Fantasy Football - Stat Surprises + Sneaky Trades, Rice Reactions - Podcast for 5/21

14:17Mike Wright:Guess who's back? Rashi Rice violated his probation by testing positive for marijuana. He has been ordered to serve 30 days in jail, which he was already going to have to serve.

14:31Andy Holloway:So that is a point of clarification that we can share for people that we

14:34Mike Wright:have that wasn't new like he basically what happened was is he had been ordered through his last legal trouble situation the the freeway incident the freeway incident he was ordered to serve 30 days in jail but he had the he had optionality as to when he would serve those 30 days by violating his probation because his probation stipulated no illegal substances and in texas in texas it's an illegal substance so he had to follow one rule he couldn't do it And so the judge basically said, well, guess what? You go. Yeah. Right to jail. You go serve your 30 days right now. We also found out he is recovering from a cleanup surgery on his right knee that he just had.

15:15Andy Holloway:Yeah.

15:16Mike Wright:So he'll be recovering in jail. Yeah. He'll be rehabbing in jail and missing all the practice time with the team.

15:22Andy Holloway:Does he get like conjugals from doctors? What? He's got to be rehabbing. That's not what they'd call them, Mike.

15:31Mike Wright:And I don't know if you know what that means. I sure hope not. I hope you don't know what that means. Oh. And no.

15:43Mike Wright:It's going to be a good show.

15:44Andy Holloway:Maybe he's close with some PTs.

15:46Mike Wright:That's too close. Matthew Betts, our injury expert, talked about the fact we knew that in 2024 he had the season-ending knee injury, the LCL hamstring and PCL, right? And this surgery, I guess, is to remove loose debris. It's a concern for, according to Betts, a cartilage injury, which can be common with the previous one he suffered. So legal, medical, and really – And mental.

16:10Jason Moore:And decision-making. Yeah, I mean, it's just he is – he's not someone that you want to rely on. Also, contract. Now, for this season, we'll find out if a suspension comes from this. The NFL already looked in, said they weren't going to previously suspend him, but now there is new information, violating the parole. He could end up missing games. We'll find out as we come along. However, I think that he will still be good for fantasy this year. I have him on our main dynasty league. Is that why you think that?

16:38Mike Wright:No, no, no, no, no.

16:39Jason Moore:I cannot wait until he is scoring a lot of fantasy points in week five or week six, and I am going to do everything in my power to move on. I don't want from a dynasty. Because you want the next shoe to drop? Exactly. You know, it's not like he can't get out of jail and make another decision that is worse, you know, and then they go and then he has a longer stint. He is so fragile, has no contract for next year, is team dependent. I think if he goes and signs somewhere else and isn't with the Andy Reid, Patrick Mahomes thing, I don't know that his skill set just applies to every team. So from a dynasty perspective, I'm terrified.

17:21Jason Moore:From a redraft perspective, this is not good, but I still think he'll be very valuable.

17:27Andy Holloway:We'll see, because the Shield, they don't like when players show up in the news like this. Even though it was not an additional punishment for Rice, this is now just flaring it up again.

17:40Mike Wright:What is this, four different incidents? I mean, even though he didn't get punished for the last one that got dropped or whatever, he's still in the news for something off the field. and it's disappointing and frustrating. Yeah, I mean, I was, like, he was ranked very high. I took a couple games off just as kind of a hedge against the risk of the next decision and the fact he could get a suspension for a game. He could get it for two games. He could be dealing with this medical injury, you know, where it slows him down. I had been trying to trade for him in redraft in our league of record. And thank goodness these two gentlemen to the left of me weren't willing to take a tradeoff or even send a counter because they could have been out of Rasheed Rice for big money that I would never pay now.

18:23Mike Wright:But, yeah, there's your Rasheed Rice update of the day, and I hope we don't have to keep giving them.

18:28Andy Holloway:Well, yeah, I mean, just like touchdowns only would be great. Cam Scadaboo. Yeah.

18:34Mike Wright:He'll be ready to play in week one according to Cam Scadaboo. I mean, he's funny. I mean, Jackson Dahr did come out and make a comment about the offense being run first. that's one of the things we talk about in the udk about jackson dart when we were debating the merits of him as a breakout candidate that's how i saw this offense that's why with harbaugh taking over versus dable that's my one little cautionary worry about this jackson dart how do you protect protect jackson dart from himself some a little bit like you you do run the football and

19:09Jason Moore:the ball off to scadaboo his quote was we're going to keep giving it to scadaboo until they can stop it, which last year people couldn't stop it.

