Fantasy Football - Playoff Push! Week 14 Start/Sit + The Ballers Fix Football - Podcast for 12/3

3 Dec 2025 · 53 min · 26 chapters

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In short

Week 14 fantasy football start/sit, waiver backup options, and playoff implications; plus NFL news and a Thursday night Cowboys vs. Lions preview.

Guests

No external guests; hosts are Andy Holloway, Jason Moore, and Mike Wright (Fantasy Footballers).

Key claims

Mike jokes about “no wrong” and needing Isaac Teslaw if Amon-Ra St. Brown sits; they discuss reseeding playoffs after round one in one league of record; Megalobol top-6 teams advance by scoring more than half on Sleeper, then score most in final week. Backup options: Ollie Gordon (Miami RB strength of schedule), Emmanuel Wilson (if Josh Jacobs is limited), and backup WRs like Yoshi (T. Higgins concussion uncertainty) and Tinsley. News: Buccaneers expected to practice early for Mike Evans and Jalen McMillan; Amari Hampton return is uncertain; Kyron Williams targeted for freshness for NFL playoffs; Steelers signed Adam Thielen. Thursday game examples: Lions offense line injuries (Decker, Sewell, Glasgow limited/IR) vs Cowboys run defense; if Amon-Ra sits, Jamison Williams and Isaac Teslaw become must-start/high-upside. Mailbag examples: Start Brian Thomas Jr. over Rome Odunze; debate Kyle Monongai vs Odunze; skepticism about trusting Lamar Jackson; trade deadline timing and “legal lineup” rules.

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Hosts Introduction

0:32 to 2:15

The hosts introduce themselves and set the tone for the episode.

“Some won't wash their lucky mustard stained jersey until the season's over.”

Fantasy Playoff Talk

2:15 to 3:39

Discussion on the upcoming fantasy playoffs and individual player situations.

“They get along like water and oil, and they absolutely love each other.”

League Dynamics and Reseeding

3:39 to 5:03

Debate on playoff reseeding rules and their impact on team performance.

“I'm sorry if you need McCaffrey this week.”

Megalobol Updates

5:03 to 11:44

Insights on the Megalobol league format and player updates.

“And it's going to really cost Mike this year.”

Injury News and Player Analysis

11:47 to 14:00

Discussion on recent injuries and their implications for fantasy lineups.

“Maybe we need to get Papa Josh and Falcon some counseling.”

Injury Updates and Player News

14:00 to 16:45

Learn about recent player injuries and their implications for fantasy teams.

“One of the fun things about the Ducers' constant spats is that they're co-managers of a fantasy team.”

Injury Updates and Player News

16:49 to 18:12

Learn about recent player injuries and their implications for fantasy teams.

“Progressive casualty insurance company affiliates and third-party insurers not available in all states or situations.”

Injury Updates and Player News

18:16 to 18:26

Learn about recent player injuries and their implications for fantasy teams.

“Fastest is based on analysis by Ookla of speed test intelligence data of national speed score results for the second half of 2025.”

Thursday Night Game Preview

18:26 to 22:36

A breakdown of the upcoming Thursday night football game and its fantasy implications.

“is based on analysis by Ookla of speed test intelligence data second half of 2025.”

Player Start/Sit Decisions

22:36 to 28:00

Insights on player matchups and decisions for your fantasy start/sit choices.

“Gibbs, Amon Ra, we don't think he'll be out there.”
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Third Wide Receiver Impact

28:00 to 28:30

Discussing the potential impact of the third wide receiver in the upcoming game.

“But Khalif Raymond will be on the field a lot.”

Player Comparisons: Teslaw and Others

28:30 to 30:00

Comparing various players' potential performances in week 14.

“If Amon Ra is out, he will 100 % matter.”

Tight End Dilemma: Ferguson vs. Strange

30:00 to 31:08

Analyzing the tight end options, particularly Ferguson and Strange, for fantasy lineups.

“I think you could probably – I'd be much happier with the Waller, Strange, Loveland, Pitts than I would Ferguson right now.”

Mailbag Introduction

31:08 to 31:20

Introducing the mailbag segment and inviting listener questions.

Listener Question: Start Options

31:20 to 32:41

Answering a listener's question about who to start in the flex position.

“Tyson, if you have a question for the show, visit the website, click the Submit a Question button or dial our voicemail hotline.”

Analyzing Player Performance: Adunze vs. Monongai

32:41 to 34:11

Comparing the performance and matchup potential of Adunze and Monongai.

“But obviously, Brian Thomas has had one game with 10 points.”

Lamar Jackson Trust Issues

34:11 to 38:57

Discussing the trustworthiness of Lamar Jackson as a fantasy option this week.

“Steven here from Grand Rapids, Michigan.”

Lamar Jackson Trust Issues

39:12 to 40:07

Discussing the trustworthiness of Lamar Jackson as a fantasy option this week.

“We'll come back with some more questions.”

Eagles Offense Diagnosis

40:22 to 42:00

Analyzing the issues faced by the Eagles offense this season.

“in 96 calories and 3.2 carbs per 12 ounces.”

Diagnosing the Eagles' Struggles

42:00 to 43:55

Learn about the various factors contributing to the Eagles' offensive issues.

“It might just be peanut butter dwelly time.”

Offensive Strategies and Play Action

43:55 to 46:00

Explore the importance of offensive schemes and how they impact player performance.

“I mean, they are bottom five in pre-snap motion.”

Quarterback Decisions and Fantasy Stakes

46:00 to 48:26

Discuss the implications of quarterback performance on fantasy football playoffs.

“That flushes the toilet that's built into his seat.”

Integrity of Fantasy Leagues

48:26 to 50:36

Understand the rules and ethics around lineup settings in fantasy football.

“They run enough intentional quarterback draws with him and he's been good enough and having Terry McClure in there, I mean, it was Denver last week and he had a great game.”

Trade Deadlines and Holiday Preparations

50:36 to 53:30

Learn about optimal timing for trade deadlines and holiday traditions.

“Aren't you a legal lineup with George Kittle in there?”

Fantasy Football in Adverse Weather

53:30 to 56:01

Explore the idea of incorporating weather conditions into fantasy football discussions.

“You're saying the time between Thanksgiving and Christmas.”

Fixing Football: The Snowball Game Concept

56:01 to 57:01

Learn about an amusing and absurd proposal to determine the worst NFL team through a snow game.

“well let's move the hall of fame game no no real football but teams we don't care about what if it's artificial snow.”
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Transcript

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0:00Jason Moore:If you're an NFL fan, ESPN is where you need to be this season. It's the biggest lineup they've ever put together. Monday Night Football, every week, every game on NFL Network. Now also available with an ESPN Unlimited plan. And for the first time ever, Super Bowl 61. Marquee matchups, MVP quarterbacks, international games, the whole season start to finish. footballs on ESPN. This episode is brought to you by State Farm. Every football fan is different. Some won't wash their lucky mustard stained jersey until the season's over. Some insist they can't sit down on third downs and some pick their favorite team because I don't know.

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1:09Jason Moore:Welcome to the Fantasy Footballers Podcast with your hosts Andy Holloway, Jason Moore, and Mike Wright.

