Fantasy Football - Starts of the Week + Week 14 Breakdown, TESLAA TIME! - Podcast for 12/4

10:04Jason Moore:And then Trey Benson, if he doesn't play this week, he's done for the year because his 21-day window is coming up.

10:11Mike Wright:Big names for today's matchups. Drake Lund did not practice with the PCL. T. Higgins returned to a limited practice trying to get back from the concussion protocol. Dalton Kincaid limited. Chris Olave didn't practice. re-aggravated his back issue. So we're monitoring that. Mike Evans, Jalen McMillan, both limited, and their 21-day windows are open. That doesn't mean they'll play this week. That was today's news and notes, sponsored by Progressive Insurance. Quote today at Progressive.com. Progressive Casualty Insurance Company affiliates and third-party insurers not available in all states or situations.

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10:47Jason Moore:Starts of the week.

10:49Mike Wright:Well, Mike, I'll let you kick it off with your quarterback start of the week.

10:53Andy Holloway:week 14 it's a big one I will say this is a a interesting and hard week for starts of the week where it's like the the don't brainers versus the where you're trying to find the matchup and the the good plays the sneaky plays it's it's a tougher week for it but this week I'm going with Trevor Lawrence I think he was one of our streamers of the week uh but I think he is worth a start we got the over under at 48 and a half that's the third highest he has been a top 12 quarterback in four of the past five weeks. And the Colts defense, they're beatable. They're 28th in passing yards per game allowed and 27th in pressure rate, so they're not getting to the quarterback.

11:29Andy Holloway:They're not stopping the pass. Trevor Lawrence, for all of his flaws, I think that he's in play this week.

11:36Mike Wright:Well, my stream of the week is my start of the week. Jared Goff himself. Jared Goff. Highest over under the week. We already know about this. The dominator himself he can propel you into the playoffs dallas has been a punching bag all year long against fantasy uh for fantasy quarterbacks dead last in yards allowed but don't worry also dead last in points allowed nice we're just gonna be dead last in everything and golf can be dead first in your lineup i mean you could call that first yeah you don't have to call it last no no it's gonna be great golf's gonna be awesome regardless of the aman raw situation yeah he'll be fine the

12:16Jason Moore:matchup is great. I'm going with Matthew Stafford. He's coming off a week where he threw a pick six and another interception. They lost shockingly to the Carolina Panthers. I think it's time he's going to get that MVP odds back up over Drake May again. He's number two right now in the odds. The Rams have the third highest implied team total. This is a really, really cold week. Like all around the country, it's going to be games in the 20s, some snow. I love that this just in a dome, kind of protected. He also ranks number one in passing touchdowns, number two in passer rating, and he's facing the lowest pressure rate in the NFL.

12:55The Cardinals aren't a scary defense,

12:57Jason Moore:so I would have Stafford in my lineup this week.

13:00Andy Holloway:At running back, I think you can play Devin Neal this week against Tampa Bay. Whoa. The opportunities are there. Week 12, 74 % of the snaps, 14 opportunities. Last week, 82%, and he got up to 17 total opportunities. ran a route on 71 % of the dropbacks. And since week nine, the Bucs have struggled a bit against fantasy running backs. We had the Trevo game, James Cook, Bam Knight, had over 15 points against this Tampa Bay defense. So it's not a ceiling play, but if you're looking for someone who's just going to get a bunch of opportunities, then Devin Neal, and still be able to do something with it, I think he's playable.

13:43Mike Wright:We know about the run funnel for the Buffalo defense. They're dead last in rushing touchdowns allowed, 31st in yards per carry allowed, 30th in schedule. 34st. 34st. Look, it all leads to Chase Brown of the Cincinnati Bengals against Buffalo this week. If you had the patience to stay with Brown, you've been rewarded. It was not a great start to the year. Not only was the team injured, but he was awful, and yet he's basically doubled his fantasy production from week 6 to 13 per week from where he was at the beginning of the year. I love Chase Brown against Buffalo. All right.

14:18Jason Moore:All right. I'm going with Quinshawn Judkins against the Tennessee Titans. If you look at the full season, the Titans are really, really bad against the run. If you look at the last month, they've been getting much better against the run. However, this is still a situation where I am absolutely playing Quinshawn Judkins. It's very rare to find the Browns in favored games where you expect them to win. They are in this matchup. They're four-and-a-half-point home favorites, and he's getting all the work. He's getting all of the red zone work. Six rushing touchdowns inside the red zone, that's as many as Henry or Jameer Gibbs.

14:57Jason Moore:Since week six, he's the only player in the NFL with 100 % of their teams carries inside the five-yard line. So I think he's got great touchdown opportunities here in this game. All right, a wide receiver. Okay, I got it.

