Fantasy Football - NFC East Breakdown + Late Round Picks - Podcast for 7/23

32:05It's 8.5 this year. Warren Sharp has them with the fourth toughest schedule for 2026. Ooh, we don't like that. They were number two in yards per game and five in points per game. They were a terrible defense. And here we go. Brian Schottenheimer, season number two.

32:25Hot stat from Kyle. He coached all 17 games. Kyle? Kyle's coaching now? No, Brian Schottenheimer coached all 17 games with a visor on. Well, Kyle's not here, so I wondered if he was coaching. He has the visor stats for Brian Schottenheimer. Dude loves a visor. Clayton Adams number. Not just a visor, but you can see him frequently with a backwards visor. Backwards visor, which is not normal, but it is cool, man. That was normal for me as a sophomore with my bleached hair. Did you go backwards visor? Bro, you weren't cool unless you were backwards visor. Sideways visor? No, I wasn't that cool. Okay.

33:06You know, you talked about Mike Booth, the tough schedule coming up for the Cowboys. But that is a potentially good thing for them. They do have the Houston Texans in their fourth game. But this isn't necessarily the most difficult schedules for offenses to play against. This is good teams. and I'm looking at the totality and they've got a lot of games that could be absolute shootouts and barn burners. The 49ers are going to represent a very tough schedule, but when you're like the Cowboys and you don't have a good defense and you've got a great offense, you're going to be able to score on almost all of these teams.

33:47And so, I don't know, maybe a tough schedule from a wins and losses perspective is good for fantasy football. So let's talk through the pieces here. Dak, we've heard you sing his praises throughout the offseason. CeeDee Lamb, George Pickens, I think there's been the fun debate amongst pundits about who's the better player as an actual wide receiver today. I still have CeeDee Lamb higher. I think he's going to get the first look on a lot of plays. But George Pickens had a special year, and we know how he was much better with Lamb off the field. Lamb struggled with the drops. Both of these guys are certifiably studs for this year.

34:29Yes, they are both number ones. I think they are both worth the price of admission, with both of them staying healthy. And then you also have the nitro upside. If the cowboy you don't have misses time, then yours is going to be even more valuable. So just them with Dak and the two of them working together, It's an extremely exciting offense, and the fact that Javante is not a nothing burger really, really helps as well. I'm very excited. I'm fine with CeeDee Lamb at wide receiver 5, and I'm very okay with George at wide receiver 11. CeeDee Lamb is fantastic. He's 27 years old. He is in his absolute peak prime.

35:22He was an A in consistency over his last 17 games. That includes a game where he played almost 0 % of the snaps, and he wasn't scoring touchdowns last year. He was still great for fantasy. He's obviously got the upside of scoring the touchdowns. We saw 12 touchdowns a couple years ago. CeeDee Lamb is their alpha, and I think he's got a lot to prove coming off of an injured year. so I I have I still put CeeDee Lamb in you know basically in in a tier a tier one you know JSN CeeDee Lamb to me they're they're you're cheering him above George what's that so you have oh he is definitely a tier above George to me without a doubt I mean I mean I think you I mean he is for me too Mike and I like George I just yeah that's not an anti-George take he was a my guy last year but when they were both on the field it it really was you know it was it was CeeDee Lamb getting it done um just the the comps with both of them on the field together that's the sample of them both on the field is very difficult because it was like the first two games okay so that's what did george do in those first two let me pull up those stats so week one was not great week two was solid for for george pickens but i'm saying like that's his first two games as a cowboy So, of course, Dak is going to go to CeeDee Lamb to the tune of 13 and 11 targets.

36:47Then George goes absolutely nuclear in the time that CeeDee Lamb is off the field. And then when they were both back on, it was really both of them just being very good until the end of the season there was kind of a slump. Let me bring up something that I don't think is very fun about the experience with Dallas that presented itself last year. Dak was the quarterback five. We know the counting stats are going to be there. He passed for over 4 ,500 yards last year despite missing CD at 30 touchdowns. The weird thing about Dak last year was that, look, this team's projected, what, seven and a half wins?