1:26Mike Wright:Welcome in.

1:37Mike Wright:It's a wacky Wednesday, everybody. December 3rd, the Fantasy Footballers Podcast. Mike, the fantasy hitman, the fantasy do-no-wrong man. Jason Moore, the hanging on for dear life. There's been plenty of wrong, man.

1:57Andy Holloway:I had to buy my way out of some wrong decisions.

2:00Mike Wright:Yeah, but you did. And I'm Andy Holloway. Welcome, man. We got all three of the ducers in the house, two of them fighting like cats and dogs. Papa Josh and the Falcon always at each other's throats, just like siblings.

2:14Jason Moore:They are the weirdest old married couple. Yes. They get along like water and oil, and they absolutely love each other.

2:25Mike Wright:They love hating each other. Deep down, you love each other. And Al Borland's just, you know, he's just out of that.

2:31Andy Holloway:I'm just babysitting back here. I mean, Papa Josh, if I make a perfect Strangers reference, you would understand that, right? Yeah. Yeah. I bet the Falcon will not. Yeah. That's a sitcom from the mid-'80s.

2:45Mike Wright:Yep. Yep. Yep. My goodness. welcome in one and all. It is getting ready for week 14 time. Fantasy playoffs right around the corner. We'll see if Mike can really do no wrong. If Isaac Teslaw on Thursday, if Teslaw has a two-touchdown night on Thursday, Mike, the good news is that Mike can't, at that point he won't be able to win all the championships in the leagues because he will have ascended into another plane.

3:12Andy Holloway:No, I will. His teams will be unmanned. I call dibs on your team. That's fine. I call dibs on the other one. but the third dimension, I'll be gone. Yeah, he will. I will be. Can you enter the Tesseract? I don't even know how that works. But we'll find it. We will find out on Thursday, should Isaac Tesla have a multi-touchdown game?

3:30Mike Wright:Yeah, I mean, everything is just working out well. You've got a bye week built in for Christian McCaffrey, so we can't get hurt before the playoffs. Oh, it's great.

3:40Andy Holloway:For most. I'm sorry if you need McCaffrey this week. No, that'd be brutal.

3:44Mike Wright:You probably don't if you haven't. And that's been the amazing thing. But we've got, what do we got today? We've got some mailbag we're going to dive into. We'll do some backup options. We'll talk about some NFL news. We've got a Thursday night game where Mike will talk about Isaac Teslaw. I'll talk about Jameson Williams and Jason.

4:04Jason Moore:I'll talk about the playoff implications. It's a massively important game.

4:08Mike Wright:Yeah, I just thought maybe you'd be spending most of this show doing advanced math on scenarios of whether you win or lose games and who your opponent will be. Mm-mm. You know, we have—

4:17Jason Moore:I locked up the playoffs last week, as we talked about. I will be doing nothing this week. You're just taking it off.

4:24Mike Wright:I am taking a big breather. Now, we do have a bit of a problem in our leagues, and those listening out there, maybe you do it one way or another way. You were not—I think you were in the middle of doing the Dynasty show yesterday, Jason, and Mike and I were just examining a couple of leagues, and we realized that in our league of record, we reseed the playoffs after round one. And so it is... As should be done. I think it is the right way to do it. That's what sports do. That's what proper tournaments do. If you're the number one seed and then someone pulls an upset and they're a lower seed, you should get to face them.

4:58Mike Wright:But our other main league, our dynasty league, we don't do that. We should put that to a vote. And it's going to really cost Mike this year. Because I will vote no. Because we have a division leader that's like six. No, it costs you, Jay.

5:11Andy Holloway:I will vote yes. Which one is better for me? That's how I'll vote. No matter – so in your bracket where – our bracket is three people from our division. That's how it's worked out. The three – well, no, no. I'm sorry, Jeremy. I won't say the three strongest teams. Your team is in there. What? What? I didn't want to say the three strongest teams. That was mostly complimentary. Yeah, the tone. I appreciate it. Don't worry about it. Yeah. But I play either you or Troy's team. Okay. No matter what. And the division winning. That sucks. And Brooks plays. I just knocked Tua Tungavailoa way off the desk.

5:51Andy Holloway:Just left hand punched him off the desk. But the point of that story is, yeah, we should be reseeding immediately.

5:57Mike Wright:Yeah, and I think we did change to that at one point in League of Record. It wasn't that way by default. I don't think they do that by default. um yeah the tua statue has a concussion for sure uh but let's let's get into things the megalobol leader right now alan the hips that's the first time i've heard that name atop the megalobol wow megalobol leader alan all caps the hips the hips is a great nickname

6:24Andy Holloway:the hips if you call me the hips as in like your your body part or like you're hip you don't know

6:29Mike Wright:I could be hip.

6:30Andy Holloway:I could have hips that don't lie. You should run through the Megalobol playoffs for the people at home.

6:38Jason Moore:Yeah, so if you are in the top six in your Megalobol league, after this week, you will go into the playoffs. You no longer have a head-to-head matchup on the sleeper platform. Basically, you can look at the standings at Megalobol.com, and then the way it works is just score more than half of people, and you're on to the next week. do it again and you're on to the final week and then you've got to score the most to be the winner and play with us in the listener league next year

7:06Mike Wright:it's going to be fun we are right there we have what else do we have I guess we should remind people we mentioned it yesterday if you do need a trophy, a ring, a belt for your league fantasychamps.com has the highest quality best products for the champions out there and you can use the code BALLERS to save some money on those so if you need them Every year there's new trophies, new rings, all that stuff. Fantasychamps.com to check that out. Let's go ahead and jump right in.

7:48Mike Wright:Waivers have gone through in your league. We've got some backup options. Some players may be beneath the waiver pickups that might be worth grabbing, stashing, keeping an eye on, just in case they can be those bottom-of-the-barrel league winners. That happens every year. And I'm throwing Ollie Gordon's name out there for the Dolphins. They have the second-best running back strength of schedule heading into the playoffs. If you're smart, you're the A-chan manager, you have Ollie Gordon on your team. But he's, I think, a good player. I think if Ollie Gordon had more opportunities, because he's had fantasy-relevant games even with A-Chan this year, Miami's number one in the league in rush rate right now.

8:31Andy Holloway:Yeah, I was going to say, Tua is not throwing the ball a ton. I mean, over the last—you had a blip in where they were getting blown out by Baltimore where he threw the ball 40 times, but the past three games, 23 attempts, 20 and 21.

8:44Mike Wright:There's a world where—because committee backs get started, right? Chris Rodriguez has kind of been a committee, right? We have Michael Carter's been started in leagues. I think Ollie Gordon is in that conversation because the matchups are that good and they should be really competing in these games. The playoffs, it's Pittsburgh in the first one, but then Cincinnati, who gives up nine more points than expectation to running backs, and then Tampa Bay, something to pay attention to, a name we've barely mentioned this year.