15:10Mike Wright:Oh, gosh. Come on.

15:11Andy Holloway:Come on. Guys. Guys. Hit the button. Come on. Come on. Go to Andy.

15:21Mike Wright:That's fine. Also, give me the camera. Guys.

15:27Jason Moore:Oh, this is perfect. I mean, guys. This is perfect. Come on. What could go wrong? Come on. It's Jameson Williams. Come on. Oh, my goodness. Go to Jason. It's Amon Ra. Let's hope Amon Ra doesn't play, guys. My wide receiver, I'm going with Michael Wilson in that. Okay. So the news on Marvin Harrison is negative. I don't know for sure if he plays. I'm scared to play him. But Michael Wilson still had seven targets in a down game last week. He was still very involved. Two out of the last three games we know. He was amazing. You cannot run on the Rams, like, at all. Bam Knight is not going to get it done against the Los Angeles Rams.

16:09Jason Moore:I run from them. Yeah, and so they're going to have to throw the ball. Jacoby's going to throw for 250-plus, and I think Michael Wilson will be the number one wide receiver at the end of this game over Marvin Harrison. If I had both and Marv was playing, I would play Michael Wilson. I just don't want people to completely go, hey, Wilson had a bad game, Marv was back, so you can't play Wilson. I don't think that's true.

16:32Andy Holloway:at the tight end position it's going to be insert buffalo bills tight end uh they're playing the bangles we love the matchup and uh i think we are the latest that i've read on dalton kinkade is that it's trending to be he'll be active and i just saying like if i have dalton kinkade and i've been trying to piecemeal a tight end position from just the scraps on waivers i would go right back to Dalton Kincaid. It carries risk because of missing time with, I'm pretty sure it's a hamstring, always risk of re-aggravation. But he's been out long enough that I think once he's back, he will have success against the Cincinnati Bengals.

17:14Andy Holloway:And should he miss, I think rolling the dice on Dawson Knox, if you're in a deeper league, does make sense.

17:19Mike Wright:It's because the Bengals defenders don't see tight ends.

17:22Andy Holloway:Yeah, somehow they don't, which is wild because tight ends are generally humongous.

17:26Mike Wright:Yeah, they don't see it. you know me I'm famous for a few sayings kids don't do drugs that's one of the ones I always say that and then I always say don't play Kyle Pitts but this week I'm going to say play Kyle Pitts last week 8 targets 7 for 82 what are you doing I don't think London's back and I think Pitts is guaranteed for 5 and about this many 55 Seattle cannot defend the tight end position either he will not goose you which is a big accomplishment for the tight end position

17:57Jason Moore:all right I'm going with a better tight end I'm gonna go with Brenton Strange okay uh against Indy he returned after two months off with back-to-back top five finishes last week he was on the field for 83 percent of the snaps had 45 yards and a touchdown uh you know if you're constantly getting goose eggs or you don't know what to do you need you know to have more than five points at the tight end position uh while hoping for a touchdown I I think Strange is good He's also got a great playoff schedule coming on, and this week takes on the Colts defense that ranks 28th in schedule-adjusted fantasy points, 31st in receiving yards allowed to tight ends.

18:36Jason Moore:So I think the matchup is good. The fact that you've got Parker Washington dealing with his injury as well, I'm happy to start Brenton Strange this week.

18:45Mike Wright:All righty. There you go. Kyle made all these bullet points for JMO and Tesla. We're not using any of those. We'll take a break. We'll get into the forecast.

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21:08Mike Wright:It's week 14. The 49ers, Giants, Panthers, and Patriots are taking a week off. Amazing. From my understanding, the Patriots actually, they wanted to play, but they couldn't find anybody with a worse record than the teams they've already played. Right. And they're like, I guess we'll just face nobody. It's tough, man. It's going to be. It's tough. It'll be fascinating. I'm not. Yeah. I mean, it's basically the top picks in the draft. Like, if you want to look at their schedule, it's the top picks in the draft. You get New Orleans and Tennessee and Cleveland and Atlanta and the Jets and the Bengals and the Giants.

21:44Mike Wright:and this is what we saw. I mean, they beat Tampa Bay. That was a tough game on the road. I want to give them credit for that. And they beat Buffalo. They beat Buffalo 23-20 on the road. They did lose to the Raiders and Pittsburgh. But you played the schedule in front of you, so there you go.

21:59Jason Moore:The Patriots this year are, I mean, obviously they're playing a fourth-place schedule. You always want the fourth-place schedules. That works for, you know, the 49ers. They got the easy schedule. They're winning games, the Patriots. Last year, this was the Commanders, you know, and it was like, oh, how are they going to fare when it's not the easiest schedule out there, and it's tougher.