37:24When they won the ball game last year, he averaged 24 fantasy points. When they lost, he averaged 12. So half the fantasy points in his losses. It's the largest gap between any of the top 15 quarterbacks. this was a like when it's good it's great and when they're losing he was not a dependable enough fantasy quarterback does that i would trend concern you or is it something that you see it doesn't oh like it doesn't destroy me because number one you don't have to pay up for dak he dak remains one of the best values at the quarterback position one of those games that is really dragging down the the average he played half of week 18 against the giants where he scored 0.7 fantasy point uh so that's involved a another horrific game on the road against denver so it's so it's like that stuff makes sense and you know when you have when you're when you're playing a fantasy quarterback like dak and it's week eight on the road against the denver broncos you go hmm maybe i don't maybe i don't play dak this week.

38:35And that's I think a benefit to him. If you take him as a... What quarterback is he going as right now? He is going... You guys have him ranked much higher than I do. But he's going as like QB 11. Ninth round. As a quarterback not being drafted as a top 10 who will... If he plays 16 games, Dak Prescott will finish as a top 10 quarterback. How many times has he done it in his career almost basically every single time that he has played a full season he's been the quarterback six ten two seven three and five so he's done it six times as long as he has played 13 or more games he has been a quarterback one i want to play a game it's uh javante williams centered game oh man do you want boring javante okay it's gonna this game is called boring or exciting okay okay do Do you want boring Javante or do you want exciting Cam Scatterboot?

39:33Jason, I'll let you go first. I want Cam Scatterboot. I want... Oh. I think I want boring Javante. Do you want boring Javante or exciting Jeremiah Love? Jeremiah Love. Do you want boring Javante Williams or do you want exciting Travion Henderson? trevo i don't want to answer this mike mike has to answer that one because i know he's going to be on the javante it's javante last question for you do you want boring javante williams let me pick a good one here or exciting quenchon judkins i'll be on javante there okay give me the offense we found i feel like you've you're always answering judkins yeah javante that's uh yeah i line is you look at the just the difference in touchdown opportunities between the cowboys and and the browns and make the most exciting thing about javante is that this is not there is no debate in this backfield of any kind it is the most plain and simple we paid him again and he's our running back and this is the running back for the cowboys like that i have zero fear of anybody else in that back yeah you can say jayden blue or phil mopper or malik you can say irrelevant none of them matter it's going to be javante the team got a lot out of him last year it's the same coaching staff with an offensive line former offensive line head coach right wasn't that what um clayton adams yeah the cardinals oh line guy and he's like yeah let's just bring them back so i mean there is something to be said about being able to start that guy every week you never think about it even in the bashal tootin chris rodriguez stuff we have to have in the back of our head oh is he going to come off on a third down like sure you know Javante's not good on it he can't catch the ball but he's going to be their starter yeah I mean you can't ask for much more than is he the goal line back absolutely 100 % when they're on the goal line he's going to get the touchdown opportunities in the rushing game is he passed to yeah over 50 targets from back last year he's had over 70 you know recently and when he was in Denver yeah you won't do anything with him but he's going to get the ball is he on a good offense yeah i mean the the real issue here is do they win games that's you know it's they're they're they might be a sub 500 team this will be a fun one to predict yeah we have the giants i'll just in real quick in washington starting their season jake ferguson in the in it this is fantasy football is wild jake ferguson last year eight top 10 fantasy finishes second only to Trey McBride on the season and I won't draft him no because how many of those games were CeeDee Liam out for that's the whole thing I mean it's nice sign him immediately if one of those guys goes down yeah he is he apparently like as much as Prescott loves throwing to the tight end position there's I guess there's only enough to go around for for two and if one of those two is Jake Ferguson he's going to be great but otherwise I would avoid him.

42:36All right. The Washington Commanders. It was a lost season, 5-12 after having a great year with the Jaden Daniels rookie campaign. Their projected win total going into last year was 9.5. Oh, just missed. Yeah, yeah. If they doubled, they would have covered. The Eagles were the healthiest team or one of the most healthy teams. This was one of the most injured teams. Nine starters. missed at least seven games. Third most adjusted games lost due to injury. It's exactly what it felt like. You never even got... Like, Jaden and McLaurin didn't even get to play together. I think they had three games out of 17 together.

