Tom Homan, House Minority Leader Hakeem Jeffries, Sen. Thom Tillis

15:59Hakeem Jeffries:And we, of course, this past week reported that about 14 percent of those detained had violent criminal records. About 60 percent of them were wanted on criminal records overall. But it was that 14 percent violent criminals. Again, I just it sounds like this is going to go on a while because Tom Homan wasn't terribly flexible on anything, especially on the issue of warrants and masks. You're not ceding any ground. So there's a few things coming up here. For example, State of the Union is scheduled for a week from Tuesday. Should it be held if the Department of Homeland Security is shut down?

16:33Tom Homan:Well, we'll cross that bridge when we get to it. It's certainly in my hope. Sounds like you're going to get to it, though. I mean, in advance of it. Well, here's the thing. The administration and Republicans have made a clear decision that they would rather shut down FEMA, shut down the Coast Guard and shut down TSA than enact the type of dramatic reforms necessary so that ICE and other DHS law enforcement agencies are conducting themselves, like every other law enforcement professional in the country. For instance, police officers don't use masks. County sheriffs don't use masks. State troopers don't use masks.

17:10Tom Homan:Why is it that ICE agents who are untrained are being unleashed on American communities with this type of lawlessness, violence, and brutality? Unacceptable, unconscionable, and it's un-American.

17:22Hakeem Jeffries:Yeah, and we went over this with Tom Holman a little earlier. Of course, they point out that assaults against ICE officers have gone up over 1 ,300 percent this past year from about 275 compared to 19 the year before. So there are some legitimate concerns about those agents being targeted. But your broader point about whether or not law enforcement should behave the same as other law enforcement is heard.

17:47Tom Homan:Yes, and we're going to continue, of course, to encourage the American people to exercise their constitutional rights, their freedom of assembly, and their freedom of speech, and their freedom of expression peacefully, as we saw overwhelmingly done in Minneapolis.

18:04Hakeem Jeffries:All right. Well, we'll stay tuned on the shutdown and the negotiations. And let me ask you a few other things while we have you. First of all, you're a member of the Gang of Eight who gets briefed on national security matters. The Pentagon is reportedly planning for the possibility of sustained weeks-long operations against Iran if diplomacy fails and the president opts to attack. What do you know about those plans, or what would you want to learn as a member of the Gang of Eight?

18:27Tom Homan:Well, the administration, as has been the case since the very beginning of this presidency, has been slow to provide information both to the Gang of Eight members of Congress, the legislative leadership, and the top Democrats and Republicans on the Intel Committee, and certainly hasn't provided a significant amount of information to Congress in general. These people within the administration, the extremists, they don't seem to believe that Congress is a separate and co-equal branch of government. We are. In fact, the power to declare war is exclusively given to Congress in Article I of the United States Constitution.

19:04Tom Homan:Now, the American people want Donald Trump and Republicans to actually keep their promise and focus on driving down the high cost of living and fixing our broken health care system. There was Donald Trump who promised, in fact, that costs would go down on day one. Costs haven't gone down. We're in the midst of an affordability crisis that hasn't been resolved. Perhaps the president should focus on making life better for the American people, period, full stop.

19:31Hakeem Jeffries:I hear you on that. I want to remind our viewers of the current TikTok tight margins in the House. You've got to net at least three seats to take the majority at this point. I want to play for you part of what you had to say about the 2026 elections when you were asked this past Thursday. Take a listen.

19:47Tom Homan:We only need to net three. It's happening. Democrats are going to take back control of the House. And the only question is, what's the margin?

19:57Hakeem Jeffries:Right now, the Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee considers 44 of the 435 seats in the House in play, including, you just added five new ones this past week. South Central Virginia, District in South Carolina, Southern Minnesota, Central Colorado, and the at-large seat in Montana. Parts of the country where Democrats don't normally win elections, we should point out. So if the election were held today, at minimum, at minimum, how many seats do you see Democrats winning?

