In short
Fantasy Footballers mock draft (12-team half PPR) plus preseason injury/news takeaways and draft strategy.
Guests
Hosts Andy Holloway, Jason Moore, and Mike Wright (Mike “the Fantasy Hitman”). No additional guest interviewees mentioned in the transcript.
Key claims and notable examples
- Preseason results: Cincinnati offense looked fine after a strong showing; Philadelphia’s backup QB performance included a “backup defense getting pummeled” scenario (24 points allowed). Jamar Chase remains a fantasy-positive.
- Seattle: Jalen Milrow looked fast and threw with “steam,” making him intriguing for Dynasty if Sam Darnold falters.
- Injury/role notes: Tyler Warren played every starter snap with many targets; Taj Brooks looked physical and is expected back quickly; Torrey Horton could be an outside WR starter.
- News: Anthony Richardson’s dislocated throwing pinky (x-rays clean) and Rashawn Slater’s patellar tendon tear (out for year) are major fantasy/roster impacts.
- Draft examples: Mock picks include Jamar Chase 1.01, Bijan Robinson, Jameer Gibbs, Derek Henry, Malik Nabers, Trey McBride, and a later Laporta selection; strategy debates include “zero RB,” QB/TE value, and avoiding overreacting to third-down RB usage.
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Chapters
Tap a time to open that second in VOPreseason Insights and Mock Draft Excitement
0:00 to 0:28
The hosts discuss preseason takeaways and the excitement of the mock draft.
“If you're an NFL fan, ESPN is where you need to be this season.”
Preseason Insights and Mock Draft Excitement
1:06 to 2:28
The hosts discuss preseason takeaways and the excitement of the mock draft.
“The Fantasy Footballers, Friday, August 8th.”
Analyzing Player Performances
2:28 to 4:36
Detailed discussion on rookie players, including their potential impacts.
“They gave up 24 points to a backup quarterback that looked like Joe Montana for two quarters?”
Injury Updates and their Implications
4:36 to 7:01
The hosts share updates on injuries and how they affect team strategies.
In-Depth News and Notes
9:55 to 14:00
Host discussions on recent player news and its effect on fantasy football.
“All right, let's go ahead and jump right into some more news.”
Injury Updates and Player Discussions
14:00 to 19:02
The hosts discuss recent player injuries and their implications for the upcoming season.
“back left practice uh there was some concern he ended up uh getting tests and it ended up being a bone bruise in his heel that's very good news yeah they thought it was a bad ankle injury and this should be okay.”
Injury Updates and Player Discussions
19:04 to 19:43
The hosts discuss recent player injuries and their implications for the upcoming season.
“I was going to say, if I'm like a seventh round rookie, you know, on that, just not a very large NFL lucrative deal, I have a black market available.”
Injury Updates and Player Discussions
19:46 to 19:58
The hosts discuss recent player injuries and their implications for the upcoming season.
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12-Team Half PPR Mock Draft
19:59 to 21:28
The hosts dive into a mock draft, discussing strategies, player choices, and analysis.
“If you're an NFL fan, ESPN is where you need to be this season.”
12-Team Half PPR Mock Draft
21:33 to 28:00
The hosts dive into a mock draft, discussing strategies, player choices, and analysis.
“All right, we are going to jump into a 12-team half PPR mock draft.”
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Mock Draft Strategy and Player Analysis
28:00 to 34:11
Listen as the hosts discuss their mock draft strategies, player picks, and concerns about various players' situations.
“stafford mike goes with a chan and which kyle made that decision for me it was for me being on the clock with Nico as my first pick.”
Examining Draft Picks and Team Composition
34:11 to 40:05
The hosts analyze their picks and discuss the implications of their selections on team composition and strategy.
“So Tyreek does go next, putting Jason on the clock.”
Injury Concerns and Value Picks
40:05 to 42:00
The discussion continues on injury concerns of players and identifying potential value picks in the later rounds of the draft.
“I'm going to have to add some probably some veteran starters later in the draft.”
Draft Strategies and Player Insights
42:00 to 44:35
Discussion on player health, draft strategies, and player choices during mock drafts.
“If you're in the middle, you know, if you're near the turn, go ahead and play the ADP game and be like, okay, J.K.”
Mock Draft Picks and Analysis
44:35 to 46:48
Analyzing player selections and discussing the importance of drafting based on real-time decisions.
“I'm going to have to add some depth there.”
Mock Draft Picks and Analysis
46:52 to 47:52
Analyzing player selections and discussing the importance of drafting based on real-time decisions.
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Evaluating Draft Picks and Strategies
47:58 to 50:09
Continuing the mock draft with discussions on player choices and positional strategies.
“I got, well, I guess I'm not totally balanced.”
Late Round Selections and Team Balance
50:09 to 56:00
Final selections in the mock draft, focusing on balancing team composition and player potential.
“I'm going to double tap the wide receiver position here.”
Mock Draft Analysis and Player Picks
56:00 to 1:01:42
Listeners will learn about player selections and strategies in a mock draft.
“The two options, Justin Fields, reports are not great, but other than the Bears, we did see some of what it could become.”
Transcript
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1:05Jason Moore:Welcome to the Fantasy Footballers Podcast with your hosts, Andy Holloway, Jason Moore, and Mike Wright.
1:23Mike Wright:Welcome in.
1:32Mike Wright:The Fantasy Footballers, Friday, August 8th. Thrilled to be with you. Mike, the fantasy hitman, is here. Jason Moore.
1:43Jason Moore:Hello.
1:45Mike Wright:and I'm Andy Holloway excited for a mock draft episode today we'll catch you up on the latest news and notes in the fantasy football world we've got some preseason football to
1:59Jason Moore:huge takeaways
2:00Mike Wright:briefly discuss I mean we had some games last night so that's fun, that's exciting and we had some starters playing for those of you enthusiastically hoping for kind of a repeat situation in Cincinnati for the offense to have to carry everything. I think you will be comforted by what took place last night. An entire starting defense getting pummeled by an entire backup situation in Philadelphia. We'd love to see that. Trey Hendrickson, did your leverage go up?
2:31Andy Holloway:I don't know if it actually does. Do they care?
2:34Mike Wright:They gave up 24 points to a backup quarterback that looked like Joe Montana for two quarters?
2:40Andy Holloway:Does the ownership actually care? that is unknown but along with the defense being what we hope for fantasy jamar chase remains good
2:51Mike Wright:just so good at football yeah just so good he's he's pretty athletic yeah he really is we were talking was it yesterday about the the odds of repeating and we hadn't had one since antonio brown like as the number one wide receiver like it really it feels set up it really could It could happen this year, but injuries always, you know, they get involved in things like that. But I thought Jalen Milrow, that was one of the takeaways for me. Like, I thought he looked really good for Seattle.
3:23Jason Moore:Fast, really fast. Yeah, every time he ran, he was so much faster than all the defenders.
3:29Mike Wright:And the way he threw the football, too, like there is some – you talked about Bazooka Joe. I mean, there is some steam on those throws. He's kind of Cam Newton-esque in that sense where Cam Newton just laser beams all over the field when he broke into the league. Sam Darnold obviously the starter there, but it seems like it's nice to see these rookies get opportunities on the field.
