Fantasy Football - Underrated or Overrated + THE MEGALASHOW RETURNS! - Podcast for 6/16

9:19Mike Wright:I do want to read this quote because Andy Reid said he was asked if Rashi Rice will be ready for the start of training camp. His quote was, I think he will be. He gets out of jail next week. We'll see where he goes. He'll be back up here and working.

9:33Jason Moore:It's always good when your players are out of jail. That's really important for getting on the field.

9:39Mike Wright:Yeah. I don't think we have any other news. I mean, we got the big announcement out of the way. We got the news out of the way. You guys want to get into the main segment? ballerslive.com oh yeah do that as well

9:56Mike Wright:underrated or overrated

10:03Mike Wright:okay various topics not just players but there will be players mixed in there will be draft strategies mixed in um we're going to do a little underrated overrated we did it last year whether you're watching you're listening we'll let you know what's going on but we're going to bring up a couple of topics and we'll decide what we truly believe about these ones at least in the moment here man this first one is so hard so why don't you introduce the first one jason so the

10:33Jason Moore:first one that we're going to decide whether and they're not all players but this first one is it's Lad McConkie. Right now we've got to decide if we think going into 2026 he is being overrated or underrated. It could go either ways. Right now, where he's being rated is Are you looking for his ADP? Yeah, he's back of the fourth. He's at the 4-5 turn. Wide receiver 20. This is really

11:01Andy Holloway:hard because... Don't do your analysis yet. You've got to give your thumb first. Do we? I think you go one, two, three, and then we show it, and then you give your reasoning. My gosh. Hold on. Yeah. Lad McConkie. How do you spell that, Mike?

11:16Mike Wright:You give him more time. L-A-D-D. Okay. All right. I think I'm going to go with this one. All right. Here we go. You know what you got to do, man. All right. Three, two, one. Dang it. Ooh, Andy. Dang it. Andy. So just for the listening audience, Mike went overrated. Jason went overrated. I threw up the underrated

11:38Andy Holloway:I'm just going to lean into my villain arc right now

11:41Mike Wright:well that has to hurt Jason it hurts so much

11:43Andy Holloway:it hurts me as well

11:46Mike Wright:you want to know what the difference was to me the presence of Keenan Allen on that roster right now I think it's a pendulum swing I think we all would have said before the draft we would have held up underrated before the first season his rookie season yeah i think we liked lad mccon oh yeah for sure then i think after the first season we knew that he was gonna have to perform at a really high level relative to draft cost maybe would have gone overrated at that point um but i i guess i think he's 24 years old and if there's no keenan allen i think maybe you could see him return to somewhere much closer to the wide receiver 12 finished from 2024 than the wide receiver 28 finish of last year let me just explain the difference between a year we were thrilled with and a year we were unhappy with is 12.5 points per game as a rookie and 9.2 points per game as a sophomore all the major numbers went down I think we all understood he was a huge bust in the draft but I like Mike McDaniel I like no Keenan Allen there and then I'll change it to overrated if he's back yeah but this is I mean he's in he's in select companies still over the last decade he's one of seven wide receivers with 200 targets, 1 ,900 receiving yards, and 13 touchdowns in the first two years.

13:06Mike Wright:There's only been seven guys that have done that. I mean, this is a soft underrated.

13:13Jason Moore:Yeah, as a prospect, I think he is.

13:15Mike Wright:What did you say he was being drafted?

13:16Jason Moore:I'm sorry. Wide receiver 20, like the 4-5 turn.

13:20Mike Wright:Oh my gosh, that's right between 12 and 28. Right in the middle.

13:24Jason Moore:Yeah, yeah it is.

13:25Mike Wright:Like exactly the middle.

13:27Jason Moore:Here's the issue. I think as a prospect, as a wide receiver, I think he's underrated. I wish he was more vocal and a squeaky wheel. I mean, it's been talked about like in the room. He's a quiet guy. He is not a vocal leader. He's not a diva. I need this guy to get some diva in him and demand the ball and say, I want it. Because if he did that, he would get open. He would get the ball. You do well. My biggest issue is simply this. The two wide receiver sets are going to be massively important on the Chargers this year. This is a Mike McDaniel system that's going to come in. They brought in Najoku.

14:03Jason Moore:They have Gadsden. They use a fullback. Their personnel groupings with two wide receivers are going to go way up. And for the wide receivers on the field, that's a good thing. So if Ladd is out there in all two wide receiver sets, whole baby, Andy will be right. He is being underrated right now as a wide receiver 20 he is awesome however only 20 is such a smart spot for people to draft yeah only 10 percent of his routes last year came with two or fewer wide receivers on the field so hopefully this is a keen and allen gone situation but this is why i love quentin johnston because it sounds so weird to say he's the only guy that we know for sure is out there

14:46Mike Wright:adding njoku was a surefire guarantee we're going to get a lot of two wide receiver sets Najoku and Gaston will be out there, and we'll get two wide. It's hard for me to look at – like Mike McDaniel, he had some guys you wanted to bring into the offense, right? And I'll let you jump in, Mike, with your thoughts. But he had some guys you wanted to bring in, right? You brought in the running back to play behind – Keaton Mitchell. Keaton Mitchell. He had certain players and a fullback. Alec Ingle. It would be shocking to me if Mike McDaniel is like –

15:13Andy Holloway:And Thompson, right? Brennan Thompson was the wide receiver. Apparently he was demanding he wanted that speed.