20:24Tom Homan:Well, if the election were held today, we're taking back control of the House of Representatives, and I'm not convinced that it would necessarily be close. But these are battles that are going to be waged district by district by district. We know we're winning seats now in deep red territory. We saw that in Miami in December, where we won the mayor's race for the first time in 30 years by 20 points. And then in January, of course, we flipped a seat in the Texas state Senate that Donald Trump had just won by 17 points. The Democratic candidate won it by 14. That was a 31 point over performance.

21:00Tom Homan:And then just last weekend in Louisiana, we flipped the House seat that Trump had won by 14. We won that or 13. So you won that by 24 points. That was a 37 point over performance. my point is we're winning across the country in blue states and purple states and red states because the american people know we're the only ones focused on driving down the high cost of living fixing our broken health care system and making sure that immigration enforcement

21:26Hakeem Jeffries:is fair and just you've got to get at least three twenty to twenty five seats all forty four seats what do you think right now give me a number well i'm not in the prediction business i'm in the

21:37Tom Homan:Let's win on behalf of the American people so we can end this national nightmare business.

21:43Hakeem Jeffries:All right. Leader Jeffries, to be continued on the shutdown and on the midterms. We appreciate you spending some time with us this morning. We'll talk to you soon. And we'll be right back with a lot more Face the Nation. Stay with us. Tonight, Maryland Governor Wes Moore joins Nora O'Donnell to kick off our new CBS News Town Hall series, Things That Matter. Here's a preview.

22:00Margaret Brennan:President Donald Trump won the presidency in 2024, promising this immigration crackdown that we are witnessing. The Biden administration allowed over four million migrants into the country through the southern border during his term in office. Are Democrats to blame for this immigration crisis that we're witnessing?

22:20Tom Homan:Well, I definitely think that the former president did not have this right. You do? Oh, yes. And we needed to do more. that I don't think anyone can argue that we had the system worked out under President Biden, that immigration was worked out. But actually, I would argue that we have not had the system worked out amongst multiple administrations. Immigration has been an issue that we as a country have punted on for a very long time because the people who can uniquely fix immigration is Congress. And this is the frustrating thing for me with this Congress right now, where I feel we're just watching a continued abdication of responsibility, where if the speaker, the ironic thing is right now, the president has, then the president's party has the presidency, the House, and the Senate.

23:13Tom Homan:If the president wanted immigration reform done right now, do you know what he could do? He would call up the speaker of the House and he said, I need a bill on my desk by next week. And do you know what will be on his desk next week? A comprehensive immigration bill reform. Because they have the votes.

23:30Hakeem Jeffries:And that's not happening. The full conversation airs tonight at 8 p.m. Eastern, 7 Central, and will also stream on Paramount+. We'll be right back with a lot more Face the Nation. Stay with us.

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24:32Hakeem Jeffries:Welcome back to Face the Nation. We turn now to the top Democrat on the House Oversight Committee, California Congressman Robert Garcia, who joins us this morning from Long Beach, where he used to be the mayor. Congressman, good to see you. Thank you for being with us. Sure thing. Thank you. I want to start real quick because you are on the committee that essentially has oversight of the entire government. You're Democrats. You don't have control of the panel. You've held some unofficial hearings on ICE operations nationwide. I'm curious if you're talking to the Republicans at all about doing anything to investigate allegations of wrongdoing of ICE and the Border Patrol as they continue to carry out immigration enforcement operations.

25:13Margaret Brennan:Look, I think it's just been very recently. We actually see more and more Republicans actually speak out and begin to show some level of courage. ICBP DHS is completely out of control. We have heard not just in hearings, but certainly in looking at what's happening across this country and folks talking and telling their stories. We're talking about U.S. citizens that are being shot. We're talking about U.S. veterans that are being detained for no reason. children that are being deported as young as four or five years old, sending to detention in other cases, as we've seen. And so I think you're beginning to see some Republicans actually show concern.

