Fantasy Football - Fantasy Time Machine + Jacobs in Jeopardy? - Podcast for 8/28

28 Aug 2026 · 47 min · 20 chapters

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In short

The Fantasy Footballers discuss how fantasy strategy has changed over the podcast’s decade-plus run, emphasizing smarter ADP, faster news cycles, and the need to find edges despite more informed managers. They also cover “Fantasy Time Machine” predictions: 2026 Javante Williams is David Montgomery (Texans goal-line usage); 2026 RB1 candidates include Jadarian Price (Seahawks) and Bashal Tootin (Jaguars). For 2026 Trevor Lawrence, they debate Kyler Murray (Vikings) vs Tyler Shuck (Saints) vs Baker Mayfield (their pick). For 2026 Jerry Rice, they pick Jalen Coker (Panthers), Dontavian Wicks (Eagles), and Jack Besh (Raiders). Key news: Josh Jacobs faces misdemeanor charges (battery, criminal damage) tied to a garage video; they call him a risky draft pick with potential value if suspension doesn’t hit.

Guests

Kyle the Borgogan and Matthew Betts (attending the live “Megala Bowl/Bold Predictions” show).

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A Look Ahead to Episode 2000

0:32 to 1:10

Discussion about the upcoming milestone of episode 2000 and a live show.

“Some won't wash their lucky mustard stained jersey until the season's over.”

A Look Ahead to Episode 2000

2:14 to 4:19

Discussion about the upcoming milestone of episode 2000 and a live show.

“did you notice we're inching towards show 2000 here are we really it's pretty darn close yeah according to if my calculations are correct it's episode 1960 yeah we're heading into hippie zone.”

Fantasy Football Strategy Changes

4:19 to 7:16

Exploration of how fantasy football strategies have evolved over the years.

“that I want to give away from my personal sports card collection that I'm going to give to the winner of the Megalobowl this year.”

The Impact of Information on Fantasy Football

7:16 to 9:16

Discussion on how rapid information dissemination has changed the game.

“You know, one of the biggest things that has changed over the last decade is grammar.”

Josh Jacobs Legal Situation Overview

9:16 to 14:01

Analysis of Josh Jacobs' legal issues and their potential implications on fantasy drafts.

“I remember, look, statute of limitations.”

Discussing Josh Jacobs and Insurance Backs

14:01 to 16:38

Fantasy managers debate the value of Josh Jacobs and alternative insurance backs.

“I mean, that's another decision fantasy managers can always make, which is, hey, who do you want on your team?”

Discussing Josh Jacobs and Insurance Backs

16:39 to 17:33

Fantasy managers debate the value of Josh Jacobs and alternative insurance backs.

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Discussing Josh Jacobs and Insurance Backs

17:38 to 19:01

Fantasy managers debate the value of Josh Jacobs and alternative insurance backs.

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Discussing Josh Jacobs and Insurance Backs

19:05 to 19:15

Fantasy managers debate the value of Josh Jacobs and alternative insurance backs.

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Fantasy Time Machine: Predicting Future Players

19:15 to 28:00

Hosts predict breakout players for the upcoming season based on past performances.

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Discussing Tank Bigsby's Potential

28:00 to 29:08

Explore the potential of Tank Bigsby in the current fantasy landscape.

“This whole gag you're doing, you know what really sucks about it?”

Analyzing Quarterback Candidates for 2026

29:08 to 30:24

Discuss the qualities to look for in a quarterback who could surprise in 2026.

“And I think some people are not sure if it's a truth or a lie.”

Kyler Murray's Comeback Potential

30:24 to 33:19

Assessing Kyler Murray's chances of resurgence with the Vikings.

“Kyler Murray, the new quarterback for the Minnesota Vikings, is I think a much better fantasy pick.”

Evaluating Tyler Shuck's Prospects

33:19 to 36:15

Examining Tyler Shuck as a potential fantasy quarterback sleeper.

“That's not an elite level, but that's perfectly fine.”

Baker Mayfield's Fantasy Potential in 2026

36:15 to 38:22

Discussion on Baker Mayfield as a candidate for future success in fantasy football.

“He was reverse Trevor Lawrence last year.”

Finding the 2026 Version of Jerry Rice

40:06 to 42:04

Identifying potential wide receiver breakout candidates for 2026.

“I thought the 2026 Jerry Rice was Devontae Adams, according to your post.”

Jalen Coker's Potential as a Sleeper

42:04 to 43:36

Learn about Jalen Coker's capabilities and potential impact in fantasy football.

“I think that Jalen Coker is going to be an every down player all year long.”

Dontavian Wicks: A Late-Round Steal?

43:36 to 46:04

Explore the prospects of Dontavian Wicks and his potential role in the Eagles' offense.

“who is going even later than Jalen Coker in drafts.”

Emerging Wide Receivers: Team Analysis

46:04 to 48:28

Discussion on various wide receivers and their chances of emerging as team stars.

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Jack Besh: The Hidden Talent

48:28 to 51:26

An overview of Jack Besh and his potential impact if given the opportunity.

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0:00Jason Moore:If you're an NFL fan, ESPN is where you need to be this season. It's the biggest lineup they've ever put together. Monday Night Football, every week, every game on NFL Network. Now also available with an ESPN Unlimited plan. And for the first time ever, Super Bowl 61. Marquee matchups, MVP quarterbacks, international games, the whole season start to finish. footballs on ESPN. This episode is brought to you by State Farm. Every football fan is different. Some won't wash their lucky mustard stained jersey until the season's over. Some insist they can't sit down on third downs and some pick their favorite team because I don't know.

