Fantasy Football - Mock Draft Show! + Big-Time Values - Podcast for 7/16

16 Jul 2026 · 1 h 4 min · 21 chapters

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Fantasy Footballers Podcast episode: “Fantasy Football - Mock Draft Show! + Big-Time Values - Podcast for 7/16.” Topic: They answer how 6-point vs 4-point passing TD scoring affects QB rankings (they claim it barely changes overall QB draft order; it mainly shifts relative value among rushing QBs like Jalen Hurts vs pure passers like Joe Burrow). They then run a 10-team half-PPR mock draft (3 WR/1 flex, 4 bench) and debate pick strategy and “onesie difference makers” (elite players at scarce positions, especially elite tight ends in 10-team leagues).

Guests

No guest hosts; hosts are Andy Holloway, Jason Moore, and Mike Wright (Andy is absent for 20th wedding anniversary).

Key claims

Late-round QB drafting can be more valuable in streaming formats; elite tight ends and elite QBs matter more in 10-team leagues. They also discuss “third-year WRs” as better value than second-year WRs.

Notable examples

Draft picks include Jamar Chase, Jameer Gibbs, Bijan Robinson, Christian McCaffrey, Jonathan Taylor, CeeDee Lamb, Garrett Wilson, Mike Evans, Rome Odunze, Marvin Harrison Jr., Sam LaPorta, and Joe Burrow.

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Chapters

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The 10 Team Mock Draft Overview

1:21 to 2:27

Hosts discuss the upcoming mock draft and Andy's absence for his anniversary.

Impact of Scoring Format on Quarterback Rankings

2:27 to 3:43

Discussion on how a six-point passing touchdown format affects QB rankings.

“A lot of times people are like, well, no, in my league, they score six per touchdown and therefore quarterbacks score more and therefore quarterbacks are more important in their blah, blah, blah, but they all score more.”

The Ultimate Draft Kit Features

3:43 to 6:50

Hosts promote the Ultimate Draft Kit and its new features for fantasy drafting.

“What it does do is it changes the order of the quarterbacks within where you were already going to draft them, specifically guys like Jalen Hurts, who is a rushing touchdown machine.”

Starting the Mock Draft: Rules and Order

6:50 to 8:43

Detailed explanation of the draft rules and the draft order for the mock.

First Round Picks and Strategy Discussion

8:43 to 14:00

Analysis of the first round of the mock draft and strategic choices made by participants.

“And then Jake, the graphics, baby Jake, will be at the turn at the 110.”

Draft Strategy Insights

14:00 to 15:12

Learn about the importance of detaching emotions from draft decisions and focusing on statistics.

“But he still, when I click the name, I'm still like, uh.”

Analyzing Player Picks

15:12 to 18:28

Discussion on player selections during the draft, focusing on team strategies and positional importance.

“So the first two teams, three different positions to start their draft.”

Round Four Draft Recap

20:40 to 26:45

Review of picks made in the fourth round of the draft and analysis of team compositions.

“It's funny because this worked out well for me at wide receiver because I would have taken Devontae Smith, and I probably would have taken Tett.”

Final Rounds and Key Picks

26:45 to 28:01

Discussion around final picks in the draft and strategic decisions made by the teams.

“So it will be easier for, slightly easier to cover the lack of production at the beginning.”

Drafting Strategies: Mike Evans vs. Devontae Adams

28:01 to 30:06

Learn about the considerations behind choosing veteran wide receivers in fantasy drafts.

“But I'm going to go with what I actually believe.”
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Player Performance Analysis: Luther Burden and Rome Adunze

30:06 to 31:58

Explore the potential of young receivers and their draft positions in fantasy leagues.

“you're asking for trouble um the two players that i wanted to come i was really hoping one of them would be picked, and neither was.”

Evaluating Quarterbacks: Drake May vs. Joe Burrow

31:58 to 33:46

Discuss the merits of selecting quarterbacks in a fantasy draft and the implications of stacking.

“So I think this is one of those where maybe the average scoring system would say, I didn't get the best draft here.”

Running Back Dilemmas: Bucky Irving and Henderson

33:46 to 36:40

Analyze the current running back landscape and the challenges of drafting them in fantasy.

“And the addition of, the subtraction of Rashad White, addition of Kenny Gainwell.”

Draft Round Highlights: Henderson and Judkins

36:40 to 39:23

Examine notable picks in recent draft rounds and their potential impacts on teams.

“Joey got to you in the sixth round in a 10-team league where you really do want the positional advantages of elite players, Joe Burrow in the sixth is great value.”

Year Two vs. Year Three Wide Receivers

40:53 to 42:01

Understand the evolving trends in drafting wide receivers based on their career stages.

“If you're an NFL fan, ESPN is where you need to be this season.”

Evaluating Third-Year Wide Receivers

42:01 to 43:39

Discuss the performance and value of third-year wide receivers in fantasy drafts.

“Second year wide receivers have not really returned on their value the way that they used to.”

Mock Draft Insights and Player Picks

43:40 to 46:24

Insights from various player picks during a live mock draft.

“So DJ Moore goes, Alec Pierce goes to Papa Josh Betts.”

ADP Analysis of Sam LaPorta

46:25 to 48:54

Analyzing the ADP trends of tight end Sam LaPorta and his draft value.

“I hope people understand what an Ironman is, because there's nothing greater than denigrating an accomplishment like running a half Ironman.”

Quarterback and Receiver Dynamics

48:55 to 54:53

Discussing the impact of quarterback injuries on receiver performance.

“Some of them can come through, but I'm not excited about them.”

Ricky Pearsall's Potential

54:54 to 56:00

Exploring the potential impact of Ricky Pearsall in the upcoming season.

“which the exact same thing happened in Cleveland.”

Episode Discussion

56:00 to 1:09:26
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1:03Mike Wright:Welcome to the Fantasy Footballers Podcast with your hosts, Andy Holloway, Jason Moore, and Mike Wright.

1:20Andy Holloway:Ladies and gentlemen, welcome into the podcast. it's a fantasy footballers podcast if you're nasty it's me mike oh thank you my best friend jason moore what up what's going on everybody it is a 10 team mock draft type of day yes it is

1:41Jason Moore:people have been asking for it we said okay

1:47Andy Holloway:something like that our fearless leader you're like hey where where's andy didn't he just didn't he just take some time he did however he is now I'm on his buttons if there's an applause button we can go ahead give me some of that because the people love it Andy is celebrating his 20th wedding anniversary with his lovely wife so he'll be out for the next this one and the next one but that's where he is hey when you've been married for 20 years you get to go out and you need a vacation you get to do a little celebrating but welcome into the show i will be your host mike the fantasy hitman right i will be your host for today uh like i said it is a 10 team mock um let's get into the quick question here we go oh speaking of an andy it's an andy in rhode island says hey fantasy footballers my league of record is quite competitive and we use a six-point quarterback passing touchdown scoring format as opposed to four and they're wondering just how does that truly affect the rankings of the quarterbacks

2:58Jason Moore:jason six-point passing versus four points uh it really really does not affect much i would say this as far as whether you draft a quarterback earlier or later like the position it affects absolutely nothing. I mean, literally nothing. A lot of times people are like, well, no, in my league, they score six per touchdown and therefore quarterbacks score more and therefore quarterbacks are more important in their blah, blah, blah, but they all score more. It really does not affect the, I mean, we've, we've seen studies done on this. In fact, late round quarterback drafting is sometimes even more valuable and easier to capture fantasy points when you get the quarterbacks in the good matchups streaming that can throw a couple of touchdowns predictably.