9:10Jason Moore:Yeah, it's a great name to bring up because he is talented. He is good. He's a monster of a man. He's 6 '2", 225, and only 21 years old. A little Latavius Murray vibes to me. Sure. Yeah, and honestly, two years ago, Ollie Gordon was thought to be like a borderline first-round NFL draft pick. He was the hotness, had a disappointing senior year, but he's looked good. So I think that's a great name to bring up because A-Chan is undersized, and he's getting worked like crazy. If he goes down, he'll be an important name. The name I'm going to bring up, another insurance running back who I can't believe is getting dropped everywhere.

9:49Jason Moore:I know you've got to drop who you've got to drop, but I saw Emmanuel Wilson on the most droplets. I would love if Emmanuel Wilson was dropped in our league. I'm the Josh Jacobs manager. He's already been dealing with injuries that are kind of lingering. Josh Jacobs scares me. He can limp off at any moment. And you already saw Emmanuel Wilson be the guy without Josh Jacobs, have a multi-touchdown game. He was the running back two in fantasy that week. So, yeah, I mean, don't drop Emmanuel Wilson. If he is dropped, pick him up. Scoop him up.

10:23Andy Holloway:Yeah, makes sense. And he's back because he was my backup option last week. I'm going with Andre Yoshivosh. Yeah, you messed that up. Yeah, I really did. I apologize, Yoshi. And I know that Tinsley was kind of the story of he was getting targeted a ton. He had nine targets. because Tinsley could be a super deep backup option as well. I'm bringing him up just because the T. Higgins news isn't good yet for clearing concussion protocol. Seems like we're trending for another week without him. And with Joe Burrow back, there are fantasy points to go around just to lay it out a little bit more. Yoshi only had the two targets.

11:02Andy Holloway:He came through with the touchdown, so everything was okay if you played him last week. But he was on the field for 94 % of the snaps, 88 % of the routes while Tinsley was at 60 % of the routes. You had the touchdown. The ball just happened to go to Tinsley a lot. It was not effective. But both of these guys, depending on the size of your league, I think are in play this week against Buffalo. If you missed out on the wide receivers you needed from the waiver wire, these guys should be in a higher-scoring game. 52.5 point over or under.

11:37Mike Wright:Goodness gracious. If the Bengals go down this year and they don't make the playoffs, they're going down with Joe Burrow.

11:42Andy Holloway:Yeah.

11:42Mike Wright:And so I like it. That was Backup Options sponsored by Progressive Insurance. Quote today at Progressive.com. Let's talk news.

11:51Jason Moore:News and notes from around the league. Presented by Progressive Insurance.

11:57Mike Wright:Maybe we need to get Papa Josh and Falcon some counseling. You know what I mean? No way. To talk through it, to deal with it.

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12:05Andy Holloway:No way. The electricity is good for the office.

12:07Mike Wright:yeah you don't want things too chummy around yeah too comfortable no way the Buccaneers are expected to open the 21 day window for both Mike Evans and Jalen McMillan and both are expected to practice this week it is ahead of schedule for Mike Evans with the collarbone expectations

12:21Andy Holloway:but he's a dog yeah this is wild man if you if they really have all the wide receiver weapons for Baker to close out the season it could be wild does that scare you for a Buka big time yeah

12:37Mike Wright:yeah i mean i don't know it the vibes with abuka are so weird right now because he was so effective with evans so there's that part of you that's like oh this would be great you know you have but that was sans godwin yeah they had no godwin but then then you look and say well these targets are amazing 11 9 10 and you're like oh i want that to continue but that's turned into low efficiency 30 plus percent um catch rate and so yeah i i think ultimately it's what you believe about the talent abook is a great talent he's a great player i don't know if he's still in the lead in terms of receiving yards for the wide receiver position as a rookie it's probably close with tetaroa at this point but um you know i i guess i'm mostly neutral and a little bit worried in general amari and hampton expected to return this week against the eagles on monday it is a bit of a scary start to me.

13:29Mike Wright:You go into Monday night, Hampton, Eagles, Kamani Vidal's been good. There's no way you give him a full workload. But we saw this past week we weren't expecting a full workload for Bucky Irving and he ends up with a touchdown that got called back and then another touchdown later in the game. Bucky looked back. He looked like a guy whose body was well a while ago. Yes.

13:53Jason Moore:I think Hampton is going to be a really interesting like start sit decision people are going to get them back and they're going to go i don't know what to do and i think in most situations feel like i would rather wait a week

14:05Andy Holloway:oh really i was gonna say i feel like in a lot of situations i'm just gonna play him

14:09Mike Wright:yeah yeah i mean it is all depending on your options we also had word that and you've kind of seen this with the blake quorum utilization but michael floor said the team wants kyron williams fresh for the nfl playoffs yeah you don't want to hear that right before your fantasy

14:25Andy Holloway:playoffs.

14:25Mike Wright:One of the fun things about the Ducers' constant spats is that they're co-managers of a fantasy team. And so that team has Kyron Williams. So you don't like that news, do you, Papa Josh? Just shake your head on our audio podcast.

14:40Jason Moore:I can't handle another injury to our team.

14:42Mike Wright:Hold on, let me check this. Falcon, do you like that news?

14:45Jason Moore:No, I hate it.

14:46Mike Wright:Okay, so now you have common ground. You both hate that that's going to knock you out of the playoffs.

14:51Andy Holloway:Don't want to miss the news, the The Tyrone Tracy injury, he's saying he suffered a hip contusion and a stinger, so he expects to be fine.

14:59Mike Wright:Is this true that the Steelers signed Adam Thielen? Yes. Oh, you missed that? Yeah. Did you not see? Oh, my gosh. That is crazy.

15:07Andy Holloway:Well, Aaron Rodgers needed someone to relate to. Nice.

15:11Mike Wright:What is the, why is the name? Aaron. What podcast did we go on a couple years ago with the linemen that host the show? I feel terrible not remembering the name right now.

15:22Andy Holloway:Long?

15:22Mike Wright:Yes, yes, yes. What's the name of that show?

15:26Andy Holloway:Now I can't think about it. It's Chris Long's podcast. Go Long.

15:30Mike Wright:Chris Long, on the Chris Long podcast, which... Looks like Greenlight with Chris Long. Yes, yes, that's it. I knew it had green. Yeah, yeah. Great podcast, great host. They do a lot of amazing work. They just had a podcast a couple days ago where they were joking about Mike Tomlin, where he's like, Mike Tomlin's the kind of guy that would say, you know, you need a spoon to eat soup, not a fork, as in like you need better players to eat the soup, and then would go sign a 2018 Pro Bowler. And then they joked about it being Adam Thielen because he's a 2018 Pro Bowler, and then they sign Adam Thielen?

16:10Andy Holloway:Yeah, that's funny.

16:11Mike Wright:You don't have Big Ben anymore, buddy.

16:15Jason Moore:At the same time, I feel like there's a good signing for the Steelers. They need another legitimate wide receiver, and Adam Thielen is no pro bowler anymore. I think this matters not.

16:28Mike Wright:For fantasy, it doesn't matter.

16:29Jason Moore:Yeah, I would agree with that. It's not pushing Aaron Rodgers over the top, and it's not making Adam Thielen a relevant play, but it is good for the Steelers. I mean, they don't have quality wide receivers there.