25:48Margaret Brennan:But right now, DHS is causing terror across this country. And Donald Trump has turned, not just DHS, but ICE specifically, which we now know is larger than it's ever been, into his own personal police force.

26:01Hakeem Jeffries:But you know of no Republican committee chairman currently planning to investigate all these allegations, right? Is that what you're saying?

26:07Margaret Brennan:Oh, and there's no chairman out there that have come out publicly. Now, you begin to hear some Republicans show some concern, but they need to show more courage. I mean, Mike Johnson, at the end of the day, does whatever Donald Trump wants him to do.

26:19Hakeem Jeffries:Yeah.

26:20Margaret Brennan:And Republicans need to go out there and start speaking the truth of what's happening on the street.

26:23Hakeem Jeffries:So the big reason I wanted to speak with you this morning is, of course, you're now trying to conduct a pretty aggressive review of the Epstein documents as they've now been released by the Justice Department. There have been about three and a half million documents released and based on a CBS News review, so far there doesn't appear to be enough evidence to criminally charge anyone else. Saturday night, the Department of Justice released this legally required list of all government officials and politically exposed persons in the Epstein files. More than 300 names on the list, which they acknowledge, are people who are here listed in a wide variety of contexts.

26:57Hakeem Jeffries:DOJ says their doing is asked because it was part of the law. It lists everyone from Beyonce to Joe Biden, George W. Bush, Princess Diana, Michael Jackson, Barack Obama, Mike Pence, the Trumps, Mark Zuckerberg, among others, because they came up in one way or another in the documents. A few questions. Why was this asked for? And are you aware yet of any names being not on this list that should be on the list?

27:26Margaret Brennan:Well, we're reviewing that list, of course, but let's be really clear. This is a massive cover-up being led by the White House and the DOJ. The fact that 50%, half of the Epstein files, have not been released to the public and to the Congress. And of those that have been released, the actual files that have been out in the public or that we've seen, they're overly redacted. Many of the survivors and victims, their names are actually appearing. So there's no protection for the survivors. Yet the names of billionaires, the names of folks that could be co-conspirators, that helped fund Jeffrey Epstein, that could have actually been involved in the terror and rape, as we know, abuse of women and children.

28:04Margaret Brennan:Some of those names continue to be redacted and protected. Why won't the DOJ actually follow the law, not just of what was passed by Congress, but the subpoena that was put in place by the Oversight Committee during the summer? And so this continues to be a cover-up. And the American public understand that they continue to hide and protect and deflect. Why does Donald Trump, the president, continue to, in our opinion, to protect these powerful men? We're not going to stop until we get justice for the survivors.

28:32Hakeem Jeffries:The Justice Department says they've released everything they can, and the rest are protected by attorney privilege, contain victim information, or contain child sexual assault material. I know there's been a back and forth in recent days about a handful of names that were redacted, should have been unredacted. It turns out they didn't have anything to do with it. They just happened to be in an event or in a photo with Jeffrey Epstein, basically. But I want to ask you about your investigation, a congressional investigation. You told the attorney general on Friday it would take more than seven years for members to check the redactions on those three million pages, which sounds unrealistic, but is it your intent to review all of those documents to see what other information is there, what other names are either mentioned or missing?

29:16Margaret Brennan:Absolutely. Look, we have a great team on the committee that's reviewing right now every single document, going through all the files that are available to the public, looking at redactions, trying to understand and piecing together an investigation. And it's not just the documents. We're interviewing survivors. We're talking to key witnesses. We're going to be holding hearings in the future as well. So all of that is part of this. But at the end of the day, they have not given us all the documents. So until we actually get the full set of files, this is not going to be a complete investigation.

29:46Margaret Brennan:And the cover-up that's being led by the White House and Pan Bondi is continuing. And the American public see this. And so they need to release all of the files. Well, working with what you've got so far, what are you looking for specifically?