19:18Mike Wright:So it's just interesting to see what that offense is going to look like in New York because they're probably not starting the year with a healthy Malik neighbors. They lost Wandale. They brought in Isaiah Likely, and then Cam Scadaboo seems like he's on the way back. Well, I mean, he said he was going to get 2 ,000 rushing yards this year. He did. But he did some, he did like fantasy football math on that. He's like, I got 400 yards on

19:40Andy Holloway:100. Did he do a 17 game projection? He did. Cam, all right. I mean, we got to call into the show. Give us some analysis.

19:49Mike Wright:You may have a chance to chat with him soon. Tua Tungavailoa and Michael Penix splitting first team reps just like you want your quarterback position to do. Hmm. Alright, who wins? Call it now. Week one.

20:02Jason Moore:Tua. Mike? Week one, Tua.

20:08Andy Holloway:Penix. Cool. Alright, let's move on.

20:12Jason Moore:I don't want to answer that question. That's brutal.

20:14Andy Holloway:I could have said two and you wouldn't have to, but I said Penix, so you have to answer it now. Then I will say, I think Tua wins.

20:24Jason Moore:I think he's the better quarterback.

20:26Mike Wright:All right, we'll take a break and come back with some mailbag. Man, yeah. Haves and have-nots in the quarterback area, right? The story of the NFL. Back in a moment.

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23:06Jason Moore:Mailbag.

23:11Mike Wright:All right. We are into the mailbag answering your questions. Looks like we got a voicemail question to start us off. If you want to send your question into the show, you can go to the website, the fantasy footballers.com. Click the submit a question button. Or you can dial our voicemail hotline, 302-464-TFFB. Let's kick it off.

23:33Andy Holloway:What's up, ballers? I was wondering if it has ever come up for you guys or what your opinion is on creating AI fake news posts about players and posting them in league chats to tank people's perceptions and values on the player in order to trade for them. Not saying I do this, but it has come up. I'd love to hear what you guys think. Thanks.

23:57Jason Moore:A whole new world. So. The first half is this. It's a whole new because we've had Photoshop.

24:04Andy Holloway:We've had, there's ways that you can, you know, like just on your screen, edit a website and their headlines. That has been done several times. To great joy. By us. But it's always so far out of the realm of possibility that you don't, It's not like so-and-so sprains ankle out four to six weeks. You're like, you can't. No, that's full bush. You can't do that.

24:31Mike Wright:Yeah, that's on the same level of like a player tears his ACL and then the next day you're like trying to trade him and make sure the other person doesn't know it happened. Like, it's funny.

24:42Jason Moore:This would be worse than that. You are making up the lies. So have fun with your AI and your fake stuff. Oh, abducted by aliens. Let it be fun because that can be enjoyable.

24:55Mike Wright:I mean, over the years we have joked that we should make an alternate podcast that gives the opposite advice that you could give to your friends. Yeah. But no, fake news, as funny as that might be, I don't think we're in on that. As long as it's funny. It has to be satire. Yeah.

25:14Andy Holloway:Not just sort of might be real. Entertainment purposes only. Yes.

25:19Mike Wright:we got an Instagram question what is the sneakiest trade that you have done or influenced to benefit yourself well I know mine

25:28Jason Moore:I got two trades one awesome one terrible the ridiculous one I didn't make with you Andy for Saquon and two firsts but sneaky I traded a guy for a fifth round pick in our league of record you know the one And it was, there was some news.

25:49Andy Holloway:Lay out some news.

25:50Jason Moore:There was some news coming out about maybe this player. This was over a decade ago, right? It was a while ago. But Aaron Hernandez. Oh, my gosh. Might or might not have killed someone. We don't know. The news was looking bad. He might get arrested. And everybody saw this news. This wasn't me pulling something over the wool on someone's eyes. But I was like, I'm out. I'll take anything. and I traded him for a fifth and I think it was like the next day he was just arrested and never got out of jail again. That was sneaky.

26:27Mike Wright:There are ripcord moments. I did it last year with Joe Mixon in the offseason. That's a good one. That's a great example. That one was the worst. I got a sixth and it felt bad because he was a keeper. But when the bread trail starts and you I saw where it was going. Those were full slices of bread. The witch, Hansel and Gretel are about to get cooked. I still feel bad. That was my former co-manager that just took over a new team. Oh, man. And now I tried to trade with him this offseason. I tried to trade with him this offseason. He's like, mm-mm. No. He's like, no. He's like, no, not after what you did to me with Mixon.

27:07Mike Wright:I'm like, I didn't know. You did that to yourself. I didn't know. I didn't get a first. I got a sixth.

