Fantasy Football - Explain Yourself! Debates + UDK RELEASE DAY! - Podcast for 6/1

21:06Okay, we just did all of our projections. We've got our 2026 UDK projections into the app, and there's differences of opinion. There's the right opinion, some of mine, and then there's your guys. Well, let's talk about one of yours, Andrew Holloway. There is a player you have at wide receiver 17. Mike and I have near the 30s and this is near the 40s. This is a player. Sure. This is a player who has never he's played four years in the NFL and has never had 50 receptions. Last year, he had over 23 yards per reception and barely squeaked as a wide receiver too in fantasy we looked up this stat wide receivers who have not hit 50 receptions through the first four years to go up to hit say 70 receptions a bet you and i made yeah

21:58Jason Moore:only one player has ever done it in the history of the nfl that is mike williams big mike who was drafted as a top 10 pick had multiple times um with nine or more touchdowns and still only hit wide receiver 17 or better once in his career. You have Alec Pierce as your wide receiver 17 Andy. Explain yourself. It was a fun year last year for Alec Pierce. I mean, certainly fun for him. This is a player that, you know, basically capitalized on the opportunity and that turned into a four-year,$115 million contract, 47 for a thousand and six for alec pierce to finish as the wide receiver 23 he did miss two games due to a concussion sometimes we we do this show and we get the things set up and you know i

22:46Mike Wright:have my ranking the way it is and i start to dig into it and i really want to i want to dig in deep and i want to be like yes i believe what i believe and that's what happened and that's what happened that's what happened here i am i'm all the more convicted that this that the community at large says Alec Pierce, far, far too low. Look, I know all the numbers around it, and you highlighted that it's rare for a player to go through the first four years and then the reception totals go up, and that hasn't been, like, Alec Pierce's recipe for success in the NFL is the big play. He has had six-plus touchdowns and 20-plus yards per catch in back-to-back seasons.

23:31His average depth of target, 19 yards down the field. That's spicy.

23:37Mike Wright:This one was crazy. 87 % of his receptions were first downs. 87%. That's number one in the league with more than 75 targets. This is something you might not know about Alec Pierce as well, but he was tied for number one with the lowest drop rate in the NFL last year. 1.2%, lowest in the league, over 75 targets. But the case for Alec Pierce, look, there was a time, and it's not perfect apples to apples, but there was a time that we saw James Cook have high efficiency performance numbers in Buffalo and get paid like a true bona fide number one running back. We were all like, is he that? And then he went out and he basically delivered on what the team's investment was.

24:23Mike Wright:this was a monstrous contract that Indianapolis chose to give to a guy with under 50 catches on the season but I watched almost every single one of the connections between him and Daniel Jones I had him on my fantasy team last year and this is a player that's been great at the NFL level for a long period of time why will 2026 be different number one the setup for Alec Pierce dramatically better. Michael Pittman, he's gone. He leaves behind 80 catches, 784 yards and seven touchdowns. Will there be other beneficiaries of his departure? Of course. But with him traded away and the team investing, I mean, let's not, this was not just like, we want to keep you around.

25:05This is a paying you to be one of the highest paid receivers in the game of football contract, $115 million. They paid him like a true number one, not just a deep threat, like one of the top

25:15Mike Wright:receivers, I think there's a chance I'm not bullish enough with my projections of Alec Pierce. I think that there's a chance that, you know, he had a thousand yards on 84 targets. That's a number that most top tier receivers will take 120, 130, 150 to get to a thousand yards. He missed two games, by the way. I mean, his numbers are a little bit, he's the perfect candidate for that. Like you played well, but you missed a couple of games. So your fantasy finish was a little bit lower. Like that just makes you a sneaky candidate to begin with. he doesn't have to become 120 catch guy to dominate for fantasy he needs to add two to three short to intermediate targets per game which are all being abandoned by michael pittman and so to me the difference is in our rankings i'm looking at this you guys have targets at about 90 94 16 target share i've got him at 105 20 target share seven touchdowns nothing about my projection is out of bounds.