29:59Hakeem Jeffries:Are there names? Are there events? Are there situations to clarify that they've been released or that they're out there? What is it you're looking for?

30:08Margaret Brennan:Look, there's a variety of things. Number one is we want to ensure that all the names of the men that are co-conspirators, those that themselves terrorized and brutalized women and children, those people need to be exposed. That work has begun. An additional piece of this is who is financing Jeffrey Epstein. So, for example, this upcoming week, we'll be interviewing Les Wexner, who is likely have been the single largest benefactor and providing financial support to Jeffrey Epstein. Where did he get all of his money and for what? And where was that money going? That is another critical part of this investigation.

30:45Margaret Brennan:We've subpoenaed also the bank records. So we're going through all those, and that information is critical to our investigation. And then, of course, is who was involved in the trafficking of girls and women? It wasn't just Ghislaine Maxwell. Why were there so many women being attacked in places across the country, whether it was New York, but also Palm Beach? You look at Mar-a-Lago. Why was Mar-a-Lago a location where women continue to be trafficked from? So these are questions that we need to ask. We have questions for President Trump. And the broader, I think the broader issue here is why wasn't this investigated when these accusations and these stories actually were heard by the FBI years ago?

31:25Margaret Brennan:Where was the investigation? Where was the DOJ? And this, by the way, is an issue not just in Republican administrations, but also ones led by Democrats. We have to get answers.

31:35Hakeem Jeffries:You mentioned Wexler, who you're interviewing this coming week. Have you heard back yet from the man formerly known as Prince Andrew?

31:43Margaret Brennan:We have not. We absolutely have sent letters. We want to actually talk to Prince Andrew. And it's not just Prince Andrew, former Prince Andrew. Right. I mean, what's happening right now over in the U.K. is pretty stunning. And it's actually a show of what happens when the government listens to the public. There are actually things happening to those who have been involved. That example that's happening over there in other parts of the world needs to happen in our country. And the fact that the White House continues to cover up for these files and for these men, I think is shameful. Release all the files today.

32:16Margaret Brennan:And the last thing, they keep claiming that, oh, well, there is a, you know, there's a maternity client privilege. There's interagency communication we can't put out to the public. Look, that might be true in the Epstein Transparency Act, but it's not true in the subpoena that asked for the exact same documents that was passed last July and August. And so there is no reason why Congress shouldn't have all of the documents in front of us right now.

32:39Hakeem Jeffries:Let me ask you about a few more specific names. I've heard about the cover up that you're alleging by the White House. Let's work with some of these names. Peter Mandelson, the former British ambassador to the U.S. You heard back from him yet?

32:50Margaret Brennan:We have not. We absolutely want to talk to him. Commerce Secretary Howard Lutnick.

32:53Hakeem Jeffries:He had said in an interview last year he hadn't seen Howard Lutnick in years. Turns out he went to see his island off the U.S. Virgin Islands with his family back in 2012, and he had business interests with him in 2014. Are you working with Republican Chairman Jim Comer to bring Howard Lutnick in for questioning?

33:09Margaret Brennan:We have asked Jim and Comer to bring in Howard Lutnick, and we have yet had no response. Not only did he visit the island, he had tons of communication with Jeffrey Epstein. after it was already known that Jeffrey Epstein was essentially convicted for preying on children. So it is shameful that he's actually in our government. He should not be the Commerce Secretary. He should come talk to the Oversight Committee.

33:30Hakeem Jeffries:The Oversight Committee also voted last month to hold Bill and Hillary Clinton in contempt of Congress for failing to show up for similar testimony. They're now scheduled to appear later this month for closed-door testimony. What's the point of having them come in?

