Home hero Lando + Hulk makes history – 2025 British GP Review with Hulkenberg, Wheatley + Binotto

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2:37It's been a lifelong dream of Lando. It was easy to see how much it meant for him. In 2025, it's Norris's name on the trophy. Lando Norris wins the British Grand Prix. Woo! Yeah, it's beautiful. I've sensed in recent races that we're getting a slightly different Lando. Lando is benefiting from having a strong teammate. He's having to work even harder to perfect himself. I thought the penalty was pretty bad, which is disappointing when the result you deserve gets taken from you. That was the most frustrated I think we've ever seen. Oscar Piastri, wasn't it? Yeah, yeah, 100%. And we like to see him in this mood.

3:18Those emotions are going to turn into lap time in Spa. What is it like being Oscar's teammate? Because he's so unemotional. Scary. Nico Hülkenberg, a podium finisher in Formula One. I don't think I can comprehend what we just done. Oh my God. The most talented driver and the longest awaited podium in the history of Formula One.

3:46A home win, a Hulkenberg podium, rain, safety cars, 75 years. Since the first Grand Prix at Silverstone, we had a classic British Grand Prix. Welcome everyone to F1 Nation here at Silverstone. I'm Tom Clarkson and joining me in the paddock is Mercedes Reserve driver Fred Vestey. And very shortly, Fox Sports Mexico's journalist Diego Meyer will join us as well. But Fred, what a crazy race. What are your biggest takeaways from what happened today? Yeah, I mean, it was definitely an unexpected race. Seeing all the drivers struggle in the weather conditions, starting out on the inters. Some drivers choosing the slicks tyres.

4:32Definitely a challenging race. But I think the fans and the world of Formula 1 love this race. And especially seeing Nico Hulkenberg on the podium, I think every single F1 fan was cheering him onto the podium, including myself. Well, we are recording the show down at Sauber. You might be able to hear the music blaring from their motorhome just next to us. I mean, it was an extraordinary story. 239 races. I remember when he was at Renault and he was in a podium position and crashed out at Hockenheim, his home race of all places. So the relief on his face, I think, said it all on the podium. To be honest with you, I think he deserved it 100%.

5:16He had the pace when he needed it, battling with Lewis Hamilton. But also, he made no wrong choices on tyres. He just perfected it all the way through. He didn't risk it when he didn't need to. And he just managed to keep it clean. And yeah, it's a deserved podium. Look, we'll come back to Hülkenberg and Sauber. Let's deal now with the two McLarens. Lando Norris wins his first home Grand Prix at Silverstone. He was incredibly emotional, but there's no doubt that the race was transformed by the 10-second penalty for Oscar Piastri. What was your take on what happened behind the safety car? I mean, I feel for Oscar.

5:58Losing a race victory like that is painful, for sure, especially to your teammate that you're fighting in the championship with. It is a very competitive time in McLaren, and every win counts right now for the championship. But I still feel that Oscar was in a commanding position with all the pace he needed to win this race, and it seemed a bit unnecessary to risk it like that during the safety car. Some may argue if it was fair or not. I'm not going to go into that because I haven't seen it in that detail. but yeah he had the pace to to win this race and he didn't need to to make any yeah risky moves like that so yeah the reference for the stewards was actually montreal with with your man george russell because something sort of similar happened behind the safety car there george russell applied 30 psi of pressure on the brake pedal here oscar piastri according to the stewards applied 60 psi So double, and he slowed down by 100 miles an hour.

7:01And that was the reason he got the penalty. And of course, it did transform not only the race, but as you alluded to there, it's small margins in this championship. He's going to swing it one way or the other. And Oscar, I think, after the race was very aware of that. He was very brief in the TV pen. And he came up to the FIA press conference, which I host. And I'm not exaggerating, 25 minutes before Lando and Nico Hülkenberg. Admittedly, I think they were talking a lot. But I've never seen Oscar this annoyed by anything, actually, let alone anything in racing. So it'll be interesting to see how he bounces back.