43:18And so it was a disaster. I mean, this year, the win total has been nerfed down a little from that 9.5. It's at 7.5. I'll be honest. I mean, there are some teams I have a really good vibe, feel, understanding of what it's going to look like. this team with the departure of cliff Kingsbury with the Jaden Daniels trying to get back to health situation with, you know, question marks in the wide receiver room and a vampire calling the offense. Blah. David Blah. Yes. Um, I don't think I know what they're going to be is my point. I, I feel like we're so far removed from Vegas. Vegas doesn't either. Vegas says, uh, we'll go seven and a half.

44:00Yeah. I mean, I don't, Most of these reviews were like looking at what they did last year. This one, I feel like it's kind of, not only is it unhelpful because you have a change in offensive coordinator, but it's unhelpful because you just didn't have players in place last year to do anything that are going to be in those spots to start this year. I mean, Jaden has got an offseason to get healthy. Terry McLaurin is going to be back out there. They have made some changes to the offensive side of the ball. They brought in Chigakonkwo. They brought in Rashad White. They drafted Antonio Williams in the third round, a player I think we all kind of like to film.

44:37We said goodbye to the old dudes, Debo, Ertz, Eckler. That was kind of like stopgap guys that none of those – well, Ertz was, but the other two weren't a part of the previous season, right, where they had the success and went to the playoffs. So I don't even know if Ertz was now that I'm thinking about it. He was there. Yeah, Ertz was a part of that. I couldn't remember when he left Arizona. no he's he's been in washington for two years okay he got yeah but last he played 24 he played the full year like eckler and debo were parts of the conversation in the draft area of the year last year yes they're gone um what are they going to be what is this team going to be on offense because you got to tell me that there's some reliable pass catchers for me to believe in jayden yeah i mean so obviously there is a reliable pass catcher in tara mcloran so you've got one Antonio Williams high draft capital wide receiver that I think fits the the mold for a wide receiver too pretty good he's a last round dart throw in a lot of I mean we've been taking him in mock drafts as one of those later rookies who has opportunity and talent and a good quarterback here in Jaden the I was for Antonio Williams he did play 93 percent of his routes from the slot last year and yes I know that things can be over made about that where a college player plays in the slot and then they're like no I can I can do everything but this isn't a first round wide receiver he's a third round guy does that give you any concern that it should they follow the trends and only have two wide receivers out there that he won't be the second guy yeah I mean obviously if he's just being a slot wide receiver for the commanders then he's not gonna be great for fantasy i you know you look at how the team lines up and i would imagine you know you've got luke mcaffrey kind of no bro you got former first round pick trailing burks oh they've got trail on burks remember that touchdown oh man touchdown was sick yeah i i agree with you andy they don't have a lot of weapons but jayden daniels is is a weapon in his own right that can make up for a lot of that i mean will he could ignore all of the weapons and just say look anybody with the rushing floor of jayden daniels ilk i mean this is going to be a guaranteed fantasy predict producing season it's funny because you know you try to hope that he can comp to lamar and develop into you know that level of a player if he does and you you go okay well who do they have they You've got Zay Flowers and an old Mark Andrews and some rookies coming in, and you don't really worry about it there.

47:20So I think it comes down to is Jaden going to be great? Last year he went into the season in the third round. People were assuming, okay, this is that next superstar. Now he's a sixth-round pick. He's dropped a lot. Some of that, I'm sure, is the weapon. Some of that is probably the durability, the fact that we saw him get injured as an undersized mobile quarterback last year. but I'm fine taking a shot on a guy with the you know the total potential to go out there and rush for you know 800 yards he was basically on pace to break all scrambling records yeah he was he was not doing anything different running wise last year in the games he was active he just got hurt and through the air was the price was not as good well yes you can you can explain it away with all the personnel but statistically completion percentage dropped eight percent yards per attempt went down by 0.7 touchdown percent was down almost a full point we've seen this a couple times in a row where you know I've talked about it a little bit with the Patriots last year in their schedule the the schedule for rookie Jaden Daniels and the commanders was a cakewalk schedule and so last year it got harder they only won five games with the injuries I think their defense is not very good which is good for fantasy but i don't expect them to win a ton of games this year at the running back position yeah who are you taking a shot on so i mean first you gotta i didn't think we'd be doing this whole dance again this year we to be honest with you yeah i thought they would do more than add rashad white we thought jeremiah love might be going there so bill uh jacori krosky merit i it does start with him i you know i they're they're very close in ADP.