33:44Margaret Brennan:Look, we've said from day one that we're willing to talk to anybody, whether they're Republicans or Democrats, whoever they are, how powerful they are, if you have information about Jeffrey Epstein, we want to talk to you. We've been saying that about President Clinton for a while. I'm glad that he's coming in. Look, the one thing I'll say, I think both President Clinton and Secretary Clinton have also added that they would like those hearings to be public. That's something that we absolutely support. We have questions for President Clinton. We'll be asking those in New York in the weeks ahead, as you know.

34:12Margaret Brennan:But there's a lot of people that we need to speak with. And the more that we can have these conversations in public, I think it's better for the American people. It's what they want to see. And they want to understand what was the truth about Epstein, who he knew, where he got his money from, and why there's been a constant focus on covering up his crimes by so many in government.

34:34Hakeem Jeffries:Congressman Robert Garcia, the top Democrat on the House Oversight Committee, thank you for spending part of Sunday with us. We appreciate it. And we'll be right back. Secretary of State Marco Rubio left the annual Munich Security Conference after offering some reassurance to European allies wary of the Trump administration's posture on NATO, but remained firm on the administration's ambitions to reshape the transatlantic alliance. North Carolina Republican Senator Tom Tillis was among the group of American lawmakers attending the conference. We spoke with him Friday and began by asking whether the U.S.

35:08Hakeem Jeffries:is still a reliable partner for Europe.

35:10Margaret Brennan:Well, you know, in some ways, I hope that we're going to enter an era where our reliance on Europe is improved. Look, I've got a challenge with some of the things coming out of the White House, but a lot of that frustration comes from a$2 trillion shortfall in investing in our mutual defense by far too many NATO allies. Now, they're making right now, but you have to give the administration and the president some latitude to point to the fact that a$2 trillion shortfall over two decades, what has that done to our readiness? What has that done to our innovation? What's that done to our military industrial base and manufacturing capacity?

35:51Margaret Brennan:We could be scaling up latent capabilities that would have been serving that$2 trillion to better serve Ukraine and better modernize their own weapons. So let's make sure that people look at this with balance and understand that a part of the reason why we are where we are is because we had that deficit in the 20 years, in the first 20 years of this century. Now, the NATO alliance is the most important alliance in the history of mankind. And the Article I branch, Congress, believes that. And they believe it in large numbers. So we're going to commit, I'm here in Munich to basically remind everybody that we have three co-equal branches of government.

36:28Margaret Brennan:The president is trying to get our NATO allies to perform more strongly and have some level of independence. But the Congress has their back.

36:35Hakeem Jeffries:Yeah. So when the defense secretary sends the Pentagon's number three to a NATO defense meeting this week and tells the rest of the alliance the U.S.'s support for NATO will continue, but quote, in a more limited and focused fashion. Is that the message that Europe should be receiving right now? Is that the way the administration should approach it?

36:56Margaret Brennan:I would not have used those words. I think what we want to do is be stronger and represent the deterrent capabilities of our alliance. The United States could possibly go it alone, but the reality is our alliance is what makes us the world's superpower and what keeps this world safer. We're going to have malign actors. We've had them throughout history. We will continue to. Putin is a liar and a murderer. He should be expelled from Ukraine. I'll accept a peace agreement if Vladimir Zelensky wants one. But we need to make sure that our adversaries, unless they change profoundly, are viewed as adversaries, that we have to coexist with but not appease.

37:36Margaret Brennan:At the same time, Europe needs to step up, not let this be episodic that they're now starting to contribute to their mutual defense, their own capabilities, incidentally. It's not like they're writing a check and sending it to the U.S. This is building up their capabilities, their interoperability, their ability to work with NATO allies if a conflict occurs. So, you know, it's an emotional time. I've got a philosophy that nothing is ever as good as bad as it seems. I think people coming to Munich thinking that this is the end of NATO are being a bit alarmist and that we just need to get things right and learn from the past mistakes of our allies or learn from the past mistakes and people have come up short.

