Fantasy Football - Starts of the Week + Week 11 Breakdown, TreVeyon Time! - Podcast for 11/13

9:28Mike Wright:All right. We talked about it. Ramondre, Stevenson, Kayshawn, Booty, both out tonight. Booty. And Mike will be pants off watching Thursday Night Football.

9:40Andy Holloway:If anyone on Team Hendo has pants on tonight, you're removed from the club. That's fair. The Team Hendo Pants Club? No. If you're just on Team Hendo, we need to be free, and you've got to be ready for jump kicks at any moment. rj harvey more opportunities jeans on you're gonna rip your pants stretchy jeans stretchy even

9:59Mike Wright:stretchy jeans tear away uh lineup like starting lineup oh there you go okay that's some warmers if you the buttons on the side you start with pants on because then you can't rip the pants right yeah exactly all right and it's really embarrassing like if he goes like one to carry for 10 carries and you have to put pants on during the game it feels bad that doesn't feel good but Ripping them off. Yeah. Now that's joy. Sean Payton said R.J. Harvey will have more opportunities in talking about the potential absence of J.K. Dobbins. Do-do-do-do-do-do.

10:30Andy Holloway:Breaking news. Next man up gets more opportunities.

10:33Mike Wright:We're not going to hand the ball to anyone. We have Tyler Bidet also going to be involved. Lamar Jackson, uh-oh, didn't practice on Wednesday. Knee soreness. Still expected to return today. You just don't like to see it after missing time. and Rashad Bateman had the ankle sprain. That seemed like it's going to be multi-weeks from what I've seen. Brenton Strange, Brian Thomas Jr., limited in Wednesday's practice. Not sure if either will play. This was good news. Aranda Gadsden, full participant on Wednesday's practice. Yes, we love it. This is what I was hoping for when it came across that it was a, you know, a knee-to-knee impact situation.

11:08Mike Wright:That's a contusion. Yeah, least crucial. A bruising. and it seems like Gadsden's going to play if you full practice on Wednesday Sean McVay says he expects Devontae Adams to be ready for the week 11 game against the Seahawks that's good good for the kind of magma hot fire Matthew Stafford situation

11:27Jason Moore:if you have Stafford he was almost my start of the week you've got to stay in those flames he's just been too good lately yeah

11:36Mike Wright:Brock Purdy expected to start in week 11 barring setbacks really? really? Really? Okay. Pretty good chance. George Kittle. I know. Oh, George. Go get him. We have Bucky Irving spotted for the first time. Him and Godwin were listed as limited. It was a walkthrough. I saw the walking. Was it? It was a little jog through. Was it good walking? There was some jogging going on. Okay. I don't think Irving's back anytime soon. I think it's still maybe a couple weeks.

12:09Jason Moore:Did you see the comments back and forth between Baker and Josh Allen? That's the matchup this week. It's just so delightful. You just love those two guys. Baker was making fun of Josh Allen's height or maybe his own height and the disparity. He needs a walkie-talkie to talk to him and said something like he wears two gloves. And then he has tiny hands. And then he has tiny hands. Baker was saying Josh Allen has tiny hands. Baker was saying that about Allen. They're just talking crap.

12:37Mike Wright:Alan said, well, Baker's the kind of guy who wears two gloves golfing, so you know that about him.

12:40Jason Moore:I mean, it's just like, yes, yes. What does that even mean? It doesn't matter. They're just talking some trash. Hold on.

12:46Andy Holloway:Go to the one glove of golf. The resident golfer on this team, in saying someone wears two gloves to golf, is that really insulting? A little bit. Yeah. I know one guy that he deserves the insult for wearing two gloves. He sweats a lot, and so you let glow your glove and stuff. Yeah, I mean, I think a one glove. One glove is the go-to. That feels like a... You don't see two glove golfers out there, man. It felt like an elitist joke. Teddy Bridgewater. He holds the wrong side of the paddle during... His butler doesn't drive him to the range.

13:20Mike Wright:Yeah, CJ Stroud, concussion symptoms. Not expected to play this week. Davis Mills. He's going to stick his neck out for the team. Oh, man.

13:31Andy Holloway:Davis Mills, no problem seeing over the line. No, none at all.

13:35Mike Wright:None at all. No, he's over it. Hard to see the ground. Where are they down there? He's a brontosaurus. He's a brontosaurus. All right, that was news and notes sponsored by Progressive Insurance. Quote today at Progressive.com, Progressive Casualty Insurance Company affiliates and third-party insurers. Not available in all states or situations. Coverage, subject, policy, terms, limits, and conditions. Let's get into the starts.

14:02Jason Moore:Starts of the week. Presented by Tostitos. confidence plays for week 11 jason we'll let you kick it off i'm going my guy dak he has not been good for a couple weeks was on by whatever some tough matchups but he's going on the road in the dome in the going to play the raiders road going to vegas um they're coming off the buy they've got one of the highest over-unders on the week 50 and a half points dallas has a 27 point implied team total and the raiders match up really well with how dak plays ball they're playing a Zone coverage at the highest rate in the NFL, 84 % of the time. And Dak against zone, fifth in completion percentage, fourth in touchdown passes, first in sack rate.

14:43Jason Moore:So it's a confidence play. I think Dak can be a top five guy this week.

14:45Andy Holloway:In the dome against the zone? That's right. Zone against George and CeeDee Lamb is like a mistake. Good luck. Good luck with that. And then Ferguson ripping the seam. Are you up or am I up? No, you can go ahead. All right. My start of the week at the quarterback position. Charlie and the Chocolate Factory, Cincinnati Bengals. both loving grandpa joe both loving grandpa joe we got four starts you can go ahead shake your head that joke ruled four starts for flacco so far as a bangle qb 15 4 8 and 2 i love jokes that

15:15Mike Wright:i have to put the puzzle pieces into my head and then i'm like ah i could have i could have done it's fine it's fine you see in the in the story no no no no no i liked it no a lot better than

15:25Andy Holloway:mr berlin is part of germany all right go ahead steelers are a pass funnel they rank 28th in schedule adjusted points to the quarterback position. Combine that with what Joe Flacco is doing right now and it is going to be sensational.

15:38Mike Wright:You said something yesterday that was frightening coming back from lunch. Oh yeah. And it was You can't shit.