3:51Andy Holloway:Milo is fascinating for Dynasty. In the draft season, we talked about that. Yes, for a quarterback, there's no draft capital there. There is a starter who has the bag in front of him. but if looking around the 32 situations that's one where it could it could disintegrate real fast underneath Sam Darnold and all of a sudden Milrow starting and if Milrow is starting he becomes Milrow's place oh at that point no at that point it's Milrow's place I like it would be I
4:24Jason Moore:like Joe Milton the third I think he's a legitimate like if he had a starting opportunity I think he'd be okay but he's not going to outplay Dak for a starting role if Darnold goes you know two and four to start the season and is struggling you could absolutely see a you know a replacement
4:39Mike Wright:happen I do think I don't think they would happen that quick no no maybe not this year maybe not a
4:44Jason Moore:few games in but certainly I if he is playing bad football I mean if if Darnold comes out and just looks like trash and he's the problem for the Seahawks I do think that a switch could be made
4:57Mike Wright:if they've got a backup that is looking good yeah Russell Wilson was the pick uh 75 pick 75 overall for Seattle right and Milrow 92
5:06Andy Holloway:the Matt Flynn era
5:09Mike Wright:oh yeah they signed him to a big
5:11Jason Moore:chunk of money different regime
5:13Mike Wright:the similarities there but yeah one preseason game does not a career make who else Tyler
5:19Jason Moore:Warren to me was a big story in the sense that he played every snap with the starters he had a ton of first rate targets obviously you didn't have the primary Downs didn't play Pittman didn't play but it was really nice to see Richardson didn't really play oh man goodness gracious yeah Richardson took a defender to the face or to the fingy um both yeah both he got the fingy took the
5:45Mike Wright:brunt of the damage but yeah I mean this is he got took a will will Levis like hit I don't know
5:51Jason Moore:how you get blindsided on the non-blind side but he did you know what's funny is I saw someone just this morning posted that that play reminded them of rookie Andrew Luck and there was almost an identical play where Andrew Luck I mean the guy is coming it's like not your blind side it's your it's it's just turn your head a little forward and the the massive human pummeling down on you and it was it really was like identical he took a shellacking right to the front of your body
6:21Andy Holloway:I'm not a quarterback I've never played quarterback so I can't pretend but I would imagine a snap is somewhat like turning left in your car before you turn left you always do a yeah the quick double check like that's
6:36Mike Wright:you know the oncoming traffic that's what I'm most concerned about but you're still not gonna pull out without check I'm gonna take a little peek at the other side just real quick I think I think that is a lot easier to do the further you are in your career I mean I a lot of what happens when you you simplify things for a quarterback with accuracy issues is you cut the field in half. And it felt like he did not know a right side of the field existed on that play. And he ended up with the dislocated finger. We got to see a lot of Taj Brooks. Will he need surgery on that? No. No. He'll be back in practice this week.
7:07Andy Holloway:Yeah. They said it'll be fast.
7:08Mike Wright:The, you know, saw Taj Brooks play for Cincinnati. Got a lot of snaps, not any big plays, but really physical runner. I thought he looked okay. Were you concerned? Torrey Horton in Seattle as well. Oh yeah. That was pretty exciting.
7:22Jason Moore:He looked good. He could very well be the starting outside wide receiver from day one. We've talked a lot about how JSN and Cooper Cup have both been primarily slot receivers. Someone's going to have to move to the outside, but you're probably not going to have both of them on the outside, which means there is a role for Horton who has been good through training camp. You look for those consistent messages where it's like this guy has been doing good and then he looks good in preseason, so he certainly fits the bill. any concern of p ryan p ryan came and he took the third down work from the starter yeah yeah a little bit um yeah i mean that's just that's part of the game like that doesn't
8:01Mike Wright:scare me off of chase brown at all no no me neither me neither i think he's uh
8:08Jason Moore:p ryan is p ryan yeah you know that's one of his weaknesses the only concern i have because we've talked about, I think we just talked about it a little bit more on the Dynasty podcast if you listen to that episode, but third down utilization for running backs is so overblown. It actually doesn't it's first and second down. Even the passing work is first and second down primarily if you look at the data. However, what does play in is the two minute drill. So that's where I want to see, I pray Pirine is not the two minute drill guy. Don't do that. Cincinnati, do not do that.
8:41Mike Wright:That would be weird. Do you want a bad two-minute drill? That's your way. That's your way to do it. Right, exactly, yeah. So, yeah, no, it's a worthy warning there. Reminder, the last thing, Keaton Mitchell.
8:54Andy Holloway:Looked healthy. He's healthy. I mean, he's still, you know.
8:58Jason Moore:It would take an injury to Derrick Henry to be relevant, but should that happen, he has the juice that we saw two years ago. Yeah, the Ravens running back, by the way.
9:06Mike Wright:All right, some quick preseason takeaways. we've got the ultimate draft kit available at ultimate draft kit.com. Go check that out. The new value scout tool is a part of that. If you are new to the show and you don't know what the UDK is about, it's all of our player projections. We update it all off season. It's a living, breathing resource for your drafts. We've got the sleepers, breakouts, bus values, a hundred plus player profile videos that get updated as well. And you can check that out. The rankings include risk and upside meters. So they're all tiered. Yep. all tiered rankings and a ton of other resources.
9:41Mike Wright:Very proud of the way the apps have turned out this year. A lot of upgrades over there. So if you've, you know, if you've gotten the UDK before, you haven't tried it in a while, definitely check that out. Android, iOS, on the web, ultimatedraftkit.com. All right, let's go ahead and jump right into some more news.
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10:00Jason Moore:News and notes from around the league presented by Progressive Insurance.
10:06Mike Wright:well just to uh finish the thought on anthony richardson it was uh dislocated right
10:14Jason Moore:throwing pinky finger is there a chance this could be a rookie of the year situation here and all of a sudden he's accurate it's like because of the pinky yeah like the pinky was the problem and now that it's been dislocated he's just on the money no i would say that's
10:29Mike Wright:more in the line of pulling a toe. Pulling a toe? Which is what you guys brought up for Malik Neighbors. Like pulling a toe off. Your solution for Malik Neighbors was to tie his toe to a door and slam the door.
10:42Andy Holloway:Well, because it's been a long-term problem. This is a short-term problem. Thank you, Mike. We bring solutions to the table.
10:48Jason Moore:Pretty obvious.
10:49Andy Holloway:The thing, if Richardson... By the way, x-rays are clean. He'll be back at practice. Just to walk through it real quick, Jay, if his pinky came back super strong and you're throwing, I think you're not going to spiral anymore. I think you're going to throw. The pinky will snap, and then you're just going to get end over end throws. You're saying it snaps every throw? I'm saying if his pinky came back.
11:08Mike Wright:No, I think you get super spiral. Oh, do you? I think you get super spiral. But what if it's – Remember you've never played quarterback? You think it's like driving a car? Remember that? Yeah. Yeah, you get super spiral.
11:17Andy Holloway:Do you have a super strong pinky? Andy's pinky is so strong. My pinky is – Okay, I stand corrected.
