Amb. Jamieson Greer, Iranian Foreign Minister Abbas Araghchi, Christine Lagarde

12:52Margaret Brennan:So do you believe President Trump plans to strike Iran, or is he using this threat as leverage? Well, I'm not, I cannot judge.

13:04Jamieson Greer:But one fact is there, that if they want to find a resolution for Iran's peaceful nuclear program, The only way is diplomacy. And we have proved this in the past. And I believe that still there is a good chance to have a diplomatic solution, which is based on a win-win game. And a solution is at our reach. So there is no need for any military buildup and military buildup cannot help it and cannot pressurize us.

13:39Margaret Brennan:Well, you said on Friday that you would have a draft proposal within two to three days. Have you gotten the Supreme Leader to sign off on that proposal yet? And if so, when will you give it to Envoy Steve Whitcoff?

13:53Jamieson Greer:Well, we are still working on that. And we are trying to make it something which consists of, you know, elements which can accommodate both sides' concerns and interests. And we are working on those elements. And I believe that when we meet, probably this Thursday in Geneva again, we can work on those elements and prepare a good text and come to a fast deal. This is my understanding. I see it quite possible.

14:25Margaret Brennan:So you have confirmed a meeting with Steve Whitcoff Thursday in Geneva, but your leadership has still not signed off on the proposal. Is that right?

14:34Jamieson Greer:But these are two separate things. Of course, we continue our negotiation. At the same time, we are working on the elements of a deal and a draft of the text. So I hope that when we get there, we are prepared to talk and negotiate on those drafts.

14:56Margaret Brennan:Well, let me ask you this. You helped negotiate that 2015 nuclear deal under the Obama administration. How would this deal with Trump be different than that one?

15:08Jamieson Greer:Well, 10 years have passed, and there is a new situation. Our nuclear program has advanced technologically, more advanced at that time. And there are, of course, more sanctions and more pressures. So I believe that a better deal than JCPOA or 2015 nuclear deal is possible. And there are elements that could be much better than the previous deal. So... Like what? I have the experience of that deal, as you said. I negotiated that deal. We went into so many details, but I think right now there is no need for that much details. We can agree on basic things and we can make sure that Iran's program, nuclear program, is peaceful and would remain peaceful forever.

16:06Jamieson Greer:And at the same time, more sanctions would be lifted.

16:09Margaret Brennan:Well, just very quickly, you're talking about nuclear. You are offering a nuclear only deal at this stage because Secretary Rubio said anything meaningful would also have to involve ballistic missiles and your support for proxies in the region.

16:26Jamieson Greer:Right now we are negotiating only nuclear and there is no other subjects.

16:30Margaret Brennan:Okay. Would you be willing to allow weapons inspectors unfettered access to your nuclear sites and for American inspectors to be among them?

16:39Jamieson Greer:Well, we are a committed member of NPT, non-proliferation treaty, and we have a safeguard the agreement with the agency, International Atomic Energy Agency, and we are ready to cooperate with the agency in full according to the, you know, safeguard, and we may accept in certain conditions the additional protocol to the safeguard, to the NPT, and I think a full verification mechanism, full monitoring mechanism is acceptable and can be in place. Okay.

17:18Margaret Brennan:So you continue to say that your nuclear program is peaceful and you know there are a lot of skeptics around the world, including in the United States Congress. There's pressure on President Trump from within his own party. There were 52 Republican centers, 177 House Republicans who have called on President Trump to demand zero enrichment and full dismantlement of your nuclear program. Why should President Trump consider allowing Iran to have even the smallest bit of enrichment?

17:52Jamieson Greer:Well, first of all, enrichment is our right. We are a member of NPT and we have every right to enjoy a peaceful nuclear energy, including enrichment. How we use this right is something related to us only. The enrichment is a sensitive part of our negotiation. The American team knows our position, we know their position, and we have already exchanged our concerns. And I think a solution is achievable, but I'm not going to negotiate through media.

18:34Margaret Brennan:Now, I understand, but we have seen very public statements from the president that he said no enrichment and that's a red line. But when you say it's your right, OK, but you could get enriched uranium and buy it from someplace else. You know this. You've done this. is demanding the right to enrich on Iranian soil really worth the risk right now? You're facing a potential destruction of your country and the regime based on the kind of military buildup we're looking at.