15:44Andy Holloway:These are my secret dog. This is off air.

15:47Mike Wright:This is why this show is what it is. How dare you reveal yourself. You have Joe Burrow in two leagues. No, I'm sorry. You have Joe Flacco in two leagues. And Joe Burrow in one. And you said you're not sure if you want Joe Burrow to come back. Yeah. Wow. Because of how hyped you are on Joe Flacco target insanity. Jamar Chase is getting games of 15 targets. It's like a Gatling gun of targets.

16:15Andy Holloway:Yes. Straight to Jamar Chase. Joe Flacco is doing awesome. And look, I really said I just want Joe Burrow to be as healthy as he can. He's in a better place. Why rush back to a season where it's lost?

16:28Jason Moore:It was just crazy, though, because in our dynasty league, you have the Burrow Chase stack. Correct. And we got out of the car, and you're like, I don't think I want Burrow to come back.

16:39Andy Holloway:He still wants the Joe Chase stack. Because I have Grandpa Joe Jamar Chase stack. Yeah, all right. I do feel like you're -

16:45Mike Wright:I'm not sure if you've been paying attention. It's been awesome. It is still one of those, I think the biggest thing for me is it's great until it's not. So if you happen to catch the game where Joe goes - It could fall apart. old man uh justin herbert's gonna be my start of the week against jacksonville he is sitting at qb4 in points per game um you know with the bi-week situation he's number one in fantasy points scored total um you have a weekly rushing floor we've been enjoying that each and every week we like the pass rate over expectation it's probably time to retire any idea that mr you know harbaugh and uh why am i forgetting his name zero zero two years now right The majority of two years, we know what they want to do.

17:29Mike Wright:They want to throw the football. They want to trust the quarterback that they know is elite.

17:34Andy Holloway:It just took Justin Herbert for Harbaugh to see the light that you throw the ball in the NFL.

17:40Mike Wright:Jacksonville has allowed six consecutive top 12 weeks to quarterbacks. Are they superstars? Let me ask you. Is Gino Smith a superstar? Is Davis Mills, the QB1, a superstar? No. So Justin Herbert should be awesome this week.

17:55Jason Moore:I like it. At running back, I'm going with Aaron Jones Sr. against Chicago. Last week, he had 71 % of the snaps. He finishes the RB12. He looks significantly better than Jordan Mason. I don't know what's going on with Jordan Mason. He just hasn't looked very good. The snaps are going to Aaron Jones Sr. Vikings. They're three-point home favorites against Chicago. And we actually saw this already. Week one, Aaron Jones against Chicago. he was the running back 12 averaging six yards per touch and the bears rush defense is very bad 32nd in yards before contact so i think aaron jones is good play this week the minnesota vikings have like do you guys know what the the line is the the over under on the whole game i don't i

18:45Andy Holloway:would guess like 48 and a half 48 and a half is exactly perfect but it's the fact that the The Minnesota Vikings have an implied team total of nearly 26 points. Like, that is exciting. What do they know?

19:00Jason Moore:Well, I think the Bears games have been doing that.

19:03Andy Holloway:All the J.J. McCarthy doubt, and you're like, hey, we think this team's going to score 26 points. That's awesome. Running back, start of the week, I got Jalen Warren on the other side of Joe Flacco versus Cincinnati. 17 opportunities a game. That's great. Two-plus receptions in every single game so far. and he could hit his ceiling this week. Cincinnati, they are the run funnel. They're just, I mean, they're a funnel for all your offenses. They're just a tube. They're just a tube.

19:31Jason Moore:They don't funnel to anywhere. They just go through the tube.

19:36Andy Holloway:In Cincinnati, look, 31st in yards before contact. 31st in expected points per rush attempt. 32nd in schedule adjusted points to the running back position. He was the running back seven against Cincinnati in week seven. Season high, 127 rushing yards. I love me some Jalen Warren. And it could be just puff pieces out there, but this week we did have some talk of perhaps Jalen Warren needs even more touches. Perhaps.

20:01Mike Wright:Anything to keep the ball away from Caleb Johnson. Yeah. And DK Metcalf, apparently. And Metcalf and everybody. And Aaron Rodgers. Look, you guys know this. I've always been Mr. Rico. I'm a well-documented Rico Dowdle guy. Mike was my front man. I was pulling the strings. Rico

20:19Andy Holloway:down all against Atlanta. Did you catch I got tweeted like two weeks. It was one big you know it was the big Rico game and I got added at it on Twitter and they're like Andy way to lead the way on Rico. I'm like yes I saw this. It is like I didn't see that. Oh he's like trying to dunk on me for not like

20:39Mike Wright:Rico. Super factual.

20:40Jason Moore:Nice tweet. Sir to be fair. Are you serious? Andy has always been the Rico guy. Mike welcome aboard.

20:46Mike Wright:Yeah, thanks for jumping on board with the guy, the running back, with the most rushing yards in the entire league since week five except for Jonathan Taylor. That's Rico Dowdle.

20:55Jason Moore:Before you said except for Jonathan Taylor, you were about to blow my mind.

20:58Mike Wright:I was like, he's got more than Jonathan Taylor? Yeah, Atlanta, 31st in rush success rate, 30th in yards after contact allowed, 31st against running backs. What's the recipe for successful Carolina Panther football games? It's been Rico Dowdle. I'm taking him in Atlanta.