22:21Mike Wright:Yeah, no, look, I think Drake May is awesome. I think having him a part of the story this year, being a favorite as a young quarterback, we were talking about the quarterbacks that were drafted last year with Jaden and Drake May and then Bo Nix and Caleb Williams. That's a great new crop of quarterbacks.

22:40Andy Holloway:And J.J. McCarthy. and I'm too and me

22:47Mike Wright:it's not quite what we've gotten this year either like we have Jackson Dart who I think excites everybody

22:55Jason Moore:Tyler Shuck has impressed me Tyler Shuck is Tyler Shuck is not no I get it they will draft a quarterback his jersey sales are not high that's all I'm saying but on film I'm just really

23:09Mike Wright:i am still my son came with came to me the other day i just told this to mike he's like dad dad listen we gotta buy tyler shuck cards we gotta buy tyler by the he's like i believe i believe in him and i said it'll be tough because they're gonna be at the very tippy top of the draft maybe the number one pick and tyler shuck is the brandon whedon of his eight of his of his generation he is older yeah and you have to make this this judgment call right away do you build your franchise around him and i just think it's going to be a hard hard hard sell because he might be more career backup type guy i don't know the way this year ends may determine what they do because they could trade the pick to a quarterback needy team you we already know their situation on the cap they need more quantity of rookie contracts yeah

23:56Jason Moore:the the truth is shuck is playing for his job right now because if he goes out there and wins two or three more games along the way in the last month, he's going to literally stop them from having the pick that will allow them to get the number one or number two quarterback.

24:13Mike Wright:All righty, Seattle 9-3, Atlanta 4-8. That's our first matchup. And Vegas line here, Seattle minus seven. I made Jason a mic at lunch yesterday. This was funny. I had just seen the brand-new Super Bowl odds. Rams are number one plus 435 or 425 whatever and I made them try to guess the team that was

24:36Andy Holloway:number two in the Super Bowl to make the Super Bowl and we took about 10 guesses we got we we nailed three four five six seven yeah you got eight you got them all but not number two but

24:48Mike Wright:number two is the Seattle Seahawks yeah same division as the Rams over under here 44 and a half. Kyle's note, birds of a different feather don't flock together. He's not feeling good about his Falcons right now. Seattle's number one in point differential in points per game. Sam Darnold, it has not been good for fantasy the last four weeks against Arizona, the Rams, Tennessee, and Minnesota.

25:13Andy Holloway:Should be better this week.

25:14Mike Wright:It should be better this week. We have seen the opportunities for Kenneth Walker increase as they should because Mike has a, he's just having a month.

25:23Andy Holloway:Yeah, just, but he could do, you know, those carries inside the five? Ken Walker could do that. He can do that just as well as Charbonnet. I don't think that's true. I do.

25:35Jason Moore:Charbonnet's been really efficient on those carries. He's actually been a very good, like, I don't blame them for doing something that's succeeding. You know what I mean? It's kind of like, I want to be really upset that Tyler Algier, in this same game, is used. Like, come on Bijon can do that but also dadgummit Tyler Algier's good too it sucks yeah yeah it's uh

25:59Mike Wright:it should be a game that Seattle comes out in and has a good performance for fantasy Jackson Smith and Jigba should get right back on track it is it was very strange because he had been just so automatic and last week they kind of took him away they still took care of business we haven't seen Rasheed Shahid at all I mean he's four for 37 you talk about Jacoby Myers strange Jacoby Myers in Jacksonville has done a lot Rasheed Shahid has maybe a foot still on the plane is what it feels like four for 37 and that's not like in one game that's total since joining

26:33Andy Holloway:the team yeah he is like a half plays about half the snaps he's just not getting targets

26:40Mike Wright:So decision-wise on this roster, it's not that complicated. I feel comfortable with both running backs if I had to.

26:48Andy Holloway:Yeah, this seems on the Seattle side, you're saying both Walker and Charbonnet? Yeah, just gambling that you're going to get a touchdown from Charbs. Seems like it should be one of those weeks. And, you know, the Bijan performance last week, number one on the week,

27:04Mike Wright:you'll love to see it because it had been a little bit up and down. And they let him get a touchdown. They let him, yeah.

27:09Jason Moore:Yeah, he's very nice.

27:10Mike Wright:He actually, if he goes five or six games without one, he turns in a ticket. And then they let him redeem it for one goal line opportunity. And then Algier takes the rest of them. But Drake London, if he's active, if he's back in this game, I assume you go right back to him.

27:24Jason Moore:I would. It's a tough matchup. I'm hoping they don't play him this week. Just give him one more week to rest and have him come back in a better matchup.