11:22Mike Wright:People have talked about my pinky before.
11:27Jason Moore:Next. Okay, moving on. Let's talk about Rashawn Slater.
11:34Mike Wright:Rashawn Slater, this is devastating news for the Chargers, unlike a number of fronts. So Rashawn Slater just signed a four-year, over$100 million, highest paid offensive lineman in the history of the NFL deal. Good for you, man. This is why. And he tore his patellar tendon. I believe the number, percentage-wise, it's like 70 % of players that Tara Patella tendin do not return to form ever. So you just sign the... It's much worse than an ACL. Oh, much worse. So Rashawn Slater is out for the year. This is a Chargers offensive line that looked like it would be one of the best in the league. It is still, I think, pretty good.
12:16Mike Wright:But Joe Ault, the rookie, he's going to have to come over and play left tackle where Rashawn Slater was playing. And you're going to move some pieces around, and it's going to throw that influx and injuries suck. I mean, it's...
12:29Jason Moore:Yeah, it's really sad. I was just talking up the Chargers offense, how they look like someone that's going to be extraordinarily hard to stop. Obviously, the easiest way to stop an offense is pass rush and get through an offensive line. I don't think this is devastating for the offense in the sense that they don't go to a bottom offensive line where now they're not going to be able to protect or run the ball. it's just it takes a little bit of the edge away from the upside case lad mcconkey still not
12:58Mike Wright:practicing it was it's an undisclosed injury he has not practiced since the 28th secret the 28th of july keep it safe yeah i did you see the first rep run by keenan allen in practice by the way i did not no please tell me it was awesome brother please tell me it was awesome no no no it's not about the rep it's about the fact that when he did an outbreaking route and caught the pass the next thing he had to do on the field was leap over a water cooler that was in the middle of the field you're sitting there going there's a veteran wide receiver he runs a rep he cuts out left he catches the ball and when he turns his head there is a humongous gatorade cooler in the middle of the field that he has to leap over and we're like get it get it off the field you're just sitting in the middle of the field that's next level that's could have annihilated someone put that out
13:43Jason Moore:immediately just to prove how good he was yeah trey harris put that down there well he can still jump so um yeah yeah mcconkey had his upper leg wrapped so it's some soft tissue issue uh yeah
13:54Mike Wright:he hasn't practiced since the 28th jaden blue who was making waves in cowboys camp rookie running back left practice uh there was some concern he ended up uh getting tests and it ended up being a bone bruise in his heel that's very good news yeah they thought it was a bad ankle injury and
14:12Jason Moore:this should be okay.
14:14Mike Wright:Jake Ferguson also left practice back contusion recently extended Jake Ferguson.
14:19Jason Moore:Yeah. Do we have to worry about other recently extended players here?
14:23Mike Wright:Yeah. If you signed a recent contract, yeah, maybe that's something to be worried about. Tyree Kael stay safe. Yeah. Tyree Kael dealing with an oblique injury. That was the, we knew it was an undisclosed injury. He had missed time. He's not in pads today. Mike McDaniel finally said it It was an oblique. It's not been a good offseason for Tyreek Hill. No. So for, you know, if vibes, which, you know, we like, we do shows five days a week. Vibes come into the equation. I run my life on vibes. Yeah. So not good vibes. I mean, he's not, he doesn't have the trust of his locker room right now. And he had a really bad year and he said he was going to be out.
15:03Mike Wright:So you do wonder about a player like that at this stage of his career. Are they mentally going to be fully engaged for the season?
15:10Jason Moore:I mean, he'll turn 32 this year. So that is, you know, you're getting to the age where if your athleticism takes a step back, a lot of excuses were made last year for the wrist issue. You know, it's like, oh, he had a wrist injury. Now, he played 17 games, but he had an injury. Maybe that was why the statistics were down. So you don't love seeing, well, he's got an oblique injury this year.
15:34Mike Wright:No, it's not good. But he's been sort of slipping down my rankings for the last couple of weeks. Just because when I stare it down in a draft, there's a gamble aspect to Tyreek Hill that is not there with some of the other players in the vicinity of where he's going. I mean, are you Tyreek Hill or Tee Higgins, Jay? Oh, Tee Higgins, easy. That's an easy. I love Tee Higgins. Are you Tyreek Hill or Terry McLaurin?
16:02Andy Holloway:I'd take Tyreek. Yeah. Marvin Harrison. I would go Harrison.
16:06Mike Wright:You go 32-year-old versus the 23-year-old.
16:09Andy Holloway:Tyreek Hill feels like he's going to be the best or just a terrible pick. It won't be in the middle. It's going to be, dude, who took Tyreek? Who was willing to do it? You win.
16:22Jason Moore:That's where if he's going in a place where there are other wide receivers, I believe we'll have good seasons like T. Higgins, Garrett Wilson, Marvin Harrison. I'll take those other guys. If there's other question mark guys, like I see McLaurin with Debo in town and with the touchdown regression coming. McLaurin should be a good wide receiver, but I don't necessarily think he has a great season ahead.
16:48Mike Wright:He feels safer than Tyreek. Safer, but I don't think he's got the same outside. Jordan James, another 49ers running back, also hurt. Going to miss a couple weeks, undergoing surgery to repair a broken finger. Garendo's already out with a shoulder injury. And I believe Amir Abdullah's next man up. That's right. The Abdullah Express is...
17:04Jason Moore:I mean, there's Patrick Taylor. Patrick Taylor's still there. I mean, they signed Abdullah. He's probably next man up. Christian McCaffrey stands alone right now to have all the workload against a weak...
17:16Mike Wright:You don't... I'm telling you, you don't want that.
17:17Jason Moore:I do want that. No, you don't. Yeah, I do. No, you don't. Yes, I do. Don't tell me what I want.
17:20Mike Wright:You don't want that much work for Christian McCaffrey.
17:22Jason Moore:I didn't say it's good for him. I still want it. Okay? There's a lot of things in life that aren't good for you that I'm like... I want that. I want that slice of pie. Yeah. I want him to have a massive workload. Is that good for him? No, but is it good for my fans?
17:35Mike Wright:If you eat five pies, what happens?
17:37Jason Moore:I get fat.
17:39Mike Wright:Yeah, you might throw some of that up. You got to pace yourself. If you want to eat pie for an entire season, you can't eat all the pie in the first two weeks. Four pies. He's just real happy. Yeah, it's that fifth one that's really the problem. It's the fifth pie. Browns running back Quinshawn Judkins waived his right to a speedy trial it could push the case into 2026 there are there's speculation and my goodness put the lawyer hat back on yeah i mean and i've shout out to those that have reached out that are in the legal field that have wanted to provide insights and and things like that we also have some resources that we lean on i'm going to give you the tldr of the situation we don't know exactly how it's going to play out and this could be the precursor to a settlement that leads to then a suspension that leads to a signing and eventually the return of quench on juggins that's where i think it's headed so but that that doesn't mean that you draft him and it certainly doesn't mean he's playing anytime soon
18:38Andy Holloway:so he is not under contract when he if they put him under contract anytime soon he's going on the commissioner's list and he will get he's going to get six games like he will start his career with
18:52Mike Wright:a six game suspension correct minimum minimum um by the way i'm going to take credit for this one guys uh the smelling salt situation has been resolved nice the nfl will not provide them but you're allowed to go buy them yourself if you're an nfl player which is you know there's a lot of players that i guess lean on these things way more than probably they should i saw george kittle
19:13Jason Moore:talking online about he commented on the official post that like oh you can bring your own he's like
19:19Mike Wright:he's a happy boy yeah i saw one of the nfl players posted he bought like a thousand dollars
19:23Andy Holloway:for the smelling salts yesterday. I was going to say, if I'm like a seventh round rookie, you know, on that, just not a very large NFL lucrative deal, I have a black market available. Smelling salts are here. You're dealing? Yeah. Oh, I got a trench coat and I'm like, who needs to wake up? He does live on vibes. So, yeah.