21:12Jason Moore:I like it. What's the recipe for a good wide receiver game? a squeaky wheel demanding more stats and that's aj brown my start of the week this week i love it when my wide receivers don't stay quiet i actually can i speak to aj brown real quick yes

21:28Mike Wright:he's not here um no sorry yeah i guess not i mean about i speak to the comments he's probably listening i watched this whole little uh i don't know if you saw i did the locker room conversation yeah i i thought everything he said was 100 it was wonderful it was legitimately wise and for those that want to criticize him about wanting stats it wasn't about that it's about the fact that he looks at the defense is always picking up the slack for the offense and he does he's not satisfied with that yes they're winning ball games he knows that at the drop of a hat if your offense isn't producing you just lose that game when the defense can't hold you up everything he said was completely on point and we said this on the show he had two great games he missed a game due to a hamstring injury and he had a tough defensive matchup i went to trade for him this morning in a couple of leagues i am 100 on board with this take for this week and moving forward yeah

22:20Jason Moore:so you know on the season he's still getting a 26 target share 31 first read target share and i love this game like the the lions eagles i mean you know the lions are going to score on the eagles they're going to have to keep up this is what aj brown was talking about the defense if it doesn't hold the way it's been holding and against the Lions it might not they're going to require more AJ Brown so I wouldn't be afraid of you know he's been inconsistent this year there's been some bad games I'd trade for him yeah sure I'm in on that I'm in on that Mike wide receiver

22:50Andy Holloway:my wide receiver star of the week I have not been able to visit the blacksmith oh come on much oh gosh well this look when you see an opportunity what to have some fun you gotta do it baby

23:05Jason Moore:yes unobtainium underpants i was gonna say if you went steel oh no no no this is not a steel underpants play holy moly maximal you don't really mean yes i do i i mean this there are

23:16Andy Holloway:leagues out there that people are gonna be like man can i do this and i 100 think that you can as a as a flex type of a player i get it you gotta say the name because no one out there knows who you're talking about Tyler Lockett we are back it is the year in 2015 I don't even I don't know what year but look Pete Carroll loves Tyler Lockett and we we talk about you know I can love a running back or a wide receiver and if a coach doesn't and they don't get on the field they can't do anything Tyler Lockett is out there he's on the Raiders ladies and gentlemen Tyler Lockett is on the Raiders, and they are playing against the Dallas Cowboys.

23:54Andy Holloway:He was the clear wide receiver, too, behind Trey Tucker. He's getting more snaps each of the – he's only been there a couple weeks, but against Dallas, I think you can do it. They are dead last in schedule-adjusted points to the wide receiver position. They have allowed multiple wide receivers each week to hit 60 or more yards over the last month. You're talking superstars like Jalen Lane and Chris Moore, Franklin and Cortland Sutton. Okay. Marv, Michael Wilson guys who do not have pedigree are putting up points and it's tough in the streets so if you need to be, if you're desperate and you're trying to find a wide receiver Jason, you just told me we're in a 14 team league and you realized that you're like I only have two wide receivers on my team through what I've been having to stash and one of them's on bye this week you know who's available in every single league

24:46Jason Moore:Tyler Lockett let me scooch here no I already have a claim on Tyler Lockett in that league just proof that that was already there he is the guy I'm picking up to play so I guess not as insane but sad

25:02Mike Wright:sometimes you gotta get crazy alright T. Higgins will be my start of the week at the wide receiver position in that Joe Flacco game against Pittsburgh we asked the simple question is Joe playing either of the Joes yes you start t higgins with with flacco he's been unbelievable he was basically not playable before now 17 fantasy points a game 81 yards a game 10 targets six for 96 and one against the steelers in week seven is start him up i like it my uh tight end start of the week tight end was

25:32Jason Moore:a little harder this week i felt like um unfortunately he did not practice on wednesday so monitor the practice reports i think it's just a veteran day of rest he's been getting a lot of work but Dalton Schultz should be started right now like uh you know so he has at least five passes for 50 plus yards in four of the last five games that alone is wonderful for a tight end um when you're getting someone off of waivers I mean obviously you hope you have Trey McBride or or you know Bowers in there but specifically with General Mills at quarterback The last two weeks where we've seen a lot of Mills two weeks ago and then the start this last week, he has 25 % of Mills' first read targets.

26:20Jason Moore:That is, for context, the only two tight ends on the season seeing that kind of first read targets, Trey McBride and Brock Bowers. So he's a fine streaming option this week for a Texans team that is a 6.5-point road favorite.

26:34Andy Holloway:All right, Mike. I got Colston Loveland here against Minnesota. the last time he did this it did the last week was disappointing that the route participation went back down with Cole Komet being back on the field but he's at Colston Loveland if you're watching the Bears game like this guy when he's given an opportunity is successful he's a good player Chicago's pretty banged up right now Rome DJ Moore did not practice on Wednesday DJ Moore I'm worried about like I there's a chance he misses this week Cole Komet was limited and is The matchup is there as well over the last six weeks. Minnesota 29th in schedule adjusted points to the tight end.

27:12Mike Wright:Good matchup for Zach Ertz. So I'll go Zach Ertz in Spain. Yeah, it makes sense. He is the Washington Dalton Schultz.

27:19Jason Moore:I went to the doc to put Zach Ertz in, and I was very upset that you had him.

27:22Mike Wright:Yeah, I love it. Dolphins can't defend the tight end position. He's a steadying presence on that offense with a bunch of banged-up, injured receivers. You know, every time they throw the ball to Ertz, it's a higher odds proposition than the Jalen Lane experience. So I'll go Zach Ertz in Miami. That was Starts of the Week presented by Tostitos. Tostitos is the proud chip and dip sponsor of the NFL again this season, sold nationwide online and at your local grocery store. Visit Tostitos for more information. We're taking a break, and then we're jumping into the forecast.

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30:00Jason Moore:fantasy forecast presented by prize picks

30:07Mike Wright:bangles chiefs cowboys and titans back from the buy colts and saints taking the week off and we head back overseas this time to spain for the last time yeah our final international game is that right that is for this season for this season and and it will probably be like every

30:23Andy Holloway:week in the future yeah and we're i've i don't remember how many were last year but it feels

30:28Jason Moore:like this has been a lot i will say this now that the time zone changed for everybody else and we held steady and firm in arizona it's pretty nice 7 30 in the morning i'd like to lead into the morning i didn't have the difference between 6 30 in the morning and 7 30 in the morning is yeah

30:43Mike Wright:and by the way if if the falcons were playing in this game we would make like a drake madrid joke okay you know what i mean why not because madrid's a better city but because of more where he's blank okay now i get it washington three and seven the dolphins three and seven oh we send you our best spain miami minus two and a half is the line was supposed to be good yeah and miami coming off a huge huge win over under is 47 and a half washington's lost four straight we are not going the right direction for jaden daniels return miami they've beaten atlanta and buffalo two of the last three weeks they are playing for their coach i feel like it's been evident even in their losses this year um but washington you they've struggled i i like the line here miami minus two and a half it makes sense to me too uh has been getting it done but not like a chan and waddle a chan and waddle are just auto starts in fantasy right now yeah i uh i went to try to trade for jalen waddle

31:43Jason Moore:in our league of record uh no dice no dice sometimes you go and you're like okay i'm gonna a trade for this player and then you look at who's got him and you go i can't is that what it was you didn't actually attempt the no i didn't attempt because i was like i will never get him i think

31:57Mike Wright:i know who's team he's on but jaylen waddle he's been great he's averaging 80 plus yards a game since tyreek's injury a chan is just a machine five and a half a carry catches the football better than most wide receivers it's been kind of you know this is one where i wouldn't play but i would monitor the Greg Dolcich.

