Fantasy Football - Ultimate Draft Week + ADP Price Check! - Podcast for 4/21

10:48Mike Wright:for this team at all this offseason I have yeah yeah I mean it a little bit I think it'll be a 50-50 timeshare there do you remember when I made it one of the worst trades I've ever made last year in Dynasty. I'm in the middle of a rebuild. The Brock Purdy one? Yeah, the Brock Purdy one. Oh, yeah. I think about it all the time. I'm thinking to myself, I think I got Jacoby Brissett and Ja 'Cory Krosky-Marin in that trade. And Brissett, now holding out in Arizona for starter money. Talk about a toilet bowl of a team.

11:18Andy Holloway:Good work, Arizona. Maybe talk to the guy. They could both be starting.

11:22Mike Wright:That's just funny to think about. They could be.

11:25Jason Moore:They did sign Rashad White. So what I'm looking forward to in this draft, and I think this is realistic, I think this could very easily happen. I just put together my official mock draft. I still have room to tweak it, and he would have been available here. I did not give him here, but it would be Kenyon Sadiq falling to the Jets at 16. I would love that so much because Sadiq is a— Jets getting Sadiq? Yeah. Sadiq is not my favorite prospect. He is obviously a superhuman athlete, best of the best, first percentile type of freak of nature. His production profile is not superb. And when you watch film, this was not like watching Brock Bowers.

12:08Jason Moore:You watch Brock Bowers and it's like this guy is the offense. No one can ever take him down. He is on another level. He's just a super elite tight end for sure. That's not how I feel about Sadiq. and that it feels bad to feel that. And so if I'm not super into Sadiq and I don't want the Jets to ruin one of the wide receivers I really like, how great would it be at 16 if they're like, we've got our receiving answer. It's Sadiq. Great, because then I'm out.

12:39Andy Holloway:We're going to be rolling out Mason Taylor.

12:41Jason Moore:Yes. Well, I mean, look.

12:45Mike Wright:He already let Sadiq drop to 16 in this hypothetical because he doesn't like him. And now he's going to the Jets to just be forgotten about. In my real draft, he drops to 19.

12:52Jason Moore:But the Jets bypassed him in my situation.

12:57Mike Wright:Is this a mock draft or is this a draft where you pretend you're the GM of every team?

13:01Jason Moore:The latter, where I pretend I'm the GM of every team. But Michael Meyer was a second-round pick, and that did not stop the Raiders from saying, hey, we need a true stud, and they took Brock Bavish. Is he a dog? Sadiq? Yeah. Sadiq's got a little dog in him. I'm just saying. Yeah. Yeah.

13:21Mike Wright:Because dogs and cats, they don't get along. Oh, you're saying if they were both on the Jets? I'm just asking.

13:27Andy Holloway:Yeah. That could be. They would just meet a double mesh route, and they'd just run into each other and start fighting.

13:33Mike Wright:Well, no, they wouldn't fight because the cat would run away. I think. What was that?

13:38Jason Moore:We don't need no cats. Be a dog.

13:41Mike Wright:I forgot about that. Those two would fight like cats and dogs. All right. Let's do some news.

13:48Jason Moore:News and notes from around the league.

13:56Mike Wright:Adam Schefter reporting the Eagles trading A.J. Brown to the Patriots is now considered likely. I mean, we've been.

14:02Andy Holloway:The fact that we all have to wait until June 1st for this bull crap to go away. I mean, we know what's happening. Just do the trade and say, hey, NFL. Do this on June 1st.

14:16Mike Wright:Agreed in principle. Yes. It will execute on June 1st. Just get it over with.

14:19Jason Moore:I mean, they do this with cuts. a post-June 1st cut. You can cut them beforehand and then designate them to be cut on June 1st. That's already a thing. Just do that with trades. Manipulate the salary cap.

14:31Andy Holloway:Which is why they can't trade him right now because they want the cap to get split between the two years.

14:36Mike Wright:He will be a patriot. It will be sad for Romeo Dobbs. It will be great for Drake May. The fact of the matter is the Eagles will be in play on Thursday. they will add a little bit of extra confirmation. They'll draft a wide receiver at some point in time, maybe early.

14:55Andy Holloway:Oh, man. I – sorry, Philadelphia. I hope they – A.J. Brown this, like as in the Tennessee Titans. This is the make good. You realize that. Mike Vrabel was the coach when they traded him, and there's the legendary video of when the trade going through, and there's someone in that room who's not happy about trading A.J. Brown. And that was Mike Vrabel. And that was Mike Vrabel. If he can get him back in Philadelphia with their first-round pick, it's like, hey, we're taking –

15:26Mike Wright:Yeah, whoever, Mike Highlemon or Jordan Tyson, it doesn't work out? Yes. Then they've done it. Then they've got the next Traylon Burks.

15:33Andy Holloway:Exactly. It's just the – this is what the world needs for balance. Look, A.J.

15:39Mike Wright:Brown's a very, very good player, and I'm going to tell you this. Jalen Hurts is not a better player without him. Right. He is not a better quarterback.

15:48Jason Moore:Devontae Smith, stock would rise. It would definitely go up. 39 % target share in games without A.J. Brown.

15:56Mike Wright:Yeah, that won't happen. No, I won't say that.

15:58Andy Holloway:It's not like a cartoon cat. Yeah, that did sound pretty. What is that? Oh, is that Fievel? What is that? Dom DeLuise? I don't know.