27:35Mike Wright:Start of the week, Kyle Pitts. I know you guys reacted strongly, but I think it'll be fine.

27:42Andy Holloway:Process-wise, it makes sense. What's hard about Kyle Pitts is the process is just it doesn't matter to him. He doesn't care about our stats and when he's supposed to be good. He just is like, I'll be good once every six games or so. Yeah. I tried to pick him up to play him this week because I don't have George Kittle.

28:04Mike Wright:yeah no i mean it makes sense and i i'm not messing around with anybody else yeah like darnell mooney he's not done it kurt cousins is he's not i mean he's on the way out i mean it's it's quite clear the arm is not the same and that's changing a lot of the decisions he's throwing 20 out of 24 passes under 10 yards it's gross so there you go it's always a bummer to yeah i mean i the decline happily play Seattle's defense. Yep. Oh, yeah. Cincinnati 4-8, Buffalo 8-4. This is a huge game. Palindrome game. Huge game. I mean, we have Buffalo 5.5 point favorites. Over-under is 53.5. Nice. The line opened at 51.5, so it's gone up.

28:47Mike Wright:I think, maybe, based on that news today, we'll get T. Higgins back. If you're limited on Wednesday, there's a decent chance you could be cleared by Friday, and so that would be big for the Bengals.

28:58Andy Holloway:It was interesting news because like as of Tuesday it still felt very very negative that T Higgins was not going to be able to but let me do it on a Wednesday that should bring you some optimism so what are your start set challenges in this one Mike uh I don't know that there's really any challenges that because the Bengals are always easy it's everybody you know it doesn't matter about the matchup and then the the over on the bills josh allen and james cook of course and i i like dalton kinkade this i like don't kinkade in general but i really really like him this week should he get back and we just the wide receivers still have not provided us any value which is it's it still doesn't make sense that josh allen can do josh allen things without wide receivers.

29:53Mike Wright:Yeah, it's been... I mean, this game is pretty important to Buffalo too, right? Yes. Cincinnati needs it for their best shot at... I mean, I think there's a legitimate chance Cincinnati makes the playoffs. There is. I really, really do. I mean, they have... If they get through Buffalo, they control their destiny at home against Baltimore, right? You get to face your division, mate. Then you play Miami and Arizona. Okay. Then you play Cleveland. So, like, these next two weeks are going to determine everything, but if they win them both, I think they're going to make the playoffs.

30:24Andy Holloway:And I think their division record is quite good. Let me go double-check that. Yeah, I think they're 3-1 in the division. Yeah, I think they're the best record.

30:33Jason Moore:Thanks, Joe Flacco. Mike Thomas is not happy. I have seen some of the playoff estimators and the matchups, and it is realistic that the Bengals could make the playoffs. Even if they lose this game, they still could. in a somewhat realistic way.

30:50Mike Wright:Jason, Mike mentioned that Yoshibas was, you know, a backup option if Tee Higgins misses the game. With a high over-under like this, I don't mind you trying to get a piece of that at 53 and a half. I would understand it.

31:04Jason Moore:I was a little surprised to see that the over-under went from 51 to 53 and a half. There's, I mean, you could throw in snow, but there should be snow in this game. Very, very cold weather, 20 degrees. So, you know, I could see this turning into, you know, a James Cook fest slowdown game as well. So to me, Yoshivas, especially with Tinsley getting a bunch of targets last week, I'm not as excited, but obviously the game environment could end up becoming Josh Allen versus Joe Burrow. Whoever has the ball last wins the game because they just keep scoring. That's what the hope is.

31:45Mike Wright:And play Higgins if he's active. I would. For sure. Tennessee's 1-11. They take on the 3-9 Browns.

31:52Jason Moore:Oh yeah.

31:53Mike Wright:Who did Tennessee beat?

31:57Jason Moore:Yeah. Yeah, I know the answer. Our Arizona Cardinals.

32:03Mike Wright:There's a reason I'm wearing a Diamondbacks hat today. The Tennessee Titans 1-11 with an implied point total in this game of 14.5. Blarf. The Browns are four and a half point favorites. The over-under is 33 and a half.

32:17Jason Moore:Oh, blah. How low can you go?

32:20Mike Wright:Whew. Well, Tennessee is the number one pick right now. Cleveland the number five pick right now. All right. This is not great. There's only been – wait. The over-under is 33 and a half?

32:36Jason Moore:Yeah.

32:37Mike Wright:Wow.

32:38Jason Moore:Well, this is – so Cam Ward has looked better over the last month than he did the beginning of his career. But on the road with frigid temps against an unstoppable pass rush from the Cleveland Browns, I don't know how Tennessee can score. They're implied 14.5 points. Like how? How are they getting 14.5 points?