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21:36Mike Wright:All right, we are going to jump into a 12-team half PPR mock draft. We got the footballer staff waiting, ready for action. Let's do it.
21:50Jason Moore:The Fantasy Footballers Mock Draft.
21:56Mike Wright:All right, the people have been asking for another mock draft, and here we are. Randomized draft order, 12-team, half PPR, one quarterback, two running back, two wide receiver, one tight end, one flex, four bench spots. Oh, look at that. I got the first pick in the draft. Mike's at 10 Jason at 12 feels like a little bit of a redo of something I feel like we were around these spots about three four months ago so we'll see what it feels like today I really enjoyed
22:21Jason Moore:being at the back of the draft a couple months ago there were so many players at that three four turn that I liked and I honestly in most drafts I think there are a lot of people that I target at the three four turn I feel like y 'all y 'all sharps gonna take them all okay well we've got
22:37Mike Wright:the whole crew available the draft has started i have drafted jamar chase at number one overall in this half ppr draft it is comfortable cozy wonderful jamar chase for life bijan goes next to julia and then matthew matthew betts going jameer gibbs look i mean he's a homer there is
22:59Andy Holloway:nothing he's a philly homer wow and he's over barkley he is deciding to go gibbs over barkley
23:05Mike Wright:yeah the um i feel like we really haven't talked enough about gibbs and whether he belongs in that top upper echelon like maybe maybe throw saquon out and you know you can have your discussions about that being a special year does he repeat it can he get that much volume and repeat it without getting hurt blah blah blah but bijon gibbs like that conversation like we we like bijon we know what he brings to the table we i think if you ask me what running back i would want in my backfield for an NFL team I would choose Jameer Gibbs now I like really over I was on as a general manager yes I would wow I think they're both I mean it's it's like splitting hairs but that's what I would do that being said like we have so much more confidence in Detroit's offensive weapons and pieces we've got question marks around Penix but Bijan goes ahead of him in every draft is that volume it's it's Montgomery hanging out in pure volume okay I don't have Gibbs in that
23:58Jason Moore:tier personally Gibbs is my number five running back Gibbs if he was alone would be incredible but the loss of the their center the loss of their offensive coordinator and the fact that if you look last year like we're drafting him as if he's alone we're drafting him you know as right now the second running back off the board if David Montgomery does what he's done for every year they've been together you're not going to be having like the splits with and without Montgomery last year Gibbs was very very good but he wasn't a top tier like top three running back league winner until Montgomery went down and then his stats at the end of the season look outrageously better yeah I
24:37Mike Wright:mean they're a better team with Gibbs on the field I think some people might speculate that Montgomery could enter the Algier level of work for Detroit the way that he you know Algier plays behind plays behind Bijon now another thing that came out recently two things I'm curious your thoughts uh one um it was mentioned you know the new lions running back coach is the running back coach that was with jameer gibbs at georgia tech yeah um the other thing was just there has been some talk about maybe the transition to morton from ben johnson hasn't gone as smoothly as people had hoped we have been concerned about it so but gibbs goes at um at the 103 here jefferson off the board at 104 so he went ahead of Barkley um Barkley goes at 105 to producer Borland McCaffrey at 106 yeah Brian and then Lamb Brian Thomas Jr.
25:33Mike Wright:Amon Ross St. Brown Mike went with Nico Collins at 110 I
25:37Andy Holloway:love that pick yeah he is he's in my top five of the wide receiver position like at 10 that was the the hope of Christian McCaffrey will fall to that that spot for me but I know the league and there is another McCaffrey staying in here with us I guess I didn't realize Gibbs was a point and
25:55Mike Wright:a half better than Bijan points per game last year well that's what Jace is talking about the
25:58Andy Holloway:the end of the year juiced things up by a lot I think he was like almost 10 points per game better in the games without Montgomery that's cool that he can do that though oh absolutely Montgomery
26:09Jason Moore:goes down you you will have wished you took Gibbs or if Montgomery's role is is sure it looks like
26:14Mike Wright:camp like that's I think it's just good to talk about because you know it literally never plays out the way this these ADP first rounds ever go so uh Jason you are on the clock I'm on the clock
26:27Jason Moore:here at the turn and I could go two wide receivers there's two excellent wide receivers Puka Nakua Malik neighbors I could also go two running backs Derek Henry and Devon H and I like all four of those guys since to me they are all worthy picks I like to I like to give myself flexibility later take one running back one wide receiver I'll take my running back four who I have one spot ahead of Gibbs and Derek Henry and I will take my wide receiver five Malik neighbors usually we just talked about this on the wide receiver episode I have Puka ahead of Malik neighbors but right now yeah with the concerns with Stafford if I'm looking at those two players I'm gonna go with the Malik neighbor side even though he might have to have a toe removed
27:12Mike Wright:i started seeing some some ai photos oh no of malik neighbors and his toe tied to a door and all of the the tooth loss stuff it was it was very entertaining what the what we didn't get into
27:26Andy Holloway:was the toe fairy oh yeah you put you put a toe on you a tooth is getting you like five bucks most and put a toe under there you get a benjamin yeah for sure all right well uh jason pulled the
27:39Mike Wright:trigger henry and neighbors it's great start you give yourself a lot of versatility on the draft selections on the way down not going one position um i don't know if i mentioned after nico it was genti then henry neighbors puka nakuha goes at the 202 i was very curious in this draft when the trigger gets pulled on puka nakuha and the question marks around or the bad vibes around
28:01Andy Holloway:stafford mike goes with a chan and which kyle made that decision for me it was for me being on the clock with Nico as my first pick. I would have been willing to take Puka as my wide receiver, too, just right here on the turn. But Puka went, so then that's an easy Devon Achan for me.
28:17Mike Wright:All right, A.J. Brown, wide receiver, wide receiver stack here for the Falcon, Amon Ra, and A.J. Brown. Bucky Irving off the board at 205, Chase Brown at 206. Oh, stop it. Jonathan Taylor. What did you think? Chase Brown's coming around to the late third?
