In short
Fantasy football offseason discussion focused on “biggest draft fallers” (players whose ADP could drop after offseason/depth-chart changes), plus a news roundup (franchise tags, contract moves, injuries/legal headlines) and a mailbag covering dynasty/keeper strategy and player ceilings.
Guests
No guest interviewees. Hosts are Andy Holloway, Jason Moore, and Mike Wright (studio renovations mentioned; Jason absent for parts).
Key claims
- Isaiah Pacheco could fall sharply in ADP if Kansas City replaces him after contract/free-agent uncertainty.
- Brian Thomas Jr. is a likely draft faller: rookie dominance may not repeat due to Parker Washington’s emergence, Jacoby Myers’ extension, and Travis Hunter’s expanded role.
- Alvin Kamara ADP could drop (best-ball ADP around round 13) as a replacement is expected.
- Kamara, Rico Dowdle/Carolina RB situation, and Chuba Hubbard’s later-round ADP are highlighted as volatile.
Notable examples
- Franchise tags: George Pickens (Cowboys), Kyle Pitts (Falcons), Breece Hall (Jets), Kenneth Walker (Seahawks discussed).
- Cowboys sign Javante Williams to a 3-year, $24M deal.
- Mailbag: Kyler Murray dynasty advice (hold due to depressed value); Cam Scataboo ceiling projected top-12-ish (10–15 range).
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Chapters
Tap a time to open that second in VOStudio Renovations and Breaks
0:30 to 0:43
The hosts discuss studio renovations and their recent break.
“Trex marine grade decking is 100 % submersible.”
Studio Renovations and Breaks
1:09 to 2:08
The hosts discuss studio renovations and their recent break.
“We're just a couple of guys doing a show.”
Ultimate Draft Kit Announcement
2:08 to 3:22
The hosts talk about the launch of the Ultimate Draft Kit and its features.
“We would be remiss if we didn't tell you the ultimate draft kit.”
Biggest Draft Fallers Discussion
3:22 to 5:38
Exploring players who may have a significant drop in their draft positions.
“If you're already an ultimate foot clan member, you're entered to win.”
Brian Thomas Jr. and Travis Hunter
5:38 to 9:38
Analyzing Brian Thomas Jr.'s potential drop and his team's dynamics.
“He was a fifth-round pick last year, and he will be completely replaced on the Kansas City Chiefs.”
Kamara and Panthers Running Back Situation
9:38 to 11:59
Discussion on Alvin Kamara's future and the Panthers' running back situation.
“in there as well, who right now, he was a fourth round pick last year.”
NFL Combine and Franchise Tag Updates
11:59 to 14:00
Updates on the upcoming NFL Combine and franchise tag news.
“And the ultimate draft kit, keep you apprised of everything.”
Franchise Tag News and Player Insights
14:00 to 18:01
Discussion of franchise tags and player expectations, focusing on Kyle Pitts and his potential impact on the Falcons' offense.
“I'm hopeful in terms of I want it to work because I want every quarterback to work.”
Brees Hall's Future and Franchise Tag Implications
18:01 to 20:08
Analysis of Brees Hall's situation, concerns about franchise tags, and their impact on players' careers.
“I mean, like if he signs and plays on the franchise tag, yes, we're talking a lot of money for him, but then nothing guaranteed for the future.”
Player Releases and Injury Updates
20:08 to 24:44
Updates on player releases, injuries, and the implications for team dynamics and individual players.
“And, you know, he had gone through catastrophic injuries multiple years in a row.”
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Mailbag: Dynasty Questions and Player Evaluations
25:08 to 28:00
Engagement with listeners' questions about Kyler Murray's future in Dynasty leagues and insights on player value.
“Oh, is there some - Crystals and - Up in the vortex?”
Kyler Murray's Future in Arizona
28:00 to 31:00
Learn about the current sentiment and potential outcomes for Kyler Murray's career.
“I think Kyler's in Arizona, and I think that J.J.”
Teams Moving from Worst to First
31:00 to 33:30
Explore which NFL teams may improve significantly in the coming season.
“McCarthy, it didn't immediately work fantasy-wise for him, but when you get competent quarterback play for Minnesota and the KOC offense, Carson Wentz, it was fine.”
Cam Scadaboo's Potential
33:30 to 36:00
Discuss the potential impact and ranking of Cam Scadaboo for next season.
“Like the Lions, it does feel like the layup, but it's like Chicago and Green Bay are legit teams.”
Fragrance Talk: The Bod Man
36:00 to 40:14
A humorous discussion about body sprays and their questionable effectiveness.
“Because ceiling, you're betting on a swing.”
Fragrance Talk: The Bod Man
40:18 to 41:33
A humorous discussion about body sprays and their questionable effectiveness.
“and be better at one thing, what would that be and what?”
Fragrance Discussion and Humor
42:00 to 43:51
The hosts engage in a light-hearted discussion about fragrances and personal insecurities.
“I hope every bottle is the same smell and they just name it different stuff.”
Analyzing Chargers' Offensive Weapons
43:51 to 45:57
The hosts discuss the potential of the Chargers' offensive weapons and rank the wide receivers.
“And you'll be able to buy autograph bottles of BOD by Al Borland on the shop tomorrow.”
Trading Cards and Fantasy Football
45:57 to 48:43
The hosts explore the similarities between card collecting and fantasy football, sharing personal stories.
“You're like, oh, and the public has shifted because there's a new hotness or there's a new shiny player that we're really interested in, and now I'm going to get value.”
Keep, Trade, Cut Strategy
48:43 to 50:29
The hosts give advice on which players to keep, trade, or cut, focusing on dynasty perspectives.
