Fantasy Football - Mock Draft Madness! - Podcast for 7/31

13:29Mike Wright:well we're gonna jump right in right now 12 team full ppr we're gonna start three wideouts So the roster is a quarterback, two running backs, three wide, one tight end, one flex, four bench spots. Draft spots were randomly chosen, and Jason ended up at five, Mike at six. I'm at seven. That's fun. So back to back to back. Mike's getting in both directions.

13:54Andy Holloway:It's a baller's sandwich.

13:55Mike Wright:Yeah. Yep, Mike, and you're in the middle. Lucky guy. All right, first off the board, Betsy is drafting first in this draft. Jamar Chase, no surprise. There again, full PPR, three wide. CeeDee Lamb goes next. Jefferson at 103. And then Pukunakua goes at 104. I knew we would be right here staring down top-tier running backs in a full PPR, three wide. They're going to drop a little bit, and suddenly, Jason, You're on the clock with your pick of running backs.

14:32Jason Moore:Yeah, I'm currently thrilled. I mean, if I had the 102, I'd be taking this player. I did not expect him to fall to me here at the 105. I presumed I'm taking CeeDee Lamb. That was the pick that I was prepared to take at the five spot. But I'm going to take my number one running back, the guy who can't get injured this year, young sensation superstar, Bajon Robinson. it's the vision minute yeah i you know we've had so many discussions about cmc and mike has been

15:04Mike Wright:at the forefront of cmc 101 train and if you didn't see it train is getting heavier if you didn't see it kyle use check um incredible all pro fullback of the 49ers uh friend of the show i mean he he put out a slow motion video of christian mccaffrey and tagged mike on the video

15:24Andy Holloway:He said nothing else. It's just a tag of my handle with a glorious Christian McCaffrey highlight. Highlight. Highlight.

15:33Mike Wright:What's funny about it, though, is that we've said all the things we need to say at this point. Mike is firmly with CMC at 101. Now, you're on the clock right here, and we can talk about who you're looking at. Maybe it's CMC. But what's funny to me is that all these things I'm getting tagged on with CMC are highlights of him, as though like i don't know he's good at football like this is the best offensive player in football and nobody questions it it's just the the he's played two out of he's been the best player for your team for two years three years he's ruined your season i've had the argument of like especially with bajon robinson it's like i cannot see myself not taking bajon robinson over no over cmc because this is prime time for a running back at his age and i don't need to deal with the it might it's not a coin flip right there's more likely that mcafree's healthy than unhealthy i don't look at it as a 50 50 shot some people out there do but it's still a risk aversion thing where it's like if if bijon didn't exist maybe we could have a different discussion but mike i i say all that to try to bait you into Christian McCaffrey?

16:43Andy Holloway:I will be taking Christian McCaffrey. Like, at this spot, if I were in Jason's... I'm shocked. If I were in Jason's spot, I have McCaffrey number one, but it's tough to be like, okay, I'm going to take that guy over Bajon and have that feeling safer. No running back is safe, but yeah, I am going to take McCaffrey. And just since Juice put that tweet out, I will say my Twitter feed is nothing but Christian McCaffrey's rising in my rankings. Oh, it really sucks. I'm like, hey, this is what I said. My train's getting heavier, but it's all right.

17:20Jason Moore:We love them in the second.

17:21Andy Holloway:People are welcome.

17:22Jason Moore:Also, I do feel the need for probably a month to continue to let people know that Bajon Robinson came out and said that his name is Bajon. Because I because if I'm listening to us for the first time and I haven't heard that, I'm like, these guys are idiots. Yeah. Are they talking about, they said B. John, B. John?

17:41Mike Wright:Here's my policy on that. He came out and said, what year is this for B. John? Four? Three. Okay, so year three. How many years of college did he play? Three. Okay. That's a six-year run of every soul, including all his best friends in the entire NFL, including Saquon Barkley, who just came out and said, who's the best runners in the game? Oh, it's B. John. B. John. He didn't correct any of them. Well, he just did.

18:06Andy Holloway:I'm not going to correct Saquon Barkley. He didn't bring it up. They brought it up. He's mild-mannered about it. He's a nice guy. Oh, my gosh. You guys.

18:15Mike Wright:I'm going to try my best. Well, look, I did try. I got it right about two-thirds of the time. That's about what I'm going to aim for. That's not too bad for you. He's off the clock, or he's off the board here. I had this similar draft spot in a PPR draft earlier where we didn't have to start three wide. I am going to go with Amon Ra. in a full PPR with three wide receivers starting, I feel like that is as safe of a selection, a top three wide receiver two consecutive years, and more flexibility where I don't feel backed into different positions further down the line. So I'm sticking with wide receiver here.

18:54Mike Wright:I didn't like how it was when I went running back in the last one, and I didn't have to start a third wide in that one. So Jason went with –

19:01Andy Holloway:I don't blame you on that one. Between – for me, anyways. It was him or probably neighbors. Robinson and McCaffrey, they're in there for me. I'm for sure taking them over St. Brown. Gibbs is – that's where it becomes a real question mark of. The reports out of camp are – look, if you are on Team Gibbs, you would be getting hot and bothered when they're talking about – Gibbs is starting – like when the offense is coming out and they're starting drives, right now they're going with Gibbs. And if you watched Lions football last year, that was essentially never it was always david montgomery so if they are actually moving gibbs up that he gets first quarters and haps now well if you goodness if you look at uh the

19:44Mike Wright:the aforementioned saquon barkley naming the top running backs in the league he omitted himself from the list gibbs was one of his top three in the league i think everybody in the nfl understands how talented he is and if he had you know the opportunities that a true workhorse would have he would put up probably the number one overall numbers i mean if montgomery vanished uh yeah Because he went on an amazing vacation with his family. Gibbs, he's in one-on-one contention. Yes, for sure.