3:43Jason Moore:What it does do is it changes the order of the quarterbacks within where you were already going to draft them, specifically guys like Jalen Hurts, who is a rushing touchdown machine. Because you get the bonus two points. Right. If you rush it in, you get six. Exactly. And so you just have to think, is this a guy who's going to score a lot of touchdowns on the ground or few touchdowns on the ground, Burrow is going to throw a ton of touchdowns. He's probably not going to rush for a ton. Ironically, on our desk here, we've got Jalen Hurts and Joe Burrow. I think those are the two biggest movers.

4:23Andy Holloway:It doesn't change a lot. The market is still the market. It shifts a couple guys around. Burrow is more valuable. I think Brock Purdy is more valuable in a six-point. so you don't really need to overreact just kind of know that the if you're in a four point the russian guys are gonna be a little bit more valuable uh brooks wants me to remind everyone which is a good reminder the ultimate draft kit which is the only draft kit that you need uh you can get that at ultimatedraftkit.com we're always updating it sleepers breakouts busts values 100 plus player profile videos all of our projections tons and tons of stuff like i said it's the only thing you need for to get you ready for your fantasy football draft we have just recently added a mock draft tool if you have a udk like if you have access you have access to these mock drafts yeah as well it's right there you just got to update it went live on ios and it is live now on android as well but you got to make sure that you've updated your app to the newest version but it should be there and please jump in there have some mocks look around it it's a little bit you know i mean it's a it's a pretty straightforward mock draft tool but you have access to adps from

5:40Jason Moore:other sources where generally you go playing on espn if you're playing on yahoo if you're on these platforms they're not like hey why don't you upload your sleeper right scoring no so i mean or adp you genuinely really should i mean the reason we do these mock draft episodes is they are so valuable and they're the most valuable the reason we do them here the way we do them which is every single person is a human is because that's replicating what we think we're going to experience the most in real life when you're on your platforms your platform's adp has an effect that it shouldn't have but it does and we just all need to recognize that yeah and when you it gets everybody when you do those mock drafts against your platform's adp you can figure out oh this guy falls later than I think he should this guy goes too high different strategies so it's obviously we're not charging anything extra for it we're putting it in the ultimate draft kit if you got the ultimate draft kit you're good we got so many new tools the draft kit's awesome the value scout tool that we just put out recently that's awesome the Felix prospect models there's so much stuff in it so yeah it's a good time to get in yeah ultimatedraftkit.com

6:51Andy Holloway:having said that let's move on

6:56Jason Moore:the fantasy footballers mock draft

7:02Andy Holloway:right into things it is a 10 team half ppr we are doing a three wide receiver one flex and with four bench spots because we got to be able to finish the draft and and get out of here in an appropriate amount of time i have started the draft oh i'll lay it out the draft order the falcon well which ladies and gentlemen the people have with we haven't talked about it for a while go to uh oh yeah hold up your trophy oh what is that you got the trophy

7:33Jason Moore:back so the original holder of the golden toilet so everyone yeah take it all take it all

7:44Andy Holloway:okay uh everyone can sleep easy knowing that the trophy has been returned to

7:49Jason Moore:where it should be and for a reminder for the rules of the trophy just for those you know new listeners um or those who have forgotten when we are ready to record a show yeah and we but the

8:05Andy Holloway:the day before we say recording is at this time right everyone needs to be ready to go at that

8:10Jason Moore:time yeah and when everyone is ready but there's one person who is i don't know maybe on a toilet and can't be there when they're supposed to be yeah they get that trophy you get the trophy

8:21Andy Holloway:changed until someone else it will it's moved around yeah it'll get there we got owl is picking in slot two i am pick three matthew betts the fantasy pts at pick four papa josh at five Kyle Borg, K-Borg, the Borgannoni at 6. Brooks is at 7. Jason, you are at 8. Julia, our editor, is at 109. And then Jake, the graphics, baby Jake, will be at the turn at the 110.

8:49Jason Moore:Oh, man, I hope Gibbs makes it to me.

8:52Andy Holloway:I got bad news for you, Jason. So because of the three wide, I assume, the Falcon went with Jamar Chase at the 101. That doesn't bother me at all. because of the three wide, if you want to start with those wide receivers, the elite guys, that doesn't bother me. But Jameer Gibbs at pick three, that makes it very easy for me to start the draft because Owl took Bijan at the 102. So not a ton of difference here. Just Jamar at 101 is interesting. Betts is going to take Puka, Papa Josh, Amonra, St. Brown. Ooh, Amonra had a JSN Papa Josh. That's kind of spicy. uh jason goes to kyle brooks gets christian mcafree jason you're on the clock i'm on the

9:38Jason Moore:clock and you know i honestly i wanted one of those four wide receivers in this format um if not then obviously i would love uh bichon or gibbs and if not then i'm in the spot i'm in uh

9:51Andy Holloway:there does seem to be after mcafree would you have taken mcafree no no i would oh okay i i um

9:59Jason Moore:Obviously, McCaffrey is well-deserving of being taken. He was last year's, you know, scored the most fantasy points. He does that pretty frequently every couple of years. The volume and the age that he has just seen and is, it genuinely scares me. And I think that, you know, I personally would tie-break that. I've got Jonathan Taylor ahead of him. You know. Okay. Last year before Daniel Jones was injured, Jonathan Taylor was outscoring Christian McCaffrey. but then what happened then Daniel Jones got injured and the Colts couldn't move the ball as well I'm just saying yeah Christian McCaffrey no I I get it um at wide receiver he doesn't care who the quarterback is he just keeps cooking at wide receiver um there's only one guy that would be in consideration here CeeDee Lamb a former you know another player that's been the number one at the position so I'm either taking a guy who's been the number one wide receiver or a guy who's been the number one running back and I will take Jonathan Taylor all right Johnny Taylor goes

10:57Andy Holloway:108 Julia takes CeeDee Lamb putting baby Jake on for the turn he goes with James Cook and Justin Jefferson any issues here with the first round pretty I think it's plain Jane here I think

11:13Jason Moore:it's pretty standard um no no crazy things I'm I'm sitting here at a spot where I almost regret um take already very early i already regret your pick i do because while i do think jonathan taylor and cd lamb both represented kind of the end of their tier um this is your first pick well no listen listen why because to me four players later ashton jenty and omarion hampton are they're not close to taylor i think i think both of those players could end up being a top five running back this season. Whereas the next best wide receiver to me is Drake London. And I love Drake London, but I don't think he's going to be a top five wide receiver.

11:57Jason Moore:So I would rather have CeeDee Lamb and Ashton Gentry rather than Jonathan Taylor and Drake London personally. So I'm going to, this is a mock draft.

12:07Andy Holloway:So CeeDee Lamb, James Cook, then we, the round two has started Justin Jefferson followed by Devon Achan.