“My personal collection is Gridiron Marvel's cards.”
Youth Sports and Investment in Future
50:29 to 52:52
Discussion on the realities of youth sports and the implications of a recent signing of an 11-year-old in professional baseball.
“Kid sports have become super profitable, super hyper concentrated.”
Youth Sports and Investment in Future
55:20 to 55:41
Discussion on the realities of youth sports and the implications of a recent signing of an 11-year-old in professional baseball.
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Transcript
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0:51Welcome to the Fantasy Footballers Podcast. With your hosts, Andy Holloway, Jason Moore and Mike Wright.
1:08Welcome in.
1:18Tuesday. The end of February. What day is it? It's the 24th. It's the 24th. We're just a couple of guys doing a show. The Fantasy Footballers Podcast. Andy, Mike.
1:36The Fantasy Footballers:Cardboard Bear extraordinaire. Yes. It looks a little different in here, Mike, in the midst of some studio renovations. Yes. You, the listener at home, may not have fully realized. I mean, we said, hey, we're recording some stuff early because the three of us are going to take a break. And while that was going, the shows are still coming up. Yeah. But the crew around here, because we said get to work. We're out. No, physically get to work. Tools. And we got a little. Adhesives. We got some studio rentals going on. Yeah, we actually have a new back wall. The brick has been swapped out. We have new.
2:18The Fantasy Footballers:Go to the two shot. Handling behind Mike and I. Let him see. we have some new lighting what's this it is not a completed project by any stretch of the imagination that's why jason wouldn't show up he's like yeah if it's not completely ready for me i'm not setting foot into the office he is still in his trailer yes he's in his trailer and um he's in a bad mood because we're not done but we are working on it and the guys did a lot of hard work while we were gone i feel like i've been gone in eternity even though we had a show on thursday because i missed that show right um and then we took a week off and i purged my brain from football mostly um focused on current events like 90s basketball um but we're back in the building you do you love the jordan cards i do love 90s hoops yeah um but it is tuesday february 24th mike wright is here i'm andy holloway this is the fantasy Footballers podcast.
3:16The Fantasy Footballers:We would be remiss if we didn't tell you the ultimate draft kit. The Dynasty Pass is live right now. Yeah, and we got a deadline coming up. Combine. No. Oh, you're talking about for the promo. Yes. Yeah, I thought you were talking about the impending Combine, which we release a second update to the Dynasty Pass after the Combine, but no, it is the 24th of February, and if you don't pick it up by March 1st, you're going to miss out because you'll have a chance to win a listener Interleague spot to play with us in 2026. So, uh, ultimate draft kit.com. If you're already an ultimate foot clan member, you're entered to win.
3:57The Fantasy Footballers:If you've already picked it up, you're entered to win, but this is the lowest price you're going to get on the ultimate draft kit. The number one draft day tool, uh, all of the tools and resources, the dynasty pass, all that stuff, ultimate draft kit.com. And I would say if you're going to get it, you know, cause we know a lot of you, you wait a while. If you're going to get it, get it with a shot to be in the listener league i mean i would and that's ultimate draft kit.com all right we have a quick question today mike i say we do real quick um we need to be better on following up on these because we put out the call oh we do we put we put out we got the horn um i i think so there there we are ladies and gentlemen foot clan you did it the the fsga awards took place the best social media content which is completely a fan vote bang bang down baby took it down we are so back so thank you for uh taking the time to vote for us so we we did take home that award got us a nice little trophy when we appreciate it yeah no and we i think we also took home the best video show yep and we we once we won that we were like let's change it yeah yeah yeah yeah like let's change everything down uh all right we do have a quick question mike shall i proceed yes okay uh we wanted to ask the question right here right now late february which players do you estimate will have the biggest drop in average draft position this upcoming season which it's it's hard to predict because we don't know where free agency is going to land and where the draft's going to go but there are players that are subject to change.
5:31There's a couple freebies. I think Isaiah Pacheco is the big-time one. He was a fifth-round pick last year, and he will be completely replaced on the Kansas City Chiefs. Is he a free agent?
5:49The Fantasy Footballers:I think there was some news that broke about him a couple days ago as well. He will be replaced. He's played four years, so he will be looking for a new contract and I don't the way that that things have turned for him man he burned bright he burned real bright in those first two years and then just was never able to keep it going but I mean he will go from a fifth round pick to be basically undrafted because I can't imagine he's getting a free agent job yeah and I would I would say the the one that I went with it's the player I want to talk about because I think there was a point where I thought he'd be traded but with the recent news about Travis Hunter's role on the offense, I no longer believe that at all.
6:30The Fantasy Footballers:It's Brian Thomas Jr. who was a second round pick. He was a sensational rookie and you know, his underdog ADP right now is in the fifth round. I think it'll stay around there. I think there's great hesitation around Brian Thomas Jr. There should be. And it's just a strange thing when a player goes out and shows you what they were capable of doing as a rookie, putting up prolific numbers, certainly acting the part of a true alpha. And then to what happened this year, the emergence of Parker Washington, the trade and extension for Jacoby Myers, the drafting of Travis Hunter. We are all going to have to adjust our expectations for Brian Thomas Jr.
7:10The Fantasy Footballers:There may be dominant games. I don't think there'll be dominant seasons anymore in the same tier that he did as a rookie. And to me, that's a weird thing when your rookie season may be the best one you have for your entire career. but it feels like that for Brian Thomas Jr. and so I don't think he's going to be traded and the news recently has been that Travis Hunter is going to be a full-time corner, part-time offensive wide receiver which I mean that gives Brian Thomas Jr. some stability The Travis Hunter thing is so weird. I don't know if there was ever thinking back could it really fully work?