32:16Jason Moore:Yes. Yep. In agreement and get ready to scoop him up off of waivers this week. If he has a good week, which I think he legitimately could, I'm fine to take a shot there. This is a team.

32:25Mike Wright:He struggled last week though in their big win. And so to me, that was the one I was watching for. Now I'm nervous.

32:31Jason Moore:Yeah, it's just, it's the route participation, the getting on the field. You know, he went 28%, 36%, 58 % of the snaps in the last three weeks. And they need the tight end position. They used John New Smith so much. When Darren Waller showed up, it was like, oh, a revelation and it's so i just want someone there to catch the ball at the tight end position

32:50Mike Wright:because i think there's value we're going to play everybody's least favorite game it's called uh order these commander running backs chris rodriguez is going to play he's scored in three of four to cory krosky merit hasn't scored six fantasy points since week five and then jeremy mcnichols just uh stealing four opportunities a game yeah i yeah i mean if we have to order him

33:12Jason Moore:I would put Chris Rodriguez first. Me too. Yeah. And then probably Bill then McNichols. But, I mean, it's. Would you start Chris Rodriguez this week

33:22Mike Wright:or would you start Tajay Spears against Houston? Man, that's a tough matchup.

33:27Jason Moore:I'd probably go Rodriguez.

33:28Mike Wright:That's what I'm doing. Yeah. That's what I'm doing. You messing around with wide receivers for Marcus Mariota?

33:34Jason Moore:Not really. I mean, you can throw Debo in there if you want, but it hasn't been good with Mariota. so i think mariota himself is a fine play he'll spread the ball around he'll run the ball um but

33:47Mike Wright:i i don't love the wide receivers here yardage for debo the last four stars 15 11 41 and 29 if he didn't get into the end zone i mean it's really this whole team is just they have yards right like where are they going they're just evaporating caught by an invisible person down the field um No, Mariota is still a streaming candidate this week. I mean, you have to look at what he's been able to accomplish, even in games where, I mean, like last week, for example, 18.7 fancy points per game in a game that got annihilated by Detroit. Miami's a much better matchup than that.

34:23Andy Holloway:Yeah, I think there's other.

34:25Mike Wright:Would you play Jacoby Brissett over him? I would. Even with no. Yeah. Did we not share that news? No.

34:32Andy Holloway:Yeah, that was on yesterday's show.

34:33Mike Wright:We should probably reiterate that Marvin Harrison is out this week Due to an appendicitis surgery. Appendectomy. Appendectomy. Took it out. Nope. Didn't give it back. No. From what I understand. Carolina's 5-5. Atlanta 3-6. Vegas line Atlanta minus 3.5 here at home over unders 42.5. I think this is a fair statement. These are two teams that don't know who they are. Because we don't know. Some weeks Carolina looks like they are okay. and then they go and get smushed by Tyler Shuck. And some weeks Atlanta looks okay, and then they look like they don't know what they're doing on offense.

35:15Jason Moore:Well said. And some weeks you have this matchup happen, and Carolina wins 30-0. It's like, remember that? Oh, that was week three. Yeah.

35:26Mike Wright:Where Michael Penix didn't even play the whole game. And, you know, now you know Rico's the dude, my start of the week. You play Bijan. and I think some people are a little bit disappointed. Oh, for sure. In Bichon of late. It's just annoying.

35:39Jason Moore:It's not him. It's Algier.

35:40Mike Wright:Yeah. I mean, 25 yards, 46 yards, 84 yards.

35:44Andy Holloway:Unlike how I feel about Seattle, which is obnoxious and annoying to me, Algier is good. Did you see the quote? Yeah, from Morris.

35:54Mike Wright:Mike hasn't heard it?

35:55Andy Holloway:I think we have another superstar on the team.

35:57Mike Wright:He said he is the least talked about superstar on our football team.

36:00Andy Holloway:No, the, I mean, rewinding back to Bijan getting drafted was shocking to me. Like, I know sometimes you're like, if you see, this is a top-year elite player. Okay, you took Bijan, and honestly, it's worked out, I think, pretty well. But Tyler Algier had just broken the rookie rushing record for Atlanta the year before, so it seems to not be a match. But Algier, the point is, Algier is very good. The crew that made the Ken Walker video, the Ken Walker on Madden, they did another one with Algier and Bijan. These are delightful videos. Whoever's making them, please continue to do so. So this is what it is, man.

36:48Andy Holloway:Algier is good, and he's going to get touchdowns.

36:50Jason Moore:That's the issue, is that for fantasy purposes, he's taking touchdowns away from Bijan. When they get inside the 10, they are actually using Algier more than they are Bijan. uh bijon hasn't had a rushing touchdown since week six and algier is scooping them all up and it's working for them and i agree with you it's not one of those things that you can really criticize yeah you can't be like this isn't charbs yeah there were there were times where it was like

37:13Mike Wright:well we we did criticize um uh mr arthur smith quite a bit about it yeah but the way algier is

37:22Jason Moore:playing recently it's just like he is he's he's fantastic he's almost someone that you could start in this game and just hope for a touchdown like if you're kind of always been fantastic yeah

37:33Mike Wright:he's a thousand yard rusher he is not as good as he was 4.7 a carry last year he's obviously not as

37:38Jason Moore:good as bijon and so you do take a little negative hit when you bring bijon off the field but it's a it's a fantastic you know right hook to the jab now drake linden didn't practice on wednesday due

37:49Mike Wright:to an illness but he'll be back out there and he's been the wide receiver one in back-to-back weeks you play him at home against carolina and you don't worry about who's starting on the other