19:07Jamieson Greer:Well, I think as a sovereign country, we have every right to decide for ourselves by ourselves. We have developed this technology by ourselves, by our scientists. and it's very dear to us because we have paid a lot, we have paid a huge expense for that. We have been under sanctions for at least 20 years and we have lost our scientists and we have had a war because of that. So that is now a matter of dignity and pride for Iranians and we are not going to give it up. There is no legal reason to do that. While everything is peaceful, while everything is safeguarded by the agency, while we had an agreement in the past when we remain fully committed to that.

19:52Jamieson Greer:And, you know, it was the U.S. who just withdrew with no justification. So we are a committed member of NPT. We want to use our right. We want to have our right and to exercise that.

20:03Margaret Brennan:But you understand this could be make it or break it for you here. I mean, look, your air defenses were largely demolished by Israel this past summer. They dominate your military. They killed the leader of your most powerful proxy in Hezbollah. The United States bombed your underground nuclear facilities. Your economy is in shambles right now. So why do you think the regime could even survive unless you give this up?

20:32Jamieson Greer:Well, that is not the case when you talked about the air defense and the war we had with Israel. You know, yes, we had a problem with our air defense, but Israelis had also a problem with their air defense. and our missiles were able to hit targets inside Israel. So, you know, they started the war, but after 12 days, they asked for a ceasefire, unconditional ceasefire. Why? Because they couldn't defend themselves against our missiles. So we have a very good capability of missiles, and now we are even in a better situation than previous war. So as a matter of fact, we are in a powerful position to defend ourselves.

21:09Jamieson Greer:We know how to defend ourselves. We did it in the 12-day war, and we are fully prepared to repeat that if necessary.

21:17Margaret Brennan:Well, respectfully, Israel has air superiority over Iran. But let's talk about what you are saying in terms of your—

21:25Jamieson Greer:No, our missiles have also superiority over the space of Israel. They can hit their targets. They hit their targets in a very exact way, and they can do it again.

21:36Margaret Brennan:OK, well, there are 40 ,000 American personnel in the Middle East right now. In Iran's letter to the U.N. Security Council, you seem to threaten them because you said America will bear full responsibility. You said you don't want war. But if that's what happens, all bases, facilities and assets of the hostile force in the region will be legitimate targets. Are you saying Iran will hit U.S. bases in the Gulf or will you also bomb the Gulf countries that are your neighbors?

22:04Jamieson Greer:Well, I'm not going to say what we are going to do exactly. Obviously, we defend ourselves. If the U.S. attacks us, then we have every right to defend ourselves. If the U.S. attacks us, that is the act of aggression. What we do in response is the act of self-defense. And it is justifiable and legitimate. So our missiles cannot hit the American soil. So obviously we have to do something else. We have to hit the American's base in the region. That is a fact. I am a diplomat. I'm not supposed to talk about our military plans, but what can I say is that why we should go for war when there is every possibility for a peaceful solution.

22:54Margaret Brennan:Mr. Foreign Minister, I have more questions for you, but I am out of time here. We are going to watch this diplomacy very carefully to see what happens in the coming days. Thank you for joining us. We'll be right back with a lot more. Thank you. Stay with us. CBS News will have full coverage this Tuesday of President Trump's State of the Union and the Democratic Party's response. You can tune into our digital network CBS News 24-7 starting at 5 p.m. And primetime coverage on CBS and Paramount Plus will begin at 9 p.m. Eastern. We'll be right back with the president of the European Central Bank, Christine Lagarde, in a conversation with a bipartisan group of governors.

23:33Margaret Brennan:Stay with us.

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24:14Margaret Brennan:Welcome back to Face the Nation. We're joined now by the head of the European Central Bank, Christine Lagarde. The ECB sets interest rates for many countries in the European Union, which is America's largest trading partner. It's great to have you here. Great to be here, Margaret. Well, particularly in this moment in time where there is confusion over what happens next with global trade. I saw that the chancellor of Germany, Germany's the biggest economy in Europe, he came out and said tariffs harm everyone. The biggest poison for the economies of Europe and the U.S. is this uncertainty about tariffs.

24:47Margaret Brennan:Did you hear and get any clarity from Ambassador Greer about what's going to happen next?