27:12Andy Holloway:but it was better than what mixing put up which was nothing i mean they're trading guys who

27:18Jason Moore:after you trade them never do another thing feels pretty good and bad good and bad i look

27:25Mike Wright:the sneakiest thing that ever happened was in this office oh yeah i mean between these two gentlemen yeah i mean you've got and and already al borland's pointing at papa josh as though he's not involved but i i mean that those of you that have been around for a while you'll remember those that are new let me introduce you to the story i came up with a three-way trade for jamar chase in the middle of the season and i went through and i you know dotted my i's and crossed my t's and like i got it to where it was just perfect for all three parties right and i introduced it to these guys and we're all talking about it and somewhere along the way after i came up with the complicated framework of a three-team trade, which is very hard to do.

28:14Mike Wright:One of these guys whispers to the other, let's just cut Andy out of the whole deal. And they did.

28:21Andy Holloway:And I saw that trade go through. Wouldn't that make your part of the trade truly indispensable or dispensable? It was like you weren't needed. What do you remember? That's what they decided.

28:34Mike Wright:Bingo.

28:34Andy Holloway:Do you even remember what the trade originally was?

28:39Mike Wright:No, Mike. All I remember is how mad I was when the trade went through. And I thought the trade went through. I got the alert in Sleeper. And I was certain it was the trade that was in Sleeper that we were all. You were excited to see your trade. Because on a three-way trade, you have to each, all three parties have to. And two of us had already hit the button on yes. So you see the alert. And I'm like, I see the names. I see Chase.

29:03Andy Holloway:and I'm like, I got him. Yeah, that's based off of your other Jamar Chase trade. It would have been you get Jamar Chase and you trade away nothing. And then.

29:12Mike Wright:No, no, don't poison the well of this trade with my other exploits, okay? My other exploits were ridiculous.

29:20Jason Moore:Speaking of other exploits, I thought what you were going to say is the sneakiest is way back in the day when you shared news with Mike.

29:28Andy Holloway:Yeah, when I undercut him.

29:29Jason Moore:That you were getting, was it Calvin Johnson or someone?

29:32Mike Wright:Yeah, bro. Bro, that was Mike's worst.

29:35Jason Moore:And then he trades for him.

29:36Mike Wright:He's like, oh, he's available? I tell Mike I have a trade for Calvin Johnson. I was like, I don't want to tell you this, but I'm going to tell you it. And we were at a flag football game, and I go home.

29:46Andy Holloway:I was not interested at Calvin Johnson.

29:48Mike Wright:No, and I'm just sharing with my buddy the trade I'm about to make. And I go home, and Calvin's traded to Mike.

29:55Andy Holloway:Many, many hours later. Same night. I'm just saying, you had your chance to close the deal, and then I'm like, oh, hogwash. And I was like, this would be pretty funny. And it was not funny. It was not funny. It also ruined my season.

30:12Mike Wright:Yeah, that's for the best. And theirs. And theirs. Their season, too. I won the title that year. So eat it. I'm still mad about it. Kyron Williams question from C. James. What's up, ballers? Am I a fool for being scared about Kyron this year? He has been the consistency king. we have actually talked through this amongst ourselves recently you're not a fool for I don't

30:36Andy Holloway:think you're a fool for feeling scared having I to be scared of Kyron I don't think you need to be that far but to nervous to have some concern about what really happened in terms of the percent of running back attempts for Kyron at the beginning of the year there was a clear shift where his was going down and Corum was going up and Corum was playing well it wasn't like they're trying out their third round pick and he's out there failing he was he was producing for the Rams so I don't I'm not completely scared away from drafting Kyron but it is the timeshare is more real and

31:13Jason Moore:there is a chance that it becomes even closer this year and I I see the fact that Blake Corum was good, was more involved in the second half of last year. However, Kyron is their primary starter. He is going to play the majority of snaps. I do not believe this will be 50-50. And if you look back at the end of last year, where the timeshare was more shared, just the last 10 games after that bye week, Kyron Williams' pace was 1 ,300 yards and 13 touchdowns, plus the passing work. Like, Coram doing well didn't mean – that did not equal Kyron not doing well. Kyron's a really good player that they have paid a lot of money to be their starter.

32:00Mike Wright:I would just say that – I mean, it is a math equation, though. Like, if you do have lower opportunity, you have to have more efficiency. That's what we saw during that stretch. I mean, Mike the other day pointed out the change in opportunities or in terms of, like, what was it, snap percentage? Yeah, it was the running back attempts. Running back attempts. It changed quite a bit, but Kyron became more efficient in that span. He was actually low efficiency before the changeover happened. It does require that to maintain itself or touchdowns to go way up because Adams is not getting as many. There's a number of ways more involvement in the passing game.