16:07Mike Wright:I think Philadelphia is – there will be an interesting story. Nothing we – I mean, everything we say right now, we got a little Jalen Hurts in the middle of the table. You know, Philly fans, I feel like that franchise right now is hanging on. They've got a lot of money committed, right? Their defense is going to be great, but I'm curious about the offense without A.J. Brown. That'll be very, very interesting. I said it. Jacoby Brissett's not attending phase one of the offseason program wants to be paid like a starter.

16:38Andy Holloway:Great news. That one is so funny because if you recall, at least the way it was laid out on social media, that everything was okay. They're going to get rid of Kyler. The Cardinals bring in Gardner Minshew. You're like, what? They're going to have Jacoby and Gardner Minshew? And then there was the tweet. The Cardinals are moving forward like Jacoby is the starter. He doesn't know about it yet. Right, yeah. This is why he didn't know about it because they're trying to sneak it through so they didn't have to pay Gardner money.

17:08Mike Wright:If you're planning on him being your starter, you've got to pay him like a starter. Yes.

17:11Jason Moore:Gardner Minshew was brought in not to compete but to be the backup for Jacoby Brissett, but Jacoby Brissett is not necessarily aware of this and certainly not financially, but it's great because the pictures came out early. This was months ago of the Cardinals' locker room area, their new wall graphics, and you walk into the players area and the biggest, most primary, the entire wall is a picture of Jacoby Brissett. It's like –

17:44Andy Holloway:I'm not getting paid like that guy.

17:46Jason Moore:He walks in and looks at that and goes, I'll be right back. I've got to go talk to my agent. That guy probably makes a lot of money.

17:53Mike Wright:That guy probably has$50 million for that picture up there. Daniel Jeremiah said Ty Simpson to Arizona feels inevitable when we'll find out on maybe late first round trade-up. Okay. So much. If it's inevitable, they should wait until the last round to get him. That's what I think. Grab him in the second.

18:08Andy Holloway:They've got – Jeremiah Love, Ty Simpson. Let's do it, Cardinals. That's really good work.

18:13Mike Wright:I'd rather be entertained.

18:15Andy Holloway:I would rather be a good football team in about four years.

18:18Mike Wright:If we take that off the table as an option, Mike, where else do you want to go?

18:22Andy Holloway:Okay. If that's out?

18:23Mike Wright:Yeah, that's obviously out. If that's out, fine. If good is out, entertaining is next up. The 49ers signed Trent Williams to a two-year$50 million extension.

18:33Andy Holloway:he's only made$218 million yes

18:36Mike Wright:that's a Christian McCaffrey I forgot

18:40Jason Moore:and Purdy Trent Williams is great he is an all timer and this was great at first I forgot I thought you were a Cardinals fan I have left them

18:53Mike Wright:we talked about the trade already Brandon Aubrey an agreement with the Cowboys highest paid kicker in NFL history four-year extension seven million a year 20 million guaranteed which seven million a year

19:05Jason Moore:most ever for a kicker 20 guaranteed most ever for a kicker those are not big numbers no that's like and it's so worth it brandon aubrey changes your offense trent williams two years old man trent williams two-year 15 million dollar extension 218 made and then brandon aubrey

19:22Andy Holloway:best kicker in football 20 million guaranteed i mean it it's tough when the positions get bracketed into this is the amount of money that this position makes, even though someone like Brandon Aubrey is just so incredibly valuable. When you know that your kicker is going to make a 50-plus yard kick, he will. You're like, we're in the 60s. He probably is going to make this kick.

19:47Mike Wright:When Justin Tucker was at the peak of his career, he was so incredibly valuable for that team on a regular basis. It's a superpower.

19:56Andy Holloway:So congratulations, Aubrey.

19:59Mike Wright:Alec Pierce was absent from OTAs, underwent ankle surgery, looking at a three-month recovery. This is after he signed the big deal. He was being impacted by pain in that ankle, I guess, during last season. All right. Then proved he was super tough, and everybody else would have gotten surgery but him, but now he's getting the surgery.

20:20Jason Moore:Mack Jones would not have gotten the surgery. He couldn't afford it until he signed that contract. Dude, you know what I get? First thing I'm getting. Surgery.

20:29Mike Wright:All right. We'll take a break. We've got some ADP price checks. Should be pretty fun.

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22:21Mike Wright:all right we are going to walk through some names with the only adp average drive uh average draft position that we have right now is going to be the underdog 12 team basketball drafts, but people are doing those every single day for money. And so that is the, uh, the best gauge we have until people start mock drafting and redraft leagues. So it's just a bit of, uh, bring up some names, talk about where we think they might be going, where, and then I think we follow up and talk about where we think they might go on redraft and, um, whether they look like values or not so the first player to talk about is jaden daniels of the washington commanders who just got a little uniform refresh all teams are now doing the barely changing seriously what is this jersey thing so that we can get you to buy slightly new jerseys what are but do you do

23:15Andy Holloway:people really yes yeah i a new like oh man there's a little extra yellow there i gotta have it the Jersey people do. Yeah, we do. I buy the football jersey. I buy the new Suns jersey every year. Yeah.

23:29Mike Wright:And if you don't, you're dumb.

23:31Andy Holloway:Yeah. I'm dumb. I mean, imagine wearing an old jersey.

23:35Jason Moore:What a loser. That's my secret. When I go to a Suns game, be a loser, and you don't have to worry about it. No, you get the throwback. So from now on, Cardinals should always be Larry Fitzgerald or Kurt Warner. They can't.