24:55Abbas Araghchi:I'm not so sure. And I tell you, I think it's critically important that all people in the trade, both outside of the United States, but also in the United States, have clarity about the future of the relationships. Because, you know, it's a bit like driving. You want to know the rules of the road before you get in the car. It's the same with trade. It's the same with investment. You want to know what the rules are. And you want to avoid having to, you know, come back and claim tariffs back because this is just not the purpose of people doing business. They want to do business. They don't want to go into legal lawsuits.

25:39Abbas Araghchi:So I hope it's going to be clarified and it's going to be sufficiently thought through so that we don't have, again, more challenges and the proposals will be in compliance with the Constitution, in compliance with the law.

25:54Margaret Brennan:Well, what you just said sounded very similar to what one of the justices raised, I think was Justice Gorsuch saying that that's why there is the call to put things in law so that there is clarity for planning ahead. I didn't hear Ambassador Greer say with any certainty that they're going to try to put any of these things in law. Just use existing regulations is what I heard him say. But he did seem certain that the existing trade deals will hold. The EU and the U.S. do have an agreement, 15 percent tariff ceiling in a recent trade deal. But there's an emergency meeting about all this tomorrow.

26:31Margaret Brennan:Do you see that as disruptive, that this could be in jeopardy, in fact?

26:38Abbas Araghchi:You know, I'm no longer a trade minister. I used to be. So I don't know what the outcome of those meetings will be. But, you know, it's not as if it was sort of straightforward, 15 percent across the boards. There are also exemptions. There are carve outs. There are areas for which there is no tariffs. So I think if it shakes the whole equilibrium, which, you know, people in the trade had got used to because they continued trading after the April decisions and the July trade arrangement between the U.S. and Europe. But to sort of shake it up again is going to bring about disruptions in the business, for sure.

27:15Margaret Brennan:Well, when you were last year in October and I asked you about the impact of the tariffs, you said the global economy had not yet felt the pain. Did we avoid that pain? Did the consumer avoid the pain?

27:27Abbas Araghchi:I don't think the consumers avoided the pain. And I think that there are many studies that are being completed now to determine what is the impact and where is the burden of tariffs. And I think that while some exporters have borne some of the brunt, most of it was borne by the US importers and eventually the US consumers. Because the US importers have squeezed their margins a bit to absorb some of these additional costs due to tariffs. But there is a point where you don't squeeze your margins so much and you have to pass it on to the consumers. I think this is what we are beginning to see. And, you know, multiple studies and very serious people are looking into this.

28:17Abbas Araghchi:We are trying to look at the data ourselves to make sure what impact it has on trade and on our economies. And this is a continuous process, which is clearly going to be a bit disrupted by the current development.

28:30Margaret Brennan:I want to ask you about, as a central banker, your thoughts on some of the populism we're seeing right now. You took a lead role in defending Chair Powell, Jerome Powell, here in the United States after President Trump's Justice Department launched an investigation into him. You said it was critical to preserve the independence of central banks with full respect for the rule of law and democratic accountability. We know Powell is set to be replaced in May by Kevin Warsh, someone you also know from your time as a trade minister. Do you believe that he personally can resist political pressure from the president?

29:10Abbas Araghchi:First of all, I have enormous respect, as you know, for Powell, for Kevin Walsh and for Fed chairs in the past. And I'm very proud to receive an award tomorrow in the name of Paul Volcker. You know, for monetary policy, the rule of law is critically important. and the independence of a central bank is critically important. We have seen in history, we have seen in literature, we have seen in just anything that analyzes the activity of a central bank, be it the Fed, be it the ECB, that the independence matters a lot. Why is that? Because you don't want someone who sets interest rates, who has in charge price stability and financial stability.

29:59Abbas Araghchi:You don't want that person to be under political influence. And the decisions that we make generally do not impact right away. They produce an effect six, 12, 18 months, sometimes two years down the road. In the meantime, the political life continues and we have to be in a way immune to that. That's why many central bankers around the world signed this support to central bank independence as applied to Chair Powell.

30:26Margaret Brennan:It was an incredible statement because usually bankers want to stay out of that spotlight. But you see a real risk here. And there is concern about this populist wave, even in France. The far right could win the French election next year. I have to ask you about these reports that you might be leaving the ECB early because of basically an insurance policy to allow for the French president to select a successor rather than potentially a far right leader, helping to select ahead?