26:09He can grow into a 20-21 % target share. He just has to change the player he's been for the first four years of his career. Would you agree with that? I would say that they have to utilize him in more ways than they've used him in the first four years.

26:22Jason Moore:Not just being a deep... because he has basically spent his entire career just being a deep threat. That is true, although there are... I mean, that's the stats in whole. You summarize his career, but when you go watch the games one by one, you also see him getting targets where... Look, your yards per catch number is a reflection not just of air yards there were in routes there were slant routes there were plays that they were turning to him for first downs where he caught the ball and he ran with it they weren't all isolated you know even though the averages were there and that's what he's been as a majority what i saw in film was a player able to prove that he could do other things and to me the numbers say that everybody else believes that you know if you only believed he's a deep threat you do not pay him this money ever you just can't do it and so to me he is like i i asked these guys before I'm like where is he actually sitting in terms of ADP and it's wide receiver 40.

27:08Yeah he's in the eighth round. For a player. That doesn't cost you anything he already I don't mind that

27:13Jason Moore:at all. No no I mean look wide receiver 40 is outrageous to me. The efficiency numbers were probably outrageous last year but they're pretty close to what you could do. His yards per catch is going to come down. His targets are going to go up. He's going to score six to seven times if not more in this offense and he's going to outpace the wide receiver 40. I just feel like that's a guarantee when you take the season that he had the money he was paid the departure of Pittman the only thing that can really detour this in a significant way is Daniel Jones not being himself yes if Daniel Jones is not there you got a problem with Tyler Warren you got a problem with Josh Downs and guess what Jonathan Taylor you got a problem too because this offense is not going to function without Daniel Jones that's that's where I'm at with Alec Pierce I feel like he's a low investment capital wise high reward with upside to play into the contract i i do not in i don't have my projection for alec pierce statted like you do i really don't i think he's going to continue to play the role that he has played so well he's so good at stretching the field opening things up getting deep passes so i think they'll keep him there however when you are in the eighth round on the back of the eighth he's like on the eight nine turn right now in ADP the wide receiver 40 it costs you nothing and there is clearly an avenue and a money and an investment path towards he is like he's their alpha one that's maybe what they want to do I have zero problem like I love trying to dunk on you here and be like you're so stupid but that's fun protects draft cost is like I will be taking a lot of Alec Pierce if he stays that low in drafts

28:54Mediocre Signing of the Week. Juju Smith-Schuster has been added to the Giants roster. Giants. What are you doing, baby? Beckham. I mean, this is now the red flags can fire off into the sky around Malik neighbors. I'll tell you what, man.

29:10Jason Moore:Antonio Brown is somewhere. He is doing the Michael Keaton Batman gift right now. OBJ and Mooney. He doesn't know where he is. Juju, Obu, Jay, and Mooney. This is not. I mean, that's not going to be the roster come start of the season. Look, Malachi Fields doesn't have to compete with much. Oh, my God. Darius Slayton is there. The vibes. The vibes are bad. But so back to Alakir. Sorry, go ahead and tell me. What do you think about Alakir? No, I'm. I just. While you were talking, I went in. I bumped him up a little bit. Oh, that's the highest compliment you can pay me. It's. I'm moving him down.

29:49to affect our consensus rankings it's he's a difficult player because you look just you know based off of career projecting when when huge jumps are going to happen it can be difficult especially when a player is this established but we're in weird territory of like historically all the comps the mike williams stat yes all of that exists but also he just got that contract so So it's – and NFL teams screw up contracts. You want to know who had 33 and 37 receptions his first two years in the NFL? Who's that? It's not three years, but it's two. What about four years? Nico Collins. Nico Collins didn't do anything.