15:19Mike Wright:When you look at the roster as it stands now with no Keenan Allen, it's hard for me to say Mike McDaniel, as much as we think of him on the offensive side of the ball, is going to do a lot to keep Ladd McConkie off the field and not a part of the offense. But Mike, you said overrated as well.

15:32Andy Holloway:I don't like the draft price.

15:37Andy Holloway:It's such a strong assumption of draft capital that Ladd McConkie for sure is the guy. And my belief of the player, it should be him. But the fact that we had last year, like Keenan Allen is, I mean, this is a pro's pro. But you're a second-round rookie who just put up 1 ,150 yards, performs in the playoffs, and then they're just like, yeah. But Keenan Allen, you know, we got Keenan Allen in his 30s. We're going to play him over you.

16:11Jason Moore:I will say this. It's very weird. Keenan Allen targets per route run was significantly better than Ladd. keenan allen yards per route run last year was also significant keenan allen's a goat um but it's

16:23Andy Holloway:like man if you can't beat out a 30 year old keenan allen that's just the draft i wanted to look it

16:29Mike Wright:up the draft price for lad mcconnell do you remember where it was last year because i have it in front of me oh yeah it was it was top 15 wide draft community was hot for lad like wide receiver 12 every platform he was 11 yeah he was 11 i mean he's that was around he was a rookie

16:42Andy Holloway:wide receiver who had just put up over 1 ,100 yards.

16:46Mike Wright:I do agree with you guys. There's a lot of risk there. This is one of those training camp situations we need to watch closely because he's not worth the 20th spot if he's not out there and too wide. He's just not.

16:57Andy Holloway:ADP wise, I know you guys aren't in on as Zay as much as I am, but right after that is Zay and Jamison Williams and Devontae Smith who I wonder if his ADP ends up jumping. Did you hear the latest rumor of that team? Wait, is it Dontavian Wicks related? No, it's Tyree Kill related.

17:16Mike Wright:Oh, I had not. I had seen some rumors about, like, is that the place that Tyree Kill ends up landing? They go, they trade A.J. Brown, they get a lot of draft capital, they draft Makai Lemon and Stowers, but maybe they feel like they need to take a little bit off of De 'Ante Smith.

17:31Andy Holloway:I think Smith's ADP is going to go up. But, no, the last thing I was reading for Beat Reporters was saying how with Lemon, because Lemon is banged up. Wicks was clearly the current plan to replace A.J. Brown.

17:44Mike Wright:Is he catching the ball?

17:46Andy Holloway:Probably. I don't know. It's practice. So Smith and then Abuka and then Terry McLaurin. To finalize the point of where Ladd's going, his ADP, it's really tough when – I think that's a compelling point because I think other than Jamison there,

18:02Mike Wright:you could make the argument that Jamison's not out there as much as Ladd.

18:06Andy Holloway:Even if they're in, okay, Ladd's the guy. Ladd's in two wide. It's Kuge and him. What's the percentage chance that Ladd outscores Kuge?

18:17Mike Wright:Very high. I don't know about that. To me.

18:20Andy Holloway:I would say it's more, but how high? Like fourth round versus free? Kuge could do it with touchdowns.

18:28Mike Wright:He could have 24 catches.

18:30Andy Holloway:Everything is ADP for me, for Ladd. Right now it does seem like he is rated. Like he is perfectly rated.

18:36Mike Wright:it yeah the community has done a perfect job of like i think he will be i think he will be right around 20 frankly so you're not getting a deal um we'll take a break and we'll get into some more what's up foot clan you are confident and disciplined and focused on details just like everyone here at the fancy footballers right those are words you've used to describe us in other words you were made to drive the 2026 Sierra 1500 Denali, a full-size pickup combining capability with elevated design and advanced technology. You can seek out the exceptional with the Denali, their standard 5.3 liter V8 engine and 10-speed automatic transmission.

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20:21Mike Wright:All right, we did our first underrated, overrated. The second one is home road splits. So how much do you care about home road splits for a player?

20:34Mike Wright:Home road splits, underrated or overrated?

20:38Andy Holloway:Okay. I've got mine. I've got mine.

20:41Mike Wright:Three, two, one. All right. We got Andy and Jason with overrated, Mike with underrated. I will say this. If you had told me this was like dome outdoor splits, I would have answered differently.

20:56Jason Moore:Yeah, for me, why I think home road splits are overrated is because I think it really only impacts one position. You're not really going to be making massive starts like decisions on your wide receivers on your running backs based on like if you've got a running back, you don't really get a chance to be like, well, you can be more excited. Oh, he's at home, you know, so great. Maybe he'll do better, but you're going to start him. the quarterback is like okay I'm streaming the position I need to know and then I'm looking at home road splits I am and I think they can be valuable there but the big truth is they kind of it's chaos and chaos usually comes back to normal so even guys who for a while have big home road splits oftentimes then it it evens out you see that with Jared Goff like you know in 2022 he was a plus 10 points a game more at home than on the road last year it was you know four points the

21:48Andy Holloway:year before 3.4 yeah I agree that the chaos does you know we have stats that they regress to the mean and things like that but I'm just saying I'm speaking more of like one-offs of like when I'm doing my analysis of I would much rather my offense be at home like I want that home cooking with the refs I want I want the crowd to be quiet when my when my players are at home up you know auxiliary guys, they're much better at home. This is just part of competitive sports.