16:40Mike Wright:I'm not sure Adam is that anymore. This is his final season, too. He said that. So that was News & Note, sponsored by Progressive Insurance. quote today at progressive.com. Progressive casualty insurance company affiliates and third-party insurers not available in all states or situations. Coverage subject to policy terms, limits, and conditions. We'll take a break. We'll jump into the Thursday night preview.

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18:31Jason Moore:If you're an NFL fan, ESPN is where you need to be this season. It's the biggest lineup they've ever put together. Monday Night Football, every week, every game on NFL Network. Now also available with an ESPN Unlimited plan, and for the first time ever, Super Bowl 61. Marquee matchups, MVP quarterbacks, international games, the whole season start to finish. Football's on ESPN.

19:03Mike Wright:Is Adam Thielen the kind of guy that's going to free DK Metcalf up? No. Okay. All right. We do have a pretty fun, pretty exciting, better not let us down Thursday night game.

19:20Mike Wright:Thursday night breakdown. Dallas, 6-5-1, Detroit, 7-5. That's wild. I mean, if Dallas wins the ballgame, they have a better record than Detroit.

19:34Jason Moore:if dallas wins the ball game the lions have a 12 chance at making the what a 12 chance of making the playoffs if dallas wins this game just based on the record because it's like you don't know what's going to happen with the rest of the game right those are like those projections based on the the the uh lines for the rest of the season for every matchup around the league That's crazy. Well, it is. So if they win, they have still only a 45 % chance of making the play. Like the Lions are up against it right now. Yeah, because of the division. What's the schedule?

20:10Mike Wright:It's got to be divisional games too, right, the rest of the schedule? That's wild. They play Dallas, then the Rams, Pittsburgh, Minnesota, Chicago. So that's wild because I feel like if Chicago loses this week, they go from the 1C to the 7C. And then suddenly Chicago, that game – I mean, that Week 18 game could be a playoff spot between Chicago and the Lions. I'll bet it is. I'll bet it is. And that game is in Chicago. Three of the next five games for the Lions are on the road as well. So this is a crucial must-win game for both. Detroit three-point favorites at home. Over-under is, I'm going to just say it.

20:5155!

20:52Mike Wright:You round up.

20:53Jason Moore:54 and a half. That's insane. It opened at 52 and a half. They are expecting big offensive performances. I will say this. The Detroit offensive line is hurting right now. So far, Graham Glasgow, limited participant in practice. Their left tackle, Taylor Decker, didn't practice on Tuesday. Panay Sewell didn't practice. Their left guard went to the IR. And then Frank Ragnow, they brought him back. You know, from retirement with a too bad of a hamstring. So, yeah, I mean, man. And that's like always been the strength of this version of the Lions is their offensive line.

21:38Mike Wright:So, well, if there's a defense that can overcome the other team's offensive line not being good enough and still give up points is Dallas. Yeah, they've been a lot better against the run in recent weeks. Ninth in the last six weeks against the run, but still 31st against quarterbacks, 32nd against wideouts. of which they have maintained that throughout the entire season. That's exciting. And guess what? The Lions are the same. They can't play defense against quarterbacks and wide receivers. They give up a ton of fancy points. This is magic. If you need to win this week, you want a player in this game.

22:14Jason Moore:Yeah, it's a little sad that this game isn't next week for me because the DAC-CD stack is going to be fire.

22:22Mike Wright:I would be feeling that way too. I'd be very excited about that. So Dak, Javante, Lamb and Pickens, yeah, play them all. Jared Goff, basically my favorite start of the week. Gibbs, Amon Ra, we don't think he'll be out there.

22:41Andy Holloway:Monty is in play. I know that the Cowboys are not giving up a ton of points to the running back position right now, but it's in such a high-scoring game with the amount of touchdowns. It doesn't make you nervous? I'm not like, yes, I got Montgomery to play compared to the other players in this game. But at this point, Montgomery already had a level on your fantasy roster where you look at him, you're like, he's a running back three type of a guy based on the right matchup. I can play him, and this is one of them.

23:15Mike Wright:The Dan Campbell quote on Alman Ross St. Brown, if he can play, he'll play. Yeah, that's usually how that works. Thanks, Dan. Yeah, his quote himself, he said, I'm not sure right now if I'm being honest. It's a short week. It's still up in the air. This team, the only thing that could talk you into it is the idea of what you just said, the fact that if they lose this game at home, their playoff odds become very challenging. Because if this was any other scenario where they felt more comfortable, I'd be like, goodness, give them the 10 days. I don't think he'll be out there. I don't think he can get there.

23:49Mike Wright:And I think if they need to close the season four more games the right way, they're going to want him out there for that shot to make it. So if he's not out there, Jamison Williams, I mean, since week six, he's the wide receiver 10 in total fantasy points. That includes two gooses.

24:04Jason Moore:That's incredible. That is the most Jamison Williams stat of all time. He's had two gooses, but along that stretch, he is the wide receiver 10. I mean, the option to go nuclear is here. He is a must start. There's no league. I mean, I don't think that you could possibly have like three other wide receivers you could play ahead of him.

24:26Mike Wright:No, not for this week. And then Isaac Tesla, if Amon Ra is out, I think Tesla, oh gosh, it's like torture.

24:34Jason Moore:It makes me feel like my hair on my arms is standing up.

24:38Mike Wright:What did they used to do for people with like mental illness? The shock therapy? That's what that feels like. Yeah. I feel like my brain is being reprogrammed to agree with your takes more.

24:50Andy Holloway:I love the player. It's so much fun, the big plays. The targets, honestly, they've not been there really ever for Tesla in his, if you go back to college, not a big target earner. This year, even when he's on the field, really not getting targets. He gives you spectacular catches. So I think we said it right on the waiver show. The floor for Tesla is zero. The ceiling for him is 80-plus yards and two touchdowns. That's not an impossibility. Want a little Alec Pierce day from him? Right. I'm playing him almost everywhere that I have him. Would you play him over Jefferson?

25:33Jason Moore:Oh, man. Stop it. No, you wouldn't play him over Jefferson. Yes, he might score more points than Jefferson. Jefferson, I would probably play him over Jefferson.

25:45Mike Wright:Oh, dude.

25:47Andy Holloway:Nah.

25:48Mike Wright:And a 54.5 point over under with no Amon Ra at home. The floor for Jefferson is below the floor.

25:56Andy Holloway:It's the basement. Here's the floor for Jefferson. 1.4, which he just did. Yeah, we just said that the floor for Tesla was zero. Yeah. That's less than 1.4. Okay, sure. Floors. What's the ceiling for Justin Jefferson?

26:11Mike Wright:Oh, it's still pretty high, probably. Yeah. It might be smart, this thing.

26:16Jason Moore:The Washington matchup is a good get right matchup right now for Justin Jefferson. Yeah, for him, not for J.J.

26:24Andy Holloway:McCarthy. I'm going to go J.J. Okay. The Justin Jefferson and the Lamar Jackson questions are impossible. Yeah, I mean.

26:33Mike Wright:Somewhere, someone out there had both and thought they were going to win.

