does it doesn't have to be it's london or it's paris where you're like oh that's very activating and i've been there before and like there's so many things they need to do like you could you can make all of these other like from munich to Edinburgh to Copenhagen so cool so like when I'm when I'm doing that like I'm looking at all these different flight options which I don't use Claude for but I should I'm literally like where does Copenhagen fly non-stop into all the places I know dumb but it's like well your output is so high that it's just so impressive that it's like it's just like wow but like I was like okay Alicante.

49:45I mean, I'm really not good on Spain. Like I never spent time in Spain. Same. I mean, I've been to Barcelona, but I was like, how is it that like I'm looking just in the most basic way at like Google images of Alicante and the surrounding seaside and countryside and I have no visual reference for it? And how many amazing places are there that like no TikToker's gone to because they're just all going the same places. Yeah. So if you just go other places, I mean, it's hard when you're married to a Sicilian, you're going to be going there. And like, that's always going to be funny because people are like, where are you going?

50:26And I was like, I am like, yeah, unless we move like we're fucking Sicily. You know, he's never going to go to Spain. He's like, if I'm like, we should go to Spain. He'll be like, for what? Like, we're going home. Like, I want to be with my people. You can do that when you move to New York. And then Spain is much closer. That's all much closer. Yeah. But I love that. I think that's so cool and really smart. And people should really take advantage of the fact that I don't think people realize it enough that those like inter-European flights. And you have to check them and make sure you can, you know, some planes you can't check a bag or like whatever.

51:01but like what a way to think about it. Yeah. Well, I did this last year where I have a friend who was like, you know, we only ever go to Italy or we go to Greece, but we never combined them. And I was like, why? Like you can actually like fly from Catania into like Corfu or you can fly. And like, or people who are like, oh, I don't mind driving from Puglia to the Amalfi Coast. I'm like, well, that is so long. And in the summertime, it's kind of awful. And why wouldn't you just go to Greece? Like you can fly from Bari or Brindisi to Greece and you could do both. You get like a twofer. So cool. And it's such a different, it really is obviously a very different cultural thing to go from like Italy to Greece.

51:52But, you know, if you live in America and it's so expensive and you're investing your time and trying to like see a lot of things. What an unbelievable. Yeah. It ends up getting very road trippy, which is great. But talking about generation. So I was on a I drove down from upstate with Neela yesterday and she's been working with you guys a lot and like doing help, which is so cool. But she said that you guys had like this thing that you had to post because we were talking about how much we love you. I was talking about one of the things that I love about you and Matt so much that you clearly are not really going to get from just following you on Instagram because everything is, you know, you both come from an editorial background.

52:28and so everything is incredibly aesthetically pleasing and like really polished and like really sophisticated and whatever. But like the two of you, but particularly Matt is like a fucking goober. He's like so goofy and funny.

52:41Yolanda Edwards:That birthday roundup you did of him was like really showed how goofy he is. But he's so funny. And I was like, a really funny way to describe it was like when we shot that, the story for W.M. Brown and you guys came to the store and you came to the house and we had lunch and whatever. And then afterwards, Matt was like, I want to watch Die Hard. And I was like, yeah, go put. And he was like, do you have Apple TV? And I was like, yeah, he's like, yeah, I'll figure it out. And just like sat on my couch, found Die Hard, got cozy, got a blanket, already got ice cream. Then we hung out long enough to be like, then we ordered pizza.

53:14That was the best day. And it just felt like my brothers were at home from college. I love it. You know what I mean? And they were like cozy. But one of the funny things that, so I told Nila that story and I was like, that's so funny. Or like, you know, I've seen you guys have this like funny banter where Matt's like, I don't want to do that. And you're like, well, I think that the intent, I think that you were placed at that table for a really thoughtful reason. And it's probably like in your benefit. You know, I think that was a strategic, well, I don't want to sit. And then he'll like double check.