12:15Jason Moore:Yeah. So I'm going to play with this and see how it goes starting running back heavy. I'm going to take that. In a three wide. In a three wide receiver. This is why I'm saying I regret, I wish I had started with CeeDee Lamb, but I'm still going to let the draft come to me. I don't feel like I'm going to reach for a position just because, you know, if I think that there is a higher tier player available early, I'm not going to reach down for a different position. So I'm going to take Gentry. I love Gentry. I think he has a chance. Both of these guys, Jonathan Taylor and Ashton Gentry, You have a chance to be top five at the position.

12:53Andy Holloway:So you took Janty. Then when Brooksie went to A.J. Brown in contention, A.J. Brown can definitely be the wide receiver one on the season. Kyle takes Hampton. Papa Josh riding low tee with Amon Ra and Drake London. Then Matthew Betts goes with the Saquon Barkley pick. Interesting. the the Josh being the only team to take two wide outs in a three wide receiver format is interesting I wonder if that's just like the 10 team people feel like they can find some value later so that puts me on the board my big board I look I'm taking a wide receiver oh let me peek so running backs ooh I mean Ken Bone Walker is there as is Chase Brown and Derek Henry I love all three of those guys but I want to get on the wide receiver train here my big board would have rice nico olave and george as my most likely targets here man the rasheed rasheed rice is interesting jason because we're both very bullish and i think that you know if he's on the field he's going to just produce fantasy points and yet But he still, when I click the name, I'm still like, uh.

14:10Andy Holloway:You don't feel good about it. Yeah. Which, I mean, sometimes you've got to be able to remove your emotions from there and just go with the math, the stats, or what you believe the points are going to be. But he still has a little.

14:26Jason Moore:I mean, if you were to take a look at the league and just say, like, odds at someone doing something that hasn't been done yet. Right. Not like, oh, he's going to be suspended for the fact that he went to jail for breaking his parole, but just something new comes up, he would be high up on the list of just knuckleheads.

14:42Andy Holloway:Mahomes is coming off the injury by all accounts. Everything sounds fantastic. I'm going to go away from my rankings just because I want George on my team. Interesting. I'm going with Gibbs and George Pickens as my first two picks. Producer Borland is on the clock. He's going to take Nico to go with Bijan. And the Falcon. Whoa, the Falcon was ready. You want this draft to be done quickly, don't you? He's got to get back to that bathroom. He's sweating over there. So the Falcon on the turn went with Brock Bowers and Ken Bone Walker. It's a mighty trio there. And then Borland took McBride. So the first two teams, three different positions to start their draft.

15:23Andy Holloway:Oh, my goodness. Look, I got to take Rice then because my projections and everything, oh yeah Kyle bring up a great point here of in a people ask us about the onesies a lot in a 10 teamer an elite tight end does change things yes elite tight end and elite quarterback are more important especially elite tight end quarterbacks you can find more streamers but it does make a difference if you have the elite with the elite tight end though is truly a difference maker on a 10 team.

15:59Jason Moore:The reason why is because at the end of a 10 team draft, everyone's team is good. Yes. You're going to have a strong roster. So it's really the guys who score a difference making amount at a position that win championships in 10 team leagues. I'm going to stick with Rasheed Rice though, as you should have. You should have taken Rice over Pickens. You got really lucky. I think that's a great, I mean, starting with Gibbs, the number one running back and then having rice and pickens is an outstanding feeling good it's feeling good

16:33Andy Holloway:so after rice went matthew betts took henry papa joss took chase brown kai borg went with jeremiah love in the 306 okay jeremiah love kyle borg a perhaps a believer that kyle i don't know if you're on mike do you do you feel like love can be a top five guy i think as my rb2 i feel way better here than i normally would in a 12 team league right but but tedroa mcmillan uh garrett wilson davante smith i mean you had like big boy wide receivers there and you went with the running back and i feel okay about it that's the way to be just feel okay brooks takes chris olave to pair with A.J. Brown and Christian McCaffrey.

17:23Andy Holloway:Jason, you're back on the clock. You're high T right now.

17:26Jason Moore:I'm high T. I started with two running backs that I love. I'm looking here. I obviously need to get a wide receiver. However, this is – we just brought it up. In a 10-team league, I am looking to get – there's only – Okay. There's only – honestly, I think there's three of them for sure, which is Bowers, McBride, and Josh Allen. Those three guys to me are onesie difference makers. the guys that will just be scoring a few more points than everyone else's team at that position. And I looked, and I'm like, okay, I'm near the turn. Maybe he would come back to me. There's wide receivers I definitely like more or less, but there are four wide receivers that I would be okay with as my wide receiver.

18:10Jason Moore:One, four picks before me. So if they were to take Josh Allen here, I'd be like, dang it. So even though I would end up with two wide receivers, I'm going to take Josh Allen. I'm going to pull the trigger. take that onesie in a 10-team league and make sure I can lock in. I think those three players are a difference maker in a league like this.

18:29Andy Holloway:All right, so Jason goes Josh Allen, three wide receiver. You have none so far through three rounds. Julia finishes her third round with Tedrow McMillan, and then Baby Jakes took T. Higgins. We're going to take a quick break and get into round four.

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20:44Andy Holloway:before the break baby jake took t higgins to close the third round he starts the fourth the 401 goes with kyron williams then julia gets devontae smith which cd lamb hn tedaro mcmillan devontae smith yeah i like her you gotta be feeling good about that in a three wide to have

21:01Jason Moore:three stud wide receivers and hn yeah you can't be complaining um here i am the i think the player that I wanted the most. It's funny because this worked out well for me at wide receiver because I would have taken Devontae Smith, and I probably would have taken Tett. But the player I really wanted in a three-wide receiver.

21:24Andy Holloway:I did that, and I was like, you know what? I want George.

21:27Jason Moore:Right, yeah, sure. I want Garrett Wilson. I want a guy, since I'm taking my first wide receiver in round four in a three-wide, which is not my normal strategy, I want a guy who's going to go out there and get 160 targets, 180 targets. Yes, he will. And so the talent is there. Obviously, I've made it known how great Geno Smith is. It's known. It is known. So, yeah, I think Garrett Wilson's in for a great year. Okay, so you took Garrett.

21:56Andy Holloway:Brooks took Abuka.

21:58Jason Moore:What is happening?

22:00Andy Holloway:Which, hold on, Brooks' team of McCaffrey, A.J. Brown, Olave, Abuka. I like that. Followed up by Kyle. Kyle, just trying to get the monkey off his back. guys you gotta get your guys Holston Loveland Mr. Loveland Mr. Loveland to you no fantasy analyst out there none has been more vocal in their disgust hatred a irrational disdain absolutely just for no reason yeah he just and then and then because we just wanted all of us to feel bad that we don't get Loveland right right right man he's probably not even he's gonna bench him he's gonna to draft a second tight end. I will say this, Kyle. I know you don't believe this, but it was a great pick.

22:41Jason Moore:Yeah, it was.

22:43Andy Holloway:If Loveland had fallen to me in the fourth, that would have been very difficult to pass. Papa Josh takes Brees Hall. He is balanced with two wide and two running backs. Betts is also balanced. You took Jalen Waddle there. That's an interesting pick. How do you feel about Jalen Waddle in the 407?