30:28Oh, I like that counterpoint. I mean, there are players. Robert Woods is another one where you just kind of – You see it. You're hiding in plain sight in the offensive system. I don't know. I've never seen a greater endorsement of a true wide receiver one

30:41Mike Wright:than what they did this offseason. They shipped off the guy that was supposed to be their one and then paid him$115 million.

30:45Jason Moore:I think the only problem with that is that when they shipped off Pittman, I know that they paid Pierce, so their actions definitely said, this is a giant part of our team, but the GM and the head coach, they were just talking so much about Josh Downs and how he's the one that's going to step up, he's going to earn more targets. And, of course, you've got Tyler Warren there, who I still think that's their number one receiving option this year. It's just$84 million guaranteed. Yeah. to give a player that and then give him 16 a another 17 target share or so i will say this would be a criminal misuse of your resources i believe kyle i'm pretty sure this is right he was an unrestricted free agent right he was like the bell of the ball on the free agent market yes he was so he's going to get a big contract right he's going to if you look at the colts who you know Just traded the future.

31:37Why is he going to get a big comment?

31:38Jason Moore:Because there were no wide receivers on the market. Oh, that's why. The free agent market for wide receivers was just garbage. Darnell Mooney's a deep threat. He didn't get$115 million. But my point is, you couldn't lose this player. If you're the Colts and you already traded Pittman, you can't lose Alec Pierce. So I do think there's some of that.

31:56Mike Wright:I don't believe that was the order it happened. Yeah. It was the opposite order. They signed him and they traded him. They paid before they traded Pittman? Yes. Okay. yeah it i'm gonna lean into the contract i mean that's the highest paid free agent history in the history of the nfl that'll that'll affect things that wide receiver it i mean and that's what you got to lean on honestly is the fact that they will change things they will get that target share up he seems like a player that should thrive if you can utilize him properly he can take i think he can have a higher target share and be a big piece of the offense all right that's that's it for me and Alec Pierce, Mike, I think you get to set Jason up here.

32:36All right. Jason Moore over here. Dumb dumb. Oh, I love this. I love this. You're the perfect guy to set this up. Absolute dumb dumb because Jason's... What a cool setup. Well, because look, Jason's over here. He's just like, at any moment, Kevin White. Oh, no, I'm sorry. Not Kevin White. He's like Michael Floyd. Oh, no, I'm so sorry. I'm so sorry, everyone. I'll get it right. Corey Davis. Oh, just at any moment, any moment, Roma Dunze made the top 10 pick. Cool. Cool. Roma Dunze is already being destroyed by his depth chart. Colston Loveland. Kevin White. Luther Burden. I mean, it is.

33:17Jason Moore:Those are literally the only, in the history of what we've done, those are the only people he can come up with who are drafted that high who weren't great for fantasy. Jerry Sayward Bay. Devontae Parker. Le 'Von Treadwell. Devontae Parker? Yes, he was. No, you just said Darius Hayward Bay. Oh, he was a top 10 pick. Was he really? Yeah, brother. Oh, my God. You should pick up a history book because NFL players bust all the time in the first round. I'm just saying, there's already better players on this team right now. The coach, Ben Johnson, has already said, quote, I am buying Luther Burden stock right now.

33:50Last year, Roma Dunze ran 120 routes with Luther Burden on the field. in those routes Roma Dunze was putting up a spectacular .81 yards per route run and if you want context for that that's what Tyler Lockett was putting up on the Raiders and yes ladies and gentlemen before you go and check Tyler Lockett was in fact on the Raiders last year for part of the season out producing Roma Dunze. Adam Thielen on the Steelers out producing Roma Dunze. That was the one I forgot

34:18Jason Moore:I was like he was on the Steelers. Yeah you don't have to look he was there putting up more production than Roma Duzay on a per route basis. Jason, spoil yourself! That was quite the introduction. This is so easy to explain. First of all, the yards per route run when they were on the field together, the beginning of the year, Luther Burden didn't play that much. It was towards the end of the year when Luther Burden got on the field more because he was a rookie. That makes sense. It was also during the end of the year that Roma Duzay was injured. He was very injured. He literally didn't play the last five weeks of the season after trying to tough it out.