20:10Jason Moore:I would personally still take Bajon over him, but he would be in that tier. Absolutely.

20:15Mike Wright:Incredible discipline there. Gibbs goes after my pick of Almond Rock. Barkley and Jinty go next. Neighbors and Nico at the 11 and 12 spot. Those guys get to pair them with Brian Thomas Jr. and Drake London. in a full PPR, three wide. Neighbors in London, Nico and Brian Thomas. That's really nice.

20:37Andy Holloway:Yep, that feels good.

20:38Mike Wright:AJ Brown goes next, third pick of the second round. A-chan off the board at 2.04.

20:42Andy Holloway:Whoa, the Borgogan is going high T in the face of the three wide. Yes, Saquon and A-chan. That'll be fascinating to watch.

20:50Mike Wright:And then Lad McConkie goes at 2.05. I am back on the clock. Amon Ra was the first pick. I've talked about the fact that I'm rising on JSN. Again, I think he has an incredible full PPR target. He's on the board here. So is Derrick Henry, right? These are the leagues where Derrick Henry is going to fall way down the board and maybe a little bit too far.

21:12Jason Moore:Full PPR, Derrick Henry always takes a hit. He doesn't catch many passes, but he's obviously very talented.

21:19Mike Wright:I think this is where the slide stops for him, though. I'm going to go ahead and take Derrick Henry. Darn it.

21:25Jason Moore:Oh, you were going to go high tee? Yeah, of course. Derrick Henry should not be here. He always goes way too low in PPR leagues as if when he scores 22 rounds. He doesn't catch passes though, Jay. Yeah, he only gets 2 ,000 rushing yards and 22 rushing touchdowns, but he didn't catch many passes. Oh, but when he did catch a pass, he took it to the house. He scored, yeah. It's silliness to me.

21:46Mike Wright:Yeah, it's just what happens. So, Mike, you're back on the clock. CMC was the first round pick. We'll see what you two – I'm curious how you guys feel about things. over the next couple rounds because like I said last time we did a full PPR I took a running back in the first round I I don't I don't think I liked it that much but I but it really just depends on who's there when you're on the clock Mike what are the considerations right now you've got

22:13Andy Holloway:Jacobs and Bucky at running back I'm not looking at running back uh at all I'm looking at the wide receiver position ADP wise we're talking JSN Tyreek meet Higgins and Garrett Wilson and the way that my rankings and my projections have it out because of the ppr garrett wilson and t higgins are the guys i would be looking at i think i have t just slightly ahead but i mean you're it's 11 to 12 uh in in those rankings so it is it's just kind of how are you feeling that morning and i'm gonna i'm gonna try the i'm gonna try it with garrett wilson here of hoping that the pass volume is at least high enough and the target share is high enough for gary wilson and then look you you if you've been with the pod you know that i have supported t higgins through thick and thin and it has mostly been thin or would it be thick no

23:10Mike Wright:that'd be uh that'd be thin yeah yeah thick and thin thin's the bad one yeah really yeah oh for

23:16Jason Moore:sure when you're talking about me times are thin like that means you don't got a lot of money All right. I'm going to take T. Higgins here. I was – Hey, pardon me. Nice. Nice. I will take T. Meat Higgins.

23:33Mike Wright:See, that's an interesting one overall because you don't have a wide out yet in a full PPR, so he's your wide receiver one.

23:40Jason Moore:Yeah, exactly. It's tough when the wide receivers go early. obviously I would you know I expected to get CeeDee Lamb in the beginning I was blessed by getting Bijan but sometimes in those full PPR leagues you do look at where the wide receivers go early and you go man I wish I had a a first round wide receiver one of those studly studdos

24:03Mike Wright:do you know what the career high total receptions are for T Higgins in a season because I thought

24:07Jason Moore:that would be an interesting thing that is I don't know but tell me per game because no That'll be much better.

24:14Mike Wright:What's his career high in a season? Mike, do you have a guess?

24:17Andy Holloway:Of receptions? Yeah, total receptions. I'm going to go mid-60s. Oh, I was going to go mid-80s.

24:23Mike Wright:Well, split the difference. 74. Okay. 74 is the high. So T. Higgins off the board to Jason in round two. Tyreek goes next. Jason at 210. And then a couple of tight ends off the board. I wondered when they'd go. Bowers and McBride at 211 and 212. Again, 12-team league. snake draft circling around to the third round betsy goes with chase brown first pick of the third jacobs off the board papa josh breaking hearts well mine at least marvin harrison off the board at 303 jefferson json and marvin in a three wide no running backs off the board for his team but man yeah that's really nice to start your certainly is your full ppr team Bucky goes off the board at 304 I feel like Bucky also has fallen in full PBR leagues at times um for whatever reason and then Jason you're back on the clock you've got uh Bajon Robinson and Meet Higgins who's your third pick with a strange name there are a lot of

25:26Jason Moore:players here that I like I really like a running back Jonathan Taylor and Kyron Williams I think they are extreme values in the third round they are worthy of you know at the end of the year they could be seen as first round picks that you're getting in the third round. I also think, you know, while the ADP of George Kittle is later taking him here is also valuable. However, with how this has been going, I'm going to take a guy who is actually 12 in my rankings. I'm going to take my wide receiver 11 and my wide receiver 12. That was T. Higgins, followed by, surprisingly, Mike Evans. Okay.

26:01Mike Wright:Mike Evans off the board. Mike, you have two of your guys for sure with Christian McCaffrey and Garrett Wilson. I'll give you a moment to think. We'll take a break and come back with the rest of the third round.