26:37Jason Moore:I totally understand the avenue, the game, this environment, the missing Amon Ra. Tesla is in play. If I had Xavier Worthy or Tesla, I'm playing Tesla. Okay. But I don't think I'm going to move him in ahead of wide receivers with more experience. He's got six catches in his career.

27:00Mike Wright:I do worry about Monty in this game. I really do. I've been so impressed with the run defense by Dallas in recent weeks. if this is going to be one of those games that it looks like, you know, high-scoring affair, you don't have control, the offensive line is beat up, I'm just going to throw my two cents out there that I'm...

27:16Andy Holloway:You didn't get a little bit of hope last week that Monty looked okay against Green Bay?

27:21Mike Wright:There's always hope he's going to score. But, I mean, he was still the running back 22 on the week. Oh, yeah. But that's what I mean. 32 yards and a touchdown. So 32 yards. I have hope he'll get 32 yards. But if he doesn't score and they need to lean on Gibbs and get him out in space because the defensive line is moving this offensive line that's beat up, I just think the floor is really low. That's all.

27:44Jason Moore:I would agree with that. I also think it's worth throwing the name out there. If you're in deep leagues, Khalif Raymond is not – if Amin Ra is not there, we're excited about Tesla. He's the exciting big-bodied rookie who can make highlight catches. But Khalif Raymond will be on the field a lot. We've been playing Parker Washington. He's been rolled out. Yeah, he is likely to miss week 14.

28:08Mike Wright:No, he's out. Holy Tesla goes up. Let's redo that. Let's redo that take. I'm just saying that.

28:15Jason Moore:My point is, whoever the third wide receiver is, is going to matter. I don't care who it is. Well, Tesla was out there for every snap last week.

28:22Mike Wright:So who is the third wide receiver? Exactly. Tom Kennedy? Exactly. You don't. I mean, we don't. Tesla will matter in this game. If Amon Ra is out, he will 100 % matter. But it might matter to the tune of two for 45 and no touchdowns. That could be the game. Yes. And yes, Tom Kennedy, I think, is an actual person. Is he one of the Kennedys? He could be. He has to be. Yeah, there's only one family with that name.

28:48Jason Moore:Man, would you play Tesla over Odunze?

28:51Mike Wright:Yeah. Again, this is all predicated on no Amon Ra, but of course.

28:55Jason Moore:Yeah, I think I would. Holy moly. Yes! This is a wild.

29:00Mike Wright:You have no Laporta. you have no Almond Rock. You have no Khalif Raymond. You have to score 30 points in this game. You have to throw.

29:08Jason Moore:You have to throw. Wow.

29:11Mike Wright:I mean, I'm seeing a picture of Tom Kennedy. I don't know if it's real.

29:15Jason Moore:Jeez Louise.

29:16Mike Wright:The American television host from the 50s? Is that who started?

29:19Jason Moore:Isaac Teslaw or Michael Pittman. I just want to see how high we can go with Teslaw here. Let's not get crazy. I'd play Pittman. Yeah, let's not get crazy. That's the line. Alec Pierce? No, I'd play Pierce. Pierce for sure. D.K.

29:33Andy Holloway:Mecca.

29:35Jason Moore:Against Baltimore.

29:36Mike Wright:I would think about to slow. I would play to slow.

29:39Jason Moore:I think that's where it starts getting fuzzy. Wow. I got to move him up in my rankings. He was not there.

29:44Mike Wright:Jake Ferguson. How are you feeling right now about Jake Ferguson? Okay.

29:48Andy Holloway:Yeah I think you yeah that really describes it the best is it's it's okay you know.

29:55Mike Wright:Tight end 80 26 7 9 and 20. So it wasn't the glory days of no CeeDee Lamb. It's changed a lot. I think you could probably – I'd be much happier with the Waller, Strange, Loveland, Pitts than I would Ferguson right now.

30:11Andy Holloway:Loveland or Ferguson I think is a tough one. That one's close. Yeah, that one's close. But the other names, yes.

30:16Mike Wright:Brenton Strange or Jake Ferguson is one of our most popular start-sit decisions. We have Brenton Strange higher. So by a few spots. Well, Mike is only one spot higher.

30:30Andy Holloway:That's really close to me. Yeah, it is. Because of just getting pieces into this game.

30:35Jason Moore:Yeah. To be fair, the Jacksonville Indy game might be another one that you want pieces in.

30:41Mike Wright:That's a 47.5. That's pretty good. Yeah, okay. I agree.

30:44Jason Moore:And Indy is not very good against tight ends. So that's a really tough call.

30:50Mike Wright:What's your call? You think if you had to make it today, you want the info? You want Ferguson in there to get the intel on what you need early?

30:57Jason Moore:They're in the exact same tier to me. I really like Strange this week. But the extra information, getting an early play, knowing if you did good or bad, I think is probably worth it. Superman does good.

31:09Mike Wright:Let's get into the mailbag here. It's time.

31:16Mike Wright:Mailbag. Mailbag.

31:19Jason Moore:Yeah.

31:20Mike Wright:All right, it is week 14. Big questions on the horizon. Tyson, if you have a question for the show, visit the website, click the Submit a Question button or dial our voicemail hotline. 302-464-TFFB. We've got the ever-exciting Roma Dunsay questions coming in on the voicemail. Hey, this is John from Cleveland. I need to win to get into the playoffs. Who do I start at? Flex, Roma Dunsay or Brian Promise? I hate both these players.

31:52Jason Moore:I also have David Montgomery, but I feel like I need a wide receiver. Thanks.

31:58Andy Holloway:So we got Roma Dunze. We got Brian Thomas. So Rome against Green Bay, Brian Thomas against Indy, or Monty versus Dallas. I'm going to go Brian Thomas. I've said this. Man, you got the –

32:10Jason Moore:I think that this is a get-right game. You got the vibes for Thomas this week. We just talked about that matchup, 47.5 points, so it's a good matchup. There's a lot of weather issues this week. So both of these dome games I'm very excited for. So there's going to be chilly weather and snow across the country this weekend. So I like Brian Thomas here. You've got Sauce Gardner ruled out, obviously, for the Colts, and no Parker Washington, presumably. It looks like he's going to be missing that game. So I lean that way. But obviously, Brian Thomas has had one game with 10 points.

32:44Mike Wright:I was going to say, there's one game you've been happy. That's a close one for me. I mean, Adunze is tough to start right now. Odunze? I mean, both of those players, their names do more work than they've done on the field.

32:59Andy Holloway:Someone shared a photo in our Slack where it was, okay, I found it. So the projections, this was over on Underdog, that John Mechie III has a higher receiving yard projection than Rome Adunze.

33:17Jason Moore:Yeah, and it makes more sense.

33:19Andy Holloway:John Mechie of the New York Jets.

33:21Jason Moore:Yeah, it makes sense. Rome is not what we thought he was to start the year. I mean, he's still getting the targets, but the fact that he is catching fewer than... It's not Rome. It's not. Him and Caleb are not in sync right now. Catching fewer than 50 % of his targets on the course of the year. Very difficult to... His percentage of uncatchable targets is catastrophically high. Yeah. He's got too many games here recently. Eight yards, 41 yards, 31 yards, 32 yards. It's tough. I'm going to go with you. You're going to go with Brian Thomas?