38:12Margaret Brennan:But the rhetoric about NATO somehow being a second tier sort of alliance going forward is clearly being spoken by somebody who doesn't really understand the brilliance and the power of the NATO alliance.

38:24Hakeem Jeffries:On NATO, one of the things the alliance announced in recent days is this plan for a new Arctic sentry mission to strengthen security across the Arctic region. That decision, of course, comes in the wake of the president in the last few weeks, urging NATO to do more for Arctic security, dropping his threats of military invasion of Greenland. Is this new operation exactly what you're talking about, what you want to see the alliance doing? And is it also the answer to the president's concerns about Greenland?

38:50Margaret Brennan:Well, you know, we talked in Davos. The reality is, to me, it was irresponsible to go anywhere other than figuring out how we modernized the 1951 agreement, where Greenland and Denmark agreed to more or less give us unfettered access in Greenland to project power in the Arctic. So now that the temperatures have cooled, show a little bit of respect to Denmark and to Greenland. Figure out what part of Greenland. We need to upfit our space base, the only instance of U.S. presence in Greenland now to the north. Take a look at a base that they offered to us for a dollar and come up with a fiscally sound, sustainable way to project power in the east by working with Canada and their icebreakers, which are necessary for us to navigate there, working with Denmark and our Scandinavian and Arctic allies to really project the kind of power we need to deter China and Russia.

39:45Hakeem Jeffries:The German chancellor at the start of this conference suggested that the world order as we know it is over. I know you were talking about hyperbole there at the start of this. Would you agree, though, with the chancellor that things are changing that rapidly?

39:59Margaret Brennan:Only if the chancellor allows it to. Look, if the NATO countries who came up short for decades would just admit that that was a mistake and then double their redouble their efforts. I think that this goes just like the hyperbolic language around Greenland is now almost, it's unbelievable. That was only three weeks ago, but it's almost in the distant past. I think we have to look ahead and recognize that the American people, the American Congress, and I believe the administration is behind it. But they're not wrong to point out the deficiencies of the past. Look, I've been in meetings where people talk about some of our social programs and now we should really step up with the European world.

40:41Margaret Brennan:And then at the same time, they're funding some of those programs at the expense of their own defense. So let's just have an honest discussion with family members and get the family right.

40:50Hakeem Jeffries:Let's work through a few other issues here. European leaders this week also suggested that they're not taking retaliatory tariffs off the table. Back here at home, the House voted to essentially reject the president's tariffs on Canada after a bunch of Republicans joins with Democrats to make that happen in the House. If that ever comes up in the Senate, are you someone who would agree with that, that the tariffs against Canada should be stripped away?

41:13Margaret Brennan:Well, I've looked at what I think we need to do is get the USMCA modernization, the agreement on the table and address that in the context of strengthening our relationship with Canada and Mexico. Look, we're a very important trading block and we should build on our successes. As I'm sure you know, a lot of the tariffs, there's a lot of exemptions because of the existence of USMCA. I think we ought to get in a room and sort them out. I've expressed publicly concerns with a lot of the tariffs that were imposed. I still, to this day, can't figure out why we have a 50 % tariff on Brazil when we have a trade surplus with Brazil.

41:51Margaret Brennan:Those sorts of things are irrational to me. In other cases, I can justify it based on past behaviors of countries that we have a deficit with. But we need to be surgical and not use a blunt force object to negotiate trade relationships, particularly with China and Mexico. I'm sorry, with Canada and Mexico.

42:07Hakeem Jeffries:Should your party be distancing itself more from the president, though, on tariffs, especially the closer it gets to November when the American public is not necessarily a fan of these moves?

42:15Margaret Brennan:See, I don't think it's a matter of distancing ourselves. That's what's wrong with Washington. We've gotten into this mode now to where we have some sort of a loyalty or fealty test because we either disagree. Oftentimes, it's not even the what, it's the how. I do think the what of holding countries that we have had chronic trade deficits with accountable is necessary. And if tariffs are required to get their attention, fine. But the how is a very surgical approach, not a blanket approach, not one that actually creates froth and uncertainty because that's not good for business. And the U.S., if anything else, is really good when we're at our best on certainty.