53:43Like then it sinks in what you said. And then he like runs off and just does it. And then it was just so funny. But she said that she was like, Matt, we need to like post this thing. And he like called Mila and he was like, OK, I'm at my computer. What do I do? Totally. boomer. And I was like, how the fuck are you guys doing all this travel, Unrelievable magazines, posting so much on social, creating content, doing brand partnerships, and still having this cadence in your life where I'm like, wait, the files are in the computer. No, I mean, he did something. I don't know if Nila told you this, but he did not have like the correct cover photo.

54:21You said he posted it wrong. Yeah, he did it wrong. And he was like, who cares? And I was like, well, when it's a brand partnership, you do need to care. Everyone needs to care. Everybody needs to care. And both he and Clara couldn't figure it out. And I figured it out. Oh, my God. OK, whatever. Like, I'm so done. The dynamic between the three of you also is so fucking funny. Yeah. Because she makes fun of him. He makes fun of her. Yeah. They both make fun of me. And then what I also really love is like your group of best friends, how you'll like, I don't know how to say this without it sounding odd, but like Matt like criticized someone's son one time and the man, and he was like, yeah, Matt's totally right.

55:05Like my son did act like a douchebag or whatever. And I was like, it's this very human, there's no ego involved. It's very funny. It's very down to earth. Yeah. And all you and this group of friends who all, you know, mostly all came from like working together in the editorial world, right? Like PR and everybody. Yeah. it's amazing you've all stayed so close and you're all still able to have these jobs, which is a miracle that like Dewey's still shooting and like, you know, it's like, it's so cool. And then to see you guys all just be like, act like you're all 20 together again is fantastic. Oh, I think that also when you're, I mean, I feel like we all like move around a lot.

55:46And when you find the people that you love, you just hold on to them tightly. And I think that it's like, I don't know, spending that day with you guys, like today I was talking to somebody about our summer shoot and he was like, oh my God, like, I'm just like looking at those pictures of Davide, like, I'm so nervous. And I was like, oh, we're friends. All we're going to do is hang out. Like, that's it. Like, we hang out. We capture great moments. But it's about, like, being real. And I think that in a way, like, all of the movement and the kind of chaos of all of that just reinforces, like, you have to really nurture the relationships with the people you love.

56:41and make the time to like call, DM, whatever, make sure that you build a trip around, are they going to be there? And I think it's so obvious, but like, I think - It's not because people try, and this is why I love that you guys are doing more brand partnerships, because this is what like, it's not to bring it into like being a consumer, but like this is what every brand wants, right? So like, we didn't even know that the photos of Davide like cooking or our meal were going to be in the magazine. Like that's just how we hosted our friends over, you know? And so, and that's why I have no stress about something like launching Baranchini because I'm like, there is no strategy.

57:24The strategy is this is what our house looks like. And instead of me posting like a vintage plate or a plate that I bought, it's our plate and you can buy the plate. But there is no, and you see these brands that like put together this like strategy of what they think is supposed to happen or they think it's supposed to work or like the agency said that we're supposed to do this and the key word is blah, blah, blah. And I'm like, you're all fucking missing it. And you guys just do that so well and you travel like that, you know? And so I think that there is a way, like everyone should be traveling if they can.

57:54It's fucking glorious. Yes, we don't want all these spots to blow up and things get crowded, but I also think it's amazing to go to a touristy place. I love going to fucking Rome. I want to go to the Empire State Building, by the way. Like I love walking adjacent to Times Square. Like, I don't think that there should be the shame to go places that are like touristy. They're touristy for a reason because they're fucking awesome. Just try not to go when it's so crowded that you're uncomfortable because it can be, you know, not a good experience and a waste of your hard earned money to travel that way.

58:20But I do think that we can have these intimate moments where it's not about like having to find like the one most elusive hole in the wall restaurant where you're like, we went to this place and we were with our fucking best friends. And we're going to remember forever. And it's like, or you have like that meal or it's like, that's what you're chasing is the connection with the people. Right. Right. Which is like, I think we've like lost the sauce in that a little bit. Right. That's what you guys are just doing so well through the magazine. Right. And the interviews like you're curating. It's so interesting what you do because it's so many questions from other people.