23:49Mike Wright:No, throwbacks are great. throwbacks are great the slightly older version uh like if anybody's wearing a atlanta falcons jersey this year of last year's jersey that's not a throwback that's lame

24:02Andy Holloway:yeah all right we don't see the difference i'm starting to throwback would be like one of them deon sanders you know red jerseys you it has to be doug glanville like it can't be sort of old

24:14Mike Wright:that's old yes okay i'm taking notes i i grabbed my pen jayden daniels uh i look at last year as a deleted year for washington in general right i mean it was yes he played seven games but did he

24:28Andy Holloway:you know it just didn't feel like he ever got it going well because in the seven games you were like uh mr daniels what the heck i spent a very high pick on you well i mean and you look at these

24:39Mike Wright:matchups like he started the year against the giants and green bay got hurt for a couple games Came back against the Chargers on the road. Had a nice game against Chicago. A letdown against Dallas. Missed another game. Came back against Seattle. Missed the rest of the, I mean, almost the rest of the season. Him and Terry were like two.

25:01Jason Moore:Chips passing in the night. Two chips passing in the night. Yeah, weeks. It was a lost season. Weeks four through seven, Terry McLaurin didn't play. Week nine, Terry McLaurin didn't play. So this is, you really only had two games where you saw Jaden Daniels and Terry McLaurin on the field. It was.

25:19Andy Holloway:And Terry got training camped.

25:22Jason Moore:Right. Yeah. He came out slow, looked like a guy who needed training camp. He should have practiced a little bit longer. So I agree with you. You throw out last year completely. Speaking of last year, Jaden Daniels was the third quarterback being grafted last year. He was the race to get Jaden Daniels was happening in all your drafts. So this year, after a completely lost year, where when he was playing, he wasn't putting up big fantasy numbers. However, he was rushing just the same. His scramble rate was higher. His total rushing attempts per game was higher.

26:00Mike Wright:Yeah, and then other guys kind of, there's excitement around players like Drake May. You know, Joe Burrow's healthy. I think a year removed from the hype. I think it's going to be lower. Let's look in. Let's guess what quarterback off the board he is. Okay. And then the round. Let's guess it that way. I think Jaden Daniels is probably the quarterback. I'm thinking eight or nine.

26:24Jason Moore:Oh. Yeah, I think it's higher than that. I'll just go on. I'm going eight. I'm in four or five. I'll be in the. I'll be in. No! 6-7, 6-7! It doesn't matter. Jamie, where's the water bottle?

26:38Mike Wright:It's right by your left foot. When you have a chance to spray Jason with water for being stupid, you've got to do it. You should leave that on the table. I wasn't fast enough. I'm going to say quarterback 8. Mike, you're saying quarterback?

26:49Andy Holloway:I'll go...

26:50Mike Wright:Just pick a number. That's the whole guessing part.

26:53Jason Moore:I'll go 5. And I'll go 6.

26:56Mike Wright:5, 6, and 8. And then round-wise, I mean, that probably ends up being... um can't put it by you you're gonna what maybe the fifth round for for us yeah for you guys six round for me maybe yeah somewhere around there all right let's go do we have this on

27:12Andy Holloway:the board reveal yourself oh 602 so what quarterback is that that is the quarterback yes we're gonna have to look that up that's a quarterback three yeah in the sixth what people are on on uh underdog wow yep he right now he is so it goes so this best ball yeah it's josh allen lamar and there's jay jayden to be fair jayden and uh joe burrow are very close to each other could you see yourself taking jayden over joe burrow yes i i can see it i will let the nfl draft go because at seven i'm not a hundred percent convinced the that washington will take a wide out they really do need one but like if if they take someone like tate at pick number seven that will be very very exciting that the fact that it's not just terry mclaurin versus the world so

28:08Mike Wright:i i can see it i can see it blows my mind that he is vaulted right back up there after a a year off

28:17Andy Holloway:and because people are like you're saying there's they're like i'm deleting it i think it's got to

28:22Mike Wright:be the rushing the rushing consistency and the fact that that's a superpower in fantasy and you just want to get the next one of those but that's a little bit surprising to me we were all wrong i mean in terms of the quarterback number off the board round wise we were about right but um yeah they need to add a weapon that gives you confidence not just chica conco you know to the offense debo is going to be i mean debo is gone right so it's funny these names like they're going to start popping up debo samuel keenan allen some of these other names that don't have teams are going to pop up on some franchise.

28:54Mike Wright:Keenan did not mean good things for Ladd McConkie last year. No, right. So Jaden Daniels QB3, 602 in the draft. Is there a fit wide receiver wise? You know, the Denzel Boston, Omar Coopers that you think works best alongside Terry McLaurin?

29:11Andy Holloway:They have to drop to the third though. They do not have a second rounder right now.

29:15Jason Moore:Yeah, basically at seven, they're either going to take one of these top three guys and that's really the difference maker for Jaden Daniels. He needs one of that level of player. That's what the commanders need in general. You know, however, if a great defensive guy slips to them, they could very well like, you know, I had Sonny Stiles dropping to them in my mock. And so they didn't take a wide receiver in the first. And if they don't, like Mike said, they don't have a lot of picks, a lot of capital to really move the needle. Personally, I'm not sure that like next year when I'm looking at quarterbacks I'm targeting, depending on where Drake May is going, depending on where Jalen Hurts is going, people aren't going to be hot and bothered with Jalen Hurts anymore.

30:01Jason Moore:Burrow, there's a handful of names. If he's really the quarterback three off the board, I went into this episode thinking he was going to be quite a value. Seems like he is not.