26:18Mike Wright:All righty. We are into the third round. 12 team, three wide, full PPR mock draft. Jason, Mike, and myself drafting back to back to back in the middle of this thing. We are on the way back through. Mike you have McCaffrey and Garrett Wilson Jason's team is Robinson Higgins Evans and I've got I'm on

26:41Andy Holloway:Ron Henry so far I'm up after you all right I am on the clock and I still have a I still have a couple of my top 20 wide receivers available so to be able to start with McCaffrey and still get a guy who is in my top 12 and then another guy in my top 20. I feel pretty good about it. I'm going to put these star-crossed teammates who are no longer teammates, but now they are teammates yet again. I'm going to put Devontae Adams on my roster with Garrett Wilson.

27:15Mike Wright:Well, that'll make it easy for me. I am taking Jonathan Taylor at the value at 307 to go with Derrick Henry. I mean.

27:22Andy Holloway:Didn't you say you didn't like that you took a running back in the first in one of these before that is true and now you have two running backs yeah but i got on mon raw

27:31Mike Wright:okay in the first so i feel like i have my hero wide receiver situation going on and uh at this point in the draft i'm you know the the biggest names in adp right now at wide receiver i have guys i like that are much lower in adp but terry mclaren he's not in camp regression kid yeah rashi rice i'm not taking rashi rice right here no we don't know what this suspension is going to look like. Matt Calf on a new team. I like it. I think it'll go well. But you are lowering to another tier here at wide receiver where Jonathan Taylor is a first-round caliber running back. I'm going to take the value there the way I did with Henry.

28:05Mike Wright:After Taylor, Kyron off the board, then Kittle finally goes. He was a thought. Kittle was definitely a thought. DJ Moore, Alvin Kamara, and Amari and Hampton round out the third round. Chuba Hubbard at 401. Cortland Sutton flush with Cash at the 402. And here we go. We got some quarterbacks off the board finally. Josh Allen at 4.03. DK Metcalf at 4.04. Lamar Jackson off the board at 4.05. I am back on the clock at wide receiver. Everybody I just said that was there is still there. None of them really went. Just Metcalf off the board of that list of guys. I could go with somebody I've drafted often in Jamison Williams, somebody I believe has breakout potential got some of the rookies coming up in ADP Tett McMillan Travis Hunter but I still am it's tough I see a lot of value here um you know Jaden Daniels and Jalen Hurts are sitting there it's a long wait for me um I'm gonna see what my team feels like going with Jaden Daniels I haven't taken him in any interesting but I'm gonna take him here and Jason is not happy I so I have not taken him

29:16Jason Moore:anywhere and I was going to certainly not here I was going to take him here to see how I feel about my team taking an early Jaden Daniels how funny well uh sorry you can take somebody else

29:28Mike Wright:though Mike you're on the clock Garrett Wilson Devante Adams your last two picks and Caffrey

29:33Andy Holloway:in the first we're gonna keep piling up the olds I guess uh I will look I know he's on pup wink wink right now and needs money but oh i thought you meant that was joe mixon when you said oh no oh no no jerry mclaurin who is he he's my he's my wide receiver 20 so out of the sixth spot to get mccaffrey and then three top 20 wide receivers i am enthusiastic about this build so

30:02Mike Wright:far all right jason you're back on the clock jade and daniels will not be available but you have some other choices you can make here jalen hurts who you love if you wanted to go quarterback there

30:12Jason Moore:is a wide receiver that i like and a running back that i like that i think both can come to me at the next round because of that i'm going to go ahead and take i love getting that that third or fourth quarterback because to me josh allen lamar jackson jaden daniels jalen hurts those guys are difference makers in fantasy i don't want to be the guy that starts the run you know and take Lamar Jackson first, but I love being the one that finishes that run and get the best value on one of those superstar quarterbacks. So you did go with Jalen Hurts. Oh, and then George Beggins goes the next back. Yeah, George.

30:46Jason Moore:Was that the name you thought was back to you? Yeah. He was lower in ADP. Oh, you fell victim to the ADP. You just told everyone, don't fall victim to the ADP. That's fine. I'm just saying. Well, yeah, I told them to not play by that rule, and he didn't. He's a good listener. crap he's a good listener i think i love george in these mocks jake lives to take the picks that

31:09Mike Wright:we care about anyways well he knows it's a good pick then yeah that's right all right papa josh who had jefferson jsn and harrison the triple whiteouts goes james cook in the fourth round i think that's fine value for james cook jameson williams off the board not surprised not surprised ken walker off the board to finish the round i mean they these guys live for nothing other than to disrupt the next round for us.

31:34Jason Moore:Stupid Jake. I had one running back, one wide receiver that I thought might come back to me in the next round. Those picks were George Pickens or James Conner, both of which stupid baby Jake took.

31:47Mike Wright:So, yeah, spoiler alert. Tett McMillan, Devontae Smith. I would have loved either of those. Brees Hall, James Conner go next. Jason back on the clock. The picks he hoped were there are gone. I'm talking a lot, kind of introducing you with an opportunity to pick here. Thank you. To give you a moment to settle down.

32:05Jason Moore:Yeah, I'm going to take a risky pick right now. I think we'll have more clarity coming closer to the season. Joe Mixon here in the middle of the fifth round. If he's healthy and he's out there for week one, obviously he is an extreme value in the fifth round. If this was a real draft and I was drafting today, I would probably be a little bit too scared, but he's going to make my team look real nice on a mock.

32:38Mike Wright:Brutal honesty. And the truth shall set you free. See, the thing is, I actually don't think people look at mixing very fondly. I think there's almost no player that people are more negative about this off season than Joe Mixon. Yes. So maybe that'll backfire. Good.

32:53Jason Moore:Feels Mike.

32:54Mike Wright:Mike has one running back who didn't play much last year, and then he's got Garrett Wells and Devontae Adams and Terry McLaurin. We play to win. But he is back on the clock. Mike, you are up.