7:48They traded a lot to go get Travis Hunter, who, great player. I think he can be excellent at whatever position they specialize him in. But the allure of the unicorn who completely is like, oh, can he play two full-time starter positions for us? I don't know. I don't know if that's ever going to come to pass. And trading all that to move up to number two for a DB. It's the trade that does it because it's like if you just had the pick and you draft a prolific cornerback, I'm fine with that.
8:20The Fantasy Footballers:And you get some offensive reps from that corner. I mean, that's cool. But it's the trade that you traded for someone that you felt like you needed to be full-time both ways. Yeah. And I don't think it's – it doesn't sound like that's going to happen. I just wonder, though. Like, I just wonder how alternate history plays out if he doesn't get hurt. He had a 100-yard, like, 10-catch, whatever it was, 14-target game. I don't remember the exact numbers but it was like that was the moment I traded for him in a fantasy league it was there was a lot of garbage in there there was I'm just saying these were bloated numbers of a team that was down multiple scores but it was post by and it was like evidence that they had worked him into the offense I think it was right before the bye oh you're right because he got hurt on the bye yeah I think he had the big game and then you're like maybe they do even more with the bye yes all that being said it's like after that point in time they extended Jacoby Myers right after that point in time Parker Washington has a breakout due to opportunity which shows them what they have in him so I guess I just wonder what would have happened sure and obviously an injury changes everything that's the luxury of of Travis Hunter is it's like if Parker Washington goes down and Brian Thomas goes down you can play him more yes you can play him more on the offensive side so that that's kind of the name for me outside of Pacheco Mike what is there another name that you think is really vulnerable uh well I mean I said there's a couple freebies I'll throw Kamara in there as well, who right now, he was a fourth round pick last year.
9:47Right now in best ball, he is going in the 13th round, as we all expect. We expect a replacement of some sort for Kamara as he fades off or rides off into the sunset. I'm not going to call fade. Alvin Kamara ruled. Alvin Kamara had a great career. All great things must come to an end. Yeah, but they have to, especially at the running back position. I wonder the Panther situation at running back is going to be very interesting. We all expect Rico to at least – I expect Rico to leave. Will he get the bag that he wants? I don't think he will ever be content in this world. I really don't. Rico will always accurately think he's – Well, he'll be content if he gets paid, but I don't know that the bag nor the starting role is out there for him.
10:41But I think at this point, no matter what, even if he goes and takes a timeshare backup position, it's not going to be with the Panthers. I think he's going to be too upset. And then you have what do the Panthers do of Chuba, who's still being paid very, very well. And then is Jonathan Brooks actually back after another ACL tear?
11:04The Fantasy Footballers:I won't be shocked if they take a running back. Oh, man. What a mess. In the middle to late rounds as well. What a mess. Well, they have Trevor Etienne as well. Sure. Who they drafted. So maybe they feel like they have enough. But it's like Chuba, who was a fourth rounder last year. Right now he's in the eighth. He's going to be – I think he'll be very interesting of like a guy in those later rounds. They're like, this is a starting running back for a team that really can get the run game going. like Chuba in the fourth was not super alluring to me last year of, I mean, I'm team Rico and it kind of just turned into a big mess for everybody, but Chuba in the eighth.
11:46The Fantasy Footballers:Yeah. Okay. Yeah. More interesting. Yeah. There'll be a lot of, uh, you know, we've got the combine coming up. We'll have the draft off free agency. Um, and, and a lot of these depth charts are going to shake out. Oh yes. And we update those as well. And the ultimate draft kit, keep you apprised of everything. let's catch up on some news. News and notes from around the league. All right, we just said it. The NFL Combine starts on Thursday, February 26th with those boring defensive linemen and linebackers. Yeah. And then Friday they give you the DBs, and then they're like, hey, here, have a little tight ends in there.
12:28Well, I mean, that'll be fun. Kenyon Sadiq. We will be on Sadiq watch. Eli Stowers. I mean, there's some interesting tight ends this year. Sadiq does lead the way, though, as someone who he's probably going to crush the combine.
12:42The Fantasy Footballers:Oh, he absolutely will. He is a very athletic big man. I genuinely think he's going to be pushing top 10. Oh, man. Which is a terrifying proposition for fantasy players. Yes. We're going to talk about one getting franchise tagged that we had to deal with for years. Saturdays quarterbacks wide receivers and running backs and then Sunday the offensive linemen big news though the Cowboys they signed Javante Williams to a three-year 24 million dollar contract congratulations Javante that feels like a true accomplishment it does because he could have he could have been like the worst case scenario for a running back prospect never get paid flame out of the league due to injury and I don't know get a job at Walmart yeah but instead he redeems himself with a fabulous year in Dallas and now they sign him to a three-year deal 16 million guaranteed congratulations Javante um Cowboys Stephen Jones said the team will place the franchise tag on George Pickens it's the only way forward it's the only way well I'm saying like this is you have to you can't just let George Pickens walk yeah whether it's sign and trade from this point or keep him or extend yeah this is unfortunately this does not give us any true information on what is the future like what is 2026 for george pickens where will he be we still don't know that because but this was the first piece that had to happen another bit of franchise tag news kyle pitts the expectation the falcons oh boy we'll use the franchise tag on kyle pitts and work on a long-term extension kyle pitts um he is 25 years old dude oh he did have a game a game of games though I mean an all time record so there you go you think of their offense right now and you're like you take Kyle Pitts out of it and they feel doomed like how do you give Michael Pinnock any chance at being a success if you're just deleting Kyle Pitts from this offense and it's Drake London who dealt with injuries and no one else in the receiver room so that'll be interesting Kirk Cousins is going to get released so it'll be Michael Pinnock's with another shot.