30:11Mike Wright:Yeah, I was kind of guessing the same. Let's jump into another name, Travion Henderson of the New England Patriots. first eight weeks of the season you didn't get to see much of him week nine through the end of the year you saw a lot of him he's the rb nine in that stretch 16.7 fantasy points per game 5.3 yards per touch i would imagine in the majority of those games mike still felt like

30:39Andy Holloway:he was being underutilized in all of them yeah accurately so but you know there's not

30:47Mike Wright:Ramondre's not going anywhere. No. Drake May will continue to take a step forward. You add A.J. Brown to the offense. You add Romeo Dobbs to the offense. I think the passing game will get a lot of attention in the offseason. So where do you think players are going to put Trevo? I'll say I think he's probably running back 19.

31:07Andy Holloway:I think that's a very good guess.

31:08Jason Moore:Yeah, I was going to say he's in the 20s, which is surprising with his breakout as a rookie, as not only just a rookie, but one that people were all excited about. You know, you're my guy, right? Who was my guy last year? Had that breakout, looked like he was going to be the next Jameer Gibbs superstar. To have him not in the top 20 at running back. But this is, I got to remember this. We haven't revealed it. No, I know, I know, I know. I'm thinking of normal rankings, but I'm not considering, you know, an underdog. A lot of times you're swinging for the fences trying to hit the home run. Travo is a home run.

31:42Jason Moore:So, yeah, I'll just say running back 20.

31:44Mike Wright:So I'm at 19. You're at 20, Mike. Where do you want to go?

31:47Andy Holloway:I'll go running back. Oh, he finishes running back 18. I bet he's drafted around there. 18, 19, 20? I'm worried about Ramondre. You're worried that he's good. Oh, no. He's worried about the utilization. I'm worried that he's going to Charbonnet him. That teams are just like, well, go on, Ramondre. So running back 20, I'm going to say that would be the fifth round. I'm going late fourth.

32:13Mike Wright:Yeah, I'll go with the fourth round. Go ahead and show me the ADP. Oh, yeah. 411. That is the RB20. Oh, he is 20. On the dot. RB20 on the dot in the back of the 11th round. You win this time. I don't know. It's weird because, like, the prototype of Trayvon Henderson is to say he's a home run. Like, there's this home run possibility. I don't see it in this offense. Even if Ramondre's hurt, I think they'll utilize other guys. I don't think they look at Trayvon Henderson as a – I don't look at him like Jameer Gibbs from a three-down perspective. I don't think he has that. I don't think he's – I think he does.

32:56Andy Holloway:It's like the A.J. Brown, I think it is happening. So then you're like, okay, more touchdowns. But do they give goal line work to Henderson or do they go back to Ramondre? It was the fact that he broke – talking about Henderson, the way he broke out in the middle of the season and towards the end, it was a true breakout. It was awesome. He was changing the game. And then they're like, yeah, but we still got Ramondre. We like him. So I don't know if heading into the sophomore year, if that will get totally flipped. If it gets flipped, then he's a steal at running back 20, which that's the decision you've got to make when you're building your teams.

33:40Mike Wright:Yeah, he's going to be a really interesting player this year because we know they're going to win a lot of football games. And you want young talent on really good football teams.

33:51Jason Moore:And running backs get injured. I mean, this is one of those situations where when you are getting a really talented back in a timeshare, there is always the opportunity of an injury to the other party you know just like what happened in his rookie year when Ramondre got injured he was forced to be the guy and we know here's what we know I know you say you don't see him as a three down bell cow that is probably correct when when we look at how are they going to utilize him they're not going to force that they have no reason to but I do believe he can do it and will excel at it when given that opportunity so an injury can always make that happen.

34:29Jason Moore:That's the type of player I would want at running back 20.

34:31Mike Wright:I think a couple interesting things about him. For him to be a top 10 guy, we were looking at those target totals. Those would have to come up, I think. I mean, that nine-game stretch where he was really good, he was only on 45 target pace during those nine games. He's averaging about 16 opportunities a game. I don't know if he's a guy that would stay as efficient with as much work, but he's explosive. If he can break a long touchdown, he can catch the football. They just didn't do it as much. In fact, Ramondre caught the ball a lot. So he's an interesting name for this upcoming year. Jalen Warren.

35:10Jason Moore:The ever disrespected.

35:12Mike Wright:Yeah, and I just, my face says it all. It's like. It's how I feel too. This is. He feels like Tony Pollard or something. He was the running back 16.

35:21Jason Moore:16. He was the running back 16 while sharing time with Kenneth Gainwell, who led the team in receptions and is no longer there. And I'm very confident he's after Hindo. No one's drafting him ahead of Travion Henderson.

35:35Mike Wright:No, I think Jalen Warren, you know, we've had 20 years with Mike Tomlin, right, where we've got to, like, see that grimace on his face and know what he's doing at running back. But we won't see it anymore. No, I know. I'm saying it makes it different. It makes it more of a variable. Like Mike McCarthy, does he use – do we get another one of his little Ezekiel Elliott committee years? Well, that's – Warren's the best player. He – On their running back room. For sure. In their running back room, right? Well, I don't know.

36:04Andy Holloway:Well, they got Rico. They got Rico. It's the – They got Caleb. He's not factoring into the equation. It's Jalen Warren versus Rico. It's the reunion of Mike McCarthy and Rico, which Rico doubt will break out year if you are newer or you don't remember, it was the second half of the year with the Dallas Cowboys with Mike McCarthy.

36:26Mike Wright:But then they dumped him.

36:28Andy Holloway:I know. I'm just saying it's all good to come back to McCarthy or bad. I think it's good for Rico.

36:37Mike Wright:All right, Jalen Warren running back 25.