7:42I think he's very steely. And I'm sure at Spa, we're going to see not what anger can do for a driver. but I think he will be very good at Spa. He loves fast corners there and stuff, doesn't he? But what about Lando Norris, though, Fred? I mean, you've won many races in your career. Can you imagine what it feels like to win your home Grand Prix? I mean, it's been a lifelong dream of Lando, probably any Formula 1 driver winning in their home country. That being the British Grand Prix, probably the biggest of all. I do understand Lando is very, very proud of himself and happy for this race win. And it was easy to see on TV how much it meant for him.

8:26Yeah, and he had three grandstands full of his own fans. I mean, he really embraced the British Grand Prix. I mean, the atmosphere this weekend has been extraordinary. 500 ,000 fans over the weekend. 164 ,000 fans today on race day, which is 4 ,000 more than there were last year. And we were eulogizing about the number of fans then. But give us your thoughts on how it played out between the two McLaren drivers this weekend. Because on Friday, Lando Norris was ridiculously quick. He set a really, really good lap in FP2. And yet Oscar qualified ahead of him. I'm quite, he seems to be a bit of a slow burn.

9:13One of those drivers that works at it, progresses from one session to the next and then continues to get better. Whereas, you know, Lando sort of felt like it. He peaked on Friday and then wasn't able to deliver the lap on Saturday. And actually Oscar had the legs of him in the race if it wasn't for the 10 second penalty. Back in 2020, I was teammates with Oscar. So I do know him very well. I have raced against him. with him and what Oscar is good at is learning, is understanding the data and always improving. He was fast but he was even faster when he had the time to develop and to understand and work at things and I think that's why he's so competitive at McLaren because he obviously they have the car, they have the pace but against Lando he basically has a good reference and he has also the potential in fp1 fp2 fp3 to develop into quali and that's where it all matters so it's good to show pace on friday but practice is just practice and you need to continue to move forward ahead of the race and qualifying what is it like being oscar's teammate because he's so unemotional is that scary is that quite infuriating as his teammate it is it is it's It's quite scary for sure.

10:34When you had a bad race or a good race and you see the guy reacting the same way, then you know there is something deep in there, big potential, and that's what I've experienced being his teammate. Funny enough, he had one race win in F3 in 2020, I had three, but he still managed to win the championship, and I think that tells a lot about Oscar. He's very consistent. He doesn't show his emotions and he doesn't go up and down that much. He's just very consistent and delivers the job. And if he's going to win the championship this year in F1, that's because he's the most consistent and he just keeps delivering, even when the pressure comes at him later this season.

11:16How do you think this setback will affect him mentally? We will have to wait to Spar to see what's going to happen. But generally speaking, I think he's going to show up even more determined with a bit of anger for sure he knew he had this silverstone win in his bag but didn't manage to win and and for sure that's gonna those emotions are gonna turn into to lap time in spa so i would expect a very strong oscar at spa we've spoken about how cool oscar is right but i've sensed in recent races that we're getting a slightly different lando he feels calmer of course he's overjoyed to win his home race but I feel that the highs aren't quite so high and the lows aren't quite so low he won under pressure in Austria last week from Oscar he did everything he needed to do would you agree with that do you think he's changed I think as a driver when you feel the pressure you also learn to deal with it and at some point you come to the conclusion that if you give it your absolute everything and just enjoy that moment you're in and you have a much higher chance of performing and I wonder if Lando is is going down that direction and just being more himself with the car he knows what he needs to do he just needs to perform every single session a lot of the journalists after the race here we're asking him if it was the new front suspension that has helped him get more feel and interestingly one of the things he said in the press conference on thursday that is that he is a driver who gets most of his feeling through his hands he relies on his hands more than his feet and his bum which is interesting but equally he was saying it's not just the suspension it's i've done a hell of a lot of work myself actually i'm really grafting away with my team he said back at the mtc something that just comes to my mind is how lucky McLaren actually is having two great drivers that is fighting like this.

13:26Because yes, it will be painful sometimes on track when they are side by side risking it for the race win. But Lando is benefiting from having a strong teammate. He's having to work even harder to perfect himself, to be able to be world champion. And the same for Oscar. They both need to work extremely hard. So it wouldn't surprise me if they have both stepped up their game by quite a bit in the recent weeks. It's kind of Senna and Prost, isn't it? Because they did the same back then. I'm sure Rosberg and Hamilton at Mercedes in 2016 was the same as well. And Lando has now won back-to-back races for the first time in his career.