32:33Mike Wright:There are ways you can turn the dials to where, okay, I don't get as many rushing attempts, but I'm still as successful for fantasy. But it is something to watch. I'd rather, I'll say this, I'd rather have an offseason where there aren't rumors that my starting running back could be in a 50-50 timeshare. You don't have to believe the rumors. I like situations where they're impossible to be made. That's not one of them. Counter-argument.

32:56Jason Moore:I really like when I get value when dumb rumors say that there's going to be a timeshare, and he drops to the third round, and then it's like, oh, I've just got a guy that's a top 10 running back again, double-digit touchdowns again, on the best or one of the best offenses in the league.

33:09Andy Holloway:The first two years of Kyron, it was a 37 % and a 38 % workhorse as in so the percent of teams, you know, targets and running back attempts. That dropped to 30 % in this past year. So an 8 % drop. 30 is still fantastic.

33:27Mike Wright:Snap percentage from 87 to 68.

33:29Andy Holloway:I care more about the work is 30%. If he stayed there, then Kyron will be – he'll crush at where his ADP is. But if that dips down into the mid-20s, all of a sudden it's not looking so great.

33:46Mike Wright:Kyron right now is the RB 15 in terms of the risk is there.

33:53Andy Holloway:All right. Or isn't it's like it's baked into the 80.

33:56Mike Wright:Yeah. I mean, but to answer the question, I don't think you're a fool for feeling nervous about how it's going to shake out, but scared is an overplay. They'll be scared. Just right. Having, you know, pay attention to it. It's tough. Cause you don't really want to, you don't really recommend in those situations, go out and get Blake Corum because what happens is, is the worst case scenario here isn't really you know like you're gonna have to pay more for quorum than you would a normal hand handcuff type of back right right so yeah quorum might be just

34:26Andy Holloway:playable this year but so to that point you can't really go out and have both because then you could

34:31Mike Wright:get in a situation where you just don't know which one to start or you would never start both on the same week it's it's a little weird i remember seattle had running back rooms with carson and penny and those guys that it was in that boat where it was tough um so just something to be aware of ben writes in dynasty follow-up question would you prefer bucky irving or kyron williams in a dynasty dynasty i mean bucky is what 22 or something so kyron will be turning 26 this year

34:58Andy Holloway:he's 23 and bucky will turn 24 so the age is not terribly different you know the the running back kind of cliff that we talk about of when they're 27 this is kind of the peak value you'll be able to get they may have a couple more years of of production but if you're going to get out that's kind of when you got to do it i i think i'd take i'm going to take kyron there i think i am as well

35:26Jason Moore:i know i'm the kyron apologist but he's got three years left on his contract they could technically get out after two but that's enough time where you're going to have a real valuable piece i'm just looking Kyron sitting at I've got Bucky quite a bit higher in dynasty yeah our consensus

35:46Andy Holloway:startups have Bucky higher yeah but I'm actually I'm moving that right now because having just

35:51Mike Wright:thought about it I'd take Kyron yeah it's window versus you know potential I think I think you could definitely end up in a situation where when this season's over I think it'll be a very clear decision let me put it that way right now it seems murky i think and i'm not saying i know which answer it will be but i think when this season ends it will be obvious because either kyron's going to continue doing what he's been doing and you're gonna have four years of it or bucky's going to step up into the role or bucky's going to fade away right and i think that's the general fear because you asked this question at the beginning of last year it's bucky easy for everybody so um that's an interesting one so a good question there been instagram question from Matty Wills.

36:36Mike Wright:Full PPR question. Is James Cook or CeeDee Lamb a better keeper in a full PPR? So,

36:45Andy Holloway:33 receptions for Cook this past year. 32 the year before. So, I mean, with Brady at the offense, that's probably right on target, you know, mid-30s. I think the PPR would...

37:04Andy Holloway:PPR, I'm going to take CD.

37:06Jason Moore:I mean, being a keeper, I think a keeper league, not a dynasty. I view this as basically which player would you draft first? If you're on the clock in a mock draft, are you taking James Cook or CD Lamb first? Right. That's that's the only thing that matters. I don't want people to get too caught up with age or position in a keeper league. I'm just thinking of this year. Yeah. So this year, which one are you taking first? in the ppr i think i would stick with cd i do lean that way as well i mean that i always love having

37:36Mike Wright:a stalwart number one running back i mean if you ask this question throw some other names in there for cook where does the line get drawn because cook's probably around six in our rankings like

37:46Andy Holloway:if it's gentier cd this year who do you take cd cd if it's jonathan taylor cd this year jonathan

37:52Mike Wright:Taylor. Jonathan. CMC?