36:42Jason Moore:I'll go after that, man. I'm going to say 27. Yeah.

36:50Mike Wright:When he said after that, I thought he was like, I thought he meant it like in a significant way, not like, whoa. I'll go one cent. It's the Price is Right rules, man.

37:04Andy Holloway:Well, it just sounded more like you were going to say 30 or something. Take 26. Man, I wonder if him and Rika are going right near each other. I bet they are. I'm going to go running back 29. Yeah, so you're talking like a 7th, 8th round pick? Yeah.

37:20Mike Wright:All right, right now he is going as... Oh, the running back 29. Running back 29. Just ham. That's where Jason would have picked if he had more courage. 7-0-8.

37:32Andy Holloway:I'm going way after that. Two spots. I was two spots away from being correct.

37:37Mike Wright:You said he's 40 years old. He looks way older than that. 41.

37:43Andy Holloway:Jalen Warren at RB29. Does that... Enrico's at 31.

37:47Mike Wright:And Rico's at 31. If I had to choose between the two, I feel like I'd want to go Rico.

37:53Andy Holloway:Eileen Rico as well. Because I feel like Warren is kind of usurpable.

37:58Jason Moore:I will stick with Jalen Warren. I mean, but so is Rico. Every team that he's been on, no matter how well he plays, whatever is happening in the locker room, we've seen it. It's kind of like when you talk about Kenneth Walker. You're like, I'm not sure how it's going to fail. But it just always does some way. whether it's you're healthy and you get Charbonnade whether it's you're great but you can't stay healthy just we've had year after year after year after year where we see flashes just doesn't work out that's Rico always a bridesmaid yeah I mean it's like no matter he's had these unbelievable stretches where you're like this is a top tier running back he had a thousand yards and yet teams just are like he does not matter to us at all but two year twelve and a half million dollars

38:45Andy Holloway:for Rico.

38:47Mike Wright:Okay.

38:48Andy Holloway:Are you asking? I'm saying that that's what it was. So this will be a good example. We talk about ambiguous backfields for a strategy because you don't know what to do here. Jalen Warren, Rico, do I really want anyone on the Pittsburgh Steelers? And the answer is based off of their cost, yes, you 100 % do. We'll track this you know stick with the show we'll track this over training camp where the the drum beat who who's getting the buzz of like they're the more likely neither will move up enough in the draft

39:25Mike Wright:to make them too expensive right and you brought up in the um just the tips that we did last off season eight and a half teams on average per year have lacked a top 24 drafted running back in

39:39Andy Holloway:fantasy totally makes sense those numbers make sense yeah eight to nine teams have nobody that's

39:43Mike Wright:being drafted in the top 24 at the position yeah it makes sense from a math perspective yes i'm just saying like from an opportunity perspective you know i think losing tomlin gives me a little bit less confidence that they will be you know consistent the way they've always been but mike mccarthy is kind of the other example of that type of guy where like mccarthy shows up and people play

40:04Andy Holloway:pretty hard the follow-up to that is five players from those teams on average per year jump into the top 24 and the follow-up of that oh there's not this is my step no this was your stat was that

40:18Jason Moore:you tried to pick the ones on the best offense yes that's how we've we've had a lot of success the last couple years picking like uh Javante yeah last year last year it was disgusting but we it was disgusting it was like okay but you you know the Cowboys are probably gonna have a good offense so you take maybe someone wanted uh whoever the rookie was blue um last year or you choose Javante but you want to take one of those ambiguous backfields from a good offense the question now for Jalen Warren for Rico Dowdle is I mean first of all who's the quarterback is right now Aaron Rodgers is not the Will Howard right now reporting that he's now I love that it was reported before this like they expect to know by the draft and now it's just being reported like oh they're not going to know by the draft it's like yeah because we're a week from the draft and you don't know it's so wild um i don't even if aaron rogers comes back i would not put this as a like as a really good offense as a top half offense so tbd um we'll take a break and then we'll talk about uh jaylen warren of the wide receiver position this message is brought to you

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43:18Christopher Godwin, the Goblin.

43:23Mike Wright:Where are we with this guy at this point in time? He's, you know, most of the year was deleted. He missed a lot of time with an ankle and a fibula injury that it didn't seem like he'd recover from and he did and he had one or two games that were kind of all right and it was in a year where mike evans was banged up and abuka took off and you got jim millen back and tess johnson had games and kate otten was relevant at times like there are a lot of pass catching options he is not a spring chicken anymore and yet chris godwin has value for fantasy doesn't he i mean he should but

44:01Jason Moore:But he's 30 years old, and he missed so much of last year coming off of that injury. Yeah, but he played at the end of it. He did play at the end. So you know his season.

44:09Mike Wright:He also missed almost all of the previous year.

44:11Jason Moore:Yeah, but that injury that took him out for the second half of last year and the first half of this year, right before that injury, he was averaging over 16 fantasy points a game. Now Mike Evans is gone. The opportunity for him to come in and maybe even be the one still exists on this team.

44:30Mike Wright:Man, he feels like an 86 reception for 870-yard guy this year to me.

44:38Jason Moore:At age 30, I tend to agree with you. I don't want him.

44:41Mike Wright:I think he's a PPR guy that is – I'm going to put my ADP guess at wide receiver 34.

44:50Jason Moore:I'll go wide receiver 41, and I'm going to say that's the ninth round.

44:56Mike Wright:Mike?

44:57Andy Holloway:I'm going to go to the middle. Surprise. I was trying to remember what you said. 34. Oh, 38.