58:54So you're just while you're giving all these examples, like, you know, advice on like where to travel, you are still being like, these are my people. Right. This person is super interesting. And this is what she does. Right. And you're like putting your own people. It's a really cool way that you're doing everything. Thank you, Dara. I was thinking about how you guys love Houston's. And I'm thinking about like the connection between like Houston's and then like people. Like I have this friend who I met at the Pelicano. She's the designer, Roxanne Asseline, and she does jewelry. What is she like in real life?

59:26She must be amazing. The clothes are so cool, but she's cool. She's so amazing. So every time I see her, she has like such uniform dressing and I love it. And I'm always like, those are like the most perfect pants or the most perfect T-shirt. And I just think like in a way, there are these, it's sort of like having these things that are your go-tos. Like you go to Houston, you don't have to think about it. It's just good. It's like having like your uniform. You don't have to think about it. Then when you don't have to think about that stuff, you're not like, where are we going to go for dinner?

1:00:03Oh, my God, I got to get a reservation. What am I going to wear? I have to really like when you remove those things, then you're like able to be more present. And so in a way, I'm just like, I want to simplify so that then I can be more like taking everything in.

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1:02:27Where are you going on Friday? Flying to Rome. Okay. And we're going to be in Rome for a couple days. Then we go to Athens to do our summer shoot. Are you going to be gluten-free in Rome? Yeah. It's great vegetables. Of course. I mean, they have unbelievable other food. Yeah. I mean, I can't. And dairy. And no dairy. Yeah. Black espresso, huh? No cappuccinos. No caps. anyway we'll see you can do it yeah i'm gonna do it at least six months right and just see like how i feel and you can still have your teenies you're fine okay rome and then we're athens uh bordeaux back to rome geneva for the watch fair london to see clara back to italy for a while when you're coming to europe what's driving these trips by the way because like there's personal things and then there's work.

1:03:19It's all work. This is all work stuff. It's all work. Yeah. Just like back to back photo shoot, going to a cool, there's like an amazing Hermes thing that I'm going to. That's like they're opening up a workshop. Yeah. Just like different work things. Have you ever had an experience that was so bad you didn't write about it? Yes. Now I'm trying to remember what it was. I was with a travel writer the other day. Well, it's just that this, thing that I was just in upstate and everyone was like what did you what what was something that you couldn't write about and she got invited to some to like a new hotel and thought that she was like the hotel would be just like open and normal but it was like they invited like only a bunch of writers and had everybody like sit down at one table like it was there was no experience of the hotel because it was like conferences and cure and whatever and she was like I can't I don't know what the hotel was like, but I'm sure that's happened to you before.

1:04:17Yeah, I remember now, there was a hotel I went to in Milan and it was so bad that I checked out early and I told the PR people, I was like, just to let you know, it's not good. I did that at Post Ranch. You did? Wow. I never stayed there. I went and I visited. It was my honeymoon. What? We were only there for two nights and we didn't have any money at the time. So like our honeymoon, you know, we like used all of our last money for the wedding. And then we had no gifts. We did a honeymoon fund and we went to Post Ranch and the check-in experience was awful and weird. And then my thing about Post Ranch and by the way, not everybody all has to like the same thing.

1:05:04We all have unique lives. And we've done unique travel and we have unique tastes. We don't all need to like the same thing. But for me, post ranch seems a little bit like it's where very rich people like to go to feel like they're like roughing it and having an authentic experience. For somebody who is like, this is a big deal to really big deal to spend this money. I want to feel like I'm in a fancy fucking place with like a soft pillow. Yeah. And like cozy shit. And there's like cobwebs and chenille blankets. And like there's no service by the pool. And the pool isn't like heated. And it's like oddly quiet.

1:05:39it and i was like we both were like get the fuck out dude what oh no oh by the way we get over this is we walk in they drop our bags off it's five so we're like it's cocktail time it's our honeymoon we want to like get drunk and like have sex you know it's like what else we're gonna do and we're like so like where's the bar he's like oh the bar doesn't open until like dinner and you're like we can't get fucked up right now like okay he's like there's wine in the room and he goes but really what Post Ranch is really all about is our nature. So like we've been really known for our hiking trails.