37:58Jason Moore:side because they're smaller than he is yeah he's so tall uh darnell mooney don't worry about him

38:03Andy Holloway:kyle pitts well yeah we definitely can't worry about him because he is out now um i don't think

38:11Mike Wright:so we don't have that was training camp the the report was that in training camp when they reported the shoulder injury it was actually a collarbone oh okay he did not get hurt again not a new broken

38:22Jason Moore:collarbone i mean he may be trying just news about a broken yes yes uh kyle pitts though

38:27Mike Wright:i mean mooney starting or not starting you don't play him and then kyle pitts

38:32Jason Moore:he's an okay he's an okay start don't be excited no you're not excited because he's not that good but the panthers are a good matchup to target against tight ends and he had a he had a excellent

38:43Andy Holloway:matchup last week he had been steady for his floor he really has been for for the year and then you had a matchup I thought he would be great last week because he finally had a you know like a good plus matchup nothing nothing Tep McMillan what is he rest of season for you is he a tight

39:04Mike Wright:a wide receiver two or three two he's a wide receiver two rest of season I think the rest

39:09Jason Moore:of the season will be better for him. This is not the perfect matchup. You have said that for four weeks. Yeah, and I still believe it. I think the end of the season will be great for Ted. When we get there, you can tell me whether... When we get there, you can tell me if it was right or wrong. I just think the last four weeks have not been... This is not a great matchup either.

39:26Andy Holloway:7 for 99. Wide receiver 14.

39:28Jason Moore:Three weeks ago. Just saying. You can't say the whole month. Atlanta's defense is allowing the fewest passing yards per game. It's not a great matchup where you're targeting him. I think there's plenty of players. He's probably started in most of your leagues, but I'm not expecting a big blow-up game this week.

39:50Mike Wright:Okay. We care about anybody else on that roster other than Rico and Ted. Let's see. For this week. I don't think the answer is yes. No. The answer is probably no.

40:00Andy Holloway:No. I mean, no. Based on matchup, I don't think there's anyone else I'm going to sneak in. Man, Chuba, how sad.

40:10Mike Wright:I mean, Chuba didn't really do anything wrong. No, that's what I'm saying. I mean, I think he'll be. He can wipe his tears with his$100 bills.

40:17Jason Moore:He's paid a lot of money, and that's fine. But it's like crazy because he gets injured. He does nothing wrong. He hasn't changed who he is. He was a good player. He gets three carries last week.

40:26Mike Wright:He was the running back 13 last year. He didn't even play 17 weeks. What he did wrong is the other guy's better.

40:33Jason Moore:Yeah. I mean, just wild to think like he was deleted.

40:39Mike Wright:This is what I was talking about. Like when you have a guy you like, the other guy you have to hate. That's the Mike Wright experience. You hate Ramondre, right? You hate Charbonnet, right? Yeah. I actually don't.

40:50Andy Holloway:I don't hate you, but you do.

40:52Mike Wright:You hate him. All right. We'll move on. Tampa Bay, six and three. Buffalo, six and three. Buffalo, five and a half point home favorites. Over-unders, 48 and a half. Both teams coming off a loss last week. Both teams destroyed by big runs last week. Achan a couple of big runs. Hindo a couple of big runs against Tampa. This game seems interesting with the shootout potential of 48.5 points over under. Both teams top five in combined points per game on the season on average, so you normally see games up over to the 50-point mark when they're out there. Okay, well, Baker, Josh Allen, how are we feeling?

41:30Jason Moore:I think it should be a fun game there I will say there's a little bit of concern with weather likely going to be some snow showers and 15 mile an hour winds so you don't love that but what I do love is two quarterbacks that more often than not get it done and especially in big moments and this is a big game I think they'll come to play I will say we're I'm pretty disappointed with i mean the the bills have struggled right they just got there they got shellacked by the dolphins they they got laid over the lap and full spanked like we're talking pants down they did that's what happened to the bills last week but the bills have lost i think like three of their last five games they lost to atlanta that it like i don't i don't think we just look at them as like the super bowl contender the mvp but i i think they're struggling right now

42:24Mike Wright:well what's weird is you have two quarterbacks you have a lot of confidence in you just said it but then other than Emeka Abuka who is an auto start every week name another name the next best start from this game at wide receiver I would say Tez so another Tampa Bay player zero and then I would say all men so you say three Tampa Bay players

42:47Jason Moore:yeah I mean if Kincaid is is playing I would put Kincaid ahead of Otten but yeah I mean It's really difficult to have production from the Buffalo wide receiver group. Do you like Tez's flex play this week? I do. I do. I mean, I'm going to monitor the weather. I'm a little bit – it's too early to know. But if the game conditions are fine, he has been very, very good for fantasy. And I don't think it's going away. He's a rookie. He's talented. He's got a good quarterback. Right now, without Mike Evans, he's very necessary.

43:17Mike Wright:But at his weight, if the wind starts picking up. Right.

43:20Jason Moore:He might be blown off his routes.

43:22Andy Holloway:Dude, Tez, that jersey better be snug. Yeah, you don't want to get any sail effect. You're out of here, brother. You are up and away. Paper airplane just. But could they use that to their advantage?

43:34Jason Moore:You'll be at Oz by the afternoon. Could they use that to their advantage? Imagine how fast he could be if the wind is at his back.

43:40Andy Holloway:They're like, they win the toss and they're like, so do you want to defer? Do you want the ball? No, we're going that direction. That's right.

43:46Jason Moore:Watch this. Tez, the sailboat. And Baker's just going to punt the ball so that he can get it far enough.

43:53Andy Holloway:Oh, I was thinking, like, just hand him the ball and then yeet him up in the air. And he just looks like a flying squirrel.

44:00Mike Wright:Oh, my gosh. 80 yards in the air. Tess Johnson. What a jump. Dalton Kincaid's probably going to miss. Would you mess around with Dawson Knoxville? He's an okay backup option. It's incredible to have no receiving options you want to play. It really is crazy. For a quarterback, you know, that will be great and throw for a bunch of yards.

44:18Jason Moore:Yeah. Josh Allen will have 25 fantasy points in this game or far more. That's his baseline and you don't start a single receiving option.