37:54Andy Holloway:Yeah. I'll take McCaffrey.

37:56Jason Moore:That one's tough because I view McCaffrey and James Cook very similarly. I think Cook is...

38:02Andy Holloway:Devon Achan or Seedy? Seedy. I'll go... See, I'd take Achan there. I'd take Achan there. Cook is my line. He's my running back six and I'd take the five other running backs before him.

38:11Mike Wright:Okay. Yeah, that makes sense. That's an interesting one. YouTube question from Brant. Why wouldn't Bo Nix and Jalen Waddle be a top five stack? Why wouldn't?

38:21Jason Moore:Well, if Jalen Waddell finishes as, say, the wide receiver 24, which is in his range of outcomes, not a bad year but not great, then you're not a top five stack. To be one of the best stacks, you need the wide receiver to be top 12.

38:35Mike Wright:Yeah.

38:36Jason Moore:I mean, that's the only reason.

38:37Mike Wright:Best stacks in football right now, Burrow and Chase. For sure. Stafford Puka.

38:41Jason Moore:Mm-hmm.

38:42Mike Wright:Jason. Drake May and maybe eventually A.J. Brown. That will be one of the best. Hurts and Devontae Smith. Goff and Amon Ra Dak and Seedy or Dak and Pickens

38:53Jason Moore:yeah Dak and either what you're naming there is I think Dak, Seedy, Jamar, Burrow are my two favorites the wide receivers are absolute alphas and so for yeah do you believe that about Waddle I don't I think he'll be the number one wide receiver for his team it's just wild because like

39:14Mike Wright:what he can do yeah I mean he's been the wide receiver seven but that was a long time ago I don't look at him through that lens of primary alpha either I do have Bonex higher than I expected because of Jalen Waddle but not as a like I'm targeting that stack Sam wants to know our thoughts on three wide receiver leagues it's great

39:39Jason Moore:I think more depth whenever there's more players that you have to play it becomes I think more fun. Obviously there's a limit to that where you're playing scraps and garbage but a three wide receiver league is great. I think that if you're in a super flex league you have to have three wide receivers. That really helps balance it out. It makes more decision making and it can't you know the quarterbacks in a super flex league are usually a little bit overpowered and so having more depth required to start at wide receiver means if you didn't go the quarterback

40:15Mike Wright:route you have more optionality but I love three three wide yeah I would say that when we did our mock draft episode on Tuesday what jumped out is the the running back cliff and then how many totally fine wide receivers were sitting there that I I when I looked back at the draft I said man I wish wish I had taken a running back there because I would have been totally fine with this

40:33Jason Moore:guy here which i will say that was the only thought that crossed my mind because i'm i i took cd over james cook in that question a moment ago but it did cross my mind where it's like there is more depth of wide receiver later in the draft so if you want to you know if you're more comfortable grabbing late wide receivers versus late running backs grabbing the running

40:55Mike Wright:back in the first is the way you get there blaze writes in from new york blaze when you guys When you guys talk about Ted Hurst, I immediately think of Fred Durst.

41:07Andy Holloway:Yeah.

41:08Mike Wright:Could that be a good nickname on this show?

41:11Andy Holloway:It's 1999.

41:13Mike Wright:I'm sure we can get a drop figured out. Here's what's important to me is I'm looking at this picture. Sleep Biscuit. I'm looking at this picture.

41:19Andy Holloway:You're telling me I get to do like Fred Durst impressions? This is what I'm getting at.

41:22Mike Wright:Yeah, I'm looking at this picture of Fred Durst, and I'm already seeing Halloween from one of you guys. Oh, man. From one of you guys, the red hat. if Mike makes that sound effect when we say Ted

41:34Jason Moore:when we bring up Ted Hurst I wish it didn't sound like an insult to nickname him Limp Bizkit but I'm gonna be honest it does

41:47Andy Holloway:you know because we're gonna run into here comes Limp

41:52Jason Moore:there's a warning many ways I can go wrong

41:57Mike Wright:I'm talking like Fred Durst will never be wrong. We'll take it under consideration Blaze. I almost got a spit dig from Jason. The water was not in my mouth yet. I don't know how we don't have Fred Durst on the back wall yet. I'm really disappointed. We'll take a break and see if we can remedy that. More questions after this.

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44:02Mike Wright:Welcome back to the fantasy footballers. We're in the mailbag. More questions. Maybe more nickname recommendations. We'll see. YouTube question from Dresden keeper league. We keep one rookie every year. Would you keep Scadaboo? or Emeka Igbigbu? Hmm.