23:00Jason Moore:Jalen Waddle is not very exciting to me, but I've brought this up a few times. When I went back and watched the Broncos film and watch Bo Nix deep and the opportunities. The opportunities are there. He did not have a player to take advantage of them. Waddle is a player that can take advantage of them. So I'm open to Waddle being better than I think. Right now I just view Waddle as like the wide receiver 20, you know, wide receiver 24. But I'm open to the fact that he could end up being a wide receiver one this year, so it's okay. I'm lukewarm. him it's like you get in the water and you're like this is nice yeah it's not great but it's okay yeah

23:40Andy Holloway:on the board uh look let me look at the running backs real quick josh jacobs travis hn jr javante bucky hendo you know kind of a little bit of a flat tier there for for me at the wide receiver position the malik neighbors question will be out there when does that happen lad mcconkey luther Burden, Zay Flowers. Those are the guys who are at the top of the ADP. And Jason, you are still the only team that does not have or you're the only team that has a quarterback. At the tight end position, Tyler Warren is still there, but the turn for me is two teams that already have an elite tight end. Smart.

24:23Andy Holloway:Smart, Michael. I can look at that and be like go ahead. I double dog dare you. Ruin your team by wasting another pick on a top tier tight end, but I'm not going to do it. Yeah. I'm going to force them to make that decision. I'm going with my guy. I'm taking Zay Flowers. Okay. Zay Flowers in the fourth, maybe a little bit early on the ADP, but my wide receiver three was a top 10 guy last year with over 1 ,200 receiving yards.

24:51Jason Moore:So I feel pretty similar to Zay as I do about Waddle. however i'm more confident that ow what are you doing well i'm going all in on my guy oh ow went jacobs and christian watson what he's going packers heavy okay so i took zay flowers

25:11Andy Holloway:the owl boyland josh jacobs at the four night which that's that's fine jacobs there and then the falcon went with cam scadaboo opens up the fifth round with lad mcconkey then owl with Christian Watson. I had Jacobs, then Flowers, then Watson in my queue. Josh Jacobs, all in on the Green Bay Packers with a fourth and fifth round pick. That's right. Go Pack Go. That's riding kind of dirty. I had set up the plan of Tyler Warren is there. This is a PPR format, which I think does elevate Tyler Warren. because I'm in on Tucker Craft. I'm in on George Kittle as I'm just free in the wind. I'm going to draft them as if they are not hurt, and if that comes back and hurts me later, it's just a risk that this offseason I am willing to take.

26:09But Malik Neighbors, as a wide receiver four,

26:17Andy Holloway:That's interesting. I'm going to go ahead and do it. I'm going to take Malik with this build of Jameer, George, Rasheed, Rize, Zay Flowers, Malik neighbors. Obviously, I have the wide receivers. I need to fill out the rest of my team, but if Malik is back to anything remotely Malik-esque by week four, week five, then my four-pack of wide receivers will be devastating.

26:46Jason Moore:yeah i i mean i had i had neighbors on my like he was who i was targeting the most okay even though obviously i'm only one wide receiver i also view that you can view that in two different ways you can be like well you really need a guy who's going to be on the field week one sure but also when he gets back on i will be loaded and star powered studded um starting without wide receivers to get Malik back.

27:12Andy Holloway:Also, 10-teamer. Mm-hmm. So it will be easier for, slightly easier to cover the lack of production at the beginning. So I take Malik. Matthew Betts went Terry McLaurin. Papa Josh took Tyler Warren. Then Kyle. Ooh, Kyle was going elite onesies. I don't blame him. He follows up his incredible pick, his incredibly hurtful, spiteful pick of Colston Loveland with Lamar Jackson. Brooksy takes Drake May so they have their quarterbacks Jason you're up you have Johnny Taylor, Ashton Genthy, Josh Allen Garrett Wilson where are you looking?

27:49Jason Moore:So I'm pretty happy I wanted Malik to fall to me but I'm very happy with I'm going to get two wide receivers here at this turn and I don't even care there's enough wide receivers that I like on the board I'm not scared of the four that are going to go at this turn Julia already has three so there's two players that I really want to come back to the next one this pick I'm actually going to pull the trigger on an old man and the question is whether I whether I go Devontae Adams or Mike Evans because Mike Evans projects to be the clear number one wide receiver I like Brock Purdy I believe in Mike Evans a lot this year Devontae Adams had you know he was just what was he like He was a top 15 wide receiver last year.

28:36Jason Moore:Led the league in touchdowns. But I'm going to go with what I actually believe. I believe Mike Evans still has it. I don't think he's lost anything. I think he's going to be the leader for a good offense and prove that he is a second ballot Hall of Fame wide receiver.

28:56Andy Holloway:All right. So you have taken Mike Evans as your wide receiver too. Jules took DeAndre Swift. julia's team is really good uh baby jakes luther burden at the end of the fifth the 510 that's that's fine like that's a fine area jason and i were talking luther burden on uh the footcast of this week and uh it was kind of me lamenting just luther burden's adp is so high of there is just like he's already done it I like to use the phrase the risk is baked in the risk is completely

29:37Jason Moore:the reward is baked in the reward is baked in if he's really good then you got him where he's supposed to be really good yes

29:47Andy Holloway:his ADP is tough because I really believe in the player and the situation and I hope he works out but that is it's tough baby jakes he takes javante williams next julia took davante adams so that old man is no longer available for you jason which i wasn't going to go the two you

30:05Jason Moore:can't put double you can't put mike evans and davante adams on the same team that's uh you're you're asking for trouble um the two players that i wanted to come i was really hoping one of them would be picked, and neither was. Carnell Tate, you know, a top, you know, the number four.

30:24Andy Holloway:Sixth round to get a wide receiver of his, you know, production, his draft stock, that's fantastic.

30:34Jason Moore:And so I'm between him and Rome Adunzi. I know we've had that conversation of, you know, you don't necessarily believe it's Rome. I look back, I went back and I watched the tape. I mean, Rome was the dude. Rome was the wide receiver three at the beginning of last season before he got injured and then struggled with it. But he burned very hot with touchdowns. Yes, yes, he did. But he was also on pace for, I mean, he was clearly the leader in target share, in yardage, and pretty much every statistic at the beginning of the year.

31:06Andy Holloway:I feel like he was only putting up like 60 a week, though.

31:11Jason Moore:On the yardage, I don't know, but target market share, I know he was very high.

31:15Andy Holloway:Yardage through the first four.

31:19Jason Moore:What was he on pace for?

31:20Andy Holloway:Here, I'm going to go. You're going to make it worse? Well, I can. I was just trying to make the sample a little bit bigger. So the first month, he was averaging 74 yards. So he had 37, 128, but then a game of 62 and 69.

31:35Jason Moore:He would have been on pace for 148 targets, 85 receptions, 1 ,258 yards, And then 21 touchdowns, which obviously that's not going to happen. Man, it's really tough between those two guys. I'm not a big believer in Cam Ward. When I watch the tape, I want pieces of the Chicago offense. I'm going to do it. I'm going to take – this is the draft where it's like Mike Evans and Roma Dunze. I'm reaching for both of them above where they usually go. So I think this is one of those where maybe the average scoring system would say, I didn't get the best draft here. But you take who you believe in. And I do believe in Mike Evans and Roma Dunze.

32:15Jason Moore:And it doesn't matter what the expectations are. It just matters what do they actually do this year.