33:58Mike Wright:I'm going to go BTJ. Yeah, I agree. Back to, you know, with Parker Washington's injury, back to relevance this week in a good matchup and a good situation. It could definitely outpace that over-under, I think. All right, don't worry. We've got more. Hey, Ballers. Steven here from Grand Rapids, Michigan. In a full PPR league, should I start Kyle Monongai or Rome Medunzeh as my flex? I feel like Rome might be the right choice, but he's been painful lately. Let me know what you think. Thanks.

34:26Andy Holloway:Full PPR, Kyle Monongai or Rome Medunzeh.

34:31Mike Wright:Monongai has been, just to highlight it, he has scored in four consecutive games. He had 23 opportunities this past week.

34:39Andy Holloway:Yeah, but it was off the heels of 12, 13, 8. which is innumerably more than a duncey full ppr i mean he scored double digit fantasy points

34:51Mike Wright:three straight weeks even with now it's green bay it's a tough tough tough situation and a tough matchup i just are you going to bet on a duncey making a couple big big plays on green bay's defense or on manungai just slowly getting eight to ten points yeah i mean you're it's more of a

35:11Andy Holloway:bet on just the Chicago offensive line. Do you think that they will manhandle Green Bay the way that they did the Philadelphia Eagles? They've been doing it a lot this year.

35:18Mike Wright:That is a really close one. The full PPR also pushes you so hard in the wide receiver direction. I guess I'll lean a dunes by a hair. Because I will want... What are the odds that Monunga gives you 20? That seems really low against Green Bay. If you were a favorite, Let me put it this way, and I'm not trying to get out of an answer. If you're a favorite, I'm playing Monungay. If you are an underdog this week, I'm playing Roma Dunsing because I think that you want the opportunity for a long touchdown for a significant play.

35:52Jason Moore:I feel like the ceiling is higher with Monungay if he gets two touchdowns. I think I'm going Monungay either way.

35:59Mike Wright:He's not done that all year.

36:00Jason Moore:No, I know, but what we have seen right now from that offensive line, that offensive line might be the best in the league. They are on fire right now. What they did to the Eagles last week was incredible.

36:13Andy Holloway:So Swift had a carry inside the five. He scored. Monungay had a carry inside the five. He scored. So it wasn't like I don't think you know for sure who's going to get that carry.

36:27Mike Wright:Yeah, I'll go with the favorite versus underdog answer. Mike, which one are you going with? I know you almost escaped without a full answer.

36:37Andy Holloway:Well, it was the next question. Oh, you had moved on. Yeah, David in New Jersey had a question, everyone.

36:45Mike Wright:I would play Monungay. Lamar Jackson has been the next most asked about player behind Roma D.

36:50Andy Holloway:I told you, I will not field Lamar Jackson questions. I understand this is my job.

36:54Mike Wright:Well, what if it's a simple question like this, Mike, from Trejour on X? Can we trust Lamar?

36:59Andy Holloway:Oh, I'll field that. Okay.

37:01Mike Wright:Absolutely not. Can you trust him? You can't trust Lamar. Man, it's— Because Lamar might not be able to trust part of his body. I mean, he's not.

37:10Jason Moore:His rushing baseline is not what it has been. And he says he's not injured, but he's also, I mean, we've been, while watching these Ravens games, going, that's not what, like, Lamar is not even choosing to do what you're just so used to seeing him do. When he's got the ability to get to the outside edge, he just kind of cuts it up and grabs three yards and falls over because it's like he's never done that before. and I think there is a physical limitation. Oh, yeah. That foot has to be hurting. But I also want to point out, I mean, if Isaiah Likely does not fumble the ball on his big breakaway touchdown and the Flowers' offensive pass interference just wasn't called, I mean, you'd be going, Lamar had a great game.

37:55Jason Moore:That's 100 yards and two touchdowns on top of what he did.

37:58Mike Wright:We just haven't been in the position where we have to have a couple things go right

38:02Andy Holloway:to not have you be six points. Should those, or if both of those plays had hit, you would be saying Lamar had an okay game. You wouldn't be saying he had a great game.

38:11Jason Moore:I agree, but we wouldn't be so terrified of Lamar. I mean, right now, if I'm looking at Lamar or Baker, I'd go Baker. Brissette, I'd go Brissette. Mahomes, I'd go Mahomes. But you get to an area where it's like, I don't know, Trevor Lawrence?

38:31Andy Holloway:I was going to say, the difficult line for me is when you hit Lawrence, Jacoby, Daniel Jones, Sam Darnold, those type of plays. Maybe you're scared off of Sam Darnold after last week. I can understand that. But so Brissette and Trevor Lawrence.

38:47Mike Wright:Brissette, I would play. I do feel like Lamar has earned the opportunity to trust him beyond this little run. Yeah. Because the upside can be so tremendous and they need it. But Brissette, I feel like it'd be safe.

39:06Andy Holloway:Yeah, Brissette is just, oh, the Rams matchup. The Rams matchup. Yeah.

39:12Mike Wright:All right, we'll take a break. We'll come back with some more questions.

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41:04Mike Wright:David in New Jersey writing in. Here's that David question, Mike. Would you drop Jordan Addison or Troy Franklin to pick up defenses for the playoffs? Yes. Yes.

41:14Andy Holloway:Either or both. Either or both. Yeah. Franklin would be. Oh. Who's your preferred drop of the two? I would drop Addison.

41:24Mike Wright:Yeah.

41:24Jason Moore:I think I'd drop Troy Franklin. That's why when I said either both, I mean genuinely both. Like pick up a defense for week 15, pick up a second defense for week 16. Like put it together. Put your scoring roster together.

41:36Mike Wright:I mean, these guys, if you drop them, you can pick up Adnan Mitchell and play. If you need it. You know what I mean? There's those guys out there that are the same chance of doing something. Michael Wilson, if he gets dropped. There are just guys in that tier. Wide receiver is the easiest place to find a dart throw based on a matchup and an opportunity. Jalen Coker, whatever. They're all the same. Tom Kennedy. Tom F. Kennedy.

42:00Jason Moore:Yeah. All right? It might just be peanut butter dwelly time. That's what's going to happen. We're going to get a peanut butter dwelly touchdown. Are you talking for –

42:09Mike Wright:Ross dwelly? For the line.

42:11Jason Moore:For Detroit. Oh, that's Brock Wright. Might be.

42:13Mike Wright:What is actually wrong with the Eagles offense? Question from Dylan Hunt. They want us to diagnose this.

42:22Mike Wright:It's a bit of everything. It is. It's a bit of everything. The offensive line play, no Lane Johnson. That's where I would start. The running game not having big plays and keeping you accountable for play action. The accuracy of Jalen Hurts has been not good. He has missed reads and he's missed players. The locker room squeaky wheel is not helpful. It doesn't help an offense like this execute. If you're fading back the pass, you need to feel like you can throw the ball where it needs to go. You talk about missing Goddard on a wide open play. You know what does that? My personal opinion, it's having somebody that angry about their targets in the locker room, upset that you've got to get them more targets.