45:03Mike Wright:All right. He is the wide receiver 43 in the eighth round. I feel like Chris. This is not a ceiling draft selection, so this is where it gets tough. This is where you'll be picking Chris Godwin or a rookie that you don't know how they might emerge. I don't know if I'm going to draft him. To me, Godwin still feels like, depending on how many fantasy football leagues I'm in,

45:35Andy Holloway:let's say I'm in five leagues, I'm going to make sure I have Godwin on at least one or two of those teams. Ibuka is going to be the hotness, and chasing youth, especially youth, a young NFL player who already had a breakout. which I did Abuka break out yes you follow that

46:00Mike Wright:he broke right back in

46:02Andy Holloway:let me in he broke into the jail cell and pulled the door closed Abuka is going as a wide receiver 17 that makes complete sense for the situation that they are in but like I said if I have multiple multiple teams I think there is a chance that Godwin is easily the best wide receiver for fans.

46:28Jason Moore:It's what I said a minute ago. He still has the opportunity with Evans out of the way to be the wide receiver one for Baker Mayfield, for the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. If Ibuka keeps that...

46:38Andy Holloway:Baker couldn't find over the second half. Baker just couldn't connect with Ibuka. Baker can connect with Chris Godwin. Diggs with New England.

46:47Jason Moore:Right, yeah. That's what it feels like for Godwin. I think that's a good comp, a quality wide receiver. who's going to be in the right spot and do the right thing for a veteran quarterback in Baker. And that's not always great for fantasy.

47:01Mike Wright:I'm shaking my head moving to this next name because, you know, on our website, we have, you know, we have the game log for these players. And, you know, you see the games that are top 24 finishes, top 12 finishes, they're green. Anything in that middle tier, wide receiver three range, they're yellow. and then the red games are these bust games for our consistency charts.

47:25Andy Holloway:Just looking at this. Red means stop. We want you to stop doing that.

47:29Mike Wright:Stop it. Brian Thomas Jr. for Jacksonville. This is a game log that is horrific and terrifying for where he was drafted and what you saw from him.

47:41Jason Moore:There's a lot more green on Parker Washington's game log.

47:44Andy Holloway:The Jags are hilarious. I don't know if you if you tuned into last week's footcast we were talking about Travis Hunter you know the reports come out he's going to be a full time DV part time wide receiver and right now in Dynasty people are they're trying to flip Travis Hunter and Andy got an offer I got an offer for Travis I'm mad did you get an offer I did not okay you were lucky enough I guess but these were like it's like how how do you not want Travis Hunter the number two overall pick and at the end of everything night Andy didn't trade for him I didn't trade no and I got more offers over the weekend and we just didn't quite get saying and then you got Brian Thomas Jr like do I want Brian Thomas but the Jags are going to be a top tier offense they're gonna be really good they're gonna be fantastic and we're looking at the wide receivers like here's what so I don't know who I want

48:42Mike Wright:what's so weird about weird like you said certifiably that a buka broke out right yes which then of course brian thomas jr broke oh oh for sure he had a his didn't he finish as the wide receiver seven his rookie year his final six games of the season and i know it was mac jones and some trevor lawrence but to be clear are you talking about the previous year what we were drafting here's what we were drafting on a pace of 127 for 1714 14 touchdowns so So 200 targets, 127 receptions, 1 ,700 yards, 14 touchdowns. That was his final six weeks. And then we're like, now figure out where to draft him in the draft.

49:21Mike Wright:And he went super high.

49:22Jason Moore:He was in the conversation with Malik Nabors as far as like talent. After that rookie year, it was like he is – was he just as good as his college teammate? And it's almost – you can't even think like that anymore after this bust of a sophomore season. You can't remember how good Brian Thomas Jr. was as a rookie. but he did that he did that in the NFL he did it without Jacoby Myers or Travis Hunter Parker

49:46Mike Wright:Washington surrounding him um with a different quarterback and I it's really hard to look at Brian Thomas and be like I think he's just going to settle into mediocrity as for his career but that's how it feels right now I don't feel like there's margin for anything remarkably close to those numbers in this offense when you have those other names they just gave a huge contract to Jacoby Myers. Parker Washington has emerged. I think Travis Hunter plays offense. To me, Brian Thomas Jr., again, this is not a discussion about what he's going to do. This is where he's being drafted. I think he's being drafted as the wide receiver in the 20s.

50:27Mike Wright:20? No, maybe not. Yeah, 26. I'll go 26. I'm going to go 26. What do you mean? Dang it. That was the number of my money. Come on over.

50:39Jason Moore:I think he's wide receiver 26. Yeah. You've still got a lot of hope, a lot of youth, a lot of extreme athleticism. And we've talked about this in the past as well. It is often a good bet when you can get a discount. And you're looking at the guys that are going falling in drafts. There's always a reason, right? Oh, the quarterback play, the talent, the age, the whatever. And then you've got to write the path forward. but the paths when we look back at the players who dropped and then went outstanding just rebounded in one fantasy leagues a lot of times they have done it before Chris Godwin was one of these people once before in his career uh Cooper Cup was one of those players where it was like we had seen them be great before they got injured or they struggled or whatever and they were were done with them and then then Cooper Cup was the number one wide receiver in all of fantasy so I think Brian Thomas Jr.

51:32Jason Moore:can get back. 26 for me and Jason. What do you got, Mike? I'll go 24.

51:37Mike Wright:The answer is the wide receiver 31. Oh my gosh. He is still being drafted ahead of Parker Washington, who's wide receiver 35. Jacoby Myers, who's wide receiver 41. I'm assuming Travis Hunter is nowhere to be found.