33:03Mike Wright:I'm playing the Cleveland defense, and then I benched all my other players. That's all I'm playing. Right. You guys said you had to set legal lineups yesterday. That's legal to me.

33:11Jason Moore:Right. It's illegal to have a full lineup and add this defense.

33:15Mike Wright:No, I mean, it's going to be good. Jason, your start of the week quench on Judkins. You should get on track here in this one. Shaduer Sanders is a winnable game, but I'm not going to play you, and I'm not going to play your wideouts. The only player I will consider on this team outside of Judkins is Fannin. I think Fannin is worth playing on pace for over 100 targets, had the big touchdown from him last week. I think I'm comfortable with Fannin. I don't know if you guys are in the same boat with the low over-under, but I am.

33:43Andy Holloway:I am uncomfortable with it, but I understand it.

33:49Jason Moore:Fannin is good, and he's a rookie. Basically, that's it. It's like, hey, a talented player at a position where you're struggling for options, I'm okay with it, but I'm not excited. I mean, obviously, like Brenton Strange, my start of the week, I would start over Fannin.

34:04Mike Wright:And this makes it really easy. Don't play any Titans. none correct don't play any of them don't play running backs don't play tight ends don't play

34:11Jason Moore:wide receivers don't play quarterbacks the only pretend the titans are on by the only player that you could play would be jim rey dk if you are in a return yards league that's it yeah they i love

34:25Andy Holloway:that that that dk gave us the uh the wide receiver 10 against seattle and i was like okay we've seen we've seen some flashes of life here you know three top 16 performances in five games his reward for those that had the courage

34:42Mike Wright:negative points I will say if you want to say something about the Titans talk Dynasty talk Gunner Helm Chica Conkle will be gone Gunner Helm is shown if you watch the tape looks pretty good to me has had four six and six receptions since the bye takes time for Titans to get going dynasty leagues he's worth rostering. The commanders are 3-9. The Vikings 4-8. People are going to go to that game. That other one?

35:10Andy Holloway:The Browns one? Yeah.

35:12Jason Moore:Thousands.

35:13Andy Holloway:People are going to spend money and their time. And they're going to go to that. I've got two words for them.

35:21Mike Wright:Hot toddies.

35:24Jason Moore:Hot toddies! Hot toddies! On a lot of them. Do you think they just serve those at every hot dog stand? Yeah, doubles. Just a hot toddy machine?

35:34Andy Holloway:It's going to be freezing. And this is just, it's mean. It's downright mean. It's not okay. That the NFL is allowing this to happen.

35:43Mike Wright:At least this is close to our, somebody called it the dung bowl. This is close to the battle, like in bad weather between the two worst teams. Like this is a fair punishment.

35:54Jason Moore:Yeah, why isn't it snowing heavily in this one? This is where the snow should go.

35:58Mike Wright:Yeah, move the snow to the worst teams. But I don't want to talk about this one anymore. Okay. The Commanders are 3-9, the Vikings 4-8, Minnesota 2.5-point favorites, the Over-Under's 42.5. I guess it's part of our job to be hyperbolic and overstate things and say something entertaining. I don't know how untrue this is. This might be your career, JJ, in a real way. this game this game and the and the following couple games but this one in particular if you're at home against Washington you want to be this is the game that decides if you're a career backup

36:38Jason Moore:or not I really think so well he couldn't ask for a better get right game well next week is Dallas well sure I mean I mean this combo here but the for the offense to be able to get moving right now, the Commanders, I mean, their defense has not shown up this season, and I don't even blame it on the Jaden Daniels injury and the offense putting them in bad situations. Mariota's looked good. Mariota's performed well, and I don't think that the team isn't giving effort. I don't know what it is because I feel like their defense was better last year, but on the course of the season, they're 28th against quarterbacks, 30th against running backs, 22nd against wide receivers, 28th against tight ends.

37:22Jason Moore:They are not a tough matchup. So, JJ, you're at home. You have to have a game that shows a flash. You're in a dome. You've got an easy defense. Do something. Do it. And throw the ball to Justin Jefferson.

37:40Andy Holloway:It's the Shia LaBeouf.

37:41Jason Moore:Yeah. Do it. Do it.

37:44Mike Wright:Throw the ball to Jefferson. Throw the ball to Addison. Hawkinson. Don't throw to him. he's actually been yeah he's actually been like six for 59 last week okay he had a just deep

37:55Jason Moore:reception 29 yard catch it was pretty good so all the jefferson questions like if you can't

38:02Mike Wright:if you can't play jefferson in this game you will never need there's never a time to play him again this season that's the real truth if you can't play him against the 31st ranked washington wide receiver defense at home with jj because they're not getting there's no cavalry there's no other quarterbacks showing up yeah this is like yes you play jj to me yeah he he's he's my new start of

38:24Jason Moore:the week you jefferson yes justin that's fine yeah i allow the pivot people need it justin jefferson absolutely should be started so like justin jefferson and michael wilson the guy i said i would be starting justin jefferson play i know he's only scoring like eight fantasy points a game in his starts with nine but this this is this is a good matchup justin jefferson's probably the best wide receiver in the National Football League. It will be a get-right situation.