14:58The Fantasy Footballers:Do you think it works out?
15:03Kyle's listening with Bated Bro. I am hopeful? Nope. Nope. Nope. I lied. I lied. I'm very, very skeptical. I'm hopeful in terms of I want it to work because I want every quarterback to work. I'm not hopeful thinking it will work. Kyle's thoughts are, quote, nothing will ever work out.
15:25The Fantasy Footballers:That's a very Arizona Cardinals, New York Jets, Cleveland Browns. He's good, good. I still think those four teams, we should pool our players. I mean, let's figure this thing out. Seahawks, unlikely. It was first reported that they would or might consider it, but now unlikely to franchise or transition tag. Super Bowl MVP, Kenneth Walker. Get that money, Ken. You want him to leave? Or you just want him to sign a big deal there? I just want my guy to get paid. And, I mean, yeah, there's a couple spots I'd rather him go to. Because Charbonnet will come back. The ACL is not the end of Charb's career.
16:09No. It's not the end of Zach Ertz's career either. Oh, my gosh. This guy. But, like, Walker coming back, he'll have, you know, despite what happened there at the end in the playoffs where they had no choice and they have to keep giving him the ball over and over to great success I might add Super Bowl MVP but like if if Charbonnet had torn his ACL in week five or six like they wouldn't have gone just Walker they would go get someone else to have the the the complimentary piece so if he goes back to Seattle you know what it will be that's that's where it's I don't necessarily want him to go back selfishly for my dynasty team.
16:52The Fantasy Footballers:Yeah, and then, you know, I know injuries never concern you, but it's one of those things where it's like, did his success come by them managing? Is that the situation where Ken Walker's best in this league? Could be. Is someone managed reps, not every rep. But this one just blows my mind. I feel like we could spend forever in the news with what we have here. The Jets will, quote, probably, according to the athletic Zach Rosenblatt, probably use the franchise tag on Brees Hall. look i understand let me let me say something i understand that they got no idea what they're doing you're a professional athlete you're one of the i believe 0.027 percent of the kids that grow up to become a professional athlete i'm talking to breeze i so i'm saying all this to say i understand like how fortunate he is to be a professional running back but of all the players I've ever known he feels the most in prison than anybody I've ever.
17:47I just, how do you not, you don't like him, but you keep him. It's like a dysfunctional marriage or something. Just let him go. Let him go be free. Yeah, he will. It's better for the kids. I mean, like if he signs and plays on the franchise tag, yes, we're talking a lot of money for him, but then nothing guaranteed for the future. You play on the franchise tag. Franchise tags for running backs is just awful. You're saying because their windows are so small to make money? Because if he goes out on the franchise tag, blows up his knee.
18:24The Fantasy Footballers:Kyle, figure out what that number is going to be this year. Because we've got CMC's contract. You've got some big contracts out there. I wonder if it represents two or three years worth of money in some regards. It could. Yeah. But, yeah, to me it's just weird. It feels like vindictive. Kyle's saying 14 and a half. I mean, that's a lot of money. I know. It's a lot of money. But it's like Brees Hall in the open market? Brees Hall gets more than 14 and a half guaranteed. He does, but he should probably get that after this year. Yeah. But, yeah, I get what you're saying. Also, you don't want to spend your entire career playing for garbage.
19:05The Fantasy Footballers:Garbage team. The more he wants out, the more they want to keep him. the trade deadline felt vindictive and stupid. They could have gotten money or picks for him then. And then now it feels like maybe there's a trade in the works. Maybe it's just, let's get assets. Let's franchise them and trade them. I don't know. Tyreek Hill has been released. Okay. Congratulations. I guess there's part of me that feels like it's Kansas city or bus for his return. I don't think he's going back. Yeah. And he still has a nebulous legal surroundings. Oh, let's talk about. Oh, hey. Rashi Rice. You know, the news was not all just like basic bullet point news.
19:48The Fantasy Footballers:Because we also, I mean, we got the super tragic news about Rondell Moore. Yes. Who, you know, we're out in Arizona. I mean, Arizona drafted Rondell Moore. He was a part of this franchise for a long period of time. I mean, there's no, you know, seemingly okay way to even react to that news. Because it's just. Just report it. It's super tragic and sad. And, you know, he had gone through catastrophic injuries multiple years in a row. And when we talk about him on the show, not him, but, like, injuries, it's just like a sentence. Yes. Like, for us, it's a sentence of, like, okay, this guy tore his ACL.
20:26The Fantasy Footballers:For the player, it's, like, you know, it's years of rehabilitation and work and time and all the implications for your career and life's work, and we don't know what's going on. Instead of getting to play the games, you're just trying to fix your knee yeah and this is not a player with a secured it's not like his entire future in the nfl was secured coming back from injury either so i was it's really sad to get that news um so we do have other chiefs news the restructuring of mahomes contract to save them money and then the rashi rice news he was accused according to tmz of violent and abusive behaviors in a lawsuit it's a civil lawsuit um the news around rashi rice this time of year from about February to September not really been great.
21:06No. No, it has not.
21:11The Fantasy Footballers:There was also rumors for Kansas City about their interest in Travis Etienne, which probably the biggest reason that Jason would like to be here right in this moment is to think about his dynasty teams with Travis Etienne landing in Kansas City. It would be pretty good. He's a free agent. I think it would be pretty good. Not everyone can go to Kansas City and have like superstar success, Travis Etienne would be awesome there. He would. Zach Ertz is expected to return for a 14th season. And to be clear from his ACL injury, which was in week 14 of last year, by week one, I looked at the career numbers for Zach Ertz.