51:51Andy Holloway:Oh.

51:53Mike Wright:Wide receiver 64.

51:56Jason Moore:That is... I mean, if I take a shot on one of those guys... He's the most complete package of the group. I'd definitely take the shot on Brian Thomas Jr.

52:03Mike Wright:How can you have an offense that good and no one being drafted in the top 30 wide receiver? There is gold in the heels, boys. I mean, that's like my guy calling your name, Jay, Brian Thomas. Nice truck. I almost said it for me, but it's more you.

52:18Jason Moore:I know what you're saying. We're talking about these ambiguous – it works both in the wide receiver core and in the running back room. You want a good offense, and you don't know where it's going to come from. this is a wide receiver group that you're like well there's too many mouths to feed here i'm not sure who could break out so we're going to draft none of them except if you say one of these guys brian thomas jr parker washington jacoby myers was going to be a top 15 wide receiver in fantasy

52:45Andy Holloway:btj of course it's going to be brian thomas jr what if i told you that after the bye week so we're talking weeks nine through 18 this is for a football season that's a decent sample there's no Travis Sonser because he got he was already hurt the target share Jacoby 21 percent Parker Washington 21 percent Brenton Strange 16 percent oh Brian Thomas Jr. I don't know if you're

53:10Jason Moore:doing the math we're running out of targets we're running out of percents we're running out of time

53:16Mike Wright:15 yeah and he moved I mean he was not running it was a different offense different head coach different coordinator than the year before.

53:24Andy Holloway:To have, they have the bye week, and they go, we're, and because weeks one through seven, Brian Thomas was the dominant.

53:34Jason Moore:Here's why that, here's why I think this, this happened mid season. I don't blame them at all for making that transition. Because he was stinky. Because the first seven weeks up to the bye week, he was on target for 133 targets. Great. He was, like you said, the market share was great. He was everything we wanted in fantasy, except he caught less than half of those balls. He was 49 % catch rate. It was ruining drives.

53:58Andy Holloway:Okay. Now let me also add this.

53:59Jason Moore:And so they go into the bye week and they're like, we got to fix this.

54:01Andy Holloway:Right. And then they're like, hey, this is the new plan moving forward. And then they go eight and one.

54:06Jason Moore:So now they go to the off season and they get to do anything they want. I am because I think.

54:12Mike Wright:There is a non-zero chance that he's traded on Thursday. Ooh. I think he stays on the team. I mean, again, I'm not saying the odds are that that happens. I'm just saying there's been enough smoke for a year and a half.

54:24Andy Holloway:You can't be the insider that was like, don't be shocked if this happens. You're like, is it going to happen? No, but don't be shocked. And remember I said don't be shocked.

54:34Mike Wright:Yeah, remember I told you not to be shocked. I think that there's room for this team. You just made the case why they can succeed without him. That's what you just did. It's like it. Because they can use Travis Hunter, who they didn't have.

54:49Andy Holloway:That will be a very wild mystery to solve this offseason.

54:55Mike Wright:All right, real quick here. Let's do one more name. Just guess the ADP of where Colston Loveland is going right now. Oh, too low.

55:01Andy Holloway:I'll tell you that much. Am I right, Jay? Maybe.

55:09Mike Wright:I just pointed at Jay, huh? I don't know. Mr. Love Land himself I'm going to say he's the tight end 3 3

55:20Andy Holloway:As much as we all love Colston Loveland you can't draft him over McBride or Bowers No, but I think he's the next man up And let's put him Depending on Daniel Jones

55:30Jason Moore:I still think I might go Tyler Warren over him Stop this nonsense It's not nonsense man He was great They were both great, they could both be great

55:40Andy Holloway:No they can't

55:41Jason Moore:There could be only one. What round?

55:44Andy Holloway:Colson Loven's going, I'll say, third round.

55:47Jason Moore:I think it'll be lower. I still think tight end three, but yeah, late fourth.

55:53Mike Wright:All right, where are we with Colson Loven? Right now he is the tight end three going in the - Whoa!

55:57Jason Moore:Too low, I told you!

55:58Mike Wright:Fourth round.

55:59Jason Moore:But still the tight end three. I think that's appropriate. I think that's, if you really look at - I think it's inappropriate. That's like Mr.

56:05Mike Wright:Likeland.

56:05Jason Moore:Yeah. That's not good enough. Get on board, people. At the fourth round - There's a dog in the back of the fourth. waiting for you with a lot of with a lot of good i'm with you mike let's grind i'll be going elsewhere i'll be grabbing a running back or a wide receiver it's funny because i have uh for

56:23Mike Wright:those of you that follow along with our league of record and what we do in that league we have a keeper lottery you have one franchise player and then you have three players that go into a keeper lottery they can't match the position group of the franchise player and then on draft like when And when the draft's over, we're going to find out what player's going back. My three keepers are Omari and Hampton.

56:43Andy Holloway:This is your lottery? Yeah, my lottery.

56:45Mike Wright:Omari and Hampton, Kenneth Walker, and Colson Loveland. And so by all measures, I want to lose Loveland in that draft.

56:53Jason Moore:Yeah, that makes sense. Except what about the measure of your heart?

56:55Mike Wright:The measure of my heart wants that dog on my team.

56:58Jason Moore:I want that dog.

56:59Mike Wright:Well, the good news is you won't be too disappointed then. Yeah, I think that puts me in a better spot if I'm having to give back a running back. Oh, gosh, I've got to lock in my keepers. Do you have any? Yeah. No, that's good. You got good ones? That's good. You got good ones? I got some good good. Why don't you share? You got some good good? I got some good good. Some good good? By the way, I think my franchise is going to be Malik Nabors, I think.