38:52Mike Wright:Yeah, I just, man, man. He is 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10. Oh, he's got 10 interceptions, not 9. I thought 9 was maybe an interception nickname for McCarthy. Brosmer, okay. It was. You're the backup. Play your running backs, whoever's starting in Minnesota. Are you okay with that or not really?

39:18Andy Holloway:you should be. If Aaron Jones was limited on Wednesday, it makes sense to play them, but I would be terrified. If both are active. If Aaron Jones doesn't play, then you're like, okay, I get it. I can jam Jordan Mason in there at a flex spot.

39:39Mike Wright:You guys might disagree with me on this, but I am completely comfortable with Terry McLaurin in this game. I look at Marcus Mariota as kind of like Brissette light right now, where the production is going to be there. I mean, I think he's been over 210 passing yards in every one of his starts or close to it.

39:54Jason Moore:I mean, I have no problem with him in this game, and they may have some short fields. He's been very, very good, and I want to say against the Vikings defense, I mean, we saw them just shut down JSN completely for the first time all season, so it scares me a little bit. But what we saw last week was against a tough Denver defense, so he's okay to me.

40:19Mike Wright:You would start Chris Rodriguez if you had to start a commander running back? Yes. Yeah. That is one area of the Vikings 20th in the last six weeks. You guys remember Bill?

40:34Jason Moore:Man, I was running out of those Bill Krosky jokes, and he did me a solid. He's like, I got you. You're not going to need those anymore.

40:41Mike Wright:You should take that drop and slow it down and twist it up and make a sad version. It's, I'm just a bill. Yeah, it's not good. Debo, is he a flex play?

40:56Jason Moore:I would prefer not. He seemed pretty banged up during that last game. I don't know.

41:01Mike Wright:He's been top 36 three straight weeks with Mariota.

41:06Jason Moore:The defense freaks me out. I'd prefer to play McLaurin and not Debo.

41:10Mike Wright:Zach Ertz or Kyle Pitts? Zach Ertz last week, 13 targets, 10 catches.

41:15Jason Moore:Yeah, Ertz is way better than Kyle Pitts.

41:18Mike Wright:All right, we'll take a break. We'll get into some more matchups.

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43:20Mike Wright:or five i think year four imagine when he was drafted if i told you i go hey you're fine hey By the way, in four years from now, you're going to still think Zachary is better than him. That sentence wouldn't have been real. Miami's 5-7, still fighting. New York, the Jets, they still have a franchise. 3-9 at home. Miami favored by 2.5, over under 41.5. Here's more weird for you, Mike. We get these 33, 40, 41. Miami's won 4-5, guys. Four or five. Impressive. And they had lost like a bunch of one-score games. They could have beat the Chargers, right? They had a bunch of close games. They're really, it's a credit to their head coach.

44:07Andy Holloway:Sure. In my opinion. No, when things are bad, you know, we dunk on people. Yeah, they're not playing, I mean. Give him the accolades if he's performing.

44:17Mike Wright:Exactly. And the alternative is John Gannon. The Jets will start to Rod Taylor again, Brees Hall.

44:27Andy Holloway:referred to himself as a decoy?

44:28Mike Wright:He referred to himself as a decoy last week because the plan was to throw the ball a lot. Just call me decoy.

44:36Andy Holloway:But you could throw the ball to Brees. The transition of what this team was at the beginning of the year when they had the compliment, it was Brees Hall, it's Braylon Allen. Braylon Allen's the hammer. Brees is still getting work on the ground, but they're throwing to him a ton, four targets, three, six, six, five. And then Braylon Allen gets hurt and they're like, no, we don't throw it to Brees Hall anymore. It's so bizarre.

45:02Mike Wright:It just hasn't been like the Justin Fields. Like we hadn't seen Justin Fields or Terod Taylor really with Brees Hall and it just hasn't happened. They've been trying to really use Adonai Mitchell and John Mechie and some of these, you know, Mason Taylor. I don't get excited about playing a Jet right now, but I do think there's an opportunity.

45:23Andy Holloway:Yeah, and are you ping-ponging? Like, are you going, you know, two weeks ago it was Mechie. Last week, Adonai was the one who came through. They're being asked about a lot. I'm staying with Adonai. Adonai, okay.