22:19Mike Wright:Is that something you actionably – you just start set decisions a lot based off of that? I would say a – Is that a flex spot thing or a streaming quarterback thing? Yeah. I lean into it. I mean, I really – I do pay close attention to when teams are in controlled weather environments. Yes. Which, as a person who still enjoys watching games that have chaos – Not with your fantasy players. I still predictability changes when I don't have to worry about swirling winds or rain or sleet or snow, even if it's fun to watch. I do play. I pay close attention to that. That will be a difference maker for me frequently is if I think my guy is going to be in a controlled environment where it's very, you know.

23:01Mike Wright:Yeah, I mean, we look at this home road. We look at dome games. We look at obviously defensive matchups a lot. Those are all things that go into the start set tool every single week. you look at everything but I would say that the home road I agree Mike obviously I prefer my guy

23:17Jason Moore:at home than on the road um unless you're Tyreek Hill who always dominates on the road um so weird you know but at the same time when I'm looking at picking up a matchup or making a start of the week or whatever or if I'm building the DFS lineup I I think the defensive matchup I would put above it the the Vegas over under I would put above it you know those type of things so I just think it's It's not that huge.

23:40Mike Wright:Zero running back draft strategy. Underrated or overrated, if you don't know what that is. Managers kind of drafting and avoiding running backs in the early rounds. Bet on a bunch of guys later that have the opportunity to step up into roles that matter.

24:00Andy Holloway:It's leaning into the predictive nature of the chaos. The running back position is the position that they get hurt. and to project a full 17 games for any running back is just you shouldn't do it. You should never project 17.

24:17Jason Moore:Well, and if you did that this last year, it worked really well. Yes. It really did. But it is chaotic. So this one is equally hard to my heart. Is this one tough for you? It's not tough, but I hate my answer.

24:34Mike Wright:All right. Underrated, overrated, zero RB strategy, 3-2-1.

24:39Andy Holloway:Underrated, baby. I agree. I'm the only one that answered overrated. Both of you guys said underrated. The year really matters. You've got to be paying attention to the – zero running back, shout out again to Sean Siegel, anti-fragility, this type of stuff. It's the market and knowing who's – where you're investing so much in your first-round running back, it's the position that gets hurt the most. It's risk-reward, right? Because everything of Christian McCaffrey last year, the entire discourse is just, does Christian McCaffrey get hurt? Because if he doesn't get hurt, then he is the greatest pick in fantasy football.

25:21Andy Holloway:If he does get hurt, we all go, oh, we should have seen it come in and then everyone, I told you he was going to get hurt. And because it's your first rounder, it's just devastating to your team. And meanwhile, while those running backs are getting hurt, there's running backs on the waiver wire or backup running backs that you're stashing that just gain value and this year in particular because everyone stayed healthy last year

25:42Mike Wright:which by the way everyone stayed healthy to the tune of the first 13 running backs

25:48Jason Moore:all but one played 15 or more games yeah and and honestly that's ridiculous they're almost all just sitting the last week the guys that played 16 games this year almost everybody was just like sat the last week of the season it wasn't injury and it was week 18 when we weren't playing

26:03Mike Wright:fantasy and look we have we've certainly seen years where it's been a terrible decision we had the zamir white zach moss drum ford rico dowdle year this is dallas rico dowdle not last year when he was relevant for a while hey dallas second half rico was great second second half of the second half maybe yeah um but listen here here's my one of my problems with it we all acknowledge a we acknowledge the running back is is fundamentally crucial to fantasy be very difficult to find running backs beyond the draft on the waiver wire. You fight for a couple of them. It doesn't happen very often where they're difference-making backs that weren't drafted.

26:40Mike Wright:C, the running backs you draft in late rounds, guess what? They're also running backs. They don't have an immunity to injury either. So not only do you have to hit on them being healthy instead of your front-end guys being healthy, but you also have to hit on them being successful when they're not drafted in a place where they can be, and you end up with Zemir White and Zach Moss and Jerome Ford and Rico Dowdle. So it's it to me, it feels like more of a a little bit more lottery of a strategy where like you really if you hit if you if you execute it and you hit the big Darren Sproles late or the big name later in the draft, the Bucky Irving of his rookie season, you got one of those you pick up one, maybe hero RB is the strategy that's a little looser where you you take one and you wait forever.

27:26Mike Wright:I might be more amicable to that because shoot your shot on three or four guys but to me if you if you go zero you wait the whole way I feel like you have to hit you have to scratch off three tickets in a row and hit the right thing it is it is more of a

27:40Jason Moore:lottery high upside outcome which is you know when you're shooting for a championship in your in your fantasy league and this is why it's pretty often that if you've got a larger tournament play a zero RB strategy ends up winning because the highest upside is oh my gosh I had all of these studs at all these positions I could draft my onesies and then I didn't lose the running backs and my the running backs I hit late work better so the highest upside I think is zero RB but I the reason I hate playing that makes my point though playing zero RB I don't enjoy it as much because you really have to the first part of the season is just brutal while you're trying to scratch and claw and wait for these injuries and get the right guy or have have your guy pop off and this season I just think the entire world is set up for it to work right we're coming we're coming off of that's what I'm talking about healthy yeah from year to year I think it changes and when I look at guys late it's like well are there guys worth drafting like you know Kenny Gainwell Rashad White you got some guys that I think are are super super late that are um Jonathan Brooks Jonathan Brooks absolutely those are the names I mean even Bill um you you take your shot on whichever one out of that backfield you want.