34:50I went back week by week by week and I looked at the uh injury report and I watched the film and I remember having them let me remind people now yes you can talk about the busts at the top 10 drafted in the NFL but there are also really good players drafted in the top 10 at wide receiver beat for a reason we never really laid out what you're explaining just in the sense that Jason has them at 19 i have mike hasn't been 31 you do have to explain what you're explaining yeah i'm explaining why i have romem 10 spots ahead of mike 10 spots ahead of mike 10 spots ahead of adp right now he's being drafted as the wide receiver 30 in the seventh round luther burden is being drafted as the wide receiver 17 in the fourth round so you're spinning up a lot to know that burden is better but i want to remind people and especially you mike what happened last year because when burden started the season not involved and Rome was healthy.

35:47Right. Rome was the wide receiver three through the first month of the season, and it wasn't all touchdowns. We're talking 153 target pace. He was awesome. He got injured after week eight. So half the season is over. During that time, he was already on pace for 136 targets, 1148 yards, 12 touchdowns. He was really awesome. How awesome? Because, you know, busts is what you're throwing out. that he's not good. Yeah. Except he was the wide receiver seven in points per game through the first half of the year. That's not a bust. That's a top 10 drafted pick who was alpha man, who was doing everything for fantasy you wanted.

36:25And then he got injured. What happened after that? Well, he never had a full practice week the rest of the season, including once he came back into the playoffs. He was resting every Wednesday, resting every Thursday, barely practicing on Friday, going out there and playing like trash. I mean, after he was injured, 38 % catch rate. He was on pace for 639 yards and three touchdowns. He also didn't play as many snaps. He was usually out there for 93 % of the snaps when he was healthy, and then all of a sudden they're trying to monitor him, trying to relax this heel-foot injury, and he's playing 70 % of the snaps.

37:03Yeah, he wasn't that good because he was injured. now if he's healthy if you're telling me i have to take a bet on whether roma dunze who they did spin the number nine pick in the draft for and for a reason everybody won't believed that this was a guy who was a top 10 nfl draft pick it wasn't like they reached it wasn't a shock in the draft where we're like correct oh my god like darius hayward bay that was like oh he's the fast speedster guy that got overdrafted rome was john ross exactly rome was expected to be a great wider receiver uh my Felix score that you know I've talked about a lot and that has been so far looking really good for judging prospects has Rome as a part of the UDK by the way part of the UDK now it's in there has Rome as a 90th percentile prospect he's not a bad prospect he's not a bus player and what he did in his sophomore year was dominate for fantasy until he injured his foot and then he sucked and then you get excited about other people if you're telling me in the seventh round, I get to take a guy who's being drafted at wide receiver 30, who has the ability to come out and truly dominate.

38:09I know Rome's going to be on the field. Two wide receiver sets, he's going to be on the field. He is their alpha one. Now, I'm not saying anything against Luther Burden that he's not good. I love the film. He moves different. He's great. He is not as good a complete wide receiver as Rome right now. They're still talking about how, like in that comment, that, you know, oh, I'm buying stock. That's great. Except if you listen to the whole thing, he's talking about how he's really worked on his route tree and we're starting to see some routes that we can add to it. That's great. But he's got to do that.

38:42They don't talk about that with Rome because he has a complete route tree. First of all, a few comments. That's really assuming a lot. One comment, if you started the year with Rome and Abuka last year, they're very similar. There was a major injury to Ibuka that moved him around the field and the Evans injury, and then the Odunze injury gets underplayed. Two, I am pretty sure Mike only is allowing himself like 10 units of love for the Bears, and he has to move them from somebody. That is true. He has to move them from Odunze to Burden. His amount of love of Burden is so high, there's not enough room for anybody else.