31:01Abbas Araghchi:I'm riveted to a mission. And my mission is price stability, financial stability. I want the euro, which we are custodian of, to be strong and fit for the future. I think we've achieved a lot. Inflation is at target. Growth is OK. Not brilliant, but resilient, 1.5 percent. And unemployment is at the lowest level ever. But we need to consolidate all that. And my baseline is that it will take until the end of my term. And electors in any country in the world make their choices, and those choices have to be respected.

31:36Margaret Brennan:So, nope, we are not answering on the leaving early, but you think it sounds like it'll take more work till the end of your eight-year term. Christine Lagarde, thank you very much for your time this morning. We'll be right back. We spoke Friday with a bipartisan group of governors, Democrats Laura Kelly of Kansas and Andy Beshear of Kentucky, along with Republicans Mike Braun of Indiana and Ohio's Mike DeWine. The conversation took place before President Trump announced a new 15 percent global tariff to replace those tariffs struck down by the Supreme Court. We began by asking what impact the ruling might have on their states.

32:17Abbas Araghchi:I'm hopeful, optimistic that it will settle some of the issues that we have, particularly in our agricultural industry.

32:24Margaret Brennan:They've been hit very, very hard by these tariffs. And I'm hoping that this court decision will reverse some of those and allow them to get

32:32Abbas Araghchi:back to business again.

32:34Margaret Brennan:Governor Beshear, Kentucky Bourbon had been hit hard by those retaliatory tariffs. Does this ruling do much for that industry or more broadly for your state?

32:42Abbas Araghchi:I hope so. Tariffs are a tax on the American people. We've seen studies that show that 90 percent of these tariffs are being borne by American business. Those are all in our states as well as our people. We've seen parts of the economy slow down because of it. It can add 30 percent more cost to a major new construction project, which which could slow down new jobs coming to our communities. Bourbon's been hit hard. And now this is the second straight time. And this is from a state where both of our U.S. senators and this governor, despite being in different parties, are all against tariffs.

33:18Margaret Brennan:Governor Braun, for you, what are you seeing out in Indiana? Because we checked the stats and it looked like your auto and machinery manufacturing have lagged a bit. The Indiana Business Review says your farmers were hit hard by retaliatory tariffs. Is this going to bring relief?

33:34Christine Lagarde:So Indiana's, along with Wisconsin, the two biggest states per capita manufacturing. So tariffs would have been a plus due to the industries that have been kind of hollowed out. You look at Gary, Indiana. That was the second largest city in Indiana. Steel goes overseas. I think the key is trade has to be fair and free. And from the Marshall Plan through rebuilding the global economy, we did some things that got that out of balance. I mean, we were in a trillion dollar, give or take, annual deficit in trade, two trillion on our fiscal account. That turns into a debt or nation. So ideally, through reciprocity, you get things down and even, free and fair, and get back on an even playing field.

34:26Christine Lagarde:over those 40, 50 years, it got imbalanced. And I think that's where Trump was coming from.

34:32Margaret Brennan:But the court said he over overreached.

34:35Christine Lagarde:Well, that's a constitutional issue. And yes, you have to deal with it in your state, though.

34:41Margaret Brennan:You said you believed this theory that it might actually help bring back some of those manufacturing jobs. Did you see that it did any of that?

34:48Christine Lagarde:Yes, it was starting. I mean, the amount of investment that's coming back to this country that whooshed out of it, that created chronic trade deficits. That needs to be rectified. And you can do that through tariffs. You can do it through trade negotiations. And we were going the wrong way for a long time.

35:09Margaret Brennan:So you think this is a negative?

35:11Christine Lagarde:I think there are going to be other ways to continue what's already occurred. It'll be interesting with the countries they've already done deals with, whether they'll try to renege. I got a feeling a lot of them will stay put with the trade deals they put in place.

35:25Margaret Brennan:Governor DeWine, for you in Ohio, the Cleveland Fed said the tariffs drove price increases across multiple sectors in your state, including in manufacturing and including in retail. Do you believe their analysis or do you believe the president's analysis?

35:40Abbas Araghchi:First of all, Margaret, I don't think we know what's going to happen. Now, after this ruling. You know, look, the president, I'm sure, is going to look for any way he can to basically go back and do this. He pretty much said that. One of the dissents certainly said he had the authority to do it. We'll have to see. So I don't think anybody knows. It's been mixed for us. I think, you know, for agriculture, particularly soybeans, for example, it was not it was not helpful. But we are we are a manufacturing state. And I think one of the things that we learned, all of us who were governors at the time during COVID, is that the supply chains, we got to make more.