14:04He's brought the gap down to eight points in the World Championship. You know, it's almost like we're at the halfway point. We've had 12 races, we've got 12 to go, and they're kind of level on points. It feels like that. Exactly, it is as close as it can be and I think if you ask anyone in the F1 paddock currently, no one knows who's gonna take victory in the World Championship. So it's how it should be and yeah, we should all be grateful for having such a great battle at the top of Formula 1. Do you think it's gonna go down to the wire? I think it will. I mean by the wire I mean the last race?

14:40I expect it could be something like that this year. I mean they're both very very strong and almost every single session they're within one tenth half a tenth sometime and when it's like that I mean Lando still has many wins to go this year and I'm sure Oscar the same so at this point I can't really tell you who's gonna win but it's definitely exciting do you think it'll stay harmonious I'm not sure obviously being at Mercedes I know how it has been in the past, having two very, very competitive drivers, very quick drivers fighting for the championship. And it is very difficult to control. So McLaren really need to be on top of that and have their lines cut out before the race so they know which direction they should go.

15:27But yeah, we saw in Canada that things can happen between teammates and I wouldn't be surprised if it can happen again during this year. But also, Fred, I feel there are still 12 races left so you know there is still time if one of them makes an error there is still time to bounce back from that but as the races start to run down and suddenly we've got eight seven six five races left the stakes get higher don't they and that is when we're going to find out really whether it's going to stay harmonious yeah exactly and also who can who can manage the pressure because right now as you said you still have if you have a bad weekend now you still have 12, 11 weekends to take it back and mentally it's probably easier to overcome.

16:12If you have that bad weekend with two weekends to go and you are already behind, that can be a very, very big hit mentally. So there we're going to see who will be the true winner. Now, Fred, I know you've got to go. The simulator beckons. Luckily, it's only six miles down the road and not in a different country this time. But before you go, can I just quickly get two things from you? Mercedes this weekend. It's been very difficult to follow the progress of the team. Slightly struggling and then out of nowhere George Russell delivers that P4 in qualifying and then man, you rolled the dice in the race with strategy, didn't you?

16:50Yeah, I think Friday was quite disappointing for the team. The hot conditions was definitely quite a difficult thing on the tyres. But then George's lap in qualifying was very very good and he managed to put together a very strong lap almost very close to pole position which was quite amazing and surprising in some way coming from friday can i can i use a term that's so often used in formula one did he outperform the car whatever that means did he outperform the car i don't know that's uh that's a big question even possible i would say if he was on pole i would dare to use the words that he outperformed the car but he definitely put together at a very, very strong lap, and that was impressive.

17:38But, yeah, it is difficult to pinpoint exactly what this weekend, what potential there was. Obviously, in the race, very risky calls and strategy that just didn't play out the right way. Starting on Inters, then boxing just before the start to put slicks. The track was pretty much dry, sector one, sector two, but actually very wet sector three. and yeah that was Fred can I ask who made that call was it the driver or the team I mean it's a combination for sure the team was aware that it was drying quite significantly they were also aware that it was going to rain eventually in the race but the final call is always done by the driver you are in the car you can see and feel the track and yeah of course it's tough when it's not the right call George would have been a hero if he was leading the race after 5 laps hey a very very experienced engineer in formula one once said to me you have to deal with situational awareness as in deal with what is in front of you don't try and preempt what the weather is going to do and i remember back in 2007 at the malaysian grand prix it was kimmy reichen's first year at at ferrari and the track was still bone dry and ferrari came in and put intermediate tires on and everyone else was still on slicks and of course within two laps the tires were ruined and he was going backwards so everyone was going what are you doing and of course today there was much more advantage potentially to be gained because we it was still a little bit wet but would you agree with me that more often than not if you deal with what is actually happening in front of you, it works out for the better?