28:32Andy Holloway:No, I didn't think he would make it to
28:33Mike Wright:me, but we've got to keep this ADP in the third oh i see yeah not going to happen here on this mock draft and maybe not in real drafts uh but we'll see what the preseason looks like jonathan taylor at 207 i have a hard time with the colts in general like i love tyler warren i think tyler warren's kind of he's going to be like brock bowers he's going to be immune to the the problems around him i think he's that talented that good I do I do get really nervous about the quarterback situation for my confidence levels on Taylor on Downs on Pittman on any other peripheral player because you know Daniel Jones is not a celebrated situation you know for years that is the reason why you don't like weapons in New York it's the reason why you don't like Saquon Barkley in New York as much as you could have so you know Now, Jonathan Taylor, the end of the year, masked a lot of issues earlier in the year in terms of efficiency.
29:31Jason Moore:It did when you're talking about monstrous games. I mean, they were all at the end of the year. However, his last 17 games, he's an A in consistency. He's still a great asset, and I think he is such a special player. I have no problem taking Jonathan Taylor. Obviously, I wish he was playing with Eli Manning as opposed to –
29:49Andy Holloway:Well, not anymore you don't.
29:50Jason Moore:Well, sure. He's really old now.
29:52Mike Wright:Today's Eli Manning, no. I just worry about touchdowns. I just worry about whether that's really going to be a part of it.
29:58Jason Moore:The touchdowns from an offensive standpoint of whether the team is good enough and when you get near the goal line, you have two possible quarterbacks that can vulture touchdowns.
30:06Mike Wright:We've got Taylor at 207, Drake London off the board, Kyron Josh Jacobs and Brock Bowers at 211. I think I just re-remembered that I am in this draft and need to make a pick. Yeah. And by make a pick, I mean two picks. So I am on the clock. Jamar Chase was the first rounder. Um, you know, this, I will, let me highlight something here. If I don't take it, one of the premier tight ends with one of these two picks, which I don't want to do, they will not be, I will have no shot at either one of them. That is correct. George Kittle will be gone. Trey McBride will be gone. I don't think I've drafted a top tier tight end at all in any of these mocks.
30:44Mike Wright:So maybe that would be a reason to give it a shot. Um, I'm not really looking to go quarterback at running back. I'd rather be dead than draft Brees Hall. So other players on the board, it feels like there's been a big tear break after Josh Jacobs.
30:59Jason Moore:This draft has steamed up the running backs. Chase Brown, Kyron Williams, those guys are usually going in the third round. This group of writers, they're not playing those games.
31:10Mike Wright:Yeah, I will take Trey McBride. We'll give that a shot. It's a mock draft for a reason. Jamar Chase in the first, Trey McBride in the second. Looking at the running back position, I'm going to pull the trigger on Amari and Hampton, which I think has the highest upside at this point in the draft. You're making decisions between him and, you know, the ever injured Kenneth Walker, the older Alvin Kamara on a bad offense. Joe Mixon's on the pup right now. And it's too early, I think, for Connor and Montgomery. So Omari and Hampton will go off the board at 301. Higgins, McConkie, and JSN the next three off the board.
31:44Mike Wright:Lamar Jackson, the first quarterback off the board at 305. Garrett Wilson, Mike, he's not going to be on your team. He goes at 306. Brian is the worst. That sounds like a grade school fight. Chuba Hubbard off the board at 307. Marv, Marvin Harrison, and George Kittle at 309. So Kittle goes, you know, what is that? Eight picks behind the other two guys?
32:11Jason Moore:Yeah. I mean, he's still steamed up here. When we started this, I feel like a month ago, he was a fifth rounder.
32:17Mike Wright:If you say steamed again, that's too many. Then you'll be steamed? That's too many times. I'm going to work it in I don't know why you chose that for today but you are hitting it
32:27Jason Moore:It's like the Pee Wee Playhouse A month and a half ago A month and a half ago Kittle was like a fifth rounder then he was a fourth rounder now he is all the way up It's still good value I think if you compare what he can do to McBride and Bowers, he was on a points per game he was the tight end one last year over Bowers um so yeah it's uh it's going to be interesting to see where he ends up landing
32:54Mike Wright:all right uh mike you were on the clock nico in the first h and in the second half ppr
33:00Andy Holloway:where you yeah where's your head at so i was going to like you know i i think i don't mind when we talk about tyreek i don't mind him here but the fact that i have a chan and going all in on the Miami Dolphins with my second and third doesn't feel extremely comfortable. So I'm peeking around. No one has done the – the quarterbacks have not started going off. Was hoping that Kittle dropped to me because I was going to take him in front of Jason. Because I knew he would – I know the room. I know he would not make it back.
33:37Jason Moore:I had three players on my queue that I thought might get to me. It was Kittle, Harrison, and Garrett Wilson who are all gone.
33:42Andy Holloway:uh so i am i'm taking a peek here at my rankings go i don't think i can do the tyreek hill thing so that leaves that then that turns me to well here you go tyreek hill i he's on the board for me too and i just didn't want to do it yeah well i i don't want to do it because i don't want
34:00Mike Wright:to double dolphin would you have i mean if you didn't have hm would you then i would have taken
34:05Andy Holloway:tyreek yes okay so you take mike evans yeah because he's evans is just behind tyreek in my rankings
34:11Mike Wright:So Tyreek does go next, putting Jason on the clock. Two picks here at the end of the third, start of the fourth. Derek Henry, Malik Nabors so far?
34:18Jason Moore:Yeah, so the running back tiers, you're to the real question marks. You're to the Brees Halls, the Kenneth Walkers, the guys that are talented, but you're just not sure are they going to get the workload you want? Are they going to be on the field? At this point, you know, I've talked a lot about how Josh Allen's a guy. I haven't drafted. I don't expect to get him anywhere because he's usually in the second round. I'm at the 3-4 turn here. I will definitely take Josh Allen at that point because what I'm sacrificing isn't these other wide receivers and running backs that I'm so confident in. At this point, I might be sacrificing a great running back or wide receiver, but they all have a lot of question marks.
34:57Jason Moore:At wide receiver, I've got Devontae Adams, DK Metcalf, some of those guys still available. I'm not loving any of them, to be quite frank.
35:08Mike Wright:Metcalf doesn't make you feel all right here in the fourth?
35:11Jason Moore:Metcalf makes me feel okay. Honestly, when Mike was on the clock, I thought, okay, no problem. Mike Evans will be my pick. I will be very happy with that. And then he took Mike Evans, so I was unhappy with that. I will take Metcalf here. I think he is a clear one for his team. I think Aaron Rodgers has – I mean, even when he's played poorly, he showed last year Garrett Wilson and Devontae Adams had plenty of fantasy success, and there's no one else to throw the ball to in Pittsburgh. So, yeah, Metcalf will join neighbors Josh Allen and Derek Henry.
35:44Mike Wright:Well, after Metcalf, Kamara went and Mike took his guy, Kenneth Walker at the 403. Yeah.
35:51Andy Holloway:You see a fullback dominating in that scheme last night? Ken Bon Walker is going to be great. I'm going to be completely honest with you.
36:02Mike Wright:When you said, did you see, I assumed it would be like Walker was practicing. Like that was how hyped you were that he was out there on the field. He is rested. So that means that he is practicing. He does need a lot of rest. Terry McLaurin goes next. Jalen Hurts at the 405. DJ Moore, Devontae Smith. James Cook, good value. 408. Great pick, I think, by Al Borland. Pulled the trigger. I had some hopes that he might sneak all the way back through. But of course he didn't.