43:02Mike Wright:You're not looking all over the field.

43:06Andy Holloway:For me, it's offensive line because this is just a premier example for the people who are like, hey, dude, running backs don't matter as much as we believe and we want them to matter. You have Saquon Barkley who, at least to me, maybe he doesn't look as good as last year when he was just on fire every single game, but he's still Saquon Barkley. He still has those abilities, and he can't get it done based off of the blocking scheme, what's happening in front of him. They really miss DeAndre Swift. I hear what you're saying. Saying great running, even great running backs still need proper blocking schemes and good talent at the offensive line.

43:53Mike Wright:Yeah. Jason, do you have anything to add? I mean, watching those games.

43:57Jason Moore:I think the scheme sucks as well. I mean, they are bottom five in pre-snap motion. They're bottom two in play action. I just think they're a very vanilla offense right now.

44:09Andy Holloway:How do professionals, professional coaches, see the success that, like the Sheenahan, McVeighs, these guys who, at the end of the year, you look, who's top of the league in pre-snap motion. And play action. And play action. Like pre-snap motion gives you instantly more information about what the defense could possibly be running. And when you don't do it, you don't get that information. And it's your choice. You could choose to get that info. And look at the offenses. We used to do that in flag football.

44:44Mike Wright:Yes. We would move a guy in motion because we'd want to know if they're in man or not.

44:48Jason Moore:It was pretty simple.

44:51Andy Holloway:C-League flag football team. The top performing offenses at the end of the year, go look, I guarantee they're going to be at the top of the league in pre-snap motion and play action. Because even, I believe it's a myth. The myth of, well, you have to have a great running game for play action to work. No, you don't. You just have to do the play action and buy yourself a fraction of a second where the linebackers don't know if you're running the ball or not. And teams that don't do those things are easier to stop offenses, and it's so insane to me that a professional coach can look at the success of these other offenses and not steal what they're doing.

45:32Jason Moore:I also think that you're right that Saquon is phenomenal, but he's tired. I mean, that guy's – he's not – I do think they should use Tank more. They need to use Tank more. They really, really do. It's so outlandish to say the words out loud that Tank Bixby is better than Saquon Barkley. I'm not saying that at all. But on a per-touch basis, he certainly is right now. Yeah, okay. And I think it's better for their offense. like every time take touches the ball behind that offensive line he special things happen and right now Saquon is somewhere like 3.7 yards a carry and and he just doesn't look like his explosive self and I don't blame him the guy had a bajillion uh carries all the way through the Super Bowl it's like that's a good point you need to give this man some rest no it makes sense uh JL Mitchell

46:22Mike Wright:Mike writing in on Instagram what is that switch next to Mike's foot I never noticed it till this season. That's my mute button, my guy. That flushes the toilet that's built into his seat.

46:34Andy Holloway:If I gotta clear the throat, if you gotta cough. I don't know if Jason knows about pushing the mute button to clear his throat today. I've been holding down mine most of the show.

46:47Mike Wright:Because you don't want me to be like... Every once in a while, the mute button is broken, and we didn't know it was broken. And then you hear somebody just go... and then and then al starts sweating back there uh jayden daniels question from eddie are we starting jay jayden daniels with confidence let's throw that up there with the lamar jackson playoff

47:09Jason Moore:decisions uh i mean i i agree with andy's take earlier this week i don't think jayden daniels

47:13Andy Holloway:is playing so that may that will make it easy okay um if he plays the matchup actually is rough minnesota has a strong defense the the the complete destruction of their offense is making things harder on the defense uh but dude i if jill not cleared for contact okay then he's not

47:34Mike Wright:going to playoffs i mean if you're looking at lamar jayden daniels for 15 16 17 is lamar's week this week even more significant for your because your fancy playoffs are coming up sure It's either four straight bad games or it's signs of life. If you get signs of life, I feel like you're going to play Lamar in your playoffs.

47:51Andy Holloway:You need to see it. But once Jaden is back, I would play him. He doesn't have hurt legs.

47:58Jason Moore:He hurt his non-throwing arm. I agree. And I will say this. If Jaden doesn't come back, which I think is completely in the cards, he just doesn't play this year, why force him back? Now, if he's healthy, they'll bring him back. But Mariota's been great. and you should not discount Mariota. This week against Minnesota, in Minnesota, no. But the Giants coming up, the Cowboys in championship week, Mariota could be winning championships for people.

48:26Mike Wright:They run enough intentional quarterback draws with him and he's been good enough and having Terry McClure in there, I mean, it was Denver last week and he had a great game.

48:37Jason Moore:Yeah, he's had, he hasn't started, he's started what, six games this year? He's a little bit like Bursette. Three times he's been a top ten.

48:42Mike Wright:Yeah, I'm actually okay with him this week in a spot start. David Levy, he asked this question. I answered it on Twitter, or at least somebody asked a similar one. I just want to make sure that you guys are on the same page here. Should a team be allowed to not set their lineup to intentionally lose to get a better playoff matchup?

49:00Jason Moore:No, no. You have to set a full lineup.

49:03Mike Wright:That was the question. Do I have to set a legal lineup? I said yes.

49:07Jason Moore:Yeah, I mean, so Mike has this issue this week in the League of Record.

49:12Andy Holloway:League of Record.

49:13Mike Wright:It helps you if you lose? No, no, no, no.

49:15Andy Holloway:He doesn't have a tight end to play. It's transitioning to do you have to play a full lineup. Gotcha. And my bench was at the point where I don't need to make a move. My team is very strong if I don't make a move. But George Kittle is my only tight end. And so he's on by. He's on by. But it's like I got Jackson Dart as my backup quarterback for Joe Burrow. I have multiple defenses. I have Brian Robinson because I have Christian McCaffrey. And it was like – That's tough. And it has very little consequence. Like, the only thing – it affects our standings in terms of draft picks for next year because the team I'm playing, they're out.

49:59Andy Holloway:Like, you know, if draft picks were not – So what did you decide for your situation? I have – Did you have to get somebody in there? I have claims in to make myself have a legal lineup. Yeah. It sucks because it affects so, so little for me to have to do this. I'm forced to drop a player I don't want to drop just to put a stupid tight end for a game I don't need to win, and I'm projected to win even without a tight end of my lineup.

50:25Jason Moore:But it matters because the integrity of the league, the other team, their draft pick order next year.

50:30Mike Wright:That's as close to a situation to get me to think that it does that you're okay not to.

50:35Jason Moore:That's as close as I've ever gotten. On the flip side, my team right now.

50:41Mike Wright:Aren't you a legal lineup with George Kittle in there? No.

50:45Jason Moore:Yeah, there's a player there. How many points is he going to get? I don't know. Can almost have no change. I have to basically go 0-2, another guy go 2-0, and I've got to lose like 65 points. He's got a gain on me for me to change seating in the playoffs. But I hope that happens because I would much rather play the other side of the bracket. So I don't love David Montgomery this week, but he's in my lineup. I don't love Rome, but he's in my lineup. That's okay. You know they're blowing up for you this week. Oh, for sure. For sure. This is a four-touchdown David Montgomery game.