42:52Hakeem Jeffries:You reiterated this week you're going to block any confirmation hearings for a new Federal Reserve chairman or board member until the Justice Department's investigation of Jerome Powell is, as you put it, resolved. But will there be confirmation hearings for Kevin Walsh, even if this DOJ investigation into Powell is continuing?

43:10Margaret Brennan:Well, let's make the distinction between a confirmation hearing and then a confirmation markup. Mr. Walsh is going to have to decide whether or not he wants to go through with this, because as I'm sure you know, once the nominee is put forward, there are certain restrictions on what he can do in his business life. But I've tried to make it very clear that I have no intention of supporting any confirmation of any Fed board member, chair or otherwise, to fill the Coogler seat, for example, until this is resolved. I think we had a young U.S. attorney with a dream trying to get the president's attention, not even consulting with the administration and big DOJ on something that maybe they thought they'd get brownie points for.

43:55Margaret Brennan:It's not cute. And if this is only about two minutes of discussion that came before Chair Powell, that prosecutor should listen to the seven members, Republican members, who said they didn't see any criminal intent or activity. And more importantly, the prosecutor should understand that the protocol normally would be a referral from the chair or a member of the committee to say we think a crime was committed here. We've got a crime scene where seven Republican members say no crime was committed. How hard is that to understand?

44:26Hakeem Jeffries:But when the Treasury Secretary said Friday there's a deal to at least hold confirmation hearings for Kevin Warsh to serve as the next chairman of the Federal Reserve, is he misguided on that?

44:35Margaret Brennan:Well, it's not a deal. That's a decision that the chair makes unilaterally in his capacity as chair. The decision I get to make is whether or not I allow markup. And if I do allow markup, how I vote. And I'm saying that until the matter is solved, I'm a no.

44:51Hakeem Jeffries:Understood. And when you say resolved, when you want this investigation resolved, does that mean everything dropped by the Justice Department and other entities?

44:58Margaret Brennan:Well, keep in mind, everything is an investigation about two minutes of commentary. Right. Even for this guy, that's not hard to figure out.

45:08Hakeem Jeffries:You have been quite critical of the administration on a suite of issues, whether it's tariffs, how it's engaging Europe, as you mentioned earlier, concerns about homeland security and whatnot. And you've said that it runs the risk of hurting your party going into November. So I'm curious if the elections were held today, would Republicans hold on to the House and the Senate?

45:28Margaret Brennan:I think we hold on to the Senate. I have questions about the House, and some of that comes from what I believe may have been a little bit of overreach with respect to redistricting. Plus, you have the historic challenge of a midterm election after presidential election, a lot of complexities in it. But, you know, we've got work to do. And, again, my beef almost always relates to what I consider to be how things are being done. And I think the president has some advisors around him. You've heard me talk about Stephen Miller. you know my opinion about Kristi Noem. These are people that don't look around corners and are not taking care of this president's legacy, and I intend to.

46:08Margaret Brennan:And if I have to speak bluntly, that's what I'm going to do in my remaining time in the Senate.

46:12Hakeem Jeffries:Well, we appreciate you speaking bluntly with us this morning from the Munich Security Conference. Senator Tillis, thank you for your time. Thank you. And we'll be right back. That's it for us today. Thank you for watching. Margaret, we'll be back next week. Until then, for Face the Nation, I'm Ed O 'Keefe. Today's guests were White House Borders Art Tom Homan, House Minority Leader Hakeem Jeffries, California Democratic Congressman Robert Garcia, and North Carolina Republican Senator Tom Tillis. The senior executive producer of Face the Nation is Mary Haggard Laird. The executive producer of Face the Nation is Ann Hsu.

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