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1:10Jason Moore:great scott if my calculations are correct you are listening to this before your fantasy football drafts have taken place. I have been to the future and those that followed the advice from the Fantasy Footballers Ultimate Draft Kit had a spectacular season and with certain many victories. It's almost as if Biff had given each of them a copy of Grey's Sports Almanac. I'd highly recommend heading over to www.ultimatedraftkit.com without any further delay.

1:48Jason Moore:Welcome to the Fantasy Footballers Podcast with your hosts, Andy Holloway, Jason Moore, and Mike Wright.

2:05Mike Wright:Welcome in.

2:13Mike Wright:it's a friday show jason warren mike wright andy holloway the fantasy footballers podcast did you notice we're inching towards show 2000 here are we really it's pretty darn close yeah according to if my calculations are correct it's episode 1960 yeah we're heading into hippie

2:32Andy Holloway:zone. Wow. That's right.

2:34Mike Wright:We're getting into the 60s.

2:35Andy Holloway:Yeah. Groovy, man. Groovy, baby. Kyle says October. It must be mapped out.

2:41Mike Wright:Kyle is with us. Are we going to... I don't have the button. They took it away from me. Go to the deucer cam. You get one day with...

2:48Andy Holloway:Because there's some special... Matthew Betts, get in! Yay! Matthew Betts, Kyle the Borgogan. The East Coasters, the least coasters, I should say, have flown in. In the building today. That made Kyle sad.

3:01Jason Moore:And why are they here? Watch your mouth. Oh, he's got a microphone. They're here because while this is a Friday show, this is not our only Friday show. We have a live show at the Van Buren tonight. Bold Predictions, which will be released tomorrow.

3:16Mike Wright:Shouldn't we have been saving our voices this morning? Yeah. Like for the big show?

3:20Jason Moore:Let's wrap this up. Maybe we should talk like this. Actually, this brings us harder on your voice. I know. Yeah, so if you want, there's a few tickets left. It will sell out before the show tonight. Yep. You can please come if you're available. The Megala Show tonight presented by SiriusXM, sponsored by GMC and PetSmart. It's a bowl predictions episode. It's going to be awesome. Lots of fun things planned and in store. We're really looking forward to it, but that's why Borg and Betts are here. That's why the – Everybody's here. Everybody. The whole world is here. Biggest loser.

3:52Mike Wright:It's going to be fun. And then the Megala Bowl, we shot an email out this morning. That's getting filled up. Draft spots available. completely free for Foot Clan members. Megalobowl.com. Pick a draft spot between September 4th and the 8th. There are a ton of opportunities to jump into a league and be part of the biggest fantasy football league out there and have a chance to be in the Listener League next year, get an ultimate for life. I'm going to bring something else next week that I want to give away from my personal sports card collection that I'm going to give to the winner of the Megalobowl this year.

4:27Mike Wright:and a lot of that, I mean, it's just going to be so fun. Megalobo.com. I'm bringing dirty socks. Are you contributing autographed or not? Well, with my scent. Oh, autographed with your scent. All right, quick question of the day. What part of fantasy football strategy, I mean, today is a fantasy time machine show, so there's a theme here. What part of fantasy strategy has changed the most since the day the podcast started? it which somebody out there had looked up uh they found an old episode and we had to do that we had a well don't yeah definitely don't do that back in the bedroom and we were like it was like if you could take anybody today for the next 10 years for the next this was a show after the show 10 years in fantasy and it's it's been 10 years since that show wow i got a spoiler we didn't get the answers well i you and i were pretty much agreed that it should be russell wilson at the time wow remember when he was great i believe jason i want to say i was obj you were odell beckham

5:31Jason Moore:june young it would be like right now being like i want to you know jsn right i mean 10 years is a

5:39Mike Wright:long time what would the right answer have been at the time derrick henry i don't know if henry I don't know if Henry was in the league at that time. Devontae Adams? Yeah. Yeah, that would have been. I mean, Matthew Stafford? I mean, there's a.

5:54Jason Moore:I don't know. I mean, the truth is there's not really a good answer to have for 10 years. Remember how Adams stunk back then? Oh, yeah. You can't play a 10-year game. I mean, you've got to play a three-year game in dynasty terms. Yeah. Stupid question. I reject the question on principle.

6:10Mike Wright:Fantasy strategy, though, that has changed the most, in your opinion, since fantasy started.

6:13Andy Holloway:uh the getting later players as in like you know sleepers i guess you could it's more of like a what has changed is the the level of informed fantasy football players you know there's still there's still definitely the haves and the have-nots there's the real casuals who i'll have conversations with and you you you know pretty quick like oh we're we're we're not going deep on this conversation we're going to keep it pretty shallow and because they're like who's a sleeper you're like how do you feel about that uh like tooting you're like that's not a sleeper but so i think that's really where it gets hard is finding the edge in those players that can break out because you have you know we did it on our uh our sleeper show i brought up pat bright which is like that's really long odds but to truly find a sleeper in today's fantasy football with with the informed crew you gotta go to a player where you're like Like this is right now it seems impossible.

7:15Jason Moore:Yeah. You know, one of the biggest things that has changed over the last decade is grammar. Grammar never has been the same. People have just gotten so much smarter and ADP over time is just so much more accurate year after year after year. We have learned from our mistakes. We see how we're paying more attention to team makeup, to offensive line, to quarterbacks, to wide receivers, all the nerd stuff where ADP gets more and more accurate, where then the strategy is like, okay, if ADP is pretty darn good from front to back, you've got to find the edges. You've got to find the strategy where it's like, and it changes year to year.