28:58Jason Moore:Jadarian Price will probably go up later towards draft, but right now he's a super low draft pick.

29:05Mike Wright:Yeah, I mean, last year was a season where CMC, Derek Henry, and McCaffrey – or sorry, and Bijan – Yeah. were the top three most rostered players on championship teams. And so, yeah, I agree. You do see the pendulum swing a little bit, but that pendulum is not – you know, that may make people draft more running backs in the first couple rounds because they feel more confident about it. but it doesn't make late-round running backs more likely to hit or less likely to hit. That gamble is still present from year to year.

29:32Andy Holloway:Yeah, it doesn't change that. I would say, of course, your goal is to hit on Bucky or Kyron, but the point of it is you can stack your team with – so you can find usable running back weeks on a waiver wire. Maybe it's not a long-term solution. It's hard. It is, but you're more likely to find those to piece together than you're going to find elite wide receivers. There's maybe one a year where you're like, oh, this guy comes out of nowhere where we really didn't see the path and we should have, and we pick him like the Puka. You have one Puka, and then next year, who's the new Puka? It's not because that doesn't happen.

30:19Andy Holloway:But we find running backs to fill in the gaps, and then we're overloaded with wide receivers, an elite tight end, an elite quarterback.

30:27Mike Wright:Are you talking about the weeks where as a Patriot you could start like Terrell Jennings out of nowhere for a single week?

30:33Andy Holloway:Yes, they always show up. You have to be very diligent in how you are structuring your – and when you say zero running backs, it's just you're starting with zero running backs. You're going probably like five or six rounds before you are starting to look at the running back position because like man like Dobbins we've already listed a handful I think there's plenty of guys here this year that I would be I would love to have an elite wide receiver tight end team and then pick up these scraps of running back and know your league

31:06Jason Moore:because this is just one strategy any strategy can work I've seen people I mean you you can win if you just log out and auto draft and then um you know do your best it's not setting the best foundation you can but you can win a number of ways know your league and if i if i was in a league that i knew everyone is like super hungry needy at running back like this league takes all running backs the first couple rounds like way higher than normal adp that is the perfect league to go zrrb because the valuable high-end receivers tight ends quarterbacks get pushed down so round after round after round you're getting superstar superstar superstar exactly and you're you're sacrificing running back you're going to be like oh this is feeling uncomfortable but you're using your tears

31:50Mike Wright:that's the strategy like crying tears no no no the drafting tears that's the crying available in the ultimate draft kit for zach moss is the crying tears uh yeah the zach moss was but then the chas brown worked out he did i went overrated you guys both went underrated on that one bo nicks is the next one oh bo nicks uh this one was not hard for me um bo nicks underrated overrated three two one okay so jason and i both went underrated michael overrated we're very confident

32:20Andy Holloway:with the i was this should have been when i was uh overrated yeah when when i was looking at the

32:26Jason Moore:show doc in preparation of this i thought i would say overrated um because he's he's not been very consistent even though his quarterback finishes have been great but then i just i looked at where he's being drafted. He's the quarterback 15 right now. He's one of my favorite picks. Double-digit rounds. He's been a top 10 quarterback. And then you add Jalen Waddell and I really genuinely think that is a massive need for Bo Nix.

32:54Andy Holloway:Pat Bryant. Oh, I love me some Pat Bryant.

32:56Mike Wright:I mean, they just extended Sean Bain. Don't bury the lead.

33:00Andy Holloway:He's still there, guys. He's buried himself. I'm going to bury that lead. They've said Bryant's the wide receiver three.

33:06Mike Wright:Yeah, I just don't think we've seen the best fantasy season from Bo Nix yet, and I think we're going to get one of those. Last year, it was Drake May and Bo Nix that were both late-round darlings with opportunity. Worked out for one of them. Bo Nix wasn't the one that it worked out for. He's tied with Russell Wilson for the most wins by a quarterback through the first two seasons of his career. He's got the fourth most fantasy points scored by a quarterback through the first two seasons of his career, which is crazy. Because Jason's right. He hasn't been consistent. he's had he's had games that are emotionally destroyers of your soul you draft them to be something then he gets a whole matchup against the las vegas raiders the worst team in football on a thursday night and they score nine points and win the game and you're like it's almost it almost reflects so much worse on bonex when you win that way then losing it's like it wasn't it's like you can win that way so maybe we'll try i have a schedule question for you andy yeah

34:03Andy Holloway:So here, this is what the Denver Broncos start the year with. On the road against Kansas City. At home against Jacksonville. At home against the Rams. On the road against the 49ers. And then on the road against the Chargers.

34:17Mike Wright:Good. You feel good because now somebody's going to score on their defense.

34:21Jason Moore:Exactly. I don't see that as a bad thing. Those are tough matchups for sure. They're good teams. But I think you need good offenses against the Broncos defense to keep them thrown.

34:30Andy Holloway:Those are some defenses to start your year. That's a hard part of drafting Bo Nix. Your first round matchup is on the road in Arrowhead.