49:03I think they're very close in terms of who I would prefer to have on my team. This is very much a training camp. We need more news on how they're handling things. Like Rashad White can come in and he can already do everything. Maybe it's not he does everything great, but he does everything perfectly acceptable for an NFL team where Bill is the one who has the juice and everything they've kind of said about him in this offseason so far is the when he doesn't have the ball, he has to be better. You know, like in pass protection, in the actual receiving game. If it sounds like the coaching staff is going to become more confident in him in those things, I think there's a chance that Bill becomes just a true, like he's on the field all the time.

49:55But this is, like I said, you need the news because it could be a nothing burger and ends up completely being Rashad White. There are Chigakonkwo believers out there. I've been one before. Three-year,$17 million deal arrives to be the tight end one. I'm sorry, Mike, but the tight end one on an offense that like financially. Zacherts was a big part, way too big a part for you to handle of the Washington offense when he was catching passes here. We just talked about the absence of pass catchers in the wide receiver room. There's room. Let me just put it that way. There is room for Chigakonkwo to make his mark in this offense.

50:33I am Senate. Oh, gosh. You can acknowledge everything I said and still like Ben Senate, just so you know. Yes. Look, Ben Senate year one, five receptions. Year two, 11. Year three, 24. I'm just saying, at this rate, we're growing exponentially. Jason, I need somebody to talk about you guys. Because that might matter. Look, Chig is a very athletic tight end that we've seen have some breakaway plays. They need him desperately. They paid him. He will have the opportunities. They pass the ball. The trick is that they paid him desperately as well, which maybe is the case. They pass the ball a lot to Zach Ertz.

51:21I think that the opportunity will be there for him. Absolutely a sleeper. he's basically an undrafted tight end that is you know it's like if you wanted if you told me that one of him or Goddard was going to have a breakout it's more likely that Chig breaks out because he could be a high volume passing attack number two target in the offense there's really very little competition for that second target And so, yeah, I would say Chig has the opportunity to break out. I'm not betting on it like the biggest loser is. That's his guy. But, yeah, I mean, to me, I feel like the piece of this offense I want is Jaden Daniels.

52:07And I'm not very excited about most all the other pass catchers. We haven't even mentioned Terry McLaurin, but, you know, he's older. He was thriving on touchdowns a couple years ago. His ceiling is wide receiver what? Ceiling? The ceiling's still solid. wide receiver seven i don't think that high i i do you know i think it's the ceiling is easily a top 10 player i'm realizing as we're doing these all these teams from this entire division that all their tight ends might be the same player from a fantasy perspective like i can make an argument that ferguson did it for a bunch of games goddard did it for a bunch of games chig has had big games in fact the last two years he's ended with like top six performances like multiple times in the last handful of weeks.

52:50He loves the end of the season. And then now we're going to talk about Isaiah Likely. So we're just in the same boat of there's a lot of these guys. I want my, I mean, they're starters. Yeah. The difference between like tight end four and tight end 24 is not that much. Not enough for you. All right. We'll take a break. We got one more team. You guys just got the inside scoop this weekend.

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55:07well the giants went four and 13 last year that was under the five and a half win total projective or then there were one in seven did anyone hit their their projections they all like go over yeah they all hit their under yeah that's kind of how it felt there was a little bit of like like all the teams other the air let out of them yeah but one in seven and one score games cost brian dable his job there were games honestly it was like could you figure out how to lose this game and if you gave me that opportunity to try i would have still won that's but he lost those games there were some crazy games yeah i forgot about all those he lost nine straight games after week six and in week six they had beaten philly on thursday night oh that was the game right yeah that was the that was the dart scat game yeah remembering that right where they took over the tv at the end and it was like you you came into work on friday like holy crap guys it and And we didn't get a long enough run.