33:05Andy Holloway:The way that turn went for me was very unexpected. I knew George Pickens wouldn't make it past Jason, but then the fact that – and I guess looking at Team 1 and Team 2, they took a tight end in the second round. That's where McBride and Bowers went. So I guess it's not as surprising they didn't go with another onesie position. But Joe Burrow made it back to me. And he, Jason, you talk about completing the quarterback run. Yeah. Like Joe Burrow, there is a – that was not in my plan at all, but just a delightful surprise. I opened the candy bar and – You got a golden ticket? And the golden ticket was in there.

33:47Andy Holloway:I was actually surprised. I'm not going to throw it away.

33:48Mike Wright:I wasn't sure if Jason would go Burrow over Hurts just for the stack with Higgins or not. But Burrow off the board to Mike there. I'm going to go with a player that I think is going to be extremely productive all season long, even when and if Rashi Rice gets back at some point. But I'm going to take Xavier Worthy here in the fifth round, the kind of like certifiable one right now in Kansas City who was extremely productive at the end of the year, who shouldn't have Rashi Rice next to him, who probably doesn't have Hollywood Brown next to him. I like that pick. And so I'll take Worthy in the fifth round.

34:23Mike Wright:After Worthy, Waddle, Travis Hunter, and Judy go next. I don't know if you guys have seen a lot of the Browns camp highlights, but I'm seeing a few things. One, I'm seeing a lot of Deontay Johnson. And we haven't talked about him hardly ever.

34:36Andy Holloway:No, we have not.

34:37Mike Wright:But I am seeing play after play, not just with the backups, like Dylan Gabriel and him have a connection, but even with Joe Flacco, like finding Deontay Johnson out there, when you think about what they have at wide receiver i think it's like joe flacco is such a productive for fantasy quarterback that if he's the guy all of a sudden you line up you know judy and tillman and dionte and njoku and you're like maybe this office could get some stuff done i am into it i we were no judkins and then a hurt jerome ford maybe the passing game is what starts this season for cleveland even though that schedule is brutal maybe we get a lot of fantasy

35:12Andy Holloway:goodness if you uh if you haven't checked it out please check out we have a once a week dynasty podcast it's where we wrote we exclusively talk about dynasty there we were talking about the Cleveland Browns and Kyle's on that show and he was talking about his position on the Browns is he kind of just he wants to be hands off like that seems like a totally fair logical thing they were horrifically bad last year and but then I had to remind him like under Stefanski this more often than not they've been a top half type of an offense like two years ago with joe flacco it was a top 10 scoring team and so it's while last year was so horrifically bad for everything in the cleveland browns it has been better with this coaching staff there are players that their adp is

36:02Mike Wright:depressed because of the teams and so that's one that you look at flacco's the starter just maybe soak it up while you can. I'm back on the clock. I think, where did we get to? We got to Judy and then Montgomery finished out the fifth round with Zay Flowers. Diggs at 6.01. I like that pick, Brooksy. Travion Henderson, RJ Harvey, Olave, Ridley, and I am going with Roma Dunze. Taking Roma Dunze at the 6.06. Almost took him at the 5.07. Took Worthy instead. Thrilled to have him come all the way back around when seven wideouts went off the board between Worthy and Dunze. so he was in my queue as well for a long time so i'm i'm happy there uh i feel like there's kind

36:41Andy Holloway:of a tear break happening at wide receiver right now there definitely is and so mike you are back

36:45Mike Wright:on the clock luckily you've got a trifecta of very good wide receivers already took burrow in

36:50Andy Holloway:the last round what are you thinking so i agree that there is a a what feels like a pretty large tear break like where she rice is there but we don't know jordan addison i get same situation of we haven't heard anything about his legal troubles have we? Did I miss something?

37:10Mike Wright:Well his situation was basically that he we don't know the official suspension that's what I mean after the wet reckless. We expect two to three games is the

37:19Andy Holloway:expectation yeah so that should be coming down and then it's like Godwin who maybe he's hurt. Jacoby Myers is a fantasy vegetable he'll be decent but it is a tear break then looking at the running backs who I'm particularly interested in here because I think that they both should catch a decent amount of passes. You have Pacheco, and then you have DeAndre Swift. Neither of them I'm super confident in with Pacheco. The return from the injury was rough. He was looking like the featured guy. And then does Ben Johnson actually like DeAndre Swift? Nobody does. With their actions, they kind of said they did.

38:01Andy Holloway:and so I'm going to lean in. Caleb Johnson. I'm going to let the Ben Johnson offense get DeAndre Swift some targets. You were that real. Oh, my gosh. I was so excited. Over Pacheco.

38:13Jason Moore:When you started saying you were between Pacheco and DeAndre Swift, I was like, yeah, I got my man, baby.

38:19Mike Wright:Oh, when I saw Caleb Johnson down there in ADP, I knew Jason would not let the George Pickens thing happen again. No way. So Swift to Mike, Caleb Johnson to Jason as a third running back in the sixth round. Laporta off the board. That would have been a strong thought, I think, for me in the seventh. I was curious the gap between Kittle and the next tier of tight ends, which is like Hawkinson and Kelsey and Laporta. Maybe Mark Andrews is entering that category. I hate to admit it, but look, it's what it is, right? You want the best player available. Pacheco does go off the board. Oh, bets. And then Jaden Reed off the board at 6 '11 to the Packer fan.

39:00Jason Moore:Betts takes the Rushy Rice Jordan Addison combo. What are you doing Betts? Week 1 is going to be real. I hope I'm playing against Betts week 1. He's starting slow. Rushy Rice Jordan Addison.

39:13Andy Holloway:The truth is. He's a character guy. The truth. Oh you're pulling a Cleveland Browns. The truth is. Bonzie Wells available. If he can survive that. You need your players especially at the end when you're trying to win a championship. Yeah, we all want to get off to a hot start, but those are two really good players that when you need them the most, they're probably going to be producing.