36:17Abbas Araghchi:We're not we're broken. We have to make more things back here in the United States. But I think that's a general feeling of the public. So I think as a manufacturing state, we're seeing some new investment coming in. It's hard to tell sometimes. Do you attribute it to the fact that they now have to be investing more and don't want to have the tariffs or not? But my feeling is that we're getting a lot that's coming in, frankly, because of those tariffs. Margaret, my hope is that this decision stops the chaos and how these tariffs are being implemented, because business needs stability. Trade needs stability.

36:52Abbas Araghchi:And if a president can wield this authority that he was trying to, then you see the chaos we've seen where we had first across the board, then reciprocal tariffs, then industry specific tariffs. Then we had tariffs on a on a country for non economic reasons. What this should say is the president has to go to Congress. We have former members of Congress here and actually work it through in a thoughtful way. And what I'd like to see is I do think there are ways that the president can work around this and get where he wants to go on tariffs. I'm hoping, though, that the approach will be what about his tariff policy before worked, you know, in the manufacturing arena, for instance.

37:34Margaret Brennan:But where did it not work? And be very careful when you're looking at what impact it has on small businesses and agriculture. So I hope whatever comes next is more thoughtful. I want to ask you about another big issue many of you are facing, and that is how to deal with immigration and immigration policy as it affects your states. Governor Kelly, you're a Democrat, but you did sign a bill to get state law enforcement to work with federal authorities when it comes to immigration enforcement. And one of the complaints is often that having local authorities involved is a drain on their resources or it's a distraction for them.

38:12Margaret Brennan:Why isn't that the case in your state? Oh, I didn't say it wasn't. You think that cooperation is a drain on locals?

38:22Abbas Araghchi:I think when ICE comes into your state that it creates some problems and creates some problems for your local law enforcement because it's sort of a who's on first, who's in charge here. And I think that's been a problem. My approach has always been, you know, when we work with the federal government on anything, whether it's disaster relief or with our National Guard, you know, we look for ways to cooperate and partner. That's what we want to see, you know, if they're going to come in and try to do enforcement, enforcement, immigration enforcement in our state.

39:02Margaret Brennan:Governor Beshear, in your state, the Republican legislators want to pass a bill to force the state to work with ICE, as I understand it. You're not a fan of this idea.

39:13Abbas Araghchi:We'll see what happens in my state legislature, because at the end of, I think, last week, two of our Republican senators got up on the Senate floor and talked about how they thought this immigration enforcement had gone too far. For me, I believe that border security is national security, and we needed to tighten our borders. We also have to enforce our laws as a nation, but how we do it shows our humanity or our lack thereof. Shackling people's legs, putting them in cages that we would not put animals in is wrong. Where have you seen that? Well, you see it in the pictures coming out of the Alligator Alcatraz or other facilities.

39:47Abbas Araghchi:We read about kids getting sick and not getting the health care they need in the Texas facility. But the tactics of ICE show that there is a significant training problem, far too aggressive. And there is now an American body count. They believe they can go into an American citizen's home with just an administrative warrant. They cannot. So I've called for the retraining of all ICE agents. And in the meantime, if they think there's a violent criminal in Kentucky illegally, send us his or her name. We'll go get them.

40:16Margaret Brennan:You're talking there about administrative versus judicial warrants and the ability to enter. Do you then appreciate what's happening here in Washington with Democrats cutting off some of that short term funding for homeland security on that issue, along with others?

40:31Abbas Araghchi:I do. And I wish we didn't have to be at this point, but we have an American body count. We have at least two ICE agents that are being investigated for perjury. We have others, Americans that have been injured or hurt that shouldn't have been. I was the top law enforcement official in Kentucky. I've never seen a law enforcement agency, state, local or federal, act with the same tactics that ICE does. And these are on our streets. These are in our cities.

40:55Margaret Brennan:They would argue that the amount of immigration was at such unprecedented levels that new operational things had to be adapted. That's what the administration argues, right? That they have to do the tough business now. You're not buying it.

41:11Abbas Araghchi:Watch the videos. This is not how law enforcement acts. This is not respecting our rights as Americans. It's wrong.

41:20Margaret Brennan:Governor DeWine, in Ohio, your state has been the focus of the Trump Vance campaign during 2024 and their administration now, particularly the Haitians that you have. Tens of thousands in the state of Ohio. You said this week ICE has not been clear on when they're going to surge to your state. Did you bring that up when you were at the White House?