44:25Mike Wright:I think Kala Shakir and a full PPR would be the one to go with. Okay. We talked about Odden. We'll take a break here and talk, well, a much, much, much more depressing game.

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46:37Mike Wright:I don't think I really sold this game well coming out of the break. Like, if you were going to like... Not well, but appropriately. Okay. Houston, 4-5, coming off that sweet Davis Mills-led comeback over Jacksonville, taking on the 1-8 Tennessee Titans. How many points will they score, you ask? Not a lot, says Vegas. Houston, minus 6.5 on the road over under 37.5. Titans with just 15.5 points.

47:03Jason Moore:Yeah. They're not getting there. If you want to bet the over, you are hoping for Texans defensive scores.

47:12Mike Wright:I mean, even with the game in Tennessee, no hope, huh?

47:15Jason Moore:No. Not for the Tennessee side.

47:17Mike Wright:Tennessee is in position for the number one pick right now.

47:20Jason Moore:Yeah. You know, we talked about this a month ago. It was like Cam Ward was not available for trade. Their entire team going to the trade deadline was like, everyone except for Jeffrey Simmons and Cam Ward, come get our pieces. why would Cam Ward like you're you are going to draft a quarterback this year I really man no you're not no you're not a zero percent chance then they are stupid oh no I mean look everything

47:48Mike Wright:around them everything around him is terrible I you don't draft Cam Ward number one and draft

47:54Andy Holloway:another quarterback you have to be 100 sure that the other quarterback is so much better and I don't I don't think it's not the case I don't think we're at that point this year I mean there's a lot

48:03Mike Wright:of mock drafts right now that have number one number two pick not going to the quarterback

48:06Jason Moore:position uh that's fine i'm not let's say they don't they will be bad they will continue being bad cam ward your out yeah i mean the the titans and cam ward look like a non-nfl team well they

48:23Mike Wright:did have the number one pick last year without cam ward so you you this is the fourth consecutive number one pick that has seen the head coach change in the middle of the season the structure around him i i can't imagine throwing the football to iow manor and dk as the foundation of your future i i would be shocked if they gave up on cam ward that just seems like a a wild is ridley

48:46Jason Moore:back this week he's been he's been out with the hammy they're coming off the bye um it'd be an

48:52Mike Wright:interesting you know keep your eyes on that this is the number one defense in points per game and yards per game in houston they've given up the least points and yards the tennessee offense has scored the least points and accumulated the fewest yards yeah this is so you i mean 15 and a half

49:12Andy Holloway:points for tennessee that would be an amazing day it's the uh movable object versus the unstoppable

49:19Mike Wright:force i mean you don't i don't this is why tajay spears is on my bench this week i would try to get Pollard on my bench I would put all of the receivers even if Ridley came back on my bench I would play zero Tennessee Titans I would play Woody Marks oh yeah I might mess around with Nick Chubb if I'm desperate this week because I think I think you'll see the opportunities go up in this game and game script you got to remember Houston what have we seen from the Woody Marks snap experience it's games like last week you're down 29 to 10 the majority of snaps went to Woody Marks the last time they were down by a bunch of points to Baltimore.

49:57Mike Wright:Then he disappeared for a few weeks. I don't think that locker room has said, hey, Woody's our only player. Maybe they should. I'm not saying they shouldn't.

50:04Andy Holloway:Yeah, it could be that way.

50:05Mike Wright:But I think that you're going to see a difference of utilization in this one with the lead.

50:10Andy Holloway:Two carries inside the five last week for Woody Marks is that with the 80 % snap share is pretty exciting.

50:19Mike Wright:Yeah, I mean. I will project that he has under 55 % of snaps this week.

50:25Andy Holloway:Okay.

50:26Mike Wright:Wow. For that team. Wet blanket over here. I'm sorry.

50:29Jason Moore:It's tough. I understand what you're saying game script-wise, and the fact that if this one, they're up big or dominating, maybe you get Chubb more work. But the issue is it's hard for me to start someone who, like last week, Chubb played 13 % of the snaps. You just can't bank on that. So I think Nico, Dalton Schultz, and Woody Marks are fine, and then you check out of this game.

50:53Mike Wright:With Nico, you said, and Dalton Schultz. The Chicago Bears are 6-3. They take on the 4-5 Minnesota Vikings. Minnesota three-point home favorites. You guys were talking about it earlier, over under 48-and-a-half. You like that. Minnesota won this game, Monday Night Football 27-24, second-half comeback. That was the J.J. McCarthy, two touchdowns, 143, second half in first half looked like um how jason feels about cam ward yeah in the second half he redeemed it in a fourth quarter both of these quarterbacks though in this game they are they can be erratic can be a little i don't know like a little panicky yeah oh yeah yeah

51:35Andy Holloway:caleb williams definitely can uh go panic and jj mccarthy is he was limited on wednesday I feel like it kind of slipped through the cracks a bit of he did injure his hand, his throwing hand, last week in the second half where the first half, McCarthy looked like, hey, the good stuff for McCarthy that we saw two weeks ago, it's happening again, then really falls apart. He had the hurt hand. Was that a big cause for it or not? That's TBD.

52:11Mike Wright:Do you feel like maybe he should wear less than an entire tin of eye black? Would that help maybe the situation? Maybe.

52:20Jason Moore:You should look for some changes right now. Like when things aren't going well, change some stuff up.

52:24Mike Wright:Like at some point when you have less bare skin showing than the actual eye black, you could be going. He uses shoe polish actually. It looks like shoe polish.

52:33Jason Moore:He just smears his whole face with shoe polish so that he can become nine. his ultimate persona. I don't care for that. It's cringy. Oh, you don't know about nine?

52:46Andy Holloway:Yeah. Nine. That's when the dog comes out. He's got an alternate personality. When he steps on the field. He calls himself nine? Yeah. He's got his little...

52:57Mike Wright:I thought you guys were joking about him throwing so many nine routes because he throws the ball deep all the time. No, no, no.