39:39Mike Wright:The problem is you've got to start three wide receivers and one flex, and those aren't one-week suspension. So I just look forward to the nuggets he finds late in the draft. Tony Pollard, Aaron Jones off the board. But Bo Nix, quarterback of choice ahead of Jason here, who took Mixon and Caleb Johnson the last two rounds, has Higgins and Evans at wideout right now with Hurts as his quarterback.

40:03Jason Moore:Yeah, I mean, there is a word called desperate. I mean, a desperate need for wide receivers. That is clearly the – starting three wide receivers right now, I've got T. Higgins, Mike Evans. Love the rest of my roster, but I'm going to start filling out wide receivers.

40:20Mike Wright:Is that the category? Is that the tier in our UDK where Cooper Cupp and Debo Samuel come into play? That's very desperate.

40:29Jason Moore:I'm desperate excited. I'm still hopeful, and I'm looking for guys that I think could develop into next year. You're talking about more of a top pick, someone that is yet to ascend and going to maybe a first-round draft pick last year who has a really nice offense expected to score the third most points in the NFL but no one to throw the ball to I will take Ricky Pearsall he's the highest in my personal PPR rankings of everybody left yeah the PPR rankings so yeah I'm not going by ADP here I'm going by where I think he's going to where he's going to finish

41:15Mike Wright:alright Mike you are back on the clock uh seventh round here deandre swift was the last selection congrats on that you you're pretty

41:25Andy Holloway:balanced i am and i am i was between two players in my head just looking at the adp lo and behold i look at my ppr rankings and they are back to back um your personal or the yes yes my p ppr oh these are my public personal oh that's right so this is my pp PPR Am I doing this right? Is it too many P's?

41:51Jason Moore:I don't know man It's PPPPR Yes

41:56Andy Holloway:And those two guys for me

42:01Jason Moore:Sir This is a family show

42:05Andy Holloway:What is happening here? Move on So I The Ricky Pearsall, Jawan Jennings thing It's tough for me because I can see the first. The floor is higher with Jennings. I can see the first rounder being the guy who takes over, but I think that Jawan Jennings is still the pick between the two of them. So it's Jennings, and then the other player is Josh Downs, which I'm not going to mess around with Josh Downs.

42:32Jason Moore:Yeah, he's next up in my queue.

42:35Andy Holloway:I was like, I don't know how the rest of the draft feels about Jennings. I know that Andy's not going to take him, and you would take Josh Downs.

42:43Mike Wright:He was the next up in my queue if I'm taking wide receiver.

42:46Andy Holloway:And following along, I don't know if you guys have been following it, just the word out of Indianapolis recently has been far more positive on Anthony Richardson, saying he looks like he's turned at least a corner. He's got a lot more to go, but the fact that they're talking about he is at least keeping up with Daniel Jones, if not playing slightly better, that would that would be richardson i mean not one that would be incredible for the colts if it actually worked out after this amount of time but it either way no matter who the quarterback is josh downs is is still a great thing the idea of turning turning a corner not the corner yeah

43:28Mike Wright:like he's got so many corners to turn well it's a windy road to be a franchise to get back on the right direction or something three it's got to be like a full u-turn how many corners has he turned we don't know i mean the fact that beating daniel jones is a headline that's its own thing first corner is easy right but but it is it's worth noting because there are players and it's they're not fun to admit but if they start they're just relevant and anthony richardson unfortunately oh he would absolutely can be that so uh my question here at this point in the draft i'm sitting here seventh round i'm gonna go ahead and pull the trigger on chris godwin i know that the vibes around godwin are not positive right now but in the seventh round not having to be a starter you know i i'm okay taking the shot there jacoby myers goes next juan jennings after that and um golden goes at 7 10 shot at a rookie hawkinson and kelsey at the end of the round both of those were in consideration for me and um i did not pull the trigger at tight end kind of yeah i punted for kind of kind of regret that a little bit i think but you have you took josh downs jason went pierce so i went godwin in the seventh round we'll take a break ahead of this next pick and come back and finish out this mock

44:50Mike Wright:interesting all right mark andrews uh off the board just ahead of me emeka egbuka off the board at 804 that one is the interesting heartbreak to me i took godwin and i thought egbuka would slip and maybe I could grab a pair of those guys and just...

45:06Andy Holloway:There's no way Egbuka's getting past Kyle.

45:09Mike Wright:And he didn't. Yeah, and I think Godwin and Egbuka, I don't know who I'd rather have. I think I'd rather have Egbuka, so I kind of regret that.

45:18Andy Holloway:That one is a really tough call.

45:20Mike Wright:So I'm back on the clock here. The running back situation, I'm looking. I have Jonathan Taylor and Derek Henry and nobody else. Jason has two or three. Mike has two running backs right now. But the names out there, man, they're rough. It's rough at running back. Tyrone Tracy, is he a starter? Cam Scadaboo making camp highlights. Jalen Warren, Caleb Johnson situation. Travis Etienne, Tank Bigsby situation. Najee, is he coming back? Judkins, does he play for the Browns? Javante Williams, I'd rather be dead than put him on my team.

45:58Andy Holloway:It would feel bad.

46:00Mike Wright:it just it's not great um but i'm gonna because of the three wide receiver situation with a flex i think i'm just gonna keep hammering wideouts and adding them to my team so i'm gonna take a player that i think people think is going to be irrelevant but i don't think he will be debo samuel it's been very very positive camp report a little little mini stack there so uh i'll go debo as an option yeah i got jaden daniels on the team already mike it's back to you

46:29Andy Holloway:So I have four wide receivers. I mean, that's not enough considering it's three wide and a flex. I prefer to have some more guys on the bench. But I'm going to take a look over at the running back position and just trying to gauge who could actually take a leap and may not make it back to me. I don't know what these animals would do on this turn because you guys are doing wild stuff. So I'm just going to go ahead and... Oh, I know the pick.