39:21Jason Moore:And the truth is, with all three of the Bears' prospects, you have to choose. You just have to. here's what I promise can't happen Loveland can't be the wide receiver or the tight end three while Burden is the wide receiver eight and Rome is the wide receiver twelve like there's just not enough for all

39:40Mike Wright:three to hit unless Caleb is the quarterback one

39:42Jason Moore:right so you are taking a bet right now most people are betting on Luther Burden I am betting on Rome I genuinely says that they are yes that's what I mean I genuinely believe that at the end of the year I am so confident that Rome will have far more targets, far more touchdowns. On a per touch base. Sure. I will happily bet just season finish, Rome versus Bird. Fantasy finish? Fantasy finish. Oh yeah, I'll take Luther. Beautiful. Yeah, put it on the board. Bet it. There it is. Water bet. Because, I mean, you said a lot of words, but all I heard was Romo Dunze is soft. Soft. Because he hurt his foot?

40:22Yeah. Oh, okay. Soft. Can't play. Can't play through injury. His foot was a burden to him. Hey, oh, got him. Can I just take Loveland out of this deal? Oh, no. We're also in on Rome.

40:35Mike Wright:I'm more in on Rome with Jason because of the draft pricing because I believe the same things. I believe that Rome is a true alpha. You didn't even bring up the fact that they got rid of another one of their top-tier receivers, right? DJ Moore is now a member of the Bills, and by the way, struggling with the playbook over there. Yeah, I heard that. I'm not out on Rome.

40:59Jason Moore:No, you can't come back. You're not allowed in. You're out. I locked the door, Mike. Okay, that's fine. Dead bull. He's like, whatever, that's fine. I'm out on Rome. He's like, no, that's cool. I was going to say, the ADP of Rome, I don't think that makes sense either. The disparity is too big. I don't think the ADP of either of those guys makes sense. I'm excited for Burden. Burden does because this is what people do. Spending a fourth round pick on the hope and chance. That feels hopium. The hopium is, I can tell, I'll speak for Mike, Amon Ra. Yes. It's the Amon Ra argument.

41:33Mike Wright:It's the, this dude's going to function in that role in this offense and be that good in this offense for years to come. That's wide receiver, three numbers.

41:41Jason Moore:I think just because Ben Johnson had Amon Ra and comes over, people are saying Amon Ra, it's not the same type of player to me. This is more of like a Percy Harvin, like get the ball in his hands on screens and just let him. Percy Harvin. Just trying to like, I mean, he's awesome with the ball in his hands. He is awesome. But Amon Ra is awesome in routes and like, you know, he's just always in the right spot at the right time. He's a tactician. I remember us having these conversations. Is Amon Ra actually good? Yes. This will be a fun one. Luther Byrd, actually good. This will be a fun one. Rome, maybe.

42:16We'll take a break and then we'll see what Mike can do as we enter the geriatric portion of this show. Yes.

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44:17And there it is, the geriatric portion of the show. Deuces alley. Just Josh. Josh, it's you. Yeah, don't you? Josh, it's you. Just out of nowhere. All right. Mike's player that we're talking about today is Devontae Adams. All 33.4 years old. Devontae Adams. I've got him at 32. I think that's probably a little bit too low after we did his player profile video. Because he is 33, yes. Jason has him at 27. You have aged him too low. Mike has him ranked at number 17. Yeah. This is the final year of his contract in Los Angeles. Out of all of the top 24 fantasy seasons on a point-per-game basis since 2010,

45:01Mike Wright:only 5.5 % have been achieved by receivers who are 33 years or older. So the biggest challenge here for Devontae Adams is father time. He's old. That's for sure. And he was also just ridiculously efficient last year around the goal line. Now, when we started talking through this team, look, I think the team was willing to move on from Devontae Adams this offseason. Seemed like it. It seems like they were willing to invest in a wide receiver, but they chose Ty Simpson over Makai Lemon. So here we are. We end up with the Devontae Adams default. We'll call it that. But, Mike, you have him the highest among the three of us, so explain yourself.