41:44Abbas Araghchi:I did not. I really didn't have the opportunity to do that. Look, Margaret, my position has been very clear in regard to TPS for Haitians.

41:54Margaret Brennan:Temporary protected status. Yes. Which the president is trying to revoke right now.

41:58Abbas Araghchi:I think the policy to revoke that is wrong. I think there's a consensus in this country, as we all have said. Let's get rid of the violent offenders. Get them out of here. I think there's a consensus behind the need to do a good job on the border. And I think the president gets high marks for doing that on the on the border. But once you get beyond that, I don't think there's a consensus for taking people who are working, who are supporting their family. And we've kind of seen it in almost in a micro way with the Haitian community that's come into Springfield. Springfield is an industrial city, manufacturing city that was down.

42:37Abbas Araghchi:It has been coming back. And frankly, one of the reasons it's coming back is because of the Haitians who are working there. These are people who, if you talk to the employers, they were filling jobs that were not being able to be filled in any other way. So it's been a big boost to the economy. So if one day they know that TPS is taken away, no employer can hire them anymore. And so you have all these people who are unemployed. So I think the policy there is wrong. If I could just say this, I think that this is a real opportunity for the president in regard to immigration, probably after the election, after the election, because nothing's going to get done before the midterms of 2026.

43:18Margaret Brennan:That's right.

43:18Abbas Araghchi:I think the president has a chance to do something no president has done for four decades. If you if you would take that opportunity. And I think after the election, he'll have a chance.

43:27Margaret Brennan:Governor Braun, Indiana also had exceptionally high levels of immigration in recent years. when we check the data, according to the Census Bureau, nearly 10 percent of your labor force are immigrants. What are the president's policies doing? Are you having a similar experience to Governor DeWine?

43:44Christine Lagarde:So Indiana, among the pure states, has the lowest unemployment rate. And we've got the highest economic growth rate, too. That's due to certain policies. But let's get back to the border. It was the same legislative template under the prior administration that encouraged tens of millions to come into the country. So just like when we were talking about the trade issues, go back to the source of why it occurred. Here, it was bad policy calculated, I think, in a very political way to maybe think it's going to benefit you down the road electorally. Put that aside. It's a whole other issue.

44:20Margaret Brennan:I think though just to be clear here you're not talking about illegal people who cannot vote no

44:26Christine Lagarde:I'm talking about how the census is determined who how your congressional districts are put together all I can tell you it was a mess in those four years in the same legislative template was in place during the Biden administration that the Trump administration is used I think everybody agrees that we've got to have border security and what we're hearing here is that immigration is definitely important, legal immigration. And the country was built upon immigrants. And when you're in a state like ours, where you're constantly looking for workforce, you need to do it. There was even a conversation in an executive session at the NGA about governors getting more involved in work permits and bringing people in coordinated.

45:11Christine Lagarde:I think that's a good idea.

45:13Margaret Brennan:But just to put a button on it, because I don't want us to speak past each other. What Governor DeWine was talking about was legal immigration and people with legal status, temporary protected status, not people who were. No, I know that.

45:26Christine Lagarde:And I think we all agree on legal immigration. All I'm citing.

45:30Margaret Brennan:But you would like to keep that temporary protected status.

45:35Christine Lagarde:If that was something that was aimed at a particular workforce need. Yes, it occurred. So I think you have to respect it. But I think it was all part of a really kind of chaotic approach that allowed a lot of illegal immigration to come across. That's what we're dealing now with ICE enforcement. And I'll agree, too, that's got to be done in a way that has humanity to it.

45:59Margaret Brennan:You can catch our full conversation with the governors on our website and our YouTube page. We'll be back in a moment. Some breaking news now. The U.S. Olympic men's hockey team bested Canada in overtime 2-1 to claim the gold medal for the first time in that event since 1980. That's it for us today. Thank you all for watching. Until next week, for Face the Nation, I'm Margaret Brennan. Today's guests were Iranian Foreign Minister Abbas Aragji, U.S. Trade Representative Ambassador Jameson Greer, European Central Bank President Christine Lagarde, Kansas Democratic Governor Laura Kelly, Kentucky Democratic Governor Andy Beshear, Indiana Republican Governor Mike Braun, and Ohio Republican Governor Mike DeWine.

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