32:20Andy Holloway:So you took Rome. Brooks went Travis H. Ann Jr. Kyle took Carnell Tate. Papa Josh took Bashaw Tootin, who probably would have been my pick had he made it to me. And then Matthew Betts went with Jamison Williams.

32:38Jason Moore:One thing we didn't talk about last round, Brooks took Drake May as the quarterback three. Right. It doesn't bother me.

32:48Andy Holloway:No, it does not bother me of what he was able to do last. You can say schedule this year. That's okay. But he beat the crap out of people last year. The playoff run was terrible. But in the regular season, he was just beating people up. And now he has A.J. Brown, which Brooks also has A.J. Brown. So he took his stack.

33:11Jason Moore:The stack makes sense. I guess I was forgetting that he took A.J. Brown in the second round. Joe Burrow sitting there would be hard for me to take Drake May over him. but if you want the stack, that makes sense.

33:26Andy Holloway:Yeah, you're too in the McDaniels system. I can see it. I don't have a problem with Drake May going there. Now, for my squad, I am back on the clock. I only have one running back and the four wide receivers. Running back-wise, ADP, we got Bucky, which, goodness gracious, are there any running backs that just feel as meh as Bucky right now it's it's really unfair I feel like I just I need to I need to get some Mountain Dews and throw on some Bucky Irving highlights and just try to recapture and remember the feelings because last year Bucky was like the

34:08Jason Moore:running back seven in drafts because he was that good as a rookie he was supposed to be a superstar And then last year, he got injured. He dealt with injuries all year.

34:17Andy Holloway:And the addition of, the subtraction of Rashad White, addition of Kenny Gainwell.

34:22Jason Moore:See, that could easily be neutral. That could very easily be. I mean, I know we're like, oh, Kenny Gainwell is better than Rashad White. Rashad White was very involved, very much a part of this team the last couple years. It's not like they just added Kenny Gainwell. They added Kenny Gainwell, and they got rid of Rashad White. If Bucky comes out the way that he was as a rookie, this will be his backfield. He could be a phenomenal pick. But it is really tough, and I agree with you. You're just like what we saw last year while he was injured was, you know, one of the biggest busts in fantasy football.

34:56Jason Moore:So it's tough to pull the trigger on him. It is. It's hard to bounce back. What running back number are we at right now? I mean, there's got to be – you've got to be – are we drafting the 26th running back yet? because that's wild for Bucky to be there.

35:10Andy Holloway:I don't know. You would have to. Why don't you just tell me how many running backs we have drafted? Kyle says RB22. 22, yeah. So that's fine. So running backs, Bucky is there. Henderson is there. At this point of a draft, I don't think that it's terrible. Henderson early in the fourth or so, I just can't do that. Judkins those are kind of the top of ADP for the running back position at wide receiver DJ Moore Brian Thomas Jordan Tyson is interesting Marvin Harrison uh you know the the tight ends had there's Tyler Warren was taken but other than that the that's kind of the status quo Fannin Craft uh Kincaid Laporta you know the usual suspects are there now quarterback wise three have been taken we're in the sixth so we could go i could take joey b right here i could take jayden which both of those guys i think are fair uh projections are fair picks to be the overall qb1 on the season you know a dac would be my preferred stack of the of the remaining quarterbacks, but will Dak fight to be the number one quarterback?

36:33Andy Holloway:I'm just not sure that he'll be able to do that. I'm going to go ahead and I'm going to take Joe Burrow here.

36:39Jason Moore:I figured when Joey got to you in the sixth round in a 10-team league where you really do want the positional advantages of elite players, Joe Burrow in the sixth is great value. So Owl saw that and he said,

36:53Andy Holloway:I need to get in. So he took a quarterback. I was going to take Burrow there. He took Jayden Daniels. At the corner, the Falcon has taken Bucky and Brian Thomas, and he's upset. Which stack were you upset about? The Chase Burrow. Oh, the Jamar. Oh, man. You were sitting there in the shadows. Yeah, I'm bummed. Too bad for you. I took him. So you took Bucky. You took Brian Thomas. And then, Al, you took Jordan Tyson as we head here to the seventh. Yeah, I think that's a fantastic pick there. A lot of upside. So, running back-wise, I still only have the one running back. I think it might be time to try and shake that up.

37:44Andy Holloway:I'll take Henderson. Henderson at the 703 just seems – that's not a problem. The risk has been absorbed. at that point.

37:52Jason Moore:I like you taking him because, you know, last year you were so in on him as, as a rookie. It turned out great. He, he had a slow start, but proved that he was very good. The rest of the regular season, obviously into the playoffs, they, they stopped using them, which is he, he was still being used.

38:09Andy Holloway:I don't know. I just Ramondre, it freaks me out what they could do on a week to week basis.

38:13Jason Moore:Yeah. But it's, um, it just makes me feel good inside to see Henderson go to your team. Oh, I mean, I don't like it for me because I was praying Henderson got to me. Uh, but I wanted one of three running backs to get back to me. I wanted either Henderson.

38:27Andy Holloway:So before I took Henderson, Matthew Betts took Jalen Hurts, then went Parker Washington and David Montgomery. That was one of the others.

38:35Jason Moore:And Tucker craft goes to Brooks. And so I will end up with the third of the three guys that I wanted, but I think Quinchon Judkins, he proved a lot. I know you look at the... Henderson and Judkins in this round feels wild. Yeah, I mean, he might have been inefficient in total yards per carry, but he's behind a bad offensive line. He looked great. They spent a top-ten pick on the offensive line. They've made some changes where I think lanes will open up. Judkins really was impressive as a rookie, and he's the whole show. So if he gets the passing work as well, which maybe it'll be Dylan Sampson, but Judkins is a quality player who really is going to own the vast majority of a backfield.

39:20Andy Holloway:It's not, you know, unfortunately it's the Browns. The timing of the pick here, it'll be magnified here when I say, you took Quinshawn Judkins, Jules with the next pick took Ramondre Stevenson, which I'm not saying is a bad pick, but it's just like, man, okay, that's interesting that Judkins fell there. Jalen Warren for Pittsburgh will close out the round to baby Jake. We're going to take one more quick break, and we'll be back with the rest of the draft.

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41:25Andy Holloway:Jake opens up round eight, takes his guy. He takes the Iceman, Caleb Williams, Chicago Homer, gets his quarterback at a very good value. No problems there. Jules goes with George Kittle. I have huge problems with that as I would have taken him with one of my next two picks, but I will not do that anymore. Jason, you're on the clock.

41:46Jason Moore:So a couple of years ago, and I would say this was like six years ago, we talked about it. We put out articles about it. what a cheat code drafting year two wide receivers was. No matter how, they just never moved up ADP enough. And like half a decade ago. Until last year. Well, that's. It was the worst thing ever. The actual, it's not just last year. It's the last couple years. Second year wide receivers have not really returned on their value the way that they used to. And part of that's ADP. Part of that's maybe the progression of the actual players. But what we've seen recently is that third-year wide receivers are the ones that are actually surprisingly hitting.

42:29Jason Moore:And so I'm going to – I mean, I know. I'm just scooping up every player that, like, I don't want Rome. He's not going to be good. Oh, Mike Evans is old. Marvin Harrison Jr., welcome to the club. All I need is Rome or Marv, one of these two top ten third-year wide receivers who should and could be the leader of their team to hit. and then my team is loaded. If either one of them hit, if both of them hit, then I'm ecstatic. All right.