45:42So, obviously, last year, Devontae Adams, the goal line wide receiver, he ends the year with 14 touchdowns despite missing weeks 16 through 18 with a hamstring injury. basically was the best season inside the five yard ever for a a wide receiver 27 end zone targets yes he is old but we always have our hall of fame outliers devante adams is a first ballot hall of fame type of wide receiver to me jason always okay yeah he'll be he'll probably he'll probably be second ballot because of how difficult it is for but okay i let me let me change the phrasing Devontae Adams is guaranteed to end up in the Hall of Fame.

46:25Can you agree with that, Jason? I think that is probable, yeah. He's got a championship, right? Yes. Yeah, he had one with the Packers, right? Packer boy, or was that too soon? Or was that before? No, actually, I don't think he has one. I don't think he's a guarantee, but I mean, the point you're making is he's an all-timer. He's great. He's an all-timer. I think he's a guaranteed Hall of Fame type of wide receiver, and those types of guys end up being able to play longer than your average. Oh, Kyle's up. No Super Bowl. He was there right before it happened or after it happened.

46:51Mike Wright:Can't even get to a thousand yards. Go on. And so, and here's what I want to bring up is the touchdowns is the story of Devontae Adams' season. But what we're not looking at is his catch rate for a player of his caliber just does not make sense. It does not make sense at all to me that Devontae Adams, who has his career before, even including last year, a 63 % catch rate. That's fine. That's not crazy. That's not he's catching everything. That's not he's down catching what? Less than half of his balls like Roma Dunze. Devontae Adams was playing with the MVP of football, and yet he only caught 53 % of his passes last year.

47:38Take a look at the rest of the team. Colby Park, and these are so catchable targets. 68.5 % of Devontae Adams' targets were catchable. That's ridiculously low. Parkinson, 93%. Davis Allen, 91%. Makes sense. Tight ends. What's Puka? Jordan Winnington, 88%. Puka with 163 targets. 86 % of his targets were catchable. You think Stafford was just assuming he was faster and threw the ball out ahead of him? This is a, we are not completely on the same page until we close in on the field. The fact that you can go in inside the five and catch half of your targets, turning them into touchdowns, and then only 68 % of your targets on the year are catchable.

48:23That seems like a number to me that will regress. That really does sound like he's overthrowing. It sounds like he's like, you should be further. Last year, Adams was 10th in wide receivers for air yards and 8th for unrealized air yards, as in he's just, the targets are going and they're not catchable, and it's not even Adams' fault. It was just a misconnection between Devontae Adams, a great wide receiver and Matthew Stafford last year's MVP. I just don't see a world where on this team he's not still in the mid-20s. I'm not out of control of my projection. I got him at 24 % of the targets. He was 25 % last year.

49:02I just have him catching more of them which seems like an absolute no-brainer to me. The fact that they passed on Makai Lemon with everything like oh they were going to get rid of Adams. They didn't. They didn't add anybody. It's Devontae Adams. It's Puka. These are going to be the main two guys, and they're going to keep running their 12 sets out there. It'll be just the two wide receivers and the consolidation of targets. And to me, there's no way this year that the connection of Matthew Stafford and Devontae Adams results in Devontae catching 53 % of his passes again.