1:06:11And Davide looks at the guy and he goes, sir, I have on laceless vans. Does it look like I like to hike? No. He's like, I am not a hiking person. This is time for relax. And I was like, yeah. And he's like, oh, yeah, I don't. And they kind of looked at us like this is not going to be your fucking place. And so we went to Ventana and the room was way less. We like told them what happened they're like oh my god we're so sorry the room was less with our own jacuzzi on a thing tons of service cozy shit fireplaces so like i was just like yeah like yeah i didn't grow up at this going to super fancy places like this all the time make me feel fancy right and so it was a really like but that's where i'm always like and if you ask most people most travel places they'll say post ranch is like the best hotel in california and that's like but it's just like all different perspective right you know right right so that's what i like about yolo if i see multiple people recommend the same thing.

1:07:03I'm like, I'm going there. Yeah. For sure. Yeah. There was a great hotel when Clara was a baby. We did a road trip. I mean, she was like maybe three months old and we stopped at a place called like the I think it was called the Hotel Lucia. And it's like on a cliff somewhere near Big Sur. Cool. And it I mean, it is like ripe for somebody to take over because like, you know sort of like 50 50 sheets and you know but like the most epic views and so much potential but yeah I don't know there was something about post ranch that I always was like I don't know I'm not I like Deachins I think I have people I know I'm dying to go there people love it I mean it's like it's not sexy but it's real yeah and it feels very like salt of the earth yeah which is it gives you the feeling.

1:07:58Yeah. It gives you the feeling. As long as you don't go there on your honeymoon and you're not like, because it's not like a place that's super sexy. But like, yeah, I don't know. Didn't you also go to San Isidro Ranch on your honeymoon or was that another time? No, we did because this is so horrible. I've never even really talked about this. We woke up that morning at Ventana and Davide's mom had died. No. Oh my God. So we stopped. So we left and stopped in San Ysidro to break up the trip. And he kind of wanted to just keep going. But Davide couldn't fly back because of his fucking visa. They said if he went back that he would have to start over with his green card.

1:08:44You know, when you can't travel. Yeah. So he had done an emergency 30 days when she got sick. And then he thought he'd get like another emergency to go to like attend his mother's funeral. And he couldn't. And we had to decide like as a couple, like it would, if he went, he'd be like, well, then I have to live. Like, then I have to live in Sicily and we would have to move back. Like it was a really, we went right afterwards, obviously. And we go, it was, he's, that was the hardest. Oh my God. We were sick about it. so we stopped at San Ysidro just to and I was like but there's nothing he could do because he couldn't leave and his family's freaking the fuck out you know and like so we it's like we would be home and I was like if we want we can just like break this up so you can like it was the oddest thing because it almost if we were home then he would just be freaking out in fucking like it so it was, we still don't know like what the right thing to do was, but my mom called and was like, there's a, she didn't get it for us, but she was like, there's a room, like it's such a, maybe it'll feel nice to be in a nice place.

1:09:49And we were like, is that selfish to like be in a nice place? Like it all felt like wrong and weird and it still does. And it was awful, really, really awful. He's like, has like a lot of guilt over that, but he also knows that she was obsessed with America and grew up showing him American movies and loving Elvis and being so and she was obsessed with him living here and living with us and the whole thing she loved our life like she was like thank God you left and like and so we were like would she want have wanted him to go back and then have to be in Italy for three years until he could come back to America you know because it wouldn't it was a lot of grappling oh wow not crazy but we were in the room that my it was in your magazine that we yeah you guys and my dad had died like the year before so it was really cute that we like got to that not cute but it was meaningful that we got to the hotel and we were in the room that my parents had had at their honeymoon because San Yusufi Duran used to be so affordable these places were not expensive but my parents were traveling yeah

1:10:47Yolanda Edwards:I wish that was like in the article that she did for you she's like we've been here we were there and I was like dude fucking is really giving rich but like these places were so cheap at the time No, I mean, I don't know when like 1500 became like the new 400. I looked just for shits at San Ysidro over. I can't even remember what it was. It was$5 ,000 a night. The fuck are you talking about? And then do I want to be around$5 ,000 a night people? Right. Can we talk about that? Yeah. I mean, that that is the that's the thing is like these hotels, which are supposed to be like this place where you can meet interesting people while you're at the cocktail bar by the pool.