21:52The Fantasy Footballers:It feels like the world tried to retire him after 2020. And this will be six seasons since then if he plays this year. Right. So he's kind of sticking it to you, Mike. He won't get out of the way. He, yeah, and I hate what Zach Ertz has become in my life. He's a roadblock to all your other players? Yes, because Zach Ertz is an all-timer. I think he's like top 10 in receptions and yards at the position in the history of the NFL. He is an all-time player, great player, can still help a team. But, yeah, I mean, it was like Zach Ertz was in the way of Trey McBride. You couldn't get who is, now we look at, one of the best tight ends in the league.
22:39I think he has more catches than Jason Witten. I think he has more career catches than Jason Witten. It's crazy. There were multiple years where it was like, dude, PPR, Zach Ertz, it was awesome. But in the way of, what did we, nothing, man. Nothing. We got the Falcon back there giggling because you said pee-pee. I mean, it just, it was a normal sentence. Okay. Okay. You know. Grow up. Goodness gracious. Look, he can't even raise his head. But he was, so he does not have, it was a one-year contract with Washington. As I assume we're referring to Ben Sinnott, who I still, I have. I still believe.
23:19Well, I have a hope that he'll just get a chance. That's where it starts. Of course. Of course. You just want to get a chance and see if it will actually work. So where will he go? What team would Washington actually bring him back? Not completely sure.
23:32The Fantasy Footballers:Well, one more for you, Mike. The Patriots. Ah, yes, yes. Patriots have officially released Antonio Gibson. Yeah. I mean, that was pretty inevitable. All right, we'll take a break. We'll come back with some mailbag.
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25:08All right, let's get into it.
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25:12Mailbag. Mailbag.
25:15The Fantasy Footballers:Did you have a nice break? I had a delightful break. Yeah? Did you think about football very much? I was still checking in on the on the Twitter X machine just so I can stay apprised of the the news but I was trying to unplug trying my best you went up north for a little bit didn't you yeah oh yeah those red rocks got healed in the vortex Sedona yeah how long were you up there three nights oh that's nice look out the vortex will get you they're everywhere there I don't I don't even know what they are I don't know what they are Is that an aliens thing? It's an energy. Oh, is there some - Crystals and - Up in the vortex?
25:59Vortices? Vortexes? Brother, I couldn't not know what you're saying more. Also, when someone says vortex, I imagine literally a tornado.
26:09The Fantasy Footballers:Yeah, that's what I picture. But it's violent and it's probably got some lightning in it. But this is a healing tornado. It does the opposite. It puts stuff back together. Honestly, at this point, I'm really glad I wasn't up there after all that you said. It was awesome. All right, we're into the mailbag. If you have a question, go to the website, thefantasyfootballers.com. Click that Submit a Question button or dial our voicemail hotline. 302-464-TFFB. Looks like we've got a voicemail question. Not sure I'm a fan of the topic. Let's find out. Hey, Ballers. What on earth do I do with Kyler Murray and Dynasty?
26:44Help me out. I feel like this is going to be a fun one to talk about on the show. Take care. All right. Kyler Murray in Dynasty.
26:56My current thought process and belief is I think he's the quarterback of the Arizona Cardinals this year. I know there's a lot of smoke. So I'm not saying it won't be surprising if he's moving on. I just believe that where the Cardinals are with the contract situation that he probably just ends up playing it out in 2026. He's a$52 million cap hit right now in 26, and then it drops substantially down to a 7.2 if they were to cut him after this year. But I think he ends up just in Arizona. You need to hold on to him. Let the new scent of McVay,
27:47by way of LaFleur coming in. Let that give you some hope. Everyone right now is, you know, like they're looking at Minnesota, and it's like, who can we get to Minnesota? How do we get quarterbacks to Minnesota? I think Kyler's in Arizona, and I think that J.J. McCarthy is the starting quarterback for Minnesota, despite what all the media is trying to do right now.
28:11The Fantasy Footballers:Yeah, I'm really curious what's going to happen. So I would just be holding Kyler. What's going to happen? Yeah, I think there's no way his value can be lower than right now. There's probably no player with a more negative sentiment that's potentially fantasy valuable if they're a starter than Kyler Murray. Nobody's interested. They've all decided that they're out. I don't know if he'll be in Arizona or not because I don't really know who's pulling the strings there. You bring in LeFleur as sort of you waited a long time to bring him in. You wanted Kubiak. Bidwell is kind of controlling. controlling oh man you see people talking to bidwell again like being the president president yeah and he's like well no i'm the president i know and you're like we know we know you're doing a bad job we know little guy a bad job we know buddy um we know you got you got you on the team buddy you did you did a you worked real hard and you got the team the numbers of are staggering for NFL teams of owners who make themselves the president versus owners who bring someone in to be a president.
29:16The teams that bring someone else in, far, far more success. Wonder why. Wonder why bringing in a full-time person who's like, you are a football, you can be the manager of the football team over the guy who just got the team.