51:22Mike Wright:When you don't need them, these two guys are going to make you – they'll play well enough this week to make you have to think about them for playoff matches. That's what they'll do. Jamie wanted to know the best time for a trade deadline. We have the day before Thanksgiving. someone it extended that's late i mean day before thanksgiving this year is much past where our deadline was in both our other leagues but i will say that our our deadlines are decently

51:47Jason Moore:early because we are keeper leagues and we worry about trading 11 basically i think thanksgiving

51:53Mike Wright:is fine yeah this was a late thanksgiving man it's throwing everything off i think it got to

52:00Andy Holloway:december too quick a trade deadline right before week 13 i think that's fine my wife asked for the

52:07Mike Wright:first time ever by the way just to because i know you guys are the christmas trees before thanksgiving people it was like thanksgiving break started and she's like should we put the tree up i'm like no it's thanksgiving like we gotta wait till after it's the first time i wish i had because the latest thanksgiving can be was what it is this year the 28th and so then December's there too quick. I feel behind. Yeah, you should. I see nods from Producers Alley. My guy.

52:32Andy Holloway:For weeks, mornings, got the coffee, got the Christmas tree glowing. I got the Charlie Brown record. Oh, you've been doing this for weeks? Yeah. And it's great every time.

52:47Jason Moore:We hosted Thanksgiving dinner, right? We cooked the whole meal. Look at us. And when people showed up to my house, when people showed up to my house, there was a sleigh in my front yard and deer in my front yard and a decorated Christmas tree. Yeah, we bought some deer, some reindeer, brought them in from - The ultimate Jason bougie move. He's got real ones. No, I got reindeer. Real ones. No, but it's like, yeah, you're coming to Thanksgiving on Christmas. That's what it was at my house.

53:17Mike Wright:And what did people, were they supportive? They were all happy. Yeah. Go figure. I bet it brought them joy. Yeah. Yeah. They're like, what is this? How early is it next year? Can somebody do the research? This was just too late for me.

53:31Andy Holloway:You're saying the time between Thanksgiving and Christmas. What day of the month does Thanksgiving fall on next year?

53:38Jason Moore:Because it can be as early as the 22nd and as late as the 28th. Yeah. So the fourth Thursday. Yeah.

53:43Mike Wright:And I just figured.

53:44Andy Holloway:It looks pretty similar.

53:47Mike Wright:It's the 26th.

53:48Andy Holloway:Yeah. So the 26th. I can live with that. The two days is it?

53:51Mike Wright:A couple days to hang the lights and stuff like that. Now, I pulled out an advent calendar for the kids on the 2nd. That's not fun. We're behind.

54:01Andy Holloway:Yeah, advent calendars is day one, man.

54:03Mike Wright:I know. This is me kind of giving you some ground here. All right. I'm not about to put everything in a dome. Don't get me wrong. All right? I'm not putting all the - Big dome, big Christmas. I'm not going big dome.

54:17Jason Moore:That's dome.

54:18Mike Wright:We are actually all on the same team if we're a team retractable. Yes. We have the technology.

54:22Jason Moore:We say team dome, but retractable roof should be every stadium. A beautiful day, open the roof. Okay, so you're basically, you just want the dome for bad weather. That's all. That's it. 100%. Why would you want a roof in a great environment? Well, you two, who knew? No, yeah. I just, I don't want.

54:39Mike Wright:You guys would point at fantasy stats and how good they are in domes, and then you'd be like, let's just cover it up. I don't want.

54:43Jason Moore:Turn out the lights. Good football ruined. That's all it is. Like I say, you were just sharing the Oakland Athletics.

54:52Mike Wright:Yeah, they have kind of like a, it's a closed stadium. It's a closed stadium, but it has like massive windows and looks kind of open.

54:59Jason Moore:There should never be a roof on a baseball field. New proposal. Because you should ruin that. That's not a fun product to watch. So it's like, I would rather watch the snow or the wind.

55:09Andy Holloway:Tuning into that, what was the Cleveland game that had the wind?

55:14Mike Wright:Yeah. It looked miserable.

55:16Andy Holloway:Oh, it is.

55:17Mike Wright:And that's what makes it fun. Listen, I've got a proposal. Retractable? No, no, no. It's so weird. I just need one snow game a year. Here's the plan. Everything can be in a retractable roof, but you plan one intentional game in the worst weather possible. You figure out where that's going to be. You move the teams there. You put them out there in the elements. I don't care if players are blowing away or it doesn't matter. give me one game where I can have some Tomlin tough knuckle football in the mud in the snow in the rain one time because that is fine you take fun the two highlights are fun that we have

55:56Andy Holloway:no fantasy players from and put them in that game hall of fame New York just have a game well Cleveland and the Jets every year you don't have snow during the hall of fame no I'm just saying

56:04Jason Moore:well let's move the hall of fame game no no real football but teams we don't care about what if

56:08Mike Wright:it's artificial snow. Worst two records meet up in the snowball every year. Okay. Okay. There we go. Meet up in the snowball. And that's the punishment for sucking. Yeah. You have to play in sub-zero temperatures and get frostbite.

56:25Andy Holloway:And you have to win to get the number one pick. Oh, yes. Yes, Michael.

56:31Jason Moore:We did it, man. We just fixed football. You gotta win the snowball.

56:34Mike Wright:Win the snowball in the worst weather. We find out the day that's the worst and we move the game there. That's right. And fans don't get to come.

56:42Jason Moore:No, no, no, no, no. Because there's no stadium there.

56:44Mike Wright:We can't risk their lives.

56:45Jason Moore:There's no stadium because we don't know where the worst weather is going to be. It's just a field. We've got to go to wherever the worst, most remote, terrible weather is.

56:53Mike Wright:And the winner of the horrific snowball game, the Blizzard game of the year, gets the number one pick. Man. Football fix. We are so smart. We are the smartest men alive. That'll do it for today's episode of the show. Thank you for tuning in. starts of the week in matchups tomorrow. More matchups in the Stupid Wheel of Shame on Friday. We'll catch you then.

57:14Jason Moore:Goodbye.

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Fantasy Football show for Dec 3, 2025. Get ready for Week 14 fantasy football! Toughest start/sit decisions and player confidence levels on today’s show. Plus, backup waiver wire options, injury updates, and a Thursday Night Preview! One week until the fantasy football playoffs! Manage your redraft, keeper, and dynasty fantasy football teams with the #1 fantasy football podcast.

(00:00) Intro
(06:30) Backup Options
(10:45) NFL News
(16:15) Thursday Night Breakdown: Cowboys at Lions
(28:15) Mailbag
(28:40) Rome Odunze or Brian Thomas Jr.|
(31:15) Rome Odunze or Kyle Monangai?
(33:45) Lamar Jackson outlook
(36:20) Drop Jordan Addison or Troy Franklin?
(37:40) Eagles offense outlook
(41:40) What is that switch by Mike’s foot?
(42:20) Jayden Daniels outlook
(44:15) Playoff lineup ethics
(46:45) Trade deadlines

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