53:03Jason Moore:He calls it nine? Yeah, that's who he becomes is nine. and you see he's got Batman he's got this fancy chair yeah have you seen his chair

53:12Andy Holloway:I don't know about the chair like a transformation chair yeah a transformation

53:16Jason Moore:meditation chair that has like electronics I am lowering his dynasty ranking as you're speaking I think he's an investor in the company as well wait nine no this chair he sits in to meditate to become nine before the game what are you talking about the best part is these aren't jokes These aren't jokes. I'm not making their funny statements. They really need to be. They're funny statements. They need to be jokes. Yeah. Go get them, nine. This is Caleb Williams and J.J. McCarthy. This game, like, you know, you talk about players like Jamison Williams who has such a range of outcomes. This game could be awesome or awful.

53:55Jason Moore:Yeah. I'm excited. I'm scared.

53:59Mike Wright:Okay, Aaron Jones, your start of the week, DeAndre Swift. You play him when he's active. I'd be pretty nervous about Monongah going up against the Vikings running defense.

54:08Andy Holloway:It went right back to DeAndre Swift last week.

54:10Mike Wright:Monongah will be a touchdown only. You're miserable. Yeah.

54:16Jason Moore:Last week you got lucky with a touchdown. And always a good insurance option though because Swift is banged up. So if he misses more time, we saw Monongah awesome.

54:25Mike Wright:If you knock Swift out for the year, if you knew he was gone, Monongah is probably top 10. Yes, I would agree with that. roma dunze you play him mike how do you feel about this question luther burden if dj moore's out which he might be he was a goose last week luther burden who you brought up uh you know we talked about him on the dynasty podcast this week i like him talked about him with you on the day that jason didn't show up um it's a bad day luther burden or or your start of the week tyler lockett i would play tyler

54:54Andy Holloway:locket okay i'm not confident enough in the the usage of burden that i should say the slow play of luther burden and colston loveland has been very frustrating as like burden especially because it's like zacchaeus zacchaeus is second on the chicago bears and receptions we little disgusting yeah this is like sorry zacchaeus oh man yeah that was uh offensive it felt pretty bad like

55:22Jason Moore:You're doing good work. You're playing hard, and good for you.

55:25Andy Holloway:Good for you. Awful. NFL player, that's fine. He belongs on the field, but it's like true to hit your ceiling as an offense. It's Luther Burden. The loved one, I understand. Cole Komet's a good player. I don't – I'm not going to dunk on Cole Komet. I think he's good. But the way that – so I did a film review on Luther Burden. If you don't listen to the Dynasty podcast, number one, you should. Check it out. You'll get some good information each week. uh one of the hosts we go back and we watch the film on someone and because i'm excited about luther burden i think he is the talent is massive if he can truck stick you if you're if you're right in this scheme luther burn is going to be awesome the the way he was being utilized to me wasn't great it's like a lot of clearing things out for other players when he when he gets the ball great things happen we're just not at the point where i he's going to reliably get the ball We would have to see it first for Luther Burton.

56:24Mike Wright:The snap count was its highest of the year last year, so you can hope for something there. And the high over-under. You talked about Loveland.

56:31Andy Holloway:It should, and for Burton, he should surpass that this week if D.J. Moore doesn't go.

56:35Jason Moore:What is Roma Dunze rest of season? Like, what is Roma Dunze?

56:40Mike Wright:Wide receiver one. Yeah?

56:42Jason Moore:Top 12?

56:43Mike Wright:Yeah, I mean, back end. Back end 10 to 12.

56:45Andy Holloway:He's a top 12 type of finish wide receiver who will have – games where you're just like what in the world how does how has Rome not gotten the ball I think

56:56Mike Wright:I think the you know we talked about burdens opportunities with the DJ Moore injury but a dunes it gets solidified with it from a production standpoint but Loveland you brought him up I think people desperately would love to hear us talk about the uh Justin Jefferson Jordan Addison decision making process the targets were all there last week the production was not yeah the catch

57:15Andy Holloway:rate for Jefferson with McCarthy is bad. And that's what I was saying of Woods. Was it the hand over the second half that led to a lot of these errant passes? I mean, I'm still playing Jefferson with full confidence, especially in this matchup.

57:31Mike Wright:Right now, Jeff, if you want to look at the numbers for McCarthy, he's got an interception rate two times higher than any other quarterback when he faces a man defense. He is not reading that and making the decisions he needs to make right now yeah he's throwing the ball down the field a lot that turned into an interception last week you want to have confidence with the schedule for Jefferson and Addison and so it's frustrating

57:54Jason Moore:that you're not locked in yeah I think there are brighter days ahead we're we're very recency biased by nature and off the bad game we want to just say oh things are bad Jordan Addison to me is a good play this week obviously Justin Jefferson you're playing every week so it should it should

58:11Mike Wright:get better green bay is five three and one a lot of criticism for the offense this past week new york giants two and eight green bay minus seven on the road here over under 42 and a half we did not have any line movement with the jamis news also jamis's press conference oh man was ridiculous once again the greatest city of the world he also made that's a hamilton reference yeah he did the He did the joke. It was wonderful. Because he got nervous. He's like, oh, people are not getting this. I mean, he also was asked about whether he's going to get a lot of sleep over the next few days before he starts and answered it in the most weird fashion ever.

58:51Mike Wright:I mean, what a dumb question.

58:55Jason Moore:Okay, that is a dumb question.

58:56Mike Wright:I do think he didn't understand it. But we're here. We're here for Jameis. We want to see it happen. We can feel a little bit more confident in taking your shot at, like, uh Darius Slayton if he's active yeah Slayton being limited with the hamstring because he kind of he went in and out of you know who else was limited was Parker Washington we should mention that in the news I don't like hearing hamstring situations on Wednesday for either of those guys

59:18Andy Holloway:yeah I do agree with that but if Slayton goes he while the matchup is tough that doesn't matter to Jameis Winston he's gonna go down the field and now that is Darius Slayton's role four for 89

59:29Mike Wright:Should we just bench the Giants? No. No, I don't think so. I mean, this is Green Bay. We didn't – this is going to be a problem, dude. This is going to be a problem. I'm not playing Slayton.

59:39Jason Moore:I think Wandale and Slayton are both playable this week.

59:44Mike Wright:Okay. I guess I'm just – I'm less confident because I think Green Bay maybe makes these drives three and outs, and you're not getting the production.

59:54Andy Holloway:Yeah, but you're going to get a lot of shots at it.