47:03Mike Wright:Can I say the pick?

47:05Andy Holloway:You can get it.

47:06Mike Wright:Does his name begin with a J? No. Okay. All right. No. It totally wasn't my guess. Are you going to the mall?

47:14Jason Moore:I'm going to go with Cam Scadaboo. Okay. I wasn't going to take him, but I wanted him on my roster. Yeah.

47:21Mike Wright:There's a little bit of that, too. How else do you get him on your roster, though, Jay?

47:23Andy Holloway:Well, sometimes... Scadaboo is a really tough draft pick because you've got to... sometimes you have to force the issue but i wanted him on my roster it's like you have to force the issue i see you got to force the issue with him you got to make a projection uh the nfl with their draft capital said he was not a priority but everything on tape of watching him play he's he is a man and he has a three down skill set and i i think he will overtake tracy it's just how much does he keep tracy off the field uh so i'm i'm on the clock i wouldn't have

47:56Jason Moore:gone that direction. I'm still wanting, since I've got three running backs and three wide receivers and we start three wide receivers, I want more. I'm going to shotgun the wide receiver position. I could take someone like Cooper Cup, who is the next highest in my personal PPR rankings. However, I'm going to still shoot for the moon here. I'm going to take a rookie just like you did, Mike. Really like Jaden Higgins, the wide receiver second round draft pick that's inheriting a very wide open receiver court you got nico collins and they're needing a two so this year rookie season jayden higgins could be the number two for cj stroud we've seen a lot of fantasy value there

48:34Mike Wright:so i'll pull the trigger there all right uh after higgins goes trey harris a fan a fan favorite of jason i was i would have taken him on the way back number one on jason's personal ppr trey harris only rankings uh cooper cup goes next at 8 10 nobody ever wants to draft cooper cup but he could matter and jalen warren and jordan mason that's the name i thought you're going to take mason jordan mason yeah over scadaboo that's what i thought you were going to go with with the

48:59Andy Holloway:because it being ppr um was going to go with the upside of scadaboo actually has that in his

49:04Mike Wright:profile so mason goes next at the 8-9 turn darnell mooney who's dealing with an injury but should be available for the regular season finally goes off the board interesting this is the first mock of the offseason where Tracy goes behind Scadaboo, I believe. But Tyrone Tracy goes at 9.02. Keon Coleman, a shot on some upside there by Papa Josh. And then Travis Etienne off the board at the 9.04. Jason, you're back on the clock. Ninth round. I believe all three of us still need a tight end over the next four rounds.

49:35Jason Moore:Well, I am taking mine here. I was looking at that the last round, but three-fourths of the players on the turn away from me already had their tight end. So I figured I could wait. I don't know if I'll take your guy because I know you like the PPR value of Evan Ingram. I'm not as high into that. I'm going to take David Najoku. That's who I would have taken. Is Najoku? Yeah. Oh, well, then you won't because I'm taking him. Yeah.

49:57Mike Wright:Well, Mike, you're on the clock. Najoku to Jason. Are you looking tight end still or are you moving elsewhere?

50:04Andy Holloway:So now I've got to reevaluate a little bit here. So, Andy, your team needs one. One other team. Yeah, one more team. So four potential spots for someone to take a tight end. Let me just give a gander here. The ADP you're talking, Jonu, Evan Ingram, Tyler Warren, Colston Loveland. I think I'm going to punt it. I think I'm going to let you two take whoever it is that you want to go. So I'm looking at the wide receiver position. Man, this thing thinned out, guys. Goodness. I don't know if you guys have seen this.

50:40Mike Wright:that is that is rough it's one of the it's one of the reasons why just piling up wide outs early it's like it can feel you know like you're passing on value elsewhere but it's it's a tough spot to be late in the draft filling out a team that needs maybe four to start every week

50:58Andy Holloway:yeah and i feel good with my my core four so let's take a potential ppr rookie i'm going to take luther burden uh second round pick from the chicago bears it's been a slower start because of injury and ben johnson just getting mad at him but i there a world exists where burdened is like to me anyways i don't know where you guys are a world exists where burden is the second

51:22Mike Wright:most important fantasy wide receiver on the team that world does not exist for me i'm just for me personally yeah i'm gonna go with dobbins in this round jk dobbins i've been kind of eyeballing him for a couple of rounds seeing if you sneak through ninth round pick that's a great value my third running back Pittman off the board next where did RJ Harvey go in the in the sixth round

51:42Jason Moore:yeah and you know RJ Harvey's got the juice he's the more exciting player I would want him on my roster more than Dobbins but a three round opposite value where I presume JK Dobbins is going to get more work certainly to start the season feels a good value I yeah I think so I

52:00Mike Wright:I think it'll work out. Pittman, Javante, Stevenson, Tillman, Mayfield rounding out the ninth round. Jerome Ford at 10-0-1. That's a good pick. Christian Kirk, Rashad White, and then Tank Bigsby. I love that pick, Kyle. Kyle's made a few really, you know, Chris Olave. You know he's kind of condemned to draft Chris Olave in all drafts.

52:22Andy Holloway:My Tank Bigsby ranking is borderline embarrassing. Too high? Hot and bothered? Yeah. I just the more and more running by four isn't he no no but I can go look just hear camp reports that ping-pong between them it's just like but it's it yeah it's the ping-pong between it's like he had a good day and he got all the work it's the I think Tank Bigsby is the better runner and like I know that you're okay well ETN slotted to be the reception guy like you're telling me on first and second down when they're running pass plays there won't be check downs to Tank

52:58Mike Wright:bigsby i know he'll try to catch him but they bounce off his hands to the opponent i know he

53:02Andy Holloway:is inefficient um especially with the the catch percentage is not the same but if i recall off the top of my head his yards per catch exact same as rashad white who that was the former running back with liam cohen who still got a bunch of receptions after after uh bucky took over i

53:21Mike Wright:yeah i'm not counting on any receiving work from from i mean what did he have last year tank bigsby I think he had six catches.