43:00Andy Holloway:No one's willing to take a third punch in the face from Marv like Jason Moore. No, I will. I'll take it. So you took Marv. Brooksy took Jadarian Price. That's a tremendous value. Kyle takes DJ Moore. Kyle seems to be the most willing to see the potential upside for DJ Moore of our group.

43:21Jason Moore:I refuse to see it. And it definitely feels like, oh, I could be wrong. Honestly, I thought about taking DJ Moore here because I have Josh Allen. Like, hey, if DJ Moore comes through, take that stack. I just really don't believe it, so I'm not going to do it. This is a draft where I'm just taking things more on what I believe will happen.

43:44Andy Holloway:So DJ Moore goes, Alec Pierce goes to Papa Josh Betts. Oh, I was sweating on Betts's pick for a little bit. Cause I was eyeing Harold Fannin that entire run of hate to hate everything about his situation, except for the fact that he's very good and he can be the, he, he could be the number one target for Cleveland with, while we're sorting it like Casey Concepcion and Boston first and second round picks for Cleveland they're getting really good press over the offseason I just saw another blurb like well hold on at least for the beginning of the year Jerry Judy will still be the number one wide receiver which ha is what I say that's what I say to that but Harold Fannin could end up being the guy I saw a sweat in Jay yeah and then he takes DK Metcalf and so you have DK Metcalf you have to you were so i was so happy yeah i was so happy to not only see my guy come through but a guy who

44:48Jason Moore:i just won't i'm not yeah you would never i i think it would be the 11th round and you'd be like we're like no no thank you yeah you'd be like give me uh stefan diggs so uh if the turns

45:00Andy Holloway:they still have their their tight ends if they want to take uh another guy then go ahead but I will take the player who I think I've talked about more than anyone in this. It's an offseason. I'll take J.K. Dobbins here. Starting quarter or running back for the Broncos?

45:15Jason Moore:Dobbins is like running backs really deplete quickly. And once all of the main starters are gone, like we took in a couple rounds ago, the Henderson, Montgomery, Judkins, we kind of, Tyler Warren, we scooped up like the last of all of it. And then way later in a draft usually is just Dobbins sitting there as like the last great pick at running back. And it's one of those like every round you got to be sweating. If you're really weak at running back or you went elsewhere and you went hero RB, I just watch him in drafts and go, man, I hope he gets to me. It's a great pick. Wait, Betts, did you mean to take DK Mecca?

45:58Andy Holloway:I guess you're probably – he said no. Who are you going to take, Betts? That's funny. Who were you going to take? The world has to know. You said Metcalf was a fat-thumb situation. Oh, you were going to take Fannin? Fat-thumb situation.

46:08Mike Wright:What a loser.

46:10Andy Holloway:Oh, man. Hold on, hold on. Harold Fannin, thank you. Oh, that's great. You fat-thumbed DK Metcalf?

46:17Jason Moore:Man, lose some weight, Betts. Why don't you go run another Ironman?

46:20Andy Holloway:Do a full Ironman.

46:21Jason Moore:Yeah, do a full one. You did a half Ironman. Oh, man. You're half a man. Okay, so I took Dobbins. I hope people understand what an Ironman is, because there's nothing greater than denigrating an accomplishment like running a half Ironman. It feels so good to make fun of doing something that was just half after. Yeah, I shout at you covered in chips laying on my couch

46:45Andy Holloway:with my shirt riding and my tummy hanging out. I got to unbutton that. Do a full one, you loser. Okay, so I took Dobbins. Then it went Chuba Hubbard and Makai Lemon to close out the round. the Falcon takes Jackson Dart as his quarterback Jordan Addison goes to Al I sprinted to the podium and I took Harold Fannin Betts takes Tony Pollard DK Metcalf followed up by Tony Pollard he's taking all your favorites Mike dude Matthew get some help it's okay man go outside get some sun on your face good lord uh papa josh takes jonathan brooks josh downs to to kyle brooksy takes jerry rice aka michael wilson of the arizona cardinals jason you are on the clock this is so weird it's going to

47:39Jason Moore:happen again it happened the last mock draft at six o 'clock this morning just had the a.m the a.m 6 19 a.m to be precise i uh yeah kyle says it was early i texted kyle because i just was thinking about this player and i was like kyle what's give me the adp for the last three years for sam laporta because i i spent a lot of this offseason talking about how what a bad pick laporta is yeah you have and i and i i really believed it and meant it because sam laporta two years ago was in the third round. So last year, Sam LaPorta was in the fifth round. And to start this offseason, Sam LaPorta was always the fifth tight end off the board.

48:24Jason Moore:He was always the fifth tight end off the board. It was the big four. And then LaPorta was like the next man up. It's not happening that way anymore. It's really not. Now you're talking about, I mean, look at this draft. You've had Tucker Craft, George Kittle, and Harold Fannin go off the board. We're in the ninth round. at that point I think you know Laporta is in a situation for a team has the talent has the touchdown opportunities where he probably should be the 5th tight end off the board that's where I don't want to take him because if he's the 5th tight end off the board and I'm giving up a Roma Dunze or a Judkins to take him I'm not going to but right now what I'm giving up you know if I'm looking you know I'm looking at the wide receivers and it's Ricky Pearsall, Chris Gowen, Jacoby Myers.

49:12Jason Moore:Some of them can come through, but I'm not excited about them. So I really do think Sam Laporte has gone from a player that... Oh, the turd emojis are flying. I'm sure I could never guess who that would be. What? Who has the turd toilet? Yeah, that's the foul.

49:30Andy Holloway:What time did you wake up this?

49:32Jason Moore:About 6 in the morning.

49:34Andy Holloway:Okay, so 6 a.m. is Rob I woke up at 6.10. So nine minutes after waking up, you're like, you know what? That's Sam Laporta. It was actually.

49:46Jason Moore:His ADP's all right. It was actually five minutes. The answer came at 6.19. It was 6.15 when I sent the message. I can tell you my morning. I woke up. I went to the bathroom. Think about Laporta. I peed sitting down, as I will do in the morning and every time. And then while I'm scrolling on my phone with my morning pee, I was thinking fantasy football. That's what I do. And they're like, you know what? Sam Laporta is like, he is a good player in a good situation. You were doing the Laporta potty. Oh, my goodness. I was literally doing the Laporta potty. Oh, man. And so it came to fruition. I think, you know, if he's at the ninth round, that's a – I'll go so far as to say it's a great pick.