34:40Jason Moore:Let's say, let's just play it out. Bo Nix takes a leap forward this year. He gets Jalen Waddell. It makes a difference. He looks like, oh, this is one of the upper echelon guys. He does what Drake May did in year two. He does it in year three or whatever. If he were to do that this year, and that's what you're – If you're drafting Bo Nix, that's the only reason you're drafting him is you're hoping, hey, he takes that leap with Waddle. So if that happens, these are the type of games where they're going to be high-scoring games in these tough, good-team matchups. So you're going to find out quick.

35:14Mike Wright:To Mike's credit, his best games last year, number one overall, maybe I'm stealing it from your arsenal here, number one overall finish against the Giants, number three overall finish against the Bengals, number seven overall finish against the Cowboys.

35:30Andy Holloway:Who could have seen these coming?

35:32Jason Moore:Number two overall finish against the Packers. Yep.

35:36Andy Holloway:What week was that?

35:37Mike Wright:15.

35:37Andy Holloway:It was post-Michael Parsons.

35:39Mike Wright:Yeah, that was when they were toast, man. He also had weeks of 27 and 25 overall against Tennessee and Las Vegas. So that's been the problem. He makes weird throws sometimes, weird decisions, and doesn't perform when you expect him. By the way, I say all that, last year's quarterback six in fantasy, Bo Nix.

35:59Andy Holloway:Yeah, but the points per game, he's at 17.9 points per game. That was under what he did as a rookie and yet a higher overall finish at quarterback.

36:10Jason Moore:The quarterback Zay Flowers? I mean, when I look at the ADP on Sleeper right now, you got Bo Nix, and then going after him is Jordan Love, Jared Goff, Malik Willis, Baker Mayfield, Tyler Shuck. I don't want any of those guys.

36:20Andy Holloway:I don't want Bo Nix.

36:21Jason Moore:Yeah. Yeah. You said you wouldn't, right? I would. Oh, really?

36:25Mike Wright:Those are all guys I would not take over Bo Nix. Those are all 100 % guys I would not take over Bo Nix. Because Bo Nix's upside is so much better than all those guys.

36:30Andy Holloway:I would take the shot. Week one. Who did it?

36:34Mike Wright:You're going to put Jordan Love as your starting quarterback over Bo Nix?

36:39Andy Holloway:It's possible. But I was more – I was like Goff, Malik Willis.

36:43Mike Wright:You stood by your thumbs down, man.

36:45Andy Holloway:Yeah.

36:46Mike Wright:Wasn't there a time when Bo Nix was like – I thought you were into this.

36:50Andy Holloway:Yes, last year Bo Nix was very interesting, and then he does all those things you were talking about, and yet among 38 qualifying quarterbacks with 200 or more dropbacks, he was 30th in off-target rate. That's horrifically bad. When he's pressured, he was tied with Shadour Sanders and J.J. McCarthy in yards for pass attempt.

37:15Andy Holloway:He is the best quarterback on the Broncos. I think they probably go to the Super Bowl if he wasn't unfortunately hurt. But for fantasy purposes.

37:25Mike Wright:He was to see inconsistency 41 % of the time above 20 points.

37:29Andy Holloway:Kyle just shared 33 % of his points came in those three games you talked about.

37:33Mike Wright:Jordan Love was at 29 % though, so I'm still going to take both names. Sam Laporta. Sam Laporta. Oh, man. I'm glad we're doing this one. This is not nice. I'm glad we're doing this one. It's easy for me. It's so easy. Well, I know your answer. I don't have an answer. Take a second, Mike. It's all right. Take your time. That's L-A-P-O-R-T-A, Laporta. Okay. Now you're ready? Yeah, I'm ready. Sam Laporta, 3-2-1. Underrated. Ba-bang!

38:03Jason Moore:I'm so happy that this is the only one.

38:06Mike Wright:Me and Mike both went underrated. Jason went overrated.

38:09Jason Moore:Only one I'm alone on is the one that I'm clearly very right on. Okay. Clearly. Clearly. Clearly. There's no point. to Laporta. There's no point to Laporta? There's no point to Laporta. There's no point to Sam Laporta. Last year, That is so insulting. Before he got injured, and he was... Yes, thank you. Keep going. Tell me the great numbers. No, then he got hurt. No, no, I know. I know he got hurt, but I'm saying on a per-game basis. On a per-game basis, he was a B in consistency. That's not bad.

38:42Mike Wright:75 for 923 and 6.

38:44Jason Moore:Boom! Everything sounds good. He scored like 9.6 fantasy points per game and half PPR. 9.7. Oh, I apologize. I did say like, so I was right. I stand by it. Travis Kelsey was 9.1. Travis Kelsey. Right. Who was like the tight end three, right? I mean, I'm saying, did he matter? Did Travis Kelsey matter for fantasy last year? I think oftentimes he did, yeah. Well, I'm not saying on a week, like, if he had a good week, he mattered. I'm saying as a whole.

39:10Andy Holloway:Four out of nine times, Sam Laporta gave you 11 points or more at the tight end position. Four of nine is not bad.