1:11:32And it's like, well, if they're all just like uber rich tools, like, are you going to go back? Or are you going to find the places that are, are you going to rent a house or you're, you're going to make different choices. I heard in Lake Como last time, people from Florida making fun of people in California because California libtards are trash in front of their kids, talking about how much they love Trump. This is with a conversation I heard at Villa d 'Este, and then a kid cried because there was no breakfast breeders. And I was like, not judging these people.

1:12:04Yolanda Edwards:Maybe we go in September. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Or be mentally prepared for like, that's the crowd that we're going to be right. Or go to Lago di Garda. I'm dying to go there. Or Lago Maggiore. I'm going to Maggiore in September for a wedding. You are. And typed into Yolo, you don't know where to stay. And the Villa Felternelli in Lago di Garda, I think, is like one of the prettiest hotels ever. And I haven't been there in like 10 years, but I got to go back because it's so beautiful. What are your top three favorite hotels? Well, that stays in my mind as one of my favorites. Oh, wow. It was like, you know, you check in, they give you like a little nose gay bouquet, which definitely is like, you know, it's so sweet.

1:12:50And then they like bring you back your passport, like on a little plate with like some lemon cookies and it has a ribbon around it. Like it's just all the, all of the little, little details, like incredibly designed. It's so beautiful. I love that. I mean, I always, like, I have such a feeling for the Pelicano. So much of that is also because I'm, yeah, and, you know, Federico, the bartender. Like, I think that so many places that are special to us, like, it's the people, right? So when you connect on that or like you meet somebody who's at the next table over and then you become friends for life with them.

1:13:37I have so many people like that. I love that. So it's. But I also do love service and special things. So where else does great turndown service? You should do a fucking article on turndown service. Turndown. That's always my feedback or thought when I check in somewhere. I'm like, I can't wait to see what the turndown is. You know, we just stayed at the Iman in Tokyo. How is that just insane? that was insane and i i am so the person who's like we are not eating in the hotel we are getting out we are exploring and i was like this hotel is so great i don't want to leave like the whole time we're here it's so good and so like the first night we ate at their omakase restaurant and then the next night we were like okay well like we'll go out for dinner but first we'll have a drink at the bar then we're having a drink at the bar matt's like let's just look at the bar menu and they had like eel over rice and they had all these like they had so many things on the menu and we were like we're just staying here and it was like perfect wow like that that's what if you're gonna spend the money just like make it make it really worth it and don't leave like totally if you're gonna be exploring tokyo and in your hotel for like 10 hours then don't go to the amon because it's like, why are you going to spend the money?

1:14:56Yeah, that makes sense. But that was incredible. I mean, I love all the old school. I know, same. I love the Bristol and Paris. I think that's just magical. I love looking at a cat sauntering around a lobby. I can't deal with the cat. It's so cool. I mean, there's... Oh, I love the San Pietro. I stayed there last year. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Super old school, beautiful little like the palette is amazing the beach club the food is great the management is amazing like it's just like these places that are owned by you know it's generational and and you just feel it it's like it doesn't feel like they've all been reading the big corporate manual what places in america feel like that to you in america let's see i'm i feel like there's got to be some cute like Rhode Island-y, Maine-y things.

1:15:55Yeah, I love the Ocean House in Rhode Island, which is in Watch Hill. That's a beautiful... I've never been there. I'm dying to go. I've never been to Rhode Island. Maine. I mean, I'm trying to think where like... I mean, I know this is kind of like it's corporate. It's a Four Seasons, but I do love the Surf Club in Miami. Oh my God, of course. I think that's great. I'm down for a corporate moment. like need more coffee i'm like no but it's hard to think about i'm trying to think about what a place that i love and feel i used to love the sunset tower haven't stayed there in forever but like when it first opened we stayed i mean for years we stayed there because matt would do a lot of shooting for jeff klein so we had this credit and this credit that seemed to never end until it was covid and we stayed there for a week and like you know a suite and the credit was gone And I was like, oh, that's sad.