8:01Jason Moore:So for instance, this year, that middle round running back, the middle round tight end, I feel like your opportunity cost is probably too great in that for me. I think that's just you've got it. The strategy changes every couple of years. It's not like one thing. It used to be this way, and now it's a totally different way. Late quarterback can be something where a long time ago that was the only way to play. Then it became so in fuego. You know, that was the only way to play where it's like actually now that they're going so late, like grab the best guy in the middle rounds. So you just have to be basically paying attention to what the current trends are.

8:42Mike Wright:The speed at which information is disseminated news injuries is so fast. We've accommodated like most leagues, I would say nearly a hundred percent of leagues back then were not fab. These were like waiver priority and it was open waivers and it was open free agency. And if news broke, you could be the first one to get there.

9:02Andy Holloway:If you had a job on a computer.

9:03Mike Wright:Now you need to accommodate the Twittersphere. You need to accommodate the fact that news gets out there so instantaneously that having daily waivers run, things that equalize a little bit. Oh, man.

9:17Andy Holloway:I remember, look, statute of limitations. I remember driving on the freeway, and you'd get your sleeper alert as so-and-so is out for the year, and you're going 75. You're like, whoop! I got a job to do. I got to put my life on the line because I got to go pick up this backup running back. That's funny. All right, let's talk news.

9:44Mike Wright:News and notes from around the league. For 1 ,960 shows so far, I think the people out there know one thing about us, and it is that we just love talking legal implications of player decisions. It's what I studied to be. Yeah, a fantasy legal expert. Josh Jacobs was formally charged with two misdemeanors related to the May arrest. Tom Pellicero reporting. The charges are formally misdemeanor battery and criminal damage to property. He is scheduled for a court appearance on November 17th. Why is that important? Because the league oftentimes allows the legal process to take place before suspensions take place.

10:25Mike Wright:Under the NFL CBA, the minimum suspension for domestic abuse is six games. That is the minimum. if you listen by the way shout out to drew davenport the absolute authority on giving well-rounded he actually is actual legal advice but i will say this the minimum suspension for domestic abuse is six games in a felony circumstance it doesn't mean the league can't do that but he is not being charged with felonies um the suspension is going to be subject to when the legal process happens when the nfl's review happens and whether or not i mean ultimately this happens in the public eye yep if a video which the reason he was charged is a video was a component of the charges it was a surveillance video of the garage if that video tmz's its way to to the internet the nfl could be in a position where the commissioner's list becomes immediately relevant list yes um but jason i know you also read through the entirety of what davenport and the charges uh the paperwork there so in your estimation where where are you with the situation because drafts this weekend drafts next weekend and really there my eyes have rolled all the way

11:39Jason Moore:into the back of my head for sure uh it is an extremely risky pick you know that what could happen at any time for josh jacobs is a video is leaked uh his hand is pushed the suspension is immediate it could be in the middle of the season that reality exists um drew davenport you got to follow him um on x on unfortunately i mean i wish we didn't have to follow the legal expert for but you you just have to yeah and he really is good um you know the november date he was bringing up the fact that that that does not mean that that's when the nfl will will do its thing the november date is, you know, he'll enter a not guilty plea, wave a speedy trial, ask for, you know, something in January or February.

12:27So if the video doesn't come out, more likely, and what the NFL

12:33Jason Moore:has always done, he won't be suspended for anything this year. So it's really, it's a risky pick. It's one of those things where you could end up getting an insane value on Jacobs because he's going to drop in the draft a couple of rounds uh and you could get him for 17 games and he doesn't miss anything at all uh but at any point in time you could you could have him and you he gets you

12:56Mike Wright:to the fantasy playoffs and boom yeah he's he's gone one of the comments i thought was very insightful from drew davenport was the fact that in most respects this was a good this is sort of a good thing for Jacobs, which you would think, no, it's not. But because the felony thing is not hanging over the circumstance, because if they had enough evidence to prove that they would have charged him with it, like there are some answered questions here for Jacobs in his future in the NFL because of the nature of the charges. Not that it is a good thing that what transpired, obviously, it's just clarity goes a long way in terms of, like, if I had to bet right now, honestly, my bet would be that Jacobs plays, I think, the full season.

13:43Jason Moore:I think so, too. I think he probably misses four games next year. The Chargers were moved from felonies to misdemeanors. They were also not classified as domestic violence, you know, as property damage. And obviously, I don't know what happened.

14:01Mike Wright:I mean, that's another decision fantasy managers can always make, which is, hey, who do you want on your team?

14:06Andy Holloway:Like, Jacobs, he's off my board. Exactly. I was already fading, but it was like, I see a point where if everybody in the league is fading, Josh Jacobs can end up with 10-plus rushing touchdowns again. But at this point, I'm just like, I'm not dealing with it. I was already kind of nervous about his efficiency, and so it's just like someone else can get it. Now the insurance backs in Green Bay, the insurance back is –

14:34Mike Wright:Marshawn, oh my. Marshawn Lloyd, and then in Dynasty Leagues, please make sure Chris Brooks is on a roster.

14:39Jason Moore:He's the real insurance back. He's the insurance back for Marshawn Lloyd.

14:42Mike Wright:Right, and that is, in fact, the starter. Yes, that's what I, yeah. I mean, Marshawn Lloyd is.

14:47Jason Moore:If we think Marshawn Lloyd is going to be able to play a game and exit healthy, I mean, probably wrong.

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14:52Mike Wright:I would say pretty much everybody around Jacobs in ADP, I would take over him. H.N. Jr., Scat, Javante, Brees Hall. No, but I mean, let's move it down the list a little bit. Even if you go further down, I mean, like, Jadarian Price or Josh Jacobs? What are you doing on draft day there?