39:17Mike Wright:Sam Laporta's talent and ability. Look, he was the tight end one with 11.5 points per game, the tight end seven with nine points per game. He was better than that last year at 9.7. I think, look, underrated or overrated can be interpreted in lots of different ways. I think it's totally fine for you to stay overrated for, like, your view of the tight end position in fantasy is never going to afford the selection of Sam Laporta. Never. But I do think that there are other situations where there's two conversations there's who am i willing to draft at tight end and maybe that

39:51Andy Holloway:list is four guys really high and no one else i think my my tight end tiers are now it's the elite guy well the super elite which would be mcbride and bowers then i'm going to put the elite i'm going to put the elite young guys of of warren and mr loveland i got the injured guys next i'm going with craft and kittle but then right after that is going to be laporta for me uh i don't

40:13Mike Wright:know fan and worked into there and yes you know fan and but yes he is but to finish the point there's the titans you draft but the titans you'd be happy to start after the draft and i'm just saying like laporta is a guy that i would feel good enough putting into my lineup every single week yeah trey mcbride had the best season of his career under petzing last year who's now taking over in detroit i think underrated because of the injury and the fact we basically lost the season where he was actually performing better than his sophomore year yeah and my point

40:42Jason Moore:is he performed very well. He was very fine. And the difference between him and most of the other guys or just streaming the position is really not impactful. It's not going to win you a championship, that level of difference. Maybe it'll be easier. But who are you giving up to draft Sam Laporta? Justin Herbert, Brian Thomas Jr., J.K. Dobbins. I'm just saying you get chances at someone that makes a difference. You were giving up the chance to draft Dobbins, no matter who you draft in the entire draft. I'm just saying that when I went through the things to remember and looked at how the difference between the tight end 2 and the tight end 12 last year, it just didn't make an impact in fantasy football.

41:26Jason Moore:If you didn't have the elites, it really didn't matter. And so I want to take more shots on guys that could break out. I'll tell you, drafting Brian Thomas Jr.

41:34Andy Holloway:did impact your team last year. He did. Well, that cost you an arm. Like a deep impact, like an asteroid.

41:39Jason Moore:That's not a mid-round pick last year.

41:41Mike Wright:Last year, I was just looking. He was a higher points per game than Warren, higher than Fannin, higher than Loveland. I will say this. New idea here for just a brief moment. New idea for the tight end position. What if the impact of not having to stress out of your brain every week on who you're going to play at that position, your level of – you talk about the fact you know you're in too many leagues when you get to waiver wire day and you're like, I don't want to do it. I think there is a value to be said. There's a net effect of not – like I know this from trying to stream the quarterback position.

42:21Mike Wright:You can do it. You can do it with tight end. But it's not the funnest thing, and you miss a lot. So maybe there's a little bit of value in being able to start a guy every week that plays 100 % of snaps. Maybe he's not giving you league-winning points, but 9.7 is going to put you right – You got a guy for the spot, and then you can focus on all the other decisions you have for your team. Just throwing it out there.

42:44Jason Moore:I'm just saying you can get – I mean, Fannin was off of waiver wire, basically scored the same. You know, Dallas Goddard scored way more on a per-game basis. Are you super in on him? Underrated? I mean, probably. Okay. Have at him.

42:58Mike Wright:What are you doing with tight end, I guess is my question.

43:01Andy Holloway:He's taking just straight zeros. I was going to say straight zeros in the position. As soon as Warren gets drafted, he's like, well, I'm going zero.

43:08Mike Wright:Let's say you don't get your top four dudes, the only ones that matter in fantasy. Who are you playing at the position? And don't say, I'll find next year's fan and sign him, and I'll be set.

43:17Jason Moore:No, I will go super, super late. Whoever is, I mean, Dallas Goddard is super late double-digit rounds. Dalton Schultz, the difference between Dalton Schultz, who can't run, is slow as molasses, and Sam Laporta is probably not that big an impact on my actual fantasy team.

43:37Andy Holloway:You just play Schultz every week?

43:38Jason Moore:I'll get Travis Kelsey.

43:40Andy Holloway:Travis Kelsey is a legit talker. Travis Kelsey is so late in the draft.

43:46Jason Moore:He's undrafted. He's tight end 19. Is your league drafting 19 tight ends? Just grab Travis Kelsey.

43:52Mike Wright:This is why I'm not drafting Sam Laporta. It's where it's left out to interpretation. Because when I talk about Larry McConkie and Sam Laporta, I'm also talking about the players' potential and their upside. I'm not just talking about their draft costs. Is Sam Laporta underrated for fantasy? I think there's a possibility. I think so. He finished number one.

44:11Jason Moore:Is Kyle Pitts underrated for fantasy? No. He finished number two? No.

44:15Andy Holloway:That's not number one, Jason. I'm just saying. I don't know.

44:19Jason Moore:It's the same logic of argument, but I'm just wanting to keep us intellectually honest.

44:24Mike Wright:You have to pay a lot more for Pitts. And I don't believe the same thing about Kyle Pitts five years into his year as they do Laporta or the offense. So, yeah, there's nuance to it. We'll take a break. We'll come back with some more awesome debates.

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47:16Mike Wright:So we have yet to unanimously agree on anything. That is true. Somehow we always end up two to one. I don't know how that math works out. Well, if we don't agree, it will. That was the joke. All right. I'm aware. Thank you for explaining. That joke was. Thank you. I agree. I agree. All right. next one slow drafts versus fast drafts i guess slow drafts for those that don't know um you basically not everybody's present it's not a live like a draft over email yeah it just takes uh you know you got a certain allotment of time to make your pick maybe you know a lot of eight hours or so sometimes it'll it'll people open it up to like a day and then just people jump in when they can.