56:06No. Neighbors, we didn't get to see him. He ran 11 routes with Jackson Dart before he suffered a season-ending ACL that has turned into a difficult recovery. The recovery of Cam Scadaboo seems to have gone well. Yeah, he's doing flips. Because when he went down, that was a tough one to see, a tough one to watch. It's one of those visually you know immediately what has happened to that player and it's disturbing and it was such an emotional gut punch for the fantasy football world. John Harbaugh takes over, replaces Brian Dable. The New York Giants. Mike Kafka is gone, replaced by Matt Nagy. Oh, boy.

56:53Do you think Matt Nagy might have sucked the energy out of that room? Is that what happened? The budget magician had already performed and there was just not enough energy left in that press conference or that team meeting? It's very possible. I don't understand how these coaches keep getting jobs. You want him to be an assistant or something? I still wouldn't, but at least okay. You really look at his body of work and you're like, yeah, that's our OC. It's funny because in the offseason, Cliff Kingsbury was the Giants OC for about a minute. It was like, oh, it seemed like that was a done deal.

57:33Mike you were so excited about it because you were a big believer in Jackson Dark absolutely and then it went from Cliff Kingsbury's high speed offense high passing volume offense to Matt Nagy this is a weird situation because they're projected to win 7.5 which puts that would put Harbaugh in the if he beats that by a game or two that's like coach of the year candidate for a team that's in a tough division but they lose their target leader Wondell Robinson's gone they won't have a healthy Malik neighbors at full force for a while their wide receiver room is a comedic I'll tell you Darius Slayton gets no respect sorry Jason I was speaking about Darnell Mooney Juju Smith-Schuster Odell Beckham Jr.

58:22Calvin Austin and Braxton Berrios a bunch of we've been on a bunch of teams we've been there done that we hope I mean are they hoping they combine to catch 22 passes? Yeah, I mean, that's embarrassing. I'm hoping that it is more Darius Slayton and Malachi Fields kind of out with the old and in with the new. And Isaiah Likely. And Isaiah Likely, and then quickly, hopefully, Malik Neighbors. The weapons will be there eventually, but it is tough sledding. Without Neighbors, it really seems like they don't have the passing weapons to make it easy on themselves. Now, they can rely on Cam Scadaboo. They've got a really good backfield.

59:05You know, having Tyrone Tracy as a backup behind Cam Scadaboo is – Singletary back behind them. Yeah, exactly. It's a deep core. This team has a great defense. Their defense, I think, can really surprise. You bring in a coach like Harbaugh, and I think you're going to have a team that starts the season winning ballgames by running, running with Jackson Dart, running with Cam Scadaboo, and figuring that out offensively enough while they stay close in games. For fantasy, I don't think we're going to love this offense until the neighbors show up. I just think there's a lot of risk. I know you guys are big Jackson Dart fans, and I know the numbers of the running totals in his limited starts are very, very good.

59:49I'm more concerned. But I'm concerned that we can't have two things here. I'm concerned you can't have the reckless abandon that leads to fantasy points combined with durability that leads to being on the field. For both guys, in a way. For him and Scat. For Dart, some of his numbers, especially if you're talking his success as a no-huddle quarterback, he's a top five. like putting up top five numbers in those plays out of a huddle very very bad and he was dart was afforded a lot of no huddle last year and you bring in matt naggy matt naggy does not do no huddle so it's like will will they allow him to use that superpower and it's like well why does that work because dart is a he's an athletic playmaker you know he he can obviously he can get better he was a first-round quarterback he can improve but it's like he's the superpower last year was the play is broken down not just sitting in the pocket and picking people apart we're gonna go streetball on people and it was working I mean aside from the the injuries and the uh I do want to mention about Isaiah likely uh Jason and I boots on the ground There was an interview with Jackson Dart recently at the Fanatics Fest brought to you by the fantasy footballers.

1:01:17I thought Schefter did that. So did he. And we asked Dart, you know, we're fishing for the information. You're trying to get him to start naming some players with intentionally not listing any players' names, like who's first. The first and only player listed was Isaiah Likely. however the way it was said was you know we got isaiah likely it was like he there was a big pause in between the two names like he didn't fully know his name yet so i don't know i think he was just trying to be clear i saw that clip oh you felt like it was a i thought he was just trying to he realized he didn't know who is he realized he needed to be clear for the audience perhaps i think Perhaps that is what happened.