44:27Jason Moore:Emeka Igbigbu. I'd keep a Buka. I've got both of them around 15 in their position,

44:37Jason Moore:but one of them is not coming off of a bad injury. So I'd go a Buka as well.

44:46Jason Moore:Ted Hurst himself.

44:47Mike Wright:Ted Hurst has appeared on the back wall. For those listening at home, he does bear a striking resemblance to Fred Durst I'll keep workshopping this one guys I just you know when you think of Fred Durst what is like the first

45:07Mike Wright:what is the first like actual memory you have of Fred yeah because I cannot like there was some school dance I went to where I remember walking in get him off the screen it's too much I remember walking into this school dance, and Limbiscuit was playing on the speakers.

45:25Andy Holloway:My first was Faith from$6 bill, y 'all.

45:31Mike Wright:Okay, this is the key. Ted Hurst is screwed. Oh, my goodness. Jason, you love Ted Hurst. Yeah, I'm a fan. Yeah.

45:44Andy Holloway:Don't worry. I'm going to fire that record up tonight, and I'll have some more for you later.

45:51Mike Wright:Nathan writes in, where would you rank Luther Burden if he was in this year's rookie draft? Great question. It's going to be the first round. It's going to be very high. Burden or Lemon at five?

46:06Jason Moore:I would go Lemon. And maybe you wouldn't. Concepcion is the one where I feel like.

46:12Mike Wright:I would take Burden above Lemon. You would? Yeah, that would be my line right there. Yeah. So 104? I'd take Tate and Tyson ahead of him, and I would take him at four.

46:25Andy Holloway:I think I would. But again, I don't have him ranked at 30. I would, as of right now, I would take him at the 104. But I do see a world where you'd be like, well, I should have traded the 102 for Luther Burden. I am very hot and bothered by Mr. Luther.

46:45Mike Wright:You are. Yeah, and it'll be very interesting. I mean, there are a lot of weapons, but we don't have a problem with that in Detroit. We don't have a problem with that on the Rams. So if you believe what you said about their offense being as good as it could be, no more DJ Moore, there's room. I think there's room.

47:06Andy Holloway:I'm sure the Venn diagrams of Rome truthers and Luther doubters is a perfect circle because you're just holding on to your Roma Dunes

47:18Mike Wright:like if you don't if you have Burden at 30 and I'm not I'm not picking on that that's fine your ranking is fine Rome better be well no I was going to say Rome better be super high or Loveland has to be super high you have to have a couple of these if you think their office is going to be great that would be like you know going to Cincinnati and saying I got Higgins and Chase low like you can't have a good offense without a huge fantasy production I have Mr.

47:41Jason Moore:Loveland very high and I've got I've got Rome ahead of Burden that's just how the chips fell for me when I was looking at the games played I realized later in the season when they were they were a little bit closer together but I mean if anyone says they know for sure who's going to have more targets between Rome and Burden you're you're lying you don't know the future and it could go either way but I would say to just push back a little bit on the I do think the Bears offense is going to be very good, but you compared them to the Lions. We don't have a problem with that with the Lions.

48:15Mike Wright:Well, it was a step forward comment. They're only a step forward for them. They were the sixth best offense last year.

48:20Jason Moore:But I'm just saying Jared Goff has thrown 4 ,400 yards, 4 ,500 yards, 4 ,600 yards, 4 ,500 yards the last four years. If Caleb can take that leap up to 4 ,500 yards, oh my gosh, Luther Burden's going to be amazing. 63%. Yes. So, I mean, a few hundred yards. That is part of the issue for me is just how big a step forward can Caleb Williams take?

48:46Mike Wright:If you only look at the games where he threw for a million yards and you project them over the year, he throws for a billion yards. That's a man.

48:55Jason Moore:That's some good analysis. What did he what did Caleb Williams throw last year?

48:59Andy Holloway:It was thirty nine. It was 94 or something like that. He just wanted to. It was the it was the you remember when Devante Adams had never had a thousand yards. Yeah. And you're like, because he had 990-something. Oh, I loved it when he hadn't, too.

49:12Mike Wright:I'd rub that in every week. Braden, Chase Brown or Hampton? They're back-to-back in our consensus rankings. You're on the clock. You've got to pull the trigger, Jason. Hampton, Chase Brown.

49:24Jason Moore:Why'd you say Jason?

49:26Mike Wright:I don't know. I'll tell you this. Only one of us has Chase Brown higher, and it isn't me or you.

49:33Andy Holloway:Yeah, this is an easy question for me. I'll take Chase Brown.

49:36Jason Moore:I love both these guys. but I would go Hampton. I think... They also went back-to-back in our mock draft. They are two of my favorite targets where they're going. Like, Hampton could have, like, a Chase Brown season.