15:11Jason Moore:Oh, that's a great one. I would – oh, man. Or Tootin or Bucky Irving. That's the area where I can see anyone take –

15:20Mike Wright:I think, you know, decisions in, you know, the moral side, the ethics side, notwithstanding, that's about where I would probably take Jacobs over those guys.

15:29Jason Moore:yeah when i looked at my rankings it was basically the split between i i believe i put him behind price and ahead of like jalen warren so it was like the tear break where he's he's at the end of the goods okay oh let's move on boston globe uh travion henderson should be good to go for week

15:50Mike Wright:one i thought we reported on that yesterday actually well but if we didn't then there you go bears repeating uh isaiah pacheco's knee injury not a concern according to dan campbell that's awesome i think we reported on that yesterday too but now he's dealing with a back end i think all of this news we reported on yesterday that one like popped in we talked about two two out well and jarquist hunter as well so did we we did because i had mentioned the fact that the day before i had made the joke that at least two two outwell's not there

16:18Jason Moore:and then they traded for him yeah i will say that um there were rumors of oh the puka issue and whether this was imminent of some suspension coming in. McVay specifically said this was not anything related to that. He can also lie.

16:36Mike Wright:Yes, they can. We have a fantasy time machine to get to. Let's take a break and jump in.

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17:52Mike Wright:All right, Foot Clan, whether you are on the go or at home, T-Mobile, well, they're built to keep you connected wherever you're scouting your fantasy team. And that on-the-go part, that is important. With America's Best Network, you'll be connected to the latest news and player projections so when you're on the clock, you can draft a winning team. I can think of so many situations where that element of being connected while you're on the go is fundamental to fantasy football success. I'm in the midst of multiple leagues right now where I am responding to trade offers. We are massaging the trade offer.

18:22Mike Wright:We want to make sure that I'm the one that gets the player, not another player manager in our league. So trade offers, when you're on the go, all the news that's breaking so you don't make a mistake. And my favorite thing, maybe I'll mention it. Look, you're sitting and you have a quiet moment somewhere out and about. You want to jump in the UDK. We got the player profiles. You can watch all of those in there with T-Mobile. You can jump in on the player projections and our stat projections and all the 130 ,000 words of content. Again, T-Mobile making that easy to do. Every bit of news. Things are changing all the time.

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19:29Andy Holloway:Marty, you've got to come back with me. Where? Back to the future.

19:44Mike Wright:Well, that's a drop I'd like to be three minutes long. That's my favorite one. Yeah. Was that a new graphic for this year? No, that was last year. Okay. All right, Papa Josh. Papa Josh in the producer seat this morning, like the lead dog. Oh. Which is why this little stream deck over here on the right is not working.

20:07Jason Moore:I was just trying to protect Kyle and Betts.

20:10Mike Wright:From the camera. Were you actually? From the camera. Were you actually trying to take away my ability to go to the Deucer cam? No. Go to the Deucer cam. Hey! Look at those guys. You know what? As just a person who cares about production, I don't like the proportions.

20:24Andy Holloway:Yeah, why is there such a gap between -

20:25Mike Wright:It feels like four people, it should be equal, and they're just like, is Josh gassy this morning?

20:30Jason Moore:I was going to say one of us is gassy.

20:32Mike Wright:Okay.

20:33Andy Holloway:We're all trying to find the guy. There it is. Good old casket face.

20:38Mike Wright:All right, back on the main camera. All right, the premise of this segment, it's a fun one every year. We are attempting to travel forward in time, figure out who this year's version is of certain players that broke out last year and did special things. So we want to look at the factors that made them valuable and these players valuable last year, apply those same filters to this year and try to predict who might be this year's, for example, JSN and things like that. So we'll start with finding the 2026 version of Javante Williams. Okay. This was a player. Let me just remind you. He was drafted as the RB39 last year, finished as the RB11.

21:26Mike Wright:So we're looking for a running back drafted outside the top 24 that is attached to a good offense. that could end up as an RB1, not the RB1, but someone in that top 12.

21:42Jason Moore:Yeah, I think, Andy, you should probably go first. In my opinion, it's— You followed more rules. Well, there was one guy that jumped out as doing—

21:51Mike Wright:It's who I wanted, and you already had him. Okay, he does all the things that Javante represented last year, which is David Montgomery of the Houston Texans, which is like he's kind of been in the league for a while. Yeah, and he's kind of maybe viewed as a little bit boring, and the offense is kind of viewed that way. But here you are on a team that should really be a threat to make a deep run in the playoffs. So they're a good team. They're going to win a lot of games. We want that in fantasy for running backs. Houston themselves sought out a goal line back, committed to David Montgomery. He is drafted outside that top range.

22:27Mike Wright:I mean, last year the Texans converted a league-worst 17 % of their attempts inside the five-yard line. Say what you want about the amount of utility that Woody Marks may have between the 20s. Is anybody doubting who's in the game when they're around the goal line? No. I mean, David Montgomery is that dude. They're favored in six of their first seven games or seven, yeah, six of their first seven games before the bye. To me, Montgomery is this year's Javante Williams.

22:54Jason Moore:Yeah, no, I agree. He fits the bill entirely. My guy doesn't necessarily look real fast.

23:04Andy Holloway:Exactly.

23:04Mike Wright:He's kind of a little clunky. That means to earn the respect over a bunch of weeks. You might not believe one week. It'll be week 12. That is true.

23:14Jason Moore:Yeah, Javante at the beginning of last year is like, oh, that was good. He got all the work.

23:18Mike Wright:No, he's taking more time to get respect than Javante last year.