57:22Andy Holloway:Oh, man. Dance with the devil.

57:25Mike Wright:But if I get shaky legs by the end of this draft, maybe I mix it up. You don't have very long. I know. No. It's Saturday. Here's what shaky legs would be. They draft Jordan Tyson.

57:40Andy Holloway:They will draft one of the three. I know. And I think it's Tyson. Well, maybe Hampton becomes some franchise. I don't know.

57:49Mike Wright:I don't know. This is why we do this after the draft. It's because we don't want to force somebody to make those picks.

57:57Andy Holloway:Skiff, Tyler Shuck, and Jackson Dart. Weapons. One of them. Weapons. One of them.

58:04Jason Moore:I think I've got to risk Jonathan Taylor. Oh. Break it down. What do you think your setup's going to be? So, yeah, I don't know. Let's just workshop this. We've got a couple minutes. Okay. So, this is work out some personal problems. My two best players are CeeDee Lamb and Jonathan Taylor. Okay. Right?

58:27Mike Wright:Only one of those could be a franchise.

58:28Jason Moore:Right. Then my other players, I've got Josh Jacobs, Travis Etienne.

58:34Mike Wright:What's that?

58:35Jason Moore:Oh, Travis H. Ann. H. Ann Jr. Travis H. Ann Jr. And I guess David Montgomery. Or as I call him. Yeah, aka.

58:42Mike Wright:Rumbelaya.

58:43Jason Moore:Rumbelaya.

58:44Mike Wright:Does that make you want to keep him more?

58:45Jason Moore:It does make me want to keep him more.

58:46Andy Holloway:I would much rather have Rumbelaya. Rumbelaya at lunch the other day, and I was like, this is fantastic.

58:51Mike Wright:Rumbelaya is better than learning his name.

58:53Jason Moore:And then I've got Chris Olave and Roma Dunze. So it feels like my strength is at the running back. I think you've got to go CeeDee Lamb and the three running backs.

59:06Mike Wright:You've got to try to get a pair of running backs. You're not going to be that unhappy in any combo.

59:10Jason Moore:I'll be pretty unhappy if I lose Jonathan Taylor. Okay.

59:16Mike Wright:Mike's got CMC.

59:17Andy Holloway:Well, my three for those who have B. John McCaffrey and Chase Brown are my three lotto. So one of those is like the other. The draft could be. What are you three? B. John, Christian McCaffrey, Chase Brown. So our draft could have B. John and Johnny Taylor in there.

59:34Jason Moore:Please have. You cannot lose Chase Brown. I will be so upset. What do you got? What do you got? What's your situation? My franchise. Oh, Jamar. Yeah, my friend.

59:45Mike Wright:More than likely, it'll be Trey McBride franchised, Drake London, Garrett Wilson, and Quinchon Judkins.

59:52Andy Holloway:Okay. Okay.

59:53Mike Wright:That's a good franchise. We got one more dude in the office. Papa Josh, let's hear it. It's TBD still. Wow. You don't have a clue on your franchise player?

1:00:05Jason Moore:No, we're waffling big time.

1:00:06Mike Wright:Give me the players you're waffling between.

1:00:08Jason Moore:We can help you out here.

1:00:09Mike Wright:Yeah, we got you. We do this full time. We're friends.

1:00:12Jason Moore:I'm good.

1:00:13Mike Wright:I don't trust you guys.

1:00:14Jason Moore:I don't trust you guys. No, no, no, no, no. You're going to have to wait and find out. Okay, fine. I'm going to have to pull this up. We can't manipulate your system.

1:00:20Andy Holloway:Why don't you pull it up, Andy?

1:00:22Jason Moore:We'll talk about it. We legit haven't decided yet.

1:00:24Mike Wright:Okay, no. We're going to decide for you. I'm pulling it up right now because you didn't want to tell us. Don't you worry. All right, so he's got – here he is. So he's probably going to franchise – now he sees us. Yeah, you see what I'm talking about? So he has Puka Nakua and he has Amon Ra. Okay.

1:00:39Jason Moore:Which means if you franchise one of those guys, you cannot keep the other in your lottery because they have to be different positions. So then if he were to.

1:00:46Mike Wright:And then his running backs are his best running backs like Kyron. Kyron, for sure. And Javante. And Bucky.

1:00:52Jason Moore:He could franchise Tyler Warren.

1:00:55Mike Wright:He could franchise Tyler Warren. That gives him flexibility. He also has Rushy Rice. And go Puka, Amonra, Kyron.

1:00:59Jason Moore:Yeah. Or Rushy Rice. Yeah. You've got some decisions to me. Yeah, you do. That's why I wasn't joking, man. I don't know what I'm doing yet. I think I would franchise Kyron, put Puka, Amon Ra, and Rushy Rice. That's probably what we're leaning for, to be honest.

1:01:14Mike Wright:I think I'd franchise one of the – I think I'd franchise Puka, my number one wide receiver. Really? And throw back – And then I'd throw Warren, Kyron, Bucky for my three. I would do that too if I were you. No. What would you do, Mike?

1:01:31Andy Holloway:Eileen – Eileen what Jason said.

1:01:33Mike Wright:Okay.

1:01:35Andy Holloway:I mean, it's – Why don't you guys make out? Go to that Sedona resort. You have a 33 % chance of losing the player you don't want to lose. Those are good odds. UltimateDraftKid.com. Get in the contest. Goodbye.

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