49:49Andy Holloway:If we're lucky. Yeah. Can Chase Brown have another Chase Brown season? He's had two.

49:56Mike Wright:Or one and a half, if you want to call it that. Yeah. Safest wide receiver that you would take in round three to be your wide receiver one? So these are always fun questions, I think. This one's from Azurb. Azurb? was that the name Azurb

50:12Mike Wright:some sleeper ADP wide receivers going in that range Pickens, Olave Rice, Brown, Higgins Tet I think the bigger question there I don't have a problem with Tet as my one I don't have a problem with Pickens as my one I think I get nervous about Olave you really do so you're going to go McMillan over Olave I would but I have McMillan pretty high I mean I I do I don't know like I think Olave was pretty the touchdown numbers were getting a little wild weren't they last year for Olave uh let me remember

50:50Andy Holloway:uh yeah he he had a stretch of he finished the season with nine he had he had a good amount of

50:56Mike Wright:him towards the end yeah well he scored in one two three four five of his last seven games before the injury. You bring in Tyson. You bring in Achan Jr. He was a one-stop shop there. I feel a little more nervous about Olave when you mix injury with it, too.

51:11Jason Moore:A.J. Brown is the easy answer, but the question is if he's traded to New England, does he stay in the third round?

51:18Mike Wright:I mean, I would have said Rice as well

51:19Jason Moore:before this news, which I maybe should still say. I think he'll be good, but the question was safest, and I would say there is nothing safe with Rice.

51:29Mike Wright:I feel the safest with Tett.

51:32Jason Moore:his youth and position is pretty secure everybody else there competes with somebody

51:38Mike Wright:yeah i mean they all come that's number one it's funny that the the adp i'm looking at

51:44Jason Moore:actually has garrett wilson later in the fourth yeah it doesn't apply but i feel

51:49Mike Wright:fine with garrett wilson as my one yeah um youtube question from uh sinji best budget tight end for 2026 in Dynasty. Obviously, you have the top guys in McBride, Bowers, Loveland, Warren, Fannum, but they're expensive, hard to acquire. Who's your surprise top 10 tight end this year? Last year, Jawan, Ferguson, Goddard, Henry all snuck into the top 10.

52:12Andy Holloway:Chig. Yeah, if you're going with the budget tight end, nice. Okonkwo could be someone who... Okonkwo. Yes. I think that's the bit. I have Henry at 9 Henry feels and I hate it and Schultz at 10 but they feel like real safe they're going to be right around there if Okonkwo hits it's better than those guys I think that the ceiling is much higher Ferguson could be an answer to that he needs George or CeeDee to not play

52:46Mike Wright:I still think

52:50Andy Holloway:the numbers when they're both on the field I know but he got banged up didn't he

52:53Mike Wright:I thought Ferguson got banged up.

52:56Andy Holloway:I don't recall. He played all 17, if that's what you mean by banged up. Definitely what I mean.

53:05Mike Wright:I mean, he had a tight end 7, 9, 12. He is very, very capable. Just the word budget came to mind when I think about Henry, Schultz, Ferguson. They're out there on a lot of snaps. Brenton Strange could be in that category.

53:22Andy Holloway:Brink Strange will have spike weeks, but he just doesn't seem like someone who's going to – he won't overtake all the other guys.

53:29Mike Wright:Do you have any other names, Jason?

53:31Jason Moore:I don't know. Maybe with the arrival of Najoku, Gadsden could be budget. In a dynasty league, I'm certainly still very in on Orande, Ariana, Gadsden.

53:44Andy Holloway:Nice. And then don't forget about Greg Dulcich. This is super budget. Super budget. We're in the super budget area here. I mean, that's like waivers on Dynasty. Right, but he is at Miami. He finished, you know, these aren't like sensational numbers, but 41 yards, 46, 46, 58. If you're doing that all year long, that's a 1 ,000-yard wide receiver, and no one's drafting him. They don't have anybody. What if Malik Willis is truly good, and then who's the number one option there besides H-Hand?

54:16Mike Wright:The Malik Willis discussion is just, that one's like totally funny to me because all the evidence we have is that Malik Willis can play quarterback. That's the evidence we have. We just don't have much of it. On Green Bay. On Green Bay, yeah. I mean, there you go. The only thing that we can point to possibly for Malik Willis is what he did on the field. He didn't get to choose how often he played.

54:38Jason Moore:But he played the only team he played for. Yeah.