23:21Andy Holloway:I feel like we got to the every year, at some point we do kind of a – let's redo the first two rounds. and it was like should we i don't remember if javante went those first two rounds i mean do you even feel that about him now javante do you feel like he has the respect now that he deserves

23:37Jason Moore:no he does not no probably not i whenever i look at his adp i still don't want to draft him and yet i go i should he should be higher yes and we love the cowboys offense he's a bell cow back for the the cowboys offense everything uh that made him an rb1 last year so my guy he is not old busted that he's not a veteran that has traveled around. But he fits everything else in the sense that he's on a good offense. It looks like he's going to get all the work. And he's drafted outside the top 24 backs. And that's Jardians. Jadarian Price, rookie running back for the Seattle Seahawks. I mean, he's a later-round drafted guy who seems like he's going to get everything.

24:20Jason Moore:We worried about the passing volume because he had no passing work in his college career. early camp reports and videos and comments from coaches are that he is involved in that and you know i know you got the halani bros out there that george halani is going to be involved all three of them but that's i mean there there were are you kidding me there were kidding me no but last year freaking kidding me think about the cowboys last year no no no there are halani bros there really are i know but my response to them is are you kidding me the only appropriate response last year there were come on man you know the the mafia bros bill maffa and uh phil maffa and jayden blue and jayden blue is like oh he's the explosive bros there's there's just bros everywhere you know i don't i think it's like 25 touches in helani's career this is not a guy who's going to push their first round pick off the field so good offense drafted late that could absolutely finish as an rb1 and sure he is one of the players that i feel like next year you could look back and go like well like duh like yeah oh of course why in the world was he not

25:32Mike Wright:automatically well and not even i mean you you talk about it every year like rookie running backs they are relevant they they are traditionally like multiples in the top 24 like it is something that happens and then you're like oh wait it's the super bowl champs if you go watch hard knocks on the first episode like they have some clips from uh their general manager john schneider talking with somebody in the draft you know look with their draft board up and the draft board's blurred i mean their first conversation is like this is our biggest need so like for the holani bros out there like this is our biggest need ken walker's gone this is our biggest need like they didn't want him to leave they just are moving on mike you've never said anything about this guy no

26:12Andy Holloway:I've never said anything other than just drafting him yesterday.

26:15Mike Wright:These are all in the very similar range, by the way, in drafts. What's crazy is Monty is the lowest of these three right now. ADP for Price is 511. Your guy is 601 and mine is 611.

26:27Andy Holloway:Per the rules, we were looking for a running back drafted outside the top 24, which Jason and I did. We kept to the rules. We did. 25 and 26. We just might have a toenail hanging over where the line is, with Jason's running back 25 and my running back 26. Bashal Tootin of the Jacksonville Jaguars. It's not a sure thing that he's going to be the guy, but this is a situation that I 100 % want to take a chance on. The Jaguars last year at least were a very high-powered offense. Liam Cohen returning. and the new opportunity now with Travis HN Jr. out of the way for a player last year who converted five of his seven carries inside the five for a touchdown among, oh, baby.

27:19Thank you, Kyle.

27:21Andy Holloway:Among 55 qualifying running backs, fifth in rush success rate, which, reminder again, rush success rate is are you getting what you need yardage-wise on that down? so it's not it it's a better way of looking at yards per carry are you getting what you need and he was fifth fifth in percent of yards after contact because he is a truly explosive athlete and he was tied with Brees Hall for 11th in forced missed tackle rate this is a team that I I want to I want to bet on who will the the guy be Crod is there Chris Rodriguez and uh that's the goal line variable yes and and laquint allen is the the receiving back variable i think when it comes to it that it will end up being bashal tootin being like the the guy there where last year it was the the start the the initial depth chart was listed hann jr or tank bigsby is the starter and they were so locked into that that they said we're we don't need you anymore tank we're just going to have be hn junior br full-time guy i think that isn't in the range of outcomes for tootin who's not being drafted as a top 24 guy where a top 12 player is in his ceiling ironically

28:35Jason Moore:though last year i think you were more on the tank side i was you know that he was better than etn so maybe they'll be like see you later tootin then hey things could happen yeah no right yeah

28:48Andy Holloway:I still think Tank's better.

28:51Mike Wright:All right. So we found some candidates. I do, too. Oh, wow.

28:58Jason Moore:Yes, Jason. I want Tank to. It's just such a shame. I feel like. You're talking about my guy last year? Yes. That's who we're talking. Just one year early.

29:07Mike Wright:This whole gag you're doing, you know what really sucks about it? It's not. On the show, it's funny. Yeah. The problem is, is now the comments. It's like, Travo's now my guy. Even better. In a bunch of times. Even better. And I think some people are not sure if it's a truth or a lie. It's true.

29:23Andy Holloway:Okay. But here's the thing for your perspective, Andy, is you have four shots at my guys. Yeah. It really works for you.

29:31Jason Moore:If Tank Bigsby does something great this year or Henderson does something great. You're not going to claim that?

29:37Mike Wright:I would. Gosh. I guess that's better than giving Jason credit. Yeah. All right. Finding the 2026 Trevor Lawrence. so what made him great last year looking at uh horse boy uh insane second half run made him in every week start his adp last year was qb 21 ended up as the quarterback for uh we're looking for a quarterback drafted outside the top 12 so that's prerequisite number one either upgraded options in terms of weapons or a change at offensive coordinator liam cohen making the big impact there and maybe runs enough to be a fantasy difference maker at least fill in some of the gap right you want somebody that can that doesn't have to Peyton Manning right you you can right you can fill in some of the gap with the legs am I going first again no I'll hop in okay because I

30:24Jason Moore:I didn't like mine filling in last get it out of the way but I like mine this this oh you do yeah I do I I because of the tumult of the offseason and step out for this one do I have to be a You can at least take your ears out so you don't have to hear it. Kyler Murray, the new quarterback for the Minnesota Vikings, is I think a much better fantasy pick. He's currently being drafted as the quarterback 17. He is mobile. He rushes well. 55 % of all of his 82 career starts have been top 12 quarterback performances. Now you've got a change of scenery. Now you've got an upgraded offensive mind. I mean, when he had Cliff Kingsbury, he was really, really good for fantasy.