29:35The Fantasy Footballers:And all that to say, I think it's going to kind of be up to them do they want the reset like psychol psychologically in arizona because you bring in a new coach you let go of gannon there's part of me that thinks that they whether it's the right decision or not laflore might not get the say in it and they may just want the reset they might um to your new coach new quarterback is it malik willis is it uh tyson bajant uh tyler bajant right see what secret bajant man you didn't know are we no i have not heard there's rumors around uh bajant um no way about tyson bajant coming to arizona and being the quarterback no because they paid chicago paid them no paid him a decent amount of money to be a backup so it'd be a trade but there's there's rumors of some interest there so look it's all the path to number one for arizona it's all a path to arch manning or dante moore or something that's my view of this season i think the cardinals sure the reason they wouldn't bring kyler back is that they want they want to go out there and compete their way to number one it's very possible but just to kind of wrap up with the question just because i believe that kyler is the quarterback for arizona which that still has value for dynasty you want starting quarterbacks on your roster no matter what and also what if i'm wrong and he goes to minnesota if kyler murray ends up the starting quarterback of minnesota oh my gosh he will be good for fantasy football and that will be like a complete change in people's perspectives.
30:59I feel very confident about that. You know, J.J. McCarthy, it didn't immediately work fantasy-wise for him, but when you get competent quarterback play for Minnesota and the KOC offense, Carson Wentz, it was fine. So in Dynasty, the value is way too low right now to get anything back, so I'm just going to hold, cross the fingers. Would you actually go get him?
31:27The Fantasy Footballers:Because it's that low, man. It's that depressed. Sure. I feel like he would be – I feel like you could go get him for – let me ask you this. Would you trade Riley Leonard for him? Yeah. Okay. You're saying just the hopeful backup quarterback. Would you trade Will Howard for him? Yeah, probably. That one – it feels like more of a longer shot that Will Howard actually ends up the starter for Pittsburgh. Than Riley? Then – I feel like Howard is a higher odds than Riley. Yes, but I'm saying they're both very low odds compared to what Kyler represents for your team. Would you trade Tyson Bajant for him?
32:06The Fantasy Footballers:Yes, I would. Oh, okay. If I'm a team that needs a quarterback in this particular draft class, I'll send a third. That's what I'm curious about, yeah. Yeah, I'll send a third first. I don't think we mentioned that there was a report that the Colts are looking at a long-term deal with Daniel Jones. Yep, makes sense. this question comes in from Twitter from Bookie Betts which team do you think will go from worst to first in their division one team so since 2015 at least one team every year drafting inside the top 10 either wins their division or 12 games that year interesting so worst to first what are the worst teams we've got the Jets Browns Titans Raiders in the AFC we've got the Giants right the Lions yeah the Lions the Lions finish four give me a layup the Saints and the Cardinals I would say it's the Lions and Giants I think those are the two most interesting ones the Giants are interesting to me it's funny I would put it on Shuck I mean that division is one to pick for that division is always wacky I don't blame you for that So from worst to first, I would say I think the Saints have the best chance.
33:29The Fantasy Footballers:What happened to your Giants? You think they got a shot? They have a shot? Sure, they have a shot. It's looking at the opponents. Like the Lions, it does feel like the layup, but it's like Chicago and Green Bay are legit teams. Yeah, the divisions are way harder. And Minnesota's season is so funny. They were 9-8. Yeah. The Vikings were two games out of first place in the NFC North, and everyone's view of this season was an absolute disaster. They were 9-8. They won their last five games, I think. Like, they are not out. They're one Tyler Murray away from 9-8 again. uh instagram question from tim in ohio what do you think cam scataboo well he says cam scataboo yes what is his ceiling next year um he had that ankle fracture dislocation um we'll see what happens if he's ready in the or you know the later part of the offseason for week one ceiling for i mean i love the pass catching of cam scataboo and i love the established relationship between him and Jackson Dart.
34:48The Fantasy Footballers:I mean, what is the ceiling? Do you want a number? I mean, can Scadaboo be a top 12 guy?
34:57The Fantasy Footballers:Probably. He was on his way. Yeah, I would say probably. I think I'd probably, if you had said top 10, I might have paused. I mean, I think probably 10 to 15 is where I project his potential. Yeah, I think that's about right. I mean, part of his success, I mean, you had a couple things go right when he was kind of cooking. You had injury, right? The rest of the backfield was pretty beat up. You had no Malik neighbors in the passing game. But, yeah, I mean, he's a 24-year-old running back that can catch the ball. I mean, you've got to imagine he can finish inside the top 12. He's going right now in best ball as the running back 19.
35:37So he is being drafted aggressively. for someone whose ankle was... You think 19 is high? Just based off, like, right now? Right now, to invest at running back 19, with someone you don't know for sure, they're going to be ready for the season.
35:56The Fantasy Footballers:That's where I think, again, that's where I think the best ball plays in a big part there. Because ceiling, you're betting on a swing. And when you're 24, year two, I think that you have high upside, even if there's a lot of risk. Here's a couple names going behind Scadaboo right now. Travion Henderson. Okay, that's interesting. Javante and RJ Harvey. That's what I mean. I would say Travion, I'm surprised, is not ahead of him. Javante and Harvey I would probably put behind him in a best ball league. For sure. Oh, man. Not in a redraft. I think I think of it different in a redraft. What is this question?
36:36The Fantasy Footballers:Who put this in here? I don't know. Read it. I don't even know what we're talking about. I don't want to read it. I'm going to make Al read it. Al, next question. Oh, from Ben M. Next question. Ben M. LaVoy? This one's from Ben M. LaVey? Yes, over on Instagram. And he wants to know, what does Jason smell like? And I have to defer this to the captain of the ship because, dude, I can't smell nothing. Whiskey. Old fashions. Leather bound books. He smells like a... I'm very happy to report that I don't know. It's not an odor in which I can know that, which means he's doing... I'm not a fragrance guy.