19:25Yeah. Who knows what? Most of the time. It's very difficult. I mean, in hindsight, it's always easy to discuss these things. I'm the king of 20-20 hindsight. As I said before, if George was in the lead, he would have been a hero for the choice made. But at the same time, when you don't have the outright pace to maybe be on the podium, I think you're more likely to take some more risky situations, be more brave on strategy, Sometimes it pays off, sometimes it don't. I think the top three today, the McLarens and Nico, they deserve to be in the top three because they made zero mistakes on strategy and in driving.

20:02And that's why they were on the podium. What was the mood in the camp after the race that this was a missed opportunity? I mean, obviously with Kimi being rear-ended and having to retire and George's race not really going as planned, The mood wasn't great, obviously. I think it's a time to regroup and come back for Spa, hungrier than ever to perform. Brilliant insight. Fred, it's been a joy to have you on the show. Last thing, I think Nico Hülkenberg got 50 % of the vote on the TV for driver of the day. Who is your driver of the day? He's getting 51 then because he's my hero as well. The last 10 laps, I was just following the gap between Lewis and Nico.

20:49So that was the only thing that mattered, which is it was so good for Formula One to see Nico get his first podium. So yeah, drive of the day easily. It was Nico Hülkenberg for me. Brilliant. Fred, thank you so much for your time. Enjoy the same. See you soon. Thank you very much. This episode is sponsored by Indeed. Building a great team is never easy. If you're a small business, hoping the right people see your job posting isn't the best growth strategy. When the pressure's on and you need the right hire, This is a job for sponsored jobs. Indeed Sponsored Jobs gets you quality candidates when you need them most.

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24:04And here is my second teammate of the show. I've always wanted to be your teammate in reality. I remember we did a kart race together in Colombia once, didn't we? Diego Meyer from Fox Sports Mexico. Welcome to the show again. And can we start by getting your thoughts on McLaren, the 10-second penalty for Oscar Piastri? What did you make of it? Well, thanks, Tom. Yeah, it was a nail-biting race all the way through. I'm fascinated by Silverstone because it always delivers. I think especially for these ground-effect cars, it's the perfect track. They can race side by side. The track is wide enough.

24:48There's plenty of high-speed corners. We got to see Max drifting that car on Maggot Beckett's Chapel like nobody I have seen for many years. And then finally losing it out of stow when this incident happened that you mentioned with Oscar. Probably Max made it look a bit worse than it was. I asked in the TV pen to Oscar if maybe that made it look worse than it really had been. But I guess Oscar could have done without that. I mean, it looked a bit, he looked to me like Max from many years ago, making these kind of things, which in the end, Max didn't have the pace to keep up with him in terms of, you know, the track being in that condition and him battling with that very small tea tray, as Christian Horner told me about the rear wing on the grid.

25:45So his rival was going to be Lando. Lando was behind Max. in hindsight, I think he shouldn't have gotten to that limit on the restart. He has his own view and obviously he's very respectable. He's the one sitting on the car. He says he did the same restart process twice and once got penalized, once he didn't. Maybe we'll have to review all that in detail, but the FIA has all the data to call the shot. So yeah, I think this is one that Oscar should have won and he didn't but we we had the the battle shaping up but it was too late because we already had the penalty. Zach Brown said after the race that the safety car light went out pretty late and therefore Oscar didn't have much time to let the safety car go and give himself enough time to get up to racing speed and get some heat in the tires and I mean that's that's the defense for Oscar Piastri, isn't it?

26:43Yeah, of course. But I think he had plenty of time before that to warm up the tires, from my view, obviously. But he could have restarted later, maybe. The thing is, with this track configuration on the last sector, they always have to get going before Stowe. Otherwise, they may be vulnerable come the first heartbreaking point on the sector one. so yeah I mean I understand Saks view obviously he wants to be on his driver's side but if you look at the overall picture the speed he had at the beginning had Lando the speed to overtake really and could we have seen another battle between them unfold when he was willing on Oscar at the end maybe that's the sad part of it of the penalty that we didn't get to see that But I'm sure with 12 races to go, we'll get to see that somewhere else.