45:37Mike Wright:Yeah, I'm staying with Adonai because I want touchdowns.

45:39Jason Moore:Yeah, you want the deep shot.

45:41Mike Wright:Yeah, they're going to take shots. 39 % target share.

45:44Jason Moore:Mechie is insane. I think his floor is maybe higher because easier connections, but Adonai Mitchell, he'll get some deep shots a la an Alec Pierce where you just connect on one of those and your fantasy day is way better.

45:57Mike Wright:Yeah, 100 yards last week. You're not going to get that with Mechie.

46:00Andy Holloway:Six, seven, 12 targets. Kyle wants everyone to know that Meowson Taylor still hasn't forced a missed tackle. He tracks it very closely. I mean, how have you not forced a missed tackle yet?

46:14Mike Wright:I don't know, Mike. Yeah, you do.

46:16Andy Holloway:Meow.

46:19Mike Wright:that's on 39 catches 39 catches make something happen i don't know man i don't know kyle find us let me know if other tight ends are in the same boat or if he if he really is uh standing alone oh that would be real fun i would like to know that's your job for the rest of the show al's busy making lightning effects and your job is to figure out if meowson taylor is a lone kitty cat or not on the other side Devon Achan is a machine I brought up Ollie Gordon as a backup option because the matchup is so good I do think they'll give him work he is a great compliment he had nine carries two weeks ago he only had three this past week it was a tighter game if they have a real back and forth affair maybe he'll get out there Jalen Waddell I've been a little bummed out

47:07Andy Holloway:he is worth a discussion because the target share is there but this is turned the team has transformed like the McDaniel to a Tyreek everything is high flying that doesn't seem to be the path forward anymore so while Jalen Waddle is alone and consuming most of the pie the pie has really shrunk and then he hasn't made the most of his opportunities whether

47:32Mike Wright:that's to his fault or not he had three great weeks um kind of post Tyreek injury but his catch

47:39Jason Moore:rate the last two weeks 43 and 50 percent yeah it's been disappointing i'm still going to be starting waddle every week uh this matchup is not a great one for him the the jets while their defense is not great you run on the jets they're top five against wide receivers when you adjust for the schedule so uh waddle is in a slightly tough situation here but the 33 target share that's what i am targeting is i want guys who are getting the ball thrown their way uh let's go

48:09Mike Wright:directly to our kitty cat reporter uh kyle kyle what do you what is the report on mason taylor's

48:14Andy Holloway:breaking tackle situation meow all right so so the report is he is alone above 20 receptions with no forced missed tackles correct is that your way of telling me zach ertz has broken a tackle

48:29Mike Wright:yes oh my goodness wow yeah they said it couldn't be done so this is not a this is not a bit this is accurate all the analysis all the bits are accurate yeah those are the best bits really

48:41Andy Holloway:so all other tight ends who have not forced a missed tackle have fewer than 20 receptions and he's at 30 he's at nearly 40 maybe he's just not into that oh i know he's not

48:54Mike Wright:uh darren waller is the play of the day for me at the in this entire game he's the most exciting for me because this is a position of great need and fantasy. He was out there running routes in his first game back, and you're going to get more acclimated. The matchup on the year, it's good against the Jets, not in recent weeks, but I don't care. I'm going to play Darren Waller. Yeah, I'm with you. The New Orleans Saints. Let's just keep talking about teams that the Patriots have beaten. All right, the Saints are 2-10.

49:25Andy Holloway:I don't know, man. It's turning to dunk on the Patriots. I don't know.

49:28Mike Wright:The number one team in the AFC? I don't know, dude. I vacillate between my love of Drake May and Mike Rabel and my hatred of the dynastic success of the Patriots for so many years where I'm like, let somebody else have something. Yep. And now they're back atop the division. I don't care, man. The Saints are 2-10. The Buccaneers are 7-5. Tampa Bay, 8.5-point favorites. They need this one. The over-under is 42.5. half this is the largest spread of week 14 eight and a half points tampa bay beat them 23 to 3 in week eight tyler chuck has been playing well i think it is he has it will be a really bad situation though for them if chris olave misses this game he is so much of a go-to guy win needed mind you he did cost them the entire game last week but also they wouldn't have been there without him yeah but he switched it he's had 10 plus fantasy points in six or seven weeks if he if he's active are you right back to him yeah he can make it through the back injury I mean he was my

50:28Jason Moore:start of the week uh prior to the injury uh I like the matchup I like what I've been seeing with Shuck he has been much much better and the matchup is pretty good I mean they're going to have to

50:38Andy Holloway:throw the ball now if if Olave doesn't play Vele I think even if Olave plays Vele is at least interesting of we really have you know I think we have what four games of Shuck we have three games of actual full-time Devon Vele for the New Orleans Saints. It was the week before the bye that he jumped from being like a mid-20 % of the snaps type of a play, 30%, all the way up to 87%. And that's where he has stayed. He is a full-time player. And now back-to-back weeks, seven targets against Atlanta. Didn't turn into production, but we at least saw some signs of life. And then he caught all eight of his targets against Miami.