59:58Jason Moore:Just take one. Exactly. Just takes one of those to connect. It reminds me, I mean, obviously, we saw this a couple years ago in, or was it last year, Cleveland, when Jerry Judy and Cedric Tillman and everyone started going off. You know, it's like when Jameis comes in, he's going to throw the ball a billion times. I don't think his green dot works on his helmet. I think he just goes in the huddle. It's just like, all right, guys, here's what we're going to do.

1:00:24Mike Wright:It would be nice if they weren't playing Green Bay, man. That would be more fun. Yeah, I can agree with that. uh jordan love it it might work this week yeah that's the highest possible recommendation i mean it did work three weeks ago the offense looks kind of broken right now they don't have um you know you've got romeo dobbs that went out with a chest injury golden didn't play you know i like watson the most right now on a week-to-week start basis and it should

1:00:55Andy Holloway:be okay for him in this one yeah the route participation has been moving up to where we need to be for christian watson the the danger of just any of the passing attack is defensive scoring and i mean normally i'm not very worried about that but james is a pick six machine and if uh if the one of those first two drives the giants have you get a pick six it's going to be demoralizing for your fantasy team yeah i'm i'm not starting jordan love in this matchup

1:01:32Mike Wright:wasn't he uh wasn't he the um streamer jordan love did he come up on the streaming episode on waver day okay maybe that was just me thinking about him for a minute uh josh jacobs of course Tracy and Singletary, no thanks. I think no thanks.

1:01:51Andy Holloway:Tracy, the 16 opportunities last week.

1:01:54Mike Wright:Menunga or Tracy?

1:01:55Andy Holloway:Tracy. I'll take the work.

1:01:57Mike Wright:Chris Rodriguez or Tracy?

1:02:00Andy Holloway:Ooh.

1:02:03Andy Holloway:I think that's still Tracy. Demarcato or Tracy? That one. Demarcato will get, I think, he'll be a timeshare. Have we heard on Bam Knight? Is he? Because Bam Knight got hurt. If it's down to just Michael Carter and DiMarcato, I'm going to go DiMarcato. These sound like personal questions. No, these are just bottom-of-the-barrel questions.

1:02:23Mike Wright:But, yes, they are personal. Cincinnati 3-6, Pittsburgh 5-4. Pittsburgh with the second-highest implied point total of the week. They're 5.5-point home favorites. The over-under is 49.5. We already illuminated with the Justin Fields information earlier in the show how bad Cincinnati's defense is.

1:02:40Jason Moore:Yeah, I mean, if you want an example of how bad their defense is. I do. second highest over under of the week or implied team total is the Steelers? Yeah. I mean. Have you seen their offense? They scored 10 points last week. And they're going to score more than that this week. A lot more.

1:02:56Andy Holloway:I mean, you have the Justin Fields example we gave. You can also just go, hey, Aaron Rodgers, in the last five weeks, he has been a top 10 quarterback one time. He played the Bengals that week.

1:03:08Mike Wright:Yeah, he's probably going to do it again.

1:03:10Andy Holloway:I mean. It's just the question is. He was a streamer, right? I mean, he was the streamer on the Tuesday show. Yes, Aaron Rodgers is in play as a streamer. I knew I had been part of that show. There we go. It's just where will the production go? The Cincinnati Bengals are atrocious. We've been over it, but they're particularly bad against tight ends. And I think last time they played, like, everyone. Jonu, Fryermuth. Yeah, it's like Jonu. Darnell. Jonu had 10 points against the Bengals. Pat Friermuth had – he was the tight end two that week. And then did Darnell do something to him? Yeah, oh, yeah.

1:03:48Andy Holloway:He got a touchdown. He was – he did. He had a touchdown as well.

1:03:51Mike Wright:And left some huge footprints in the grass.

1:03:53Andy Holloway:So it's the – will anything actually go to DK Metcalf or is it just going to go to all the tight ends?

1:04:00Mike Wright:I mean, I'd play A.J. Brown over Metcalf. I'd play Jamison Williams over Metcalf. I'd play Zay Flowers over Metcalf. Yeah, I get that. I'd play my sister over Metcalf.

1:04:09Andy Holloway:Oh, I don't know. That's too far. Is that too far? Yeah. She won't score anything. No, I don't think she's. I do very much enjoy you turning on DK Metcalf, though.

1:04:21Mike Wright:Look, if you don't throw him the football. Oh, and we won't. I mean, Jalen Warren, we're in. Rodgers is a streaming candidate. Flacco, let's go. Chase Brown, let's go. Jamar Chase, Tee Higgins. Uh-huh. And the end of that matchup, unless you have anything else to add, Jason.

1:04:37Jason Moore:Not really. I mean, with that type of matchup, Calvin Austin could end up with a good game. But, yeah, I'll pass on that.

1:04:44Mike Wright:Bucky Irving seen, quote, participating in practice again on Thursday. That's great. Same with Chris Godwin in the fibula injury. Participating in practice is in quotes. So, there you go. That was Fantasy Forecast presented by PrizePix. Join millions of users and sign up for America's number one fantasy sports app. We've all had a lot of fun on it this year. Use the code FOOTBALLERS and get$50 in lineups. when you play$5 we'll be revealing our lineups tomorrow on the fantasy face up along with a little spin of the wheel of shame tomorrow that will go to an attendance situation before the that'll go to are you over are you over the big

1:05:27Jason Moore:I feel great these pipes are clean you still don't have a mustache No, it's, man. Halloween was not kind to me this year. It was two weeks ago. I mean. What's going on? I feel like I should be able to grow this faster. I feel like you should be back. I didn't have a beard back then. And my little, what do they call this? Your soul patch? The soul patch. Your little devil patch? Soul patch. I disgust myself.

1:05:55Mike Wright:That's okay. Another month or two, you'll be back to normal. More matchups tomorrow, like I said. So we'll be into the fantasy face-off. and enjoy the game tonight. We don't need to Triforce again, right? No.

1:06:08Jason Moore:For Hendo? It's full unity. The whole world is together. Yeah. Okay.

1:06:13Mike Wright:Can't abuse the power.

1:06:14Andy Holloway:This is the closest we will get to world peace. Everyone wanting Henderson to be great tonight.

1:06:20Mike Wright:It's going to be fire on Twitter tonight.

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