49:33Mike Wright:Well, I would pay a lot of money for breaking news right now that A.J. Brown was traded to the Rams. I would pay a lot for that. I would change my argument. But I think the hardest part for me is those arguments all make a lot of sense to me if Devontae Adams is not in the decline of his career in terms of, oh, they'll fix what was broken. It's hard to lay at the feet of Matthew Stafford the problems last year of connecting with Devontae Adams. It's easier for me to lay that at the 33-year-old Adams' feet and say the MVP of football, who won the MVP, could connect with everybody but you. like that to me that there's a problem there and i also don't like for and terrence ferguson by the way and terrence ferguson okay well that says a lot uh 60 of ferguson's targets were catchable the problem to me is like you get another year you get another year of injury exposure and problems for davante adams you get another year of like hey does it does he catch enough touchdowns to make up for the inefficiencies elsewhere or does he become more efficient elsewhere that's tough for me to try to figure out and with the injury thing on top of it and it's just hard to project the older you get the more it gets fixed yeah that's that's the part that is the challenge for me but it is also very hard to look at the roster as it stands today the depth chart as it stands today what you expect from Stafford from a stat sheet standpoint and not say Adams ends up with a ton of it because unless someone else emerges in the offense it's really hard not to give him those counting stats.

51:02I mean, you can, yes, he is older than the Raiders years, but the Raiders years would have been what him at 30 and 31, if I'm doing the math right. Those years he caught 56 % and 59%. From those Raiders quarterbacks, he had a higher catch rate than he did from Matthew Stafford. And I, I'm not, I'm not saying it's, you know, one person's fault or the other. I agree with, yeah, it's probably more on Adams than it would be on Stafford, but I think they fix it. fix it and you get he doesn't have to be outrageous get him up to below his career average at 60 and he he will be awesome for fantasy this is the first environment that

51:42Mike Wright:davante adams has ever had to adjust to where you are not the dude you are not the dude at all yeah and on when i look at go to wide receivers when that ball is snapped target one two and three is puka and then adams is this i just think adjusting to that may have been more difficult for adams could have been jason has him somewhat more on the lower side yeah i mean i are you do you have

52:05Jason Moore:you look like a man with no strong opinion here uh i i think that it's very difficult to bank on a 34 year old wide receiver you know the stat you brought up earlier 5.5 percent of all top 24 uh finishes and that's not a that's top 24 not not top 12 are for players over that age now he is one of those that's like hey maybe he could go a long time but i i believe that if he does crack the top 24 it's going to be touchdowns again you know it's it's going to be oh he got he got double digit touchdowns and that could absolutely happen i do think between the 20s he's going to be unreliable so probably not a very consistent where's he being drafted i don't adp wise i don't expect him to repeat what he did last year and that's so if it gets worse than that yeah i think you're thinking wide receiver 19 that's yeah he's still he's still up there i will say this i mean first thoughts i mean just happened rams defense just became i mean you just brought it up one of the reasons that that cleveland you know they don't have to do a lot

53:06Mike Wright:miles garrett on the defensive side of the ball are you seeing do you have any initial expectations for that offense to be less productive no i don't because the game's in hand and tyson is getting some token snaps? Not even that. Their defense... The Rams defense is always good. And yeah, you have an impact player who probably ends up with more sacks now. So, a couple drives ended here. But on the season, I'm not going to look at the acquisition of Garrett and change my offensive outlook. Or your financial outlook. You're not going to change any of your investment profile. Listen, before we close it out, as we've each defended ourselves, and I think We're on edge here.

53:47Mike Wright:Very defensive. Field Dates just tweeted this out. I just want to read it to you. Rams first round pick since 2016. You ready? In 2016, Jared Goff, who was traded for Stafford. None, none, none, none, none, none, none. 2024, Jared Verse, who was traded eventually for Miles Garrett. None in 2025, and then Ty Simpson in 2026. It sounds like my dynasty team for the first 10 years. but they've basically had none or they've traded the ones that they've had for established players which you can win but it feels like the creditors will catch you everybody out there say a little prayer for one man, one man only his name is Jared Verse Jared, you were one drive away from the Super Bowl and you're going to be watching it next year from home, sorry buddy catch you on the next episode enjoy the UDK everybody Thank you for listening to another episode of the Fantasy Footballers Podcast.

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