50:27Andy Holloway:After Laporta, Jules takes huge baby Jake, Cortland Sutton to finish the ninth. He opens the tenth with Kyle Pitts. Disgusting. you gotta take someone I guess Julia takes Dak as her quarterback Jason you're back up

50:43Jason Moore:so we have three picks left three picks left I'm looking at my roster I've got three running backs in uh Jonathan Taylor Ashton, Gentey, Quinchon, Judkins really happy there my wide receivers I started later but I like them in Garrett Wilson, Mike Evans, Robo Dunzey, and Marvin Harrison they're not as strong I don't have like the elite elite you know Puka Nakua, Jamar Chase, JSN type of player so I think I need to take more shots at wide receiver and when I'm taking shots at wide receiver it's different different ways to think about it right like Michael Pittman is out there I like Michael Pittman I think he leads the team in targets he's going to be short to the line of scrimmage not high upside Aaron Rodgers is not going to throw a ton of touchdowns so I don't know

51:27Andy Holloway:that he fits my mold of Michael Pittman higher lower than 8.1 yards per catch I'll go higher okay you could have made that a little I think he's I was trying to find a number that's low

51:42Jason Moore:but not comically low right I think if you gave me like 9.5 that'd be a tough line okay um so I'm really looking now, I'm not looking at players that have a good baseline. Like Jacoby Myers, good player. Wandale Robinson, good player. But I don't think they can break out and be something special. So when I'm looking at someone that could break out and be something special, I am really looking at young players. Casey Concepcion. I'm looking at players whose opportunity and past have shown, like Jaden Reed. Jaden Reed with the departure of Romeo Dobbs, the fact that he has been really good on the field before.

52:25Jason Moore:I'm just hoping he gets more involved. And then, of course, you could take Matthew Golden. I'm going to take one of those two. So let's talk about that. Matthew Golden and Jaden Reed. Matthew Golden will be on the field in two wide receiver sets. Jaden Reed is better than Matthew Golden. So how am I supposed to interpret that?

52:41Andy Holloway:The most difficult thing for Green Bay receivers over the last couple years has been the overall utilization of getting guys in certain roles, really heavily rotating your crew. So I feel like... Okay, I know my pick. I feel like now that they've cleared house, I think it will be mostly Watson and Matthew Golden on the field.

53:11Jason Moore:I agree with you. I think it will be mostly Watson and Golden on the field. I still think that Jaden Reed can break out and Matthew Golden can break out. However, I think there's a good chance that a Matthew Golden pick is lighting it on fire. I think it just might not be good and it could be lighting it on fire. I don't think Jaden Reed is lighting it on fire. and my team could just use another, like maybe he's not the best, but he's usable, great. But I do think that he has the talent potential team opportunity and vacated targets where he could step up and be special.

53:46Andy Holloway:So you went with Jaden Reed. Kyle Monongai went next to Brooks. I don't – that's great, actually. Monongai in the 10th? Yeah, I think Monongai, you know, I'm very in on DeAndre Swift, but you have to admit what the real numbers were. It was a split by the end. I just prefer DeAndre Swift with the juice and the pass catching. But there is definitely a world where Kyle Monungay takes more of a role away from Swift this year. So him in the 10th, I think that's great. Concepcion to Kyle, Papa Josh, Chris Godwin, I think that's a sensational pick. We got news via the Netflix quarterback show that Baker got hurt in week two.

54:38Andy Holloway:Kyle, if you could track down exactly what the injury that they've said that he was suffering from, or Betts, if you've got it. MCL and PCL sprains. That's what it was, Betsy? It's like Baker was very hurt. And Baker, unfortunately, how tough he is, which the exact same thing happened in Cleveland. Baker played through so much injury instead of taking the time off to heal that they kicked him out of Cleveland because his play got so bad because he was so hurt. Two years ago, three-quarters of the way through the season, Baker Mayfield is getting MVP chance for the stadium. last year yes he lost Liam Cohen but he just he looked real real bad well from week two on he was dealing with some some very severe injuries the Bucs bouncing back you know that's all you know that's a buka and everything too but Chris Godwin from reports of the offseason he's going to be in the slot he might go right back into being like you might get one more vintage year of Chris Godwin was my entire diet.

55:45Jason Moore:I think you could. Obviously, he's much older, not as explosive coming off the injury. So, yeah, I mean, the opportunity is there for him with Mike Evans gone, and we've seen him do it. We know that one of the best predictors of future success is past success.

56:04Andy Holloway:So I am going to look at a player here who last year he opened the year with 108 yards, followed by 56, followed by 117 yards, and then gets hurt. Misses a bunch of games, but then comes back, and he closes the season with 6 for 96 and 5 for 85. He has not been talked about very much on this show, but I'm opening my heart a little bit to Ricky Pearsall, former first-round pick for the San Francisco 49ers.

56:35Jason Moore:I mean, his, you know, Mike Evans, there's no chance I would not have taken Ricky Pearsall over Jaden Reed if I didn't have Mike Evans. Oh, OK. Well, there you go. I mean, at this point in a draft, that is a really good pick. A former number one, a former first round wide receiver for a team that desperately needs someone who has shown in small blips that he was good but just got injured.

57:00Andy Holloway:And unfortunately, he has a pretty good bit on the show, which is more of a derogatory. Ricky Mouse. Hey, everybody. It's me, Ricky. Oh, boy. It doesn't help things. It doesn't help me have a positive association with that. But I think we need to at least be open to Ricky. Owl takes Michael Pittman. Falcon takes RJ. Dude, RJ Harvey. Yeah. What have we done?

57:29Jason Moore:I mean, I don't think he'll go. What have we done to RJ Harvey? I don't think he'll go this low everywhere else. So we talk about we do these mock drafts with all humans so that we can get realistic drafts. However, that means that the people we have in here, they're part of our crew. Yeah, they're part of our hive. They're listening to us all the time. They're part of our hive. They're part of our bubble. And so the anti-RJ Harvey talk has just infected everyone here. I think in your average draft, R.J. Harvey will go much, much higher.

58:00Andy Holloway:And so Harvey goes, then followed by Matthew Golden, followed by Rico Dowdle to Owl, which I think that's a great pick as well. I am back on the clock. We are now at the time of the draft where I need to take a running back either from Minnesota or from Washington. And they're all there. That's how wild. Nebulous those situations are, yeah. So Aaron Jones and Jordan Mason from Minnesota, and then Bill and Rashad White from the Washington Manders. I don't know fully what to make of the Minnesota situation. I felt like it was Aaron Jones. Then there was some news online that maybe it's more Jordan Mason.

58:43Andy Holloway:Then that news kind of got watered down of that's not really what the reporter was trying to get across. so at least for now because of the pass catching i'm gonna i'll i'll go with aaron jones here at the 1103 that puts bets on the clock he is last couple picks with dk metcalf tony pollard blake quorum he takes kenny gainwell papa josh goes bill kyle takes rashad white so the washington guys go back to back brooksy takes wandale robinson at the 1107 jason you're back on the

59:17Jason Moore:clock yeah so i'm i'm probably sitting here because i've got laporta and i've got josh Allen I'm not really looking even though there's there's great options I mean Justin Herbert Trevor Lawrence sitting there um that's amazing to just I mean this is part of why when people are like um you know the reason I take Josh Allen is because if you're average if you're just middle of the pack at quarterback then you could just stream off the waivers if Justin Herbert finishes this draft on waivers you're fine you have to have the elite of the elite um Arande Gadsden is sitting there as like a flyer high end tight end but with laporta and josh allen i don't think i'm gonna do that which means i'm gonna go with a running back and a wide receiver to finish this i've got two running backs that i like one of them there is no way he will go before i get him because it is disgusting um oh boy it is disgustingly gross uh so i'm gonna disgustingly disgusting so i'm going to look at the wide receiver position one last time and i'm I'm going to scroll down through and look for high upside picks.