53:27Jason Moore:Yeah, six. Okay, there it is. How many went to the other team?

53:30Mike Wright:So he will not catch the ball. He's not getting checked down. He's not going to catch it.

53:34Andy Holloway:That's locked in. Everybody believes that is 100 % guaranteed. I'm saying just leave a limber of hope of that may not be how it is. I think the reason – He caught 30 passes his final year in college.

53:47Jason Moore:The difference is just like Rashad White, very inefficient with what he catches, but very good at catching the ball. Yes. That's the issue. you you even watch these camp drills this year and tank just looks so explosive so good but there's no need to use them in the passing game you've got two guys that can do it yeah it's such a hitch in his giddy up when he goes to catch it's in his head now so i i took dobbins in the ninth by the

54:08Mike Wright:way i took dobbins in the ninth over evan ingram and nobody took evan ingram for the entirety of the rest of the ninth and tenth so i'm taking team pass a full ppr i love evan ingram in a full ppr

54:18Andy Holloway:i'm taking him here all right so i mean playing the game let's see there's one team now going the other direction that needs a tight end uh do you like more than one tight end that's what i was gonna go just double check my ranks of i think there's two tight ends that i am perfectly happy starting the there's actually three guys who i would be okay starting the year um and why is his name kyle pitts kyle pitts is in fact not not one of them um just brett i'm gonna take another rookie just for some upside. We're living that life, guys. Jack Bash. We're taking Jack Bash. The Bash man. They said once the pads came on, the dog was back.

55:05Mike Wright:Rashad Bateman, though. So disrespected. Jack Bash drafted over Rashad Bateman. Forever and always disrespected. Jason, are you taking Bateman?

55:13Jason Moore:I'm not going to take Bateman. I'm going to take a guy who is not under contract. We have no idea if he's going to play, when he's going to play. But we know he's a good player, high draft capital. Before the off-the-field issues, this is a guy who would have gone

55:30Andy Holloway:We know that dude's sitting on your bench for six games minimum.

55:32Jason Moore:Four or five rounds ago, but I'm going to take Quench on Judkins here.

55:36Mike Wright:Yeah, that's the challenge for those out there with Judkins is IR eligibility won't be there.

55:41Jason Moore:Yeah, 10th round is where I'll start just taking more risky options with high upside.

55:47Mike Wright:Betts, who took Rice and Addison earlier, looking at, I think, Ruggs and Watson for this. Oh, no. He did not go there. Judkins off the board to Jason Charbonnet, Warren, Dak, Kyle Williams, not Kyron, Kyle Williams off the board. Mahomes. Getting Mahomes with the second-to-last round pick is – that's funny. That is wild. wild uh i would feel good about it even if what i get on the field wasn't great and kyler same thing two picks later kyler and mahomes with the last round like if i could go back in time and trade in jaden daniels for you know upper echelon talent in the fourth round and come away with kyler in the 11th i might have done that johnny smith off the board as well jason second to last

56:33Jason Moore:pick you're up all right i'm uh still looking at the wide receiver position which as mike alluded to earlier is gross. It's really, really picked over. I'm going to take someone. It's very surprising. It's a full PPR. At the end of last season, he was shockingly good. You're talking 13.5 fantasy points per game, a top 15 wide receiver, and he's the type of player that can get off to a hot start um and that is adam feeling oh wait a minute oh i'm not taking adam oh is that because he was was he already drafted no he's he's there but there is there's a different player right next to him who is i i thought this guy was drafted already in a full anyone who's next to adam theo is gonna look a lot better dude adam feeling was better than you

57:35Andy Holloway:think i know i know but i'm saying looking at drafting adam theeland and there's a name next to you like that person should be wait till wait till i say it okay and then tell me if you still agree with what you thought okay wandale robinson in a ppr absolutely exactly in a full ppr disgusting

57:52Jason Moore:i mean he'll get so many catches at the line of scrimmage for no yards and that's a point

57:56Mike Wright:all right mike you're on the clock still need a tight end over these last two picks wandale was the pick for Jason. We're wrapping up the full PPR three wide receiver mock.

58:05Andy Holloway:Yep, so it's pretty easy for me. Tyler Warren, Colston Loveland, Tucker Craft were the three tight ends who I was perfectly okay going with.

58:12Mike Wright:Warren's gone.

58:13Andy Holloway:Yeah, Warren is now gone. I have Craft a little bit ahead of Loveland, but Colston Loveland might be a boat, guys. He's the number 10 overall pick. We're going to go with it.

58:24Mike Wright:I'm taking Demario Douglas, who's been the number one target for Drake May in camp so far. Also, slot wide receivers do really well for josh mcdaniels douglas is just highlight after highlight so i'm going to mario douglas naji off the board next uh i did have my eye on him fields jaylen mcmillan eckler and chubb round out the 11th round one round left i'm looking at your guys's teams jason right now sitting five wide mike has six i think i have six wide receivers just curious how that broke down iuk finally goes off the board right before me here in the 12th i'm going to use my very last pick guys on keenan allen i'm going to take keenan allen like it why not final pick of a full ppr who who loves ppr more than keenan allen he just doesn't want to do the camp part of the equation this year but he'll probably land on a team that needs him so i'll go with keenan for my final pick all right and i want to get let me see my

59:25Andy Holloway:wide receivers i got four that i really like two rookies i think that's an okay place to be for now so i'm going to take a running back and just in case jerome ford is not it for the cleveland browns i will take their rookie dylan sams did you see uh what the coach said about him i hope

59:43Jason Moore:it's good it wasn't oh no undo the pick he got he the pads came on and he got tackled by he got hit by the defender and he went flying like a little baby boy. His size is and then the coach was like, dude's got to get his shoulders lower. He's like, it was brutal. And the hit is hysterical. Like I said, I took Adam Thielen. I took Adam Thielen.