54:41Mike Wright:Okay, in recent history. Oh, now there's some qualifiers. You want to go back to rookie year Malik? He didn't get signed off of that, right? He got signed off of what he did in Green Bay. I just think it's funny. This is exactly my point. Thank you for making it for me. You can't talk about him doing well. Nobody's allowing it. Oh, he played really good. Oh, it was only three games. Oh, he played really well. But what about before he played well? Like way back in the past. Like four years ago as a rookie on a different team. I just think it's funny. Nobody can acknowledge that Malik Willis can throw the football.

55:11Mike Wright:I can acknowledge it. Even though teams fought

55:13Jason Moore:for him in free agency. I can acknowledge that he can run the football very well. Oh my gosh.

55:17Mike Wright:Did he play well in his Green Bay start?

55:20Jason Moore:Yes. Did he throw the ball well? Yes, he did. Yes, but not – I mean, for fantasy purposes – No, just for real life. No, I mean – The whole point of this conversation was supporting the tight end of Greg Dolsage. I don't think he's going to throw prolifically for a bunch of yards. That's my point. Based on – Even if he's – You're basing that on – The evidence of Green Bay. I mean, he wasn't putting up huge yardage numbers, was he?

55:45Mike Wright:He got to start one game last year. He threw for 288 yards. Is that good enough? What about his other two starts? He didn't have any more last year. The year before is 122 and 202. And that was the beginning of the previous year. I don't know. I mean. The door is not allowed to be cracked open for Malik Willis to throw for 300 yards. That's what I think is hilarious.

56:03Andy Holloway:I'm not as bullish as you are.

56:06Mike Wright:I'm not saying he will. I'm not out. Hold on. I'm not bullish. I'm not saying he's going to do it. I'm saying that I'm open to the idea. As am I. Okay. due to the evidence of him doing it I'm open to him doing it

56:19Andy Holloway:he's a great late round pick

56:21Jason Moore:do you think he will do it I'll tell you what I have him projected for

56:25Mike Wright:how about that

56:26Jason Moore:wouldn't that be the best evidence

56:28Mike Wright:that is the best evidence I hope I have him projected for more 3 ,951 yards passing 3 ,900 okay so you definitely

56:36Jason Moore:yeah you think it's going to happen

56:38Mike Wright:is that what I said is that what that means

56:40Jason Moore:yeah you have him throwing for that's more than Caleb Williams threw last year, right?

56:45Andy Holloway:No. That's right around there.

56:47Jason Moore:I think it's about five yards more. I think it was 39-47.

56:51Mike Wright:39-51 divided by 17 is 232 a week.

56:54Andy Holloway:Whoop-de-doo. Well, I mean, you heard it here from Andy Holloway. Malik Willis, greater sign Caleb Williams. Yeah. More prolific passers.

57:01Mike Wright:Just as a passer. Chicago makes it feel like you can't, like that's a big number. Chicago makes you feel like 4 ,000 is impossible. You have hundreds of players do this all the time.

57:13Andy Holloway:I will say, let's see. Last year was, last year there was only six of them. Oh, shut up, Mike. There were injuries. Like Burrow definitely would have been a 4 ,000-yard guy. Lamar maybe. Yeah, cool.

57:30Mike Wright:This is a saying. I wanted to try to find the, so there were six last year over 4 ,000? Correct.

57:40Andy Holloway:it's probably a tall task it's funny because 4000 doesn't sound like a lot I mean it's 230 a week I mean that's what it is it's 230 a week I don't disagree with the math we always joke about

57:54Mike Wright:like 202 is a good streaming quarterback number

57:57Andy Holloway:yeah it's just the I am not

57:59Mike Wright:nerfing numbers as we speak Al sees me over here he thinks I'm tweaking my numbers down Malik Willis for the record is my quarterback 15 in six-point leagues. Don't ask me about four-point leagues.

58:14Jason Moore:I love that you preempted what you knew was coming. He's number six. If he throws for 4 ,000 yards, he's going to be. 39-51.

58:26Andy Holloway:That is for sure. How dare you. I'll tell you what. If he throws for 3 ,700, he will be such a good pick.

58:36Mike Wright:Remember this. Do it, Willis. Remember this under one circumstance. That he doesn't. All right. We're done. Oh, no. Get that off of me. The spotlight is on. All I was doing was trying to defend the honor of this man who got a big contract. You defended it super. Only for playing well. And nobody acknowledges the chance for 230 yards. You're crazy. He's going to be on my team, apparently. Yeah. And that is it for today's episode. Fantasy wild cards on our next. I saw Max Hall beat the New Orleans Saints. He didn't get paid$500 bazillion in the offseason. Fantasy wild cards on Tuesday. The Ultimate Draft Kit is 11 days away.

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