31:11Jason Moore:Things got worse and worse as his career went on, as he got injured. He is now a year removed from the ACL injury. He has Justin Jefferson and a great receiving core. He has a really good offensive mind. And I don't think he's done. He's certainly not like an age where you're like, well, he can't play anymore. So I think he's dumb.

31:35Jason Moore:nice i said d you in oh oh yes done done um so where he's being drafted right now in the 13th round is the quarterback 17 it feels he can easily when i look at the late round quarterbacks who could pop into the you know be a top six option he is one of a few that just easily stand out to me is I can totally see how that happens.

32:01Andy Holloway:Yeah, I totally agree. It's difficult, though, of it's been. I don't want to agree. It's been a long time since Kyler Murray has done that. You might be right, but I don't want to. And, yes, he has, you know, you can say, okay, the skill position players at Minnesota are better than what he had in Arizona because Jefferson is that great. he at least I mean he had Trey McBride and he had Jerry Rice on the team he just didn't throw him the ball and and last year you know in his five healthy games he was averaging 35 rushing yards a game and yet never finished as a top 15 quarterback like he was giving you he gave you a baseline of rushing and the other stuff was just so not there statistically that he wasn't anything more than a QB too.

32:54Mike Wright:I mean, he fits all the, he fits all the like characteristics of somebody who, if he just plays competently, he's pretty good for fantasy. Uh, but when you said that like 55 % of his games, he was above this mark. I was like, and we're 92 % of those his first half of his career. It's just, what is the true Kyler Murray now? Obviously they made the decision early. Like this is going to be the dude. Yeah. And I think Jefferson said, this is going to be the

33:19Jason Moore:dude I remember us watching film it's it's so hard to remember like going week by week last last year when Kyler was playing a couple weeks into the season a month five weeks into the season we kept watching this Arizona Cardinals scheme and seeing them basically try to get the ball to Marvin Harrison except they just ran him down the field so long where he didn't turn around you remember watching this Andy and it was like what are we doing like you're not scheming anyone open

33:47Andy Holloway:you're you're you didn't have someone to pass to you're more of a uh like a petzing blaming of

33:53Jason Moore:kyle murray you think that the kevin o 'connell fixes it i do i do i really do i honestly i think we have so much history of arizona cardinals players who are good who flame out here go to someone else that you know to another team and they're like oh wow they're they're really really good um the cardinals organization is not a serious organization agreed i thought you thought

34:17Andy Holloway:it was uh i have never thought that how dare we think they're unserious all right i'm jumping in unfortunately a jordan tyson injury has made me have to at least pull back a bit of my love for for tyler shuck but i think that he's the answer to this question if you you know especially if you're like hey second half if Jordan Tyson is back by the second half then oh my gosh I'm going to be very interested in Tyler Shuck who is being drafted as the quarterback 22 despite last year weeks 14 through 18 and like and remember Tyler Shuck didn't start playing until you know like halfway through the year weeks 14 through 18 so we're talking a five game span to end the season completing 70 % of his passes, giving you 27 rushing yards per game.

35:10Andy Holloway:That's not an elite level, but that's perfectly fine. Give you a nice little boost to the floor. And he was averaging 20 fantasy points per game, which all that stuff I talked about at Kyler Murray, he never hit 20 in that time period last year for the Arizona Cardinals. Among 28 rookie quarterbacks over the past five years who qualify, so they have had 100 or more pass attempts. second in completion rate, fourth in passing yards per game, sixth in yards per attempt, and he's got Kellen Moore who kicks the pace up. We get extra plays. He did all of this stuff without Jordan Tyson. He still has Olave.

35:46Andy Holloway:He still has Jawanson at the beginning of the season to be what I would assume is the number two weapon. And then if Jordan Tyson can get back, I think that Tyler Shuck becomes that a quarterback waiver wire pickup that someone picks up week six or so for a streaming option and you're like oh that was pretty good oh that was pretty good and then we just ride it till the end of the season I believe so much in in the prospect of Tyler Shuck becoming a

36:15Mike Wright:a true franchise quarterback well it would be fun I mean we need some new icons of the quarterback position for the next 10 years and I'd love to see that team and Kellen Moore and those receivers have that talent uh you know the the schedule looks all right and i i'll be curious

36:32Jason Moore:they are such a fun offense i really hope it works out because just like you're saying indy it's like be so good for the nfl to look at the saints as like oh i want a piece of that i am going with

36:45Mike Wright:baker mayfield as my pick here for the okay uh 2026 version of trevor lawrence who in my opinion Trevor Lawrence might have been. He was reverse Trevor Lawrence last year. I was going to say, Trevor Lawrence might have been the 2025 version of Baker Mayfield. That's what's funny about it. Baker was the quarterback three in 2024. He also ran for 378 yards. He also had Liam Cohen. Remember last offseason, you're like, he's not running for that amount of yards again. Yeah, he did. I mean, he did. He ran for more. He ran for 382 yards. I think you can look at Baker and understand that this guy is going to take off.