37:25Are you a fragrance guy? I'm not. Does anyone here do the cologne? I feel like Falcon probably does. Are you shaking his head? Nope. I do. You do? What's your scent? Cheap stuff. I don't know I'm not saying it without sponsorship money Oh okay okay He smells more like a roller skate rink And I'm embarrassed Axe body spray It's close to that Oh no It's an axe knockoff Yeah I can't afford that Like machete I think it's called bod man Oh yeah Oh man I can't believe you made me admit this It comes in the Windex bottle. Yeah, it sure does. For more bottles? Because you can get more? Yeah. Do you need to smell good?
38:14I'd be surprised he doesn't mix his own. And also applies like cleaner. This thing. Like Windex? It's not a pump. It's not a finger pump. It's a full. You pull the trigger. You need a third party to bring it. Come in here and spray you down? I mean, I'm happy to say. I wish I hadn't spoken up. You're not. At least you don't. The worst guy is the too much. The too much guy. You know how you get too much? a windex bottle this one comes in a hose oh he has nothing left to say I mean no one I'm HR here I haven't had any complaints about you being an overpowering scent so you're alright we would say something cause an over-coloner that'll nuke a whole building permanent no you've never done that see we couldn't if we had known that you were a bod man We would have gone straight to you in this segment to start it.
39:11Do you use the one? The name of the scent is even more embarrassing. Yeah, do you use the one that is called Really Ripped Abs? That's the one. Does it work? No. It's the smell of it. It smells nice. Does it smell like Really Ripped Abs? No. What does that smell like? I don't know. I want to describe for the audio audience what this, I'm looking at a picture of this. This looks like something you would detail your car with. 100 % this is what you spray onto your dash and buff it off. Amazing. Oh yeah, Kyle just said it looks like Armor All. It's his armor. Shine your dash and smell like cash. What do you want to smell like?
39:55Really ripped ass. The other scent is Most Wanted. They're getting a lot of air time. I'm not sure we're getting a sponsorship on this product anytime soon. What an amazing time to take a break.
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41:40The Fantasy Footballers:i'm just visualizing the the the process in the morning of putting it on well i'm looking at the names of there's are there more names there's uppercut i'm happy to spend the rest of the day right here. Okay, Uppercut. Look out for... There's Uppercut, really ripped abs, most wanted. Liquid titanium. Come on! We're just... This is a product invented by AI. There's Fresh Guy. Fresh Guy sounds alright. Yeah. Is that a winter green? What color is that bottle? I don't know. It's out of stock. I hope every fragrance is the same. I hope every bottle is the same smell and they just name it different stuff.
42:25What is like the Fruit Loops or what's the... Oh yeah, where the... You're like, it's actually just the same. The same flavor? Yeah. This is incredible.
42:35The Fantasy Footballers:I hope there's one that's like Bald Spot.
42:43Every insecure... It's just named after insecurities of men. Moobs.
42:49Moobs. lovely handles sir do I detect a hint of moops
43:01oh oh my sophisticated oh yes do I catch some really ripped abs oh I love the off season so much what do you think Jay ah yes He's more of a Musk man. Of course. I'm Jay Griss. Oh, there we go. There we go. I'm Jay Griss. Oops.
43:33I hope you graduate through them as you get into better shape. Oh, gosh. They're going to get a random sales spike. Oh, this is fabulous. Well, thank you for your question, Ben.
43:50Oh, man. And you'll be able to buy autograph bottles of BOD by Al Borland on the shop tomorrow. Question from Aaron Brown, 9751.
44:02The Fantasy Footballers:Where do you rank Chargers weapons with a healthy offensive line? Which wide receiver would be the number one? You got McConkie and Trey Harris, Quinton Johnston, Lambert Smith. I think huge is still at the top for me. When they say weapons, are you counting? I mean, are you counting Hampton? Gadsden? I think they just want to know about the wide receiver. Don't make it too complicated. Huge, Ladd, or Trey Harris. If I had to pick one, I'm picking Ladd. Okay. Of that group. I mean, I just... He does not probably have the monster upside, but I feel the safest with him. Is that a bad feeling? No, I think it's fine.
44:49It was a slow start, but he kind of got it going. The Chargers are going to be very fun of seeing where ADP shakes out. Jason and I really like Trey Harris. I think he is a good prospect. He was more set up, and then Keenan Allen became available for them, and they picked him up, and Keenan Allen had 24 % of the targets. Heal up this offensive line, get this new offense cooking, and huge is going to be at the top for me I'll just that's how I'm going to handle it and then between Ladd and Trey Harris of the the value they bring you in the draft I think that's that will be where it's very interesting is Trey Harris just kind of left in the double digit rounds because if that's going to happen then he will be on a lot of my teams
45:41The Fantasy Footballers:liquid titanium most wanted really ripped abs fresh guy fresh blue musk dark ice blue surf oh fruity yeah okay iconic and uppercut oh and the most popular reserve now that sounds that's distinguished yeah that sounds like uh that guy has all the britannicas um annie the nanny how early should i be picking and researching players for the 2026 fantasy football season well you can't you probably shouldn't be picking them right now no no no but well i mean if you're playing basketball but maybe uh selecting researching the part of the advantage of the the year round is like you get to track the the sentiment on the public of of how they're looking at players and you get to like that's where you extract the value is you you have a player that your process says okay i like i like him i think The talent, the opportunity is there.
46:42You're like, oh, and the public has shifted because there's a new hotness or there's a new shiny player that we're really interested in, and now I'm going to get value. To me, just at least – not everyone's a degenerate like we are here where we're just getting all the news all the time, but keeping at least one eye on what's going on I think is a smart move just the whole time.