27:39There was nothing to choose from them, really, in terms of pace. I was fascinated watching their lap times. When Oscar was told about the 10-second penalty, his next lap was half a second a lap faster. Boom, you could just see he was unleashing something in the car, wasn't he? Philando, he's enjoying a bit of a purple patch, isn't he? He's ticked off Monaco, he's ticked off his home race this year. he even if he doesn't win the world championship he's had some milestones this year hasn't he absolutely i mean it's the first time that he gets back-to-back wins i mean he got last win 2024 first win 2025 but there were many months in between and two different cars this is now getting some momentum okay uh without oscar's penalty we don't know if he would have won the race but he showed he had the pace to battle for the victory and i think that's important that, I mean, some people may say, okay, he got it handed by Oscar's mistake or penalty or however you want to see it.

28:38But he showed that many stages of the race that he was getting more speed at the right times because, I mean, Lando is a very experienced driver by now. I think he knew from the very beginning that the race was not going to be won or lost or maybe not won in the first part because with the changeable weather, there were probably going to be further opportunities to get his race going in terms of trying to get the victory. He spoke about looking after the tyres at certain points, not knowing really how long the scenes would be, especially on the intermediates. So it's hard to judge how quick he was relative to Oscar at some points because especially at the beginning of the race when he was wet, I mean, Oscar's pace was absolutely blinding.

29:24I mean, he was seconds quicker than anyone. obviously there was max in between at some point but he was really really on it and it didn't look like there was anybody going to be able to challenge him but it was going to be a long race changeable weather is going to be come to one or another depending on the conditions and and i think lando just managed it in a way that he had enough to battle in the end but the penalty decided did you understand uh oscar's radio message towards the end of the race when he said if there's any chance that you might get it overturned, can we swap positions? That's what we call wishful thinking, I think, really.

30:06A hundred percent, yeah. I asked him that very question, like, what was the logic between that? I mean, about saying that, and he said it was out of desperation. And it was. Just frustration. Yeah. That was just frustration. In fact, that was the most frustrated, I think, we've ever seen. Oscar Piastri, wasn't it? Yeah, yeah, a hundred percent. and we like to see him in this mood as well because up to now I think we have seen, you know, like a very, an Iceman basically, being able to manage emotions every time, not getting ahead of himself, getting the worst out of Max like he did in Jedha, but this time he looked a bit more vulnerable.

30:48I think Oskar's a guy who will never get angry or happy in terms of his own performance. I think the frustration is that this was a third party and a decision that he didn't. It was sort of out of his hands. 100%, yeah. I mean, it was a call by the stewards. You can agree with it or not, but I'm sure he feels it was taken out of his hands. But I'm sure when he reviews this, he'll learn from this. We forget that he's still very young in his F1 career. He's only raised for McLaren and he's only going to get better, I think. Now, one driver who is not young in Formula One terms, he's 37 and has been in the sport for 15 years.

31:30Nico Hülkenberg gets his first podium in Formula One. It was sensational. No one has ever waited as long to stand on a Formula One podium. Get rid of that stat and celebrate Nico Hülkenberg. 239 starts and a podium finisher in Formula One at long, long last. He did it. I don't think I can comprehend what we've just done. Oh, my God. Nico, let's come to you. Very well done. Your first podium. What a moment for you. Just describe how you feel. Yes, it's a lot to take into process. it's been you know a very intense race it's so intense for us in the car in these changeable conditions in a damn track and you know you always feel like with one foot you know you're in the wall when you're exploiting and you know on the limit and trying to push so yeah very intense obviously it was a kind of a distance battle with Luis at the end who was you know obviously making up some ground but not enough luckily for us at the end so yeah everything coming together obviously big relief very happy you know positive very very positive day and you know from a massive kind of low yesterday being almost kind of last and being last literally on the grid to to this result is uh yeah it's kind of surreal um it's going to take a few days a few moments you know to process everything and take it all in good news is we have two weeks now to enjoy it you know and uh to celebrate it properly over the next week uh before we we go again and how much more is possible with this car you've scored points in the last four races the team has outscored red bull at the last four races just how much more can you do you want even more jesus i mean i think that's pretty pretty good for for starters for today i think uh you know if we had a dry race it would have been a very different day and outcome for us you know whilst we've made some really good improvements since barcelona you know today is obviously circumstantial you know and and and the conditions made this result possible and happened.