51:19Mike Wright:Let's have a little fun with Tyler Schuch for the people out there. We haven't got to talk about him much this year. He's got his opportunity. I want you to guess some numbers for me. Just looking at his last three games, if you project it over a season, first of all, blowing away the Caleb Williams completion percentage. Oh, for sure. Do you know where he's at? It's a nice number.

51:38Jason Moore:I think he's so – I was going to say about 70, 69%.

51:42Mike Wright:69%. He's on pace for, again, three-game sample, 4 ,300 yards, 23 touchdowns. Yeah, we're cutting out the – 11 picks. Cutting out his first start. No, I think that's fine. I think that's appropriate to cut out the first start. Mind you, it was against Tampa, which he plays this week. But, yeah, I mean, you need to. You've never taken a snap in the NFL. I think you look at where you're trending, and I'm just throwing it out there. He's on pace for a solid season, a starter-worthy season.

52:08Jason Moore:Yeah. Certainly a better season than Cam Ward, statistically. Yeah. Cam Ward, I think, is on pace for 10 touchdowns, which would be, like, the lowest ever or something.

52:20Mike Wright:I mean, yeah. Is that true? Well, he has seven right now, and he's playing every week. So the math checks out. Also, same amount of interceptions.

52:30Jason Moore:Yeah, on pace for 10 passing touchdowns. Fewest passing touchdowns for a quarterback to start all 17 games would be Trevor Lawrence, who got to 12.

52:40Mike Wright:And I just don't know how to feel about the Cam Ward situation overall. Because if you told me that you get Olave and Juwan Johnson and Bailey and Kamara for your team, or you get Chimray, DK, and Io Manor as your starters.

52:56Jason Moore:He had Ridley for the first half of the year.

53:00Mike Wright:Ridley missed quite a bit of time. And he just wasn't good. Yeah. I mean, a lot falls at his feet. I'm just saying he, yeah. So it is what it is. Tampa Bay, they should be able to handle business. Bucky Irving, it was great to see. They went right to him. There was no limiting of the touches. 19 running back touches, 5 for White, 2 for Tucker. Emeka Ibuka, is he a must-start anymore?

53:27Jason Moore:Ooh, Jason. Emeka Ibuka. I don't think he is a must-start guy every week. Ibuka Wilson. Let's play the name game. Brian Thomas Jr. or Emeka Ibuka. Oh, man, that was dirty.

53:47Mike Wright:I'm playing a book in that situation I don't think you're going to see Evans or McMillan this week in which case

53:53Andy Holloway:I'm going to take the targets a book or Terry

53:58Jason Moore:Andy well Andy said he was the Terry guy I know a book

54:03Andy Holloway:a book or Devante Smith against the Chargers

54:14Mike Wright:jason davante smith all right yeah i mean this it does feel like kind of uh we need it we need a

54:21Jason Moore:game i mean we have seven his last seven games he's had one where he scored 10 points he's had one where he scored eight points like it and he's on pace for 153 targets in that stretch it's really confusing it is confusing it's and he had the hamstring injury and everything has happened

54:38Mike Wright:since the hamstring injury, so I just get a little, like, are we fools?

54:42Jason Moore:We're not. Look, here's the truth. Egbuka is awesome. Yes. He is a great wide receiver. He is an unbelievable route runner, has great hands. He's in a very tough stretch right now. He has 791 receiving yards already. Yeah.

54:57Mike Wright:But it's a tough run. But that's where I'm going. I'm okay. I'm okay with it. I'm a little nervous, but I'm okay with it. you talked about Devin Neal Mike at running back on the other side I forgot to mention him on the way down

55:11Andy Holloway:the opportunities will be there

55:13Mike Wright:Jawan Johnson it's a dart throw at tight end and one that I'll probably take with another player this week that was Fantasy Forecast presented by PrizePix join millions of users and sign up for America's number one fantasy sports app use the code footballers and get$50 in lineups when you play$5 alright more matchups tomorrow in the fantasy face off the wheel of shame

55:39Mike Wright:yeah that's me two tiebreakers two tiebreakers you had your chances I did and I think I'll let Mike in the show with his favorite drop of the day as we get ready for Thursday Night Football but we will catch you on tomorrow's episode don't forget jointhefoot.com for the ultimate dashboard get ready for the week the advance starts at 2 and more go ahead Mike Isaac

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