48:05Mike Wright:Underrated, overrated? I mean, is it possible to have such of a little opinion on this topic? Yeah. Does it feel like I want to put a giant thumbs up or thumbs down? I mean, I don't know.

48:19Andy Holloway:No, man, you've got to be passionate. Sure, 3-2-1. Hey, underrated. Okay, we all have underrated. But the reason I have.

48:25Mike Wright:Not at the expense of live drafts. No. Goodness, no. But just because it's a way to handle things. if you need to.

48:32Jason Moore:The reason I have underrated is because I don't think anyone out there is banging the table for slow drafts, nor should they. It's like, how could it be overrated? Who's out there being like, oh my gosh, they're the best!

48:47Mike Wright:Here's the thing. They're underrated because it's a lot better if the busy dude that can't get off of work makes all of his picks than it is for him to auto pick and ruin your league or be inactive

48:59Jason Moore:or whatever so if you have to roll that way a live that's fine draft is one billion percent better billion but i mean live like in person if you can be in person always do that just that is so important i mean i think most people out there they're mainly they're mainly i think they try to get together i know we do in our league of record and it it is it makes it all matter so much more It is a billion times better. If you're just doing an online chat room thing and, you know. Sometimes it's all you can do. Sometimes it's all you can do if you want to do a slow draft, do a slow draft. So we all agreed.

49:39Jason Moore:Yeah. Amazing. With zero passion. Brees Hall. More passion. Brees Hall.

49:46Mike Wright:This one is brutal for me. Brees Hall. Underrated or overrated. Freshly paid. Freshly minted. gets to wear the green again underrated overrated Brees Hall alright 3-2-1 hey we all went underrated 3 underrated votes

50:11Andy Holloway:look at us I also hold this up for his head coach wait you think he's underrated no no no no no for his comments about a three-headed monster? I don't care about that. You just gave Brees Hall the bag. That's the most perfect thing to say.

50:32Jason Moore:What are you doing? He said it last year, though. And he was doing it. He was. Braylon Allen got hurt. Yes, he was. They were on the way to doing it. I think that the addition of Geno Smith to this offense and what it means for Brees Hall and Garrett Wilson, the primary first read targets or checkdowns is just so important I mean Brees Hall has always

50:55Mike Wright:scored his fantasy points through the air I don't I don't believe an ounce of the three-headed monster comment I'm with you on that I also believe teams it's it's amazing how we get to talk about the Jets because I feel like a lot of the arguments this offseason for the Jets have been on the basis of the addition of Geno Smith whereas the arguments for all the teams that have had Geno Smith lately have been on the basis of the absence and removal of Geno Smith from the team but that's the Jets right now at quarterback I don't buy anything that their head coach is saying about that that is a way to make the other two guys feel good I think it is impossible to be overrated in New York I think that's just part of the equation the baggage that Brees Hall carries week to week is going to be viewed and seen in his draft spot that I just think is not going to rise I was just looking at this.

51:45Mike Wright:I got him the highest of the three of us by a lot. I got him at 13. You guys are at 19 and 22.

51:51Jason Moore:He's being drafted right now at the 3-4 turn, just behind Bucky Irving, who I would much rather have Brees Hall than Bucky Irving just for the fears of what might fall apart for Bucky's career. The fact that he got paid a ton of money and now gets to be a pass catcher. Obviously, last year, there was a big disappointment with Gentry. Gentey was a bust because he was a first-round draft pick. He was a top-12 running back on a terrible team, and it came because of the dump-offs. It was his receiving work that happened to make it good. So if you're telling me I'm getting a guy who's being drafted as a mid-level RB2 who has burst and juice and—

52:29Mike Wright:Fourth and explosive run rate, ninth and first downs, which is insane to me, ahead of Gibbs and Achan. I think he's under—we all voted under him. Yeah. Maybe for different reasons.

52:39Jason Moore:And I was happy to be able to do this because I always love Brees Hall, and I have just hated him the last two years. His situation has looked bad. His draft cost has been too expensive. But I think we're finally to where it's like he's going to be able to catch the ball, and he doesn't cost what he did a couple of years ago. Did you guys see the Braylon Allen weight report?

52:59Andy Holloway:I heard he's bigger, stronger, faster than ever. All I heard was – Is he 250? He said he was 250. So he's – Brandon Jacobs? The Hulk. Is that what that is? He was already gigantic. He was an absolute monster of a man. And now you're going to play at 250? Brandon Jacobs played at 264.

53:19Mike Wright:That's who it reminds me of. But he was 6 '4". What's Braylon Island's height? Braylon Island? What's Braylon Island?

53:26Andy Holloway:Braylon Island is... He's 6 '1". Dude, regardless, I am very pumped. Please go in at 250, Braylon. I want to see what happens. Like, he's 22? Oh, my gosh. So he has a baby. Yeah. But he's a man baby. Weighing 250.

53:50Mike Wright:Mike is really enraptured by Braylon Allen's weight. It's a lot. It's humongous. It's all muscle. Put pads on him? Last one, league median. So for those that don't know.