1:00:07Mike Wright:Oh, you just took him?

1:00:08Jason Moore:Yeah. I think I could have got him a couple rounds later, but this is the last round.

1:00:11Mike Wright:Yeah, I agree with you on that. And I don't share the same optimism for that depth chart. I think they got, I mean, I know Ted's better than he is. I think Coker might be better than he is at this point. Renfro, Leggett. I just don't know if there's room for him anymore. Renfro pulled up lame today. I did see that hamstring. By the way, the 49ers currently working out three-agent running back, Jeff Wilson. A return to San Francisco maybe on the books.

1:00:38Andy Holloway:Man, if you've got Grendel on your dynasty team, you should be terrified right now.

1:00:41Mike Wright:Braylon Allen ends up Mr. Irrelevant, the 22-year-old running back for New York.

1:00:44Andy Holloway:Did you guys see there was a recent blurb? We are in blurb season, but just talking about the Jets' backfield of saying it might be more 1A, 1B, and not because of a knock on Brees Hall, but an improvement from Braylon Allen.

1:01:02Mike Wright:Well, it is also—

1:01:04Andy Holloway:Who is a hulk of a man, if you do not remember.

1:01:07Mike Wright:It is so obvious. Brees Hall's not part of the future plans for the Jets. He will not be getting a contract from them. He knows it. He's come out and talked about it. He said, I'm not their guy. Yes. he said that like it was one of the first times that refrain we've brought up or like hey the gm and head coach they didn't draft me he just said it out loud yeah and if you're not look the jets what is what is their win total projection kyle do you remember it it was five and a half five and a half okay at what point does the five and a half win total jets think about you know are they at the stage i think they hope they are and they have got the guy from the same team that did it where the lions were building a culture and a group of guys that were their guys and they started with almost a winless season remember they won in week 10 under dan campbell how soon do you start to give more and more work to the guy that's going to be there like braylon allen's 22 breeze hall's out the door so that's the concern with breeze it's not that he can't get it done or get another contract it's that you're not the guy and you're if you're not on the way to the

1:02:08Jason Moore:playoffs why do you play that guy it's really rare and ironic but like i have i feel like breeze is better in dynasty than he is in redraft and that is that's just weird for a veteran running back you know what i mean usually it's like oh no i i need my points now when you're getting close to the second contract but i think his next contract he'll be set up better than this

1:02:28Mike Wright:current it could be at least you've got like some trust from somebody he'll still have to deliver but my team ended up Derrick Henry, Jonathan Taylor, and J.K. Dobbins is the only running backs I got on this team. What could go wrong?

1:02:43Andy Holloway:Of the thick of thin, he is in the thin.

1:02:45Mike Wright:It is, yeah. I don't know if I am the if anybody else only has three running backs. That's where I'm at right now. Jaden Daniels is my quarterback. Evan Ingram.

1:02:54Andy Holloway:Well, I got Dylan Sampson as my fourth, but I don't. So you have three running backs.

1:02:58Jason Moore:Yeah, I've got Quinchon Judkins as my fourth, so I'm good.

1:03:01Mike Wright:Evan Ingram to my tight end and then my wideout group, Amon Ra, Worthy, Odunze, Godwin, Debo, Douglas, and Keenan Allen.

1:03:09Jason Moore:Yeah, I've got my running back core, Bajon Robinson, Joe Mixon, Caleb Johnson, and Quinshawn Judkins. Wide receivers are T. Higgins, Mike Evans, Ricky Pearsall, Jaden Higgins, Wandale Robinson, and old man, Adam Thielen. And then I've also got Jalen Hurts and David Njoku.

1:03:30Andy Holloway:I got Christian McCaffrey, DeAndre Swift, Cam Scadaboo, Dylan Sampson are my running backs. My wide out core got Garrett Wilson, Devontae Adams, Terry McLaurin, Josh Downs, Luther Burden, and Jack Besch. And then I have Joe Burrow as my quarterback and the rookie Colston Loveland as my tight end.

1:03:48Mike Wright:All right. And it looks like we'll be sending any of our legal counsel on retainer over to Betsy so that he can manage his roster for the upcoming season.

1:03:57Andy Holloway:Before we close it out, this is just too good to share. I don't know if you guys saw this come through the Camp Highlights channel. Betts just shared it with us. You know, we talk formations a lot. You're like, you know, Jaden Reed, he only gets on the field in 11 personnel because it's one tight end, one running back, you know, and three wide out. Apparently, Arthur Smith and the Pittsburgh Steelers ran out a formation of 0-4. In 0-4 personnel, no backs, four tight ends. I have never heard of him so is Jonu

1:04:32Mike Wright:it's Pat Fryermuth, is Darrell Washington and somebody else? yes

1:04:36Jason Moore:why not no Jonu is in the backfield they're going to run the ball

1:04:42Mike Wright:I was going to say does Metcalf count as a tight end is that why that's a four that is so wild I love it I'm going to be honest I think Metcalf can have a tremendous season but there is plenty of fear in the back of my mind that the wheels come flying off of this team and Tomlin's gone. I mean, it probably won't happen. But all good things even come to an end, right? I mean, it does happen at some point in time. All right, that'll wrap it up. Let us know what you think about the drafts. If you're on YouTube in the comments, feel free to share how dumb we are. And, look, it's fun to test out new – that's what mock drafts are about.

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