1:02:02I think he had Isaiah in mind right away, but there's still question marks. Jackson Dart was the 32nd-ranked quarterback when under pressure in completion percentage. That's something they're going to need to do better. Their middle-of-the-pack offensive line needs to protect him. We know we're going to see a lot of two tight end sets, Bellinger and likely probably on the field together. He did have a great rapport with Bellinger. Theo Johnson. Theo Johnson. Theo Johnson. Oh, Theo. I'm so sorry. Yes, Theo Johnson. I think Billinger's still on the team too. But yes, Theo last year, I liked that connection between them.

1:02:37Yeah, I did too. I think Likely is the more explosive, fun player and will probably produce more fantasy points. But both are weapons for Dart. Like if you want to make the case that he's got enough to start the year before Neighbors, to me it's Likely and Theo complimenting those guys and them being smart enough to have both those. I mean, two tight end sets when Malik is hurt makes all the more sense than anything else. Run the ball with Cam. and see if you can survive with that defense. But I'm just not sure what the ride's going to be like with Jackson Dart, and I feel bad because I feel like he's the fun, exciting, sexy player to like, and I just have doubts.

1:03:12100 % is. He was, purely fantasy speaking, he was awesome. Once he took over as the starter, if you were like, I'm going to ride this out. Whenever he plays, I'll play him. he really had like two I mean the dud in week 16 he had a game where he scored exactly zero Minnesota will get you and he played 100 % of snaps but I mean 20 points 25, 22, 26 27, 28 those aren't just good weeks that's my quarterback was better than yours so he's extremely exciting the ADP I think makes total sense what I'm seeing right now for redraft quarterback nine because he is a player he could to me like Jackson Dart if Malik gets back sooner than we're expecting Dart can finish as a top five quarterback for fantasy football he has all of his stuff back home and he's got Juju and he's no I'm just he has but he like him the player he has the stuff that we need for fantasy football If we can get him some weapons, then things will go well.

1:04:23It's going to be a tough, interesting start, I should say. Dallas in week one, but at home. Then the Rams in Los Angeles in week two. If I'm Malik, I might sit that one out. But then Tennessee, Arizona, Washington, and New Orleans. So let me ask you this real quick, Jason, because I've seen it asked, like the mock draft, all this stuff. How do you approach Malik neighbors today? That's the last question I'm going to ask on the Giants. Let's say you're drafting in two weeks. I'll say 12 team. How are you going to approach him? Yeah, I am approaching Malik Nabors with two truths. One is that I think he starts the year on the pup, and so I won't have him for the first four or maybe even five weeks of the season.

1:05:08I also think that he's going to be a star fantasy option at the end of this year. if he gets to 85%, 90 % of what he is capable of doing. You saw Wandale Robinson at 185 pounds get just murdered by Jackson Dart because he kept throwing 14 targets. It was like that was the guy that he was throwing to, and it was really good. I think that was 140 targets to Wandale Robinson. When Dart has neighbors on that field, he is going to give him every opportunity to succeed. I think he'll be a monster at the end of the year. Do you think fantasy playoffs, Malik neighbors will talk about him? I think fantasy playoffs neighbors should be.

1:05:56So what round are we talking? Is that a fifth round pick? Is that a fourth round pick? In the fourth round is when I have started really looking at him. When he's there in the fourth round. I think that's when the entire league is going to start getting a little sweaty. What about no IR spot? At that point, yeah, I mean, that's with no IR spot. At that point, I'm looking at my team and saying, okay, can I survive basically not having a wide receiver here? Do I have, you know, if I feel like I've got a real stud running back, a hero running back approach, and I started with two other good wide receivers, I feel like I could take that shot at neighbors in the fourth.

1:06:39Well, I think we need to pick this division, and I've got my names written down. It's not an easy one. What do you guys think? Writing it down. You want me to read mine? I've got mine. I've got my first and last, but I don't have me in the other two. look I'm going to do something that I'm taking we're probably the same it's Dallas Dallas is winning and then I'm going Philly and then I'm going the Giants and then I'm going Washington I went Washington New York but I got Dallas winning I've got Philly Dallas New York and then the Commanders okay well that'll do it for today's episode Saturday show don't forget three times a week right now about to be five a week in August episodes coming at you the NFC West on Saturday Mock Draft Show on Tuesday.

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