36:29Andy Holloway:Matthew Betts with just the testosterone flowing through his body right now
36:35Mike Wright:with three running backs. Yes, and it seems that all the people drafting in front of me knew exactly who I was looking to, which was James Conner. Jameson Williams goes right in front of me.
36:46Andy Holloway:Joe Mixon's there for you, dude. He's your guy. He is going to be the pick.
36:49Mike Wright:Joe Mixon and Joe Burrow. Joe and Joe. I'm putting the Chase Burrow stack into play here. He's Burrow the fourth off the board here. It's the difference between him and Jaden Daniels. I want the stack, so I'll take Joe Mixon and Joe Burrow.
37:03Andy Holloway:I blame picks two through five there for not taking Joe Burrow.
37:09Mike Wright:I was – that was the number one on the list. I was just hoping he made it back through because completing that stack completes me as a person.
37:16Andy Holloway:We've seen it a lot where – Yeah, you just turn the auto draft on.
37:19Mike Wright:You're like, well, I'm done. The draft's over.
37:21Jason Moore:Yeah, I'm feeling good. Joe Burrow in the fourth or fifth for the team that drafted first or second. So the Jamar Chase team often ends up – It's like the easiest to complete stack because it seems like when you're in the middle of the rounds, there's better players to take over Joe Burrow. And then when you're sitting there with Jamar Chase on your team, it's just like a no-brainer.
37:41Mike Wright:Yeah, no, it feels awesome.
37:42Jason Moore:I love it. But you now have taken two onesies in the first five picks. So we'll have to see if your depth pays the price. Absolutely. I'm going to count Chase's two wideouts, though.
37:52Mike Wright:Joe Burrow, I took at the 501. Montgomery next. Pickens off the board. Travion Henderson. Mike is weeping. devontae adams at 505 rj harvey two picks after travion feels like the drum beat on travion is going one direction on rj harvey is going the other direction zay flowers at 507 aaron jones who is listed on the initial depth chart as the running back one no co-starter listing between him and jordan mason not that that matters much jaden daniels at 509 seems like a value well
38:22Andy Holloway:But Falcon is also going, he's going very low tee. He's got three wide, and his onesies are already drafted. He's also got the McLaurin-Daniel stack. Going zero RB.
38:34Mike Wright:Mike, you're back on the clock. A-chan Kenneth Walker at running back Evans and Nico Collins, twinsies at wide receiver.
38:43Andy Holloway:So looking at my rankings here, this would have been the spot that I hoped George Pickens would drop there. Unfortunately, he does not. And so I got my primary guys. So I'm just maybe going to swing for some upside here. I'm going to leap him up just a couple rankings because I have concerns I may not get him back. I'm going to take Ted Arroa McMillan. You would not have got him back. He was on my list for this turn. Yeah, and Kyle shouts no into the slack. Yeah, I made the right decision. and then settled upon Cortland Sutton, who I think is going to have a very solid year. Cortland Sutton, he's wild, man.
39:26Andy Holloway:That's the name I was looking at. He's higher in my rankings. He's in my top 20. But at this point when you're saying, can, I don't know, just the upside. I think he's got upside. Sutton probably outscores McMillan.
39:41Mike Wright:We need to wash away all the multi-year frustrations of Cortland Sutton not developing, I think, If we believe in Bo Nix at all, then Cortland Sutton is going to have an incredible year.
39:52Jason Moore:So I'm on the clock. I was prepared to take my first share of Isaiah Pacheco this year had everyone on my queue gone. But thankfully, Caleb Johnson, a player I very much believe in. I just wish Arthur Smith wasn't there. I got bad news for you. Arthur Smith is there.
40:08Andy Holloway:And he's not going.
40:09Jason Moore:Yeah, I know. I know. But I do.
40:10Mike Wright:He also represents your RB2 here.
40:12Jason Moore:He does. It's a little bit dicey. I'm going to have to add some probably some veteran starters later in the draft. But I'm going to start slow and I'm going to win a championship. I'm going to start slow with Caleb Johnson. I'm going to start slow without Rushy Rice and have to kind of find some victories along the. Six-round pick, six-game suspension. Six-round pick. I get what I believe is a wide receiver one when he's out on the field. So the sixth round is where I'm willing to take the gamble on Rushy.
40:44Mike Wright:that's too rich for me mike do you want him in the sixth round i do not okay travis hunter off the board at 602 mike you're back on the clock you got the rookie tedaroa mcmillan if you want to if you believe in kind of like symmetry you've been wide receiver running back wide receiver
40:59Andy Holloway:running back well maybe i do so the running back yeah pacheco is there man Man, Pacheco in the sixth round. Oh, boy. I'm looking at two Chiefs. I'm looking at Worthy and Pacheco. Pacheco doesn't feel good, but it is a backfield that we need to attack, and reports on him have been, I think, better than we anticipated. I'm going to do it. I'm going to take Pacheco.
41:32Mike Wright:well you keep it uh you keep it going the wide receiver running back back and forth see how long i can do it deandre swift goes next and tony pollard off the board at the 605 we finally see stefan diggs uh leave here in the middle of the sixth round and then a huge in my opinion value on jaylen waddle you just look at the you know tyreek in the late third which is he's slipped a little but then waddle you know three full rounds later and i i think i think if waddle stays healthy I just don't see that much of a differential between them I mean you should be of all the people you should be the one that just assumes he'll be healthy
42:10Andy Holloway:I got absolutely torched by Jalen Waddle last year I just think it makes me chuckle of the Kenneth Walker everything is does he stay healthy and I know it's two rounds later and it's just funny to hear you guys be in on Waddle of course I'm in on Waddle the cost man
42:27Mike Wright:the cost is much different but I do believe your entire team if you get the players that you want you could have nobody play in week 3 I play for first or last Stephon Diggs, Waddle Worthy, Olave I'm going to call my mom you can win with players that don't get hurt you almost always
42:52Jason Moore:have to win with players who don't get hurt it's not like
42:55Mike Wright:spending the third pick on Christian McCaffrey is at value there but uh olave at 609 ridley and pierce also huge run of wide receivers um off the board i i have two names currently in my queue i'm just double checking to make sure that i don't have anybody else i'm i'm missing here i'm gonna i'm gonna be the guy to take this player the highest he's been taken i'm taking jk dobbins in the end of the sixth oh man the end of the
43:27Jason Moore:sixth round i had him in my queue i was sure he'd get to the seven eight turn i don't think it is a
43:32Mike Wright:bad well i've got to wait like 5 000 picks between my two rounds it's an important piece of advice
43:37Jason Moore:for people that are drafting on the turn when you are on the turn yeah you are 24 picks away and crazy things happen every three or four or five picks you've got to take the guys you want you can't play the ADP game. If you're in the middle, you know, if you're near the turn, go ahead and play the ADP game and be like, okay, J.K. Dobbins isn't going in the next five or six picks, but is J.K. Dobbins going in the next 25 picks? Maybe. He was on my cue. You know who else is probably going in the next 25 picks I didn't want to lose? Oh, come on! That was so low! You freaking jerk!