37:20Mike Wright:He is shiftier than he looks and finds his way down the field. I mean, he literally ran for more yards per attempt. That's good because he kind of looks like a potato. I know. A slippery potato, though. Yeah, I mean, it's been peeled. A slippery potato, Baker Mayfield. But look, he has that capability. Baker was the quarterback for last year through the first six weeks. Oh. So he was right back on. He was the MVP candidate. it then you get evans injury a book injury baker injury line injuries and it fell apart and you know you've got baker playing i mean who wears their emotions and their grudges on their shoulder more than baker mayfield yeah well he's great he's presently disrespected and undervalued and

38:04Jason Moore:not under contract for next season and week one matchup at cincinnati 51 and a half over under

38:11Mike Wright:I think these guys are going to, I mean, maybe he just takes it back. You know, if he was, if Lawrence was the 2024 Baker, then Baker might be the 2026 Lawrence. That is my pick for the fantasy time machine.

38:24Jason Moore:So I like it.

38:25Mike Wright:We will take one more break here and then we're going to try to find the 2026 version of Jerry Rice.

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40:06Mike Wright:All right, we're back.

40:07Andy Holloway:I thought the 2026 Jerry Rice was Devontae Adams, according to your post.

40:14Mike Wright:I might, after acquiring Devontae Adams in one of our leagues, point out the statistical numbers for a 33-year-old Jerry Rice. You still feeling good about that? I am feeling good about Adams, not those numbers. But I'm feeling good about Adams because I just, if he's healthy, I don't know how he doesn't score a bunch. whether he's great elsewhere. But no, the 2026 Jerry Rice, Mike, I don't know if you remember, it's this guy named Michael Wilson. I do remember. Of the Arizona Cardinals. So, you know, you're looking at a non-rookie wide receiver that was buried on a depth chart for years. Could break out in 2026.

40:51Mike Wright:You can't know. I'll go last. You can't do this to my heart. I don't even know who Jason picked. I'll get mine out of the way. Okay. Don't look at the top. Because I feel like mine fits the mold for... Yours is the best. I'm not going to scroll down because I don't want to know who Jason's is. Yeah, this is non rookie wide receiver buried in the depth chart could break out if given opportunity, but has never really done it. Last year, Michael Wilson was undrafted finishes the wide receiver 11 the name I'm going to bring up. You like mine, Jason?

41:18Jason Moore:I do. I literally went in the doc to put in this name.

41:21Mike Wright:So Monty Monty and yeah, that's good. It's Jalen Coker wide receiver for the Carolina Panthers. basically undrafted if not if he's drafted his 13th 14th round did you know that he had four top 24 finishes in his final seven games jalen coker he's a very very good player and he's back and he's healthy and he was rewarded with a three-year contract extension a lot of you are like who is that because our producer may have said his name wrong at one point in time but But Jalen Coker, he's just one of those guys you watch play. Change the vowel sound. Yeah, I've learned vowels are very – Yeah, they're pretty important.

42:00Mike Wright:Vowels are effective when it comes to what impact they have on speech. I think that Jalen Coker is going to be an every down player all year long. He's always shown the talent. He's dealt with injuries. He's completely undrafted. And if the – I know Bryce Young is there, but look, Nobody expected what happened last year with Michael Wilson. That's the point, right? You don't expect the math to math. But I think Jalen Coker has a chance to be that super – this is what you're talking about at the top about what kind of sleepers you have to find now. Yes. You need to find a guy who, you know, almost 100 % probability is that he fails.

42:38Mike Wright:Right. But I think Coker is a really talented player, and I think the team bought in, and they realized what he represents to the depth chart, and we'll see what happens with McMillan moving around in the slot. But, like, Coker is competitive. Like, at the point of attack, at the catch, like, he's a big dude. I love him. By the way, 12 targets, 9 for 1, 34 and 1 in the playoff game they almost won against the Rams.

43:00Jason Moore:If Bryce were to step up and continue progressing through his young career, I believe Coker would be very good.

43:09Andy Holloway:Yeah, when you're looking at late-round shots, like, it helps when you feel like the player's good.

43:16Jason Moore:Yes, I think that's the most important part. Because there's late-round guys who are like, that guy stinks. That's a huge part of my argument. So you're up, Mike. I don't know if you think your guy is good or stinks.

43:29Andy Holloway:But I'm going to go with, hey, look, another guy I drafted at the end, the very, very end of yesterday's mock draft, Dontavian Wicks, who is going even later than Jalen Coker in drafts. I see an ADP of a wide receiver, 73. three. Wicks has had some issues, you know, catching the ball. Yeah. When he was over there on the green Bay Packers, he was traded to the Philadelphia Eagles where it looks like he is locked in as a starter, the beat reporters. He has locked down the number two spot opposite Devante Smith, Saquon Barkley. Wicks is a steal. I don't know how we got him. And then Nick Sirianni, the way they are off the line of scrimmage, the way they are at the top of the route, the way they are with the ball with the hands.

44:16Andy Holloway:It reminds me of, oh, Keenan Allen. This is, and they're all talking about Dontavia and Wicks, who when he's been on the field, yes, the catching has been a little bit of a bugaboo, which is not great for a wide receiver. But the targets have been there because the guy just gets open. Targets per route run.

44:34Mike Wright:We've had plenty of hyped waiver wire weeks where Wicks was the pickup. Didn't deliver as much as we hoped, but there was a reason for it.

44:42Andy Holloway:Yeah, because the talent. Because targets per route run 23 % in 23, 30 % in 24, 21 % in 2025. For context, over the last three years, he's been targeted on a per-route basis more frequently than Zay Flowers, Christian Watson, and George Pickens. Like, this guy has gotten the targets. He was not ready for his opportunity. What if he is? What if he's ready for the opportunity now with A.J. Brown out of town and being the true number two where Makai Lemon is, that's the sexy player. That's the first round pick. He slithers around.