54:05Jason Moore:I know we'll be unanimous here.

54:07Mike Wright:league median is the opportunity in your league settings to play not just against your one-on-one matchup opponent but against the average score the league median itself yeah within the league so you get two uh two wins or two losses every week it's something that mike had played in a one of his leagues for a long time we had not adopted it um mostly because there'll be arguments we bring we can bring up now um but underrated overrated the opportunity to have a little bit of control on your week i think and uh three two one yeah yeah media we're all we're all underrated we all

54:43Jason Moore:love median scoring it is freaking fantastic the only downside to to to the scoring is that your records look a little weird like that's it it's like oh you're 23 and three you know i think i

54:56Mike Wright:think that people would argue those like myself who are the more resistant that it also takes a little bit of the like we've always said fantasy is a game where the the gravity of the win or the loss even if it happens in a way that you don't like it which by the way league median exists mostly because when you score the second most points in the league that that week man and you lose against the one team that scored more and then that feels bad then the schlub who scored

55:24Andy Holloway:the second fewest points gets a win over the and you're like this is there is no justice in the

55:31Mike Wright:world brings a little bit of balance and control and like your own destiny within your hands because if you go out and do all the right things you're not just at the happenstance of your opponent that was drawn that week we're not actually playing here's a secret we're not actually playing defense against the other players right you don't actually play them It's all fake. It's a fantasy. It's a random matchup. It's a fantasy. To me, it rewards or balances the league much better, and it gives you something to root on.

56:01Jason Moore:See, that's the big deal to me.

56:03Mike Wright:Thursday night, I'm playing Mike. His top three players scored 10 zillion points. I might put my feet up or just go to bed and watch reruns on Netflix the rest of the week. Now I can give a crap about Sunday because I can still battle against the league media.

56:17Jason Moore:We've said this before, but the reason league media came about is not the reason that I now love league median. It's not to balance the league or have it be a little bit more fair or hurt less when you have a – It does do those things. But the thing that it unexpectedly did once instituted is it gave you so much more to watch, to root for. More fun. That's what I thought you were going to say. It's more fun. That's it. It's more fun. I now care about other people's matchups in my league way more because I'm like, oh, I'm playing against multiple – It's just more fun.

56:50Mike Wright:We go into Monday night and we're like, oh, man, if this player for this team lays an egg, the league median is not moving. We're all paying attention to how each other can get an extra win. You can move in the standings more on a week-to-week basis, right? Like if things go your way and bounce your way. I'm going to ask Al, though, because Al's back there in Deuce Rezally. Are you on the underrated side? For sure. You are. 100%. You have liked it being added to both of our leagues. I love it. Okay. And I'll say the – Any negatives that you've – because, I mean, I think a lot of people don't know about it or don't do it.

57:28Mike Wright:Any negatives? Literally none. None. Yeah. And by the way, that's a one-button click on Sleeper. On Sleeper. So this is not just an isolated strategy.

57:37Jason Moore:This is a great time of year. The way that we instituted it in our league was a one-year trial. We were like – we didn't want to just say, hey, we're doing this. And sometimes you've got the curmudgeons in your league that are like, no that's not how we do it well yeah that's what it changes um is is changing what the way you used to do it but sometimes you can get those things across the finish line across the goal line if you go with the process of a one-year trial to where it's like hey oh yeah we've got

58:04Mike Wright:a we've got that that is what we did and we knew we didn't put it into effect permanently we said we'll try it for a year and then we'll come back and vote again and see if anybody doesn't like it And two weeks in, the entire league was like, this is awesome. Didn't we have maybe one team that voted that they didn't like it or didn't want to keep it? No.

58:21Jason Moore:I don't remember that. Did we even vote again? We did. I thought we – Was it really Josh?

58:27Mike Wright:Was it Papa Josh?

58:28Jason Moore:I think it might have been, yeah. If one. That sounds about right.

58:31Mike Wright:He is the Andy Griffith of our –

58:34Andy Holloway:In the olden days. Another, I'll say, bonus side effect of starting to pay attention more because you start to pay attention to your league mates more and their rosters. And it's not like, hey, who has this player? You start looking at everyone's roster every single week, and it just gets you more in tune with players and what players are on what teams, which makes trades going to be easier. You don't have to go do a deep research dive because you're going to have this knowledge basis of you just kind of know the big boys are on what teams. It really just makes the league better. I thought I won negative.

59:14Mike Wright:Oh. I think it's a little harder for somebody to luck into a perfect season. I think that's going to be harder. I think a perfect season is going to be harder.

59:23Jason Moore:I feel like lucking into a perfect season, you've got to earn it. It's even harder now. And if you like to do amazing things, like you want to actually go truly do something that is special, then you go to ballerslive.com. Right now, that's what you do. BallersLive.com. BallersLive.com. And then you get your butt to Phoenix on August 28th, and you participate in this podcast.

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1:00:27Jason Moore:getting ready to do a show yeah andrew luck retired it changed things it's so fun because It's like when you watch a movie and there's some breaking worldwide news and they show everyone stopping what they're doing, staring at their phone. Well, because this was an audience of our people, of the Foot Clan, who are avid fantasy players, it was that. It was like the entire audience was staring at their phone, whispering, spreading, just spreading across the crowd, the news.

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1:01:15Andy Holloway:I will make every effort.

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