1:16:52You're like, go back to reality. But yeah, I feel like we stay in so many, like we stay with friends so much. Yeah, you're really good about that. I really did love San Ysidro, but I wasn't paying for it. And I think like the sting of the bill. You know what we love that is like top tier Americana, but it just hits, even though like I would decorate it differently and whatever. and it's so full of like people from LA, but like who cares? Is the fucking Rick Caruso's Miramar. Oh, right. Yeah, you love that place. You know why? I'd like to go there. Because I use my Amex points. I can go for one night.

1:17:31We go early. There's a fucking hillstone. So we have lunch at Honor Bar. Or you can go to the hotel at any time. Obviously, we just all go in a bathing suit and a cover up and we hit the beach with the kids. And then we wait for our room to be ready. they're really good about hospitality. They'll get you in early. Like it's just constant hospitality. Constant, like really beautiful. And they had a problem with that when it opened because hiring is really hard, you know, and then whatever. Like it's just the kids. I can, I can drink on the beach. My great grandparents from Italy, like hung out at Miramar.

1:18:05No way. Yes. Like there's photos of my dad playing on that beach when he's little. Like there's something about that that feels really yummy, but there's a, this antique fucking liquor license that was grandfathered in that is you can't drink on beaches in California, you know, or you can't serve, but you can there. So I can be on the beach with my kids ripping and be like another skinny Mark. And that feels really nice to me. And then we go to our favorite, you know, we go to Lucky's, which is our favorite. And then wake up in the morning, do the same thing. And then what we'll do, we'll get, they're always accommodating about a late checkout.

1:18:39and then we'll have dinner again, get in the car and drive home after dinner and the kids will fall asleep in the car. And I'll fall asleep in the car because I've had a couple of martinis. So it feels like two days. Two days for Amex points and we are so refreshed and with all like the stress in our life, it's like we've got this like quick thing locked that feels really, really, really good.

1:19:03Yolanda Edwards:We know the people at Lucky's and they remember our name. So it's all about us feeling like we are in a routine. That feels familiar and that feels really nice. That's so good. I don't like trying new things too much. Now, I'm not plugging this, but what about Chase Sapphire Reserve? The 8X on your dollar. I don't know what to do because I need to do that, but I'm so locked in with Amex for a decade. And fucking Delta. We need to have Claude solve. You know what I mean? Solve that for us. Because I think my points would go much further with a Chase Sapphire. So you used that. Okay, we're going to work on that.

1:19:37I'm doing both. I'm like dividing and conquering. I don't know if it's going to work for me, but. Okay. I want to end this with asking what is in your carry on travel bag that like not the one that you stole above, but the bag that you have. You just did that really cool. I read every single thing that everybody had in their like little top kit. Like what's in your bag? Because you're moving around a lot. so I have my smicen journal that's like you know my calendar then I have this weird calendar that's like this big that's like the month at a glance that I got at Zara home cool then I have like notebooks and I have my laptop and I keep that's a lot already that's like in a pouch that I keep down underneath the seat.

1:20:30And then I have like my little purse that my crossbody because like I take the bag that like maybe I put my jacket or depending on the season that goes up. Then I have my crossbody that has like I'm not I don't think I've ever put moisturizer on on the plane. See, I've never done a mask. This is like lip balm. That's it. You're so beautiful and low maintenance and your fucking hair is short. So you have a really big advantage. I'm constantly moisturizing and brushing my hair out because it gets tangled. Like I'm a high maintenance. I just worry that like I'm going to have, I'm going to get like clogged pores and my skin's going to break out.