44:11Mike Wright:You just gave a big speech about why you got to pull the trigger. You took my two guys! Amika Ibuka is off the board. Come on. He was so low. Of course he was.
44:24Jason Moore:You disgust me.
44:28Mike Wright:I love mock draft season with Jason. So you disgust me. Yes, indeed. Ibuka and Dobbins off the board. Now, Ibuka is my wide receiver too. I'm going to have to add some depth there. But maybe not. I mean, if anything, Ibuka gets off to the fastest start a rookie can with the opportunity afforded him. So Brian Robinson, Jacoby Myers, Addison, Jaden Reed, Jerry Judy, Kelsey in the seventh. I like that. Odunze, who it was between Igbuka and Odunze there for me. Jameson Williams. Oh, sorry, not Jameson. Javante. The worst of the J. Williams. Mike, you're back on the clock. We got five rounds left, and you are sitting Nico Evans-McMillan, H.N.
45:10Mike Wright:Walker-Pacheco. It's a lot of solid running back wide receiver depth.
45:16Andy Holloway:Yeah, we are. Let's keep this train rolling, everybody. I'm just going to take my guy. I don't know what the ADP situation will shake out on this corner. We talked about the concern for the Colts, but I just have such faith that Josh Downs, whose numbers, you know, his behind-the-scenes numbers of targets per route run, were truly wide receiver one level. And I think he can be fine with Richardson. and Daniel Jones stinks, but Daniel Jones also started the year just throwing Malik Nabors the ball every single time he could, and I think that could be Josh Downs.
45:54Jason Moore:Yeah, so I'm on the clock. Jalen Warren went to Kyle, and I basically had four guys in my queue, and I wanted a running back and I wanted a wide receiver. I preferred J.K. Dobbins and Ekbuka. Those were the two I wanted. Oh, my gosh, I have them. But I'm taking basically the other versions of them. I'm going to take Jaden Higgins, another rookie wide receiver who looks like he's going to start for day one for C.J. Stroud. And I'm going to take Jordan Mason. All the camp reports are that it's basically a 50-50 split. I love the offense there for Minnesota. So, you know, I needed one of each. I would prefer your guys, but I guess it makes sense that you got to draft before me.
46:32Mike Wright:That's fair. Bo Nix goes next in the eighth round. Mike back on the clock. Downs was the last pick. Why don't we give Mike a second to think? We'll take a break. Please do. We'll come right back.
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47:57Mike Wright:All right, Mike, back on the clock here. Downs was his pick in the last round. Third pick of the eighth round.
48:04Andy Holloway:Yeah, so I am a man of balance. I got my four wide. I got, well, I guess I'm not totally balanced. I would be if I took a running back here, but I'm not going to as this draft, you know, sharper people. We did not fall for the tight ends in that area where they should not be drafted because there's just too many juicy players. But I am now going to take my tight end. It's genius.
48:33Jason Moore:Like I was just looking at this. I'm like, we're in the eighth, and these guys who I just said, you know, is like my ice pick, when taking those guys in the fifth round over, that caliber of running back wide receivers, it makes no sense. Here?
48:47Andy Holloway:Yeah. Yeah, you got to take them. And this one is tough because it's – I got Laporta there. Man, you got Hawkinson is there. Dude, it's crazy the amount of guys there. I didn't even realize that Laporta was there because I was looking at, I was thinking Hawkinson, David Njoku, which one do I want to go with? Do I want the upside of, like, I think if things work out for Joe Flacco and David Njoku, he will be just an unbelievable pick, where Hawkinson will just be kind of safe in the end, not let you down. But with Laporta still there, I do, I personally believe in the upside still being there for him.
49:28Andy Holloway:So I'm going to take him over just the baseline of Hawkinson.
49:32Mike Wright:Sam Laporta off the board. Travis Etienne goes next. Oh, man.
49:37Jason Moore:DeAndre Swift, Javante Williams, and Travis Etienne. What could go wrong? Those are the three running backs for Al?
49:44Andy Holloway:No, that's the Falcon. Oh, that's right. Because he wins zero RB. The thing about zero RB is your team is not – like it looks gross at the draft. But it's all about shaping it as the season goes on. So when you are a full-zero RB team, you can't just look at the draft and judge it by that.
50:05Mike Wright:So after ETN, Hawkinson goes off the board. Golden, rookie Matthew Golden, who's been getting rave reviews from Jordan Love. Debo Samuel off the board. Jerome Ford off the board. Mark Andrews. Jawan Jennings and Khalil Shakir. Jennings. I'm going to double tap the wide receiver position here. I've got these guys all set up. I'm going to go ahead and take Keenan Allen in the eighth round. Wow. And I'm going to take Chris Godwin. Oh, you're going to put him on the pup? I'm going to put him on the pup if he goes on the pup. Otherwise, I'm going to have a deal on Chris Godwin here in the ninth round.
50:41Mike Wright:I have Igbuka. I'm looking for some depth at wide receiver, and I love that offense. Cedric Tillman goes off the board at 9.02. Tank Bigsby around after Travis Etienne. Patrick Mahomes, a ninth-round pick to Papa Josh. who also has Mr. Olave, has Addison with the suspension there, but has Jefferson and JSN to hold up that wide receiver room.
51:07Andy Holloway:Last mock draft, Owl went with the disgusting New York Giants backfield. Oh, the Scatterboo Tracy combo? Yeah, he's just like, I've got to lock that thing down.
51:17Mike Wright:That was a few drafts ago.
51:18Andy Holloway:Oh, sorry. Feels like yesterday. I bring it up because now you are like, you know what backfield I need to lock down? The Cleveland Browns. Jerome Ford, Judkins, back-to-back and Baker off the board.
51:30Mike Wright:Jair's talking. He's not under contract. He's going to get a six-game suspension. Doesn't listen to the show. He's not a fan. He's not subscribed. Alright. Baker Mayfield, Charbonnet, Najee, Scadaboo. Mike, you're on the clock. What a great name. What?
51:48Jason Moore:Scadaboo? Are you kidding me? It's a fun name. He's got to do something special.
51:51Mike Wright:Well, he's hurt right now and I I do find it interesting. Tyron Tracy, the starter, is still sitting there. Mike, you're on the clock. You took Laporta. You'll need a quarterback in the next three rounds. Not really concerned about that.
52:05Andy Holloway:Looking at the quarterback, we got Kyler. Goff is there. Herbert, Purdy, Caleb Williams, Dak, Justin Fields, Jordan Love. I mean, Drake May. Not concerned about that position at the moment. We're going to go. We're in the ninth? All right, we're going to start. I mean, I have the players I need to start the year, so we're going to throw some upside here. I'm going to take Luther Burden as someone who I have made proclamations of could be very surprising for the Bears, even possibly ending up as the second-best wide receiver on the team.
52:47Mike Wright:Scadaboo, Burden, and now Tyrone Tracy does go two picks after Scadaboo. Jason's on the clock. Jordan Mason, Jaden Higgins, the last two picks for him.
52:56Jason Moore:We've talked about what we believe the Patriots could develop into as an offense. I am in need of another running back. And while Mike hates him because of his love for Travion Henderson, I think Ramondre Stevenson is still going to be very involved for this team. He's paid a lot of money, and it should be a committee.