47:08The Fantasy Footballers:Yeah, and the NFL does you a favor. it doesn't really give you a break right like it doesn't uh you know the combine's coming soon then you're gonna have the league year start in march free agency is a humongous opportunity to talk about and pay attention to where you're kind of thinking about players and then you'll be into the draft and um you know this show is year-round so you can come hang out with us we'll do that dgen work for you yeah yeah we will um and we'll smell good doing it uh mike we might as well take this one without jason here um sam writes in from instagram what's your favorite card in your card collection mike and i have been uh speaking of degeneracy yes yes we have been into the trading card world my son got me into it about august of last year and um i really ran with the ball after that yeah as have i i have jumped in it's the parallels of fantasy football and card collecting is very, very strong.
48:07My favorite card in my, so my, my personal collection or PC, if you're in the hobby as we, how, how arrogant are we? We're like, it's the hobby. Oh, like of all hobbies? Yeah.
48:24The Fantasy Footballers:I don't know. What do you do? Oh, I'm in the hobby. And it was like card people like, yo, he collects cards. The hobby? $1.7 billion in card sales on eBay last year. Yeah, it's a very thriving business. And Mike was 1.2 of that. Yes. Mike owns eBay. Favorite card. My personal collection is Gridiron Marvel's cards. And my favorite card, I mean, it's recency bias, but I have a Dart PSA 10 Marvel that is pretty awesome. um we both have a horizontal larry fitzgerald downtown in honor of the goat the hall of famer first ballot yes um i do have a psa 686 rookie michael jordan i collect a lot of michael jordan i see now you're in nerd territory i know i'm sorry talking about it was the number one sale of all of those 1.6 billion in sales um question from wax against the machine Keep trade cut.
49:23The Fantasy Footballers:Marvin Harrison Jr., DK Metcalf, Mike Evans. Well, Evans is my cut. Cutting DK Metcalf. Metcalf is my trade. Marv is my hold. I don't want DK Metcalf in my life anymore. I don't want. The irony of all those three, I'd want Mike Evans in my life. His life is just on an expiring career. Yeah, he's towards the end. I was surprised by the way the news was being reported on Mike Evans. of, like we found out, hey, Mike Evans is going to test the market. But every report was Mike Evans going to return for another year. And it's like, was there any question that that wasn't going to happen? I think at this point, it's like when Larry was entering.
50:08Every year they're asking Larry in the offseason, are you coming back, are you not? I was surprised that that was the sentiment of the reporters. Like, hey, big news, Mike Evans is going to come back. he looked like he still had maybe the free agency yeah so he's gonna go get some cash keep trade cut Marv Metcalf Evans I assume we're talking a longer dynasty view so I would take I would take Marv
50:37The Fantasy Footballers:yeah I mean I don't want to but I'm gonna Instagram from YMV been playing redraft for 15 years do you think switching to keeper is worth it our keeper league is my favorite league because it's not overblown the like the impact of your keepers can really matter and it matters more in our league because of the you can trade draft picks so it's like when you when you sell your draft picks for the for the next year and you're like man i'm not even gonna be able to compete if you have strong keepers even if you don't have draft picks you can still compete so in ours we have a three keeper it doesn't overpower things so yeah i would i'd pick it up you don't have to abandon your your redraft you know three i think most people can handle three leagues if you're really if you're into fantasy football which if you're asking a fantasy football podcast the question you you like the game you could you can handle i'll redraft and a keeper uh last question super sharp 17 what do y 'all do when you're not talking about fantasy football uh i'm probably driving my son around to his football training yeah you are you're always you're always like he needs a license stat yeah but he's not old enough for yeah that'll get you you could give him the car but that's no that's uh you do you're always like at a different yeah event or even when i ask you you know i was like oh you want to go do do something oh no i'm at uh this park on the moon uh in the middle of the cold bro i have he has his first tackle game on saturday it will be the farthest i've had to go for oh really i'm we're pretty much driving down to casa grant for a congratulations for a football game yeah like what it's amazing what are we doing you you sport i mean that number is real by the way 0.027 37 % of kids make a professional sports league.
52:38The Fantasy Footballers:Not to say don't pursue sports. Just saying like, I don't know. That's interesting with how crazy. Kid sports have become super profitable, super hyper concentrated. This is not a joke. I don't know if you knew this, Mike, because you don't follow baseball. I believe an 11-year-old was just signed. That's not a joke. Signed to? To over a million dollar contract. What? From the Dominican. The Phillies signed an 11-year-old. By a professional baseball team. By a professional team. I see Deucer's Alley going, what? You're lying. No, this is real. It seems illegal. It didn't. I'm sure when they got the$1.2 million check, they were like, this is so legal.
53:21Kyle says correct. It was a futures contract.
53:24The Fantasy Footballers:But it's like. What? But that highlights what I'm saying. It's a crazy amount of time that you have to invest. hey but you got to chase your dreams sure yeah and by chase he means dad drive me around everywhere yeah no that's that's uh yeah no the card collecting thing's been kind of a fun hobby i mean we're all ever all three of us are uh dads to three kids so they they take up a lot of the time in a good way and or in my or in a bad way yeah so all right we're gonna wrap it up thanks for joining us. Thursday, we got some game time, some Who Am I, some Liar Liar in store for Thursday. We'll see how the studio evolves by then.
54:04The Fantasy Footballers:That'll be something you can watch. It might change every show. Who knows? It'll be a process over the offseason, but shout out to the Ducers and the team for their hard work, and we'll keep refining it. I'm sure the comments will tell us everything we need to know. That'll do it for this episode of the Fantasy Footballers. Catch you on Thursday. If you want a bonus episode all offseason, go to jointhefoot.com, support the show. Goodbye.
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