1:00:20Jason Moore:And here at the end of the draft, here's the names that would stick out to me as far as could surprise be high upside. Denzel Boston, a rookie. Travis Hunter, obviously the number two pick last year. Omar Cooper, a first-round pick this year. Tyreek Hill sitting out there. But I'm going to take a guy where I think the opportunity is a little bit.

1:00:42Andy Holloway:Just to fill in, don't forget about Steph Diggs and Keenan Allen. I think both of those guys will have a team here in the next couple weeks.

1:00:49Jason Moore:Keenan is a great pick. I don't know. Is Steph Diggs getting more stuff in the news right now? I feel like I don't know if a team is going to want to play with Diggs. But I do think Keenan Allen plays.

1:01:00Andy Holloway:Did he have 1 ,000 yards last year? Yes, he did. Yes, he did. Off of his injury? Yeah.

1:01:05Jason Moore:I'm going to take another rookie, Antonio Williams, rookie wide receiver. That would have been my last pick. For the commanders. it's right now with Brandon Ayuk going insane it's basically Terry McLaurin and they need someone so they've got a high draft pick Antonio Williams the opportunity is there so I'll swing the fences on him

1:01:27Andy Holloway:Jaden Higgins and Jacoby Myers close the 11th the 12th opens with Charbonnet that's not a bad pick in the 12th room right on your IR Keaton Mitchell goes to Jewel's team the backup running back for the Chargers

1:01:42Jason Moore:I think he should be drafted I told you I had two running backs one would certainly get back to me because he's disgusting but the other one also got back to me I'm going to take Jordan Mason Jordan Mason could be the starter you took Aaron Jones last round we don't know TBD but the opportunity of a good offense or at least a good offensively coached team with good weapons the disgusting running back Kyborg just took him Isaiah Pacheco. Oh, you are right. Isaiah Pacheco. You are right. But here's the thing. David Montgomery, I know they want to give the ball to Gibbs more. They do. But they can't give him what David Montgomery had.

1:02:25Jason Moore:I mean, David Montgomery had like 250 touches. There is a ton of secondary work here. And when I look at their depth chart, it's just no one else. See me, I forget his name. Valco, I don't even remember the other. I was tuned out, so I don't even know. The Lions depth chart at running back. I mean, there's just not much behind Isaiah Pacheco. So should Gibbs go down, Pacheco would be, you know, basically. Yeah, that's why I don't remember. Sione Vacky. Shoney. Shoney. Okay. I don't know how to say his name. I apologize. But when you're, you know, third string on a depth chart, I don't always know how to pronounce your name when it's spelled like that.

1:03:10Jason Moore:Oh, we do have some breaking news. Okay.

1:03:14Andy Holloway:Betts is sharing this just in. The Saints and Alvin Kamara have agreed to a restructured contract to keep him.

1:03:24Jason Moore:This is just them kicking some contract further down the road. They'll cut him after this year. But that means they keep him this year. Rumbelai is the guy. I mean, yes. The reason I'm booing is because I've got Rumbelaya in our main Dynasty League, and I think he would be very good without Alvin Kamara there. But Alvin Kamara, if he's there, he's going to take work. He's going to take passing work, and that just really sucks for the upside.

1:03:51Andy Holloway:So you went Jordan Mason. Krod goes to Brooks. Pacheco. Papa Josh says Justin Herbert, Trevor Lawrence. Need the stack. Jared Goff. He takes Jared Goff? Josh.

1:04:05Mike Wright:Give me that stack, baby.

1:04:06Andy Holloway:over Josh. The stack is fun. The stack is something that you do want to have. You want the variance. You want the upside. But Trevor Lawrence is there.

1:04:19Jason Moore:I was just going by the UDK, man. You guys have Jared Goff one spot above. Okay, but you realize that Trevor Lawrence would have given you a stack as well, right? Okay, I'm just saying. You could have had a stack. The truth is, those quarterbacks will be on waivers.

1:04:34Andy Holloway:What are you even talking about good grief all right so i am i'm on the clock here let's see we'll just go look at the go with the rookies so boston's there omar cooper man the rookie wide receivers are just unfortunately not very exciting to me do you have anyone in that list Jay that I mean of after Boston of Omar Cooper Jacoby Lane Zachary Branch Jeremy Bernard

1:05:10Jason Moore:where are you with Ted Hurst I mean I I like Ted Hurst I think that he has the opportunity to come into that Mike Evans role um so he would be high up on my list Chris Bell um a former projected first round wide receiver who got injured and now he is basically certainly able to be the one for the Dolphins who have no one to compete. Dijon Stribling although you already took your shot in Ricky Pearsall and then of course Omar Cooper I didn't man I really did not think that he deserved to be a first round pick but he was a first round pick he is very explosive. Do you put anything into the Adonai Mitchell chatter for the Jets.

1:05:55Jason Moore:I think Adonai Mitchell's a better wide receiver than Omar Cooper. And then they have Sadiq. And then obviously Garrett Wilson's taking most of them. So there's a reason Omar Cooper's sitting here. The last name I would throw out there from the rookies is Zachariah Branch. A little tiny jitterbug. Third rounder, I think, by the Falcons. I don't remember what round, but he's on the Falcons. He was a screen warrior, you know, like a behind-the-line line of scrimmage is where his targets but he reminded me and there's not very many people that can remind you of Tyreek Hill in um and remember Tyreek Hill in his rookie year he was built stronger but Tyreek Hill like in dynasty leagues was on waivers so he's not a guy that came in super highly touted and you know it's like Kyle Pitts Drake London and they need someone so I think he'll have the opportunity to show he's special if he's special and those are all the only names that I see of the rookies.

1:06:50Andy Holloway:All right, Jay, run your team for the people.

1:06:53Jason Moore:All right, my team, I've got my onesies of Josh Allen and Sam Laporta again. Running backs, Jonathan Taylor, Ashton Gentty, Quinshawn Judkins, and Jordan Mason, a four-pack there, and then at wide receiver in this three-wide full PPR, Garrett Wilson, Mike Evans, Roma Dunze, Marvin Harrison Jr., Jaden Reed and Antonio Williams took the shotgun approach.

1:07:17Andy Holloway:Running back, I got Jameer. I went hero RB with Jameer Gibbs, but Henderson fell to me in the seventh. So I got Gibbs, Hendo, J.K. Dobbins, and Aaron Jones are my four-pack. The wide receiver, I got George, Rasheed Rice, Zay Flowers, Malik, Neighbors, Ricky Pearsall, and then I took Stephon Diggs as just the flyer with my last pick. Joey B. Joe Burrow is my quarterback, and Harold Fannin is going to round out my team at the tight end position. that is going to do it everyone thank you so much for listening thank you all for taking time to do the mock everybody if you want to follow us on socials x.com slash the ff ballers right man I said x so it screwed up my entire flow the ff ballers correct you can watch the show which we if you're watching on youtube youtube.com slash the fantasy footballers we're showing you all the picks I know that a mock is a lot of names just flying out there so if you want that aspect to enjoy the show.

1:08:15Andy Holloway:You can watch it as well, but that is going to do it. Thank you so much for everyone tagging along with me and Jason on today's episode. We will see you on Saturday. We are talking NFC North. I believe that's a fun division. We'll see you all there. Goodbye.

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