53:13Mike Wright:That's such an important pick for your team. I was just looking at your team with Caleb and Jordan Mason as your RB2s, which maybe that works out quicker than expected. Maybe Mason's startable from day one. But adding Ramondre gives you so much more just comfort at that position.
53:29Jason Moore:Yeah, and then here in the 10th round, I'll go ahead and pull the trigger on David Njoku, my usual late-round tight end target. It was between him and Tyler Warren, who goes next.
53:38Andy Holloway:Nice.
53:40Jason Moore:If it's a real draft, I very well might take Tyler Warren over David Njoku just for the hopeful breakout upside. We know what David Njoku is. He's not going to be up in the Kittle McBride tier with Bowers. You hope that maybe Tyler Warren does something special.
53:59Andy Holloway:If Flacco plays every game, David Njoku could be right there in that second tier, like the leader of it.
54:07Mike Wright:Njoku, Warren off the board in the 10th round. We're sitting here. I really do believe Tyler Warren is just a free square if you need it. Sure. Mike, you are back on the clock. Two picks left.
54:22Andy Holloway:All right. Looking at the quarterback situation, I got to make one, so I'm going to follow my rankings here. ADP, be darned. I'm going to take Dak Prescott.
54:32Mike Wright:All right. Dak is off the board. Keon Coleman. We had Shakir go off the board in the eighth round of this draft. There is hope that he's back for week one, and if he is, then his depressed ADP will be helpful for fantasy players. Trey Harris off the board, Ray Davis, Evan Ingram, Tucker Craft, Jaden Blue to Papa Josh. Nice dart throw there.
54:56Andy Holloway:Ray Davis. Yeah, not talked about enough. Not talked about enough. There's two running backs who I think we are not – like we have done a disservice, and I apologize. Ray Davis needs to be talked about more, and Braylon Allen needs to be talked about more of like they haven't paid Cook yet he is doing his why are you here business like he's holding in Ray Davis when given the opportunity looked like a guy who really belonged on the field and it's it's going to be a timeshare for a very powerful offense and then you know with the Jets of everything everything we've heard has been this is going to be a timeshare with with uh breesall and braylon allen and yeah i'd you know i'd rather have the guy who's catching the passes because the reception is worth so much more than an attempt but that's not saying like braylon allen can catch and at this point of the draft it is wild
55:52Mike Wright:all right i didn't talk you into him hey andy no no i mean you could have but i i tried i ended up going uh brandon iuke who oh you're playing team waiver wire over here uh brandon iuke and with godwin and brandon iuk and our team uh ir you mean yeah oh yeah you said waiver wire well because
56:09Andy Holloway:you're gonna put them on your oh i got you yeah you're gonna go right to the wire yeah i mean
56:12Mike Wright:you're gonna pick up braylon allen you got it there it is uh i took nick chubb with the final pick i have mixing on the team in the fourth round i i did take chubb over woody marks just because um you know we just don't i it's a splitting hair situation i'm gonna go veteran there herbert loveland mooney cooper cup who was in consideration it was him or brandon iuk i just chose the guy i can probably throw on the pup yeah and uh kyler murray jared goff blake corum tajay spears great pick there in the final round mike and jason you have two of the final three
56:43Andy Holloway:picks dac was your last one so i i love dac i am fully confident in him being a a qb1 for the season but at this it's like i'm gonna take a shot here at a guy who could leap you know it leap into the top five and be a true difference maker. The two options, Justin Fields, reports are not great, but other than the Bears, we did see some of what it could become. We are a long ways away from Justin Fields really being elite for fantasy football, but it could happen. And Jordan Love, who was disappointing last year, but he was hurt all year.
57:27Mike Wright:Did you see the recent comments about the running game too? Like him running? Oh, Jordan Love? Yeah, they're making a big commitment with him running more.
57:34Andy Holloway:Oh, Jordan Love.
57:36Mike Wright:I'll take him. They said last year he wasn't able to do it with the injuries. Correct. Oh, Kyle. Kyle went Kyle. Kyle Pitts. With the last pick of his draft. Jason, you are. Why not? Look, you got your pick of whoever you want.
57:52Andy Holloway:We're all very confident, Warren. because rookie tight ends the past two years have worked out. Historically, not really.
58:01Mike Wright:Look, I don't know how many people listened to the show to the last minute. I hope no one right now is listening. But Kyle Pitts is going to be a productive tight end this year. It is just a fact. He is going to be a productive annoying tight end. They don't have at least 600 yards. They do not have enough players on the offensive side of the football. and there's just too much positive vibes around Kyle Pitts. I'm not saying you draft him. I'd rather you don't.
58:29Jason Moore:All right, so with my team final pick here, I still feel like my running back room, I want to plug in some early starters while Caleb Johnson gets going. So I'm going to focus on ambiguous backfields on good offenses. I'm going to take Austin Eckler here, pass catching running back for the Washington Commanders.
58:49Mike Wright:all right that rounds out our half ppr mock draft if you want to see the entire draft board or walk through any of the picks from any of the teams you can do that on youtube by checking out our youtube channel it's a great time to go get subscribed youtube.com slash the fantasy footballers make sure you click the bell we're live every sunday morning before the games get started mike's with you helping you make start sit decisions we have a special mini series that our episodes are going live every saturday that is right so go check that out august youtube.com slash the fantasy footballers. To finish this up, my team, I ended up with Jamar Chase at the 101, took the shot on a tight end in the second round with Trey McBride.
59:28Mike Wright:So went onesie there. I got the stack with Joe Burrow. And the rest of my wideouts, Egbuka, Keenan Allen, Chris Godwin, Brandon Ayuk. You're going to need the waiver wire. And then Omari and Hampton, Joe Mixon, J.K. Dobbins, and Nick Chubb at running back.
59:43Andy Holloway:Jay, who you got?
59:45Jason Moore:So I started with Derek Henry. I got Caleb Johnson, Jordan Mason, Ramondre Stevenson, and Austin Eckler filling out my running backs at wide receiver. Malik Neighbors, DK Metcalf, Rushy Rice, and Jaden Higgins. I did the third round Josh Allen at quarterback and a late round David Njoku.
1:00:03Andy Holloway:I got Nico Collins, Mike Evans, Tedaroa McMillan, Josh Downs, Luther Burden at wide out, Devon Achan, Kenneth Bone Walker, Isaiah Pacheco at my running back position, and then Dak and Jordan Love. I should have taken braylon allen i didn't realize only i couldn't believe you didn't after all that talk because i
1:00:20Mike Wright:got i got locked in thanks for leaving him for the waiver wire after i throw i got locked in i'm gonna drop jordan for braylon allen uh we've got rb ranking shows coming up next week we've got 10 tips and tricks we got my guys episode next week it is go time thank you so much for listening make sure if you're on a podcast app you click that follow button so you can be alerted to new episodes were five days a week and like mike said we have a special uh bonus episode mini series coming out tomorrow on youtube exclusively so you can check that out and um that'll do it for today's episode shout out to the ducers managing the well the deucing and the drafting on today's episode impressive appreciate that you can find the community at jointhefoot.com come hang out with us Goodbye.
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