45:22Mike Wright:Stowers and Lemon, like we talk about hype trains in the offseason. Oh, Stowers is. If a hype train could go backwards, the Lemon-Stowers combination of replacements for A.J. Brown. It's just derailment. Yes. What they've done this offseason is to make me like Dontabian Wicks and Dallas Goddard. That's what those two guys have done. Yeah.

45:37Andy Holloway:Which there's still hope for Lemon. For sure. But when you miss so much of camp, those are really, really important reps for a player that's never played in the NFL. I think, Lemon, it will take more time. And in that period of time, Wicks could emerge and be a true threat for this team. So I like him at the end of your draft.

46:03Jason Moore:All right. My turn. I saw it. Oh, you did? I looked. You ruined it. I know. Come on. That way I can keep my stomach contents. If we would have said last year, Michael Wilson will have a breakout, it would have been like, what are you talking about? This guy has done nothing. Good start to this one. He's done nothing. You would have been like, he's crazy for saying that. I went team by team and looked at every single depth chart to try to figure out. I love this, but I hate it. To try to figure out who could, you know. Don't give me hope. You truly emerge as a team's wide receiver one. That is unexpected.

46:42Jason Moore:That is not. And the truth is most teams have such a stud at wide receiver or at least such a solidified guy that, you know, the Cardinals last year, we had hope. Oh, Marvin Harrison is maybe he will be it.

46:57Mike Wright:Mike, Mike, if he can get through this without ever saying the name, he's in good shape. Well, he's got to set it up. I got to set this up. I know, but maybe never say it and just close the show out.

47:06Jason Moore:I went team by team to try to see which situation could have someone surprising emerge. And the team that stood out to me was the Raiders. Makes total sense. I mean, you got your Trey McBride and Brock Bowers. And you were like Jalen Naylor for sure. I was. I put Jalen Naylor in. Oh, did you really? I really did. I was like, the team makes sense. And then I was like, dude, he's just not. He's too good. Jalen Naylor's just not good enough. We have seen enough of him to know he's not that dude. Trey Tucker, then, I was like, let me look at him. He's got his flashes, but he's a bitty baby boy. He's not going to actually emerge.

47:46Jason Moore:But you know who I think is a good wide receiver? Yeah. Jack Besh, baby. What did he say? What did he say? Jack Besh. I mean, it's good that Kyle giggling in the back. Yeah. I recognize this is insane brother there's insane and then there's what you're doing right now you wouldn't have to do this I'm doing it I really do think that if the opportunity is given to Jack Besh but that's what Michael Wilson needed Michael Wilson

48:20Mike Wright:didn't have the opportunity

48:22Jason Moore:when Marvin Harrison got injured he was forced into that opportunity if Jack Besh is given the opportunity and plays snaps. I mean, he's basically solidified his role. Kyle can't stop laughing.

48:35Mike Wright:This would be amazing if we ended the show on a slow fade, like down to no volume right now. Jason just keeps talking about Jack Besh till we fade out.

48:43Jason Moore:He's a much better fit in Kubiak's system. Beat reporters saying he has won the starting slot role. Jason was doing work from the slot last year. And the truth is, I think Besh is a good player. I was never out. Mike and I love Jack Bess as a collegiate player. But, hey. You know, we'll see if he can get on the field. It's obviously a very deep. You don't like Malik Benson over there? No. I can see it. I think Jack Bess could come out of nowhere.

49:16Andy Holloway:I mean, what a great chance to victory lap this someday. Yeah. On the show, on the exact show. This is Jason. where we were is that this is cnn joke no oh okay um where the exact show where we were kind of uh poking fun at the george halani bros yes we got the best bro the best well i mean you and we in fact are no i'm betts is in there too but yeah he is like we are the entirety we are the best bros it's the four of us it's just the hand full of decision you've made it's it's just us in this building we will keep believing until he is out of the league um give him the opportunity which is probably next year more okay i'm gonna put you i'm gonna put

50:02Mike Wright:you on on the spot for a real tough question mike oh gersh we were talking about we did a show 10 years ago right so 10 years from now we look back from from today and we say to ourselves who has more career receptions been senator jack besh oh to this point no from here on out oh i

50:20Andy Holloway:me the numbers of what's actually happened. It's a prediction. He's like, let me look. Well, no, no. I wasn't going to look, but I was going to say off the top of my head.

50:29Mike Wright:End of their careers. Who will finish with more receptions? Which player has more total receptions? Easy peasy. It's Besh.

50:37Jason Moore:Of course it's Besh.

50:38Andy Holloway:It's Jack Besh.

50:39Jason Moore:He's the Besh man can do. I thought you were going to

50:44Andy Holloway:give me the 10-year question. I was like, oh, that's easy.

50:47Mike Wright:Drake May. The current head-to-head numbers, I have them. I don't even know. Jack Batch with 20 total career receptions. Oh, that's more than Ben. And Ben Sennett with 16 total receptions.

51:00Andy Holloway:I am the same. You're not counting. Didn't he have a catch? I think there's a term limit for that senator.

51:06Mike Wright:I don't think it's going to happen. We have a live show tonight, so bold predictions episode tomorrow, ballerslive.com. Upcoming shows. Get ready for Ben Sennett projections. Final preseason takeaways. Roster cut news. players were afraid to be wrong about. A final mock draft next week. An MVP, that's right, a fantasy MVP episode with tons of special guests sharing their fantasy football MVPs. That's coming next week as well. So much going on right now. Make sure you're prepped up for your draft with the Ultimate Draft Kit at ultimatedraftkit.com. It has mock draft tools this year, and we'd love to see you in the Megalobowl at megalobowl.com.

51:43Mike Wright:Otherwise, we're going to say goodbye and save the voices because we've got a live show to do tonight. It is time for the Megalist Show this evening, and we'll catch you on Monday. Goodbye.

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