1:21:12So I don't do that. But lip balm, I don't even remember hand cream. So like I love reading those stories from people, but I'm like, I will do none of those things. So this is what Emily and I were talking about you last night. And she was like, Yolanda just has it down to like a science and is unbelievably chic and unbelievably low maintenance. Well, I'm like also a big believer that like I don't even clean the seatbelt. I stopped doing that recently. I don't care. I'm just like, you know what? It's going to make me healthier. Like, and maybe that's really bad. But I just feel like I was never that person who was like cleaning my kids' hands all the time.

1:21:53I know. so I don't know I'll I'll be like I'll see other moms do it I'm like oh I should probably I do have things like you know a pepto-bismol I'll have vitamin c those liposome my next question gonna be what do you do when you get sick yeah I just like we have charcoal we have the you know those little things you need in a dire scenario when you don't feel good yeah and then like when I went to India, like we had a Z-Pak. Like, you know, when we know we're going somewhere where it might be harder to get a pharmacist to get me something, maybe, maybe not, maybe in India, it'd be even easier. But, but in our heads, it's like, we're going far.

1:22:35We need these things. So it was like antibiotics, all the things, and we never used it. So. Feels nice to have it. Yeah. Pepto. Pepto. I need to have that in my bag at all times. Yeah. I always forget. I don't like a lot of stuff, so I have it down to like a night, especially with the kids. I'm not like a chaotic. But I do have like a few, you know, I have like a moisturizer or anything, you know, hypochlorous spray. So, but you really, it's a lot easier when you don't have all that shit. Yeah. What's your crossbody bag? It's a Metier. It's cute, little, simple, very like discreet. who makes the bag that all your items go in the one that goes under the seat the one that's that's a Gurkha like something some American brand Matt gave it to me cool and then I might like I I kind of switch out the bag that goes on top of the the rollie sometimes it's like like this French brand Rue de Vernais I like the thing that has the trolley strap yeah I tried with the Alex Mills and that leaves and that includes this week's episode of Everything is the Best so like after enough times of the swing off I hope you enjoyed it.

1:23:41I hate that. When that happens, it just feels like you're like, we're not getting off to a good start.

1:23:45Yolanda Edwards:Maybe leave a comment. Last question. Go ahead and follow me on Instagram. It's a funny question because you guys have been together for a fucking effort and traveling together forever. Are there like moments when you guys are traveling where you're like, like for me, like Duff and I travel really well together, obviously. He has a little bit of anxiety about being at the airport a little earlier than I prefer. Please note that this episode may contain the endorsements and advertisements and it drives me fucking crazy because he has like a belt and a thing and he does it and he's like getting back and i'm just like you didn't have you not thought about this yet do you have moments like that with matt yeah that is the guy he's the one who's like he says no family and friends on travel day so he's like out for himself he goes like i have pictures of him where he like i can't even see him he's so far ahead of me and then i just purposely slow down and i'm like like you asshole oh my fucking god that's so funny and and and he does it to me and clara and we're like what the fuck like you don't care and he's just like well i wanted to get you know to that's his energy yeah oh my god yeah that is so fucking funny i'm gonna forever think about how many times you guys are at an airport and he's beelining that's a funny series is him just like way in front of you.

1:25:02I would be so fucking pissed. Yeah. No, they're like, people have sent me reels. Like these are like, you know, I think they even call them airport dads. Yeah. And they have like the Home Depot song playing in the background. Yeah. And it's like, that's, that's Matt. Wow. Yeah. You're really the yin to his yang.

1:25:23It's crazy. That's why it's like all awkward. It's just like high energy and like very grounding energy. So funny. Yeah. Okay, thank you so much. I love you so much. I love you so much. Thanks, Clara. I also want to shout out really quick, Clara, who is, if my kids are anything like her when she is older, I will have just done a good job. What a funny, polite... She loves you. You know, she almost flew back from Venice just to come to the party. I was going to message her, but I didn't want her to make her feel any type of way. She really, she was like, Mom, that's crazy, though, because you're leaving the next day.

1:26:02So I would literally come in for one night. And I was like, Clara, we will spend more time with them. We have to overlap this summer. Yeah. Absolutely. All right. Thank you. Thank you, love.